All right. It was September of twenty seventeen. Mark and I had went to Lee Creek for an outing. We'd got there and we'd met Debbie and the girls and several other people. They'd talked about all the activity they'd had
previously in this area, and we had cooked steaks and stuff. Ate went down to the creek and hung out there, and somebody started throwing rocks in the creek, and we were getting rocks thrown back off the little bluff that was across the creek that didn't have any access by any roads or anything. That went on for probably an hour or so. It kind of dissipated after
a while, and we all walked back to camp. It probably was about twelve thirty at that point, and Mark and I had camped away from everybody else in the main camp. We'd cross the creek and went back in the woods, probably one hundred and fifty two hundred yards from the creek on the other side, away from everybody. We had a four wheler and we left the main camp because it was probably distance wise it was probably a half mile
from everybody. We crossed the creek, got back to our camp, cut off the ATV and as soon as we cut off the ATV, we had a loud howl. It's one of the closest ones I've heard, except possibly one more. But me and Mark looked at each other, shrugged their shoulders and rolled over, and he went to his hammock. I got in my hammock. We went to sleep. About two thirty I started smelling something that was rank. I was asleep, and it woke me up. I was
sniffing, trying to figure out what it was. I thought, I've been camping for three days. Is it may Is it my brain? But yeah, but it wasn't. I could hear something walk as I woke up. I could hear something walking away from the head end of my hammock, and I tried to turn. I had a thermal, I had a pistol, and I had a light all across my lap in the hammt and I tried to turn with the thermal to get it on thermal, and I couldn't turn
enough at the angle it was to get it on thermal. So I laid there and held the thermal up over my head, pointing it behind me, and just scanned it over my head trying to pick something up. It probably walked fifty yards from us and stopped whenever I started moving, and you could tell it was bipedal and all that. But I just took the thermal back down and laid there still, and after a few minutes I heard it walk off toward the creek and away from us. The next day I told Mark
about it, and we reviewed well. Mark or Shelley reviewed the audio later. And you could hear for thirty minutes prior to me waking up, the thing would throw rocks. You could hear it ping off the ATV. You could hear it hit close to me, and you could hear the feet shuffle a little bit, and it would stop, and you wouldn't hear nothing for a little while, and it would throw more stuff in to see what it
was gonna take to wake me up. And I don't know how close the thing was whenever I finally smelt it, but it had to be within twenty yards of me whenever I finally woke up, because when it took off walking, it was close. And believe it or not, Mark didn't wake up through it. He was over there about twenty or thirty yards from me. He didn't know about it till the next morning, I didn't jump up and run over there and wake him up. I just went back to sleep.
In about four in the morning, something else coming to camp. But I got it on thermal and it was just a raccoon or an armadilla, but it sounded totally different. But you were worried, weren't you? No where you were thinking? I was thinking, but I wasn't worried. It affected me worse later after I thought about it, how close I was to whatever it was than it did that night. And then I started putting my hammock
up in the middle of everybody, stood on the outside of everybody. You know what'll happen if there's one thing that I don't mention or added, It'll be like, oh, he's going. I was with a friend of mine and we were coon hunting, and I was new to it. He'd been taking me coon hunting some We were down in Jackson, CA In Indiana, and we were kind of we were down in the river bottoms. We were very close to the river actually, but we're kind of in between two towns.
We were between a town called Viologna and a town called Madoor, Indiana. So we run the dogs and they were way out ahead of us, and we were still up by the gravel road. We went took off down toward the dogs. They were carrying on pretty good. We got down there they were carried on, and we come up to this ravine and these This
ravine is not where the river flows. It only flows like through there when the river gets out, and it kind of cuts new channels and stuff, you know, over the years, and then when the river flows out of them, they grow up and they grow up with a lot of junk in them and vines and bushes. I'm not eating, but either way, this ravine we come up on, its pretty deep, estimating ten twelve feet deep. It was pretty deep or wash out or whatever you want to call it.
The dogs is carrying on pretty good, and it was going on for a while and they were down in all this stick stuff. Every once in a while come by and we have these big coon lights. And it's the old style coonlights where you had like the metal hat and had the headlight on it kind of like a coal miner's type hat, and it had those big old battery packs on your side. It always pulled your pants down and killed
your hip, you know. Oh yeah, old school. So we were getting kind of bored with it. And there's a tree growing up, like right there beside the drop off, and it's real muddy, and I'm just leaning up against that tree and my buddy Tim is to my left. He's a little ways away from me, but not that far. And we got our lights and were shining in this ravine. You know, it's growed up real thick. Literally can't even see the dogs. You hear the dogs down
in there. We kind of just hanging out and one of the dogs got to sounding a little bit different. Keep in mind, I'm new at this, I don't they had to have different tones, different sounds, and they tree a coon and I'm not that familiar with it, but it sounded different. Caught me a little bit off go and I thought, well, maybe something's going on. And we're both shining the ravine still we have the handheld lights. All of a sudden, I see this dog come through the air.
And when I say come through the air, keep in mind this ravine I'm estimating ten twelve feet deep and it's really wide. You can't jump across the ravine. Carl Lewis can't jump across that ravine. Couldn't do it. A dog cannot jump across that ravine. It's too white. This dog comes through the air, not at an upward angle or coming down or anything, comes across straight, and it's like it happened in slow motion. And this
dog has kind of got this. It's not in balance like a dog jumps out of the ditch, but it hits and it tumbles a little bit, only because it didn't really fall. It just came straight across. I was just frozen in time, and my eyes was huge, I'm sure. And I look at Tim because he's the experienced guy, when not really he was only sixteen too, But and we're looking at each other and putting lights in each other's face, and his eyes are real big around he's puzzled by what
he sees. The first thing I said was, what was that? Why did that? What? You know, it's even hard for me to explain. It's like the dog. You know, your first reaction to somebody threw the dog. Well, yeah, somebody did throw the dog, but this dog is like forty pounds, fifty pounds. Yeah, again, I'm guessing you can't throw the dog that straight. You can't do it. The dog came across there like that. I kept saying, what was that? What
you know? And he instantly just kind of accepted it like it wasn't nothing. He just said, well, it just jumped up out of there. That dog didn't jump up out of there. That dog what it landed on its feet had it jumped out of there. So that was the end of that. All way, we headed back the truth. The dog just kept going back on his feet and it kept going the whole time of walk in the field. I just keep It's like I'm almost walking backwards because I'm wondering
what that is. Is that gonna come and throw me? I keep asking him, and I'm like, dude, you see what I seen? What was that? Well? I don't you know. He just rejected it mentally right away, but I didn't forget it. So look, it was a dog yelling or anything. The only thing it did was there a yap and
wonder down in there doing their thing. And the one dog started to sounding different, kind of like it was like it was stressed really bad or something like something was going on, you know, something was different, and it seemed it was just the one dog, but there was two dogs down there. It didn't take him long though. We was we was headed out. We were not far behind behind the dog. It was headed to the truck the best I could tell. But when we got to the truck, the
dog was at the truck. The other one it came to came right up. He was yelling, and it come right up, right up, back up behind us. We actually beat it to the try. I'll ask you this before, but you didn't put this together. But you didn't even now connect this with anything Bigfoot related, nah a long time now, just just
puzzled by what could have done that? That was it there? You know, sort of Bigfoot reading a few books when I was a kid, and that's awesome stuff like that, because most times these stories you hear they kill the dog, yeah, or the dog is so scared, you know, and these coon dogs are mean, they attacked, they want to kill those coons. But this dog didn't run or anything. Looked like maybe it just
got snatched up and thrown. It beats me, Ivish. That next morning, something came into camp, but this had a totally different feel and we could actually see the shadows on the tent. It was huge and we could make out the shoulders and head, and another one came up to the left side of it, and it was coming up from the front of our tent with a fire was out there, and I pushed on Sandy's colot with my
foot and she looked over and I went. She looked up and she could see the shadows, and she pushed on Barber's tent did the same thing. So they all saw that. You could hear the footfall. And I had my recorder going out in the back left corner of my tent, and Barbara had hers out in the front. So anyway they walk around, you could hear a moving They weren't running around throwing crap at us like the look we think juveniles, you know. But anyway, it was just a totally different
feel. And I've never been scared or felt any kind of fear until then, you know. And so anyway about sit, well, it was six twenty nine, because I keep my phone under my pilla so I can see
what time it is six twenty nine. From the back left corner where my audio recorder kiss, it was this high pitched female sound scream and it was real shrill, and then it ended in like a whoop, and then ten seconds later another one from it was the same being that did it, I'm sure because it was the exact same scream, exact same area, same thing, and we were like, that's the Medusa scream. That guy was legit. He we understood now what he was talking about. But it was bigfoot,
I'm sure. So the next night, same exact stuff. Those juveniles. They're back, you know, a little less activity, you know, But and then that next morning same about the same time, they coming to camp again. It did it three nights in a row. The fourth night it was raining and it was a lot less activity, but we still had
them coming into camp. But on that second night, if you went on pass where that guy had been camping, you go another several miles down and the road ends and there's a campground and there we was some bear hunters down there, and we had talked to him every day we'd go down there because we wanted to keep up with who was where, you know. And so the second night, way off in that direction where the bear hunters were, we heard four gun shots and I said, well, they're either drinking and
getting rowdy or they're having something going on in camp. And then just a few not even a minute or so later, we heard two more gun shots, and then within a minute or so we heard that Medusa scream from that area over there, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they're having activity and that's what they're cheating at. And so we were excited. And then the third night, somewhere between them and us, we heard the Medusa scream again, and so we're like, that poor young guy must have been scared
out of his mind. But anyway, that was that was really cool because we thought he was on drugs or something. Talking about sounded like a killer carry a sword around with it. Yeah, yeah, it's funny when you say Medusa's scream you call my sister that really, I know, That's what I was like. We even talked about it after he left, you know, before we went down there. I'm like, what was he talking about? Medusa scream? It just didn't make sense, But then we were like,
okay, because it did. It was so high pitched, you know how you hear on movies pterodactyls and stuff. That's exactly what it was reminiscent of. But I got excited because my recorder was right in that corner where that screen was coming from, and Barbara went ahead that next morning got hers and played it back and it picked it up good on hers and hers was in front, so when Shelley listens to it, she ought to hear something
good on that. Well, it was really high pitched, and all three of us we all said it sounded female, but we just had a feeling that it was like a like an alpha female. I think she was finally like saying, this is it? Leave this? Yeah, So it was. It was pretty interesting. Let's saying, let's go out. That's fascinating. I'd never heard that scream like that before. And if it hadn't had the whoop on the end, I would have said, I don't know what the heck that was. But it had a whoop on the end. Well,
I've heard other stuff, but not sound like that. Tell them about your daddy and the y'all's experience down there. Well, where I grew up, I was. I lived in Malta, Texas. We only had just a few hundred people in the little community. The school went to eighth grade and I was valedictorian in my eighth grade class. And I normally don't tell
people, but there was only three of us. We had like two grades in each classroom, you know, So fifth and six were together, seventh and eighth were together, and once you got out eighth grade, you had to go to high school. Any their New Boston, which was seven miles in one direction r and DCAB which was seven miles in the opposite direction, and I ended up I ended up going to both, you know, and
so because Decap was just more down to earth, I think. And anyway, so where this place was located though, was only probably about thirty forty miles from Falk, Arkansas, which is legendary in the Bigfoot community, you know, because of the legend of Boggy Creek. And a lot of my cousins lived up in Texa, Cana and in that area, and some of my cousins lived in falc and uh like I, you know, my Mama and Daddy had adopted me when they were forty one, and so I already
had two brothers that were twenty some odd years older than me. So all my first cousins were in their you know, twenties, and so I grew up with my second cousins, and I grew up playing with my second cousins in those woods in foulk Arkansas. But back then, when I was a kid, we didn't know that Bigfoot even existed. We didn't know what a bigfoot was, you know, and I didn't even really know about it until I was in my early twenties or so. But what we called that creature
in Fount, Arkansas was the Fount monsters. That's all we ever heard was a Fount monster, you know. My mama and daddy and everybody would say, oh, honey, it's not real, you know. But then the Legend of Boggy Creek movie came out and we went to see it, and she really had to tell me that because it said, you know, based on true events. And I went with my cousins and we were all looking at our parents like what, and they were saying, no, honey,
that's just a movie. They just do that to make it more exciting, and so we were like, okay. You know. Anyway, when I was about fourteen years old, it was Christmas and my mama was sick. She had cancer, and so she was in the bed in the front room of our house and my daddy and I were on the front porch hanging Christmas lights and there were blue Christmas lights and so it didn't light up very much, you know, and we had the front porch light off because we could
see better where we were putting them in spacing the Christmas lights out. We had a long house. It was almost like, you know, a long shotgun top house. On the on the left hand side of the porch was the car port. Then on the right it was just you know, we had woods all the way around us, and a pond back behind us, and a dirt road in front of us. It was so dark out there, and we were on the right hand side of the house, opposite from
the car port. And when we were hanging the Christmas lights, coming from the left hand further on down, you know, away from us, sounded like it was coming from on the other side of where my Mamma's house used to be. Next door, we heard just this. It was gosh, it was so scary. It was like a moan, a roar, and a growl altogether. And I had never heard anything like that before. And it was so loud, you know, it's just and it's scared to crap out of me. And I looked at my daddy and I was like,
what was that, Daddy? And he was he just paused for a second, and he said, I don't know what that was, but let's just and finish this. Well, my daddy, like I said, he was forty one when he adopted me, and that was back in sixty six when I was born. So my daddy had been in three wars, Vietnam, World War two, and Korea, and he never was scared of anything. But I could just tell that, you know, he stopped and looked in
that direction, but he's like, let's go ahead and finish this. And so I was like, well, let's let's go in because I've never heard anything like that before. And he was like, no, let's just go ahead and finish this. And so we're trying to get it up, and thank goodness, it was not a very long porch. But as we're working our way to the left, you know, we get to about the her and we hear it again, but this time it's closer up, and he says, go in the house and get my gun. And I said,
I'm not leaving you out here. And I said, please, come on, let's go in the house. He goes, no, just hurry up, go in the house and get my gun. I said, no, Daddy, I was about starting to cry, you know, I said, let's go in the house please, And about that time, from the carport area, we heard it again, and this time I've just busted out in tears and he's pushing me in the house and he just pushes right on by
me. Well, my mama was, you know, right there in that first front room in the bed, and she sees me, you know, crying, and he's running through the house, going to go find his gun, and he's coming back out and she's like, what's going on. And I'm like, there's a monster outside of well, you know what I'm trying to make the sound for. And I'm worried because Daddy now is just going
out there. And so I go into my room, which was on the opposite side from where my mama was and on the side that the carport was on, and I'm looking out the windows, following him around the house to make sure nothing got him. And he comes back in there and he's like, there's there's nothing out there. I don't see anything at all. And he had a flashlight, you know, and had his gun and all that,
and I'm still just shaking, you know, and Mama's scared. Now so he tells me, he said, go in there and call your Ain't Overly. Now, my Ain't Overly was my mama's sister, and they had all grown up in that area, and Ain't Overly was already in her probably
sixties at this time, so she had lived there forever and ever. And so I'm in there telling her what we've just heard, roaring and growling and moaning on the phone by trying to make this sound, and she said, oh, honey, that's probably just miss clay Shulchi's bulls across the street from us, you know. And Miss clay Shulchie was an older, elderly woman lived there by herself, and she did she had, you know, her husband had passed away, but she still had the bulls and the cows and
the chickens and all that. There was a water tower over in the right side of her past and everything. And I'm telling you, we were in the country anyway. So that made me feel better, made my mama and daddy feel better, and so we slept okay well. The next days, Clay Shilty was at our house because she would come and give Mama her shots for pain relief, and so she was up there in the front room and my daddy was in there and he calls me and to ask me come up.
You know, I was in the back of the house where the liver room was at and he said, did we come up here and make that sound that we heard last night from his clay Shilty And she's just sitting there, you know, rocking in the rocket chair. And so he had already told her the story, and so I'm up there roaring and moaning and growling, and she's like, oh, mister Bob, I wish she hadn't told me that. And he said, no, he s it's okay because overly
told me that it was probably alls bulls or something. And she said, oh, no, no, mister Bob, I don't have any of my cows. Are my bulls over there right now? They're all up in decab and I don't remember what was having done. I can't remember exactly. It's like they were being bred or something. But anyway, she said, there's none of my bulls or cows are over there right now. And she says, as a matter of fact, something's been stealing my chickens. Of course,
we didn't know anything about anything at that time. We didn't know anything about Bigfoot. Looking back, I remember I was Daddy's girl, you know, and anywhere Daddy went, I went. I helped him with everything. He had killed a pulsum one time that was up around the house and we didn't it was late in the evening, so we didn't have time to bury it, and so he said, well, let's just go around back.
We'll put it in the trash can. We had, you know, a metal trash can, and so he said, we'll put it in trash can. We'll come back out in the morning, we'll bury it. And so he put the lid on it, and he put a big old rock on top of the lid so nothing would get into it and get it. And so the next day he called me and he said, come on, let's go out and bury the passum. And we go out back door, and you know, the trash can is still sitting there with the lid and the
rock and everything. So he takes the rock off, takes the lid off. He said, looked at me, what'd you do? I said, we talked about He said, the posum's gone, and I said, day, I didn't get that possum. I didn't do anything with that possum. He said, you serious, and I said no. And you know, we had no clue what had happened, but that lid was still on it, and that rock was still on that lid, but that possum was gone,
so something had to have taken that heavy. I mean it was a big rock, it was, yeah, it was at least the rock was at least like a foot all the way around foot with you know, foot wide, foot high. It was a heavy rock. That was interesting. So now looking back, I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah. And
we would hear all sorts of stuff. We'd hear high pitched screens. When we first moved there, I was a lot younger, but there was a railroad track on the other side of that water tower, and we used to hear screams and it sounded like a woman's screaming, and so of course Ain't over We lived there, and we'd always call ain't ovally anytime we didn't know what was going on. And she said, no, we thought it was a little lady that lived in that little pothouse by the water tower getting beat
up or something. And she's like, oh no, no, that's that black panther that walks up and down the railroad tracks, and so that's just what I always thought, you know, that was. And it may have been a panther for all I know, but yeah, there was lots of strange things going on around there, and that wasn't really the catalyst that got you interested. You just reflect back on math and you you put those things together, right right, Yeah, I mean, because I just love that.
I don't It's not the craziest story in the world. That's not the most action pack. But she told me that story, like what three years ago, would you ever retaill that? And she goes, and I haven't really seen her much or I had an opportunity to do it. It's just so cool, you know, looking back. And I remember too, I dated a guy from Foreman, Arkansas, and I was but I've always been interested in like the Fount Monster. I just didn't know what it was,
you know. We knew that there was supposed to be a monster, and some people called him the Boogeyman. My mama would always you know, when she said, well you be careful going out there, you know, the boogie Man will get you. We just thought that was the saying back then. But the Fount monster. Once we started hearing about the fount Monster and
stuff, and then the movie was made about Boggy Creek. We thought, okay, even though Mama and Daddy is telling us it's not real, when you start having people in the area talking about it, you know, you listen to that stuff. A guy I dated was from Foreman, Arkansas, and he had said that him and his daddy would go hunting and Foreman and that's not too far from falc either, you know. He said that he
remembers one time that they were they were coming out of the woods. They had parked alongside of the road and there was a big pasture out there,
and then the pasture was lined with trees and stuff. And he said that we're sitting in the front yard of my house in the car talking about this, and because I had told him about what I had heard, you know, you know, a couple of years earlier, because I was dating him when I was sixteen and he was seventeen, and so we're talking about stuff, and I was telling him about what I had heard when I was fourteen everything, and so he starts telling me this and he said, well,
you know, we were loading up the truck putting our guns and stuff in there, and my daddy was kept staring across the pasture and he goes, and I looked over there, and I said, he said, what are you looking at? And he goes, do you see that that creature? And he said there was an upright creature walking along the tree line on the backside of the pasture and went into the woods. And I remember but while he was telling me that, I was like, do you think it could
have been a fout monster? And he slung his car door up and went like he was being pulled out of the car, and I screamed bloody Murdier and my daddy came out on the front porch to see what was going on. But what's funny is we're Facebook friends on you know now on Facebook. And he had been living in North Carolina and him and his family were going to move back to Arkansas, but they found a cattle farm in Oklahoma,
so they were living in Oklahoma now. And I'll post stuff on my Facebook sometimes my personal Facebook about Bigfoot, and then I shared the show and stuff, and then I'll delete it after I've shared it and stuff. But anyway, so he was seeing Bigfoot stuff and so he messaged me after he moved to Oklahoma and where he's living now is not far from where we recorded with Gibbish what we call Tribulation Bab. So he started asking me questions, well
does big Say do this? And do they do that? And do they do this? And so I'm finally I said, why are you asking me all this stuff? And he said, well, my daughter's dating a guy. And he said that he's been hearing some weird stuff and he's describing all this stuff. And I'm like, that sounds really interested Todd. And he goes, well, do you think it could be big Foot? And I said, I think he could. I don't know if it is, but I think it could. And I said, I said, where does where
does he live? And he's he was telling me, and so I'm pulling up Google Maps. He said he lives just like three miles from me, and so he's telling me where he lives. I said, can you just send me a pen? You know on Google Maps it was like five miles from Tribulation Bay who were recorded, And I told him, I said, I said, you don't want to hear what he's going to tell you.
And he's like what And I said, your house is real close to this, and he's like yeah, And I said, let me send you a link, and so I sent him the link that carry Arnold did on Sisters of the Moon. When we're talking about all that, I said, I said, you're going to hear a story where we recorded gibberish and had a lot of activity. I said, that's about five miles from your y'all spar and he was like yeah. So now he's all the time sending me stuff. But it's pretty cool.