¶ Intro / Opening
Welcome to Well Designed. I'm your host, Brandi Healy, and I'm here with my co host, Kyle Wood. Hi, Kyle.
Hello, and welcome, people who are listening. A few people, there were a few people lately who've told us we should do some shout outs of people who... I know Kara, one of my clients, Kara, likes to listen to the podcast. What about you?
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Alright, so, we can save your last shoutout for the end if you haven't found it.
Uh, yeah, I can't find it, and, um, so I apologize, but I, Yeah, this is my, this is the problem of having, like, Splenic authority and open throats and Uh, if you do listen to it, uh, send me a DM on Instagram or something or an email. And, uh, I'd love to include you. Yes. Okay. So now you can, now, Brandi, you can introduce the episode. Okay,
great. Thank you for that. All right. So our last episode, we talked about the root center, both. Undefined and defined. And what we realized after the fact is that this episode should have come before it. So here is your episode where we talk about the centers. All nine of them, not just one. So we're going to give you a very general overview of each of the nine centers in human design and what they govern. And then we are going to, in following episodes from here.
Talk about each one individually, just like we did that last episode about the root.
¶ What are Centers in Human Design and why do they matter?
So Kyle, what is a center?
So in human design, there are nine centers and each, I guess, speaks to a different part of your makeup, um, as a person. So by looking at these, Well, first off, one of the main things your centres are used for is to determine your type, which we've covered before. Uh, so if you've got certain centres coloured in, which we call defined, then that can impact you. That can decide which type you are, because that's parts of you.
Defined parts of you, colored in parts of you, are where you impact the world around you. It's where you, sort of, send energy out. Uh, if we're getting into wu wu energy. I need to get away from, like, feeling uncomfortable. I feel uncomfortable when I start talking about energetics because I've never worked with that. But then it's, it's weird because I come from a background in, like, fitness. And so I very much
understand that. But you have lots of... Yeah, and,
yeah, exactly, and how like small things can impact people energetically, and how just being around certain people can impact you energetically. So, I do understand this. Uh, and then, you, or, or, you know, I've sort of skipped a bit here, but I'm going to keep going with this and then we'll circle back to the body graph and show what they actually look like. So then, these things, these things called centers are sometimes not colored in.
They can be clear or white and then that means you're undefined or open. And that's where you are more impacted by others. That's where you like absorb energy from the world and people around you.
What I love about open centers or undefined centers is oftentimes people see this as like a weakness, right? Cause that's where we're sensitive, but it's also, these are kind of our superpowers. Cause these are where we have our biggest lessons to learn in life, where we're here to become wise. And often we're, we're here to teach others as well. It's like we learn the lesson and we share that lesson with other people.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can definitely speak to that. When we get to talking about the Solar Plexus or Emotional Center, and also, yeah, just spoke a bit about it at the Roots Center, and how those two open centers have, um, brought some challenges in my life, but yeah, also a lot of, uh, empathy. But, Brandy, do you want to share about, because I kind of skipped, how... You can even look at what your centers
¶ How can you find your Centers on the HD body graph?
are. So how do we know what centers are what in a human design?
So when you look at your chart or, you know, as it's also known the body graph, it's sometimes there's like a little, you know, outline of a human and then there are different shapes. So there'll be nine different shapes. So starting from the top, we have the head center and then we have the mind, which will be the head center is a triangle that's pointing up. And then you'll have the mind right below it. That is a triangle that is pointing down.
Then the third center from the top will be a square, and that square will be your throat. And then going down from there, the fourth center down the middle will be your identity, and that will be a diamond shape. Below the diamond shape, there will be another square, and that will be the sacral center. And then at the very bottom, there will be a final square that is the root. Then you'll have these other shapes off to the side.
So on the left side, there will be a triangle facing in, that is the spleen. On the right side, there will be a triangle facing in, and that's the emotions. And then kind of floating up in the ether is like a little bitty triangle. That is the ego. So, there is your dissection of the human design anatomy, if you will.
Yeah, yeah. Or, um, you know, your, your circuit in a way, isn't it? You know, it looks a bit like a circuit with these like different, you know, if you put your computer open, you see all these little like squares and circles, um, connected up by lines. So, so the human design chart kind of looks like that as well. And if that made no sense to you, look up YouTube. That's okay. Look up YouTube first. Rewind about.
Two minutes, and listen to Brandy go through that again, and that'll make more sense. But, I think...
You know, I even, we were, we were just reading this article that was talking about how oh yeah, you know, it's free to look up your chart and then there's often like paywalls to like understand this stuff and I think that's what we kind of want this podcast to be to, to at least give you, so you look up your chart and then you're like, Oh, this is not making any sense to me, which makes sense because there's a lot of information on there crammed into this one chart.
Uh, so hopefully this sort of helps. Yeah. Decipher what you're looking at. Um,
in a simple way. Yes, it's, it's the map key.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. It's the little, um, audio, you know, you click on it. Maybe we need to have that eventually, like a chart and you like click on the section and it'll play the podcast.
There are some of those, but you pay for them. Just like the article, just like the article said. That's where they get ya.
Breaking the rules here with, um, giving away some of the stuff for free. Uh, but it's just so helpful. Uh, so what's the next thing we need to talk about with centers?
Yep, so each of the centers governs a different area of our life, of our personality. So, should we start from the top?
Yeah, let's just go through each one and, and talk about, yeah, how that impacts. Uh, and then obviously if people want more info, that'd be, uh, there will be eventually a podcast, if not already out on that center that they can listen to.
¶ What is the Head Center and why does it create a sense of pressure?
All right. So starting from the top, that head center is it governs how we receive information or excuse me, how we receive inspiration. Um, and so it is also what's called a pressure center. So it, can be pressured to figure things out or to figure things out quickly.
So if this center is white, it will be open or undefined and we'll use the term undefined and open interchangeably just For the sake of simplicity here, and if that is shaded in, so it depends on what site you're on, it might be black, it might be gray, it might be a different color, but if it's shaded, then that center is then defined.
Yeah. Uh, yeah. I don't have a lot to add to that. I think, you know, if you've got, if you are undefined with this, it can sometimes, It can just be a bit challenging because you can be really open to other people's ideas, which can be a good thing or a bad thing. So it's always good with this one to like, take some time. Mine
is wide open. Yeah.
I'm defined, my wife's undefined, so I just feed her my ideas on this
one. It'll be fun when we talk about, when we get into these individual episodes, you know, we'll dig into these a lot more.
So. Alright. Do you want to take any turns, or do you want to keep going? No, you can do the next one. Okay. So the next one is the arrow just below, or the triangle just below that that's pointing down in towards the other shapes. And that's called Ajna. And, or, mind? That's referred to, some of these have like three different...
Yeah, it's mind. It's like mind, yeah, Ajna.
Yeah, mind.
¶ What is the Ajna (Mind) Center and what's it got to do with making up your mind?
Right. So, for the mind, the mind is the second shape from the top. It's going to be the triangle that points down into all of the other shapes. And so, this actually governs how we form opinions and insights that we're here to share. So, again, if this shape is white, um, it will be open or undefined. And if it is shaded in, it will be defined. And both Kyle and I have defined minds.
Mmm.
Mmm. Anything else you want to add on the mind? I'm like, I want to just start talking about... About the mind. You know, what it means to be open and defined, but I'm like, we have whole episodes that we have to talk about that. It's very tempting.
Yeah. Well, I think the, the main thing maybe with this one, and correct me if I'm wrong, is that if, we'll share a little tidbit, if you're defined with this, uh, it can be very easy for you to make up, make up your mind, like to feel like certain about things. Mm hmm. So just realizing that. For someone else, the reason they might feel uncertain about something is because they're undefined.
So giving them the space to, to be different to you and not expecting everyone around you to be as certain about things as you are is, um, can be really helpful. That's a little tip.
Yeah. And I think one of the things to also appreciate about people that have an undefined mind, my partner has an undefined mind, is they have this really beautiful gift of being able to see things. From all different angles, and so it can be useful to have someone with an open mind in your life if you have a defined mind and vice versa.
¶ What is the Throat Center and what's it got to do with sharing?
All right, so the third center is the throat center. So Kyle, do you want to talk about this one?
Yeah, the, uh, this is one I've worked on a lot because I think especially when we're undefined an area and I have an undefined throat. He can. It is, it is an area we need to work on and something we didn't touch on as often when we're undefined in an area, we, we get conditioned by the world about around us because we're being impacted all the time through these open or undefined centers that we can start trying to operate like those around us. And that's not how we're meant to operate.
So this one for me has been a big one to work on because your throat is all about how you communicate. So, with an undefined or open throat, you might find it easier to not over prepare what you're going to say, and, um, we can get into also not speak when you're feeling like a lot of pressure to speak, like, oh, I need to, like, contribute to this, so I'm gonna speak up.
Uh, on the other side, if you have a defined throat, it can feel really good to, like, Be very consistent about what you, like, you know, work out what to do, what does that voice sound like and be very consistent in the way that you communicate, um, and show up. Is there anything you'd add to that?
I was just going to say, fun little tidbit is so, as Kyle mentioned, he is undefined and I am defined and the way we prepare for a podcast is very different. I'm the notes queen, and, uh, Kyle really loves to shoot from the hip here.
Which is fun. Uh, normally I would still do some reading, but yeah, we'll get, that'll be a good one to get into as well for the individual throat episode. I feel like it's one we've both experimented with on both ends of the spectrum. Mhmm, and it looks
very different, um. But at the same time it
works. Yeah
All right, so do you want to do the next one as well we can
go to the identity next
¶ What is the Identity (G) Center and what does it have to do with nightclubs and nature?
yes Yeah, so the identity stands out. It's an easy one to find because it's it's a diamond or a square turned 45 degrees It's like a diamond if you make one with your hands. I'm making one right now as Called, like, the G Center as well, but, but some of these names, like, Ajna, it's easier to remember that as, like, Mind, instead of G Center. Um, it's easier, can be easier to just remember that as, like, your Identity Center. And, so this is a very important center, because this is where, um...
Your sense of identity comes from. Uh, so if you're undefined here, it might feel more natural for you to have like a more fluid sense of identity. So depending on where you are and who you're with, you, you might notice that you change in the way you express yourself and the way you are. And that's, that's natural to you. Uh, whereas if you're defined, you might have a clearer sense of identity.
And, I think, you know, for the defined identity center people, in some ways, the way life is presented to us, it can be easier, because you have, having that sense of identity can give you more faith, uh, more like esteem in yourself, uh, whereas having that undefined sense of identity, because there's this pressure to like, be defined, think of like, Social media and things like that, where people are presenting one version of branding branding. Yeah. Branding.
Everyone's branding their own personal self. Yeah. It, you might enjoy, you know, playing golf, but then you might also enjoy, uh, crocheting and then you might also enjoy like hanging out with a bunch of like. Um, old people or something like, you like 20, and then you might enjoy it. Like, you know, so you might just find, like, the things you enjoy and the places you enjoy. You might enjoy going to loud nightclubs, but then also really enjoy, like, spending time alone in nature.
Uh, so yeah, don't Try and like pgy
as somebody with an, with an undefined identity center. I feel very validated there and if this was something for myself, for myself personally, when I found this out, it made a lot of sense for me and was very valid. Again, very validating that, you know, I am designed to embrace my fluidity and instead of feeling compelled to show up consistently just in one way. Mm-hmm.
Hmm. That's so cool. Yeah, I have this defined, so I have no idea what it's like to be the other way, so that's really cool. Thank you.
¶ What is the Ego (Heart/Willpower) Center and what does it have to do with your self-esteem?
All right, so the next center that we'll chat about, so I'm going to kind of go off kilter than the way that I explained it at first. I'm going to go ego. So this is off to the right, kind of. off to the side of that diamond shape, that identity. This is the triangle. And this also can, um, be called the heart center in, um, other human design language. And the ego center, it governs our sense of will, our motivation, and our self esteem.
So, you know, for Kyle and myself, we both have a... defined ego. And so how this can show up is just a very powerful will to make things happen. Um, and you know, it's funny because like an example that is often shared is, you know, people when you're in the presence of somebody with a defined ego, you feel like you can do anything. And sometimes when these people leave, you kind of feel like the wind out of your sails.
Like, you get really jazzed and they're like, Oh, these people make great fitness instructors. And like, Kyle and I were like, Hey! Like, that really lives with us. Um. And it was really funny because there were actually a few other people that we trained with that were also fitness instructors to find egos. And so it was a, you know, really fun, fun little learning, uh, to find out about.
But, you know, I think especially for people that are leaders, um, you know, as we'll get into later, this could be something of like not expecting everyone to have the same kind of willpower as you do or for that willpower to carry on outside of your presence. And so on the flip side of that, for people that have a open or an undefined ego center, it's not that you don't have willpower, it's that it's inconsistent.
And so, you know, it kind of will ebb and flow the way that somebody with an, uh, open sacral center, which we'll talk about, um, how their energy can ebb and flow. So, if you have an open ego, your willpower or your, you know, um... Sense of self esteem can ebb and flow, and that doesn't mean that just because you have a defined identity or ego center that your self esteem is consistent.
Um, there are other caveats to that one as well, but these are, you know, we're trying to get through some broad generalizations here. Anything else that you want to share?
No, there's definitely more I'd like to say, but I think we'll save it. For like the episode we just do on that, because yeah, like you said, there's there, because as you were saying, willpower reminded me, I have heard this referred to as the willpower center before, which can be really misleading as well, because you can think, oh, I have, you know, crazy willpower if I, if I have this defined and it's not necessarily the case, but yeah, we'll get into that in, in the full episode. And
with each of these centers, just like with each type, You know, when we talk about type, we talk about, you know, signature and not self as the signposts. Each of these centers have their own signposts as well as, you know, when we are in our wisdom of this part of our design and when we're in our shadow. And that holds true for whether the center is open or whether it is defined. And so that's, you know, we will get into more of the like juice in, you know, these.
single, single, uh, center episodes. All right. So,
so we're going to the Sacral center now.
¶ What is the Sacral Center and what does it have to do with energy?
Yeah. So as I kind of touched on, you know, our Sacral center governs our energy for work. It's our, our life force. You know, our vitality. And so, you know, this is one of the pieces that Kyle touched on that determines whether, what our, what our design is, what our type is. So, if this center is defined, you are going to be a generator. Or a manifesting generator. And if the center is undefined or open, you will be a projector, a manifestor, or a reflector.
So when it's defined, that means that you have very consistent energy when you are doing things that you are lit up by. And when this is open, it means that you have an. Energy that ebbs and flows and depending on your type, that could be throughout the day over a course of days, weeks, months in the case of manifest manifestors, or it can depend on the energy that you are in in the case of reflectors.
Yeah, yeah, no, I think you nailed that one. It's, uh. It's a very, like, I guess, probably like the identity, I mean they're all important, but like the identity one, it's a, it can be a really important one because whether you have energy for something or not.
Again, there can be a lot of like, conditioning around here that, you know, if you've got that undefined that you're trying to keep up with people who have defined sacral centers a lot by trying to have as much energy as them and just ending up exhausted, ending up with adrenal fatigue. Burnout, things like that. So yeah, this would be a good one for us to get into because it is an important one, especially as it relates to your type.
Yeah, we have a lot of personal experience
with this one. Yeah. Yeah, I think, yeah, if you've got this one undefined, it's, it's shown up. You've definitely been in your shadow at some point in your life. If not all the times.
Yeah, right. All right, you want to go down to
¶ What is the Root Center and why does it stress you out?
the root?
We'll go down to the root, yes. So, um, so we just covered this one in an episode recently, but your root is your stress center. So it's the one that relates to your stress and your ability to handle stressful environments. Um, so, you know, if you're defined, your stress can feel a little bit more consistent. I would say, having talked to people about it, um, sometimes you're less bothered by your own stress and the stress of others around you with that defined.
So, uh, and often it's more sort of intuitive to you on how to, like, sort of move through that stress in a healthy way. Uh, if you're undefined here, you're more impacted by the stress of people around you, and you can end up feeling really stressed, uh, if you've got stressed out people around you. Okay, so it's important that... They'll
be calm, you'll be not
so much. Yeah, they'll be like, what are you freaking out about? Um, yeah, so it's important with this one that you've got ways of, of managing your stress and ways of reminding yourself how to use those, those things. Especially if you're going to be in stressful environments. And if you're like, how
do I do that? Listen to the episode before this
one. Listen to that episode on Root Centers with um, the funny name. Yes. Yep. Pogo sticks. Pogo sticks. Pogo sticks. There you go. So check that one out. Uh, alright. So we've covered seven centres now. So we've got two centres left. And they're the centres, the triangles pointing inwards out to the left and the right of the chart.
¶ What is the Solar Plexus (Emotional) Center and how does it effect our emotions?
So, uh, I'll let you speak to solar plexus. Okay. And I'll cover splenic.
Yep, that's perfect. So, it's funny, because that's what I have defined. That's fine. Is the solar plexus or the emotional center. And as the name suggests, it governs our emotions. So when we have the center defined, as I do, we have the ability to impact others deeply with our emotions. And when the center is open or undefined, you are sensitive to other people's emotions and can be deeply empathic. And so Kyle has the center undefined.
Yeah. Yep. I'm not impacted by other people's emotions, what are you talking about? No, I'm really looking forward to the episode we do on this, because it's um, it's really interesting having this, this centre undefined, uh, especially as a man, uh, because I'm highly sensitive to the emotions of the people around me, and I, like with anything, being, having an undefined centre, there's a wisdom to be found in it.
And there's, uh, things you can do to, to um, separate what's yours from other people.
Yes, very similar to the root.
Yeah, yep. So yeah, definitely looking forward to, to diving into that and talking about when I've been in my shadow about it and when I've been in my wisdom about it and sort of what the difference was and yeah.
Oh, that'll be a good one. All right. So the last, last, but certainly not least. So Kyle has this one defined is the spleen.
¶ What is the Spleen Center and what's it got to do with Bear Grylls?
Yeah. So that's, as you're looking at your screen, it's the one on the left with the triangle that's pointing inwards. Uh, so this is your instinct, intuition, survival, fear center. That's it governs all of that. So yeah, it's called your spleen. I actually don't know why it's called your spleen. I do on some of the stuff, but I'm not super interested a lot of the times because I'm just like, I just want to know what it does and how, how knowing about it can help me.
So yeah, this center, you know, if you've got this defined as I do, uh, there's always going to be an aspect of your decision making that comes more from this like instinctual, intuitive. place. Uh, and if you've got this undefined, that's when it can be really easy for you to be impacted by the fears of other people around you. So, you know, probably watching the news, not a good idea. I personally don't like watching the news because of my defined stuff. Cause I'm like, this is silly.
This is too much. Um, but yeah, there's. Yeah, yeah, with this undefined, yeah, making sure, um, you're around people who have their own, uh, fear in check. And as having this defined, I'd say there's definitely times when I have projected my fears onto other people in what was like maybe a way that didn't freak me out too much, but it would freak me out. So rattled them? Uh, it would rattle other people.
Uh, but yeah, but then it's also been this like superpower in, um, getting through, uh, challenging situations where people, uh, like, you know, I'm just thinking of like during COVID, there's like a lot of fear going on and I felt like I was able to stay fairly calm, especially around like from a business sense with my business and making decisions around that and what was the right decision to make and there's lots of aspects of my design that probably spoke to that, but yeah.
I have the center undefined and I can certainly attest that I absorb a lot of other people's fears and you know, one of the things that I've really learned is how to discern is similar to you with your emotional center, like what are my fears versus what are the fears of others? And it's.
Certainly a daily, a daily living experience, or it can be at times, at times, but yeah, this one is, this was a really, a really good one and I'm also looking forward to chatting more about this one, um, as well as it also relates to, um, you know, health.
Which
I think, um, for, you know, those of us in the wellness space, this is a really common one to have, um, undefined or open.
Cool. You know, I'm excited. Yeah, I know, it was hard. I know, I'm like,
every, every center, I'm like, I can't wait to talk about this one. This one's so good.
Yeah, we covered. Uh, so much. I think the only other thing, yeah, probably the other thing I'd say about centers and just to remember is, um, There's no, like, there's not better or worse, so being defined or undefined is not better or worse.
In fact, The, uh, having it undefined at, at first can seem like the negative because you're being impacted by other people, but when you, uh, meet people who, like, are, are reflect, we had a reflector on the podcast, that'll be probably the episode we release after this, you have someone with a lot, reflectors have all their centers undefined, so they're completely open, but speaking to someone who's Who's working out and worked out how to be in the wisdom of those Undefined Centres.
They have so much to give other people. There's so much they've learned about being able to experience all of the emotions, all of the fears, all of the stress, all of the ideas. So, yeah, don't think, uh, just because you've got undefined stuff, it's not as good. And same thing, if you've got lots of defined sentences, you might be more rigid, but you then have the power to really, like, impact other people. So, that is a superpower as well. So, not better or worse, just different.
It just says all aspects of human design, right? Like, it's not good or bad, it's just what is uniquely you.
Yeah. Yeah, and you have those little bits that are like this, and those little bits like that. Uh, I was going to say something else about centers. Well,
you have eight other episodes for it
to come back. No, it's not even going to come back. Yeah, yeah, maybe we'll get, get, uh, done with it. Yeah, so, uh, we need to listen
¶ Which Center should you focus on integrating first?
to this. Oh yeah, so I was going to say, where should you start with centers? Uh, it can be most helpful. As you go through, as we put out, we'll sort of intermingle these center episodes with other ones, as we're saying to have guests on the show go through. Have a look at your chart. Look up your chart if you haven't looked it up already, or have a look at it again, if you don't remember which of those shapes are uncolored or like clear that remember they, you're open or undefined centers.
And I would start with those first because, um, that is usually where we're being. Being impacted by other people so that can help you start practicing or thinking about ways that you can start separating like other people's Stuff from your stuff and it's like getting back to you Would you recommend that to Brandi or would you recommend starting with the defined
centers? No, even when I work with clients, I always start with undefined or open centers because again, that's those are Usually the places that we can be taken off track the easiest.
Yeah, yeah. I think, you know, the defined centres will show up in lots of different aspects of your design, like I said, like with your type. So just by knowing your type, you already have a bit of an understanding of how you're defined, some of your defined centres work. Uh, and then you can go from there. Yeah.
It was fun. Always.
Always, always, always. Uh, alright, so we'll be back. Uh... In your earbuds soon with, um, with a new episode and hope you enjoyed us. And like we said at the start of the episode, if you do have a message or if you just even wanna let us know that you're listening, uh, we would love to hear from you. So please drop us a review or a message and, uh, We'll chat
