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I know that it has Leonardo DiCaprio in it. And I know it has, it's directed by Martin Scorsese. That's it. So all you need to know, we can go forward in the movie killers of flower of the flower moon directed by Martin Scorsese and based on David Grant's book. He was with the New Yorker. The story of the old sage indigenous tribes, rain of Teranoke, Oklahoma during the early of 20th century is portrayed in this episode.
We will delve into one of the earliest cases investigated by the newly formed. It was called Bureau of Investigations. It's really the FBI, which unfortunately botched the investigation. We also discuss how these crimes have affected the victims and their descendants for over a century. And this is for this episode. We have, of course, the Osage murders with a pdf page killers of the flower moon by David grand Oklahoma Historical Society National Geographic PBS short film festival.
Osage Nation.gov famous trials.com. That's a really good one. And PR for share Britannica, oxygen TV, the history channel. All that is interesting. Historical G men. The fact the tales of true crops and criminals by Jim Dirty, atlas Obscura of some very rare photos. Really cool. The YouTube channel called the 1920s channel that I'm really into right now. And Rolling Stone. Good job, friend. That's a lot. It was a lot to go through. So we'll just start with.
How do we even describe like the colonization of America and what happened to indigenous people? This happens around the world, by the way. It's not that we're just flagging our country. This happens all over the world. People colonize other areas. And then the culture that was there before tends to get diminished. If not demolished, moved away. The Osage people, not that different. They were based mainly in Kansas in around the early 1800s.
And then they got the government would come in and because of things we were taught in high school like manifest destiny. And the Louisiana purchase and boon and what's his face like going at the tunes. Oh yeah. You know what I'm talking about. Anyways, it's just this idea like well we're supposed to just keep going and going until we hit the ocean. That's just how it is. And so people just come back and nothing bad happened. The end.
And they had to anyway. In the mid to late 18th, I'm sorry 19th century, there was a civil war here in America when war was over the South really was a total mess of their own doing. But they a lot of people that lived in the South, especially if they were farmers, could not farm where they were because it was such a mess. So they started moving up north and middle America. And so in the 1870s around then people were going into Kansas like, ooh look at all this flat land.
We like flat land. We want to move here. And so the government was like, okay, Duk will figure that out for you and will move people around. The Ose Age Nation was one of those tribes. So they were encouraged kind of forced to move to Oklahoma, which was very rocky and not very smooth. And the the elders, they made a deal. They with the government, they took a certain amount. They took some like a dollar an acre or whatever.
And they were given to they were put in this one land. And it was in Oklahoma. And then the Ose Age eventually they called themselves like a county, like a region, the Ose Age region. But it turns out that the elders kind of knew what they were doing because they said, we don't want to own just the land on top. We want to own everything underneath it as well. So if you find gold or whatever, that's supposed to be ours. And then you have to pay us.
And the government's like, they're not going to find it crap there. Fine. And then 1890s oil was discovered. You know, just like the Beverly Hill billies like they found oil. It turns out it was worth about $400 million annually. So the Ose Age people were given, they were they were called a tribe heads. They were they were allowed.
Every person in the family was that was an Ose Age person full blood. You had the right to the territory. So you had a vote. You had your own thing that you were given as a person. You had that one, you were given like like that one credit. If your parents died and they gave you the credits, then you had three. You had yourself and then you had theirs.
What was happening was that also the government made it okay for inter, we just say, an racial marriage, but it didn't you didn't have to be full blooded Ose Age. If you married a white person or any other kind of person, you are now a couple. And the Ose Age person had that money, but it was technically for the both of you. So what's going on is at the Ose Age nation, people are making the equivalent of $200,000 a year at a nowhere.
So people started spending it like crazy. It was a free for all basically people kind of some people as you know it's like winning the lottery. Some people know to like pay your taxes, put you know get it incorporate get it incorporated or whatever. Some people don't know that shit. And some of the people in the Ose Age people went kind of crazy and you know we're buying multiple cars and they didn't know how to keep the cars going.
So the cars fell apart. They just left it in the bud and bought another car. This is stuff that still happens. It still happens. This is totally normal. People are not taught. It's really not taught in school like how to manage money. Right. How to deal with your finances. So unless you come from money where this is something that is constantly dealt with. You probably don't know what to do. And this is still a thing that say like people who sign like huge sports contracts.
Right. Or or rap. Like not rap. I was going to say rap, but it's actually like any kind of musician. Yeah. They sign these contracts. They get a shit ton of money. And then maybe they hire a business manager to help them who probably rips them off. But like you know they they maybe do those sort of things, but they don't think about like paying their taxes.
Like what are the taxes on the like cars and property and the other things they buy. And then they blow through all that money and now they're fucked. Everybody comes along too. Like they find the wealthy relative. Yeah, Oprah talks about that. Like all of a sudden people who never had anything to do with her all of a sudden. Yes, they're showing up and it doesn't seem like a big deal. Like if you have it and somebody needs like 20 grand because someone sick and they need an upper.
I was like sure, but then all of a sudden a lot of people in your life can start coming along. Right. And so these so some and it wasn't so exactly and it got into so this is happening in the 1910s 19 teens just before World War One. There are you know some of them go to Europe and they're buying clothes right off of the Paris runways. Some of them take their kids with them on those trips. Some people they just take these lave it. They tend to keep modest homes.
But they will buy like furs or they'll buy a nice car or you know and some people wear the latest fashions and some people prefer to wear what they always wore or what's traditional. People are different people have different responses. And yes, we don't have a tell a hell of a lot of money literacy. And especially then like most people didn't know. But at one point in this part of the country they were it was the wealthiest nation in the world.
It was the wealthiest group of people and there wasn't that many of them but they just each one once again had this allotment that they were entitled to when the courtly it was quarterly. So some of the women are some of the people are getting married like I said and they're developing there and also what's happening is that people are moving into the area bootleggers and nared wells and you know people that just flying through town.
And people are setting up shops and then charging five ten times what they really cost because you know these people have money. Right. And they do that to the Osage people not to the white people it's like there's two different menu prices kind of thing. And they and there's people that it's still there's still some racism. There's also some some Osage people some didn't learn English because they were raised on a reservation had to go to these schools.
And so some of them don't learn their native language or they don't learn English and so there's when you have that language. You know conflict yeah the barrier the barrier it can put you also at a disadvantage to be taken advantage of. So what's happening is what people are getting some people are moving in and some people haven't a final life and they're traveling occasionally and they're able to take care of their elders and they're able to take care of people.
Some people love to travel some people you know for me the thought of traveling in like 1910 is terrifying because you know how are you going to get there and what happens. Yeah it sounds like it's too scary to me. But one of the people that lives there that is the white guy is William K. Hale Robert De Niro plays him in the movie. And he is a man that's he's a white man with two nephews he's originally from Texas and he is the guy that he.
Oh sorry there's nothing else I forgot to mention because of the spending and there were all these stories coming out like look at these people and they're spending these you know they're and it was I'm saying some offensive. They put a sort of like the red skin spending money. Yes and you look at happens when you give certain people money they don't know what to do with themselves and they're infantilized we people treat people like children that they don't respect.
So then the government actually set up a system of guardians to watch people to make sure that they're not going to get ripped off or they don't spend their money on crazy things. But who gets the guardianship and who doesn't and there's a story in here about a man who served in World War One.
He's like I went to France to fight for this country and now I can't sign my own checks and believe and what a shock those people got ripped off by people who just claim to be doing the right thing the good thing. So this William K. Hale person has his two nephews and he's figuring out pretty pretty quickly you know if you start marrying into these families and that person dies you get that money these head rights that's what they're called excuse me.
That's from the O.S.H. Act of 1906 there's 229 people and they're making the equivalent about 200,000 a day so if what your parents dies you get that one and so it increases your money so there's white people that are marrying O.S.H. people some people fall in love but some people do it for the money. And this William K. Hale dude is a real asshole. He's the guy that by the way he doesn't just own a store which once again has two different sets of prices.
He's somebody that's also he's the he runs the mortuary he helps with the detectives in town he knows all the people at the newspapers like he's that guy he knows he's running the town he's running the town so if he doesn't like something he can make something happen.
Yes. So when we're talking about the O.S.H. murders they apparently took place between 1918 and 1931 and people were shot poisoned strangled stabbed all kinds of things and their the death toll is above 60 but frankly it could actually be in the hundreds right because so many people just disappeared and this is mainly one of the things that they're doing. Mainly women that were married off to dudes or yeah it's easier to do that.
It's a we'll get to that okay because men are killed to by the way okay so it begins with. There's there's killings that happen once again some people all of a sudden they just die like oh they have a wasting away disease or they have this or that. They just were clumsy and they fell and whoops they they still in a knife or this person they just drink to this knife 32 times exactly.
He ran into my knife they actually ran themselves over with their cars like there's all kinds of like crazy shit and you can't prove it because once again like and there's no federal there's no FBI and at the time when there was they weren't really around to try murders that wasn't considered a federal offense that's more of a local thing. And when the local people own the town who do you go to so that's the whole reason why it was developed was so people had this place to get justice.
It starts with Charles Whitehorn in 1921 he full blooded Osage he was just he was from downtown Pauska. He was shot twice between the eyes and his widow had he had married a disreputable man La Roy Smitherman he they were in cooots together and they had him killed.
Then there's a woman named Anna Brown and there's five murders that are in particular that are really important there's Anna Brown Henry Rowan Bill and Rita Smith and Nettie Brickshire who was there made so Anna is a beautiful Native American woman and she's very traditional she likes to wear the traditional garb she's not flashy but she likes her money.
Okay that's Molly her sorry her sister Anna same thing but she is divorce and likes to drink and dance and corouse with white men she was written that she had. According to her servants she had there was a big deal by the way of like these are these Native people that had white servants and I would have them to if I were them I'd be like oh bestie on Goneal come over. It's just like Anna sounds like super fun to party with.
Anna is a hoot it reminds you of Northern exposure do you remember that episode the Thanksgiving episode where all the so did you watch that show. Yeah I did there's a not consistently they they have an indigenous people as part of the cast.
Yes of the show and on Thanksgiving day it as part of the town the indigenous people get to throw eggs at the white people and everyone just as a good sport about it because like okay that's that's why I'm fine with this I'm totally fine with this we can still do this you want to throw eggs at me on Thanksgiving knock yourself out I'm fine with that as I was girl that's best you need all. I'll get the stretch I'll dress up as bacon if it makes it easier for you whatever whatever.
So there's Anna there's Molly there's Lizzie who's the mother and there's mini it gets a little confusing because there are a lot of M names mini was just 27 when she died and she was an excellent health and then they they said she had a confounding disease oops we don't know what's wrong with her.
Anna was 34 at the time of her death she was divorced she had taken into drinking dancing and carousing until the sun rose and as according to her servant who also said she had very loose morals with white men. And I was up all night to get lucky up all night you know sleep all day she loved jazz clubs she'll go to Kansas City and have some fun she loved like whiskey also so so Molly was married to William K.
And I was a little bit hailed nephew earnest and earnest burr cart was his nephew and that he's played by we are not a caprio sorry caprio he plays her I'm sorry I'm just and then I was just let me sorry I don't have the cast list in front of me I wanted to get the name of the woman who's the lead oh it's Lily Gladstone thank you she's getting tons of great reviews so she's Molly in the movie.
So Lily Gladstone will play plays Molly Molly is married to earnest earnest is the nephew of William K. Okay K. King help sorry his mill name is king and he thinks he's like the king by the way of Osage and thinks he's a big deal Robert near a place once again. So one night Anna is so Anna visits occasionally but she likes to go out drinking Molly's living with her husband and she has her mother and they have two kids with them and then she has her elderly money mother living with them.
Molly comes over for a party I'm sorry Anna comes over and it's a daytime party and Anna shows up and she's wasted and Molly's pissed in there. Yes but she leaves and and her sister saying like dude get your shit together basically like come on I have guests over my racist mother and law has given me a hard time like don't give people fodder don't shit been there too. Yes I am very very relatable to feel seen.
So earnest offers to take to drop Molly off at home and he also has a brother named Brian so they're taking her home I'm sorry Anna home and Anna just disappears. And then a week later she is her body's found and at first they decide oh she just drank herself to death and fell in the water she's like by this creek bed. But the autopsy show that she had two bullets in her head.
Yeah that's not drowning. Yeah so the king of the Osage Hills I'm sorry did you just hear that my legs had just went off the king of the Osage County. Anyway he was saying oh we're going to find you know people we're going to find who did this but he had absolutely no interest because spoiler he's the one that's taking advantage of all these people he encouraged his nephew.
To Mary Molly so that he would get her head right so he would get that money and he just went along with it because he was kind of a sad sack and a sap that's what he got is. All right Lizzie gets weaker and weaker and they also has a disease that she's old she's like 60 so that's definitely older for the time 100 years ago.
Yeah but she's one of those people like she was really sharp and she was declining a bit but not wasting away and then boom she's dead and they couldn't figure out and so all this is happening very quickly. There's a man named William steps in who is a steerropper who one day just like suffocated he fell over with into convulsions and it turns out he had strict nine poisoning.
Oh my god then there's a man named bar there's a few killings in August of 1922 there was one guy that was like a true friend to all the Osage people white man who was an oil man and it was very very wealthy and he said oh I've got some friends from world war when he had some friends that
in Washington in DC he says I bet I can get them to help us and so he because it's all these deaths are happening like I said it's just one after the other entire families are certain get picked off and wiped out and this king guy this sorry king hail king hail guy is like getting all the money one of the people that he he has killed he put 25,000 dollar life insurance on him and just collect the insurance by the way some of the people
that are killed hail is just getting their money he says nope that belongs to me now and then they just hand them like 25,000 dollars which is and some money because he's just running the town so they're just doing what he says no matter what yeah I mean he comes in and says oh I've got paper work like that person there that belongs to me they sent that to me or this person owed me money and so I need this he just got it I mean people didn't really fight him yeah that's fucking bananas
so that he could just do that and people are like he seemed he was the undertaker and he was the guy that ran the store and he knew everybody and he had a lot of money himself because he was accumulating this wealth yes and so people are scared to speak up because they don't want to get that they don't want to be next yeah
they're afraid so Barney once again Barney McBride he goes to DC he he's talking to his friends and he's hanging around like hey do you hear about these murders like this is going on we think it's an inside job we think there's somebody that's killing these people
and he's at a billion's club having you know having drinks with with some dudes and he steps outside the club to smoke or whatever and one of the dudes that he was shooting billiards with puts a burlap sack around his head and then stabs him 20 times in order to get the attention of the press
so this was something that would go back to Oklahoma oh my god yeah Christ yeah there's another case in February a few months later February of 23 there the body of Henry Rowan was found he was married he had two kids he was 40 years old and he was just
helped over in his car shot in the back of the head and once again Hale came up and said I'm you know his best friend he's yeah he basically he was like the mirror of fair facts and got his money and he got his money he also he was able to talk his Rowan's wife was having an affair
and the guy that she's having an affair with like Rowan had threatened him so he had Hale killed Rowan killed but Hale got the money once again $25,000 there's Bill and Rita Smith so Bill was very and some people have I just got to say white names I mean it's some people are or Osage but they write so sometimes people change their last names and all the backgrounds people to Italian whatever yes but he he went to the town council and he said I think there's this evil spirit that's
invading our community and one of the I'm sorry one of the people he goes to a town hall to talk about everything that's happening and one of the people said maybe it's an evil spirit and he's like now the evil spirit is in human form and when he said to name the murderer he wouldn't say who it was but he had a suspicion and so Bill was with his wife Rita at home and they had a white servant seven-year-old Niddy Brookshire and that night they're in their home and at three in the
morning they hear a blast and the house is just decimated with it was a nitroglycerin blast so it everything and it was like arms and legs and body parts like awful this is awful and Bill so Rita and Niddy died right away Bill actually hung on for a few days so he said they got Rita and now they're coming to get me and once again people are like we've got to get help and so they go back to DC and J. Edgar Hoover who was 30 years old and was a good administrator he liked that stuff but he wasn't
exactly like like a crack investigator he was kind of weird right but he wanted to this he had an idea and an vision of what the FBI could be in the future because cars were becoming a daily occurrence people were buying motor cars that's why the oil prices were going up he just realized people were going to travel a lot interstate and they're going to be
climbing and so you need this federal agency to watch that so he hires a guy from Texas named Tom White and Tom White comes to investigate all these killings and what he does is he brings together a group of people and they work from the inside so they he hires guys ones to go to act like a rancher ones going to act like a hobo that's the wording of the time
one is a person who is of indigenous people descent but not Osage but he comes into the town and they get basically they start asking questions they're gathering information and they're finding out that Hale is pretty much the linchpin for all this he is the person that is causing all this damage and that he talked his nephew into marrying Molly
Molly is also getting sick at this time and she has diabetes and her husband is like taking care of her with diabetes but she realizes like I don't think this guy is looking out for me I think and so she was a catholic by the way and she tells her priest I'm really worried
I keep feeling worse and I my mother died my sisters died like everyone's dying yeah I dying too and he says what does he give you to drink and she's like well we have whiskey at night he's like all right no more whiskey don't drink anything that he gives you
and she gets better that's when she realizes her husband was poisoning her and they had once again two small kids so it's one of the reasons why people in the community and she was very well liked by the way so the Department of Justice finally does something about it
and they decide we're gonna okay we're gonna we're gonna put these people on trial this Hale guy everyone is talking about him Ernest pretty much confesses pretty quickly and says look I didn't want to they made me that kind of thing and over the years between 1926 and 1929 it's just a total fucking shit show as far as people is the trials people are witnesses are being intimidated it's they have mistrials they have jury tampering they have people threatening the jury
they have jury people that are being paid it's a total fucking mess but essentially the three main dudes that were a part of it were convicted they were given life sentences but here's the thing about life sentences at the time life sentence was really more like a few years and none of them served more than 20 years for their time once again these are dozens of people were killed so fucked up that it took that long yeah Ernest says he confesses and he says oh please send me to jail I deserve it
but please don't send me to leavenworth because that's the that's the prison in Kansas or the jail in Kansas or prison because that's where Hale is gonna be and he's like they'll kill me if you send me there and they're like fine so they send him to another prison Hale goes to leavenworth and who turns out to be his warden but Tim White the guy that worked for the FBI that had him arrested
so he went from being an investigator he went from being a cop to an investigator to a prison warden and then he worked on a parole board after that this guy's whole life was about crime from beginning to end well it sounds like he really just following Hale around from thing to thing like wherever you go I will be deciding your fate pretty much when he goes so they all go to jail for certain different amounts of time and they all get paroled at a certain point
Ernest actually asked for a pardon because he later said that he was cajoled into participating and he didn't kill anybody directly and you know it was you know I was in my fault I was just I was just a pat see or whatever and he actually was paroled
but the other he was actually pardoned and paroled they all eventually got out I mean some were killed young some got to live to an old age Molly shouldn't have been pardoned that's not no isn't that fucked up I mean it's gonna put me like I'm too dumb to be in charge come on give me a pardon now fuck that yeah fuck that gun so Molly divorces him I should hope so she remarries and it's a happy marriage but she dies a few years after that just to other causes not because of this
yeah so anyway that's just this very big overhead look at this I'm dying to see this movie there's there's so much more I could go to but I think they're gonna do that in the film and I kind of want to I want to see it for myself but it's just it's it's hubris
it's racism there's it's got everything murder it's got everything this film has everything and then in your own Leonardo DiCaprio reddened freezer Brendan Frazier's in this movie I'm dying to know who he plays it's got lemons Jesse Plumman Jimmy's Jesse Plumman's plays the FBI guy he's always fantastic so I think it's gonna be amazing this is one of the first cases of the FBI it was a big deal for them to seal the deal I mean they could have done better
and there's a lot of people that they did a lot of murders they didn't solve yeah but and the people so also what happened in Congress is that they became a law that only Osage people can get this money so it doesn't matter if you get married to somebody like you have to be full-blooded so that's another thing anyway that's our creep this week the Osage Indian murders and William King Hail fuck that guy
seriously fuck that guy good job my friend thank you that is it's a lot interest it's a lot it's a really interesting story and it makes me excited to see the movie no we are not being paid for this no apple I wish I would I would love some of that sweet sweet apple TV money
but it is not happening good job my friend thank you my friend would you like to hear some non creepy things yes please okay I mean this is we're in the middle of something really fucking creepy in the world you know and I'm sure everybody knows that there's you know
the Israeli Palestinian conflict that is happening it's awful it's it's really it's fucking terrible basically it's a surprise hot take everybody we think it's fucking terrible but as usual when things like this happen like I tend to feel very helpless and then I look like how can I help so I looked up some organizations that help Israeli and Palestinian victims and animals
yeah so here's just a list of a few places these are like not political they are not picking sides these are like independent impartial organizations that are helping victims of the conflict I mean especially likes civilian conflict you know people who are impacted by this so a couple of places you could donate to and we're going to link to them in our show notes
so the first one is doctors without borders yes I like to talk about borders yeah non governmental independent impartial neutral they're just there to help people again we're going to have links in the shown notes the international committee of the Red Cross they are they would love just like everyone we all want to end to the violence they are there helping victims on both sides
civilians what up like everybody there is the save the children organization that's specifically like helping children that are impacted in the conflict there this is one of my consistent donations is the international rescue committee they come in during these kind of humanitarian crisis and help people you know get through it and help them rebuild after so that's a really that's a great one to donate to and then I looked up a couple of animal organizations in the area so there's one called the
salula animal rescue they are the only animal rescue organization that's on the Gaza strip they've been there since 2006 and they're taking an animals like you can go to the website and donate there's the animal and environment association Bethlehem shelter and they are providing treatment for dogs and cats and other injured animals no really it's really sad y'all this is fucking terrible and then there is the spca Israel they are there as well and they are taking in injured animals
or just animals that are abandoned and things like that and they're trying to take care of them and then they want to help find them new homes you know as quickly as possible so you can donate to that those everybody's it's all going to be in the show notes so those are like not creepy things that you can do if you're feeling a little hopeless and helpless right now which I think a lot of us are good job so you thank you that's thank you that's
fantastic okay to change the subject just to pivot a little bit yeah if you like the sound of our voices and you like to listen or listen about listen excuse me excuse me yeah here about cheesy movies at Halloween time this is the show for you we go to show cold drinking out where we're
dark out about movies in October we love to talk about scary movies so what are we talking about next we are going to do a nightmare on Elm Street three dream warrior dream over years I watched it last night movies bananas it's going to be so fun to talk about
I know that like I don't know about other people but when my anxiety is kind of yes than usual I actually find like scary movies to be really helpful some people told me they think that's kind of weird I don't think it's weird at all it's like I
don't know it's like a release yes definitely same I don't know how scary dream warriors is but it'll be fun to talk about excellent yes all right so if you give us your suggestions everything we mentioned at the top of the show your ideas for creeps and for
non creeps reach out to us we love it we use the any pots gift we got one from ghost busters or just be clever think of something on your own I know not everybody's into ghost busters don't know why but okay some people just seems sounds wrong but whatever you do you do you
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