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WeWatchWrestling Issue #638

Dec 03, 20251 hr 25 min
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Summary

This episode sees Matt and Vince back together, sharing their adventure to War Games in San Diego. They discuss frustrating merchandise experiences, chaotic stadium entry, and the contrasting styles of WWE and AEW War Games matches. The hosts also delve into various wrestling rumors, speculate on WrestleMania bookings, praise Braun Breaker's potential, and express deep admiration for Eddie Kingston's authentic connection with fans.

Episode description

This week Matt & Vince are back together and better than ever talking War Games, San Diego, Lana's Breaking News and more!!! WWW Shirts: http://prowrestlingtees.com/wewatchwrestling Become a Patron! Bonus audio! Join the Discord! https://www.patreon.com/wewatchwrestling

Transcript

Intro / Opening

You watch wrestling?

Welcome and Road Trip Reflections

Greetings, salutations, well hello there. Welcome friends and foes, heels and babyfaces to the place that's right where it should be. In your ears! It's right where you left it! Well, hello there. Welcome to the We Watch Wrestling Podcast. I am your wonderful darling, red-headed, bearded host, Matt Bayes Wrestling McCarthy. With me, always, professional wrestling encyclopedia, Mr. Vince Averill.

Sound a little bit like Dick the Bruiser this week, but it's just me. It's just me. What did those dorks out of the ring, sons of bitches, do to your voice, Vince? You know... Before I even knew Dick the Bruiser was a wrestler, he was on a Zoo Crew morning radio show in Detroit. I was just like, who is this fucking guy? It turned out he was an old wrestler. He would show up high-pitched Eric or something? No, I feel like he was just...

on he was i feel like he was just part of the radio he was like jackie the joke man he was always there that's my recollection i'll have to actually do a little look into that but my recollection is he was just on one of the morning radio shows and i was like this guy sounds insane And you weren't far off. You weren't far off. Welcome back, Matthew. Welcome back. Thank you. Thank you. Drove.

Wrestling Rumors and Allegations

to new mexico and back in a few stops along the way broke bad i broke bad bro you know what's funny is in new new mexico Listeners in New Mexico will already know this. They have an ad campaign with those twins from Breaking Bad. Okay. Do you remember those guys? I don't remember their characters. I gotta be telling you straight up, dude. Never watched it. I didn't. I like, you know, right when it was ending is when George and I got together. So I watched like the last few episodes with her.

but I had not seen another minute of it. Anyway, well, there's these... Anyway, moving on. They're doing a don't pollute our state with... These were two of the most menacing, frightening characters on the show. Okay. Yeah. Don't pollute it with what? Anything. Just don't throw trash in our desert. Oh, litter bug.

You do the litter bug. At first, I thought it was a Navajo thing. I was like, oh, I thought those guys are Mexican. I guess they're Navajo. Just because we were driving through Navajo Nation when I saw the billboard. But then... They have PSAs on the TV and it's specific to New Mexico. I'm like, oh, okay. I had sort of anticipated this, but I was hoping it wouldn't go this way, that you would try to... scoot around it ignore it pretend like it wasn't said like it hadn't happened vince mcmahon

Shawn Michaels lovers. Come on, dude. Why are you? Why are you? You've been on this show for like a minute and a half now and you don't want to talk about it. Why? Brett said it was true.

he's the only one who's ever said it finally dawned on him after all this time he was like i finally figured it out but he said that before i have the tape somewhere i have the audio cassette of him saying it when he was on uh howard stern ah saying it forgetting it and remembering it again so like is that the way he presented it now that he's like i just figured that's what i said that he was like i figured it out but maybe he just meant like i figured it out like

20 years ago whatever i gotta find that audio if it's not on youtube or somewhere yeah i have it for sure because it was like he this was after the screw job it must have been when he was promoting wrestling with shadows because it was around that time oh so like yeah 99 that's what i'm saying like i was in college and i taped this or maybe my brother taped it and sent it to me okay but bret hart

Like, they're just talking to him about wrestling. Like, why would... I think a caller... It was in the... It was a response to a question. Either somebody called or somebody who worked on the show was like, why would McMahon go with Sean instead of you and do this?

and very nonchalantly brett was just like i think that there was some sort of a homosexual relationship between the two of them and he says it's so casual and then Like chaos erupts in the studio because now at this point, like you can either somebody is in Howard's headset or just Howard himself is just like. This is your opinion, right? You're alleging this. He panics like Vince McMahon's going to sue them. Of course. But then Robin was actually...

the hilarious one in that segment because she says something like, and again, I don't know if, you know, somebody's feeding her these jokes or what, but she just goes, so you're saying you don't think Sean heard us back in the ring? Ah, shit. Ah, shit.

Ric Flair's Hogan Drug Claims

I gotta find that tape. I have that cassette somewhere. Well, if you don't want to really get into that, I guess we can talk about Ric Flair saying that it was street drugs that killed Hulk Hogan. I mean, the fact that... We still have no answer on the bigger story of how Ric Flair manages to capitalize every word in the sentence. There's no way to automate that. Like you have to hit, like you have to physically capitalize each letter. Yeah. And he's got a lot of time on his hands.

The reason I bring it up is because this post on Instagram that you're referring to... Street Jugs. Street Jugs. It has... probably the longest trying to pull it up new record it's got to be the longest uh caption he's ever written and this is the only place where he you know corresponds where's rick flair okay good street drugs dude you ever be typing in a name and you're like why doesn't it come up right away did he did he fucking block me

I usually just think like, oh, I didn't realize their actual name is Metallica Street 420 or something. Not their real name. There seems to be some controversy over my remarks. that street drugs killed Hulk Hogan. I was only repeating what I know to be a fact through family members. He spoke to Terry the day before he died, did he not?

After 11 back surgeries, hip replacements, knee replacements, shoulder replacements. He had a shoulder replacement? Jesus. Maybe the rotator cuff or something, right? I'm just picturing the entire shoulder. Take the arm off, put it back on. Remember how Trapjaw looked? Like a He-Man. Vince, I was thinking about you. There's a tape I have.

Masters of the Universe Memories

where it's an episode of G.I. Joe, but it's clearly at Christmas. And the only commercial that mentions Christmas is the Masters of the Universe. Oh, yeah. And the voiceover just keeps going. what do you need this christmas you need he man and i'm like oh man this is the ad that probably broke vince's brain yeah well this is the ad that vince repeated and then was told you don't need that

You know, Lee had a different opinion. Two neck surgeries. I am sure the pain was unbearable. A doctor, as I know, can only prescribe so much pain medication under medical guidelines. I've been told that they all did. I've been told that all they did was to help him, not to hurt him, to help him get through the night and the pain.

Eventually that catches up with you as we know with everybody. He was my friend, a man I respected, and I'm only reporting what I've been told. Nothing more, nothing less. He doesn't cite his source though. No, this was not an attempt to demean Hulk Hogan or his legacy. I have always referred to him as being one of the two biggest stars in the industry, himself and Steve Austin. I apologize if people misunderstood my statement. Hulkamania forever.

Now keep in mind, as I said before, every single word I just read was capitalized. Sure. Not all caps. Your mind goes to Nick. Your mind goes to Nick though, right? If they're going to send somebody out onto the corner to try to collect some... illegal drugs are we thinking nick who who apparently maybe was considering or has been doing some wrestling training heaven forbid oh god i hope that happens

let me tell you something dude i can't go out to that corner dude someone's gotta go for me brother nick you gotta go make a run call brutus brutus probably already has shit in his car nick nick nick nick nick also more ice For this trash can full of Bud Light, please. There's just a trash can full of Bud Lights in his hospital room. Like he looks over and like, Nick, the trash can's sweating. We need to change this ice. More ice. Because you're getting hot.

I didn't watch this video that he posted yesterday, The Nature Boy, but it's some interview with Trish Stratus and Bill Apter talking to each other on Zoom. Okay, that sounds like it would be very good. But they must be talking about flair, right? Or they're talking about Charlotte. They must be talking about Charlotte. All hail the queen.

Yeah, these pictures of Flair and Charlotte in their matching Christmas pajamas. Ooh, yeah. Oh, everybody's got them. Who else is this over here? Is that Fifi the maid? They're back together, right? I can't follow these things. You're the encyclopedia. You're supposed to keep up on this shit, dude. Well, it's just so ever-changing, it feels like. I can't. The status, you know?

It's complicated, as they used to say on one of those social media sites. It's complicated. On MySpace, was it? Yeah. Relationship status. It's complicated.

San Diego War Games Travel Woes

that wait did i already tell you that uh apropos nothing adam marks he was like he sent me this quote that apparently i said in like 2007 or something oh boy on the show no no Just to him, I guess. It said, listening to music on MySpace is like eating a sandwich in the bathroom. and i was like all right i mean i don't remember saying that but i guess you know it's like if it would be like you know you don't want to listen to music on this fucking wow

It's the same as if you were going to eat when you're on the toilet. It kind of makes sense, but I don't know exactly what I was trying to get at. I was probably fucking stoned. I know that. Can I steal that? You're going to steal that one? Are you stealing it? It's like eating a sandwich in the bathroom. That paint is such a picture.

They used to call me a wordsmith back in the day. It makes complete sense, too, because I'm like, these are two wonderful things that don't belong together. It's the wrong place for the right thing. So I'm on a train down to San Diego on Saturday, right? You know, bright and early eight o'clock. I'm sick over it. That's inside the car on the train, eight o'clock. I was probably, so that would have been about nine.

A.M. Mountain Time. I would have been somewhere in what was the town we started? I think we were just passing through Tuba City. uh you know rocker to the left of me uh danny uh to the right you know um super dragon different danny And you know the butcher. The butcher. The baker. The Acuna. Acuna maker. Acuna. So we get down there and...

Our buddy Shane, I don't think he ever met, who's an old, old friend of Carlos's, picked us up. He's local to the area? Local. He's a San Diego guy. And so we go to... the hospitality like we've been to before that we went to at the Intuit Dome. Oh, so these were on location. On location. And for the last time. And so I had emailed twice during the week. If I go to this fucking hospitality and it ends at one 30, can I fuck off and come back for the show that doesn't start till four?

no reply we show up we're like it's like maybe a little after 11 30 when we get there the line is fucking so long they got one guy checking people in right so already

It like, it looks like it could be, you could spend half of the time of this hospitality in the line waiting to check in. Right. And then someone's like coming down the line, you know, make sure this, I go, Hey, uh, when we go in here can we leave oh no no no once you're in you're in i'm like not your fault but i fucking emailed you guys twice this week to find this shit out you know

oh i'm so sorry so we're like all right well fuck this you know like free food is cool and getting a picture with nia jacks probably or whatever but like i'm not I'm not fucking gonna sit in there for another three hours. You know, I'm like, uh, the money's gone. Let's fucking leave. So we went, had some fish and chips and stuff at this Irish pub I'd been to before.

Merchandise Store Mayhem

Then we decided to go over to the Superstore that's over there where they do Comic-Con. And the line outside is pretty significant. I'm already going like, I don't think so, guys. I don't want to get in this line. And the next thing you know, we're in the line. And then I'm looking in the window and I go, this line goes to there, but then it goes all the way back there, right?

so we spent about fucking i don't know how long in this line but it's like there's nothing else going on we're just hanging out we're staying outside it's nice and uh when we finally uh get inside you know you can imagine one it's an anthill yeah two uh 80 of the shit you don't even want to look at and the other 20 is out of stock um it's like it's not even a matter of you

You wouldn't even consider owning it. You just don't even want to look at it while it's in the fucking store. I had two purposes inside of that store. One, our dear friend Casey Corbin asked me to get him a Survivor Series hat. which i was not able to do inside of that store and two once i knew that there was a fucking john cena farewell tour program i needed to get that for you oh buddy i appreciate it and uh once again i was told eh maybe in the stadium

So what is the point of having this fucking store? I mean, there were plenty of people in line to buy shit, so I guess some of these t-shirt designs are working. That has to be the strategy. of we're going to limit the stuff that people want because it's going to draw in the a they're going to be waiting so long that once they get inside they're like i gotta leave with something

Or two, or both of these, that it is the people who have no taste, no brain cells, who are just, oh, oh, this is what they got? I'm going to get this. And you walk out with the ugliest Rhea Ripley shirt.

on god's green earth the other thing i wonder is like maybe the shit that we want is not the shit that other people want so they're like ah you can probably print about 750 programs that'll be fine you know and then the hat thing um Going to a wrestling show without a program is like eating a sandwich in the bathroom.

i think they did have the hat but i was like i'm not getting in this line i gotta i gotta find another way so sure um but but you know the other thing is they do these crossovers now that people are interested in they have the like that um foos gone wild guy the like uh clown in the hockey mask i'm describing it as if i'm 50 years old like that guy he has his own thing going on and they do a crossover with him they did a crossover with um

uh vape so they had those kind of shirt like so they have these things that maybe you know to people who aren't us right but but yes generally whoever's designing their t-shirts fucking needs an enema um

Stadium Entry and Obstructed Views

And a sandwich. Yes. So we pile out of there and wander around to another place and hung out for a little while and then decide to make our way into the stadium at about... three or a little after three because we're like ah it's gonna be fine now like getting in and we're also thinking there's a dedicated entrance for people with fucking on location so we go back and they're like oh no that shit's gone

i'm like all right i guess i guess they're anticipating that everybody who has on location was fucking already inside right so again i'm like what what is you're paying extra for nothing you know because uh yes you get free chicken strips yes you can maybe get a picture with someone who occasionally appears on tv for them or whatever but it's just like you can get a picture with tamina snuka um nevertheless

Uh, one of those things that only usually happens when Maddie's around happens where there's this big ass line going this way. And then we're looking and. I'm like asking this lady about the on location thing. And then I realized there's a second line that's going this way. That's like a fraction of the size. And we just like, and we weren't cutting anybody. It was just like, everyone thought this was the line because it was so long.

But there was, in fact, a second situation right here. So we got in with no problem. I'm glad that the luck of the Irish that I bring to situations rubbed off.

I think it was our visit to the fields, uh, Irish pub there in, uh, that's what did it rubbed off on us. But, uh, um, and so we uh where were we that one time i'm sorry i keep interrupting you where were we that one time where i was like wait a second there's no i was like are these gates operation like they were so empty it was like are they broken right Yeah. That was something not too long ago. Yeah. You know, I don't know, dog. Buddy, I can barely picture it.

but see this is this is a situation where acuna is going to blame me and then i don't remember anything every time he talks to me every fucking time he brings something up he's got to be like i know you don't remember you know this is this is how the guy treats me all i am is a friend to him And this is a treatment I get. Anyway.

how many how many how many pictures of rancid meat have we both texted him and he's like it's fine just cook it just cook it a little extra he's never like don't eat it that's kind of strange too he has never it never once said to me don't eat it you're fine That is a curious development. I'm like, Danny, this sausage is sweating more than I am. Go ahead. It's fine.

Fortunately, there was a point in the show that there was a merch stand right up behind us, and maybe it was the aforementioned Danny who was like, there's no line. He's like, and they have everything you need. So I ran up there and was able to get the program and the hat in one fell swoop. So that worked out other than they were out of bags. So then I'm just sitting with the two things on my lap.

trying to protect it from the floor that was all wet underneath us for some reason like they had fucking hosed the place down or something now when you buy clothing for a friend like this yes do you Does it all go down the same way as when you gave that bag of pants back to Eddie Kingston? Do you say like, I didn't put it on or nothing? Oh, I don't, I would anticipate Casey doesn't think I'm like going to try the hat. I think he knows it. And it's all, you know.

it should be creased up but folded and it's got the little piece of cardboard in the in the you know i think i think me and casey are you know and then and the thing about the program is corners are a little dinged but I certainly wasn't happy about that either. Buddy, trust me when I say I'm still on the fence. I haven't gotten...

So many letters from anyone my entire life than Pro Wrestling Illustrated has been sending me this past month about renewing my subscription. And I'm like, I feel like I am going to do it. But I'm like... A couple of bent corners on a program. Ain't nothing compared to what Stu Sachs and company. It's not even Stu Sachs anymore. What is it, Kevin McElroy? Hmm.

i've got it under some stuff right now trying to flatten it out hey man i do appreciate i got something i gotta send casey i uh oh let me throw throw it in with throw it in my shit oh that's not a bad idea It's a great excuse for us to get together. Yeah, and we had some nice, you know, the seats were good. Seats were good.

Front Row Fiascos and Show Review

With the war games type of thing, you know, it's always going to be kind of hard to see through the cage. But it wasn't too bad. I feel like the further away you are, that kind of helps a little bit in those situations, actually. Well, you got to wind up watching that screen. I always, I get in my head, I feel like maybe you're the same way where I'm just like, God damn it, I'm here. I don't want to be watching it on the... the tv i want to be looking at the the actual ring but yeah

i i've gone through that a little bit i'm i'm less so that way now i'm kind of like well you are here and you're you're hanging and you're having the experience and so if you occasionally your eyes drift up i don't think you got to flog yourself for that you know

I know. I've gotten past that, too, because it is, I'm like, I think it was at Mania 40 where I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're here. We're here, and now I'm watching it. I'm like, what's the difference? Which one was that? That was in Philadelphia. Ah.

My eyeballs were frozen. I couldn't see anything. Right. God, that was cold. That first night was fucking stupid. But I'm sure there are people listening who are like, I had shorts on, dude. I live in the Northeast. But not me. I'm a... that's right that was that was i i feel like that show was the beginning of like oh man i i think i'm old my leg hurts my back hurts my ass hurts i'm like i think i'm broken

yeah right you know the other thing uh in true um uh tko fashion i'm gonna say oh boy it's the only people you can blame on this one so Throughout the night, we noticed there's just a fucking long-ass line going to whatever it's called, customer service, visitor services, whatever, right? Mm-hmm. Oh, boy.

like what is there a giveaway what's going what the fuck's going on here this line does not is not going down at all it was everyone who had been fucking sold and obstructed view seat because you know they got the posts and it's like

you gotta fucking write it on the ticket dude even though it's like a little you know whatever you call that kind of it's not like a solid thing it's like it doesn't doesn't make it okay like if you're sitting behind that thing behind whatever's holding up the fucking roof over the ring and they you know it it's like i don't know if any of those people got any fucking justice or not but it's that's it's why i obsess

it's one of the reasons i obsess about fucking seat location because i'm like you know at least now i know going back to vegas they don't use that shit inside there you know right because if the venue has the damn roof well that's the other thing about sitting in philly it's like why they don't do the super bowl in fucking boston you know it's like you got to do it inside or you got to do it in a warm place and those are the two options and if it's a warm place with no roof

then you got to fucking write on the ticket that it's going to be fucking obstructed. Dude, I told you that story about when I worked there in Miami. I walked out, and this was before the show had even started. i just walked out onto the floor and immediately people in the stand spotted me guy in a suit oh yeah yep started screaming at me being like

If this is going to be an obstructed seat, you got to fucking put it on the goddamn ticket. I didn't know I was going to be. And I'm like, I'm like, I got up. I got to go. I got to go. Well, that's like the first time I ever sat in a. in quotes, front row seat, I believe.

If it wasn't, the first time maybe was in Youngstown, Ohio, but that was in a really fucking small room. But the Sandman did fucking stand over top of me that night and pour beer on my head. Is there footage of this? I think that was a house show.

i think it was just a house show if there is i haven't seen it but um i flew to new york for uh one of those uh i think it was like massacre on 34th like it was 2000 probably whatever toward the end and um i get to the hammerstein and my front row seat is one of those ones where it's like all the way

Like the ring is centered and you're all the way out here. And I was like, I didn't have experience with it, I guess. And I was like, the map had not indicated that that's where my front row seat was going to be. And I fucking went crazy. And they moved me up into one of those little boxes. Like, yeah, right. Yeah. I got upgraded, but only because I fucking went insane because I was like, dude.

all this is on a credit card right now i had to fucking come all the way to new york to fucking i'm not gonna this is not right yeah it was probably gabe sapolsky that you were uh chewing into i know i would have known that but whoever it was was able to fucking put me somewhere else we gotta take care of this guy quick he is hot yeah this is gonna be a problem this guy's a problem um

I mean, I would like to think I stated my case. Not by, I didn't go, you know. I am positive. I was a serious person. I am positive you were well behaved and.

you to a point you remembered your manners but you left no man untested uh and then the show uh felt very short and a little flat was my experience yeah that's that's that's about how it felt watching it on tv after the fact too because i we're because we're back on on board with disney so i'm like well i guess that means i have espn which i do Yeah. And what's strange is watching the replay on ESPN.

It is a pay-per-view, obviously, but obviously, this has been the status quo for a long time. WWE puts in their own commercial breaks. Sure. But for whatever reason... There were times where I look up at the TV and I'm like, oh, did the feed cut out? It's just a black screen. And I was like, this almost feels like... I'm like watching, you know, satellite footage because there was a moment where they showed the sign of the night, you know, when the announcers like just, and I'm like.

I don't know that I've ever seen this watching the pay-per-view at home. Yeah. You know? So I was like, this is a strange feed that I got after the fact. All the packages, but none of the ads. The screen just went black. I'm like, this is insane. It felt like when I worked there and they would give us DVDs.

right of like the satellite return of when when smackdown was taped on tuesday but broadcast on friday yeah uh it's just dawning on me unless i missed something i also there were no no shitheads anywhere near us and i don't remember any stupid chants kicking up like it was kind of a fucking a pretty chill night it's funny you mention that because when whoever it was

in the men's cage match when they pulled out a table immediately i was like i was like oh isn't that interesting when i haven't that people weren't just immediately demanding tables yeah right

WWE vs. AEW War Games Critique

we should take note of what towns that have maybe maybe they've priced out those dipshits i have no idea well uh also related to streaming i now at least the last couple weeks for me um i'll if i start raw during the actual feed i get like three minute commercial breaks and if i and then when i pick it up later and it's the replay there's no commercials so i'm like i'm never

trying to watch that shit at 5 anymore. Yeah, they don't know what they're doing. That's what's nice about... the replay on hbo max of dynamite because it's the commercials are there but you can just fast forward right through it like you taped it yourself yeah well um another thing i was

Noting to the folks who were with me, I was like, listen, they just fucking put out an action figure with EO in a trash can. This chick is going in a trash can tonight. And lo and behold, she had her own personalized trash can. Well, it's so funny that that has become her calling card. This is the girl. They need to do an appearance on Sesame Street where her and Oscar the Grouch run into each other. Oscar the Grouch.

oscar the crouch well she's the same size as a trash can which is helpful for her she can disappear into the can there was one point i mean those uh the the japanese women are so good at at working it's it's insane like because you remember not too long ago uh people were upset about

the bump kairi sane took on the the edge of the uh she was outside of the ring oh yeah yeah yeah it looked horrible it looked horrible and then there she was a few days later bright eyed and bushy tailed and i was like holy shit i got worked it was a fucking work I got that same feeling in that the women's match when I suppose it was Io. I think Io and Asuka were up in the corner on top of the rope.

and then kairi comes over she's got the lid of the trash can yeah eo comes jumping down at her and she swings the trash can it looked like she just hit her in the fucking face of the throat with the side of the trash can lid And I was like, that is unnecessary. And then suddenly it hit me. I was like, oh, wait, these two are just brilliant at what they do.

Meanwhile, I don't know if you could make it out if you were watching it. At one point, Braun Breaker just completely laid it on his neck. I don't know if you saw that. I don't know if I was completely aware of it in the moment, but I've subsequently seen it. I was saying this to everybody when I was flying solo two weeks ago after the blood and guts, right? Which is...

It's not even a question that that's where the actual War Games matches are happening is in AEW. Yes, but I will say I didn't... I didn't need it to be some fucking, you know, uh, gory, super ultra violent thing to work. The reason that people were booing at the end, I'm not sure, is because there wasn't enough fucking blood and carnage, you know? Oh, well, that's not what I was... Well...

Let's put a pin in that for a second because I think that's worth discussing. But what I was going to say was, I don't think... WWE can't compete. with AEW when they're doing this type of match. They don't have a roof on the cage. Well, they don't.

They don't have a roof on the cage. And also, it's odd. It didn't dawn on me until the women's match. I was like, oh wait, you can win by pinfall in WWE. That's completely like... it's just it couldn't be less of a war games match yeah you know it's submit or surrender that's the deal right um but it's it's Such a brilliant move by Tony. And you got to assume it's intentional that they are doing a better version of the match ahead of WWE.

And then WWE can't follow up, can't compete. I mean, when the women's matches was starting, I was like, what they can do is... And it's not for a lack of talent, you know? Sure. You know, because it's like for every Nia Jax in the WWE match, there's, you know, a Julia Hart in the AEW match. You know, it is what it is. But... Whereas it's not going to be a blood and guts, you know, one weapon, one bloodbath thing after the next.

Where they can benefit, where WWE can benefit is by doing what AEW can't do because there's no roof, so then it turns into a high-flying showcase, which I still, I was like, I enjoyed the women's WWE match, but I was like... They didn't completely take advantage of... Of everything that they could do. I mean, it becomes the cavalcade of kendo sticks. And it is such a parody of itself. I mean, if I never see another kendo stick again for the rest of my life, it's still five years too late.

And it's always so hilarious to me that the lineage of that is some kid who got in fucking trouble and got... the Singapore cane for doing graffiti or whatever over there. When I was a freshman in high school. And so then ECW brings in the... the Singapore cane. It was still called the Singapore cane. Yep. And then from there, it just becomes, it's just taken by wrestling.

and it's the only place you've... You've never heard about another person ever getting publicly caned in a foreign country. It's now just a weapon in professional wrestling. It just... And I feel...

WrestleMania and Future Bookings

And it was Sandman's, it became Sandman's signature weapon. It was the mainstream star that they brought in to get a little publicity. That's right. That's right. That's right. They couldn't actually bring in the kid from Singapore. I can't believe it, though, man. It's so funny because they...

Because they used to talk about like, because Tommy Dreamer got caned. That was actually, I think, when Tommy Dreamer kind of like got over with the ECW crowd. Right. Because the punishment. The punishment. And he took it. And I was like, oh, Tommy's kind of extreme.

and then there's the cane dewey sign and all that now you know me dude when that bell rang and the punker was laying flat on his back i was halfway up the aisle but i was told there was a chorus of booze that came down at the end of that match yeah so what has so they they were booing that the bad guys won or they're booing i i mean i don't know because you know once you're not there

You're sort of subject to however it's being framed. So I don't know if they were booing that there was, you know, the hooded individual costs. their beloved cm punk the match or if they were like this fucking blows or it's only fucking seven o'clock what happened to the rest of the show or what or why was nikki bella on this thing at all or any of these questions that could have arisen but uh The big thing for me is, are we looking at another fucking Roman Cody fucking mania match? Oh, well.

No, I feel like the reason they did the Cody accidentally hits punk spot. is because okay now we're planting seeds for punk and cody at mania but see what the the word on the strizzy is that it's gonna be fucking punk and brawn even though punk and brawn are going at it here on January 5th for the first raw of the new year on Netflix. But, but the other interesting thing is, you know, they're already sort of teasing that.

rollins could be back right because they they did that thing around you know people they there was a photo that came out of rollins hanging out outside of uh survivor series he doesn't have a sling on his arm you know So, so who knows, but, but it ultimately was Roman and Cody who fucking did the little stare down. Right. See, I don't know. I just, I just flat out assumed they were going to.

do Lesnar and Roman. I get it. Fucking mania. Well, and here's the other thing, right? Triple H said Roman's bigger than any title. So then why would he be in a match for a title, right? Oh. That's why we do what we do. The story never ends. You understand? Yeah, it doesn't start either. That's the problem. You know...

As I count my many, many blessings, one of them has to be that I had just been thinking like, when can I get to another fucking AEW show? When can I get to another AEW pay-per-view? And then they're just going to give us one. Dude. I don't get it. I'm clearing it with everybody. What a blessing. I'm like, look, coming back from the gig, I'm like, I got to go straight to that wrestling show. It's just, this year was...

I am so ashamed of myself. There's some bushes outside of crypto where you're going to find Maddie's luggage during that show. If you walk around the perimeter of crypto, you're going to find his luggage. I'm going to get one of those, like I put all my shit in a locker. Well, I mean, we are looking at a couple shows. So we got GC Dub on Saturday. Yes. Then we got Defy at the Lodge Room on the 28th. And are we worried that no one is buying tickets to this show? Tell the kids what you discovered.

Well, I mean, when the Patreon presale was going on, other than myself, it was like three other tickets had been sold. And then I have gone back. Let me do it right now just so we can get a real time as of this recording. What's really going on with these? get to the bottom of this mystery because here it is okay if they cancel this show because nobody's going i'm i'm not gonna be okay with it okay so as of this moment

As of this moment, we know for sure. I'm going to be there. You're going to be there. Hot Tub's got to be there. A couple other friends of ours will be there. On a total of... Uh, let's say somewhere near, uh, I'm going to, I'm going to low ball it and say 40 tickets on the stage. It might be more like 60. There's three tickets that have been sold on the stage.

front row of the stage usually pretty popular at these kind of programs and then uh the rest of the room which only i mean there's obviously so here's the other thing could be happening I can't see the general admission standing room. So maybe everyone's buying those because those are a much... cheaper price so maybe everyone's just standing but seated three on the stage are gone you've got uh five on the one side of the ring that are sold two on the other um like maybe

10 or 11 on one side for and then you know but there's like plenty of seating that has not been procured as of yet now maybe people don't know people aren't aware one is me one is you one is hot tub one is adam jones is anybody else showing up to this thing i mean that well My brother Russell will be there. The main event, we already know, it's the fucking Brian Keith versus Timothy Thatcher. That's not a bad little match. Mm-mm.

We also have the return to the Globe Theater in January for Hog Wrestling, House of Glory. When is that again? Well, let's see here. I want to make sure I have everything. Hog City of Angels takes place on Friday, January 30th. Fucking love it, dude.

I'm in. I'm in. Now, see, if we get too many of these shows together, Glennis is going to be like, the fuck you're going straight from the airport? You're going to wrestling all the time now. So we've got to be very careful. Baby, I haven't been to wrestling in so long. I'm...

Lana's Latest Headlines

Dying inside. Now, the scene of retirement tour has been an abject failure, and it took... six people for Dominic to win back his belt. And they were all girls. The term overbooked. Except for the two Irish guys. Yeah, I don't know, man. This is the fucking... Who won the... Are they still doing the... The brackets? The final is Friday. It's Gunter versus Los Angeles Knight in the finals. Man, I say it.

practice labor every week nobody loves a wrestling tournament more than me and this has been probably the most piss poor They were having semifinal matches on the same night as first round fucking matches in this tournament. What? No. Yes, 100%. How can there be semifinals on the first night? No, no, no. I'm saying there were semifinal matches on the same show as people who were still in the first round of the tournament.

Or quarterfinals, I guess I should say. Oh. Well, too bad about Pentagon. Who knows how far he could have gone if he didn't pop his shoulder out, but... I think what it did was cause them to have to beat solo, but I think what it, what it, what it goes to show is unless, unless not everybody is going to be. Cody Rhodes, or even CM Punk, leaving one company and going to another, you know? Yeah. Once the shine wears off, it's like, all right.

Well, what is it? Uh, what is it you do exactly? Well, I did see it. I did see it was a headline again, so I have to read it, but it said Lana said, uh, on Rusev leaving a W. He just wanted to wrestle on TV every week. It's like, well, a bummer about that. Sorry about your bad damn luck. Are they together again? That's right. Oh, yeah. They're together again, boy. You got to listen to her podcast, man. You got to get up to date on this shit.

You know, I'm so behind on Stephanie McMahon's podcast that I'm just, you know, I can't get to Lana's. Well, I saw that she's interviewing Andrew Scholes this week, so you might want to jump over there. Lana? No, Stephanie. Stephanie. Oh, Jesus Christ. Listen. They love the Austin scene. I think that guy's in the Austin scene. Who cares? But. Couldn't tell you. Yeah. So.

Get ready, dude. The last time is now. So while you were in the bathroom. Meet me in the bathroom. And Nikki Bella and Stephanie Viqueira were in the ring.

Nikki Bella's Legacy Debate

Did you also... Unfortunately, I was there for most of that one. Just timed out that way. You know, it's funny. Because sometimes you're like...

This is not going to be a good time to leave my seat. There's going to be way too many people up there. Exactly. You got to pick your spot. And that was... the absolute, like, instead of having big show out, come out and like body slam someone before the main, they were like, let's just have this match happen and everyone will cool off, get something to eat.

go to the bathroom, and then be able to lock in for the men's. And it's also like, the show is so fucking short, they could have fucking just held it the whole time anyway, but they didn't. I am the master of manipulation. I am going to miss this because I need to get a cheeseburger. I need to get a Coca-Cola. I need to get a program. I need to get a bathroom. I'm going to do a lap. I have never been in the room for...

Jericho's theme song. Damn, dude. Well, you know how to have fun, bro. Come on, Judas. Are they going to let him take that to WWE if he goes back to the E dudes and be able to come out to Judas? It's his song. It's so AW. Actually, I mean, because Triple H hates Jericho so much that he will... No, there's no way. Chris, nobody knows your fucking band. You got to come out to the Y2J music. A quarter of a century later, he's still the millennium man.

this fucking story that i just saw today and it it would did not originate from melzer for people who have issue with our friend dave yeah but apparently nakamura back in the summer was like Oh, yeah. Did you read this whole article? Yes. Give me my release. And I guess they were like, okay, is that what you gleaned?

That they were agreeing that he could be a free agent. Right, because in his contract, he can wrestle for companies in Japan, but he was not going to be able to wrestle Tanahashi without it being a political issue. If he stayed in WWE and was just allowed to go do it because of, and more importantly, their relationship with CMLL.

who's fighting against triple a right now than it is the a w thing but and and and as we all know triple a is now wwe right 100 and uh and then i guess sometime around when they did those shows in japan whatever a couple of months ago they were like actually no like you you're gonna you're gonna stay with us you can do the match

but you're going to need to stay with us i'm sure knowing that that meant it wasn't going to happen oh but uh that's a bummer i mean obviously okada and tanahashi is not any you know it's obviously still a fucking great match it's not it doesn't feel like no but but that would have been fucking i mean it bell to bell hiroshi and okada is going to be a better match, but the story of Tanahashi and Nakamura is much more...

um the as to quote our founding fathers a more perfect ending you know yeah pretty crazy dude wrestling's still crazy but it is funny that it's like it's it's more of a of the, the, the luchid Libre issue, the politically than, than anything else. Yeah, man. They're going to be like, why are you, why are you letting him wrestle the Ukraine? Right. Yeah, man. Why don't you fucking let Mr. Iguana do it for fuck's sake. Oh man. Mr. Iguana.

He sold a couple t-shirts. Can we sell some puppets? Are the people done? Are the people done with Mr. Iguana yet? Can we move on? ah no we still got a few more puppets to sell god damn um it was interesting uh speaking of melzer because when he was talking about the um the the nikki bella loss which i was like not surprised by at all who thought that she had a snowball's chance in hell i don't know i don't i don't know if but dave was um

It was an odd take. I didn't quite disagree in theory, not Austin theory. That was the worst fucking super kick I've ever seen in my life. Vince McMahon could do a better super kick. Uh-oh. Now. Now. Magnum TA could do a better super kick. Hey. I. I don't have a problem with Nikki Bella losing. I even have less of a problem with her leaving the company and wrestling altogether. But Dave was like, you know, she's a legend.

which some people took issue with, but I'm like, look, did I have any use for her then or now? No. Or forever? then now forever together but you can't people are very quick to forget how popular nikki bella was how much merch she she sold you know That she really was, at a time when the women's division was down, she was the star. I mean, can we be clear? You can look, but you can't touch. That goes double for fucking Jey Uso.

Don't get me started on him. But Dave was just like, he couldn't believe that they beat her clean in the middle of the ring. And I'm like, well, first of all, Stephanie's a baby face. So why would she? cheat and also who gives a shit like he like he was on and on about like this is ruining her her legacy and i'm like what i'm like should she be putting people over yeah i'm like dave what are you

Dave, put the filter back on your cigarette. Yo, he's just back for vacation, dude. He's still tripping. Dave. Dave. He's still playing volleyball at the beach, dude. He don't know what the fuck's going on. I'm like, did you fucking trip on your son's friend's shoes on the staircase again? Did you take another header over the handle? Did you give Vince your lung virus? Did you take another header over those fucking handlebars again? Dave.

What do you, like, Nikki Bella's legacy is tarnished because she lost to Stephanie Vaqueror clean in the middle of the ring. Stephanie Vaqueror is the fucking hottest thing going today. I don't know what you fucking... Nikki Bella?

CMLL Politics and Nakamura

Well, it's also, you know, I think it's a slow day on the fucking Observer site because I'm now seeing several headlines attributed to Lana. Lana shocked to be considered WWE legend. Always ready for TV return. Lana on Russo's AEW departure, he wanted to wrestle every week on TV. Lana, Liv Morgan and Dominic Mysterio could literally be the main event of WWE. What does that mean? What?

it's happening does she work for the she's got like three different headlines on the fucking observer site does she work for figure four now what is happening well she got this new podcast they must just be fucking just soundbiting soundbiting Welcome back to the Brian and Lana show. How's it going, everybody? If she comes to the fucking Brazilian Steakhouse Mania weekend, we know what's up, dude. Did she...

She dropped the Russian accent, right? Yes. But like, was she in AEW? I don't remember. Yes. Right. Didn't she come in as the, uh, right. his fucking whatever they were calling it it's like higher power or something right i don't know that was the the undertaker had a higher power yeah yep She was in AEW. I'm just trying to remember if she lost the Russian accent when they were still in WWE. Oh. I don't remember.

Well, she was there after he left, right? Didn't she do some shit? Right. Yeah. I mean, look. Anybody who remembers the blow-by-blow of Lana's career post-fucking Mero, what's his name? Rusev in WWE? Everybody should have a spotty memory of that. Be like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she teamed up with so-and-so or she was trying to... If you can, off the dome, be like, oh...

Oh, well, she worked with Summer Rae, and then she moved on to Nikki Bella, and then she was working with Molly Holly. It's like, no, no, no, no, no. You are paying too close of attention. That's a problem. You have a problem, bro. And it's named Lana. Samoa Joe versus Eddie Kingston. Does that move the needle for you? Dude, I don't want to tip anything, but I can't wait for that. Winter's coming, and so am I. All right, dude? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

cool your pies vince dude the pies must be cooled uh i can't wait i don't i mean jesus christ i'm i'm sitting here like trying to catch up on wrestling and i'm like Literally, I thought to myself, I was like, did fucking Vince go to fucking... What was the name of the AW pay-per-view final fight? The final... The... Some with an F. Oh, the pay-per-view that just happened? That just happened. Fog hat. Full gear. Full gear.

I'm sitting here and I'm like, God damn it. Did Vince go to full gear too? Oh, no, no, no. Full gear was where? Oh, it was in New Jersey. It was in... East Rutherford? No, where... The Meadowlands? Where the Devils play. It's not far from there. Camden? No. It's... Fuck. Where... Lodi? Glen Danzig's hometown?

stuck in Lodi again. Well, what was crazy is driving through Arizona, like we stopped in Winslow, Arizona, and we're like, what is this statue all these old people keep taking pictures with? Newark. It's in fucking Newark. Newark. I'm like, what is this statue people keep taking pictures with? And we go over and I'm like, Glenn Frey. I'm like, was Glenn Frey from Winslow, Arizona? And then it hits you. It's like...

I'm standing on a corner in Winslow, Arizona. Yeah. Holy shit. They made a whole fucking Eagles backstand for people to take pictures with. Book it. Book it, Gabe. But I'm excited because...

Eddie Kingston's Emotional Return

We're going to get a fucking... We're going to get an interaction, a promo from Eddie and Joe, and then we're going to get the match. Baby. Baby. And, you know, it's... It's that thing of there were some little murmurs when Eddie first came back. Everyone's like, how come Eddie's not? It's like, let the man fucking. Dip a toe in the water here. Yeah, let him ease into it. And then boom, we're back right where he belongs at the top of the card. Let him tag with Hook for a little minute. Oh, Hook.

My one buddy was like, so Hook's gimmick is just, he's Orange Cassidy without the glasses. He's a man child. I might not be too far off. I'm still convinced Hook is bald and has a comb over. Hook is one of those dudes. All right. I'm going to look it up. How old do we think Hook is? I think he's 23. Really?

Yeah. I see. This is where you and I differ. I was going to say, I think it's, they, they try to present him like he's 23 and then it turns out he's going to be like 35 conspiracy theory. Okay. hook aew yeah the first thing that comes up you put in hook aew and the the google's like girlfriend does it show the picture with that strip club throwing dollar bills at that woman's backside? No, but it should. Hook is 26 years old. Oh, he's old as the day is long. From Massapequa.

Not Red Hook? No, he's not from Red Hook? Seems like he should be from Red Hook. Yeah, it feels like he probably lives in Red Hook with his dad. I understand, historically speaking, why you feel like this is a comb-over, but I think this is actually, this is just... you know a style that they are doing now it looks as though he's got a full head it is so funny full hair they are still like you want to talk about like things being scrubbed from the internet

you know, like Rob Delaney said on Kimmel or like, um, there was a girl that was in our class at Fordham, uh, Diana Davis, who there was a, if you Google her name, it just comes up with like the article about like she worked for some congressman. And then there was a, a vanity fair article where she, she must've just gotten, I don't know, fucking.

She just spilled the beans on everything. About all the partying and whatnot that was going on. And she wound up getting canned over it. But there is no trace of this woman. Otherwise on the internet, it's incredible. Damn. But the idea that Wikipedia, and this is all Taz doing it himself. The idea that Wikipedia says he was born in Brooklyn. New York. I know for a fact he is from Long Island. Uh-oh. And then there's no... Please. Come on.

One of the women I worked with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Huh? Vamp? I can't, Vamp. Oh, God, why would he leave? One of the women I worked with at MTV specifically was like, oh my God, you watch wrestling. What was Peter? I can't even call him Taz. His name is Peter. He was, oh God, they say he's from Red Hook. He was from fucking Rakonkama. You know, she's like, oh yeah, he wanted to be a football player. He kissed me on my parents' front.

front porch, but he was too small to be a football player, so he got into wrestling. If you're watching on the Patreon, I do have Zubaz on. That's why you subscribe to the Patreon, so you can get this video. Danhausen, on the one hand, is 35 years old, so I was close. AD. Nick Wayne is 20. How old do you think Orange Cassidy is? Oh, let's see. Been wrestling for a minute. Yeah. I bet Orange Cassidy's 36. Wow. Look at you. I don't know what I would have guessed, but he is 41. Oh, okay.

Good on him. I find great on him. Yeah, man. I mean, there's not a lot of youth movement here in the wrestling business on top on either company. You got Brakeer. Do you know how old Eddie Kingston is? Oh. If Orange is 41, then Eddie's got... I bet Eddie's fucking... Is he 44? See, I was thinking more like 47.

Defy Show Concerns and AI Ads

And? And the answer is 43. Oh. Eddie, aging like fine wine. I think he's getting younger. I think he's finally... I feel like he's healing his body. He's starting to heal his mind. He's starting to accept the love of the audience. He's going to be as dangerous as he's ever been. I mean, when he's... I wonder if you ever won. I love speculating on Aide Kingston. I wonder if he ever thinks back on, you remember when he got his first title shot in AEW? It might have even been against Punk.

or not no maybe not whatever it was uh when he like wore that crazy fucking tribute to Masawa outfit where he was like all white and green and the big shorts and all that it's like it was so strange and it was never done again and I wonder if he's ever like why the fuck did I do that or no

I bet you he's got that outfit hanging up in his fucking apartment. Well, no, he's got a house, right? That was part of the thing during the pandemic. He was like, he just bought a house. His mortgage, yeah. Yeah. Well, I wonder, too, whoever thinks about that exploding ring match when he... He saved it. Yeah. That promo he cut the next week completely saved it. You know, that it was... Kenny and the elite like fucking with them and that he had a panic attack he completely like

You talk about it all the time. Like if you watch a movie, you're like, you know what? That didn't make sense. You could have just fixed that with one line, just one little piece of exposition. Eddie Kingston gets it. He's like, he starts telling a story about like, you know, some cop saying he's going to like kill him or.

crack his head open and he's like i felt it in my chest all of a sudden everything went black that's how i felt you know i was there to try to save my friend and i just went i went out yeah Good on him. Eddie's the king. He's the real king stone. I hope he comes back to defy. We'd like to see him back at the lodge room. It's a historical place for him and me. That's right. Imagine if he wore those pants and he's like, where is he? Like he's got the mic. He's like, where is he?

I went to war in these and I'm about to do it again. And I hope they are able to, maybe with the less tickets, they're able to... bring in a ring that's like 17 by 17 this time instead of fucking that that remember how small the ring was it was it was uh disturbing how small the room like i was like this this has to be dangerous a tiny little ring But we'll see. Not enough ring. What you're defying is decent ring size. That's what you're defying right now. Size matters.

I will be very obviously sad if that, if they, like at some point, like how close to Showtime do they decide we didn't sell enough tickets, we got to call it? Like, are they committed? Like, even if nobody's there, the show must go on? Well, this is the thing, and I'm pulling for it, obviously. Obviously. But, like, I was kind of surprised that they were coming back at all based on the last time, because last time was not a fucking gangbusters.

But that was at least, they were going over against the World Series. Right? But I don't know if people would have known that when they fucking bought the ticket. Unless you're saying people bought tickets and just didn't turn up.

Nevertheless, let's just hope. Are we going to go to that Mexican place beforehand? Oh, we could. You know what? Maybe we should... take it upon ourselves let's do some flyering at the gcw show on saturday try to get these tickets sold for defy just like you me and like those other dudes from i'll go down to kinko's and make some flyers and then no no ai and then um we'll hand them out GCW and try to drum up some interest. Dude. There was a... Where were we? I think this is when we were in...

Declining Live Music Performances

We were flipping channels. So we were in... God, what's the town? We weren't quite in Williams, Arizona, but we were nearby. At a Holiday Inn near the Grand Canyon. And this was on the way home. And we stopped and we got some food. And we were watching Castaway. It was on TV.

Oh, yeah. And Jack had never seen it. And it was one of those moments where it's like, man, I would have never thought to show him this movie. But I'm like, this is perfect. Right. And he's the perfect age for it. And like, honest to God, man, when he's on the raft. And Wilson like falls into the water. Jack just goes, Oh no. I like, I grabbed Glennis's leg. I'm just like, Oh my God. It's just too fucking good.

During the commercial breaks, there was an ad for like lumber liquidators or something. And it was the most disgusting, insulting AI slop you've ever seen. like a thousand times worse than the coca-cola spot where it was just this llama uh talking about you know it's it's the line doing that ad too buddy oh llama sorry Llama's got a new podcast. With the Russian accent? We got Lana on a llama. We got Mero on a sparrow.

The voice wasn't even synced up to the mouth. I mean, it was just... So it's like all the musical guests on SNL this season. Oh my God. It's just pure slop. Very insulting. I mean, I don't... uh i the i've watched most of snl this season against my better judgment at times but yeah i just can't believe how the musical guests like not only are none of them

performing live but they also yeah it's just not even like it's like either whatever synced up or they're not even trying or whatever it's just crazy but it's wild because when i go through these videotapes and i find old not just on snl but like i found an old grammys

where I'm like holy shit all of these people are just playing instruments and singing into fucking microphones it was I'm like and there's no like choreography it was just people just fucking performing with bands and singing i'm like god damn what happened yeah i remember a solid gold they never used to fucking perform live either even if it was quiet right right lip syncing yeah i just i found a it's a the anniversary of um

American bandstand. And it is a mix. It's a mix of we're lip syncing or we are just singing into the thing. Singing. Singing. Did you find time to enter the vault? No.

Family Visits and LA Sightseeing

Okay, that's cool, man. I'm just double checking. I'm on the clock with my brother now. He's in town. Russell's here now. Are you waiting for him to wake up or is he already out and about? A couple things at play here. They just got in yesterday. My brother was talking about the toll the plane had taken on his body, which I understood. He's a large gentleman. Your niece is with him? Yeah.

He was also saying, you know, that whatever, he was speculating that he would be doing some sleeping. But, you know, if he's still on Michigan time, it's almost, what did we talk about here?

almost one o'clock so but i text him before we began it was like yeah i'm gonna record and then i'll hit you up and i didn't hear back so either he felt like it wasn't necessary or maybe he's fucking just ripping back there right now bro is he ripping back there right now might be ripping but he all he can talk about is best fish taco he likes going to that show no no no drugs well yeah was he want to buy some acid from the dj

No. He wants to die in there, man. Oh, I see. But also my niece apparently... I've never heard this before, but she wants to go get a picture in front of the Charmed House. The Charmed House. Okay. And it's like, oh, well, she's like 22 or whatever. Like, I guess she must have caught on a charm somewhere in there. But also on the same street as the Thriller House, the Charmed House is. Really? What part of town?

Angelino Heights. You know where I've always wanted to swing by is the Brady Bunch house. Oh, dude. So you know they completely redid that, right? And the inside looks... just like it did on the show that's freaky and now they charge people to go in um but it's like 250 bucks or something but they like a head yes

But they like, and I think they also do the thing where it's like a portion goes to a chair, you know, so they try to reconcile it. Sure. But like, I've seen the images, dude. And it's like, I don't know how they took a house that the inside was not that. Right. And then we're able to do it, but they have. And it's like, it's a mind blower. It's not 250 bucks, but it's fucking crazy. Fuck, man. That's a lot of money.

yeah to walk around and like take some pictures that's like uh that's like nosebleed seats at any wwe show now yeah right like you got to decide which one do i want to do here um well in that case uh oh angelino heights yes that's where it is the um charmed house yeah how how was it in the room

Jey Uso's Storyline Struggles

Well, I know how it appeared in the room, but in your particular row in the four seats around you, how was it when in the middle of a war? Oh, yeah. Suddenly, one of the good guys that I'm supposed to be cheering for decides to throw a party and just yeet on top of the ring. Yeah. On top of the cage. I'm pretty sure I was the only person that was aghast. I was the only person who was visibly upset about it.

Everyone else was just like, it's a show, man. We make movies. For serious, right? Went crazy. It's not about having great matches. It's about making moments.

I'm like, that was... Can you imagine if he had fallen off of the fucking cage when he was immortal? Well, also, I know you don't want to get into it, but if you're fucking Jey Uso... yeah you got problems dog because they aren't really great over there at telling the story of the person who's super frustrated because they can't fucking win that's like not a great road to be headed down like you know he

he's like bent out of shape he's throwing the fucking prime bottles around then you go to commercial and then later he's just walking around talking to himself and it also puts Jackie Redman in a spot where it's like not an actress. And it was like, all right, well, good luck, dude. Yeah. Sorry about your damn, bad, damn luck.

Braun Breaker's Star Potential

Vince. You feel me? Who's your favorite wrestler? I think I got to go with Braun Breaker, dude, because he last night when he got the mic, I was like, here we go.

but the motherfucker like it was it felt and maybe it's just because i'm thinking of him as like uh one of his older his father his uncle or whatever but i was like this is it just felt like uh an old school wrestling promo in that it wasn't necessarily perfect but it was really good to me i don't know i was i was stoked about it and obviously he's fucking he's good in the ring and um

And I'm down to have him fucking get made on Punk's back. Yeah, dude. Yeah, but I'm down with it. We've seen way too many. uh you know next generation or junior you know sons of superstars to know that that ain't enough right you know this guy has the it factor and maybe even a situation where ultimately it's better to not have saddled him with the name you know

To just go like, it's Braun Breaker, and if you know, you know, we might intimate, but it's not like in your face, like this is fucking a Steiner. Oh, in a different era, he would have had the Letterman jacket on. I mean, forget it.

Right. Or the chain mail, you know? I mean... The big booty daddy! The big booty nephew? No, but thank... thank god thank god you know yeah no it's it's he's and it and it is perfect that he is in that with like uh the paul hayman you know the guy who shoves kids around uh oh my god No heat on him. Heat on the security guard for letting somebody through, even if it was a child. Which, you know, is not unfair. Right. Sure.

I've watched that footage so many times. Because at first I was like, I don't know, it's the cop that fucking dragged him. And then I looked, I'm like, no, no, no. Heyman put hands on him. Blasted him, yeah.

Back in the day, the kid would have gotten a fucking cell phone across the head. I mean... you know my god lord knows they'd have taken backstage and stretched him dude hayman's like the only one still around from that era of like there's rooms in the back with no windows for this reason right specifically

Dusty Rhodes' Backstage Genius

When we advanced the building. The last time I saw it, Dusty Rhodes. It was me, him, and Cody backstage getting ready to do a promo seg with Big Show. And it was like... You know, Vince approved the script. We go to talent. They're all like, this fucking sucks. And I'm like, yeah, I agree. And then Dusty, the wheels start turning.

And he's like, well, how about this? What if a big show? Cody, what do you think was the most embarrassing Dash and Cody Rhodes segment that you ever did? He's like, oh, no question. The one where I'm putting on the lip.

the lip balm he said what if we did that what a big show is like hey you know oh i've never won a wrestlemania match well you this this is you this is who you really are you know you want to talk about who i really am this is who you really are like we bang it out you know i type it up i get it approved by vince or hunter or somebody we get it squared up with the truck and then we're not in gorilla

this is this is before they had like the big big gorilla position they have now that they show you all the time this is but it was still like you had to walk up some steps and then now you're in the gorilla position but so like on the bottom of the steps there was just like a hallway to get into gorilla and it's like me cody and dusty standing there talking and somewhere in the building somebody had jumped the railing

or something. I'd be curious to even pinpoint if this was a raw. I assume it's a raw. It feels like a raw. It feels like a raw. somebody if it even got on the air but like somebody jumped the railing and got hauled off and we're watching on the monitor and then cody starts and then dusty's just like oh man he's so lucky it ain't 30 years ago And Cody starts egging on the old man. He's just like, you and Murdoch, they would have brought him back to you and Murdoch, right? Oh, forget it. Yeah.

Eddie Kingston's Authenticity

Too good. And your favorite wrestler, Matt. I got to go with Eddie Kingston. I love that. They put the gas back on him, and not because he's in a stadium stampede and he's trying to kill somebody. That promo, man, I was just like, he's been back, but it... That was the moment I was like, oh, now he's back. Also, I chart his well-being by his fade. 100%. His hair and his beard, everything was tight. I said, Eddie's feeling pretty good today.

Even the fact that he addressed, because he's addressed this before, like a couple years ago, when it was just like all the adulation and the love he gets from the people.

that he said it was it was hard for him to accept it or even believe it you know and the fact that he halfway addressed it you know where he's like he's like all you people saying that you love me no i love you I was just like, this is, I mean, I got emotional watching it, but there's not an inauthentic moment when he's staring down the barrel of the fucking camera, just being like, I have no peace in my life except for when I'm fighting in this ring.

I'm just like, fuck, this guy is so fucking good at everything. The world is cold, dude. You better bundle up. Winter is coming. And so am I.

Episode Wrap-Up and Promotions

Hey, listen, enough with the ejaculate on here today. Well, you're biased, Vince. Tom Sibley is in the witness protection program. Please. They can't hurt you anymore. Where can the kids find you online? At Vince Averill on Twitter, Vince.Averill on Instagram. This is your old pal Matt McCarthy saying, follow me on all forms of social media, at McCarthyRedhead. And if you want a membership card to the video garage,

I'm typing up a bunch more this week and access to full unedited videotapes. You can check out that Dick Clark American Bandstand tape I just talked about. You know us, big dog. And we will see everyone a little bit later this week for the big Q&A 0.5. So until then, take care and brush your hair.

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