New DOGE, New Tricks
Jun 13, 2025•24 min
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Episode description
Elon Musk has ridden off into the sunset acrimoniously (maybe), but the Department of Government Efficiency is just getting started. Will DOGE continue wildly cutting or is something even more chaotic coming next?
Guest: Makena Kelly, senior writer at WIRED.
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Podcast production by Evan Campbell and Patrick Fort.
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