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WeWatchWrestling Issue #645

Jan 21, 20261 hr 24 min
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Summary

Matt and Vince explore the surprising lack of matches for top WWE stars in 2025, comparing it to past eras, and examine the creative processes within both WWE and AEW. They discuss speculative WrestleMania matchups, the challenges of character development, and react to controversial moments like Darby Allin's dangerous stunts and the departure of an AEW talent. The episode also touches on wrestling legends' health, potential returns, and unique marketing tactics within the industry.

Episode description

This week Matt & Vince talk Wins/Losses in 2025, Bruce Pritchard, Darby Allin and more!!! WWW Shirts: http://prowrestlingtees.com/wewatchwrestling Become a Patron! Bonus audio! Join the Discord! https://www.patreon.com/wewatchwrestling

Transcript

Opening Banter and Height Jokes

Well hello there. To the place that's in your face. It's the We Watch Wrestling Podcast available everywhere. You want to talk about watching wrestling. I'm your wonderful darling, redheaded, bearded host, Wrestling Matt McCarthy. With me, always, uh, Mr. Vince Averill. I'm here. Were you rubbing that scar or John Moxley? No, I did try to hardway myself this morning though. What what'd you do? Being being tall, dude. Sometimes you just turn your head and all of a sudden there's something there.

Did you forget you were tall for a second, dude? Man. It is so weird for me. Everywhere I go, the people I spend the most amount of time with outside of my family It's you and it's Pete Holmes. And when I'm with both of you, I'm like, God damn, I'm a fucking short little guy. No, no, no, no. I don't buy it. I don't buy that. And then I get around to the rest of people and I'm like, oh wait, no, I'm a fucking I'm a fucking stud. I'm a big fucking dude. Big fucker. I'm a big fucking dude.

Moxley, Bret Hart, & Roots of Fight

Maddie, uh I d I don't think you necessarily believe this, but it is something that is off time said. What is it? Disneyland, Disney World's the happiest place on earth, right? Is that what they say? They've said that. Yeah. Yeah. They try to fucking till I saw Renee's uh Instagram today and I saw her dear husband with her w uh and I said not for mocks it's not. Not for mocks it's not. All right. I'm on top of this right now. I think a mock sometimes when George is like, Can you

Let's let's take it again. Can you just smile in the photo, please? And I'm like, you don't need to see Moxley's face, dude. This guy. I mean, you're the you're you're in charge of the Death Riders or whatever, but but come on. At the point that you're on your wife and child's fucking Disney trip, like I don't think it's gonna kill you to at least smirk dude. No man. He's he's uh It looks like he's mad. Doesn't he look mad? He looks furious. Wait

He just got fucking demolished by uh the Don Callis family. Wha what's he He he probably doesn't even know he's at Disneyland. He got his fucking bean rattled. Meanwhile, Renee's like, I saw they have a secret. Slushy over here and they're offering a I'm looking at what is this Bret Hart coat that she has? I think Casey needs this. I'm just gonna guess without seeing it, roots of the fight.

What's Roots of the Fight? What's that? A band? Um, it's like a Canadian company that's How is that not a hardcore band from like nineteen eighty seven? Could be, but... They've done all kinds of they I mean they have boxing stuff but they have wrestling stuff and and so you know there's I have a I have like a Rey Mysterio shirt from there, I have an Andre shirt from there, but they've done a bunch of Brett stuff, they've done a bunch of CM Punk stuff.

And on and on. Yeah, I was their uh I was at their f I was at their third show, Roots of the Fight, Judge, uh open for them. And uh Ian Mackay actually No way, no way, dude. You're not in mind was at the bar. No way, no way. He drinking Coffee. You better forget it, dude. And I went up to him and I said, Whoa, my friend said that coffee isn't straight edge. And he said you can tell your friend I said to fuck off.

Natty's Punches & Teddy Hart's Return

Speaking of the hitman. Yeah, what's up with Brett? Is he on tour? Is he on a d like when are we we need to drop everything and go to every speaking engagement he has booked up? Where where are these Where are these listed? You're not doing'em. We don't got none on the books right now. We would know. But I wonder what he thinks, you know, after he's Taking the opportunity to

Shit on other people's punches. Uh what what do you think he thinks about Natty's punches? Uh did you see any of those punches that Natty threw last night in her big heel turn? No, who'd she who'd she beat up? Uh Maxine? Yep. She turned on old Maxine and got jumped on top, and I said, that's not how anybody throws a punch. Terrible. This is uh this is a different thing when you're She was hitting her with the side of her Yeah, she was like punching her like that. Yeah. That's insane.

Like Oh no no no raw homework this week. I was very like put the thumb inside of the hand and you're, you know, on the playground in third grade or something. It was it was a bit odd, but um at the risk of getting in trouble with Casey Corbin, which I never want to do. I'm just pointing out what I saw. What, is he a Natty apologist? No, no. I mean he he loves Natty. He loves the entire Hart family. Well, we all love the entire Hart family. She's She's she's wonderful. She's wonderfully talented.

Now now remind me, is is Teddy Hart in the Hart family? Um He's somebody's kid. I did see that he just reappeared for the first time in a while. He is, isn't he?'Cause he was part of that like group, right wait, whoa, I'm sorry. I completely what? He reappeared. Yeah, I just saw that he was I saw him in a wrestling ring bald and a bit fat, but he was still, of course, terrorizing a cat. Unbelievable. No, it's his name is Edward Ellsworth Anis and Um Okay. So he is he's uh Brett's nephew.

Georgia Hart is his mom. Really? Oh I mean that kid's all kind of fucked up. And I I said to Stu, it's worse now than have uh Do they still have the um Is Teddy Hart in jail Twitter going? I'd like to think so. Let's see. Is Teddy Hart in jail? He's not in jail. He just worked him out. Well, I guess he could be. I don't want the boys being wrestlers and I don't want the girls marrying wrestlers. And they all married wrestlers and became wrestlers. I said

So how much longer are we gonna be in this business? Tough shit. Uh up up Oh So he was in prison in twenty twenty three. So when did he get out? Uh somewhere between that that T V show you had and now or something. Uh Let's see. Wait, he trained Jack Evans? Oh yeah, I guess he did he trained a bunch of people, didn't he? Hmm.

You trained a per he Hey man. He's so good he could train a Persian cat to wrestle. True or false, Vince Averell. No. He could drug a tr a Persian cat to do whatever the fuck he wanted. Let's see. Here's a photo. Those are those are heavyweight accusations, Vincent. The thing that was originally sent to me says, I absolutely did not have Teddy Heart returns, but now fat and bald on my twenty twenty six bingo card now. This person I would not describe them as fat Or bald.

Uh that that was clickbait. You got clickbaited. Yeah, well but he has it the the fact remains he's there. He is there and he is got a cat on the fucking turnbuckle. What is that? It looks like it's in a wrestling school. Just based on how close the wall is and how much shit is on the wall. Oh okay. Yeah, you zoom out, I see. I was trying to zoom in on how horrified the cat appears to Oh, well that's gone. All right. Anyway, um good for him and good for everybody else and um

That's what's up. No, the How come we didn't look into buying this uh 2012 Honda Cord he was selling a couple years back? Completely got past me. This is this is this is please listen to this. This is what he wrote in 2024. Two thousand twelve Honda Cord for sale for twenty five hundred dollars. Condition no problems at all. Just need some space. I had bought a new car and I'm not saving this car for my child anymore.

Why wouldn't you mention that? Well but hold on, need some space? Like you're breaking up with the car? He needs some space. I guess the car's taking up too much space or it's not the car's fault. I just need some space. Down payment down payment is accepted to hold on the car. Is that you fucking this car? Is that what what is that what I'm doing? Dev he needs space from the car.

The car will not be holed for anyone without any down payment. Lots of families are also texting I love this move. Yeah. Lot of people are asking about this car. Dude, it's so funny. After I Um bitched a little bit about our experience at Survivor Series uh to on location.

WrestleMania Ticket Sales Tactics

I keep getting emails from people over there unrelated, but they're like, Hey, we noticed you didn't buy a WrestleMania package. Russ these packages are flying. If you want to get one and I'm like Uh first of all, they aren't flying. No. We know that, and we've seen that, and you've been running sales, and it's like So the so bullshit. I I stopped short today. I'm I'm trying to do less of this.

I stopped short of r replying to the person today after the third email and going like if they were flying, you wouldn't have emailed me three times. I was just like, you don't have to say anything to this person. Just move on with your life. Just do other stuff, you know? But it is fun. Uh it can be. It can be. There there is a satisfaction you hit that send and you're like, I feel good for a few seconds. Like yeah, I d I don't need to.

I just have had another instance recently where Tell me about it, Vince. I wanna know. It doesn't need to happen right now. But um Yes. So uh The move of saying that something is flying when you're like, then why Who how did it get to me? Then just yeah, then just sell it to them. How did it get all the way back to me? Out of the goodness of your heart, you're like, you know what, a lot of people have express entrance, but I want to make sure that Vince knows.

Yeah. Let's just let's just see make sure that Vince has a chance. So he I don't want Vince to get cut out of this at all. It it would be wrong if Vince didn't have an opportunity Because that's that's what we're all about here. Making opportunities. I don't give guarantees, I only give opportunities. Uh one guy has a contract though, but everybody else it's just opportunities. That's I think that is there a We make movies. Is there a Saturday night's main event this weekend?

Wrestling Media & WWE Lawsuit

That'd be amazing. I mean, I'm working this weekend, but this weekend? This weekend is the twenty fourth. Oh yeah, there is. Holy shit. I'm gonna click on one of my least favorite websites, Forbes.com, which for whatever reason, how many, how many people Uh uh here's what I was gonna ask. How many people do you think work at Forbes that are dedicated just to covering wrestling?

Hmm. And as and as I started asking the question, I realized the answer is probably none. Oh really? Because because I'm not saying people don't write about wrestling. I'm saying Nobody only covers wrestling. You know, it's it's you have to like you work at Forbes, you do eight different you you have eight different jobs.

That eight different people used to do ten or twenty years ago. Right? All right. Well, I can tell you right now. So I just clicked on the same thing on Forbes. Okay. Brian Ma Mazik. I click on his name. Yeah. And it says he his most recent thing fifteen hours ago. Uh Gravanta Davis gets bad news after arrest warrant issued. Not sure who that is. Oh, that's a boxer.

Then there's the WWE WD. So maybe he's like their combat sports guy? Right. UFC boxing W. Yeah. So this this guy at least is one person who is dedicated to uh writing combat sports shit for them. He's written for Ring Magazine, Bleacher Report. Athlon sports, whatever that is. And has several, multiple YouTube channels. Good on you. Well that that's great. It's also you know, Saturday is only one week from the uh

uh Royal Rumble. So we got centers main event on Saturday and then the Rumble is the following Saturday. It's all premium, dude. It's all premium. It's all live. And what? What time do we think the Royal Rumble starts? Like ten AM? Oh, it's gotta be early like that, I think. Yeah. It's definitely a morning thing. I wonder, um uh what was I gonna say? Oh, uh I I brain. I'm sorry. Here I go. Did you see that there's like a class action against I think it's just against WWE.

But there's some people who are saying that they Maybe it's just ESPN. It's one or the other. Mm-hmm. Saying that when they first moved WWE stuff over to ESPN, the the pay per views, that they didn't make it clear. That you would have to I don't know if you you you have to pay more or that s there's something. Let me let me look it up. Can we get in on this? W W E P L E. Is this another instance where it's like like a group of

For whatever reason, th the the details of it always fascinated me. It was a group of firefighters who, like, pulled their money to invest. Yeah. Who had invested in WWE. They were the ones who Sued. When here we go. Yeah. Right. Right,'cause they're like we're we're we have money invested as company and it's like, yeah, it's they're fucking around. Yeah. Um new WWE is facing a new class action lawsuit alleging deceptive marketing over its move.

To ESPN claiming fans with existing ESPN subscriptions were misled into paying extra for ESPN plus to watch them despite marketing suggesting otherwise. Yeah,'cause I had ESPN plus and you can fucking piss in a hole, dude. ESPN plus ain't what you need. It's ESPN whatever the fucking the next level up or whatever it was, you know. But anyway. Well, if only these people had um had observer subscriptions and listened to Dave

Try and explain this to Brian on the radio show to little to no success. Yes. I did just see that it looks like this Mania weekend they're not doing just a straight QA, they're gonna do a live podcast with a little bit of a QA.

Well, you know, those Q and A's, um, as fun as they are to attend, it's um maybe be different now, but like for the longest time it was just um you know a con consistent you know, barrage of just what do you what do you think WWE could do to, you know, change uh change change creative and like, you know, be better?

2025 WWE Match Stats Analysis

Uh speaking of the observer, there's a lot of good stuff in this week's issue, but not the least of which was this dude who compiled, I think he's done it before. He compiled the records of all um All WWE wrestlers in twenty twenty five. Mm-hmm. So we've got total wins, total losses, total matches.

Clean wins, clean losses, right? Okay. And so this fucking thing, it kind of blew my mind, even though I guess I should have realized how few matches people are having. That's crazy. I like I love this. Drew McIntyre, for instance, had twenty seven fucking matches all year. Like I'm just looking at the guys who are on TV all the time. You know, there's some there are some anomalies. Braun Breaker had forty five. Um, I think Los Angeles Knight.

had um the most matches of anybody. Let's see. Really? He had how many matches do you think LA Knight had? Now that you know that Braun had forty five. Now that I know those two statistics If if Los Angeles Knight had the most matches, I'm gonna say 60. 64. Wow. And you know the funny thing is I went through this and just to kind of be like, you know, since it says clean wins and clean losses, I would say most everybody that I looked at

Um had ten fucked finishes. So like with LA Knight, right? He had sixty four matches. He had thirty-three clean wins, twenty-one clean losses. fifty four. So we had ten fucked finishes, right? So that and that's kind of the sort of That's what everybody like in that ballpark. Like Punk had thirty seven matches. I can't even believe he had that many. He had thirty one clean, so a little bit Uh a little bit less for him. And Cody? Cody Rhodes.

had thirty five and had thirty clean between wins and losses. So I guess like there are still house shows happening, right? Not really. They had a holiday tour. But I don't think and I don't know if they even had any house shows on this. Um, because it it also s shows, right? Like So so this year LA Knight has the most was sixty four. Going back even

to uh twenty twenty four, Rhodes had a hundred and six matches in twenty twenty four. Like once they got rid of house shows, you know, Rhodes had the most in twenty twenty three, a hundred and eleven. Um In the COVID year, Drew McIntyre had a hundred. You know? And then you got then you got fucking old timey like Greg Valentine had two hundred and thirty five in eighty five. Oh, I of course. Yeah. I mean Jesus Christ. That's like the fact that LA Knight had sixty four matches

In a year. But like the Greg Valentine had that many in in November, you know? Yeah. But you know who does have fucking house shows? It must be the fucking people in NXT because there's just like Someone named Zarya who had 50 matches. Uh huh. Uh fucking. There were just a few names in here who I was like.

Channing Lorenzo had thirty-five matches. Anthony Luke had thirty seven. Like I don't I mean I'm just Well they do, yeah. Cause when when Pete and I were in um I don't even know what fucking city when but when we met uh Tyler Bate It was like there was a pay-per-view in a different city and NXT was doing a live event in whatever town we were in. I think we were in um God, I can picture the club. Were we in Denver? I don't know where the fuck we were. Yeah.

You know it's funny to me too, just thinking back of how the the world title well I guess the rock is an example. I because I was looking here and I'm like, there ain't one year that Austin had the most matches, even though you know he had the fucking belt. Rock and Rock and 98 did have the most, 200. Um But uh yeah man, this is this is a very interesting little fucking set of stats. How many so and i i Cody had how much you said?

How many matches total? I'm I'm curious on how many unclean wins or unclean finishes were in Cody matches. Five. He had thirty five matches. Uh twenty-five or clean wins, five or clean losses, so that leaves five left for for a fuck finish.

Match Counts and Roster Depth

Um so LA Knight sixty four, does that mean he's wrestling on like every TV show? Like every time there's a a television show, he's got a mess. I saw a a thing that did not have audio with it'cause the the new um uh the new season of their like behind the scenes show happened. Oh, the the writer's room thing? Yeah. And so this is this is the face. This is the face from but he's sitting next to Triple H in Gorilla. Uh and right before this, Triple H is like talking to him.

And so whoever like did the thing over was like, so here's what we're gonna have you do. We're gonna have you lose this, we're gonna then we're gonna have you go over to lose that. We're gonna like just like yeah. Then we're gonna have these guy the the the vision's gonna beat the shit out of you. Then we're gonna yeah, and it's just like okay, bud, like he is Uh man. Bummer, dude. Oh, so we also have I just can't believe it. Within this is most so LA had LA night most matches.

Most wins. Stephanie Stephanie Vacaire with forty four. And most losses, Roxanne Perez with thirty-seven. Oh my god. That is so fucking that what why she lost thirty-seven matches? Yeah, let's see how many she had. She may have lost every match she was in.

Roxanne Perez had fifty nine matches. You know what's you know what's funny though? It says th did I just say thirty seven? Yeah. It says thirty six up here. Or that was clean. Okay, yeah. So I guess only one of those one of the only one of her losses was Um but her her win some of her wins were a bit messed up, but yeah, there you have it. Thirty seven in a row? She had 37 matches. No, I... That's... That was... Matty! Fuck with me.

Hey, Roxy, heard you're the biggest loser in the entire Fed. Sorry about your bad damn luck. So who had I d now are there people on this list with zero matches? Names that we know? No, I think that there's no one here with zero. So I think if it's zero, like Kevin Owens does not appear. So I I assume if you didn't have a match, then you're just not. You know? Like is there anybody else who's been hurt all year? Like, yeah, there's no I mean where wh where's Randy? You know, or where's Randy?

Randy Orton is uh he had sixteen. That is fucking ridiculous. All of all of his were clean. Ten clean wins and six clean losses. I gotta go over clean. You telling me this guy can beat me clean, but I can't use my pun kick? Yeah, boy. I swear to God, man. T like, you know, they talk about the the

The shittification of everything. Yeah. Fucking LA Knight had the most wrestling matches in WWE with sixty four matches. That's a and uh it's this is why people don't improve. I mean, they talk about it all the time. There's the the lack of How many matches did Maxine Dupree have? I'm fascinated by this. Yeah, I think um Or Otis. Did Otis have Yeah, Otis, let's see. Dupree

And then I am curious who is like last on the list. Is there somebody with Maxine had 25 matches? It's incredible. Otis. Otis. Otis had fourteen. Un fucking real. And he still ha this is why he he can't be grilling steaks in the driveway anymore. He's he's got no I mean he was hurt. For a period of time. I think he was gone for a little while. Mm. But that used to not be an excuse. But I mean, even Dexter Loomis had seventeen.

So who has the least? Who's who's the bottom five? Uh let's see here. The least matches because they don't they don't show that number. So let's let me just go here. Couple people with ten. Let's see if we can beat that. There's got to be somebody in the single digits. That we've that we've heard of. Not on here. So the the so the lowest number I can find is 10, and that would be um Gigi Dolan, Ilya Dragonov, Lee Laurel, Trill London Jax Presley and Eddie Thorpe.

And that's yeah. So and Gigi Dolan left. Yeah, shouldn't even have a job. Oh, and I guess Eddie Thorpe did too, because he's somewhere else. Because Eddie Thorpe is what they renamed the guy who was in that group of young boys with um um You know. Right. Yes, yes, yes. I can't remember a single Chad the War Dogs. The war Yeah, like kind of, right? Anyway.

Vikingo's Neck Kicks & WrestleMania Booking

Unbelievable. I can't even fucking believe it. Yeah. What about um How about it? Did you oh I did think it was kind of so there was a It was kinda like a triple A television show. It wasn't really like a special event it didn't feel like, but it was, you know, one of those ones that is on their YouTube and is on Fox in Mexico or whatever. Mm-hmm. But uh Grande Americano was in in a match with Fakingo. That was on Saturday, I want to say.

And then that poor motherfucker had to report to Belfast for fucking T V on Monday. But there also was a clip of the match with him and uh Vikingo, uh-huh, where he's like in the corner and then he goes he like you hear him say to the ref like tell him to fucking take it easy on my neck. And then Vikingo immediately kicks him in the neck. Ha ha ha. Trying to get a message delivered from the ref.

See the pro we we got a problem. What what we've got here is failure to communicate. Tell'em to go take it easy on my fucking neck. That is hilarious. Vikingo. Vikingo, you're gonna kill the golden goose. Mm mm. You think he'd pull that shit if he was in the ring with Randy? Hmm. Not for very long, my friend. Not for very long. No, you hurt Randy? I guess um Best of luck at Tony's company. The uh the switch to McIntyre is Triple H thinking that Rhodes reigns at Mania's.

It's it's uh it's passe. So we gotta go another direction. So that's why that changed. Oh, we've seen it twice, but you know, ain't nothing wrong with the a third match if that's that's what's what. But after no, this this year's been too flat. Yeah. Ha ha a flat year, hardly any movement and any storylines, and then you go back, you repeat a main event again? No way. So

I wonder if it ends up being Cody and Drew, which also feels like it's happened. No, it's it's it's totally flat. They need to do Cody and Punk. That's the only interesting match I think with top guys. Sounds like it's not happening though. Sounds like it's gonna either be A three way between Cody, Drew, and Fatu.

Like that's what it should be. It should be Fa two one on one with whoever the fuck. Drew and Fa two, that's one. Drew and Fatou. Let it be Drew and Headline Night Two. Drew Fatou. Headline Night Two. Cause Punk is gonna have his match with whoever. Right. Uh, probably Braun or whatever again. Who knows? But uh I think, yeah, just take Cody and Let him, you know, Because the other thing I wonder about old codes are

You know, he did so well when people started to boo him in AEW and he didn't want it. And now that's starting to happen a little bit over here. So Time to leave the territory, I guess. Is he gonna uh is he gonna be able to handle it? Or is he gonna

AEW Booking Philosophy & Creative Challenges

Well, I mean, if if Paul was ready to to turn him heel fucking last year. Might as well just turn him heel on uh now, you know. I mean Yeah. But but again, it's just like then you're in the situation it's like, Well, who's your top baby face? Roman? I mean he he works how many matches did Roman have? Six? You know, I mean come on. I think it's I think it should be Drew and Fattu. Pumpkin breaker. Cody versus Hobbs, a person from his past.

So the hot new guy that just came in, make like take debut him and fucking turn it up and let's see. And let let fucking Cody'cause Cody can get a match on anybody, I'm sure. Then you fucking um get a match out of a blow up doll. Then Roman uh he can wrestle uh I don't fucking know. I mean I'm sure I'm sure uh Roman Randy. Roman Randy, that's cool. Uh I I we're gonna end up with some fucking um

Brock. Somewhere. Oh, yeah, fucking Brock. Forgot about that fucking piss head. Uh Do they I don't know which one is Hobbes and which one is Shaw, but do they do an interaction with Hobbes and Dwayne Johnson? Perhaps. Uh we'll see. I have no faith. I have no faith in uh the E doing anything with powerhouse Hobbs, but uh I hope he makes a lot of money. No, I mean that's the other thing about this like

uh uh a behind the scenes show, undetermined, undec what undeclared, whatever the fuck it's called. Undecided, that's what it's uh w like one is Bruce Pritcher pitching back at uh backlash or s uh somewhere that uh that Pat McAfee beat Gunter

And then there's another uh clip from the room that I've seen so far that's uh Road dog going, well, maybe we should just put it back on um Chelsea and have that moment, whatever, and then Triple H being like, well, uh my question has to be then who's she gonna work with? 'Cause it can't be this person, this person, this person again. I'm like, really? I can't.

That's that is a hundred percent that that's what you just described is the most accurate description of my experience being in the room where you're just like You know, well, can we turn so and so? And then somebody picks up the roster sheet just to be like, I don't know, are we leaving any money on the table? Have they worked with everybody? Gonna flip them, open up a bunch of'cause I remember there was such a discussion around like I think Christian was hurt.

And we were waiting for Christian to come back and it was just like We couldn't come up with any fucking fresh matches and we're just like, Jesus Christ, if Christian would just come back'cause it's'cause it is it'cause it's that thing of You you have to oh, th they gotta have star power.

You gotta be in there with the right guy, you know, because you know, Roman's in there with f you he can't be in there with some J-Bron. Because that's the thing. Even if Hobbes comes in hot, it's like, yeah, he didn't earn that mania match yet, though. It d it doesn't bring him up, it brings Cody down. To me it just reeks of you know The revenue streams are like this this is kind of a

a side hustle. You know, it's like booking matches. Yeah. It's like you know, the ticket ticket prices are such, you know, we want to be able to say we sold out, but we didn't, we're still fine. And uh and really the the gates aren't even the the where the fucking biggest piece of the pie is from. That's gonna be this. So as long as we put Snickers on it, you know what I mean? So it's just like Yeah, but let's not fucking kill ourselves here. You know, like this part is

Yeah, you know, we want we want people to watch Netflix. We'll we'll we'll we'll run somebody out once in a while. We'll do what we need to do. Let's not k let's not kill ourselves here. You know? Kosky, take a nap. You know?

The Undertaker's Legacy & Pritchard

Probably. Probably. I mean fucking Pritchard cracks me up though. I I've I've I've I never worked with him and I never heard one good thing about him. Who? Pritchard. Oh Pritchard, yeah. Did you see that clip of him on um uh The I don't do they have a is it like Do they have a cute name for the show since it's the husband and wife together? No.

I think it was because you y you know what happened was so Undertaker was doing that show independently with a guy who helped him start it and was his friend. Okay. And then it was like, uh, we need to uh take a break for a minute. And then Undertaker's like, Hey buddy I'm uh I'm taking this shit to the E and uh I'm bringing my old lady, so peace. What a piece of shit. Um

Yeah, so now that we figured this thing out, yeah, the the dead man and missus or some shit. Um but what you saw the clip? Which clip? Well, Pritchard being against ending the streak. I hated it. I was against it. No. Fortunately the only clip I've seen is them talking about leaving out of some building. And getting lost in the wrong part of town and pulling up in front of a liquor store. And and apparently Undertaker's already kind of reclined.

So it's just Pritchard who doesn't even have all of his fucking red makeup off. Oh, this is way back. And he's like, This dude is walking toward me. And he's like, he's putting his hand into his like jacket. Uh-huh. And all of a sudden Undertaker just sits up and looks at him. And the guy starts like backing up like hey hey hey and then uh he goes, Yeah, y you guys gotta get out of here, man. You know, like just gave him the instructions to get the fuck out.

Fucking ridiculous. How long did he how long I'm sure they they cover it, but how long did he actually manage Oh The Undertaker? Undertaker. Yeah. Cause if you my memory is When when Ted DiBiase announced the his surprise partner, one of the surprise team members at the Survivor Series. Yeah. And even as a kid who was scared to death of The Undertaker was so scared to death I couldn't watch wrestling for a couple months. It was insane. Right. Um

With his manager, Brother Love. And I'm like, okay. So we're I was like, this these two make no sense together, but the fact that he's with Brother Love, I'm like, I understand. They want me to not like him. Right. You know? And then eventually Brother Love handed him off to Paul Bear.

It's funny too because it's like especially at that time, it's like what we were gonna think he was a friendly ghost. Like of course there's nothing about him like that's you know what I mean? Right. Unless uh you're like, Oh, this guy's cool. Which uh apparently m you know, I mean if we were our age now, what like in the crowd then we'd be like, Oh, this is fucking awesome. Oh man, they made mean Mark into a dead guy. Yeah. You know. Right.

I guess I guess I mean like when when he fucking beat Hogan, I mean there were you know grown men, dudes in the crowd who were like, Fuck yeah. So I don't know. I mean I have that one tape I found. Um I mean like not like I found like with the the VHS tapes I do. Um Where did I get this tape from? I don't think this was a Bill Ali or a WrestleTapes.net. Maybe it was a wrestling. I feel like Bill Ali was all DVD. I don't think he had it. Bill Ali was all DVD.

Bil Ali, all D V D. You're gonna have to chase him. But if you get it, when you eventually get it, it will be cool. Oh man, when it finally arrives, it's a great day. You had to bitch at his ass and keep on him, but like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's it's it's uh I was getting ready to ship it. Look, and and in all fairness, no small undertaking, our two dumbasses paying this guy hundreds of dollars to make how many hundreds of D V D I mean I have I c I don't even know what the total

Like I th the Terry Funk DVDs alone, there was like thirty or forty, you know. We were amassing the fucking uh WWE network before it was amassed from this guy. Right. And still it's like and it's still better because of the music stuff.

Oh, the music comes sometimes you get a commercial. Yeah. You know, there's all kinds of cool shit going on. There is once in a while I'll throw on not usually the Saturday night's main event. Those are all very clean. Actually I don't think I got those from him. I think I got those from WrestleTapes. But once in a while, like the superstars of wrestling, I'm like, oh man, this is a terrible and it's not e it's got nothing to do with the DVD. It's just

Whoever recorded it originally did a bad job and it's and it's a bad bad tape. But at any rate. I have a tape somewhere of um like a dude snuck a camcorder into house shows and it is like early nineties WWF Uh you know, just just house shows. But like him and his buddies are I'm like, Oh, these guys are the worst. They're just shouting like Hey, where's a Kira Maida? You know, that type of shit. And you're just like, oh my God, guys, shut the fuck up.

Like Adam Bomb is in the ring and they're just like Hey, we want to see Mitsuharu Musawa. Damn. Bellers Really. Oh man, do you guys subscribe to the torch or something, dude? Yeah. Well yeah, but but Pritchard just being like, I hated it. I was against it. Oh god.

Wrestling Collectibles & Injury Updates

Vince, for those of you listening at home, Vince is now showing the, in my mind, most infamous Instagram post of the year, if not the decade. Hiroshi Tanahashi getting his hair cut. Getting a normy cut. He's just a normal regular dude. It's very dull. It's very boring. You know uh what's kind of wild is um It ends there uh they started making L J N big rubber guys again. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. But I've never seen one in person yet. And today at Target I finally saw a Hulk Hogan.

It's just the it's the exact same. Like they just they had the mold or whatever. It's the it is really it is the exact same mold. one from our childhood. Yeah. Is the package the same? All that? Mm-hmm. Package, poster. Wow. All that is the same. But I mean I I was like just shocked at the that the figure, the doll, whatever is exactly the same.

I wanted to get a Cena but I just couldn't find one anywhere and I'm not paying like aftermarket, you know. And then the local I mean it's probably it was probably there, you just couldn't see it. Logan Paul, of course, uh his figure's readily available and then you got the Dusty and Punk. Oddly enough, uh CM Punk did something that I kind of thought was halfway decent. A uh

He posted this thing. I don't know if it was what what it it must have been Logan Paul and the ring or whatever, and it just said Logan Paul can't Can't go to Japan. Logan Paul is not allowed in Japan. Like I don't know what's going on here, but I like it. Okay. Well, according to Logan Paul, he can go. He just has he chooses not to until he's invited back by I guess I don't know, Japan. Amen. Don't hold your breath. Um you know, yeah.

Um Morndorf or No Jake. Ah. You saw him get knocked the fuck out, right? And his jaw broken, yes. Beautiful thing. He had uh I think four titanium plates put in. Ooh. Okay. Because uh this is the the beauty of TikTok. Somebody was like, my Best friend does uh like weaves and beards for, you know, A-list celebrities. She's like, that's what he has on right now. He has a fake beard sewn on, covering up these sewn on?

Well I don't know what I don't they sew it on, they they clip it on, I don't fucking know. Chip clip? Yeah, it's just uh just a Doritos chip clip, just a Frito leg. Well, maybe we're maybe we're happy for it since it his face probably looks pretty fucking Jammed up right now. I can't even imagine what it fucking looks like. You gotta chop that thing up. I mean the the picture of him after when it was like

Looked like he like he had a fucking watermelon coming out of his face. You know, it's just a beautiful thing. And that other fucking dipshit got fucking knocked out too on that show. I mean, what a what a what a beautiful fucking pay per view to not pay for and just watch the clips later. Just the just the goods parts. Ah, just just a ha hot. Um you know the um

AEW's Promos & Repetition Issues

Like what's what do you do you know what Thecla's uh crew is called in AEW? Uh the the circle of madness? Triangle of madness. Um Wait a minute. Isn't that a movie? Triangle of S That's the Triangle of Sadness. I know. Um I know. Which I did like that movie. It was quite long, but it was good. I believe it won the Palme d'Or. Uh anyway What about them? Julia and Sky Blue. I'm I just there's something that I that it does not it I'm not buying it.

Well they're not very good wrestlers. Well no I'm I'm talking about like i in the promos. They're not very good promos. When they're talking it yeah, it just like Thekla to me is is legit. Yes. And then there's these it's almost like it's not exactly, but it's kinda like the old Ruby riot where you're just like Yeah. The Saint Community Theater. But not to go negative. Uh no, no. I mean I I they it's and it's strange too because Julia and um uh what's her nuts

We just said her name and I I blanked now. Sky Blue? Thank you. Um They have charisma, you know, they have good looks, but it's like I think it is just, you know, the the The downfall of modern wrestling. There's just there's not enough reps. There's not enough um'cause and that goes for promos too.

You know, working matches, making towns, but also like you gotta cut promos every night or you gotta cut promos for the for the local market. Yeah. There's none of that. Um and it's it's it's it's just it's just a matter of repetition. Yeah. I mean I like Sky Blue better doing the you know I don't know what they're supposed to be. They're evil I guess. You know. But uh it's better than my gimmick is I

What, I have my hat on backwards? Well that's Nikki Belly's gimmick, you know. That's we we already got one of those, you know. What's your gimmick? I've got my hat on backwards. Uh maybe you didn't notice I have a hat. I was against it. I thought the streak should have gone on forever. I hated it. Bruce. Oh Brucey. Uncle Bruce. I mean, that is like in a in a in a business full of carnies and liars and people full of shit.

It's like I could see him in the room with Vince like it's fucking brilliant. Yeah. Of course it's gotta be bra. Yeah, of course it should be Brock. I well, I just hope that season two features as incredible a scene as when he fucking made fucking power and fucking

doubt every decision he ever made in his life. That's that's what that fucking place is. It's just it's nothing but heat. I love that it Vince is gone and it's still the bully factory. It's the play doh bully factory where it's just like Oh, that's the decision you decided to make. Okay. Yeah. Well yeah, no, yeah, you well, we could do that. I guess I just... Oh. You know, uh Yeah. Oh I guess I just yeah, oh.

What about Bandito and MJF? I mean, did you Killer Batch? Maximum Carnage was Maximum Delish, dude. I loved it. Wholesale head change for Maxwell Jacob Friedman. He said I'm not worried about the hairline so much as you can just change my whole head out if you want. And boy did they ever. Yeah, he looks strange. He looks strange. Him an old Bandito. Banditor did great. Maxwell did great. Um I'm I uh like we mentioned it up top, but I am I am loving Death Riders and uh uh

Don Callis family. That's a good little feud. That could end up being feud of the year. We don't know. We're not sure yet. Well, I mean it would be advantageous if Moxley had a few more friends, and now that it does feel they are at least, you know. They're anti heroes. I mean if if if you do want to Good guys versus bad guys being definitely passe.

AEW is the place where there is room for, you know, the third category of the wrestler where it's like I I g look uh like the Japanese uh women's companies do this very well, where it's like There's the groups that are total baby faces, then there's the groups who are total heels, and then there's like the other groups who are like Mostly baby phases, but kinda heels, and then mostly heels, but kind of baby phases, you know?

Um and that's exactly what the Death Riders is. And then and then after Ortiz and Eddie or maybe Eddie wasn't in on it, but Ortiz cheated to win that match. They're already halfway friends with Mox. You know, Eddie's, you know, practically, you know, brothers with Mox. So now that they're not diametrically opposed because of the booking philosophies. Bring them in if you need'cause i i if if they do wind up in a, you know, blood and guts or

Or what have you, you know, a stadium stampede or what what's the other one where they fight around the whole building? Blood and guts? No. Um No Blood and Guts is the the war game. Anarchy in the arena. Thank you. Bring in Eddie and Ortiz for that. Sure. What? Are you open for that at Revolution? Is that what you're open for? Um you want to get blood sprayed on you again? No, I don't want anybody to to casually spit or spray blood on me or to whip their hair around. What we know for sure is

Being upset about being at Disney with your wife and daughters only gonna get you heat with the Shrek man. The Shrek man ain't gonna be no baby facing on that. Shrek didn't like that? Shrek he loves Disney. Oh what's he one of these Disney adults? And much like When uh

Uh, you tried to show Jackie Boy Anhelico the other day. When he faced off against Andrada, he didn't get an entrance again either. No. How are we supposed to know w what Anhelico has to offer if he's not able to dance down to the ring in his hat? It felt like I mean that match uh I don't know, man. Andrade He doesn't do anything for me. And it's just it's it and it just more uh it's uh e'cause it's just never been a clean presentation of that dude.

At any point. You know, may maybe the NXT run and the the the the feud with like Johnny Gargano was the best I ever saw him. But like even then it was just He worked under a mask, obviously he's he's a luchador. And then Triple H is like, Why would you cover up a great looking guy like this with a mask? So then there was that odd thing of like, Well, he doesn't he's now he's It's like, well, now you're wrestling for the first time.

Now you're you know, you you you've never performed as this guy with with his face showing right before. So you're starting from zero very, very, you know. Yeah. And then there's the you know, you hear, Oh, he didn't like this, he didn't like that. There's all the odd like, you know, marrying Charlotte Ric Flair is always A factor of weirdness. Leave, say W. It was again it was like, Okay, it's it's one of these

You know, Rusev, Miro, all right. They were holding me back. Now I'm gonna shine. Now I'm gonna complain. Now uh just from what you read, what you hear.

Then he leaves, then he comes back. I mean it's just this this odd thing of And then and then made all the it's just it's just always something with him that just kinda gets in the way of like, yeah, I mean I I can see people who are great at wrestling every every I and Helico's fucking great at wrestling, but it's like You know, am I do I get to see him in a featured

spot. And then even uh like made all the more bizarre when he comes back again uh And Drati comes back again and then all of a sudden it's like oh no, actually you're you're not allowed to wrestle for ninety more days or something. It's just this constant Yeah. Weirdness. But even that match it felt weird. It was like it just felt like

I don't know. I d does Andrade always feel like he's kind of in his head to you or is or am I just projecting that onto him? Because like that match in particular it felt like Serpentico was Like shouting in stuff and Helico kept covering his mouth like like, you know And Dradi's about to do something and then he turns and then he's like starts walking away, dude, like the

I also I don't I don't like it it has nothing to do with him. It's any match where the guy can get the the three count and then pulls the guy up at two. I don't think that that It's it's such illogical heat to me. Yeah. The only thing worse is when a guy could leave the cage.

And win, but then decides he doesn't want to, he wants to go back in and keep kicking the guy's ass. It's like, no, just go outside, win the match, and then go back in and keep kicking his ass. I don't know what Yeah. Or you know, or you you know, a guy Burns your house down, XYZ, and then and then the match starts with a collar and elbow tie up. But guy burns your childhood house down and then you jump in and say, Hey, I would take a bullet for you, man.

The Rascalz Controversy & Japan Orders

I'm not saying specifically, but and then at least the rascals have come to AEW, but come on, you love the rascals. That's the that's the Hitler dude, right? Who showed up? Yeah, but he ain't the one that got fired already. It's a different guy. One of them got fired already? One of yeah. The the three of them debuted and then the one guy's already gone and it sounds like I mean, if you're to believe uh it wasn't Tony. It wasn't it wa so maybe Warner Brothers, maybe they found an old

Twe I don't know. So like someone up top was like that one's not here. So uh Th I think it's um w it's it I don't know all their names, right? It's it's Trey Miguel, right? I think that's the guy who I think that's is the guy who's gone. 'Cause there's the one dude who's seems seems like he had the job at in WWE for the longest. Trey Miguel? No, no, no. Who's the who's the the guy who always stands in the middle?

Oh, um Carson Wentz or not, that's a that's a four that's a football player. Wentz, uh something Wentz, right? I mean now I gotta look them up. And then I think Myron Reed is is the third guy, right? What's the name of that group again? I just Googled the Radicals. Oh, The Rascals. Okay. I just Googled the Radicals, which was Eddie Benoit. A little different. A little different.

Rascals. I can't believe one of them is already that is so fucking funny, dude. That is so fucking funny. Trey Miguel announces break from wrestling. Yeah, I've made a lot of mistakes in my time. I've always apologized and did my best to put a better foot forward after. I don't preach hate and I don't take any pride in being hateful. I'm a man of faith. I believe in forgiveness and only ever preach that. I'm a different man today.

But we don't know what the fuck happened. No we don't. No we don't. Uh Desmond Alexand uh Desmond Xavier is um seems to be the guy who always Desmond Xavier. Wesley, Des? Oh, the guy who... Is that the... Is that the one who... Desmond Xavier Wesley Zachary Wentz. That's the guy who who put on the Hitler suit and then Zachary Wentz is the one, yes. Who uh when when he showed when when he was on that on my screen, I couldn't believe it. So wait a minute.

Because Myron Reed is also in this group. So is there four of them? My understanding was When they were in Ohio, whatever you know Uh who who who's who who are those two brothers who like run a promotion in Ohio with like Chr Christ or Christ? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Chris brothers. That that that's where they broke out and that's where there was four of them. We would only see the two of'em at PWG. Right. And then those were the two who got hired at NXT. Right.

I mean, I don't fucking I I can't l you expect me to be able to keep Ohio professional wrestlers straight in my head? Fuck off. It's too many. It's too many. Too many. They all have lip rings. Only some of them dress like they're bartenders. Also explain to me how it was that'cause it this was when they had their backstage interview with what's her name, right? Yeah. The woman who's not Marie uh Renee. Um Lexi Nair, right? Yeah.

That they all declare, We're gonna go we want the smoke. We're gonna go smoke. Yeah. And then they're like, You want in on this? She's like, Guys, I'm working. And they're like, We're working too And then uh So they're gonna go in the room to smoke. They open the door and say Giant clouds of smoke come billowing out.

So I'm you gotta leave your ship you leave your ship burning. You forgot about that part? You already forgot that you just you just you No, I don't remember I don't remember that part where you let it have to go out. You never let it go out. That would be right. Bale of it. Br I'm like, is their office on fi why do they have a private room also, first of all? I assumed MVP was probably in there. That's my him and Nana must have been already been in there.

Reports are Prince Nana was seen with two uh Caucasian men wearing New Japan tracksuits. Blown out of their minds. I can't even imagine it. He's like, you gotta come back come to the back with us. And we're like, we're gonna get, I'm gonna get

Beaten up. They're gonna beat me up. No, no, don't fuck with me. That was my we're walking through the casino and Nana's like, these guys are New Japan pro wrestlers. And we're like, we're not we I never said that. Stop saying that. Please stop saying that. gonna beat me up. Shit. We're gonna see Nana, hopefully. We'll see him here uh when we can't wait head out to Ontario bumping old Nana. When Tanahashi was like, where did you get these tracksuits? I'm like, from your website.

Blazed to the gills, scared to the death. I had a little pushback on some of the stuff I ordered from Japan'cause th I ordered a couple of bottles of Tanahashi spice as spice blend, which is considered food. Not allowed? Whole rig-umar roll. Well, it's just like certain companies don't even ship her anymore because tariffs and shit. So you the ones that do don't want to touch the food and the food and blah blah blah blah blah. But it all worked out and it will work out.

So but I gotta be able to use the Tanahashi spices. Yeah. We want the spice. Yes. Very much. I w I bet it's good. I bet that spice is one in a hundred. I bet he spent so much time getting his spices together and Feel the spice. Hold on one second. Hold on one second. Oh God. See, this is what he does. Uh things are happen oh my god, things are happening at the Averill household. Kids, it's your old pal Matt McCarthy. Just wanted to take this opportunity

It's so funny. Vince is usually the one who's bad at vamping. I can't think of anything to talk about. Um I've been watching these El Santo movies every Saturday on my social media. They are the the lowest Viewed videos that I do. I the algorithm just doesn't know what the fuck to do with it because I have these you know, every day I watch a different video tape and um on Saturdays was Saturday wrestling tapes and then

uh a contact at TikTok was like, Well, wrestling doesn't count as film and television. So I'm like, all right, well I'll just start watching movies with Santo in them. And so this Saturday it's gonna be Santo versus the King of Crime, in case you want to watch along. You're still muted. Don't get angry. My God, dude. It was the DHL driver right now with my fucking goods from Japan. I had to sign for them. What? As soon as I saw the DHL guy on the porch, I was like

Didn't want him to leave without signing off on the package. So you got it? I got a big old box out there. Why you on a breath? Cause I had to fucking s I had to first of all jump over all the shit, sprint out there, avoid a dog, rip the door open. Avoid a dog. Come running back in here. Poor cookie just like woke up with what the fuck? What's going on? Well, thankfully she alerted me. I was like, why is the dog going apeshit? And then I looked and I saw the fucking DHL guy standing there.

All right. More on that later. More on that later. Well, that's the way. That's the way. What did the the dog alerted me to something the other day? A car accident? Uh no no no the car accident alerted it itself. The dog took advantage of the car accident because we all ran outside and then she was up on the table eating chicken.

Of the teriyaki variety. Yeah, and I and I should have uh with garlic and I should be able to send this uh uh veterin bill to this fucking drunk driver who's out there. I swerve to avoid an animal. Who fucking talks like that? Unbelievable. Rat bastards.

Darby Allin's Dangerous Style

Yeah, man. I can't believe it. What else happened on uh Maximum Carnage? I enjoyed it very, very much. Let me pull it up. Oh, Jesus Christ, I don't have to pull it up. Fucking w what? Something's wrong. Something's terribly wrong with Darby Allen. Oh my god. You can't do that. Dude. It's like it's like William Regal was like You guys need to be more careful and th and AEW and Darby Allen were like, Fuck you. I mean, that's just there's how do you how and again, never fucking taking a bump.

But I just don't see how you take that maneuver onto a set of stairs no in a way that's like at all safe. I don't see how he would have been able to distribute his weight in a way That he didn't completely injure himself. And then the fact that it then he's just up and doing the rest of the match and like I kept like looking at his back. I'm like, how are there no marks on his back? I'm like, am I being worked? I'm like, was that the most masterful I don't see a way to do that.

and not do it. Right. You know? Like it like I don't think it's this i it is I don't know if it's I can't imagine it being like the Kyrie Sane thing where She like takes that bump on the ring apron. Right. And we're all like, Jesus Christ, this is too much. And then it's like, oh wait, why are we not hearing news of her being concussed and on the DL?

But that was the thing. All I kept hearing in my head was Bret Hart being like, dude You know, y you ever ask yourself why why didn't he have a giant welt on the side of his face after that, you know? Yeah, I mean, and my point isn't necessarily that that doing that should have resulted in paralysis or something else. It's just that like It's it just doesn't feel like something that's necessary that will at least absolutely cause some damage moving like long term, you know?

With with a greater risk of it actually being able to fucking really harm you. I mean, Jesus Christ, like I I squat down in front of the washing machine and I'm like, I gotta be careful about how I turn to throw this shit in the dryer. You know, it's like there's no There's no there's no even entertaining the idea of all right, I'm just gonna get German suplexed on the pointy end of the stairs. Like what In the fuck, dude. Grab a hold, Darby. Grab a hold. And then just keeps going.

Takes a lickin' Keeps on taking. Keeps on ticking. I I really hope um Really hope Sting's kid. Sits down with his dad and stings just like Yeah, you see what Darby's doing on the uh don't do that. Ha ha ha. Don't do anything. I mean I love this kid. I you know, I didn't know why they paired us up at the beginning and then uh by the end of my run I didn't want to leave. You know, I love this kid, but uh Jesus Christ, don't do that. I don't know how he's walking.

I mean for real but again, I don't know what the difference is. Cause it's it's what's worse doing that. 'Cause i if we had a list, how many times has Derby wrestled this year or last year, right? And and and of course there's gonna be a chunk of time when he's not on TV because he's on a fucking mountain. You know? Right. But like the damage he's doing to himself

It's gotta shorten this thing. But then it's like you look at the previous two generations where it's like these are all guys with, you know Replaced hips, br replaced knees, replaced shoulders, back problems up the up the up up and down the scale. And it's like

That's just from fucking j just just working in the ring. Just regular old working in the ring. And and as it pertains to Darby specifically though, I think because you know, uh he himself is sort of like, ah, you know, I don't I'm not even gonna do this for that much longer and and maybe, you know, he uh it it does turn out that he's

um Roger Daltrey and he's fucking ends up being old as shit, but he just seems like a guy who legitimately is like, I ain't here for a long time, I'm here for a good time, and I'm gonna fucking go balls to the wall. I'm gonna climb a mountain. Sure. I'm a fucking D drop in off a fucking helicopter, I'm gonna fucking set myself on fire and I'm gonna get German suplexed onto the fucking stairs, you know? Like my a move I do all the time is gonna be the fucking coffin drop. Like everybody says.

When you're when you're taking a move or you're doing a move and you can't see behind you, that's the most dangerous. And he's just doing it on the rest. So it's like he already I just don't see him, you know, at the old folks' home. And that's right. And that's and that's the thing. I don't know because it You you heard McFole say it himself, like in Beyond the Mat when he's just like he's like, you know, I'm taking I'm taking a lot of risks now.

So that but I I want to have the last laugh and then I'll retire when I'm thirty-five. Yeah. Well And then it's like, yeah, and then the That's not for you. No, brother. That's not for you.

Wrestling Legends' Health & Returns

Oh man, you know. You know a clip comes up once in a while? Is um What what was the uh what was the what what's maybe they still do it? What what was that Toronto sports show? With a guy uh off the record. Yeah. With Michael Landsberg. Off the record. Off the record. And it's they show the clip of Hogan talking about McFoley, uh, never going to the gym, eating peanut M's. Yeah.

And then it cuts to Foley just being like, you know, that's you know, that's that's really insulting. Ask anybody that's worked with me i if if I was in condition. Ask ask Ask Shawn Michaels, ask you know, Steve Austin, ask anybody. Yeah. And then he's like, you know, uh you uh y you you you've never invited your friends over to the house to watch a McFoley match and then afterwards you apologize for how bad it was.

Yeah. You know, and yes, that is a stiff shot I'm taking at a Hulk, but you know, I think it's deserved. It's funny because Flair took shots at Mick. Oh yeah. Like a lot of people have taken shots in him, but that's that's awesome. I mean, I love that when he fucking Just sticks it back in Hogan's ass. Oh, just rapid fire, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

'Cause I remember Austin even doing something similar too, uh, when he was on Howard Stern and like where it was like You know, they're talking about, well, Hulk Hogan's still doing it and he's he's like the main competition and he's so old and then Austin being like Well yeah, he's not wrestling the kind of style I am. That's that's that's why he's able to go out there as an old man and just kind of shuffle around. And we and and and that's in like

the mid to late nineties. We didn't even know how bad Hogan was gonna look ten years after that. You know, still shuffling around, Shawn Michaels running into the bottom of his foot. I mean, I just saw today Buff Bagwell. You know, he had he had his leg amputated. He's like, I hope I I hope I can have one more match. I'm like, Buff. No dog. No. It's incredible. No. Lawler's having another match, isn't it? No. What? Isn't hear that? I didn't hear that, but

I mean my God, dude. I swear to God I thought I thought I heard that. I swear to God. If Jerry Lawler's having another match 'Cause it's just one of those things where you're like Mm. Uh no. No, I mean he's had another stroke. He's not having a he's not take doing another fucking No fucking way. Well, that doesn't mean he doesn't want to have another match. Fair. Fair. Uh no, this is just from See why is why is this

That's weird. Cause on on the search results, it makes it look like this article is three days old. And then when you click on it, it's fucking four months old. Okay. So I'm not crazy. I did hear this. Okay. Three months after Jerry the King Lawler suffered a stroke at his home. WWE Hall of Famer provided fans with an update on how he's doing these days and even talked about how he might even have one more wrestling match in him, which look.

Take that with as many grains of salt as you need to. I'm just saying. That's right. Obviously. He's seventy six. And how many strokes has he had? Is that the first one or he's had a couple? I think I think this he's had two, I think. Oof. I mean that's usually the deal. Yeah. Bummer dude. Hey. Bummer dude. That I guess that's what happens when you're eating uh McDonald's hamburgers in your Batmobile every day, okay? Okay. Okay. I mean I don't know.

Maybe if any coffin should tell me maybe maybe you should tell me, you know. I guess that's what happens when people throw coffee at you when you're on the late night with David Letterman show. Doop doop doop. Hey boss, I just realized something. Undertaker ain't never lost at a WrestleMania. He's got a streak going. Maybe this is something we can fuck up in a few years.

Austin vs Rock & Cursed Mania

What I mean, w when fucking Austin had that uh He just did that interview with fucking Van Vleet. You know, he was like he was like, Could you have another match? 100%. Will you? Probably not. But the mind goes to is it Rock Austin and Saudi Arabia next year? I can't think of an uglier looking match. That would make me I any any Big five feel. Let Rock do whatever he wants. Major card. Let it run if I feel.

I mean Rock and Roman, that's that's the match they both want, and Rock's the head of the board or whatever, you know. I mean Rock probably dropped the dime uh on Vince McMahon to the Wall Street Journal. Who knows? Who knows? Every kid you went to high school with wants to see Rock Austin again and Saudi. Come on, let him have it, Maddie. Can't imagine all these fucking fifty year old J. Brown marks. Come on. There would be nothing more

Awful to me than seeing poor Steve Austin lace up the boots one more time. They did it so well. That that him and Kevin Owens was the perfect coda to that that stellar run, you know? Yeah. I mean when was when was the match he had before that? You know, was it was it the uh Seattle Mania, I think. And that was when he almost OD'd on Ephedra, right? Um whatever it was, yeah. The night before. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.'Cause then he he he he went yes. That was like a cursed mania because you got

Are you saying that because Carlos was there? Probably. Carlos' bad luck, dude. Gotta stay away from his mojo. Kurt Angle with um his fucking you know, puzzle pieces rattling around in his neck. Yeah. You got Brock Lesnar landing on his fucking base. Yeah. Austin almost like dies. Yeah. And um I might be crazy. No, that was Toronto. That's the first uh acknowledgement of the streak, I believe was in Toronto. That was Undertaker Ric Flair. Booger Red Yeah, man. Big time. Super super.

Ja, ja, ja, ja, ja. Ja, ja. Was it an Austin's book, or is it in a book about that WrestleMania? Book of quotes. Where'd you get that one? That must have been in Austin's book, which is not great, you know. I mean, look, pizza's still pizza. It's a book about Steve Austin, what are you gonna do? But He talks about

The fluttering in his chest, meeting up with Nash, I think, to go work out. They w had worked out, he went back upstairs and then some lady who worked in the office came out of the elevator and he was like, I'm in trouble. And she like called nine one one and whatever, yeah. And he he attributed it to, you know, whatever supplement he was taking had ephedra in it. Yeah. Yeah. Plus which I think known which known coffee man. Coffee, Thai Coke, 7-Up. Cold Bear.

Coffee di Coke seven up. I that that's that that killed a guy that I worked with at MTV. I remember seeing him seeing him walking around uh on the floor. Jacked. Big fucking dude. And then one morning I saw a bunch of the women Who who were friends with him, they were all crying. They big meet up on the floor and it was like Yeah. They believe it was it was uh ephedra. Yeah, no, that was happening back then. Like, you know, like they wouldn't, you know.

They w like football coach wouldn't let'em have a drink of water until they finish the drill or whatever and then a motherfucker just dies, you know. Well that's how or it was Martin Lawrence just purely for loco. was like s running with a fucking garbage bag on, right?

He was. I don't know if that's all of it or not, but I mean I don't know if that's all of it or not. He had a heat stroke and went into a coma for a second, didn't he? Yeah, I think so. As I recall. I mean that's best of my recollection, that's exactly what fucking happened. Weird shit, dude. Hey I hated it. I I stood up to Vince just like I always did. I said, Vince, this is wrong.

Can you imagine if if Bruce Pritchard tried to tell a story where he's like, Yeah, I told Vince I don't think this is the right move. Can you imagine? Please. Bruce Britchard on the record. Bruce, what happened when? Well, I told Vince I hated it. I said this ain't the right move. I mean, I think we need to go with uh we gotta go with Brian. We gotta go with Phil. Unbelievable. What a dick. Boom.

Favorite Wrestlers and Outro

Vincent. Yes. Who's your favorite wrestler? Bandito That was a good match. Bandito always delivers, man. I mean Bandito always delivers. Fucking bad mofo, bro. And you, Matt, a favorite wrestler? I mean, I gotta go with Darby Allen just because i that's That's all I could think about all week. He's a pillar. He's gonna fucking need a pillar to stand up at some point. What if he just somehow like cruises by and is just like Yeah.

Did a bunch of bad shit to my body and um you know, just kind of continued to walk between the raindrops and nothing nothing ever caught up with me, you know? Can you imagine? I mean there's th there's dudes like that out there it's just like, Yeah, that was crazy. I don't know how I walked away from that. Anyway, here I'm sleepy, I guess.

Who should I make it out to? Where can the kids find you online? Vince Averl on Twitter, Vince. Averyl on Instagram. And this is your old pal Matt McCarthy saying, follow me on all forms of social media at McCarthy Redhead. And um Join the movie club, get yourself a membership card to the video garage and access to full unedited videotapes. And we have one new Patreon patron today.

And uh their name is Chicken Riggies. Ugh Chicken Reggies Chicken Reggies, Bruce. What the hell is a chicken riggy? Mm. Uh, it's fuel, pal. Uh and um we'll catch you all a little bit later on that QA and that point five. So ta ta for now.

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