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WeWatchWrestling Issue #642

Dec 31, 20251 hr 33 min
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Summary

In their final podcast of 2025, Matt and Vince reflect on a tumultuous year in professional wrestling, dissecting significant events from Defy and AEW to Wrestlemania and the Continental Classic. They share personal anecdotes from live shows, critique industry trends like PWI rankings and promotional strategies, and discuss specific wrestler performances, including John Cena's "retirement" tour and Tony Storm's standout year. The episode provides an engaging retrospective with humorous insights into the wrestling world.

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Transcript

Intro / Opening

Do you watch wrestling?

Final Episode of 2025

Greetings. Salutations. Well, hello there. Welcome, friends and foes, heels and babyfaces, to the final We Watch Wrestling podcast of 2025. The 2025 season now concludes. Oh, I'm doing the thumbs-up thing now on this Zoom. I'm your wonderful darling, red-headed bearded host, Matt Bates Wrestling McCarthy. With me always, Professional Wrestling Encyclopedia, Mr. Vince Averill. Hi. Hi, Vince. What's happening? Nothing.

Try to get the energy up. More energy, please. I have a pot of coffee on right now. I'm going to run out real quick and grab it. More energy, please. What? You've been up since 630 this morning. Well, I was up finishing World's End. Oh, busy, busy, busy little boy. Busy little bee. Do you know what the busy little bee told me? The busy little bee told me everything. When's the last time you sat down and watched?

Gladiator and Tanahashi Shirts

the movie gladiator oh uh maybe when i left the theater and i saw it the first time would be oh man i don't think i've even caught a bit of it on cable i could be wrong oh man that's a good movie you should re-watch it all right i mean i'm down with crow dog joaquin doing this thing yeah when you the thing you did before about the b i was like i don't know what the hell he's talking about it's from it's from gladiator dude

Are you not that up now? Are you not entertained? I'm starting to understand. Are you not entertained? Oh, that's Seamus. Now you're doing Seamus. Man, in our own small ways. We're all doing Seamus. Oh, God damn. We watch wrestling on Patreon. All your bonus content needs. Bonus audio, bonus video, Q&As. You can join the Discord. A thriving Discord. Oh, man. Is that the... What is that? It's an old Tanahashi shirt.

There's no old Tanahashi shirts, just Tanahashi shirts I haven't seen yet. Then that's what it is. Wow. I don't think I've seen that one before. Could you put a number on it? How many Ta-Nehisi shirts do you have? Oh. Then imagine if he's like five. No, I bet I have...

Sleep and McMahon Tutelage

I'm just going to guess without taking too much time. I'm going to say 12. But I also have about 10 towels. A different towel for every shirt. different towels different shirts some shirts that are the same as the towels others that are completely different but that feels gauche you can't um you can't wear the the matching towel and shirt it's a little too same same well i don't

I don't tend to wear the towels. I think the only time I brought the towel, I brought a towel to the G1 in Dallas. But I don't, I don't know that I brought the towels out too often.

um i have been watching i've been watching uh i was just uh in uh at the same time as raw and kind of instead of raw but in the you know i was watching the um the g1 climax final from 2015 against nakamura fuck dude oh that was that was better than the last six raws but uh different just different just different just different but uh yeah different than that it was better Just carving through some old...

I mean, I know you haven't watched the video, dude. You got to watch that YouTube. I know you're putting it off. I know you're waiting. I know you're a busy guy. You got to take a look at it. I forgot. I forgot. I got to watch it. I'm sorry. I'll watch it after this. Stop yelling. just it always feels like i'm like i always look at the like tomorrow i'm like oh man i got a lot of time get stuff done tomorrow and then all of a sudden i wake up the next day and i'm like

What the fuck was I thinking? I got to do this. I got to do this. What you got to do is knock off the sleep. The sleep is what's killing you. That's when you get all your best work done. It's killing me, dude. You're killing yourself to live. Stop with all the sleep. What do you get? Five, six hours? You don't need it. You're killing me, Larry. You learn nothing under the tutelage of Vince McMahon. You're still sleeping. Weak.

I have done nothing if not let Vince McMahon down every moment of my life. What was I going to say?

The Eddie Kingston Pants Mystery

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, then it vanished again. We were talking about the thing, the shirts, the towels. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You only brought a towel to one show. I think. There may have been one other show that I brought a towel to. But what about that time you put on Eddie Kingston's pants? Never happened. I didn't wear them or nothing.

I pulled them out of the bag when they arrived and looked at them and put them back in the food bazaar or whatever it was. I can't remember the different grocery stores in New York. Whatever. plastic shopping bag that they were in yeah put them back into that oh eddie kingston away trader joe's bag no question about it that's when i guess his shoot name was on the uh

On the return address. On the return address. Oh, that's hilarious. Which does bring to mind that... we returned to those shores of the lodge room where i returned eddie's pants that's what i thought of right away because it was right after the pandemic and so on the video

I guess that restaurant closed or something, but it was like, it was, you know, we all remember coming out of the pandemic. It was like restaurants. It was like all outdoor seating on the sidewalk and sometimes encroaching into the parking on the street. which they then did away with to the chagrin of Joe DeRosa, but that's a different story for a different time. What's that got to do with what?

Well, DeRosa had his whole setup outside of Rose's. What has it got to do with Eddie's pants? When I took the video, which I've watched sometimes when I'm feeling down. you know i just i dip into that video to watch you give humanity the humanity in that thing but i'm chasing you because you're chasing eddie down because he's finishing a cigarette

And then he's like, oh, here come the mocks. And so he's trying to get out of there. So then you chase him down. And I'm chasing you down. And in the video, it's me running past a bunch of people. Maybe this is just my imagination. And it's just people waiting in line for the show. But in my mind, there's people sitting, eating dinner on the sidewalk. Maybe. I can't picture a restaurant there, but maybe there may be.

Witness Testimony and Video Proof

I don't fucking know, dude. You know how you watch something or you hear something a thousand times? Okay. And then you finally look at it? And then you're like, wait, I had this all wrong. What the fuck was I thinking about? This is what happens when people give witness testimony. You're right. No, you're right. I'm just going to check this video real quick. Review the tape.

You know I have it in my favorites. There it is. We were back at the lodge room in Highland Park, California. Highland Park, Los Angeles, California. See, it's crazy. Oh, yeah. Yep. I was right. I was right. Because when we come back around... Hold on. If I could just pause this at 0-0. God damn it. I knew it. Man, you ever know that you were right? And then you're like, God damn, I'm so right. Fuck. Hold on. I've hung out with you for a long time, dude. I know the deal, bro. I know the deal.

beautiful yeah look at that that is we that's turning around walking back towards the lodge room that's all on the street isn't that crazy yeah I mean, is there even a restaurant at all there now? No, I don't think so. Because when we were walking up, I remember Carlos or somebody being like, oh, that restaurant must be gone. Oh, okay.

yeah i mean i can't even picture like what the building looks like other than right where the lodge room door is i'm sorry look at look at this look at this fucking guy with his feet up on the chair chilling just chilling I knew it. Isn't that crazy? It's all fake grass. There's a fence up. There's lights and umbrellas. You go now?

Gone. It's just a fucking... That whole neighborhood seems like it's in bad shape. There it is. Vince all masked up. Oh, yeah. Eddie gives him a hug. Yeah, brother. You got it, dog. Don't breathe on me. Don't breathe on me, Eddie. Well, this is, it's October 2021. So, you know, it's still, it's like we're out of it and then we're going back into it and it's like, God damn it, what's happening? What's happening?

Defy Wrestling: Sting Jr. and Royce

What was happening on Sunday night, though, Defy Wrestling returned to Los Angeles. Okay. Steve Borden. You may know him as Stinks Kid. steve borden is a star dude got all the tools now they just need to put them with braun breaker and we can have a little uh nostalgia act you know it's funny i mean you see him on tv you're like god damn this guy looks just like sting you see him in person you're like

man this guy looks like a fucking like a a real good looking nate bargazzi oh really you didn't you didn't think he looked like sting so much i think he looked like he's he looks exactly like sting but then it never dawned on me until i'm i'm i'm up close i'm like

I'm like, man, Nate could be a member of the Borden clan. You're thinking of Jay Bois. I think you're getting that mixed up. He looks like Jay Bois. Have you seen Jay Bois lately? He looks fantastic. The guy's taking good care of himself. Jay Bois is a fine wine. And no, I have not seen him lately. Have I told you lately that I'm J-Bwa? No one knows what we're talking about. J-Bwa wrote the theme music to Monday Night Beers. Yeah, he did.

fucking shred the band is a shredder uh yeah so uh johnny robbie match of the night with um who was the who was her the person she wrestled oh uh britney brooks yeah match of the night for me i thought they were They were fucking great. Always nice to see Royce Isaacs getting his shit in. First of all, I feel like Royce... It dawns on me when he came out dressed like a street tough to Coolio, I was like...

I don't think anybody in this room realized, like, I think everybody was like, oh, Royce, Royce believes this. I don't, I don't think anybody appreciated that he was looking for ridiculous heat by doing it. Yeah. Yeah. And the only, uh, the only thing that.

really garnered the ridiculous heat was the fucking way he had shaved his chest oh my god just like with uh furry furry pectoral muscles and then a hard line to clean except for one thin little line almost like you see on a pencil beard down the middle of his uh you know just from the stern straight down to the belly button just just disgusting like think

Think when Hulk Hogan was a heel in the late 70s, early 80s with Blassie and the way he had his chest shaved to look like really a cock and balls. And now, if you can believe it. What Royce is doing is worse. Royce looks like he had a line of ants going from his sternum to his belly button. He's lucky Ozzy Osbourne's dead because if he had seen that, he would have tried to sniff it. Oh my God. Snored it.

Defy Show Experience and Sound

yeah and then um truly offensive really i mean and he's in there with star boy charlie who's completely dug his heels into the fucking overall denim bullshit well of course uh It's the worst. It's the worst. Almost immediately after reading that, I just read on Meltzer's site that Sting had watched the match from the production.

booth which i had looked up at once in a while then we get a text from the other borden justin dr justin borden socal's preeminent pro wrestling official that's right doctor of officiations who was wondering had we seen sting in the crowd i was i i kind of figured he would be there and um you know because i i kept like i mentioned i was like it Every time we would go see Jungle Boy, I'm like, Luke Perry's here somewhere.

Well, but the difference being that Luke Perry lived in Los Angeles and the matches we were going to were in the Los Angeles area. Exactly. As much as he's being billed from Venice Beach, I'm pretty sure lives... in another time zone so that's why that's the only thing that made me think like well there's a chance because he's like you know his kids yeah going he wants to see it but but he doesn't live here you know but i bet you a guy like sting you know he just he's like

Knowing that he doesn't have to work, but he's just catching a flight, he's just like, this is... I bet just Sting could catch a fucking airplane in his sleep. i bet you he has i bet you plenty of times he's woken up on that plane been like hawk where the fuck are we going what what town oh what somebody get dusty i don't know where the fuck i am it's a beautiful thing

Beautiful thing. Hold on. I'm going to grab one of those cups of coffee that I was telling you about. Matt Baker's back at work today. I shudder to think who's taking care of that goddamn cat. Oh, yes. Well. That cat's probably all right by itself for a little while. Probably sleeping. Pretty exclusively sleeping. Hopefully. But with the kitten, you never know.

Things can be pretty rambunctious. Hopefully the Baker family can figure it out and enjoy the many years with their new... feline companion uh defy show yeah i thought it was a good time it was um and also the last time uh we had been in that room they had they were using like a I don't even know what size. It was a very small ring. And so they had a full-size ring there this time, which I thought was great. We were right up on top of it. Yeah, that's a good little spot.

You can put a 20 by 20 in there and still get a decent crowd going. And it's also like the... It really made me appreciate the acoustics in... Reseda. There was always something in that American Legion post that it never felt like it was too loud. You could hear everybody. and the chants were never... At the Globe, it's like you couldn't understand what anybody's saying. It just gets lost. The lodge room, the ceiling's a little high, but there isn't...

The sound doesn't feel as intimate, but it is a small room with a small crowd. I would say that I wish that I had worn earplugs just for the ring because the ring was so loud. It was... And they kept the mist machine on the whole time, which I clocked immediately because it sounded like somebody left a record on the turntable. And the guy won.

person removed from our group was not only filming on his phone but also commentating like he was making a uh making a reel to send to fucking stanford or something which was wholly annoying but uh it was uh it was as jack would say cringe um but uh but yeah i just the next the next morning i was like ah fuck i wish i would have had earplugs on in

Defy's Future and Promotions

Because my hearing is already, you know, not tremendous. Who has worse hearing, you or your brother? Oh, who fucking knows? We should run some numbers. We should do a test. Commission a test? Yeah. Was he giving you a huh a lot or a what or something? No, it was pretty funny. He was... He was like, I don't know why Vince made me move. I think he just wants to try to give you a break from the guy doing play-by-play. He's like, it's not necessary. I'm fine. I'm fine. He is fine. That's it.

He's fine. He's fine. Yeah, and you know, fine is a wrestling term. I'm like, Russell, you're not acting. Then why aren't you acting fine? uh yeah so defy uh they came back and they had quite a little program there now i don't know what the future of that promotion is because i had read that that was it but i but that doesn't make any sense There was nothing other than one little thing. Who knows? Who knows what I read? I think whoever wrote the post that you saw, I don't know.

was very bad at communication and made it sound like, instead of saying it's the last show of the year, they made it sound like it's the last show. I went to college.

you know reading is your friend but also writing is your friend they kind of go hand in hand i mean the fact is is they didn't fucking promote that show like how many people told us we wouldn't have known about this show unless you guys were talking about it i would say i say we were responsible for at least five people which is way more than we should be that's insane we we brought we brought in five people

In addition to, I mean, probably, I mean, would Carlos and Rocker and Avila have known? Maybe. Russell wouldn't have been there. So now we're up to 10. Yeah, it's just odd. it's not it's a it's a poor way to run your business well but also like how how do you get the word out you know like um because i think that the lodge room as well usually all their shows go through their ticketing and this did not go through their ticketing and so it didn't come up on their site for a bit so they weren't

They didn't have the benefit of the venue saying, like, this is happening at our plate. And that's not their fault, but I'm just saying, like, I don't know any more, like... what you do. Do you fly her at the GCW show earlier in the month? I don't know. Something could have been done. How about when somebody like you mentions it on their Instagram?

they repost that on ours i put that on ours fucking so anyway anyway wishing everyone well the year that was uh i hope i'm me me and kevin nash we don't always agree but we agree again this time kevin nash said that they need to fucking put that belt on the brawn breaker on january 5th on raw That Phil looks like he's done. Dude, when they went in close, when they were face to face, I'm not even talking about... Is Nash talking about Phil's work in the ring?

yeah he's talking about he said like from that tag match last oh yeah and stuff that he just he just thinks he's done but but fucking brown breaker last night on the mic like let him have it let's go brown ate his lunch When they moved in close and it was the two of them like eyeball to eyeball, nose to nose, which Vince, they were like, oh, Vince hates doing that. I'm like, then why does he do it so much? Fucking Phil looked fucking ancient.

He's got so many fucking wrinkles on his fucking face. I was just like, God damn. It's hard to... It feels like certain matches in the old WCW when I'm like...

how am I supposed to suspend disbelief that this fucking stud in his twenties is, is, is going, you know, toe to toe with this old man. Yeah, I think, um, cm punk uh dislike aside it just it just makes sense like let's let's go with the fucking the thing that's new and young and ready and fresh and you know it just uh and again i guess if they if they feel like you have to do that anointing at wrestlemania then it's a couple more months but but it's time for braun breaker to uh

Jericho's WWE Return Prospects

snap this fool in half and then CM Punk and Jericho can tag team against LA Knight and whoever in perpetuity you know because that's the other thing I'm thinking about like you know Jericho's gonna come over right uh it's like wink wink yeah me and triple h are are cool now never and also even if you are cool what like you can't i love jericho i'm not one of these people that was like fuck jericho he needs to fucking

piss off and die but i mean i also didn't think he needed to always be in the mix but whatever in in the e there ain't no room for him anywhere near the top no there's not room for jericho anywhere near the top and so and and coupled with how triple h really feels about him i just think jericho well you know he's i guess he gets to still do his cruise or whatever but i just think uh it'll be

Well, first of all, it dawns on me. Is he going to come out to Judas? There's no way. They're going to make him come out to the fucking Y2K music. who knows i mean jericho he's he's the king of reinvention he may come out with a mohawk sure come out to uh lord knows what dude i mean look no matter what happens he'll be very entertaining WWE is a better place for him because they love old people, but it's also... He can just do something. If they put him into the main event mix...

It would be preposterous. He can just do some mid-card representation, upper mid-card. He's a name. But then also, whatever TV time they give him...

R-Truth and Timothy Thatcher

it'll be very entertaining he's he always delivers a little interaction with owens right this little that um uh fuck what was i gonna say but i hope all those all those fucking uh wwe bots online kept the receipts on talking mad shit on Jericho listen this is that that that goes out the window that's like that's like you know the guy down the street wearing the hat that says I don't care he's a pedo you know

uh it's like once it you're mad about something and then it's the guy that you've you know and so then all of a sudden you're like hypocrisy is is is the law but um last night was the first time i think that i looked at our truth and was like oh he actually is aging a little bit and this is like in his in his work like in his appearance in his work in the ring i was like oh

like because forever it just seemed like he was sealed in right whatever and did not age and then um obviously the haircut isn't doing him a lot of favors but it wasn't that it was like it was actually just like you know something about the match and and his and his movement i was like oh he actually is like he's a little bit older so he it's it's that moment in batman when when they feel the body armor it's like he's human after all

Interesting. Well, death is coming for us all, Vincent. No doubt. I don't know. I'm not trying to shit on R-Truth. I love R-Truth, but I wore a shirt on Christmas. Two things I know about you to be true. One, you love R-Truth. And barbed wire. Two.

You're shorter than Timothy Thatcher. These are the two things I know about you. Yeah. This was a classic moment, kids. Carlos, ever the button pusher, he's an instigator. He immediately just goes... man timothy thatcher's taller than you and vince wasn't having it every every time thatcher and they they spent a lot of time on the floor they walk him and brian keith with the main event every time you walk by i would stay every time

like it's popped up on his feet i was waiting for it like he never even like he never even turned an eye to me i was never acknowledged it he didn't give a fuck he was not concerned about me standing up every time because it was it was very close quarters but i was i mean it was it was

you were closer to him than I am to my computer right now. I mean, it's, it's insane how small that room is. Yeah. Well, let the record show when we parted company, Carlos was dancing a jig on the side of, Oh my God. I hit the ATM. I walked the other direction with him and Rocker. And I was like, oh, hold up. And they're both...

Carlos was like, this is a bad neighborhood. We're going to watch your back, Matt. And then the two of them had their arms crossed like by fucking heaters. Jesus. Kudos to him, dude. He was up at 5 a.m. for work the next morning. Out the door in the car. uh but uh it was it was it was a good show you can catch it on triller or if you want to wait for botchamania you can watch the viva van match and you watch that trailer it was so fucking dark in there i was like are they filming this

The ring announcer said something about Triller in between his explaining how to cheer and how to boo. Oh yeah, I was like, what is this, a Comedy Central taping? This guy's explaining how to fucking... Very.

if it sounds like a joke laugh if there's a pause laugh and clap um but it was like you know obviously you don't like a fucking unnecessary lighting rig or whatever i was also happy we weren't sitting on the bar side because that's where the lights were pointed they were getting blinded to look like but it's just like just keep the lights on it was like so dark and

Defy Production and Upcoming Shows

yeah but it's very dark so now i'm just i'm just curious for this house of glory show we get to go to um at the end of january because you know they usually have some names but so far you know we've got kurt angle who's not wrestling we've got matt cardona and i don't think much else has been discussed but i think like the hardys are their tag champs i believe

This is the Globe on the 30th, right? That's right. Hard wrestling. You know, it's funny you mentioned the Hardy Boys. Shotzi. Oh, is she on the card? Looks that way.

Critiquing PWI's Tag Team List

Get ready for at least five more tickets to move. The latest Pro Wrestling Illustrated arrived in the mail. This might be my last one. I honestly don't know. They don't, like... I know that my subscription is up, but I don't know when the final one is. And this has the top-ranked tag teams of 2025. And wouldn't you know who's number one? Brodito. Matt and Jeff Hardy. That seems odd to me. Hey, man. Oldest ride with the longest line.

I guess so. It says long live the Hardys. They're the TNA champs. Are they also the NXT champs still? Not at all. Hey, man. this ain't johnny riso you're talking to here i don't fucking know but uh i mean when did they leave when did they when did they go to tna was that this like this year or last year do we know I mean, just glancing at the article, it doesn't have a rundown like that. But the evaluation period is from October of 2024 to Halloween of this year.

Oh, yeah, they went back last year. Oh, yeah, way last year, like in April. I mean, it seems... I mean, I don't know. I don't know who I would put at number one. It seems odd. I mean, TNA, it's half an indie. I mean, there's obviously, just like anything else, there's differing opinions. I think, obviously, the Hardys had a great year between two different companies that have TV programs.

everything else but um i mean number two is the hurt business okay well then now now now now i have to find out who like is there an author attached to this fucking thing there is These rankings are according to Al Castle, Kevin McIlvaney, Kristen Ashley, and Jason McVeigh. All right.

I mean, half of them are Irish that we can tell right off the bat. I'd let that subscription run out. But in the meantime, Matty, you know, the big, big story is the year that was. You know, you were here. I was here. Who's after the Hurt Business? Well, that's just the thing. It's a... Sammy Guevara and Dustin Rhodes? Wingori. This is Hanan and Saya.

Ida from from stars maybe I didn't watch enough wrestling this year well homeboy I can tell you for a fact that this was this was my lowest intake of of attending professional wrestling and then also like you know usually there would be those years you'd hear like you know on Fightful or like Meltzer or like somebody would just be like oh This match between so-and-so that happened in stardom or CMLL or, you know, over in England, like, oh, you got to watch this. I didn't do that.

You've been on the road, bro. You spent the entire year on the road, dude. You got no time. Well, that's the other crazy thing is somehow every weekend gig lined up with some pay-per-view. Or some live show in LA. I feel you. I mean, it was lunacy. Targeted attacks. Targeted attacks. Number four is Angel de Oro.

Los Hermanos Chavez. This is a team from CMLL. I did find it interesting, especially given how... i thought the triple a show was and they've been doing good shows under the banner of the e right that the uh the the main creative team there is uh mark calloway borash calloway with uh conan for you know hey is this does this work is this is this gonna be okay uh kind of stuff and so you know mean mark uh he wants some he wants them in mexico but once they're in mexico

He can get some something out of him. Let's not have any of these shows happen north of the border, Mark. I just want them to come in legally, come in the right way. But... number five is a street profits uh this is this is a terrible list a real hey man the street profits this is for what this year

yes oh shut the fuck up i mean i was trying to be cool but like fuck this go please please what is joe satriani on the list get the fuck out of here with this trash we don't we we waste no more time talking about this this is fucking stupid This is a bad list. Street profits. Listen, I love fucking Montez, but that's, that's, that's, that's, did they hold, did they even, what?

Please, there's just no reason for that to ever be the case. They're not on any list, especially one that's, what, is that their number four? number five five they're in the top five get out of here please i know you like when i get mad but this is not working for no i don't no vince's i don't i don't like it i don't like it one bit um

But what really went down this year was the senior retirement. I'm sorry. This is the last thing I'm going to say. This is a list of 100 teams. Number 15 is the Wyatt Six. Oh, there's actually, it's not just, it's like, oh, okay. Well, I guess it's tags and trios. I don't know. So Wyatt Six being Dexter Loomis and Joe Gacy. Okay. War Raiders number 12. This is a trash list.

yeah i don't i mean if who did anybody brodito brodito was number seven that's which is listen and that's even kind of high because i mean they weren't even together that long whatever i'm just saying like if we're going to talk about the fucking street profits and yes bro dito's number one but uh because they actually had a title reign and fucking whatever but but also

uh i know baker got a cat but if anyone got a bird for some reason we have some birdcage liner for you and it's this magazine i know maddie's gonna put it in cellophane and keep it forever but this is a piece of shit magazine i think i'm afraid you know i think uh i think the the kids at pwi they just want to start conversations and spark there we go you know what maybe you're right maybe you're right the outrunners are number 44

Okay. Private parties 42? Are they still on the show? I mean, they may have been on a couple times this year. I'm not the guy to say, but... but uh but i i think even with my fucking memory i i could have put together a list that made a little more sense but i mean like jet speed is number 53 it's like that's i don't know this this

yeah this list i'd go i'd put it back by those stuffed animals behind you so we can get on with our lives um but oh god the big scene of retirement tour which you loved to a point

John Cena's Genius Retirement Tour

I feel like... What was the point? I feel like at every turn, they did it completely right. You know? It was like, thank God he turned heel. Thank God he turned back babyface in mid-sentence. And thank God he won the IC belt for a cup of coffee. And then thank God he lost to... To Gunther, because Lord knows Gunther benefits so much. To be tapping. Making a smiling man tap out after 45 minutes in the same hold.

uh after uh brock lesnar uh beat him in uh two seconds so well we can't think that way anymore it's not how it works anymore you have to it's a great great great tour there They care about that. I got the Heatmiser thing going on right now. I missed 101. I think really it's they're happy that it became a meme.

they're happy that they made a couple of t-shirts they're happy you know like they don't they're not fucking of course gunther gets to have it out with our truth and whoever else has issue with him being disrespectful but but the the ultimate goal for them i think really is at this point that other stuff like did they had an entertainment tonight uh

say something about it when they were talking about seeing his new movie like that's all they do those production meetings it's just uh oh there was more social media there were more google searches about cena's face than uh the nba uh game that was on uh saturday so so my point being it's like get busy living or get busy dying i think we have to we can't think about things in these terms anymore at least beyond uh you know

It will be chopping it up a little bit, having a little fun on Tuesday, Wednesday, you know. It'll go down in history as the most confusing. See, what'll be great is in like five years. when because that's that's when the the revisionist you know they start making their move on online they're like oh you're talking about earth being here in five years no i'm talking about the thing being here in five years well yeah

I'm saying when we're on the space station in five years and this planet is a burning cinder. And President Ace comes over the loudspeaker. He'll be president of everyone by then. That's right. When Tanahashi rescues the entire planet. Show us the way, President Hiroshi. Because there's always these motherfuckers who are like, nah, man, this...

This show, this movie, the hate was undeserved. And then people in the comments are like, I always liked it. Yeah, I liked it too. It's going to be like, oh man, this scene to run, this is why it was genius. Let me explain it to you. And then boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Like, you sent me the thread on Twitter, and I'm just like, this is garbage. Garbage. But it's coming. It's coming. People are going to explain why it was great.

what was get busy listen get what was great what was great this year yeah what was great uh well the first raw at the inuit dome was i i think had to be the show of the year for me into it dome we had a good time as i recall despite a great time uh let's see the year opened up with into it You're talking about some native people from up by the North Pole. I'm probably never going to not do that. I can't think. You ever see the Fast Runner?

Yeah, what's that? It's a movie. It's about Inuit people. Yeah, but who's in it? I mean, Inuit people. Natives are in it, yeah. God, that sounds familiar. All I can picture in my head is Dustin Hoffman in Little Big Man, which is not the movie. Anton Ajuat, the fast runner. Oh, no, I don't know this. I like his shades. Yeah.

That's pretty cool. A docudrama, huh? Holy shit. Two hours and 41 minutes? It's long, man. Dan Blue sat me down, made me watch it. Oh, good. I mean, I've seen... the nook of the north that's like the first documentary ever they kind of say in film classes all right all right it's on my list so it was the big seth rollins cm punk match that headlined that program was it not uh

Top Moments: Intuit Dome to Hogan

I don't know. Yes, it was. Look at me. I think before that, the big... match in my hearts and minds was Wrestle Dynasty with Kenny Omega versus Gabe Kidd was outstanding that match got a star the January 6th which is, you know. Hold up, hold up. What? What? Well, Jericho's coming to the territory, didn't you hear? The first Raw on Netflix. Let's see. Yeah. This is when probably more of note than any Liv versus Ria or Jay versus Drew or Seth versus Punk is the final appearance.

ever let's face it of hulk hogan oh yeah definitely yep and you let him know if there's anyone in that building let him know how you felt it was maddie it's it's hard to get people to notice you In a wrestling crowd. But I was booing so much. The people in front of us were shook. Hogan, that was it for Terry. That was it for Terry. He made one appearance on Dipshit's podcast. I'm sitting right here. Oh, no. Not you, you goon. Fucking what's his name? The punter. Oh.

McAfee, White, and Retirement Talk

McAfee. McAfee, yeah. The former WWE announcer. Yes, yes. Former WWE announcer. He's like, the schedule's fucked. He basically blamed it on his wife. I don't know if you saw that clip. Fucking brilliant way to appeal to his audience. No, McAfee is a guy who I enjoyed him on commentary, but He's on my list of never need to hear from or see outside of a wrestling show. No. As soon as the executive producer, Paul Levesque, and whoever the sex pest was, comes up...

I don't need to hear from McAfee ever again. He straight up blamed his wife for it. He was like, because she understands all his schedule when he's doing the podcast or when he's going and announcing. for whatever, because he gets paid a shit ton of money. So she's fine with that. But when he travels so much for wrestling, and she's like, and he's just doing it.

Right. He's doing it for the love of the game and he's not doing it for a gigantic paycheck. She's like, well, this is bullshit. Yeah. Whether that's true or not, it's one, the most like fucking. red pill misogynistic bullshit like oh my fucking nagging wife all she cares about is money it's like jesus christ homeboy anyway was jay white around at all this year

Or was he hurt the whole year? No. I feel like he was hurt all of last year, too. I mean, fuck. I just saw a Jay White figure at the Target the other day. That could be a good sign. They mentioned him on the show the other day. When Swerve was running down the new champion. What's up with the other fucking gun? I was wondering that myself. I believe that's Colton. Yeah. Well, now that we've gotten...

Tanahashi and Cena. Let's just hurry up with this AJ Styles retirement because now we've got to get to the real star who's retiring this year. Hopes and dreams, Matty. Hopes and dreams. Can't even see it. There it is. We'll see if you get your tiger mask to retire or not. He's retiring. Next year is the year. What remains to be seen? Along with the gimmick, please. No. Can we be done with this?

The cartoon hasn't been on in ages. None of them kids care about them anymore. It's a 40, almost 50-year legacy. He doesn't get to retire with the mask. That gets passed. No, they need to put that on one of the young lions and make a new star with it. New gimmick coming out of One Piece. There's got to be a character in this One Piece show they can make something out of.

Elimination Chamber and Cena's Moment

You bring it into the modern day. Let's see. Grand Slam Australia. We have that Kenny Omega and Will Ospreay versus Kyle Fletcher and Takeshita tag match, which was outstanding. Elimination Chamber was outstanding. The men's Elimination Chamber was very, very good. The aftermath, in and of itself, that's where the show ended with Cena turning on Cody.

Yes. What a moment. What a fucking moment. Do you think that's what was in Sina's head? Has anybody made this connection online? That it started with that dead face meme?

of him turning evil and then he retires with the smile with the half smile like the Mona Lisa smile makes sense uh yeah I mean and again there you go like all fucking Triple H wants to talk about is as moments you know so like they made a moment you know they made a moment and then some poor kid in fucking whatever uh european country got completely harshed by him

remember like seen it came out like just just obliterated that fucking kid or some kid do you remember this was uh sometime in 2012 because i was i was at the tv when i was working there I don't know if it was Cena versus Lesnar or if it was when they were doing him and Kane. There was a match. It was certainly a pay-per-view.

Cena's Unscripted Promos

We can find this out. I just thought of this. But this is just a great example of Cena going into business for himself. And he would do like it. He'll do things in promos where you're just like. that wasn't scripted or like there's no way anybody knew that this was happening um and like again there's no way there's no way whoever produced that match if it was michael hayes or you know whoever there's no way cena sat down and goes

All right. It doesn't even say it to Gunther. He's like, all right, I'm going to smirk right before I tap. I'm going to be in this state of bliss of like, man, it's over. He does these things. There was a pay-per-view where it ended where Cena was selling his arm and his shoulder. Bad. To the point where towards the climax of the match he wasn't even using the arm.

And then he grabs a mic. This is impromptu. No one knew he was going to do this. I wonder if this even aired on the pay-per-view. But he grabs the mic and he goes, I want to thank everybody. And then he kind of gestures towards his arm. He's like, you're probably not going to see me for a little while, but I just want you to know I love you guys and thank you so much. Right? Yeah.

And he's got the arm hanging off his fucking body. Right. Does this sound familiar? I recall. Yeah, I recall. He goes into the back and I'm on the headset just in the writers room watching the show. Greatest experience of my life is being on the headset watching. any wrestling show it's it's it's it's it's incredible it's like it's the greatest gift i could have gotten in my life you know aside from my family obviously hey whoa that was close as a wrestling fan it was a great gift

And I hear Kevin Dunn on the headset freaking out. Is Sheena okay? What happened to Sheena? Somebody talked to me. Is she all right? And I don't know if it was... uh who got on the headset if it was striker or if it was if it was you know who who is who is the guy who was always itchy in um wcw itch He was in The Flock, and then he broke out. But he was with... What's her name for a little while? Tori Wilson? Was that her name?

oh you're talking about kidman thank you brian kidman billy kidman billy do you remember him being itchy he would always come out that was like his thing he when he would walk to the ring he would like scratch his chest It was insane. It was like his gimmick was he was itchy? I don't know. He's probably a fucking junkie or something. Who knows, man? I don't know if it was Kidman or if it was Striker. Somebody gets on the headset and just goes, KD, he's working.

And it was just like, and then no follow up the next day. Yeah. I wonder if he was, hopefully he was selling the shoulder on Raw the next day, but it was like, it was insane. It was insane for him to be like. You probably won't see me for a while. And it's just like, who okayed that? Why would you do that? I mean, what about when he ran out and was he on the steps or on top of the announce desk? And he's like, the US has captured and terminated Osama bin Laden.

I'm sure he was told to do that. He has compromised. He has been compromised. Whatever he said. That was... you know it's weird there was funny of course it came up my feed on tiktok there was like two girls who i guess they have a podcast they had never seen that clip and so like they're playing it and they're like oh my god why is john cena He's got no shirt on. And he's announcing it. Like he was sent out by the president. Right. Like Obama was, get word to Sina. You know?

It's time to announce. It's just the odd timing of things that happen. But I'm like... In my mind, I'm like, well, now play the clip of fucking Howard Cosell saying that John Lennon got murdered. I mean, it's just, this is how things happen sometimes. Yeah. Anyway. Yes.

Early Year Live Event Reviews

Oh yes, that was also the same night as the Elimination Chamber and the Coldest Winter. The GCW show at the Ukraine, which I wrote down nothing about. What, are we still in January?

we're in march now baby oh so hold on so there was battle in the valley which uh i recall was really really cool and i'm trying to think oh yeah what was the spot who there was a spot where someone got thrown oh it was uh i think it was elp just fucking launched a guy um yeah it's a shame there's no battle in the valley this year i think they're doing that

that show in newark that they've sold about 10 tickets to in in the in the massive arena yeah the new it's the new beginning but i don't know man what's what's the new beginning gonna be uh well it's it's gonna begin in a new venue uh jeff cobb versus elp oh it's cobb yes cobb fucking he launched him on the outside dude he fucking it was like

it wasn't like he even in my recollection that he like had his hands on his room he like bumped him or something you like hit him and he just fucking shot him yeah that's a great room That's a great room. As long as you're not sitting in front of dummies, it's a great, great room. Oh, man. Zack Sabre Jr. versus Hecacero?

yeah that must have been fucking amazing yeah no i mean that that show is always you know damn no matter what they uh told you in advance when you got there it was it's always a fucking banger um that's where we saw fucking buddy murphy versus okada a few years back oh yeah i've never had a i mean i was about to say i've never had a bad time in that room i've never seen a bad show in that room yeah i wouldn't even see the those dummies behind us like

The return of Jungle Boy. Come on. You never saw it coming. He's a jungle man now, dude. Let me tell you that much, buddy. You think he's a jungle boy? He's a jungle man, dude.

AEW Revolution: Top Matches

March. Yep. March was also revolution here in Los Angeles. Right. Now we're talking. Uh, I think I went through my notes and I feel like I knew that this was my favorite match of the year.

after it happened and it and it stands untested tony storm versus mariah may the hollywood ending i think that was the best match of the year i mean hey dude i'm gonna have to go with a fucking a on it you watched it after the fact i saw the pay-per-view you saw the pay-per-view on pay-per-view yes you pay per view yes well it's kind of

Every time? No. Every time you view it, you cut a check. That's why you got to call it a premium live event now because you pay once and then you can watch it for a while. You can even watch it later. You don't got to get a tape out and make sure you grab it in case you miss something or you want to watch it later. You can watch it later. I mean, that's the way. This is the way.

That was a great fucking show. Kenny Omega versus Takeshita, Will Ospreay versus Kyle Fletcher in the cage. Ospreay and Fletcher tried to follow that women's match and... You know, they're like stabbing each other with fucking screwdrivers and, you know, doing Canadian destroyers off at the top of the cage and, you know, Spanish flies into glass and taking blow torches to chainsaws.

running each other over with cars and dropping anvils on their heads. They couldn't, they couldn't, they couldn't follow it up. What about that fucking sadistic Gabe kid versus Darby Allen match from the weekend?

Wrestling Safety and Social Media

brutality dude i don't know i like gabe kid darby allen i can take or leave uh it was a spectacle but not my not why i tuned in personally but

No. I mean, it made more sense to me than... I mean, like the tag match with... Like FTR, I don't need to see in a no-holds-barred... brawl it's like that's that i mean they they can do it but i'm like ah it's a pay-per-view show with ftr i want to watch them you know do wrestling in the ring yeah that spot in that ring though when when um and then the table fell on top of him oh chuck chuck taylor's like i spent 20 years trying to be a comedy wrestler i never did one thing funnier than this

did he quite he quietly retired right we've talked about this well he was yeah he's been working backstage he just had surgery he had major neck surgery yeah you know you know what's so fucking what there was the uh william regal did a tweet about getting dropped on your head and how it's not worth it and was this after the kyle fletcher match this yeah this was like yeah you know yesterday or the day before or something right and um

you know with a picture of his neck but the x-ray of his neck and um uh but the thing i also love is like i don't come out here very often but when i feel like there's something i need to say i'll do it he's like but also i'm not i won't be coming back so like if you want to try to you know if you want to try to say shit he's like that you're wrong about like i'm not gonna you know what i mean like he's just going like go ahead and fucking

eat your eat yourselves alive in the comments i won't be back for the comments from this i'm just making my point oh i thought you meant i thought he was saying i won't come back to aew no no he's saying

He's saying, I only tweet once in a great while. He's like, I don't care what anyone else thinks. This is what I think. But of course, it became this... tribal thing right where it's like oh he's shitting on aw whatever so then you get kenny omega being like no you know regal's got a good point but it's just like all i mean to say is like him just saying like look

For these reasons, I think it's not great to get dropped on your head, right? But it has to turn into a... Of course, it has to. Of this and that. And then this morning, I see Trent, who's never serious. he said something and the guy's like oh says the guy who whatever you know and trent's like you're not gonna fuck it what hold on i gotta find this please pull it up yeah i god i love trep beretta that guy fucking slays me dude

He's just... His humor is fucking... He's very dry. Very, very funny. What the fuck is his... What's his handle? On Instagram? Yeah. No. On Twitter? Yeah. Greg loves Dustin? Probably.

I'm going to keep looking. You keep talking about the year that was while I do this. It was a year. Now we're going to go into mania. Here we go. Lay it on me. Trent said... let me tell you what i think about necks right and this guy goes with your neck made of fiberglass i'd pipe down and trek goes i broke the screws that all were holding my neck together the screws were weaker than my actual neck bones that's cool as shit you can't neck shame me motherfucker oh my god

like there's i don't think again it's it's the internet but i don't think there's any world where trent was trying to be like fuck william regal right oh god no you know what i mean like but of course that's how it's taken It doesn't matter. I've sidetracked this in a way that's unproductive. Are you kidding me? This is the kind of shit that I've been... Is this the show? This is what I've been craving all year. The year that was.

Don't forget about Mania. That was in April. I just said it's Mania. Oh. And we were live from the Westgate. Elvis's last stand.

Wrestlemania Weekend Madness

These are my notes. Some of them don't make sense anymore, so I would go back to the back issues where we discussed this. Or maybe something will ring a bell to me. Well, day one, Thursday, 11 a.m. Defy, all I wrote was, the ring announcer, LOL. Yes.

you don't remember her no she was like she was doing her best whatever the lady was that was on oh right like was just it was just horrible oh i forgot and over the top and yeah you're so right like you know it's like uh don't forget to buy some popcorn you're like all right lady all right uh we hit the buffet we went to the mark hitchcock memorial memorial super show um

I don't know what this means. Corbini was there. Oh, good. Sorry. I, I, sometimes these notes, I'm like, I know they, they only make sense in the moment, but I just wrote gasoline on the puddle dragon. And then the gold guy botched a couple of things and then almost landed on his fucking head. So lucky somebody grabbed them. No idea what that means. It's like you woke up from a dream.

We got to kick it with Fonzie. Have a couple of vodka cranberries with Alfonso. Oh, well, Vince, I got three words for you. Manny Weekend, I got three words for you. Ping, pang, pong. Ping-pang-pong, delicious meal. Delicious meal. Took the long way, but we got there, so we lost some people because they didn't want to give what it took to make it to ping-pang-pong. Dude, I forgot.

Oh, my God. Well, first of all, Ninja Mag versus Masquerade Dorada. I don't know if you recall that he Hurricane Rana Ninja down the stairs. Remember those long stairs? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In that room that wrestling will never occur in ever again. The palms. Banned. Banned. Banned. fucking butter dip got all of wrestling banned from that casino. And then he dove off the stage over like three rows on the Ninja Mac. But none of that fucking matters, dude.

And you know what? Anything I might have said to you or to anyone else about that Viva Van match, it's only because I forgot Butterbean versus Suzuki happened this year. Oh, yeah. Dude. Yep. dude holy shit holy fucking shit i forgot thank god they put notes on iphones well it's just um you know but that one is you know that just should have never been allowed buddy you know like and it definitely is it shows there's there there's no longer uh an athletic commission

Marty Jannetty, Bloodsport, WrestleCon

uh around pro wrestling because there's no way someone would have been like uh butter beans good to go like he's able to stand on his own and do whatever unreal dude yeah um you had a run with marty janetti in the bathroom no his wife that's right i never saw marty

Until I came out and they were walking away. She's like, is Marty Jannetty in there? Will you tell me to get the fuck out here? I was walking in. Hey, can you see if Marty Jannetty's in that bathroom? And I'm like, I don't feel comfortable going around and... yelling marty in there but i'll i'll take a look and then when i came out it was everything was fine i don't know where he actually was at but they were reunited so um good on them

Great Bloodsport also that day. That was the Natty Nightheart versus Miu. Yeah. And Gresham versus Zack Sabre Jr. Big time. Fucking unreal. We rode in the elevator with the guns. Very exciting. Or I guess just Austin. Just Austin and his lady. Let's see. Day two. Apparently Shane Douglas has to wait for coffee in that goddamn hotel. Bummer. It's always something with Shane. The franchise. Let's see.

WrestleCon at 9 a.m. We paid $80 to fucking hang out with the Sandman. Good Lord. Sandman, he's got some hot takes, but I'll tell you. real hot takes that's a guy you know he's like grabbing people as they go by he like he got that money yes you know oh yeah if you want to sit at your table and and hope someone stops or doesn't feel awkward or whatever sandman is out in front and he's like

Are you going to feel weird enough now that we've talked this long to not give me at least $20? He still understands his job. He's working for that money. We still got to watch that Gabe Kidd movie out of the furnace. All right.

Stardom, Sabu's Final Match, Hardys

this is your favorite movie uh let's see stardom show did that president ever recover from that attack i don't know but it caused thekla to leave the country yeah She had to fucking skip town. She had to change time zones, dude. Oh, man. Joey Janela's spring break. Sabu's final match. Final match. It's kind of weird, man. We just, through no intention on our part, just happened to attend the final appearance of Hulk Hogan and the final appearance of Sabu. Weird.

legendary legendary uh let's see of course we made it over to pops cheesesteaks that's that's it's got got to be done oh yeah in vegas we'll see you in april what does this mean all i wrote was saturday wrestlecon casey and apa And then Ron Simmons says, can you retrace your steps? Casey lost something, didn't he? I think he lost his phone. My recollection is he lost his phone.

Casey was saying when he was on the other week that he's going to seek those guys out and get a picture because they helped him however they helped him to find bradshaw too yeah they were both there and this was at their table or this was yeah because he had been over i think he was like he was maybe dealing with someone next to them or something and then he went back and was like

and and must have had the interaction of like you know what did you lose something whatever and that is true ron said was can you retrace your steps yeah like that is tremendous no i mean casey it was a It was a banner year between that and the like waiting four hours to meet Brett and yeah. And to have that full interaction around the photo that Casey had taken of, of him and everything. Give me a copy of this.

And then Casey tried to get him to go to a show in Calgary. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, send me an email. I'll be there for sure. Dude, now that I'm looking at my notes, I can't. I'm sorry I'm bringing it up again, but the Hardys are the number one tag team of the year. Do you remember how fucking rough they looked at WrestleCon? It's in my notes. Just says, Hardys, looking rough. Like at their table, you mean? Yeah!

I mean, Jeff is still a fucking draw. I didn't see enough. That line was out the door down the stairs. Oh, yeah. No, I mean, that's the thing. They stay over. But I don't know. I didn't see any of their matches this year. I can't say. shouldn't that be part of the problem like you know not if like you know if if you're in a promotion i don't watch it's not it's not your fault necessarily it is maybe yeah

Mania 41 Letdown and Live Shows

Mania 41. Bit of a letdown, honestly. What? It was. Punk Roman and Seth was great. EO, Rhea, and Bianca was great. Ooh, yeah, that was good. And then the rest of it, was this the year that Austin came out on the... the the rv and hit the woman in the front hit the wall i think it was i think he came out and ran into the fucking the barricade did you and she tried like sue and she was trying to like

do the whole like i have whiplash gimmick and then like different angles of it came up and it was like bitch you fell down before he even fucking came to the fucking wall he didn't get anywhere near you

Damn, Nick Khan will have you killed. That's right, Nick Khan had to go talk to her and smooth it over. Did I tell you that when we were... in san diego for survivor series that when we were in the superstore all of a sudden here's nick khan like three feet from me no covered i mean he had security and everything oh yeah i just turned and but people were like getting a picture you know but i was like

damn there this motherfucker is you know i should have been like tony tony tony loving aw dude tony um Well, what's old is new. I have GCW on May 3rd. I have no notes for it. I have New Japan Resurgence May 9th in Ontario. First thing it says, this is the first note. I have for Ontario. We had to move seats. Viva man sucks, but the guy behind us sucks worse. Yeah. We had to completely, thankfully.

It was a situation where they had not sold that place nearly out. And so we just walked up in the same section and sat. Like other strangers were moving too.

AEW/WWE Summer and Texas Connections

It was like there was a mass exodus from this dude. Yeah, it's a bummer, man. Double or nothing, Anarchy in the Arena, Hangman versus Osprey. Fantastic matches. I'd say if the Raw at the Intuit Dome hadn't happened, the show of the year might have been the AEW Grand Slam in Mexico, in Arena Mexico. That was just top to bottom.

outstanding show shows i guess they were there for a little bit weren't they yeah um maybe a close second place for match of the year for me uh collision january excuse me july 5th FTR versus the Outrunners. You remember that match? I do remember that match. That's a fucking fun match, dude. I was there, right?

i believe you were i believe you were but you were you were telling me about that match for like yeah like immediately you were like you gotta you gotta see this and so and then in june i that's when i went to money in the bank at into it Okay. Where R-Truth came back under a hood after he had been fired. That's right. Oh, my God. R-Truth got fired this year. Yeah. And then came back and has been a serious character. That's right. He's Ron Killings now. He came back. He's...

He's serious and he's Ron Killings. Yeah. They're like, this is what we'll do. We'll bring it back. We'll take away the shit that people liked. And then eventually we'll just, and then eventually the next time we see you, you'll just be our truth again. Um, And the next time we fire you, nobody's going to say shit. Also, this summer was the Briscoe Brothers documentary. Yes. Outstanding. I got to watch that. I'm just reminding myself again. I got to watch the Tanahashi thing. Let's see. Oh.

A rare GCW on the TV for us. We watched the boss of all bosses from Gillies in Dallas. That was the Cardona versus Shotzi match and Atticus versus Effie. okay i was there you were there and i watched it on the tube right because that was before all in that's right this was i was in houston yes yes yes yes And I seriously considered driving up to Arlington for the off chance that Kevin Von Eric would show up on time. Well, he's, he's, he's listed for WrestleCon. So.

He fucking better be. Also, if his son-in-law is there, I got a message from a guy on one of my socials that says he was a big fan of my videos and claims to be one of Kevin's son-in-laws. I don't know if... He has multiple daughters. Do they travel in mass? Does the family travel in mass? Well, you know, it's just one of those situations where it's like Jake the Snake had his kids with him or like, you know, the son-in-law.

that we interacted with or the daughter we interacted with. I think what came of that, ultimately what was revealed was the daughter was like... was a my favorite murder person she was like trying to get us by like you know by association but yes it does seem as though um because there was a phineas godwin His son-in-law came running over. Yep, yep. You know? Yep. There's always an in-law connection. There's a Maddie fan in there somewhere. Am I wrong?

Wrestling Hiatus and Continental Classic

hey whether they're a murderino or a maddie maddie tino um so yeah all in texas and dallas oh that's what i'm gonna say yeah so it's so strange because you'll remember around around there, but not exactly. There was a Tokyo Joshi. two rides right that was was like the next day like miles away but then they've been in houston but they're doing they're going to be at south by southwest and then they're doing like two other cities in texas again

In March. I don't know what the, what is Tokyo Joshi's tie to the, to Texas for whatever reason. That's they're running Texas again. Well, I don't know. Sometimes these things happen. Speaking of Kevin Von Erich, the Von Erichs were huge in Israel for some reason. It was always like... Is there like... Is there a large Japanese population in certain towns in Texas? Because it's not local TV anymore. It's not like, you know.

You know, like in Boston, people like the Von Eriks because they saw him on ESPN or some shit. Yeah. So my hope is that because I'm going to revolution this year, but I'm also going to probably end up at South by again. I'm hoping that I'm.

there for the tokyo joshi show that's at south by and then also able to get to and you're not even going to watch the show you're just going to be asking questions like what is what what is the connection what are you doing here why do you keep coming to texas i just gotta know They're like, well, you're here. Aren't you Texas local? Like, no, I live in LA. I just came here to find out. South by Southwest. But nevertheless. Nevertheless. Mixie. Let's see.

yeah man see this is what i'm talking about at least for me resurgence was in may and then i didn't step foot at a into a wrestling show again until september that is terrible September 20th, Ukraine. This was open with the cage match with Stackhouse. Which is like, oh man, you know that big motherfucker's coming off that fucking cage, dude.

a lot of fun i believe that was also the one uh yes it must have been that was where shotzi made her um ukraine culture center debut i don't know maybe maybe not but um There was one point where I'm just standing in the back and she's back at her gimmick table and I was like, she doesn't have a shirt that I like. I'm like, maybe I'll buy a sticker. I don't know. My feet hurt. I was just like...

I'm leaning against the wall. I'm like, you know, I like half wanted to tell her. I'm like, you know, it was my pitch that you be a horror host when they brought back Halloween Havoc. But I'm just like, this is too long to explain. yeah because i'm like i didn't work there i'm like and and she was i'm like and then by the time i'd sorted it all out in my head that i'm like i don't care there was a huge line and i'm like all right dang it um

Also wrote in my notes at All Out, Edge does Cena's moves. Oh, yeah. Some tributes started to go down. Some tributes started happening. Eddie Kingston returned. The return of Eddie Kingston. Always a great time. And then... Fuck, man. I was at a show in September and then I wasn't at another wrestling show until this month. Outrageous. I know I watched some. I know you probably went to some more.

maybe i mean i went to survivor series but i'm trying to think yeah uh if there was anything i don't know if there's anything and because i because september november i was pretty hemmed but um yeah so then cut to uh sunday night we got back well yeah there was the um the show the ukraine on the 6th with that clown tag team a bunch of clowns yes

And the other weird thing is Allie Katch came back this year from injury, has yet to appear at all on a GCW, I think. I don't watch them all, but yeah, I haven't heard anything about her. I don't know where she's working at. Strange. Strange to explain. Yes. I fucking love the Continental Classic. Awesome.

And it's funny. I was listening to some Meltzer Alvarez and they were like, you know, Alvarez just being like, it's at the wrong time of the year. He needs to move it to a different time of the year. And I'm like, Brian. Does he give a reason why? Because he's still in this mindset of when the show airs is when you have to watch it.

type thing because he was talking his big point was airing a show on Christmas Eve and Christmas night and then also like obviously this week there's going to be New Year's Eve right Plus some preemptions with sports, probably. Sure. And I'm like, first of all, who cares? First of all, I understand Alvarez has a family, but I'm like... There's nothing else in your life but pro wrestling. So what does it matter when it airs? Well, from a point of view, though, of going like, you know.

they need to on some level deliver a rating and and also if this is like a part of their programming for the year that's like some of their best shit why not try to do it when the most people will see it to try to i i can i can see that a little bit but which was his point he's like if they moved it to january you know it's it's there's less competition yeah but for me um

nobody cares about them i only care about me no yob i am just i love this from thanksgiving to new year's there's this fucking kick-ass tournament With all the best guys. Fuck, man. And then you put her on Mox? The newest hot baby face in the company? If Jon Moxley has made nothing clear. It is that he loves the Continental Classic and he loves the passion for this business. I feel like they're getting close to kicking him out of that group. I feel like Claudio's going to take over some shit.

He's getting cheered. He's gone soft. Renee's giving him the googly eyes. It's not like a different husband and wife.

Continental Classic: Moxley's Rise

talent combination that are chopping each other and throwing each other into the turnbuckles. Let me tell you something, dude. I was... I'm watching the pay-per-view. Obviously not when it aired. And I'm going through, I didn't skip anything. But when it got to that tag match, my initial reaction was, it was, you know, it's much like with the G1.

I'm like, oh, okay, so these are all people who are no longer in the Continental Classic tournament. They basically all, none of them have anything else to do tonight. They're going to throw them in an eight-person tag. I'm like, mm. And then it was fucking good. It might have been my favorite match of the fucking night. I mean... It was good. It was hard-hitting. It was funny. It was exciting. I mean, it was...

Tony and Orange are doing the tango. Marina and Roddy are having a domestic dispute on pay-per-view. It was outrageous. It was absolutely... Top to bottom, so goddamn entertaining. When they're doing that gimmick where the Death Riders have somebody in the corner and they are just all four of them running in at full speed in a circle.

fucking fantastic i mean it's it was one of those matches too where i'm like god wwe can't do this they can't get out of their own way and just let characters breathe They are so stringent on making moments on, oh, well, no, it's got to be this. It's got to be this way. Or certain people don't interact. Everyone's locked into their specific stories. And like, oh, we can't have these two fucking interact because people are going to want to have that match. It's like, then fucking have that match.

it was such a and that's why it felt like a New Japan style match because I'm like oh this is interesting that first of all that Tony First of all, that they're doing the mixed multi-person tag, but then teasing those, you know, man-woman spots, but then actually delivering on some of them was outstanding. But just, you know... Tony Storm tagging with that group of guys. It was great. It's a perfect example of the difference between.

those two I think it really struck me in that match I was like WWE could not do this match but it was yeah like going in you're like what's this gonna be and then it fucking was was really good it really i was like i was like oh this is a fucking placeholder and then i was like jokes on me my favorite fucking match of the night then you got old mox and uh fletcher that was a hot one

Yeah, Mox and Fletcher was fucking hot. Okada and Takeshita was fucking hot. I love that Okada had to cheat to win. and it's so funny it was then like don callis then disappeared from the building after that you know and fletcher couldn't find the fucking yeah and then fletcher couldn't find i was like oh this is great this is a great little

AEW PPVs and Ricochet vs. Bandito

You know, the cracks are forming in the Don Callis family. Yeah. I was shell-shocked when Mox won. And the way that he won, too, of, like, just that series of finishers on Okada.

to the point where i'm like he can't kick out like i'm like this is this is really going to take a dump on mox when when he kicks out and then he and then he just beat him clean i was like that was fucking fantastic and the other thing that i saw somebody pointed out is like you know now that all this happened you know mox and the death riders are the reason that don callus has a scar on his head and so don callus may fucking full court press

the Don Callis family against the Deathriders now. Very interesting. Yeah. Retribution, you know, we'll see. Oh, that's great. I mean, it is. It's funny because, like, you know, I finished it up this morning and Jack comes rolling in. He's not feeling well, not going to camp today. But he's ripping through a couple boxes of Legos.

And as, as the matches are going on, he's like, he's like, so who's the good guy? Like, like, uh, uh, like I, I picked it up on, uh, Statlander versus, um, uh, Hader. Who was, who was... Hater had a little bit of an off night. There was just a couple of, I don't know if it's her knee or her ankle or what, but it was like there was a couple of things. I'm like, oh, she couldn't.

It started with the kip up, the nip up. What do they call that? Yeah. And I was like, as soon as she didn't land it, I was like, please don't get in your head. Yeah. You know? Because that's what it felt like happened at Defy. It was like, Viva, it was going fine. It's like she's very slow going into moves and kind of stutters.

but then once there was one botch i'm like now it's dangerous now it's like somebody is is gonna get hurt but like the lucha ghoul it was the same thing he did like this back flip off the top rope and couldn't land first of all i thought he broke his fucking leg

Couldn't land it. And then the rest of the match, I was like, this guy's in his fucking head and he's going to hurt himself or somebody else. It was just a fucking... So with Jamie, I was like, God, I hope... And it was just a couple of things here and there. But I mean, Statlander is just... God, she's so fucking good. I think she is so underrated. But at any rate...

The reason I bring it up is because during that match, Jack was like, so who's the bad guy? I'm like, um, really neither of them, but, you know, Stats, the champ, and the champ is kind of always going to be the heel in a match. Sure. Yeah, man. Baby boy. I'm telling you what, dude. Another, I mean, AW, they don't fucking miss on pay-per-view. That's just the facts. It's just facts. Facts is facts.

It's so goddamn good. I loved, I mean, and then the Continental Classic in general, Speedball versus Fletcher, Claudio versus Mox, Mox versus Orange. Those are my favorites, you know. You know, I was surprised by, was it Christmas or Christmas Eve? Ricochet and Bandito. Oh, it's fucking incredible. I almost felt like it under-delivered.

I almost felt like it was one of those matches where when it was over, I was like, I feel like they were holding back. I feel like they might run this. Yeah, I was like, I feel like they may run this at a pay-per-view and go full blast. Okay.

Wrestler of the Year: Tony Storm

Hopefully it wasn't just my expectations. Maybe I had overhyped it to you. Oh, you son of a bitch. Do you have a favorite match of the year? Do you think... you could pinpoint one down. I mean, you got to see Sabu's final match. That was fucking unreal. Truly unreal. Yeah. You love that FTR and the Outrunners. I did love that match. I loved the EO match at Mania. Yeah.

probably four to six others that i'm forgetting um but this is what happens but tanahashi obviously is my wrestler of the year of the year there can be no there can be no one else unfortunately this year just because of the circumstances I don't know if she was my wrestler of the year last year, but it is timeless. Tony storm for 2025 for sure. Um, and even, and it was after the Hollywood ending, I was like,

And Mariah May leaves the territory. I'm like, God, I hope that this isn't the end of Tony. Yeah. And she just kept delivering. Every time that music hits, I'm fucking in. She had those great promos. And I love the almost like the film noir shit with the hat with her and Mina. It's fucking great. All the way up to... Just a couple of days ago, doing the tango with goddamn Orange. I mean, I'm like, this woman is fucking licensed to print money. And the interaction I had with her at WrestleCon.

It was one of the hardest I've laughed all year. Elevated. Absolutely fantastic. I've got to hang that picture up. Place of honor. Well, there you go, kids. Me and Vince will see you next year sometime. Probably on Friday we'll do some... I might not. Well, we'll talk about it. We'll talk about it. Do you want to do the Q&A now? Yeah, I want to do the Q&A now. All right. We'll do the Q&A now. All right.

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