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WeWatchWrestling Issue #637

Nov 26, 20251 hr 10 min
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Summary

In a unique crossover event, hosts from We Watch Wrestling and Dorkside of the Ring delve into a wide range of wrestling topics. They explore historical moments, the evolving landscape of independent wrestling, and share personal experiences from live shows. The discussion also covers recent pay-per-views like AEW Full Gear and WWE Survivor Series, offering insights into booking decisions, wrestler physiques, and the challenges of attending live events, all while sharing funny behind-the-scenes stories.

Episode description

This week Vince is all alone, so he invited Adam and Mat from Dorkside of the Ring to link up for the crossover event of the season. They discuss how indies have changed, Full Gear, Survivor Series, and so much more!!!

Transcript

Podcast Crossover and Intro

watch wrestling podcast and it's without matt which is almost fucking unprecedented this might only be the second or third time ever um but fortunately For everyone involved, we're doing a crossover this week with our dear friends over at the dork side of the ring. Matt Marbury and Adam Tollefson are here, boys. Hey, thanks for having us. Hey, everybody.

thanks for having me thanks for having us it's a nice little you know you guys probably got some people we don't have we got some people maybe somebody learned something and not since uh dudley went to the bike shop has there been such a special episode jadson's flintstones but we went nevertheless if people don't know what we're talking about it's a tv show called different strokes from the 80s uh we're dealing with at least one old man here but um yes sir dork side of the ring we want

On This Day in Wrestling History

watch wrestling podcast enough power to destroy another planet oh it's when the mega power shook hands yes exactly but never broke up but never broke up um so cool man fucking here we are let's do it like like whatever we'll just talk about wrestling right let's do that we do we we like to start our show off with a little uh on this day in pro wrestling history segment we kind of run down i think we've been we've been

No. Yeah, over five years now. We're approaching 300. Yeah, coming quick on the 300th episode. And I can't wait for the day where I don't have to search out the wrestling history anymore. year seven, I should be able to just go to my old notes, right? Yeah. Oh, so now I thought you were throwing a dart at Adam here. I thought you were like, I wish I wasn't the one that always said anyway. Also very true. I also do physical notes.

But yeah, we could start with that and then see where this journey takes us. Sound good? I'm down. All right. Well, as we sit down to record today, it is November 26th. Because we're fudging it. 2025 and... On this day in pro wrestling history. All right. So you're going into this. I was like, I was going to tell you guys.

You're not dorks. You shouldn't call yourself dorks, but maybe, you know, we'll see. We'll see how it goes. We are. 1987, the very first WWF Survivor Series took place from the Coliseum. And when you think of a Coliseum, where do you think of? Long Island, Ohio. This will be the second pay-per-view added to the WWF yearly calendar coming off the heels of WrestleMania three. That's the first time they added another one.

SummerSlam and Rumble will be added the next year in 1988. Four-match card. All four matches were elimination tags. Andre the Giant was the sole survivor of the main event. Last eliminating... eliminating Bam Bam Bigelow from Team Hogan. On the very same night, this was the time where the NWA Jim Crockett Promotions decided they were going to try their hand at pay-per-view.

More Wrestling History: Indies, WCW

Oh, that's right. So they present their Starcade show. Before that, so Starcade was already there. It existed. But for the first, I think, four or five years, it was closed circuit only. Vince strong-armed all the cable companies and basically made them choose a side, and most of them chose WWF, obviously. So the buy rate was really terrible. The show, good. It was that Windy City show.

Also, yeah, held in Chicago. First time it was held outside of Greensboro, North Carolina. Rock and Roll Express defeated the Midnight Express in a scaffold match. That's right. Classic. Dusty Rhodes defeated Lex Luger for the U.S. title, and that was in a steel cage. And also in a cage, Ric Flair defeated Jimmy Garvin for the World Heavyweight Championship. Jimmy Jam is there. 1994. Adam's going to love this one. Three days after winning the WWF World Championship at Survivor Series.

old Bob Backlund drops it in Madison Square Garden to your boy Kevin Nash. You gotta be a big Kevin Nash guy too, right? I like Kevin Nash. I don't... not not as much as like an actual wrestler like a a guy i would like seek out matches from necessarily but i definitely i i am i am down with kevin nash on whatever level

He may not be the best wrestler, but he's the coolest. Big Daddy cool. Big Daddy. This was the day that that was coined as well. That's right. He turns baby face at Survivor Series. He drops Bob Backlund in eight seconds. And then at the end of the show, like grabbed the mic and says, Big Daddy Cool is here or something. Right. Something like that. But to the cover of the WWE magazine with him just cheesing and just looking like a dork. And it was like, yeah.

He's their guy, I guess. Massive day. This is a massive day in the history of pro wrestling. Is there more? there's more 1995 oh oh it's not just okay okay i get it i understand you're going through like like okay yeah i understand now it just took me a second you're good and that's all right this is how this works for me i don't always understand that's sort of the thing i have going on

Us too. Smoky mountain wrestling presented Thanksgiving thunder from the Knoxville city Coliseum. It's going to be their last show. The promotion ever holds in the final segment. This is fun. The roster come out. And they all dropped Jim Cornette with their finishers. Oh, nice. And then the referee, what's his name? Mark Curtis. I don't know what he was there. Mark Curtis pins Cornette while the entire roster count the one, two, three.

thus ending smoky mountain wrestling for good fun send off yeah if you know that's your last show yeah why not and this is this is like two things that come to mind uh one ivp videos that we fucking love they always they're i think i think the black friday sale might be still going on but you can get every fucking smoky mountain show uh the other thing i was thinking is we're like

literally probably moments away from Meltzer reposting his Thanksgiving Day article from whatever year that originally came out, which is also awesome. Regardless of how you feel about Dave Meltzer, you can probably read that article on there this week and fucking enjoy it.

yeah i'll definitely check that out and that's every year it's the same thing isn't it's the same story it's this article that i can't remember when it first came out and everyone was fucking blown away and then subsequently it's sort of just like a thanksgiving now thing that it just gets reposted on the site

Nice. We're getting close to the end. Oh, sorry. I didn't mean that. No, you're good. You're good. 1995, again, World War III, WCW's infamous triple ring clusterfuck, if you will, takes place. Macho Man Randy Savage wins the vacant WCW world title in that match, last eliminating the one-man gang. Wow. Damn. He almost made it. Right? It's almost the next WCW champion in 1990. What is it? Five? 1995.

Five years going. Last but not least, we'll do this one. 2011, Resistance Pro Wrestling ran their debut show at the Excalibur Nightclub in Chicago, Illinois. RPW owned by Billy Corgan. This was, I guess, his first foray into pro wrestling. Obviously, he's done a lot with it since then. Lots of notable talent on the card. El Generico. Teddy Hart.

Kyle O'Reilly, Colt Cabana, Necro Butcher, Kevin Steen, Harry Smith, and the Briscoes all making their presence felt on that one. Nice. 2011? 2011. Wow. Not once we saw, that's for sure.

State of Independent Wrestling

No, I've never seen any of Billy's promotions at all up until he got NWA, I think. or bought. Yeah, there was always talk that he was in bed with TNA or trying to do something with TNA for a while. Yeah, he did. He was out there a few times. He was a part of it, a commissioner or something I do remember years ago.

Yeah, when he was doing it, I feel like it was sort of the... it was west side gun before west side gun where it was like this rock and roll guy was doing this like like presenting it a little differently and it was you know how i just i can't even put my finger on now but i just remember there was some

something to the presentation and whatever that was sort of you know we're we're gonna do a new ever you know ever since ecw right everyone's having gonna have a revolution right um in wrestling or whatever but but it does like reading those names you just uh like at there was a point where i was like oh well maybe i'm just not like as in the loop now but like i really just think that like the indies are just not at all where they were

no you know it's like it's not for lack of paying attention like they just haven't regrown or something like it's and it makes you wonder like gcw is is is obviously one you hear about um these other ones are just like going away these like prestige and these these ones that were seemingly very strong it's like it's a strange time and uh you just wonder like

what mania week looks like i guess it's gcw and then whatever female japanese promotion or something it's just uh there's a couple of people you hear about but overall like it just seems like the indies are kind of a little bit chilling right now Yeah, they're even more indie than they were. I think there's still a lot of these little shows, but you're right. Those mid-level indies or higher-end indies that you would see pop up, you just don't.

but i think it's also because you don't hear these names like like you would be like oh who's this guy and you would continue to hear like a few like be like oh these are like sort of the guys right now or the women or whatever it is and um and you're like so it just seems like that isn't happening so then the companies aren't being propped up by by the names you know yeah even gcw i feel is kind of in a lull i haven't

I haven't been to a show. We were actually going to go. They're running a show the night before Wrestle Kingdom in Chicago. Wrestle Dream. I don't know. It is Kingdom. Yeah. January 3rd. That's right. We were going to grab some tickets for it. Apparently they went on sale like a week or two ago and they're gone. Which I was shocked because that's a ways out yet. And it's a small room, but still they haven't really announced a whole lot of talent.

but yeah they seem to they seem to go on being gcw still and and for like i know like in la there was a while there where it would just be sold out and now you know it's it usually gets there but look but like like you're saying you're like i can wait and grab a fucking standing room you know um but it's also you know like i'm there's one coming up like next week and i'm looking at it

and and again it's like it's me but i'm going like oh cool jack evans is on the card i'll i'll i want to see that you know and then there's like a couple of the folks but like the fucking honest truth is like the last couple that i've been to um i'm not sure i saw the whole show it's just like it's super long they'll put matches in places where you're going like i really feel like

it might have behooved you to save this one you know except that maybe the crowd's gonna be fucking you know pulling out their sleeping bags by the time you get to it but like i don't know yeah it's like it's not it doesn't feel super hot but But it's fun. It's usually fun. Yeah, it's always a great time. I'm glad they're able to go all over and it's cool. I saw a graphic the other week or something where it was all the states they had been to and they're not far from...

Completing all 50, which is wild. Did they or are they going to Alaska? Oh, I think I saw that, yeah. And I want to say Hawaii too. Yeah, it's crazy. But it was almost one of those things, too, where they were running so much that you kind of got burnt out on it. And you're like, yeah, this is kind of what I saw last month or the month before.

We need them. I mean, like you said, all these other ones that are kind of higher up or seems like they are going away and it's kind of, and it does feel like there was a point there were like the cards we were getting in LA were like, and then and then there was like a point where you're like oh man we're not getting that anymore like well i wish i could see that one that's in fucking yeah this town this week or whatever but um yeah i don't know it's uh

Personal Wrestling Viewing Hiatus

it's when you anytime you like look at it uh i mean you guys must encounter it all the time revisiting history but you get some of these indie cards and you're like jesus christ yeah like that's like that's everyone who's in a fucking big spot on tv now you know and that was like 10 years ago the ones that always get me are because i never watched really any of it so we were

We were both completely out of watching pro wrestling from about 2001 to about 2011. It was like the 10-year gap that a lot of people seem to have. I hate to say it, but it was CM Punk that kind of brought me back. I think that's what kind of brought me back, brought me back. But Edge, it had come across my radar that Edge was going to retire right after that mania that year.

So I kind of popped it on and like watched the whole thing. And then I would sporadically pop in, but it was that CM Punk pipe bomb in like June of 2011 that really got me going. And I copped tickets for me and Adam. We went down there. He had not really watched anything. Yeah, I walked him blind to Money in the Bank 2011. When was the last time you had watched anything or what? I will catch it here and there because I was a fan growing up and everything. But live, it had been...

Since 1996, probably, or something. Oh, wow. Yeah, it had been a long time. And when was the last time, Matt, you had gone live? Probably the same. No, no, no, no. I had gone to like a house show in Madison. And I only remember this because there was a radio station like shock jock in the morning that were given away.

ringside seats to wwf and stone cold steve austin's super hot at the time he's just kind of cooking it's it's probably 98 99 and these guys they have this whole list of shit that that you got to do for this A scavenger hunt. And one of my buddies calls and wakes me up early, early in the morning. And he's like, hey, we need to get these tickets.

It was all sorts of random things like deer antlers, a shopping cart, women's panties, a Doors album. The last thing needed on the list, I think there was 10 items, was you had to have your grandmother call in. and sing acdc highway to hell wow so i woke my grandmother up and Hold her the lyric, you know, hey, scribble these down a little bit. And this is before we write this down. And my friends are going to be there, too. Yes.

But yeah, I'm like, they might call you because this is, like I said, before cell phones, this is all landline, 1999, whatever. And I wasn't living.

at home she raised me but i was not living at home at the time yeah and of course he gets there with the shopping cart full of stuff and probably looked like new jack walking into the radio station i wasn't there and they had to do like the three-way call thing so like they call me i call my grandma she starts singing highway to hell but she doesn't know the melody or anything right no i just kind of i kind of talked her through it a little bit and i'm like well how much do they really need

right right you just need the good shit so so she did it and we got tickets and we they said ringside i thought we're gonna be front row we were like fourth row it's it's fine classic you know stone cold steve austin coming out and cracking beers and That was for sure my last show up until 2011, Money in the Bank.

Live Show Memories and Discoveries

But you guys watched all the way through. You were watching Attitude Era? No, you didn't. You completely stopped. We fell off right at the end of Attitude Era. Yeah, you were, but through 99 or whatever. Basically, when Stone Cold turned... and everyone else stopped watching, you stopped watching. That's pretty much it. That's absolutely the point or shortly thereafter where most people got the fuck out. There's...

I mean, actually, one of the fucking best matches ever on Raw is that tag match where fucking Triple H tours quads, which is after that. Obviously, it's like him and Stone Cold are teaming up. But it doesn't take too long into... well i mean i guess no no that was that that was before ah fuck no it would have been after right yeah yeah so so in 2000 somewhere in 2000 late 2001 or 2002 most people were fucking peaced

Yes. And that's where we're at too. We have, you guys have the raw vault. We have the SmackDown symposium because the raw thing before the Netflix stuff. So we also vent on a similar thing. And so we're actually coming up to that pretty close. They just did that. What was it? We just finished the Invading Survivor Series. We do that whatever happened on this week in 2001. 24 years ago. That should be coming up eventually.

My whole point in talking about how our laps or whatever is you go through the history stuff and you hear all these... chikara cards or these dragon gate usa cards and you're just like i didn't see any of this i don't know where it all is right now i should seek it out but i don't right in the day but man you look at some of the talent on those cards and you're just

Flabbergasted. Yeah. When we used to get the, uh, like the tape catalogs back in the day and then you'd all these matches, you know, you're like, uh, USWA. Memphis, all this stuff. And you're like, that guy was down there. There's so much stuff we just haven't seen. It's coming out every day. It's pure luck, I suppose, that I just was there.

you know i had gone to new york not related to fucking wrestling in any any way shape or form other than i was a fan of it but and then it was just where everything you know like i arrive in january of 06 and it's like you know i go to my first ring of honor show at that point which is already like well in you know well into the promotion but it's like you know fucking nigel and all these people and

and then that's being in new york philly's right there so you're just like all that shit is happening so i just was fucking by pure luck just there for it and then i moved to la and pwg had already been fucking rock and rolling but it really like it's now in recita and is just the epicenter of of wrestling and i just i just have

floated along this fucking lazy river and been like, oh, this just happens to be here as well. Right place, right time, yeah. Maybe Vince Averill is the straw that stirs the drink in the pro wrestling world and we just don't know it. You're like, what?

Embarrassing Thanksgiving Wrestling

Why is Vince moving to Decatur? Just stay close. Stay close. You'll see. Trust me. Trust me. Oh, man. Yeah. So I don't, um, my, my memories of Thanksgiving wrestling is usually, uh, being embarrassed. Uh, you know, like things have kind of died down. And so then I'm like, I definitely want to try to watch this right now.

and then you're like oh no this isn't what it's like really this is what it usually is like uh there's not always a gravy bowl man right or even like just other shit that's going on you're just like oh can everyone please leave the room i don't

pull the tv take it in the older room yeah i don't i don't have that memory of the the family being like oh thank the wrestling's coming on let's all fucking it was just like vince is gonna do this weird thing in here if anyone wants to come through otherwise we'll just go over here

The boys are downstairs watching wrestling. I can remember putting on like a tape on in the den in my grandma's house when she's got people over for Thanksgiving and they're like, they're just shaking their heads. They're like, what if a fucking kid up?

Yeah. i'm like i don't understand brett versus owen wrestlemania 10 this is a classic oh well you're and you're actually put you you've got like good shit going on like i'm talking about just whatever turns up on smackdown or something yeah and and i'm also a fucking fully realized adult

you know, and they're just going like this fucking loser, you know, they're going to have a food fight. I know it. Did you, uh, I'm sure you watch blood and guts. Would you think, or not blood and guts? Well, it might as well have been blood and guts.

AEW Full Gear Review

dude like full gear is like hey blood and guts hold my beer well listen man that was a fucking great show but uh i also was just like what if it was only two matches with blood you know like And I'm like, I don't fucking think I'm a prude, but I was just like, why does every match have to have significant blood in it?

you know at the end of that joe match it's like it looked like he just got shot in the forehead point with a gun dude it was like it was the fuck they need to name the pay-per-view mood of scale next year it was like why yeah um but that being said it was fucking i i thought it was another like aw does not fucking miss on pay-per-view they don't yeah no and yeah it was great it also helps with i my expectations were a little low i was

I don't know. I didn't think on paper it looked like it was going to be that great of a show, but at the same time, you're like, again, they never miss. But I always think if your expectations are a little lower, it makes it better at the end of the day. Sure.

dude there's nothing better than going and being like i mean it's i'm gonna watch it and then being like oh shit you know and that that to me feels like um at least one or two aew shows every year you're like oh well how are they gonna how are they gonna get back here and it's like oh it's a rematch and whatever and and then and then you get going and you're like oh this is fucking sweet yeah um are you guys going to the one in chicago

Yes. We haven't got tickets yet, but we're going to be there. Yeah. That's like... right that's like two days after christmas or something right i know it's gonna be a tough putt for a lot of people that aren't just in the area i think yeah i mean i don't fucking my brother comes to town in december i won't even go near the airport i'm like get find your way to my house i can't

I can't even be bothered going near that fucking treacherous hell hole. Like it would have to be, you know, it'll have to be December 23rd and it's the greatest card ever assembled. And then I'll have to figure it out. But otherwise, like I just, yeah, you can't swing that.

Upcoming Live Events and Logistics

Oh, and it's great that they're doing running the now arena. It's so weird because Chicago, it's not that far from us, but now arena that is 55 minutes from our house. oh yeah on win trust and it's another hour to get you know through all the bullshit right but they're running now right i think they're running now for that that's right they are because i the lady who i've gotten the sweets from was like you sure are you sure

We're going to have a holiday spread for you. Can you please? You're one of the only idiots that does this. Can you please?

We might need her number by the time this thing's done. Maybe Mel just be in a suite by herself. Hey, man, there's worse fates. That's right. Yeah, and then the other one is... that they're uh bringing the fucking elimination chamber yep which again like you know i don't know how many mortgages you're working on but it's like it's not a cheap thing to go to a fucking wwe show but um

that's one where i've like i've never been to elimination chamber and i fucking love the elimination chamber but i just wonder live we've been to one it's not bad oh really horrible but it is one of those things where you got to kind of be a little close yeah yeah The closer, the better. Yeah, I remember thinking that going in too.

I don't know, man. It's a big difference when you're at home and they got all the angle shots and we got there and it was like, I don't know. But I remember being like, yeah, this was decent. I don't remember if that was Chicago or Milwaukee. I don't feel like it was Milwaukee. Yeah. That was probably 2012 would be my guess.

Jericho was pretty hot at the time. Him and Punk had their angle where he's trying to force Punk to drink and he's calling out his family and all that stuff. Had to be right around that time, right? Yeah.

uh i because i'm going to survivor series on oh that's what i was going to say so funny so you know matt's like not going to be here this week and so then uh i'm chilling and and matt hits me up and he's like yo man i'd like to throw my name in the hat for uh the show next week and i'm like dude you're trying to come to survivor series like

I was like, let me see what's up, you know? And he's like, no, no, no. Record the podcast show show. Like, oh, right, right, right. Yes, of course. To be fair, I Googled where I'm like, where is survivors? I was like, maybe I could get there. But yeah, like.

me about that and I go he googled he went and checked he did the schedule you know he's like well maybe if I if I get on the train now um But yeah, it's one of those things where I'm sitting a few rows back behind home plate, but I'm like, the cage, you know?

Wrestler Physiques and Eating Habits

like what what's going to be going on here for me visually in the cage but we'll see it'll be it'll be a good time regardless but um but yes uh full gear swerve strickland is massive he is he's massive enormous that man is enormous look like swerve eight earlier swerve like he's just well that's what i just read just read something this morning where he was like uh

you know this trainer i'm working with i just i'm eating everything in sight and he's he told me not to he's like it's he goes it actually really sucks to maintain it because i'll be like laying in bed and be like i need to eat like one more time to fucking you know uh which yeah it's like it's like if you're Brian Cage you're just you're a prisoner of your of your body you're like walking around with a fucking gallon of water in your hand you're fucking about to eat your next meal oh saw that

firsthand that's like uh i've definitely told this story but i i shot a commercial with jj watt one time and i got there he was doing like three spots and i was like in the middle one and so i got there at lunch and i see someone going to his trailer with like two plates of fucking chicken breasts and then we shot right after lunch

And it probably took less than an hour. I want to say maybe whatever, but, and as soon as we were done, someone was standing there with fucking Chipotle that just had fucking steak. stacked out and he sat down immediately he walked like two steps off sat down and just started eating again i was like fuck dude and he's not even like ripped ripped right oh no university wisconsin's own that's right

Brian Cage and Jericho Cruise

Sweetheart of a guy. We saw Brian Cage take out an entire buffet on the Jericho cruise. Every slice of pizza. Every slice. But to be fair. He was in an argument with his girl at the time, we think. It was her. Santos. That's right. She kind of stormed off, and I think he took his anger out on that buffet. There was not one slice left. Didn't they have a child with them, too? I thought there was a kid. I don't know. They do. I wouldn't put it past them. You know, it's funny.

and this is just sort of based off of the internet, but also, you know, having seen them on some level together, not on a cruise, but, uh, her cages girl and fucking Matt Hardy's girl seem like. bro you are you live on eggshells and you're you're way too big to be standing on them like you're just like waiting for the next time you're about to get in trouble that's what it feels like to me i also got that stance

damn dude you guys went on the jericho cruise that's hype uh but my favorite parts is that of that whole experience like there's a lot of fun stuff on the cruise but the first thing you got to do when you get in there is you it's mandatory everybody has to attend this safety meeting

oh right so you get in there and like it's this auditorium and you're looking around and it's yeah like brian cage is sitting right across the aisle from me with this girl and i swear to god a baby and you just you just look around and you see all these faces

And some of them you don't see again the entire time they're on the cruise because some of them kind of hid until it was time to do their show or there was all sorts of podcasts and whatnot running. This was the first one. So they had Ring of Honor and TNA, right? Yeah.

So you got to see a lot of cool dream matches and stuff. I don't know if you'd call them that, but some cool stuff. But yeah, I can, I just remember looking around while there, while some dipshits up there talking about your life preserver or whatever. And just. They are. Everyone on the cruise can fit in one room on the boat. Was that your sense?

maybe they had to do it in sessions. I think there's two of them, yeah. And even then, all the seats were taken up, and then you had people just kind of standing in the aisles and out the door and stuff, and it's a real, it's like the, you know, the plane.

Indie Show Bathroom Adventures

spiel before you take off it's kind of like that words it was funny yeah Brian Cage man I mean as famously been told on here he's the guy that when he walked out of the curtain at like our first PWG show we had no idea and immediately we're like oh who's like this muscle head you know um and then of course he got dropped on his head and it was like one of the scariest things of all time uh but a bigger source memory for me is

when they ran bar wrestling at this bfw out in baldwin park there was one restroom in the middle of the two rooms that was just like a urinal and a fucking uh shitter with no door oh boy ryan cage piles in dude and he's just gonna fucking do what he needs to do in that fucking doorless room and i'm just like horrified you know as a person who like

will put a cork in it and drive two hours to be safe i was like i can't believe this man i can't believe this dude is fucking doing this and he's about to go to the ring you know you're just like oh horrifying to me but Good on him for doing what a human needed to do. He's like, protein powder goes in, protein powder comes out. It's not my fault. It's not my problem. My Chipotle here yet? I got to eat again.

He's going to squeeze back out of the stall and be like, anybody got a problem with what just happened? Bathrooms at independent wrestling shows are often... Pretty fun times. That's the photo book that needs to be done. Yeah. Are you familiar with Schlack? Oh, yeah. Okay. Oh, yeah. Waukesha, which is right outside Milwaukee. They run a dysfunction runs an insane eight death match tournament there every year. Perhaps. I don't know, but he gets some decent names in there. But.

At the end of the day, they just walk right into this Elks Club and clean up after themselves or whatever. you walk in there and adam's got a great story about like schlack just like picking glass out of his face while adam's peeing right next to him i was terrified that's a small bathroom and i walk in and there he is it's just me and him and he's taking 80 of the thing and i'm and he's just

covered in blood and i'm just like i guess i'll just pee right next to shellac and then i wash my i wash my hands and i was just like hey i never saw you before live that was fantastic and he was nice as a gentleman yeah it's like oh thanks man

Schlack's Reputation and Fan Interactions

Appreciate you coming out. That's throws a shard of glass in the sink, you know, like, Oh, he mean, Joe greens it. I know it's, it's, it's not exactly, but.

to me it's like uh the jekyll and hyde is like brian cage like walks behind a sheet that's like backlit so you just see the the shadow and he's like does the fucking whatever mr hyde or whatever and then schlack walks out yeah it's like they're close enough no kidding but slack is just this fucking mutated version you know he's bizarro cage exactly he is he's fp gotten the ooze

uh the big the big mark briscoe win yes which was awesome and we kind of had talked about last week or whatever that i was kind of good with it either way because i felt like if he had to join the don cows family there was plenty of good shit that could have transpired. Yeah, we thought the same. We thought for sure we're getting him join in. It was the first time I was bummed to see Mark Briscoe win a match, if I'm honest. I wanted that. I wanted that storyline.

I cannot get enough of Don Callis. It would have been great. Well, I don't think you're going to be for want of any Don. He's very much involved in everything, and now he's going to be omnipresent in the Continental Classic, it would seem. Yeah. All his guys are getting in there. He's the one guy with the unnatural tan that I'm for. I'm for it. I like that heel orange. It works for him. There's plenty of disturbing.

uh davey boy smith if you catch a you catch a photo of him uh and he's just like what is going on dude like it it doesn't even look like a tan it looks like he puts on like a makeup you know like he looks insane to me but i haven't seen him in a minute yeah well he's he's in japan but like i for some reason i don't know if it's i had a couple buddies over there so i don't know where i just saw a picture of him

Full Gear Match Analysis Part 1

kicking it with somebody and i was like good fucking lord dude i hadn't seen him in a while either still rocking like the kimonos or whatever uh he definitely has a weird fucking uh outfit choice and the like some kind of crazy chain yes some fucking uh but he just looks insane and and like he you know fucking uh has been kicking it at a fucking airbnb in chernobyl or something but um uh yes what else happened on that fucking full gear show um i thought the tag match ftr versus brodito very good

was really, really good. And I don't really usually get up for an FTR match, but that got me so many times with false finishes. I can't even picture FTR without Stokely anymore. I love that. yeah they are good together you wouldn't think it would work but man it sure does yeah what and so what um when you say you don't get up for an FTR match is it just it just because you just don't like them

Their wrestling is always okay. They just bug me. I don't know. Especially Dax. Maybe it's just because he seems to be the more vocal one. I don't know. Their wrestling matches are always good.

yeah the other all about action yeah even in track i feel like the matches like i'm always you know i've i've i've been blown away by some of their matches uh but i also was like i was kind of and and you know i'm i'm the easiest one to get but uh i was also like kind of those guys and then i met them oh and and it was obviously just a brief like photo op

but we had an interaction and i was like oh these guys are all right like these guys are these guys are working that was my sense i mean obviously one one dude allegedly pulled a gun on someone for cutting him off but but like i was like oh i think these guys are actually good dudes and they're just super they're also not only are their matches good but they're good at at making people fucking think they suck

That was my takeaway, but maybe I got worked. Maybe I worked. I'm happy to hear that, actually. That always... That's always a nice surprise. Yeah. It was like Schlack for me. I thought he was terror. Well, the thing about Schlack that we thought for a long time was for some reason we thought that he was like a neo-Nazi or there was some white supremacist element to him.

And then because our dear friend Carlos loves Slack so much, he did the research. He went to the fucking mountaintop and found out that that was not true. Slack's record is clean. Alright, I'd love to hear that. I can see how you would think that just by... looking at them there was some other thing we had heard i can't remember what it was there was something that was like had been floated out that was like oh shit and that checks out you know you're just going like okay sure you know

Well, it's glad to hear that he's not in the neo-Nazi dossier. Right. I'm not saying he was out in the streets trying to fight for people's snap benefits, but I am saying that we weren't able to dig up any white supremacist things about him. What else happened on full gear? I'm trying to think. I was surprised.

statlander beat monet oh yeah i think they're probably holding that one to like you know my thought was oh yeah i was i was mildly surprised but then i was like oh you know what i mean i bet they're just they may fucking

AEW's Title Strategy and Injuries

just like last year when you thought it whatever was going to happen at all and maybe you know you're always like oh maybe that's where they're going to do it or something but yeah but in the meantime how do you like when you have 15 belts or whatever yeah So then like, will it be like, oh, oh, she, she's 11 now. Or like, you know, it's like, it's just such a weird gimmick. It's like, it's one thing to have like four or something, but now that you're just like.

straight up double digits headed to 20 like now i don't understand how you go back and have it be cool and also the question that a lot of people had was just like so she's gonna go back to fucking exactly poughkeepsie and then she's gonna go to fucking tanzania or whatever and just like give all these belts back or what the fuck you know yeah i think the only way they can work it is with an injury angle oh

She gets hurt. She now can't defend these titles. She goes away for six months. Maybe she comes back as a baby face or something and does win the AEW title. Can you imagine all the tournaments and battle royals that'll spawn at all these other fests? I'm picturing Tony Khan at the post office with a stack of boxes and they're like, any liquid, fragile, perishables? And he's like...

Nope, there's one. Send that one to this company. Send that one to the, you know. Yes. Where does Mox go after another tap out to one Kyle O'Reilly? uh i feel like mox is a guy who uh has positioned himself where it doesn't super matter um as much and i also think like he's a guy who's maybe due for a break so He's broken, though. He's scared to death of Kyle. He's scared to death every time anybody puts him in an ankle lock. There was a promo after the full gear, I guess, that I watched.

on their social media or something like that. And a lot of people are pointing out that the Death Riders are kind of giving shifty eyes when Mox is talking. Yeah. You can only tap out so much and be our fearless leader there, buddy. So we'll see. i don't know maybe he gets eight and up you know he gets he gets lord of the flies and then fucking he and has to become baby face but in the meantime he goes away yeah i think he gets gotta go away yeah um but i do think

Moxley, O'Reilly, and Storytelling

there has to be some maybe it's maybe it involves what we're talking about but there has to be some one more thing with with kyle it can't just be like oh you got he tapped twice to kyle And now, you know, um, but I think it's, it's helping Kyle for sure, because Kyle Riley is what has been goofy. He's, he's been nowhere, you know, so, so now they're like,

And then I just saw Swerve was like a couple of the people he wants to work with in AEW. He's like Kyle O'Reilly is like number one. So maybe I think they're trying to heat him up or at least... getting him in a position to be able to do some of that stuff but because kyle's always been fucking good oh he's one of the best in the ring the character has not always been good to me he's a dork

yeah and so when he tries to do certain things it just it doesn't play right you know it just comes off like he he's a guy like pretend i don't know that's not that's not what i want to say but he it just is like that doesn't work you know he's too goofy or something we said the same thing i was like this is the most i've been invested in him

yeah in a long time you know since like red dragon maybe i don't know that's because you love bobby fish yeah right but you but i just like it's it is um it's so nice to just have these clean finishes yeah you know or at least like semi-clean in most cases but like there just isn't um a dirge of fucked finishes

Even when you're going into a show like that, going like, how are they going to do this? Or who's going to win here? You know? Yeah. I love the whole part. I thought it was really good. I didn't watch any of the pre-show stuff. I don't understand how those Costco guys get on every single pre-show.

I think it's called money. I think they see the Rizzler get his one of these days. Everybody knows I hate him. So after he shows up, you have no idea how many people send me clips or here comes another one.

AEW Pre-Show Personalities

yeah well i mean i think he's just gotta he's just gotta get a little bit older because you know the what's the kid's name that the son Yeah, the other one. He's already been physically assaulted. So I think Rizler, he's just a little too – I mean, for all we know, he may be older than the other kid, but he just appears to be a roly-poly-oly of a child.

You can't, you know, even Tony Khan has, has, has limits. I can't imagine staying relevant long enough for that kid to take a legit. I don't even know that they, are they still, they're not as.

hot i mean i don't i'm not really a tiktok person but i but i get that i don't see them as uh being as fucking like in the conversation as they were when oh right over here so so my thought is like because i'm when when i was like oh they're they're doing that again i was like that's wrestling they're always like a little behind no matter what you know so it's like uh but but also

whenever they whenever they're there then that also means that fucking um what's his dick cody's head trainer is in the mix i'm like oh qt's still around like how did he not get taken over with the how come he wasn't in fucking uh billy the stark's fucking bad or not uh ricky stark's bags when he went over to the fucking e right but uh

You're right. He shows up every... There was something. They're buddies from way back. I think the dad trained with him or something like that. There's some connection before he was the Costco guy, I guess.

Oddities of Stadium Venues

Have you ever had one of those chicken bakes? You know, I have not. I don't think I've had any food from Costco. Well, that's not true. I've eaten something out of that window, but I don't even remember what it was.

we got sam's club around these parts uh so i didn't realize you had you have to have your costco card even to buy food at the window because we were walking back from this is like the last like the lions played the chargers or something at sofi and we were like trying to walk all the way back to wherever the fuck we parked and we went by a costco so my friends get in line and i'm like i gotta take a piss so i i go and take a piss and then i

i came back somehow i was like ass out because i didn't have a card to fucking i was like i didn't know that either you know i think you're in there good enough we'll sell you the dog or whatever well it's not even inside it's like outside right you're just at a concession window it's just like let me have the fucking food and they're like velvet rope they're like not you you not you you know

Try again tomorrow. Adam hangs on to an associated bank credit card that has expired 10 years ago because it gets us into a special side door at Miller Park or whatever it's called now. American family feel. So yeah, they don't actually... Yeah, it sucks. So you just have to show it? You just show it and then instead of waiting in line of like...

200 people you just get in a line of like 15 people yeah keep your thumb out over the expiration as long as they see how many you got i got nine all right good wow American family. Is that a TV network or something? What is that? Insurance company. Fuck, dude. It's a shame. I'm not looking forward to all the emails I'm about to get from the San Diego Padres.

from attending a show there that's not a baseball game but they will immediately begin to fucking barrage me with everything oh yeah i saw some of the they're uh already putting the

On Raw, they showed them putting up the double cage and everything. It's always weird seeing it inside of a baseball stadium. Yeah, that's wild. Dude, you know me? Because there's also a dude for the last week on Instagram whose apartment kind of looks... over and so he's been doing these like time lapses and i'm just like yeah screen grab

Where's my seat at? Am I going to be able to see? Am I behind a pole? What's going on? Like just trying to fucking, I'm like pausing raw. I'm going, all right. So I'm probably sitting there. So, you know, like just anytime it's an outdoor show, I'm like, don't, if I end up behind a fucking stanchion and my ticket doesn't say abstract,

view i'm gonna fucking lose my mind right yeah especially with the amount of money right are we saving up for the elimination chamber like did i buy some more powerball ticket no doubt

Injuries and Booking Decisions

did you see um Brock Lesnar eat shit on last night on his entrance oh dude well Brock man did you see fucking Penta's shoulder come out i didn't see it come out but i saw that they went to break right away and i saw the doc already coming over there and i'm like oh that ain't good and then they come back and it's oh it's over so so they showed it huh

yeah well it's like before they went to break he fucking you know he went into it and and it was like something was up you know and then they were like let's get out of here and uh to me it's like um a bummer because now solo has to lose to gunter right which is obviously not obviously but you would think that wasn't the plan right like baby face and heel would be much better than than two heels and also like

um so hopefully i don't know i say all this shit like it matters but i don't know that it matters solo can probably fucking get squashed by gunter and it won't matter in two weeks but but the initial thought is like oh no so now solo has to like they got to figure out how to beat solo and not have it be and and still have because you know you don't want gunter going into fucking the cena match like

on a shitty like a banana peel win right now or some other like totally bullshit thing but did they say replaces sheamus i don't i did not watch smackdown I don't think so. I thought it was a mystery thing still. I thought because they showed the bracket finally.

because i remember thinking the same thing about solo because solo did not look happy after that thing he's like oh they're gonna be mad about this or something he just didn't when they were walking up the aisle he was kind of like oh yeah yeah it wasn't a full

randy orton meltdown but he certainly was not stoked yeah no he wasn't and uh i i remember seeing kind of the vacant you know the shadow guy on the other side so i don't but i can't remember who his face and rusev maybe i can't i can't remember

So we'll see, I guess. Then they also tried to do the old copyright thing comes up at the end. They already shown Brock Lesnar arrived to the arena earlier and we hadn't seen him on the show. Oh, they did it again with the trademark thing? Yeah, yeah. So early in the show... I don't know, maybe halfway or whatever. Joe Tass is like, oh, Brock Lesnar's arriving at the show. Then the last match goes off the air. They put the thing up and...

You're like, well, we didn't see Brock. He's obviously, and all of a sudden, it's like, okay. He didn't get me because this had to happen. He was quick enough with that slip that he just rolled backwards through it and then took his hat off and put it on Bron Breaker and just did a jump. I mean, it was good. It was as good as you could do. And it was so fast that I looked down at my phone when he came out. And then when I looked up again, he was already running to the ring. So I was like...

So I saw it on the internet. I was like, man, he's quick. And then I saw something where somebody flashed back to Cardona's pod because he just did the guest spot on SmackDown a week or so ago. They were asking him about it. And he goes, well, the first thing I thought of was, man, this stage is fucking slippery. And that was a week and a half ago. Yeah. I'll try doing it with cowboy boots, Matt. You know, I don't.

Uh, I haven't had cowboy boots on since I was a very, very small child. I don't, I don't even like to imagine what it feels like to wear cowboy boots. Cause you'll get these people who are like, oh, most comfortable fucking shoe I own. I'm like, how?

How is that possible? Yeah. I don't understand the boots people that are like- It's the quality things. Because you can go get a pair of cowboy boots for dirt cheap, or you can spend like $600 on a pair of cowboy boots. And if that's the case, I better be walking on clouds.

yeah okay never looks comfortable i'll tell you what i don't think i've ever tried on a pair i threaten to when i go to nashville but i don't maybe if hoka starts making them or something yeah there we go dude did you see the fucking

Collecting Wrestling Figures

um the road warrior figures that fucking um zombie sailor dude those things look incredible yeah yeah there's just so many companies making all these things um and the retro ones are cool but they do hit his are good yeah his are very good but they are kind of hit or miss in quality and they're always like 40 or 50 bucks a pop and you're just like well that's the thing dude i bought the fucking shinzaki

And it was like 50 bucks. Right. So I'm going like, oh, two road warriors. There's 2000 of them. And he knows what he's got. I bet those things are going to be probably over a hundred bucks. I hope not, but I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, I bet you around 100. And he does do some scratch and dent stuff once in a while. I don't know, usually a few months after whatever the release is that comes out. Like, oh, these packages aren't perfect, but you'll...

You can get them for 25 or 30 or something, but yeah. Yeah. Cause the, I bought those, I think it was from the same company. Those demolition, those big rubber. Yes. Demolition guys. Yep. Dude.

i fucking turned and these weren't even the chase ones these were just the normal ones i fucking turned those things around on ebay like a couple months later for like 800 bucks 600 800 bucks or something oh shit yeah now it was it was it was fee bay so i got about three but yeah in fact remain someone was like ready to pay that you know which is like one of the only i was like i hadn't even they were sitting in my closet and i'm like

let's make this deal right now like i was looking at what they were going for and i was like i don't need these that bad you know yep yeah there's a lot of that i I used to do a lot of the buying and flipping of the figures. Sometimes I would spend days off just driving around to various Walmarts and stuff. And I can remember buying, you'd buy a Pete Dunn action figure off the rack.

for twenty dollars and you'd sell it that night for 175 on ebay wow dude it's time consuming and i got other shit going on now yeah the one that i wish i had gotten was that um the all all out was that the one in dallas that i went to uh all in all in um they they released that okada that like super limited okada with with all the fucking shit

i didn't i didn't i mean i don't have that many figures so it has to be kind of like it's pretty significant if i do buy one but i was like that thing was fucking so cool and then now it's like i mean it's actually not that bad but i'm not spending 100 bucks or whatever they want on ebay you know I think they made 3,000 of those. Those flew out. AEW tends to do that with a lot of their pay-per-views. I've got a Tony Storm one from when they did the England show. Oh, yeah.

Women's Wrestling and Man Caves

and um or maybe it was jamie hater remember she was hot for a minute yeah then she got hurt she came back doing the um 70s gal gimmick and it just hasn't hit but she's never got gotten back to where she was like she's you know I think she's still doing good and, and is, you know, but, but she was never been as hot as when she got hurt. Well, that revolution show that I flew out there, we went to together.

That was like peak. She probably got the pop of the night. The height of the haters? Yeah. The height of the haters. Are you guys in the same room? yeah yeah okay because i'm just like i'm just you know getting a little deeper into the background and i'm like if this fool's got two rooms like this then ah damn for those on the patreon look at that whoa and a video game we got some dogs over there that is bowling that is a fucking palatial estate my friend beautiful that's outstanding

You know, it's my little man cave. I'm divorced now, so I can do whatever the fuck I want. Actually, this was like this before that. It's classic West Basement, you know. It is. that's great that's more than a cave dude that's uh i don't know what i don't know what a step up maybe it's a fucking what what would be a next step up from a cave i almost said tomb it's not a tomb

Funny thing is I will be buried. Please donate funds for Matt's funeral. Bullshit. Sell some of that shit. I'm not chipping in. Fuck him.

WWE vs. AEW Fandom and Content

we can go to chamber just sell some of this stuff yeah yeah oh that was drive to a couple walmarts if you really want to see elimination chamber we'll flip some figs there was a girl i was seeing that she's like well how much you think all this is worth like i'm like get that out of your head right now like you don't understand no single piece is worth that much i mean cumulatively it's it's a lot but

I've been collecting for a long time. Get off my back. How dare she? This isn't going to work. I am... as as limited as my man john cena is which was also why it was i was duly excited that uh when i went to and saw him at manises square garden that it was a six man because you know um You just don't always need 20 minutes at this point. But that being said, I feel like the show, the match in San Diego at Survivor Series, you know.

with with with the heat that dom has i mean i think it's going to be i think it's going to be a good match you know oh i agree it could probably steal the show i bet yeah uh yeah

So that'll be cool. Um, to eliminate or to elimination to, um, war games, especially it's so funny to like, everything is so polarized now where it's like it's you know at a bygone area might have said like wow well blood and guts just like did all this shit like what the fuck's gonna happen in their war games but i feel like everything is not like there aren't there aren't people there who are gonna go like is anybody gonna fucking you know sit on a fucking railroad spike

right you know they're just gonna be like oh this is this is wwe it's better we'll just fucking you know it doesn't matter as much you know yeah the the crossover is really not as big as i think it should be um There's so many people that just watch WWE. It's crazy. Which is great, but as long as you don't got to tell me about it, it's like, okay, I get it.

like if you run into somebody who doesn't have a tv i don't have a tv you know it's like i don't i watched i only watched wwe it's like all right that's fine man but don't act like you're fucking sweet right like yeah that's what you do i don't give a fuck you know I find myself watching JCW Lunacy every week now. You don't need to tell us about that either. I keep waiting for Vince Russo to show up. You don't need to tell us about that either.

Well, you're not wrong. I mean, historically speaking, he will eventually appear, you would think. If it's Vince Russo and he's involved, he's going to insert himself unless he's too busy with the Airbnb.

WWE Vault and Controversial Segments

which is also a possibility yes that and the the wwef or wwe vault i'll throw that on at night oh it's the best just getting into that and it's it's one of the things that got me Because you just never know. I just watch whatever the live stream is that they're doing. Sure. So last night it was trying to think. Oh, it was everybody thinks of WrestleMania 10, Sean Razor first ladder match.

It was the Sean Brett ladder match from like a superstars taping or something in 1992 for the IC title. Oh, yeah. Oh, I have no recognition of that. Nice.

And from there, it goes into some other weird shit or whatever. But I'm always so surprised at how they'll tile out anything that says WWF on it. But they'll just let Jesse Ventura or Bobby Heenan's racism just... yeah that's oh okay hold up this was i don't know how this fucking didn't come up before now in the year 2025 they fucking run out a little person last night on raw

to fucking and then they have a little person cameraman and you're just going like standing on a box either i was like wow when is the last time they've tried this one you know because that used to be a staple oh yeah it's like wild they're going how do we what we got one more raw here before survivor series how are we going to get a little heat on dom you know all right anybody got any ideas it's like what are you talking about that was michael hayes i just feel

unbelievable dude but believable i mean it's like you know they just every once in a while you know you you don't got to put the glasses on to fucking see the lizard people or whatever you know it's like you know you know who these people are And then once in a while, it just comes right out on the fucking main broadcast. They can't help it. The other week, it was a whole bushwhacker tape of their greatest match.

I talked about it last week, but I'm like, you couldn't, I couldn't pull a great Bushwacker match. If I, if you asked me. Right. Highline or Highlanders or whatever they're called. Yeah. The different story, but yeah. well yeah it's it's so great to not half of it is not deciding what to watch because how many times have you sat there and just scrolled and scrolled and scrolled oh you go to that thing whatever's live you just hit it and you leave it this is what it is yeah

There's been a couple of times where I've hit it and I'm like, this is too, this is like way before my time. So then I start to scroll because you can go back on it. I've, I've, I've done some picking. Well, also if you go into their, into the.

you know their account or whatever their videos there's all kinds of cool shit but but the other option you can do is you can then just go over to fucking wcw vault yeah and be like well maybe this one's got something for me yeah that is great yeah good idea super cool uh yeah something i don't know man well enjoy the show on saturday be fun

Appreciate you boys. Appreciate, uh, Marbury trying to shoehorn himself in there. And then he got this as a consolation prize. You know what? You got to take a shot and, uh, put myself out there. So what are you going to do? But I, uh, but I must know.

Favorite Wrestlers and Podcast Outro

Before we go. Well, first of all, let me say this. I asked Maddie, of course, who his favorite wrestler was on the, we watch wrestling podcast. We always finish with our favorite wrestler of the week. And Maddie said, giant Baba. I'm reading the manga one piece because of Jack, his son. And the author mentions at the end of an issue that he wanted to name a character after Baba's fighting style sailor chop, but chickened out.

Wow. I didn't know that. I think they just, that one piece stuff is huge right now. I've never read it. I don't know much about it, but I think they're turning it into a Netflix show if they haven't already. Okay. So yeah, it's probably one of those things that's going to be everywhere soon. is it a card game as well there's definitely a one piece uh like at the card shops now there's a big one piece element that i have no it's it's that makes no sense to me i don't know what it is but um

Interesting that he chickened out. He was afraid that Baba would be like, you can't name that? Why would you chicken out? Anyway, Maddie's favorite wrestler is Giant Baba. Now, Adam, do you have a favorite wrestler? I'm going to go Samoa Joe. Yes, the champion. Looking forward to seeing him as champion. I hope they don't take it off him too soon. But yeah, he, man, he just looked like a killer at the end of that thing. We talked not that long ago. We saw...

Joe versus Mox in a cage in Chicago on a dynamite or something. Yeah. We always talk when he's in a match, him winning the title is never off the table. Like I didn't expect him to win it at full gear, but I was not surprised. yeah he always just has that big fight feel type of thing you know like he just looks like he'll kill you especially at the end of that show yeah no doubt and it's and then you know you're going oh shit now we get him and swerve that's fucking cool yeah super swerve

No less. Super swerve. Matt, who's your favorite wrestler? Well, I might only get one chance to do this, so I got to go with it. Thunder Rosa is my favorite wrestler. She remains my favorite wrestler, even though she's been sidelined since that Dallas show that you saw her at. Free Thunder. Free Thunder. She's hurt. Rest up. No, we just...

She worked a Mondo Lucha show, which is kind of like Lucha Vivoom or what's the one they do at first wrestling? Yeah, the second. Wrestle Palooza or something like that. That's a WWE property. what is the one that they run I don't know I can't remember the name of it but yeah so they you know it's one of these shows that incorporates like wrestling music or ask whatever but years that years ago before she got even on NWA and stuff

She was in this women's three-way and just had a fucking bang-up match. It was the first time I'd ever seen her. And then afterwards, she's just having beers with us in the crowd. And she was just awesome. And I've always followed her career since then. So yeah, Thunder Rosa, my favorite wrestler. What about the Water King? Well, you know what, man? I'm going to have to go with Mark Briscoe, man. I'm just stoked for him to win a big match like that, win a title.

The fact that he's like having a pretty strong singles career is also cool. And I'm just, I'm down with, I'm down with the Briscoes. Those guys are always ruled too. We saw them at the COVID dome was the last time we saw Jay live. Yep. probably six months before he passed or whatever. And yeah, those, those guys were always fun to bullshit with before shows. And just, uh, that's, that's one that hits me still to this day. In fact, we, we close out our show every week with the Brisco's music.

he passed just because the uh give me back my bullets or they're like song the reach of the sky boy okay yeah we don't get we don't we found that we don't get flagged if we use like ring of honor music but if we like we touch wwe stuff and within hours there's some bullshit and we're like because I don't know you fuck we used to use the Owen Hart like the high energy theme yeah

that was our opener for a while then we went to gold dust for a while and yeah eventually they catch up with you and you're clicking all these buttons trying to say it's parody or trying to say that but we never got touched for a ring of honor track all right I don't know if Lynyrd Skynyrd has the same bots as WWE or not. Why risk it? That's right. Where can everybody find you guys?

Well, we drop a show every Wednesday evening. Dorkside of the Ring is the name of the podcast. One word, Dorkside. Sometimes people get tripped up with that. Probably my fault because that was how I set it up and it's caused a little confusion. Otherwise, dorksideotr on Instagram. You can always email us at the show at dorksideotr at gmail.com. We like answering random questions. Doesn't even have to be wrestling related. Uh, we watch wrestling podcast. Uh,

I don't even know what all the socials are, but we're out there. And if you want to watch a video of this show, you can head over to our Patreon where we offer the video of the show and the show early and a bonus. Q and a every week and all that good shit. And, uh, um, our dear friend, Matt McCarthy, who's the co-host will be back next week with me, uh, at Vince April on Twitter, Vince. April on Instagram. And, uh, uh, thank you so much guys.

so cool we'll have to do it again and uh have a good thanksgiving and all that shit and we'll fucking uh see you again you too peace and love peace and love

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