WeWatchWrestling Issue #641 - podcast episode cover

WeWatchWrestling Issue #641

Dec 24, 20251 hr 24 min
--:--
--:--
Download Metacast podcast app
Listen to this episode in Metacast mobile app
Don't just listen to podcasts. Learn from them with transcripts, summaries, and chapters for every episode. Skim, search, and bookmark insights. Learn more

Episode description

This week Matt & Vince talk Danzig's house, Continental Classic, DEFY, RAW Vault (5/26/1997) and more!!! WWW Shirts: http://prowrestlingtees.com/wewatchwrestling Become a Patron! Bonus audio! Join the Discord! https://www.patreon.com/wewatchwrestling

Transcript

Do you watch wrestling? Greetings. Salutations. Well, friends and foes, heels and baby faces. All are welcome here at the We Watch Wrestling Podcast. I'm your wonderful darling, redheaded, bearded host, Beyond the Map, McCarthy. With me always, he's the professional wrestling encyclopedia, Mr. Vince Averill. Hi, hi, hi. Hey, hey, hey. Well, hello there. You don't see good or not good times. What's happening?

You'll catch a lot of those reruns on MeTV. Hey, hey, hey. Hey, hey, hey. She died this year. The sister? The sister, yeah. What was her name? Roz? um yes the ubiquitous um i'm doing the uh well i'm thinking about because i i was doing my top favorite christmas episodes of tv shows on the tiktok Well, well. And Good Times is going to make the list. Do you remember that? When Janet Jackson was on the show and she wanted to give Who is the Mom?

uh florida florida no but it wasn't florida it was she was she was gonna get adopted by that oh the neighbor lady yeah uh yeah and uh but she wanted to get her a bracelet for christmas but she couldn't afford it then when the the clerk's back was turned she she stole the bracelet okay but uh the people in the live studio audience lose their fucking shit. As soon as Janet Jackson starts thinking about stealing the bracelet, they fucking lose their shit.

That's how you build drama. Bro, it is such a fucking incredible moment. I can't wait to watch it again. Yeah, I'm trying to get everything done before, you know, it's the holiday season. Sure. Oh, yes. The atmospheric river's coming, Matty. Bro. Bro. Not into it. Not into it. Not feeling it. I didn't move to LA for weather, dude. I don't need weather. I just need it to be sunny and 70, and that's fine for me. Thank you. Sorry, turning off my SoundCloud.

It's all right, but you know. Did you know that first Sam Hain album that you can't find anywhere is on SoundCloud? Yeah. That's strange. If you ever want to listen to Archangel. See those pictures of Glenn Danzig's refrigerator?

oh man what a fucking it's such a strange thing that that that house it's it's just wild how often that house like comes up on my like especially when he hasn't lived there in so long no i know and it was like and for the longest time and maybe even still it just had a fence in front of it oh there is yeah it's still it must still have the chain link because there was a period of time where there was like a pile of bricks and people would jump over and

grab bricks yeah and i also remember a couple years ago when it got listed like photos of the inside began to black yeah like black carpet and And I also remember an interview. We're talking about Glenn Danzig's house that was in Los Feliz, Los Angeles. And if you didn't know any better, you walk by and just be like, this is a haunted house.

right yeah it's like you know it's basically the adams family house like in the middle of a block but uh um and not for like looking cool for looking like just yeah like this is just a shitty house there was an interview he did at some point where he also was like standing around the outside of it so you got to see like kind of around the back a little bit but anyway so it's so insane

yeah but yeah there was recently a i think on craigslist somebody put it up or they posted on reddit or something they were like the the refrigerator from glendanzig's old house is on the corner and it's and it's really gross i open it up it's fucking gross inside how could it not be and they had pictures of it and there was like some

danzig sam haynes stickers on it but also just like bumper stickers that just said porn random random a lot of random stickers on there when he decided he was going to put stickers on his fridge he didn't really give a lot of thought to it I know where I'm going to put this sticker. So weird. Yeah. Such a fucking. Yeah. I haven't seen him at a wrestling show in forever.

no i mean maybe even he got priced out because it would always be raw that i would that you know it would be like a thing at staples or crypto or whatever and he'd but it felt like he was in that vip like on the floor behind the announce table type of shit oh definitely oh right yeah so he wouldn't need to pay he would always be there with a woman who had just enough clothing on for it to be legal like you know like she had been caught in a net you know yeah like naked and they and he had like

thrown a net over her and yeah dragged her to the wrestling show yeah like inspector gadget had like shot a net out of his hat on this woman and she's not that it'd be that difficult but they were always about two feet taller than him um

and would have heels on like that's in flats that was the other thing about Danzig at wrestling shows you know being a smaller guy like I just remember because you know once you see somebody like that you kind of like tracking them a little bit yeah and he would never stand up you know no you're right like everybody be standing for something he's like i'm fucking glenn danzig dude i'm not standing up what am i gonna do stand in my chair

climb on my girl's shoulders. Maybe that's what it was. He just was like, I'm not going to be able to see anything anyway. I just went to like, I'm too cool to stand up, but that's maybe what it was. No, I'm sure that's what he wants you to think. It would always be funny seeing what would make him pop. He wouldn't even cheer. He would just start laughing. He's just like, oh, that's fucking great. Yeah. Three liter bottle of Mountain Dew. Yams!

I haven't seen fucking... God, now I can't. Rick Rubin. I kept wanting to say Roy Orbison. Well, both are true. I haven't seen Roy Orbison at a wrestling show. Rubin, you don't... i've seen him let's see i think he was he was at uh money in the bank this year at uh whatever you call it down there into a dome and then i guess mania maybe was the last time we both would have seen him but

He's big match Rick. Let's big match Rick. Even though he's watching 14 hours a week at home, so he must be watching some smaller stuff. Maybe he's loving this new Juggalo Championship run on YouTube with Russo at the helm. Maybe he's loving that. He was a fixture. Oh, yeah. Do you think him and Cornette still talk? No, I do not. I mean, not out of any animosity necessarily. I just wouldn't have anything to talk about.

Maybe a Christmas card or a text. Do you think Jim Cornette has Rick Rubin's phone number? I'm sure he has... a phone number right that's what i'm i was sort of like does he have to change his phone number does he have the phone number yeah the direct line um yeah like did rick rubin reach out when cornet's dog passed away that kind of thing or yeah i don't wonder old business partners cornet's dog died

oh that was that was a bit ago yeah oh like but it was this year i think but it's been a little bit yeah okay um i mean god forbid you try to call michael hayes every time one of his dogs dies i mean you couldn't keep up i mean to the point that When I listened to a little clip of him talking about CM Punk's dog dying, he was not able to keep it together. Cornette? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. I thought we were almost finished.

Good golly, Miss Molly. Now I got to talk about a fucking dog dying. Were you able to watch any of that Tanahashi video I sent you? No. how long is it it needs to be it's an hour it needs to be taught in schools that thing needs to me if i was a substitute teacher i would be rolling in the fucking i would be pulling the screen down and telling everyone to sit down and shut up

uh we're gonna watch a movie today when i dropped him off on friday last week i was like i was like there's no way you guys are gonna be doing anything it's the last day before before vacation it's a half day and i'm like in my day they would have They had a TV set welded to the top of like a rickety push cart that had a VCR below it.

and my god we would watch a movie i'm like has that ever happened to you school and he's like no never showed me a movie or maybe you know or you might get a worksheet or something you know some something but you know uh this the new japan put out a video on youtube on their youtube it's it is the complete history of uh tanahashi in new japan pro wrestling it's an hour long it's with um

one of the not charlton but the other guy doing uh explaining everything in english it's it's fucking perfect they should do it for like all of their you know they should just start cranking these out the whole roster i mean well i mean at least for like tenured guys yeah or like the big the big stars like go go back and do fucking muda do you know like it's just and you said it's in english yes

and it's it's incredible i mean i think i just think it's really well done of course i love it it's tanahashi but it wouldn't it's one of those things where it wouldn't really matter because you're just going like oh okay like it's just breaking down every single fucking big moment of the person's like entire time you know I didn't realize Tanahashi tried out three times before he got accepted into the dojo. Really? Yeah. We're talking about one in 100 years. So don't, don't stop trying folks.

You can give up. You can give up. Never give up. Never give up. But don't stop trying. It's incredible that Tanahashi was the one who never gives up. Whereas Cena... He lucked into it by freestyle rapping on a bus in front of Stephanie McMahon. There are just so many routes to success, and that's what will frustrate a person, but it's also what should keep you going.

Because you just don't know. Anything can happen. Anything can happen in the sport of professional wrestling and many other areas of life. Most areas of life, anything can happen. I mean, I got an email from Barry Blostein. I'm trying to put together a fucking screening of Beyond the Mat, dude. We're working on it. 2026 is going to be huge for us. Kayfabe. It's long overdue.

Once we realized that transcribing it to have a table read was a monumental task that could not be completed. Like, oh, God. You know what I did?

first of all i apologize everybody it was my fault that the show was so late last week i just completely forgot to uh send it to rob but um in looking at something else um i realized that at least on spotify are the show is just transcribed in real time you know like if you if you start playing oh yeah that's a thing that happens just like so strange to me You can do that with... I have some voice memos where... Because when I record a set, it's beneficial in so much that...

Like when we were in Brea this past weekend, I was like, oh God, what jokes did I do last time we were here? And, you know, I don't feel like listening to the whole fucking set, but I can scroll through a really, really bad transcription.

uh but get a sense of oh that's what this bit is okay yeah yeah getting the gist brother getting the gist let me tell you something dude um but i you know i remain hopeful that Tanahashi can get up one last time and that this match will be fucking good I think so I think whatever it is he does he's gonna do it three times over and I mean to prepare for a match to

If it's the Vince McMahon giant cortisone shots into his hips or if it's God knows what. The only thing that troubles me... slightly it's just that he's been working constantly you know what i mean like he just had a match well but like you know but that's good good and bad right no i i think that that only helps him

Because we've heard it time and again, too much time off is not a good thing. It winds up, then you start feeling the injuries. Then you start feeling the ring rust. Yeah. I mean, I guess when we're talking about a complete... you know, skeletal breakdown though, you know, you have to think of it in other terms. This isn't like, you know, he's got a osteoporosis, just a one in a hundred. One in a hundred.

I feel terrible. One out of every hundred bones is hollow. It's got problems, dude. No doubt. There's still a chance. There's still a chance you go to Japan. Well, you know what? You know what I did do? There's no way I'm going to Japan, but I did buy one very cheap ticket to the show. So I have a ticket.

i have a ticket for tanahashi's last match but now do they send you an actual ticket in the mail yeah this i mean it's just like a little printed it's not like anything nice it's not like a like a piece of cardboard like we used to get with like like a picture or something cool like you sometimes see uh it's just like uh but i also bought it through um like one of the other service i didn't buy it um

from wherever New Japan originally directed me. I went through some other site. Because the New Japan one was going to make you pick it up. so i was like if i want to get a ticket i have to buy it from these people so they'll be able to take it that's all we've got people on the we've got boots on the ground in tokyo you could oh well let me let me right now i'm gonna i will sing the praises of this individual later but mike in tokyo is is right now and has been working with me

collecting every item that i i'm like hey man grab that can you please grab beautiful and so you know bless up mike in tokyo is a fucking he was just his birthday that's right happy birthday We love you and we respect you, Mike. I think with the time change, it's still his birthday here in the United States. Because what am I going to do? Send Ashley and Jerry over there with an extra suitcase just for me? Can't do that. That's not fair.

Well, you know, I mean, if Jerry would maybe be less selfish and pack, you know, five less pairs of shoes loafers. Yeah, he's wearing all loafers over there. He told you that right all over all the time. He loves the ones where you put the little penny in there. I'm like, are those real pennies? That's what they call them. They call them Jerry Loafer. Yeah, they do. They all do it.

Every single one of them. What's up with this MJF son of a bitch? Who does he think he is? I guess he's got that. He has the ability to insert himself. He has the contract. Glenn Danzig shows up to more shows than this guy. Well, the thing is that MJF is one of our finest actors, and so he's busy making film. Yeah, so what's he in now?

It's hilarious that he got cut out of Ironclaw, but you do see him running the ropes. But then he had a big star turn in Happy Gilmore 2. That I did not watch. I didn't either, but I just know that he played one of... happy sons or something um and then he he whatever this movie was i don't i knew at one point of course yeah but uh

Is it the girl on the third floor? I think that's the movie you're trying to think of. I know previously there was some talk of him having some... work done in turkey in and around the top of his head but when he showed up the other night it was like he had had his whole head switched out like it was just a different

maybe it's got some new product or something or i know i heard mjf died and they replaced him with a different mjf okay see this is yeah because on the monkey bars that's where i was told this right or were you at the swings when you heard that Hi, man. I was in my neighborhood. I think we were on bikes. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Building a jump. That's not the ultimate warrior. The real ultimate warrior died. A replacement with a different MJF.

uh yeah anyway uh yeah so that's that's fine you know it's like it's one of those things where you know this they're gonna do a fucking every every other not every other maybe every third or fourth pay-per-view you gotta just do a a title match with several people just to kind of well yeah he's just to keep it fresh

Well, just to keep everything else fresh, you kind of just be like, all right, we'll just do it this. I mean, not that they don't have a plan out of it, but whenever I see it turn into like a four person, you're just like, okay, well, this is kind of a...

it feels like a placeholder to me well not only does it feel like a placeholder it's um we we have marquee people that we don't want to eat the pin uh and we also don't want to do the you know, I mean, we'll, we'll get to it with the raw vault, but like there was, I straight out of Cody versus, um, What's his name? Luca Brazzi. Who's the guy from NXT he wrestled? Oh, the other day? Obafemi. Obafemi.

That finish of just, it just happened on a 1997 Raw where there's a perfectly good match going along. And now, oh, now at this point in the match.

people are going to run in and interfere and just end the match like they don't do that in aew you know well i mean and also just on last night's raw it's like they need to rename that show raw as interference because they got no problem doing it like in like three matches in a row they'll just fucking have it's fucking it i mean it's like how do no wonder people go to wwe shows and don't give a shit about the fucking the match itself you know yeah

god in heaven uh the triple a show was cool though what was that there was a triple a show uh over the weekend that they um they always just for some reason are are free on the youtube but you had uh dragon lee versus bakingo which was dope and you had um oh dude first of all ray mysterio was in a match against his son

uh not a one-on-one it was a tag match on the triple a show and then he wrestled again last night i mean talk about a guy who he's looking pretty spry all of a sudden he looked pretty good in both matches to me grandma are you spry He's, I mean, just per capita, he has to be wrestling the longest of anybody, certainly that's still active.

But like, I wonder if you could like, because compared to the time when he's the age that he started and the age that he is now, I mean, I suppose if you want to factor in injury time or semi-retirement time.

like fuck man and he can still go that's the crazy thing yeah cartwheel uh had a good showing and um you know it's uh on on the triple a shows graves is completely fine to me like does does a fine job uh you got conan who i don't like anymore but uh you don't like him anymore i mean i think he's just a dickhead but but you know in that environment he he adds a little bit and then for some reason they've now added JBL to the mix JBL I don't like but it just it's also that thing of like you know

It looks a little different somehow than the other WWE shows, thankfully. And the crowd is fucking hot. And the matches are good. It's a good little package.

ah dominic's hurt huh uh has he been hurt well no so he got i guess he got hurt in this match uh like maybe popped his shoulder out or something good so i don't know because i guess that you know could be a couple weeks or it could be a long time or something allegedly but um the other thing i will say about the triple a show every time i see this the current la parka

it's jarring there's la parka has never been a tall skinny guy and now la parka is this tall skinny guy and i'm like oh man you know it's the third la parka right yeah as far as i know because there was la parka then there was la park and then i think this la park who is la parka right it's one of the things like where it's like kemanito

yeah and then he left and had to spell it with a q or whatever because and then mll was you know that's our gimmick you can't and then la parka died well now you're gonna See, don't expose the encyclopedia. What you want to do is try to put the encyclopedia in a place where he can look good. Hey, man. I'm trying. Which one did we talk to? Which one is scared of skeletons or whatever? L.A. Park. We talked to L.A. Park.

All I know is none of them were skinny. That's all I can tell you about it. No. No, they were not. Oh, I moved my LA park. I mean, I would love a room. in a home that's just like it looks like a like a diner where it's just like all these fucking eight by tens you already have a video store hey man i want it all because i want it all

Did you see that clip of, speaking of Rey Mysterio, of Rob Reiner and Nick Reiner talking about wrestling? Somebody asked. It was some Q&A when they, because they like wrote.

or he wrote a nick reiner wrote a movie that rob reiner directed or produced or something yep um and i guess on that press tour somebody i don't know i don't know how it came up if it was just straight up somebody asking who like if they were talking about andre the giant and the princess bride or if it was like somebody stealing our gimmick just going to q and a's and asking who's your favorite wrestler i did see i did see something with this yeah

And it was like, I mean, it was terrific hearing Rob Reiner. It was like, oh, this guy actually watched quite a bit of wrestling. Because he's like trying to describe Rey Mysterio's finishing move. And he does the 609 where he runs and he comes. No, no, the 619. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The 619. Yes, yes, yes. It was a great clip. yeah i mean i can i could picture rob briner taking his uh taking his kids to the show i saw oh there was that other clip too of of

Adam Sandler talking to Norm MacDonald about wrestling. Mm-hmm. Had you seen that before? Well, not that I remember. Well, stop. Why do you keep... You insist on exposing yourself. No, I mean, it's a pretty well-known fact that my brain isn't good in some respects. You could play it cool, though. You could be like, yeah, I don't know, and then just... It's a great clip where they're talking about... Great clips. Great clips. That's where I get my hair cut at. Because the longest yard...

which I realized I don't think I've watched the Adam Sandler longest yard. Big star turn for Kevin Nash. Yeah, Kevin Nash and Goldberg. Stone Cold was in there, right? Yeah, I was about to say. I think Stone Cold's in it too. And they got to talking about wrestling. And Norm MacDonald was talking about going to... His favorite wrestler was...

First of all, it was great hearing him pronounce the French-Canadian wrestler's names with a proper French accent. Totally. Because he's like Mad Dog Vachon. and uh edward compatier but the way he tells the story about like he's like yeah you know this is back in the day they didn't have a lot of big flashy moves with this guy uh He would climb up on the top rope and do a backflip over the guy and then just punch him in the face. But he was at a show where they had put the ring on the ice.

oh yeah which is insane to me well especially if you didn't also like i i've been to plenty of shows where it was on the ice but they put down the boards you know so you're like sure they put down the boards but it was like there was ice exposed somewhere see that's what makes no sense to me that makes no sense because you're gonna fuck up the ice used to go to like joe lewis you know and you'd be like oh it's weird you're kind of walking on like it almost it looked like car

board it wasn't but it would be cold and you'd be like oh the ice is underneath here but there was never like oh and then if you just go back far enough there's just ice and the goal was still there he said right are we to assume though that this was Things were different in the 60s or 70s, perhaps? Well, I mean, maybe they were like, because he said there was a game that night or something. They were like, ah, fuck it. Yeah, they were like, we don't have time to pull it all up.

I mean, I don't know at what point the Zamboni became a thing either. You know, if they were like, well, we'll just fucking Zamboni it as soon as the show's over. Yeah, I mean, was there, I guess we could ask Coho, but it's like, was there a time when the ice was just fucked up? let's ask google oh ask fucking i don't google shit i coho shit i put it at Any question I have, I put it into my Koharski. And just hope he's sober when he gets the question. Wow. Then why bother? Oh, shit. Okay.

because obviously at some point the ice was fucked up and it was like they were like we got to do something so well so what i'm wondering is right uh It says that when Frank Zamboni invented it in 1949, it drastically cut resurfacing time from 90 minutes to 15 minutes. So maybe they were just like spraying the ice with a hose and letting it refreeze. But.

that's uh i'm trying to i don't want to keep putting you on the spot but i was about to ask what does the zamboni even do oh so the zamboni uh it kind of well it hold on it It drives around and it's putting water down. It puts a layer of water on the top of the ice so then it refreezes and becomes smooth. Any little chips get filled in. you know it's and it's got like a little fan or a little like uh you know like a rubber kind of squeegee in the water just smooths the ice over

They must have just gone out there with a host. Man, I'm going to the Kings game tonight. I'm going to see two of them because they run two now, which has been for a while. I can't see a Zamboni without. The music from Sega Genesis NHL hockey playing in my head. I was just one of my 25 streaming services. I just saw that you can watch Strange Brew. It's been a minute.

Oh. You know, you cannot watch the Christmas episode of Doogie Howser. Well. I mean, you could if you were at my house, but not... not on your precious disney plus vince we've got uh you know how precious disney plus is to me stop uh we've i think we've fucking golem over there with his roku remote like it is my precious

we we have whittled down to the the final competitors of the continental classic for because you know the pay-per-view is saturday right world's end coming up on saturday then we've got the big defy show on Sunday. That's at the lodge room. That's live and in person. Three more tickets have sold. They can't cancel us now. Jeffrey Shrack wants a pat on the back because he's going to a wrestling show. Give Shrack a pat on the back.

Give him a back pat for Shrek. I'll think about it. Give him a pat on Shrek back. Shrek back mountain. I reposted it on our fucking Instagram last week just trying to help the cause. Because I saw him and Alex over the weekend and he's like, do you think there's still seats? And I'm like, oh boy, there's probably still front row seats. let's do it let's do an update on uh but yeah so who we've whittled it down right moxley uh fletcher

Moxley's having a hell of a showing. I tell you, though, the three-hour Dynamite, it's like... that's that's when you get some of those like moxley filler promos where you're like oh no no man he's just fucking he's not talking about anything he's just talking about how much he likes the continental classic and i'm like this is no good

When he's directionless, it's... Can't have it. No. It's almost like a Moxley babyface promo where you're just like, come on, man. Just talk about how much you like hurting people. Don't... Ah, Okada and Takeshita. on a collision course babe they both need to stay healthy for the fucking dome he's us go easy boys go easy they need to stay healthy for that plane ride hopefully they they

They fly, you know. They better be laying down. Nah, they're probably in the exit row. Hoping that someone else doesn't show up so they can lay down. over the three seats that happened to me once that happened to me one time when i was working at wwe and so like we're flying on wednesday and i was like it was like a dream come true and then when i was doing it i was like man this fucking sucks

It was like the worst tease in the world because I'm like, this is not comfortable. We had the big Georgia holiday party over the weekend and her one cousin who's like 20-something. She's like, yeah, I'm taking the red eye to New York, back to New York tonight. I'm like, it's a young person's game. Fuck that, dude. Not good. God. Although I'll say the other thing about flying a red eye that.

if i had to do it now would not you know typically a red eye for me in my younger days would also mean that i was either oh yeah drunk or or worst case i remember one time flying back maybe it was even after one of our shows we did in ipsy or something you know you're you're on the come down i remember i'm playing going back to new york on the come down and just like oh someone kill me kill me

Yeah. No, you just got to be drinking the whole time. You got to maintain. Did I ever tell you this story? My buddy in Rhode Island was telling me he took... And this isn't a guy who, like, he likes throwing back beers. But, like, he's not looking to fucking, you know, go crazy. And somebody gave him a...

I don't know what he took before the flight, like an Ambien or something just to zonk out on the flight. Yeah, yeah. And he said he took it as he's boarding. And he said the next thing he remembers. was the stewardess saying, Vin, Vin. And as he's telling me this, I'm like, oh my God, she knew your name? He's like, she knew my name. Oh, that don't sound like the Vin McGinn I know.

I didn't say it was Vid McGinn. It's just somebody named Vin. And she's like, Vin, Vin, you got to put the beer away.

and he's just like he's like he comes out of it he's like what is going on they're they're landing or maybe they had even landed but he has like a can of beer in his hand and he's like no idea what was happening but it was a can of beer that was provided on the flight or he had produced from some no there's no way he brought a can of beer with him all right okay never say never in this business but i mean i can't remember the last time i was fucking drinking on a plane but it's like

i don't do it anymore ever since i even though my the time i passed out had nothing to do with drinking i don't think i was drinking on that flight i just was like you know i just don't drink on planes anymore but

Well, you know. I remember this was early in sobriety too. I remember the first time. This must have been like right after Sib left the show because we... suddenly like our travel was upgraded so we were like in a first class deal yeah oh yeah no i know i i remember this yeah and the when you go three to two there's the budget goes up yeah and she comes around and it was like you know it was all free drinks and i was so miserable it was my first time in first class in sobriety and i was like

I'd rather be a fucking coach. Like dangling the free drinks. No, this was a me problem, obviously. But I was like, I'd rather be stuffed in the overhead compartment than have the opportunity to drink free drinks and I'm not going to. I wasn't drinking was I? Buddy you think I fucking was paying attention to what you were doing?

Well, I mean, it could, you know, could have been like you're sitting next to your buddy. He's it's not. No, no, I've never had a problem being the Sandman. I'm doing the Sandman next to you. And you're like, no. I've never, Sib seemed, I shouldn't speak for anybody else, but I never had a problem being around people that were boozing. I really never did. But it was the opportunity to booze for free.

that i was like fuck yeah like because you because my my old mindset was oh you're basically telling me i can drink as much as i want with impunity which as i think anybody would would agree is not true whether whether money's a factor or not right we've got that defy the the defy ticket update and it's a good one it's a good one so um interestingly enough this is always uh an interesting thing to me so you know the stage usually is like a hot spot but the the stage uh still a few

front rows available there for folks and then it completely jumps over the second row no one wants to touch that second row but then it becomes twenty dollars cheaper so the third row of the stage is pretty eaten up uh as we go down to ringside you know most of um you know not i would say uh two-thirds don't hold me to that of the the two rows that are available on the floor because i think after that it becomes standing room

um it's like you know it's like the middle the middle of the first two rows is pretty much gone everywhere you know and then you got a few you know plenty of seats still but and where are we we're front row but On the stage or on the floor? On the floor. And oddly enough, I'm looking at where our seats stop, and someone bought one seat next to us.

So if we want to add anybody, they're going to have to either talk that person into switching or just be happy to be one person, one stranger removed from the crew. No, I think I'm going to need that seat in case I want to lay down. like on an airplane. Well, you're going to have to talk to that person because it's their seat. I don't know who they are. No, they'll move. Maybe it'll be hot tub. You'll be in luck. It'll be your buddy hot tub.

God, I love the Continental Classic. You know what I was doing? Because I got this black and white TV set up in the kitchen. I got the Roku plugged into it. Which, you know, baffles some people's minds. Well, lucky for you, Roku is one of the places that you can get New Japan World, so you can even watch Tokyo Dome on your black and white TV if you want. It really enhances the... I mean, look, because the other night when I turned it on...

And it's Moxley and Roderick. Roderick Strong! And I was just like, of all the people, I'm like, these two belong on a fucking...

13 inch black and white tv it was just perfect what's the origin of this i mean what the tv the fact that it can uh accept a roku what is it like the last black and white tv ever made or something or no this is this is a um an rca solid state from 1977 but it's got the um you know like the i forget what they're called but like the two prongs that you can screw on yep so then that

plug a coax in and then i have a uh hdmi to rf converter last one i got was fucking it was the converter went out i was like like as i'm watching i was like oh fuck i'm like this fucking tv and i'm like wait a second now this tv is a solid piece of equipment it's this goddamn piece of little converter i bought so i got a different one

This one has a name branch stamped on it, so now I can complain to somebody if it shorts out, but so far, so good. But it's great. I got the... I got the setup in there, so I'm watching... I mean, at first, I was like, I got to rewind this, because I was... I see the Bucks and Kenny coming out, but I don't hear...

carry on my wayward son so i'm like wait did i miss something and sure enough i did the the bucks came out to the to the the being the elite music which i was like holy shit well they got their buddy back Uh, I wonder. So as we look at this, yes, who do we, I still think, I guess Fletcher's still the favorite in my mind. Oh, he's gotta be. But then it creates that obvious problem of now it's Fletcher versus Okada. These are dojo mates. Yeah, I mean, Okada...

Fletcher and Okada. Dojo mates. What are you talking about? They're family members. I was thinking of the dojo. So in your mind, Okada beats the IWGP champion. And then loses to Kyle Fletcher. Is that what we're talking here? Are you still there? I'm trying to. Cash is not even the IWGP champion anymore. I mean, I don't know who they would put the belt on. Goto. It's always Goto. If you're wondering, it ends up being Goto. He is their go-to. Go-to for Goto.

That's a mistake. What is? Me? No, Godot stinks. Hold on. I think he's going to do real well in the Street Fighter movie. But he doesn't have the Cody hair. Nobody. Not even Cody should have their Cody hair. I mean, that movie looks insane. Did you watch the trailer? Why am I doubting myself? Please. Oh, I thought you meant after. Oh, never mind. No, no. I mean, Takeshita is wrestling Yodosuji. Right. But I'm just saying.

If Okada's going on in your mind to fight Fletcher, that means he has to beat Takeshita. But those two have such a beef right now. to question Okada they can't get along even though Don Callis trying his best to massage that situation it really feels I mean it's at the point now where One is one who observes the wrestling, and I'm nothing if not a wrestling observer. Okada's the heel and Takeshi's the baby face. Would you agree to that?

Would you agree that Takeshita seems to be a babyface who is stuck in a heel faction right now? I feel that. Right? I feel that. And... It feels as though when the split finally does happen, Don Callis would turn on Takeshita. I'm almost wondering if they're drawing this thing out to the point where... He turns on Okada, and Okada becomes the fucking baby face, and Takeshi becomes the heel. Hard to say. It's hard to say. It did make me wonder, and this is, you know.

obviously completely unrelated to however you feel about uh carrying cross killer cross but i wonder if that impacted at all them him and uh his and scarlet coming to aw because scarlet is the one I believe that there was the accusations around Don Callis with some inappropriate behavior in TNA with her. Oh, really? I wonder if they were like, yeah, we're not coming over there.

because don callis is a little too high up on the card and he you know um did some bad shit over there allegedly but who knows well was he a sex best uh well i mean worse than that let's see let's find out let's get you're gonna ask jamie kowarski i'm gonna get kowarski on the phone right now um Well, hopefully he's drunk. Don or... All of us. Why can't I do it? I can't get my thumb to do the... Oh, wait. It was working for a second.

Those of you watching on the Patreon, I'm about to have your minds blown by my thumbs up emoji. Do they see that on the video? What's that? When the... When the emoji reaction goes up. Oh, I don't know. That's interesting. Giving you a big thumbs up. Now you're getting a big thumbs down. Uh-oh.

yeah i don't know there's there's there's a it's more than that that whatever it was it was that he had like assaulted her oh jesus and that's when they and that's when cross and and scarlet left tna uh but anyway um so you know everyone rose you know uh better to assume better to assume someone's a piece of shit than oh dude so check this out uh me and my brother went to red lion on sunday and we were sitting up in that like back area and um there were these three um armenian dudes

who i i heard them first and this is like one o'clock uh i heard them first and then they walked past us and it was one of those things where i was like i don't want anything to do with these guys like these are these are these guys are drunk but they're also like some some fuckers dude like i don't want any trouble with these guys

And then they come back. I don't know if they all went to the bathroom together or what. They all come back. That's weird. Why would three guys go to the bathroom together? Well, I don't even know if you could do anything in the red line bathroom. It's so small.

uh you know you know if you got a you got a car key and a little baggie you don't need much room but um they come back by and the third guy in the line he goes to us look can i get you around let me get you around and i'm like oh you know she just took our order just like she just did it so thank you and then we're all set he goes let me get you around and he starts doing this like almost like the

The symbol for like a catch in football, like if the ref's like, it's a completed pass. He's going, let me get you around. And I'm like, we're cool. And he goes, do you know what this means? And I go, I don't. And he goes, white power. And I was like, I go, all right. And then he turns as he's kind of walking away. He goes, it was supposed to be funny. And I'm like, all right.

and then my brother looks at me he goes let's finish these and leave and i was like i go a 100 like now that we've had an interaction with them and it didn't go well i'm like i'm not sticking around these guys are like i was just like fuck this we just we drank those beers and fucking hopped in the car and went to another location jesus christ dude i'm just like what are you talking about very strange uh

Yeah. Anyway, sidebar. Did you let them know? You're like, hey, man, I grew up in Michigan. I know the white power symbols, dude. I go, listen, dude, that ain't one of them. That is a fair catch or that is the reception. That's an NFL. Jesus Christ. That was. but i'm also like what are you yeah i'm like this yeah what any sense to me and also what are you why are you doing it while you say let me get you another round what's going on yeah i love that russell's like let's get the fuck

out of here yeah he's like i don't want to stay around for this i'm like yeah you're right fuck dude uh no thank you uh now what about um uh you know the uh the two one of them wrestled on raw last night the pete dunn americano royal americano uh it's gonna wrap that thing up It's so crazy how like him and Tyler Bate, just those, the masks just, they do. And the gear just, you're just like.

oh that's who that is you know like every time i'm like oh it is a it's a pretty good masking tool a mask tyler bait big pete holmes fan oh yeah Didn't I tell you that? Yeah, I'm pretty sure. It's unfortunate that Kevin Owens, he's just a little too expensive on Cameo. I'd love to get him a Cameo to once again tell you that you suck. So does Pete Holmes. Money's no object when it comes to...

Kevin Owens telling people that they suck. If he saw that message, he would probably be like, you know what? Refund. This one's on the house. Yeah, I bet. He remembers. What was I going to say? Oh, they got to wrap that up. The Americanos. This feels like one of those things when...

Like when, and we'll get to the raw vault in a moment. I feel like they're just waiting for Gable to come back. Gable's training to come back. He's going to come back and he's going to tear that mask off of, uh, Ludwig. It's such a... You want to talk about a fucking placeholder. It just feels so dead in the water. But it feels like one of those things where I'm like...

It's like when you watch old raws and you see the people that are in like the placeholder shit. Like, like if you watched a raw from like 15 years ago or something. Yeah. 10 years ago and you're like oh my god epico and primo when they were dressed like the bullfighters sir you know or like uh or when or

Even in between that, when they were like, are they real estate guys? They would just cut these promos about Puerto Rico. The tourism board. When you see... jesse james still as the the roadie and billy gunn as rockabilly he's just like oh my god i could see that because they they that that trio wrestled on the triple a show i could see them just you know

I mean, obviously they're, they're using on raw still, but it could just float down and just be, you know, well, it just, a thing it maybe, I mean, possibly, definitely possibly. anything's definitely possible in this business it just feels like such a placeholder thing when you see like it again it feels like watching an old raw and you're like oh my god look he's still wearing that uh

It's like when you see fucking Tozawa on a match and he's still dressed like an American Alpha thing or something. You're like, oh, wait. They haven't given him a new gimmick yet.

like when you see uh i don't know if we've i'm i think i'm ahead on my raw ball but uh probably when you uh when you see tajiri just in some blue trunks and they're calling him Tajiri Yoshihiro so they're referring to him as Yoshihiro yeah and he's like got his little haircut and his little yeah like if you're watching Cesaro and he's wearing like the rugby gear he's got paper towels taped around his thighs yes Shit. You've got to be joking me. I suppose we can go into the raw vault. I suppose.

WWE Raw. May 26th, 1997. On Netflix. They are in Evansville, Indiana, which is McMahon's excuse constantly. Or Jim Ross might bring it up, too. I mean, I'm jumping ahead of myself. We'll just go in order. Vince McMahon and Jim Ross on the ones and twos. We got Stone Cold Music. We got Bret Hart. We got Shawn Michaels Music. Sean is wearing a Homer Simpson t-shirt, which is hilarious. Apropos. It's wild seeing... So timely. Sean looks different now, obviously. But Sean always...

kind of looked the same. He had those distinct eras where he came back, he's got the Dutch boy, and now he's in his Harry and the Hendersons era. Yes. But Stone Cold... There was always these subtle changes. And I feel like it's because he's on the fast track to breaking his neck. But he looks so young and svelte in the face. You know what I mean?

uh sean stone cold stone cold yeah sean looks the same sean from like 93 until like as soon as he you know shed yeah sensational sherry all the way until retirement or not retirement but all the way until like early 98 i'm like sean looks like sean yeah yeah stone cold because he also i don't know if this is after the neck but he he puffed up right and and i don't think that was after the neck yeah and i think that also may have been um because that's like prime time he may he may have been

like bulking to cut so he's like putting the mass on yeah and then and then getting it dialed because he there yeah there's there's some photos of him like not fatted by any means but just like no puffed up puffed up dude yeah fluffy Fluffy on good groceries. Also, strange at one point when he comes out, Vince says something on the commentary where he's like, no matter how much he cheats, the fans love him. And I'm like, that is...

I don't recall Stone Cold being a big cheater in this era. You know? No. After the double turn, he was... a badass baby face yeah but I don't know it's like he would have never said that about Hogan Hogan who was a fucking cheater you know that's weird So they're in the ring. Jim Ross interviews them while challenging for the tag belts that night. They're doing the strange bedfellows gimmick, which is a great. This is a great little like, you know, it's like a.

It's a TV angle. It's something to do with two top guys. I'm like, you know what? This is perfect. LOD music hits. They come down. They want title shots if they win. strange you get to hear off mic but the camera's close enough that you pick up the dialogue between Sean and Hawk and it's very Hawk is like he's staying In that unreasonable. Badass road warrior thing. But he's also being like. If you win. If you win. We want a championship match. If you win.

And we can assume that Stone Cold and Animal are having the exact same conversation on the other side of the ring, but we're not privy to the audio. Anyway. They pose, and then we hear... Heart Foundation music. The whole crew comes out on the stage. Then they go to commercial. They come back. No, Sean and...

Stone Cold are gone. The LOD are still in the ring and the Heart Foundation is gone. They play the Heart Foundation's entrance music again and they come back out onto the stage. It's wholly bizarre. They try to cover it up on the... announcers by being like the heart foundation didn't like that sean and stone cold were out there so they left and now they're back so weird they also keep pushing that this is pillman's first

I don't know if they said it's his first match in the WWF or his first match on Raw. I assume Raw because at a different point, they show like a clip of him on Shotgun Saturday Night Wrestling, which I'm like, all right, well, then that... Then it must be his first match on Raw. Yeah. Or at least his first match. It's his ankles fused. That's for sure. At this point, you know, and he's what is this? May.

So he's like five months away from his untimely demise. And I was watching him like a hawk where I'm just like watching, watching him run. and i'm like because there's no because he can't bend his ankle right and i'm like and somehow i'm like he's i don't know how he's doing it a lot of pills i mean yeah he's he's fucking revved up by goof juice. Let's see. The whole thing ends in a schmoz. You know, I just, I feel like Bulldog and Owen.

should come down. So it's Anvil and Pillman wrestling. Also odd seeing Anvil wrestling in this era because it was just... You gotta have Jim in there. You got to have Jim in there. He's part of the package of the Hart Foundation, but it is. And again, Jesus Christ, Jim Ross from the Bill Watts School of Wrestling announcing. Yeah. Spends the whole time just being like. Well, he got that name Anvil because he threw the anvil and he was, you know, the top.

Top champion in the Calgary Stampede. And Brian Pillman played for this. And Jim Anvil, he never played a day of football in his life, but he was invited to a Dallas Cowboy camp. It's just like, shut the fuck up. you know uh i was just reminded the other thing that i watched that was cool uh was the the chris van vliet interview with todd gresham that's a real fucking hour of gresham telling it

I'm telling it like it was. Really? Yeah. Okay. I'll get into that. I mean, look, these factoids are interesting, but it's... Relentless. It's all Jim Ross talks about. It's relentless. Anyway. Whole thing ends in schmoz. We got an ad for... super soakers with Sonny. It's like, it is amazing she still has a job. Sable. The rise of Sable. Feels like Sable's taking my spot.

We got a Paul Bearer promo. This is, again, a very bizarre and brief era for Paul Bearer. He's got the red hair and no mustache and no spooky voice. So he's Percival Pringle III at this point. Sure. He's been burnt by The Undertaker, and he's going to reveal Undertaker's big secret. We get the... Nation of Domination Music. Bob Holly, Sparkpluck Bob Holly versus D'Lo Brown. This is wholly uncomfortable. Farouk is on commentary.

with Vince and Jim Ross. And it is so much of the Vince just being like, you're playing the race card, sir. It's so fucking bad. Like at one point, Farouk is just like, did we have slavery in this country? What color were those slaves? And like Vince just being like, what does this have to do with anything? It's like, it is fuck. It is so fucked.

That this was their idea of like, I know how we'll make him a heel. We'll have him be a black guy who says that he's being treated poorly because he's black. Fucking awful. Not good. Fucking McMahon, dude. At one point in this match, Bob Holly chops the shit out of D'Lo Brown. I don't know if it's just the camera's so close or what, but...

Fuck, man. That was like some Gunther fucking slaps on his chest. Holy God. They try to do an Undertaker promo in the back. There's no sound. I mean, this is laugh out loud funny watching The Undertaker. Like it just kills the aura where he's just like, he's, he's spooky. He's undead, but the sound doesn't work. And then the sound starts working and Vince is literally directing it.

on the air. He's just like, no, let's go back to that. Go back to that. I think we can hear him again. Undertaker, we couldn't hear you. Oh, what is it you want to say? Now he's got to just restart his fucking spooky dead dude thing again. We got a Jerry Lawler promo in the back. We have a King of the Ring first round match coming up. This is, I think, infamous. This Jerry Lawler, they bleep it on Netflix, but he refers to...

Goldust as a flaming homophobic slur. We got an ad for the King of the Ring inflatable chair, which I know you want. It works indoors or outdoors, dude. can't find it anywhere hey man king of the ring inflatable chair dude who doesn't want that snooze you lose dude we hear the gold dust music he comes down this is such a i mean In a word, this is a bizarre era for Goldust because they're doing the family man gimmick with him where it's like he's got Marlena and then their little girl.

is is involved or like comes down for some of the entrances or they got footage of that it's just like they don't know what the fuck they're doing with gold dust at this point because if he's not gold dust he's just dustin runnels in paint Right. Because they don't know how to... It's crazy. We get Jerry Lawler music. He gets a big pop. Vince says it's because they're in Evansville. which is one of the USWA territories. You hope it's not because these people are angry about...

Goldust, them thinking Goldust is gay or he's pushing a homophobic button, pushes it really hard. I think there's a chance if we get to see all the Epstein files that just in the shot of one shot of the plane in the back, you see Lawler. Holding his crown. It's like, hey. It's like the picture of Jimmy Carter with Mr. Wrestling 2 in a headlock, but it's Epstein wearing the crown and he's got Lawler in a fucking headlock. It's coming.

They show footage, which I went back and watched just because I was like, because they bleeped it out again. This is from December 16, 1996. where Lawler is talking to Goldust, and he asks him if he's... And then it's bleeped out. And I'm like... It seems like he's asking him, well, he's like, well, aren't you gay? But I'm like, I don't know that they would have bleeped that. So I went into the archives. He calls him queer, which I'm like, all right.

but then I'm like, Oh wait, no, this is 1996. That was like, uh, you know, that was a slur back then. Yeah. You know, um, also i was bouncing around on that december 16th 96 raw for a little while too they had um i should i'll make a copy of it i'll send it to you i don't know if you i don't know if it's online probably is But like they go to this is like their only acknowledgement of Christmas on this episode. They go to Fred Blassie conducting a choir and they're singing.

Power bomb, power bomb. They're like singing a carol about Sid. Okay. I gotta send this to you. It's ridiculous. Anyway, back to this one. That was not on this episode. That's a different episode. So Goldust versus Jerry Lawler, King of the Ring, round one, USWA territory. They love Jerry Lawler. The King goes over, and then they fight up on the stage.

and Goldust lays them out, Jerry Lawler bumps and rolls down that metal entrance ramp all the way fucking down. I'm like, that doesn't look... That don't look fun. We get a Steve Austin promo, or we think we're going to. He gets attacked by the Heart Foundation before he can even talk. Flash funk music plays. Hell yeah.

We see footage of Austin and Shawn Michaels yelling each other in the back. They're both upset. They both got attacked by the Hart Foundation. Where were you? Where were you? Rocky Maivia music. We get The Rock versus Too Cold Scorpio. Again, more Bill Watts commentary from Jim Ross. oh god almost immediately the headbangers come out to ringside um and they have an inflatable king of the ring chair they have a boom box they have snacks they are

I remember the headbangers being annoying. Yeah, terrible. But this is when they're still getting half a push. and it's like oh my god they're i'm like i'm like what is the thing i'm like as i'm watching i was like oh were they like instructed by like russo or mcmahon to be like beavis and butthead like just constantly giggling I'm like, they are the fucking worst, dude. They're the fucking worst. Not into it. Oh, my God. Fucking wretched.

Oh, my God. Tuchel does an awful-looking plancha to the ground. And I don't know if Rocky... missed him or if he overshot it but like his arm hits that fucking metal ramp then I'm like if he didn't break his fucking arm or his shoulder it's a fucking miracle And then the headbangers get involved and attack both guys in front of the ref. Nothing happens. And then Rocky wins. That's it.

Yeah, we got a teaser for the Up Close interview with Mankind. We hear about how last week, some childhood stuff, Mickey Foley played baseball with no cup. And I'm like, I... talking about his his testicles swelling up well i did see they didn't they didn't yank him out of the uh whatever you call the thing before like raw starts oh the signature yeah yeah he's still in there

Sorry, Mick. We'll fucking show you footage even more now. You know what? The AI writer just pitched Donald Trump versus Mick Foley in a hell in a cell. Donald over strong. We get a Bret Hart promo. Heartbreak Kid wants a 10-minute match with him. We hear from Pillman. He puts down Stone Cold, former friend, former partner. We hear from Bulldog. We hear from Owen. We hear from everybody. Now it's time for the Warzone. The Warzone music hits. We open up with Ken Shamrock coming down.

We get Ahmed Johnson versus Big Van Vader. They were just talking about this. Who's the guy that just died? Nobody that we knew, but a German guy. who became a huge star in Japan because of a match he had with Inoki. And it was like they were running down Inoki's history. And I was just like, you know. Nobody ever, you know, no sold Inoki or, you know, took down Inoki except for then the other example would be Vader because they like he came in the territory hot, hot, hot.

and just fucking obliterated Antonio Noki. And it's just one of those things where you're like, God damn it, fucking Vader, man. Like, what an aura. What a presence. And then to just be fucking dispatched to the mid-card. at in fucking wwf man fucking insane insane i yeah i just went over the server side to see if i could see that guy's name but the first headline right now jerry lawler says he has one more match left

No, you don't King. No, you don't. That's incredible. The war zone. The war zone. So Ken Shamrock's on commentary. And I don't really know why, honestly. Oh, he's just promoting. There's a UFC pay-per-view coming up. He's promoting that. We get the Triple H music. He comes down to the ring with China.

They do a funny they kind of do a I don't know why they feel the need to reintroduce Triple H to the audience, but they show like a quick clip of him like they're explaining that he's from Greenwich.

like what part of Greenwich what street he lives on they show a clip of him with his hair down like drinking champagne in front of a fireplace with a woman I'm just like i don't it's it's some it's it's one of these things with mcmahon where clearly in the production meeting at some point he's just like i feel like these people don't even know who hunter hers helmsley is anymore we got to reintroduce him to these fucking

To the people. God, guys. What is 100 Earl's Helmsley? God, explain to them what Greenwich is. Shit. It's exactly what happened. I guarantee you. It was him, Jim Cornette, and Patterson. Four people, yeah. He's like, God damn it, guys. All right. Well, boss, we got that fucking video of him eating the fucking strawberries, drinking the gimmick in front of the fucking fireplace. We can just run that again. Thank you, Jim. Rockabilly comes out of the ring with the honky-tonk, man.

I feel like the big spot in this is just China body slams the honky on the fucking floor also funny you know Triple H goes over

And then there's a lot of... It feels typical of Triple H, where it's just like, he's got to be directing things in the ring, and he knows more than anybody else. And if you watch in the post-match... he's doing a lot of like he's grabbing china's wrist and like positioning her where to stand and like how to be and he's trying to do his his little curtsy thing and like he's trying to get her to stand behind him

It's interesting. Anyway. And then when they go to leave, he grabs the back of her neck and almost shoves her. I'm just like, this is a... What is going on? What's going on, Hunter? I just... Google China, I can't believe you let her in the Hall of Fame. Okay. Finally, this next segment gets a star. This is the up-close interview with mankind.

This one's excellent. I think the one on the following week, which I don't think we get in the Raw Vault, but I will probably go into the archives and watch myself just to get that satisfaction. This is the one, I believe this is part two. This is the one where he discusses hitchhiking to Madison Square Garden from upstate New York.

which i was trying to remember how accurate this is because i'm like i just assumed he always lived on long island yeah and i'm like i can't oh he was going to college he was in college you're so right Thank you. You're so right. Hitchhikes down. Says it takes him about 16, 18 hours. And it took about all the money I had in the world, but I got a front row seat, Jimmy. Like, you were in the third row.

Anyway, it's the incredible Jimmy Snuka, Don Morocco cage match for the IC title. And Snuka didn't do it all the time. He did it with Bob Acklin, and he did it with Morocco.

And I know he did it on a Nitro. I wonder if... Somewhere there surely is a complete list of all the times Jimmy Snuka did the... the splash off the top of the cage but i don't know that it was you know as many times as you know it'd be like counting all the times mankind fell off the hell of a cell right you know but i mean christ it's like it's a fucking you know transition move now from like cody rhodes he's got to fucking jump off the top of the cage

Yeah. Or if you're EOSky, perhaps you're inside a trash can. In a trash can, like fucking Seth Green. Oh, you love trash cans.

Oh, we know take away your trash can, Eosuke. You love trash cans. This is one of those matches, I've talked about this before, where it does feel like... that first sex pistols like what is it uh 24-hour party people when he runs down the first sex pistol show and like like goes through everybody that was in the audience who then went on to start their own band right yeah

Because Mick Foley's at this show. I believe Tommy Dreamer's at this show. Bubba Ray Dudley's at this show. Oh, yeah. I think Nunzio is at this show. Okay. It's all these New York guys and all who consequently became eight ECW originals were at this show. Right. And it was a hell of a match. Well worth watching. Then he talks about... Oh, the Dude Love video. The Loved One. Which...

I don't know how I have a copy of that just through my years of buying tapes and all that shit. And it is striking seeing Mick Foley when he's, you know. 17 or 18 and jumping off of his friend's garage onto a pile of mattresses still wild And we see a little bit of footage of him training at Dominic DiNucci's, dropping an elbow. I got to think that's Shane Douglas. I can never quite make out who he's working with, but the timing would make sense. Right.

And I love that line. And I'm sure that this happened. They're in the back, and he said, Shawn Michaels was kind of looking over my battered, bloody... body and was like, is this, is this how you always pictured your career? He's like, well, actually Sean, I always envisioned myself as you. He's like, oh, you mean the champ? He's like, no, the girls. So dude love is coming.

But next week's is the one where they go into his time in Japan and specifically the King of the Death match tournament. Yeah. I know we don't because I'm... No. No, we don't get it. I am going to watch that, though. I have it copied in the archive. Fuck yeah! Because that's the one where he quotes... I don't know. It's Richard III. I don't know what Shakespeare it is. Wipe it. I'm sorry. You want me to wipe it?

I'd have to explain the whole thing, but I shall, I do. Falstaff, the drunk. But he does an excerpt of the Band of Brothers speech. And then they fade to still frames from death matches in Japan. It's so fucking good. I feel you, dog. Let's see.

hbk music steve austin music uh the heart foundation come down and really now it's the third time you see that full crew up on the stage and it really hit me in that moment i was like what a fucking crew what a crew what a collection of talent of just these fucking mud stompers just god damn so good so so good and i love that it's they really are playing into you know like brett is really hiding behind these four blocks of granite, you know? So good.

Hell of a little match, and we get ourselves new tag champs. How about that? And then the big, big final seg, Undertaker confronts Paul Bear. We don't quite know what's happening. And then Undertaker bends the knee. People cannot believe it. Bends the knee to the Undertaker. Bends the knee to Paul Bearer. What? What is the secret, Vince? What does Paul Bearer know, dude? What's going on, dude?

That's your raw vault homework for the week. Vince. Yeah. Who's your favorite wrestler? I'm going with Ray Ray. I enjoyed Ray Mysterio this weekend. Oh, it gave you a hell of a, gave me a hell of a, gave me a hell of a. Ray Ray. Maybe it's because it's, uh, what I jammed up last night. You know, I'm a jam up guy and I watched that triple a show in raw last night and Ray Ray had, uh, had a match on each show, but, uh, there you have it now, Matt, your favorite wrestler, of course.

My favorite wrestler is Mick Foley, Mankind. Watching the up-close interviews. Got me all jazzed up again. I remember seeing on one of those docs. Mick Foley being like when they were filming them you know of course Vince was there and he's like you know he's like I remember in between Vince just going like this is outstanding Hell yeah. Hell yeah. So I'm going to be watching that part three. Yeah, dude. Where can the kids find you online? At Vince Averill on Twitter, Vince.Averill on Instagram.

And this is your old pal Matt McCarthy saying, follow me on all forms of social media, at McCarthyRedhead. And if you want a membership card to the Video Garage, get yourself over to my Patreon. I'll send you one in the mail. I'm working on... I'm, I'm always like three or four months behind and I'm looking, I'm like, God damn it. I got to get these done. So I'm getting a bunch out this week. Nice.

Alright, and we'll also be hooking up a little Q&A and a .5 later this week as well. Probably on Friday. Sounds about right. Sounds about right. And the anniversary of gorgeous George's death. Alright, big weekend coming up for us. Oh, baby. Ta-ta for now.

This transcript was generated by Metacast using AI and may contain inaccuracies. Learn more about transcripts.
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android