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We Would Be Dead

A weekly true crime podcast that finds humanity in the darkness, humor in the history and the devil in the details.
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Based on a True Story (Veronica & The Exorcist)

There’s nothing that creeps our hosts out more than demonic possession. October is all about scares though, so this week we decided to wade back into those holy and turbulent waters, and what better way to do that then in another installment of our Based on a true story series! This episode we will be telling you the true stories behind two of the scariest films ever made, both of which are about a possession. Leslie brings us the true story behind the Netflix horror film, Veronica. Veronica was...

Oct 27, 20221 hr 47 minEp. 131

The Blackest Eyes (Charlie Brandt, Secret Serial Killer)

Thankfully not all horror movies are based on a true story, but if we look hard enough we can almost always find that if art isn't imitating life, life will imitate art. In the case of Michael Meyers, finding a real life equivalent wasn't easy, but I think we did it this year. (No it's not Stanley Stiers, that one is made up. Sorry guys). Charlie Brandt was a quiet man, a loving husband and a good friend. All in all Charlie was what you might call normal. His sudden death however, was anything b...

Oct 21, 20221 hr 52 minEp. 130

An interview with Author Jesse Pollack (Jeannette DePalma Bonus)

In this special episode Holly and Leslie speak with co author of the book Death on The Devil's Teeth Jesse P. Pollack. Jesse is an author, a documentary film maker, a writer for Weird NJ and an all around smart and interesting guy. Please enjoy this eye opening look behind the scenes at that it takes to unravel the truth, when it's spend years tangled up in rumors and lies. This interview deals with the still unsolved 1972 murder of 16 year old Springfield NJ resident Jeannette DePalma. Jeannett...

Oct 17, 20221 hr 45 minEp. 129

Sticks and Stones (Jeannette DePalma Part 2)

This two part episode and our subsequent special episode have been in the making for a long time. Our next two episodes we are covering the still unsolved 1972 murder of 16 year old Springfield NJ resident Jeannette DePalma. Jeannette went missing on August 7th 1972, just another runaway according to the police. We've seen this all before, but when Jeannette's decomposing body turned up 6 weeks later atop a large and perilous rock formation in the local quarry known as "the devil's teeth", peopl...

Oct 12, 20221 hr 51 minEp. 128

Waning Crescent (Jeannette DePalma Part 1)

This two part episode and our subsequent special episode have been in the making for a long time. Our next two episodes we are covering the still unsolved 1972 murder of 16 year old Springfield NJ resident Jeannette DePalma. Jeannette went missing on August 7th 1972, just another runaway according to the police. We've seen this all before, but when Jeannette's decomposing body turned up 6 weeks later atop a large and perilous rock formation in the local quarry known as "the devil's teeth", peopl...

Oct 05, 20221 hr 28 minEp. 127

Based on a Fictional Story 2 (Scary Stories to tell in the Dark)

In our second installment of Based on a Fictional Story" we explore the Scary Stories to tell in the dark series by Alvin Schwartz. This week we'll take a few of these legendary scary stories and pull on the possible threads of truth. Did a possessed scarecrow really skin people in a field? Can a green ribbon really hold on a human head for decades? And what about the viper, did he really vash and vipe the windows? Let’s find out… *Oh! Thanks for giving me a reason to write and read my own scary...

Sep 21, 20221 hr 20 minEp. 126

Murder House (The Los Feliz Murder Mansion)

Deep in the Hollywood Hills lies the stunning neighborhood of Los Feliz. There you'll find a diverse array of beautiful homes ranging from charming little bungalows to sprawling early 20th century Spanish revival mansions all tucked neatly into palm tree lined streets and sloping hills. In the middle of all this beautiful real estate sits one such mansion, long since abandoned but never empty, 2475 Glendower Place is a testament to our fascination with murder and the paranormal, it is both a leg...

Sep 14, 20221 hr 46 minEp. 125

Drink Me (Black Widow Stacey Castor)

On Monday August 21'st 2005, two Onodoga County NY police officers respondrd to a 911 call from a woman named Stacey Castor. Stacey presented an unusual story about her husband locking himself in their bedroom and refusing to come out. When police kicked down the door and made their way into said bedroom, they discovered David Castor, facedown on a filthy mattress, completely naked, dead. A glass of bright green antifreeze sat on his bedside table. It seemed pretty obvious to everyone what had h...

Sep 08, 20222 hr 8 minEp. 124

Based on a True Story 2 (Five Nights at Freddy’s)

Welcome to our second installment of Based on a True Story, where we tell you the real events that inspired and created some of your favorite scary things. This week we tackle one of the most popular video games of all time, a game that dares to scare you with characters an settings that may have delighted you as a child, Five Nights at Freddy's. We take you behind the ball pit to discuss the psychology behind why this game is a finely tuned nightmare machine. Then we take a dip into the fascina...

Sep 01, 20221 hr 38 minEp. 123

Bristol’s Angel (The Murder of Becky Watts)

On February 20th, 2015, friends of Darren Galsworthy were met with an unsettling sight while scrolling through their Facebooks feeds. Darren had posted a large photo of his teenage daughter Becky along with the following caption “PLEASE SHARE!!!!! missing 16 year old girl. please private message if you have seen her or know anything.” This is every parent's worst nightmare, but it pales in comparison to what detectives would discover happened to Becky in the place she should have been the safest...

Aug 24, 20221 hr 59 minEp. 122

Two Truths and a Lie

This week we have something just a little different to offer you. Holly and Leslie play a little game of two truths and a lie! Each host will tell three short stories, two of them are true and one is a lie! See if you can guess which is which, they don't make it easy. All six stories are the wildest, weirdest, scariest, silliest, and most unbelievable tales we have come across in our two years of bringing WWBD to you, so listen closely and don't forget to play along on our social media accounts ...

Aug 11, 20221 hr 22 minEp. 121

Mother’s In The Attic (John List)

On December 7th 1971, the Westfield police department made one the the most bizarre and terrifying discoveries in New Jersey history. After numerous reports of lights slowly shutting off at historic Breeze Knoll mansion, the police had been summoned to check on it's occupants. The List family, who had purchased the sprawling manse in 1965 had not been seen or heard from in nearly a month. The Lists were reclusive and peculiar people, with not many local friends or any family near by, there had b...

Aug 04, 20222 hrEp. 120

Dungeons and Dragons and the Devil (Satanic Panic)

THAT’S RIGHT STRANGER THINGS FANS, it was real! Not the actual hell beasts, but the misplaced fear and anger for sure. In the nineteen eighties and early nineties the United States was locked in a full scale panic. Law enforcement was convinced that cults of child raping, child murdering, animal sacrificing, pro suicide, ritual sacrificing, goat man loving, devil worshiping Satanists were bubbling up in every state. These monsters were on the loose, taking children at will, and summoning the dar...

Jul 21, 20221 hr 46 minEp. 119

In The Pines (The Jersey Devil)

The New Jersey Pine Barrens hold so many wild and dramatic secrets that we know this won’t be the only episode we devote to them. This week we’ll take a little walk through Piney history before focusing on the main event, Jersey’s very own monster… (not all state’s have one, so we’re very proud), the Jersey devil! Many of you will be familiar with the story of Mother Leeds and her cursed 13th child, but hang on to your hat because the origins of this dark and stormy tale are not what you might e...

Jul 13, 20221 hr 41 minEp. 118

Not a Runaway (The Disappearance of Katelin Akens)

In this, the first installment in our “Not a Runaway” series we discuss the mysterious disappearance of 19 year old Katelin Akens. “Katelin Michelle Akens was last seen on December 5, 2015, in the vicinity of Oak Crest Drive in Partlow, Virginia. She was visiting family in Spotsylvania County, Virginia, and was scheduled to fly home to Arizona on December 5, 2015. However, she did not board her flight and has not been seen since. On December 7, 2015, the Virginia Department of Transportation (VD...

Jul 06, 20222 hr 37 minEp. 117

Blaze of Glory (The Murder of Blaze Bernstein)

Blaze Bernstein was good. He was a good kid who grew into a good teen and was making a pretty smooth transformation into a good adult. Blaze was kind and talented. Blaze was adventurous and intelligent. Blaze was gay and Jewish. Sam Woodward was angry. Sam was an angry kid who grew into an angry teen and transformed into an angry adult. Sam was aggressive and isolated. Sam was confused and hungry for attention. Sam was a homophobic white supremacist. This is the story of 2 boys who grew up just ...

Jun 22, 20221 hr 58 minEp. 116

Missing Pieces (The Murder of Kitty Genovese)

On March 27th 1964, the headline: "37 Who Saw Murder Didn't Call the Police; Apathy at Stabbing of Queens Woman Shocks Inspector" was splashed across the cover of the New York times. The story behind it was the horrific rape and murder of a young woman named Kitty Genovese. But the story doesn't focus on Kitty, or even her murderer, it focuses on her neighbors, who allegedly saw the murder in real time and did nothing. This story stirred an enormous reaction to a phenomenon that was dubbed Urban...

Jun 15, 20221 hr 50 minEp. 115

The Worst Love Story (The Richardson Family Murders)

At 1:00 p.m. on April 23, 2006, 6 year old Garret ran over his neighbors house anticipating an afternoon of playing Star Wars. After knocking on the door several times Garret decided to peek into the window to see where his friend might be, but what he saw sent him running back home as fast as his little legs would carry him. Police were summoned and discovered the bodies of the houses occupants, with the exception of their 12 year old daughter Jasmine. Authorities were terrified that Jasmine ma...

Jun 08, 20222 hr 7 minEp. 114

Beautiful Cigar Girl (Mary Rogers)

The death of Mary Rogers is known to many as America's first murder mystery. Published by Edgar Allen Poe as "The Mystery of Marie Rogêt in 1842, Mary's story became America's introduction to true crime, but for all it's retelling, and the country's brief and feverish fascination with the "beautiful cigar girl" Mary's case still remains technically unsolved. Mary, known as a legendary beauty, unknowingly set a standard the the rest of the country would run with for centuries to come, but her unt...

May 24, 20221 hr 11 minEp. 113

Nightmare Fuel 2.0 (Cursed Objects Part 2)

Our second round of Cursed Objects is international! This time Holly and Leslie both head over the pond to take a look at two objects so spooky, we guarantee you'll be repeating their stories around your next campfire. First Leslie tells us about Old Nick, The Swansea devil.... you're going to want to check out our Instagram for the photos of this one. Holly follows up with the tale of the Thomas Busby Stoop Chair, a chair so cursed with violence that it is currently displayed high on a wall, so...

May 18, 20221 hr 21 minEp. 112

New moon, Who Dis? (30 Minute Twilight: New Moon)

Ok fiends, so many of you enjoyed the first "thirty minute movie" installment of Twilight that we decided to share the next film in the saga with the whole class. In this wild (normally patrons only) series Holly and Leslie summarize a movie in thirty minutes in a frenzied game of hot potato. Here's how it works: the girls set the timer for five minutes and trade back and forth telling the story until 30 minutes has elapsed and hopefully the whole story has been told. During the narration you'll...

May 10, 202248 minEp. 111

Girls Don’t Hitchhike (The Highway Of Tears)

From 1970 until present day 73 women and girls have gone missing or turned up dead on Canada’s highway 16, otherwise known as the highway of tears. A disproportionate number of these women and girls are indigenous. Most of their cases remain unsolved. Most of their faces remain unseen. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police assembled a task force in 2005 in the hopes of solving 18 of these cases. The name of the task force is E-Pana. 18 is not enough. But it’s a start. We could never endeavor to tell...

May 05, 20221 hr 55 minEp. 110

Halfoween 3 (Revenge of the Hosts)

Happy Halfoween fiends! Normally Holly and Leslie take this opportunity to tell stories about their worst fears, but this year they decided to use YOURS! We compiled quite the list from our listeners, and from that list your hosts surfaced 4 tales so terrifying, they're sure to have you sleeping with the lights on. Leslie shares the stories of Cleveland's 1986 Balloonfest disaster, The strange death of of Jose Rey Escobedo, and a creepy crawly story that is too disturbing to summarize, you'll ha...

Apr 27, 20221 hr 34 minEp. 109

Fly on the Wall (The murder of Annie Le)

Annie Le was a brilliant scientist studying for here PHD at Yale University. She had infinite potential and her whole life ahead of her until she disappeared inexplicably, just 5 days before her wedding. A few days later she was found dead in the most terrifying and unbelievable of places. Click to learn more WWBD Merch Buy your WWBD swag here! Join the Conversation...

Apr 20, 20221 hr 25 minEp. 108

Again or Never (The Disappearance of Daniel Robinson)

Daniel Robinson was a bright, ambitious, 24 year old geologist with an extremely promising life ahead of him, so when he disappeared without a trace, leaving everything behind, even the clothes on his back, his family was left with a huge puzzle to solve and one simple request from the public "Please help find Daniel" Shadowed in the missing white girl syndrome wake of Gabby Petito's disappearance Daniel's case just gets more perplexing with every detail that is uncovered. With a story that riva...

Apr 07, 20222 hr 8 minEp. 107

On The Street Where You Live (Megan Kanka / Megan’s Law)

It is estimated that 460,000 children per year go missing in united states, and that one out of every ten thousand of those children is murdered. Nearly 700,000 incidences of child sexual abuse were reported in the united states in 2021, but it is estimated that 80 % of actual incidences go unreported… which means the real number is more like 3.5 million. Lastly, it is estimated that one in four girls and one in nine boys in the United States will fall victim to sexual abuse before they turn 18....

Mar 29, 20221 hr 37 minEp. 106

2nd Annual St. Paddy’s Day Live Campfire Stories! (Irish Two Truths and a Lie, with John Rattacasa))

Recording of our March 17th Live stream campfire stories event! Our friend John Joined us for some Irish fun and a spooky game of two truths and a lie! Play along with us as we weave tales of Irish haunted lore, True Crime and mythological creatures all while enjoying a good Irish Whiskey and the company of our fiends who tuned in live. *This was recorded with no mics, equipment or soundproofing, just a laptop and YouTube live. It's not glitchy or difficult to understand but if you're wondering ...

Mar 24, 20221 hr 51 min

Six Loops and Hellfire (The Legend of Darkey Kelly)

"Today Copper Alley will mourn its best mistress, and wives the town over will breathe a small sigh. Today is a sad day for vandals and misfits, today Darkey Kelly is going to die" Happy St Patrick's Day Fiends! This year we bring you the dark and stormy Legend of Darkey Kelly, A brother owner and murderess who was hanged and burned at the stake (that's right, hanged AND burned at the stake) for sacrificing her baby in a deal with the devil. Dorcas AKA "Darkey" Kelly's story takes us into the br...

Mar 15, 20221 hr 34 minEp. 105

Harsh Mistress (Delphine LaLaurie)

On April 10th 1834 a fire broke out at 1140 Royal Street in the city of New Orleans. The estates mistress, local socialite Delphine Lalaurie was attempting to retrieve her most valuable possession in a hysterical daze. Meanwhile, a crowd had formed to behold the spectacle, and sensing nothing had been done to stop it, they sprang into action. Soon the police and fire department arrived, and what they discovered in that house would go down as one of the most gruesome scenes in US history. The act...

Mar 08, 20221 hr 34 minEp. 104

Jazz It Up (The Axeman of New Orleans)

This week Leslie tells us the tale of the Axeman of New Orleans, who was possibly an American serial killer active in New Orleans, Louisiana, and surrounding communities, including Gretna, from May 1918 to October 1919. However, similar murders occurred as early as 1911 that may hold some connection. He mainly targeted Italian immigrants and Italian-Americans. The Axeman was never identified, and the murders remain unsolved. But one thing is for certain, the Axeman was fond of Jazz Music. Click ...

Mar 01, 20221 hr 21 minEp. 103
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