WeWatchWrestling Issue #630

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We watch wrestling. Greetings. Salutations. Well, hello there. Hello there. Welcome friends and foes. Heels and baby faces. To the place. for and by professional wrestling fans. Welcome to the We Watch Wrestling Podcast. I'm your wonderful darling, red-headed, bearded host, Matt Bass Wrestling McCarthy. With me always, the professional wrestling encyclopedia, Mr. Vince Averill. What's up? Nothing. What's up? Go to Patreon for...

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Matty and I will be together for a Q&A and a .5 together on Thursday. Together forever. Me and Vinay watching wrestling. Dude. What is it, dude?

i don't mean to fucking burst your bubble bro but all of the merch is gone it's shipped it all shipped bro very busy right now i saw an opportunity and i said get it out of my house but i still have to mail you a big package of merch from the last drop from this drop from the other drop a lot of stuff coming your way look if The women on the My Favorite Murder podcast ever decide to make a t-shirt that says Matt McCarthy made this happen. Okay.

then what just send me a like a double or a triple x all right you got it dude um see if you're on the patreon yeah You could have seen that massive eye roll that Vince just dropped. No, I did not roll my eyes. I closed my eyes. Man, your eyes rolled in the back of your head. You look like a high stakes slot machine. I got nothing to do with that merch over there, but my other thing was, oh, we still have Halloween hats. Oh, perfect.

wewatchwrestlingpodcast.bigcartel.com that is only if you're wanting to look cool this fall you know it's funny i went back um on my tiktok because i was trying to find when i covered a particular topic and what clips i showed on a tape found a tape excuse me found a video on my tiktok where i'm promoting last year's the Halloween shirt, the Halloween shirts. Yes. And I'm looking at it. I'm like, man, this fucking video had 18,000 views. We should have moved at least.

8,000 shirts. That's at least 8,000 shirts. But it's, again, this year, same thing, always. I'm wearing one of the shirts. Somebody in the comments, hey, that's pretty sweet. We're going to get one of those. I'm like, you got to be joking me.

I'm out here pushing the product. Oh, man. That's what happens. That is what happens in the world of professional wrestling. I... love i don't know when they started this if i missed the the beginning or if this wednesday was the beginning but like making nick jackson into a degenerate gambler is hilarious yeah so what happened was when they got that um was it 250 000 for that match that

whatever was in the gym bag yeah mox mox was like we're gonna let you guys have it if we win you get you guys can have it right right and then they're like we're back we're back baby and from that point he just started buy the itch and matt was like what are can we afford this and then he would be like they went like maybe this was on the being the elite or something but he was like they went to this dinner and he's like you know

yeah but when they were money's got to be pretty close to being gone i think it's gone gone because he he gambled it all the way wherever they were was it was in a because it was also great like i forget what match probably moxley what am i saying it's definitely moxley they they wound up going up into the stands and uh i forget where they were what casino they were in but like the arena floor was all carpeted okay which

you just you gotta love i love that room i should look it up where they were like that it was like it was almost shaped like it reminded me of the pasadena ice house where it's just like that half circle around the ring yeah and i'm like man this is i

so it's it's one of the things man every wwe show it looks the same i'm like i couldn't even tell you where they were it's this is this is a bit of a tangent but it's been on my mind tangent point because on the uh the fifth Unless it's a Sunday like this week. So I found out on Monday on the 6th. Find out how much money you're going to get from TikTok for the specialized rewards program. So I'm in this pool.

Maybe that's not the right word, but I'm in this program with all these other creators who only post about TV and movies, right? And one of the factors, it's this... this hard to grab grasp onto thing, TikTok considers high quality videos, right? And the advice is always the same of just like, you know use you know use this kind of lighting use a microphone do this do this have like they're big on green screen state your thing up top like have a lot of quick cuts blah blah and it's like

Every piece of advice is to make every video look exactly the same. And that is the most boring thing in the world to me. And I realized that is such a factor for me in one of the many, you know, because every match layout is practically the same on WWE. even the matches that are unique, it's like, well, Lesnar does the Lesnar match, and it's always going to be like that, you know? Right. Whereas, fuck, man, Josh Alexander.

being out on that apron i forget who he had like cradled in his arms and then he just hops down to the floor and smashes them on the on the on the bring it i'm just like god damn this is fucking fun i also fucking love the um i love the the promo up top on the on the collision that's like saturday's main event i love when they do that i know thank god they did this week because they yeah they dipped out on doing that for a minute

Oh, also with the early record, I should mention, uh, no, no raw vault homework this week. Yeah. We're recording on Monday, Monday, Monday night. Um, yeah, fucking, what was the other thing I was going to say?

josh alexander smash on the floor oh i mean and that's the that's the the the match kicking off like that big six eight man tag whatever it was right kicking off the show and at one point I'm like god damn WWE made Samoa Joe into an announcer I mean that is that's that is like history repeating itself that's like making macho man an announcer in like 93 or 4 whatever that fucking shit show was it's just like what are you and i'm looking at him going and i'm like i'm amped up that he's like

push it around hangman i'm like yes let's get into this and and like not just a badass and an intimidating physical presence but like samoa joe You want to talk about a cerebral assassin, like him getting under people's skin and like getting in their heads. It's a fucking thing of beauty, dude.

But I also love, it feels like this hangman thing started just as almost as simply as the Takeshita thing in ROH where they kind of bumped into each other was kind of like, and then it was, I was like, all right. I'm alright. This is cool. It's very similar. Well, maybe not, but it's making me think of when they start feuds in New Japan.

actually in new japan it's far less subtle it's always like somebody wins a match and then a random dude just comes down and just like stands in their face and it's like oh this is the new direction

i'm trying to see what uh because the fucking the wrestle dream card oh when i when i saw some mojo and fucking hangman that's dope you got fucking statlander and um tony storm And then, oh, geez. The last man standing. Box and Darby. I quit. Oh, I quit. That's right. I mean, I don't know if afraid is the... correct word but like that match is going to be gross they're going to do something gross you know they're going to do something they're going to do something gross

Everything they've done up to this point. And then here's the kicker. Here's what always winds up happening. Somehow, the stars align. Every time Jon Moxley is in there with goddamn Darby Allen is when my beautiful son, Jack, just wanders into the room and sits down on the couch. He's like, what you doing? It's not real. It's not real. It's not real. Maddie? What? I'm sorry. I think he froze up for a second.

sorry go ahead i think i did um what neither one of them is going to say right i'm trying to think of a scenario like who who is in either of their lives that will oh no freezing up again just say am i am i it's funny i just i don't know because on my end it looks like you froze yeah will we ever know

What's funny is I just, it's so funny. Everything's going fine. And I was like, oh, I should turn off the Wi-Fi on my phone. And then immediately we get this. Things start going hairy. It's insane. You don't want to say I quit. You know that.

So then it has to come down to who is going to throw in the towel for one of them. Right. You know, is it... Maybe this is how we get Wheeler Uta out of the pain makers. Because, you know, if Daniel Garcia is going in that direction, and that promo he cut on Daddy Magic was devastating. Sure. Loved that. Wheeler throws in the towel and then all the other death riders are furious and then they, you know.

kick him out of the group or like because it because Darby what the only person who can't like in in Like AEW canon that is his friend is who? Sting? Does Sting show up to throw the towel in for him? I mean, I don't know. I think Sting's his only homie. Sting's making a lot of con appearances right now. He may have a con this weekend. No. The end of the paint.

It's not doing a paint no more. There is something. Well, good, because there's something bizarre about him doing the crow makeup on top of. facial hair like on the beard but especially when the facial hair is white and the hair on his head is white everything right he looks crazy yeah like he looks like a um it looks like it reminds me of like like an x-men comic where you see one of the x-men in the future and like shit's all fucked up like that's the sting with like the long gray yeah

Totally. Did you happen to see EOSky? No, let me get this right. Was this on Raw? I didn't see any of Raw. Okay. Because there was... Tell me. Are they advancing that story? Has she turned on Rhea yet? Is she back in the fold with that dastardly Atsuka? Kyrie gave EO an Alabama slammer into the apron and her head fucking just, I mean, unless the video, but it like, Oh no.

Yeah. Really? I mean, it doesn't sound like the match ended or anything, but let me see. I know somebody who had put the video up. Here we go. Let me try that. She's got her. Oh, Jesus Christ. It's just like the back of her head just hits the corner of the ring, right? Or the corner of the apron, whatever. I mean, that feels like that's the only... That has to be at work because it's like...

That's the only scenario. That's the only intention of doing that move. I don't see how you think... like what was what what else was supposed to happen right yeah because i feel like even if it's your back like you see guys get you know their their backs put into it even that to me just feels like Yeah. You know, way worse than the average flatback bump, you know, like just catching the edge of something like that. But, uh, and of course, Roman and Bronson.

What else could it be? Street fight. That's a street fight. I mean, look at it this way, Brian.

They announce how many times I couldn't even, could you imagine if we had the stats in front of us? And I don't mean the women's champ of how many times they've announced an I quit match in WWE. Right? It's been a few times. I mean, truly, honestly, truly honestly, could you say off the top of your head when the last time they announced and you...

I don't want to say gave a shit, but like were intrigued by that idea, you know? Well, I think the needle in any direction. I don't, I don't know because I mean, I think that. the hollywood backlot brawl i mean because because the street fight is just it's just nothing like oh maybe they're gonna maybe a couple guys are gonna wear jeans that's what i'm trying to i'm trying to think like you know um

I mean like specifically an I quit match. Oh, I thought you said street fight because the Roman Reigns is a street fight. Yeah, but I'm getting to that. That is my point. Okay. An I quit match? Sure. Off the top of your head. When was the last time?

uh when they fucking pre-recorded poor mcfoley's voice probably i mean it's been a long time 100 that's the that's the one that comes to mind for me but it's probably after that that i was still like oh but but it like you know i'm maybe maybe um and you want to know why because in pro wrestling it it it shouldn't factor into your brain like well maybe they'll shoot him with rubber bullets or set him on fire to get him to say you know it's like

You're going, okay, I quit school, but all that means is like, there's going to be a few more. Right. So like you, you shouldn't be able to go like, yeah, unless they drop him off of a scaffold, you know, like, which is very true. But I think the point I'm trying to illustrate is for me, when you have two strong characters, like a, for instance, a Jon Moxley and a Darby Allen. Okay.

And then you announced something like, we're going to do an I quit match. I'm like that. I mean, I haven't been genuinely scared. before a wrestling match since the days of Mick Foley since the days of mankind and it's like what is he going to do yeah and he's doing right what's it going to take and it like with both of those guys I'm like This is why the booking of AEW is so compelling because it's character-based instead of, you know, brand-based or even...

Or even just this, I don't want to say story-based, because it's all story-based, but it is. Instead of it being something character-driven, instead of just... That's the thing with WWE. They're like, oh, it's all about the moment. People don't go to see who's going to win the match. They go to see moment. You know? The most compelling moment these days with WWE is when you watch your bank account drain out because you bought tickets to the goddamn shit.

i thought it was sort of funny earlier when i when wwe posted a a story and it said who you got maxine dupree or becky lynch like in tonight's match right i'm going like oh wow this is great And then fucking Maxine Dupree won the match. I should have known they were up to something when they even posted that. Oh, you got to take them for a ride. And.

and the way she won is becky like you know fucking threw her around and then was like up on the announce table fucking you know right fucking talking shit or whatever and maxine just got back in the ring and one on a count out strong victory you gotta be joking me dude god help us all but um i quit street fight it was someone just asking this the q a there this past week uh about stiff like stiff matches you know they're like which one would you like to see come back and i was like

I can't think of any, but I can think of a few that I'd like to go away. Oh, sure. Well, you know what I said was, um, and you'll appreciate this. Tony Khan loves setting people on fire. So it only makes sense that they, they, AEW should do an Inferno match. Right? Like that, that's a match that hasn't happened in quite a while. Yeah. I thought, you know, and we maybe even touched on this. I think we did like we may have room once again for a very good quality cinematic match. Absolutely.

you know? Absolutely. Um, but, uh, and it doesn't even need to be like totally goofy. There's a good place for some laughs with those things, but like, that's what was most interesting about them is like some of them were pretty goddamn compelling you know could be I mean when you got to bring back you know fucking

beef stroganoff dr death uh steve williams for the the mania and saudi you're gonna have to come up with some way to get some of these guys on the show is he alive um no he's not uh but dr Dr. Death David Schultz is. They could get him off the bounty hunter. That's true. That's true. If the price is right, Bill Burr and Dave Chappelle will go in there and hit each other over the head.

With steel chairs in Saudi Arabia. But it's not beyond the princes and kings to ask for wrestlers. They're already gone. So. They did. Yeah, yeah. That first time, that first. like show that they did over there yeah he asked for like king kong bundy or andre the giant or something there was definitely a couple 100 yeah uh steve williams passed away in 2009 throat cancer right was it i think so because he i think he had a um like a a trach there with a little thing to talk you know let's see

I got distracted by his NCAA Division I championships. So did Jim Ross. Oh, Vinny, you are the best. Man, I'm just out here trying.

yes all you gotta do throat cancer that is a fucking bummer did he smoke there's no way he smoked i don't think so but i don't know a a collegiate athlete like that oh did you see there's a new uh a new and also the first uh gorilla monsoon book no who wrote that is it is it through the e no it's um it's funny it's this the The publisher that does all of these wrestling-related books, oddly enough, it's called ECW Press, but it has nothing to do with...

uh here's this it's called irresistible force um according to wikipedia and i suppose this source is just slam sports um After the death of Mitsuhara Masawa, Williams made the decision to retire. Oh. But there's no, it doesn't go into any more detail than that if, you know. Yeah. His name is Brian Solomon. He also wrote the original Sheik book. He's written a lot of stuff. He's always in... Looks like he'd be pretty good.

Inside the ropes or whatever that magazine was. Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Oh, sure. Oh, sure. Oh, yeah. Oh, such a great. Yeah. And Rush is going back on tour. Yeah. Casey Corbin. Who's this drummer? Some kid from Germany or something? My brother knew who the fuck it was. Oh, really? My brother was like, yeah, they're using so-and-so and I didn't.

I still don't know who the fuck he's talking about, but I'm happy for them. Maybe when you retire, you can start studying obscure German session musicians. My brother's a bit of a drum guy. He's got his own drum set, you know. I didn't know that. Oh yeah. How's his hearing after all those years being a firefighter? Um, you know, I don't hear him say shit. He's got a lot of other problems, but I, but I don't hear him talk about the hearing.

I don't hear him talk about the hearing. I'm the one that's got the old fucking... Oh, well, sure. He didn't go to those kind of shows. Anyway. Well, he's playing catch-up if he's got a drum set. He'll... yeah because i think he also he you know he just puts the headphones on and plays two stuff so he's probably got to have it on pretty loud kind of the old you know if you're mowing the lawn you put the walkman on you gotta have

Do you remember those early Walkman like came with a little light to let you like it, it went on when it's like, okay, you've been listening long enough. You're starting to damage your hearing. Oh no. I just know the first one I got. i was so excited and then i realized oh this is just a radio like i thought it was a tape i had it i thought it had a tape oh no it was just a like am fm radio bummer dude

Yeah. Well, they stopped putting that light on those Walkman pretty quickly. Oh, I bet. It's the same way you used to go to the gas pump and it'd be like, do not use your cell phone near this gas pump. It will explode. And then all of a sudden, like, nothing. We're good. Well, I haven't seen anybody use one of those. Remember they used to have like the ear condom you could put on your phone when you're about to talk to somebody? Uh...

It's just like an extra piece of rubber. Like a shower cap. Yeah, just a little shower cap on the phone. You're just like, hold on, let me put this on. I don't want to get no bad waves in my brain. It's like...

meanwhile i walk around with my phone in the same pocket and i'm like i gotta start carrying a purse or something because having this thing against my leg it's like like i feel it like i'm like this is burning a hole in me. The thing is when you feel it buzz and then it didn't buzz. Hey man, listen, we are on the fucking highway to hell. Okay. SummerSlam 98. Yes. Yes. Yes. Steve Austin. Steve. Steve, you all right? Where am I? Steve, you're in the garden. You're in the main event.

oh really oh really I gotta find that interview that's on one of those oh definitely VHS so great You don't say. Oh, really? Also one of my favorite parts of fucking Beyond the Mat when like whoever is standing there talking it's like brett and maybe shane whatever and then stunkle walks through oh yeah it's it's rocking and and yeah shane mcmahon's there and rocking foley and and and because he stops because uh

For those kids to say hello to the kids. To say to Colette. Yeah. Say hi to Colette and the kids. And, uh, how are you feeling? Not very good at all. Not very good. I'm not feeling very good at all. because he had turned down they wanted obviously they wanted him to be in the dock and he's like no I don't think I'm gonna yeah what a treat that was was cameo by Steve Austin was just like well we weren't filming him

We were filming Rock and Mick, and he just waltzed in. Sorry, bud. WWE gave us all access pass. You know what I used to have, obviously, and it's gone. I'm sure I could find it. is uh the rolling stone interview with steve austin do you remember that no probably 98 or 99 um and it was uh the the only bit that i really recall is him talking about after he got his neck broken by owen and he said he would just drive around in his truck drinking beers

And just throwing the empty cans into the bed of the truck behind him. Yeah. I'm like, hmm, that's in print forever, isn't it? You know.

uh i don't know that he mentioned the beers although that was obviously such a big element of his road life but i remember him saying that when he retired you know just he just couldn't really fucking get out of his system so he would just hop in the car and drive like you know 300 miles one way and then drive back you know just to like that's incredible um so that's that's a bit weird and i suppose he was definitely having some beer skis there's no way oh forget about it

Well, I mean, even in that one VHS, I think it's called Hell Yeah. It's a much later one. It's like there's no story left to tell. So now it's just a camera following him around over a couple of weeks. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, they're leaving Providence. or going to Providence. There's footage at the Civic Center, but he's on 95 with an open container driving his truck. And there's the bit where he's like, he passes somebody. He's just talking to the camera.

And then he finally passes a car and he just goes, Oh, you dumb motherfucker. And he's just like, man, it ain't a hard concept. Slow drivers stay to the right. Fast drivers go to the left. Uh, and, um, Uh, cause that's the one where he's walking around going, uh, uh, coffee, diet Coke, seven up. Do you remember that? No, he just keeps walking around going.

coffee diet coke seven up what the fuck is that that's what he likes drinking oh uh The last time, of course, we saw drinking and driving on WWTV, it was Dwayne Johnson. Yes, it sure was. The bottle of tequila in his hand, hopping in the truck. Just waiting for his ride to the Intuit Dome. And now it's time to go. hard liquor that they've got that poor bastard fucking uh you know out in front of this poor box office for the smashing machine oh my christ

I hear it's good. Somebody saw it. Who texted me that they saw it? Was it Anise? Probably. And said it was fucking like legit five stars. yeah having trouble getting people out to it unfortunately really is it out oh yeah oh shit i didn't even know it was out yeah see there you go there you go i just assumed i was like i was like oh we must have gone to some screening or something And then this weekend is fucking Crown Jewel in Perth. Right. Jesus Christ.

I'm going to be in Cleveland. Hopefully, hopefully the government opens back up and they pay the TSA folks. What if I, what if I go to Cleveland and everything's fine? And then there's a problem with the TSA. And then it's like, no, you live in Cleveland now. Grab yourself a Whataburger. I ain't got no Whataburger in Cleveland. Oh, I meant Wallaburger. Get yourself a Wallaburger. Shit.

you and pete gonna have to fucking drive back in a rental car bro this is gonna be this is this one's breakneck flying on friday flying back out sunday wow yeah you can't have no you got no room for error dude you gotta if you're flying same day Is he flying same day? That's dangerous, dude. I don't know if he is. Actually, he's going to be coming from Toronto, I think.

hello yeah these days even even regular when the government is shut down man enough flights get around dude you gotta be careful yeah yeah you don't you don't need the uh government shutdown to fuck up your day Let's see Cleveland. Yeah. Pete's flying out the same day. Okay. Oh, God damn. Well, at least that one in theory, if his flight's early enough in the day, he could get in the car and go from.

toronto do you say toronto it does look like he's in toronto toronto to cleveland that's like if need be four or five hours or something is that all yeah because you just go right around the lake there or you could even come across and go down anyway it's it it's drivable you know if you have enough lead time like he could fucking get in the car by noon and be there

Anyway, I was just texting with Casey Corbine. Yeah, do you know this band, the Choir Boys? Choir Boys, I don't believe I do. Nope. No, I didn't know him either. I texted Casey. I was like, you can do these guys. I got a CD DVD sent to me that it's just going to wind up getting donated. And he's like, oh yeah. Give me his address. Head to the post. What is causing the book or whatever that's set up behind you? It almost looks like it's being bathed in a firelight. It's kind of like...

Oh, because I have the ceiling fan on. And so then. Yep. Answered that. Cause the light I have up here, I cut it down with just like a, like I just put a piece of wax paper just around it. Uh-huh. And it's very rudimentary. I'll put a picture in the Discord. Do you think AJ versus Cena is going to tear the house down in Perth, Australia? Um...

I have my doubts, but, you know, AJ, AJ is one of those guys. He can get a fucking match out of somebody, you know? Ah, sure. I'm not even putting down John. I'm just saying, you know. Yeah. I mean, both those guys are... Both those guys is pretty old, you know? AJ's old. AJ's up there, but he's got a beautiful head of hair. Well...

God damn. This is a nice little five match show. They're going to go all the way down to Perth and give them a fucking hour and a half show. Let's hope so. What is the what is the lineup? You got Cody versus Seth. And that's going to be a motherfucking crown jewel championship match. Now, is that no holds barred or street fight or straight up, straight up, no rules. Like every match is no rules.

Yeah. Right. Yeah. This is, it's a regular match. Then you got Stephanie Vakur, Vakur, and Tiffany Stratton. That's a fucking singles match for the crown jewel championship. Okay. All gone. The previously mentioned Cena, AJ Styles. That's straight up. Rhea Ripley, Eosuke, she's out of concussion protocol versus the Kabuki Warriors. So this will be the turn. This is when the three of them put the boots to Rhea.

There you go. I mean, especially if you're in our hometown, home country, home hemisphere. Yeah. Oh, think about the heat. Yeah. Well, and also, yeah. Triple H is going, if I learn one thing from Vince McMahon, it's that Asian people are evil and we want to keep them all together so we can watch them. Roman Reigns versus Bronson Reed, Australian street fight, you know?

All those streets. I mean, if there's one thing that Australia is known for, it's their streets. There should be boomerangs. What else should there be in Australia? Kangaroos. They should definitely have a kangaroo who if you get too close, he fucking punches you in the face. Somebody pulls out a knife and somebody else says that's not a knife. There you go. Let me tell you something, dude. I'm going to address this tomorrow on my TikTok.

I found a videotape where it's got a couple movies on it. Ferris Bueller, Project X, Crocodile Dundee. And I just happened to mention, I'm like, Crocodile Dundee sucks. Oh, not a fan. When's the last time, if ever, you watched that piece of shit? Oh, I don't. I'm not sticking up for it. No, no, no. And I didn't assume that you were.

I was genuinely asking. I fucking have no idea. I must have seen it all once in the theater or something. And then pieces of it, you know, I think my dad might've watched it or something. I don't know. I watched it fairly recently. It was after I was either, I was laid up for some reason. I was under the weather or I had just gotten maybe like a COVID vaccine. I don't even know what it was. But I remember being in the bedroom during the day.

And thinking to myself, you know what? I've never watched Crocodile Dundee. And if I did watch it when I was a kid, I don't remember shit about it. Like, you know what? This sounds like a great time. It's by all metrics, a classic, right? And it made you feel worse. Dude, I'm watching it. I'm like, when the fuck is this movie ever going to start? I'm not even exaggerating. It takes like 90 minutes.

before he even winds up in New York. Bummer, dude. He's in New York for like 10 minutes. I thought that was the whole movie. Most of the movie is her in Australia being a dipshit. Yeah. You don't remember these things. They don't always come right to your mind when you're trying to remember. It's terrible. There's a really ugly transphobic scene too. The whole movie sucks. Now what about part two? I don't think I've seen that and I don't think I will be seeing it.

Not looking good for that one now, huh? Now, fuck that movie. Man, fuck all that movie. Man, find me a Hogan that's a decent dude already. Call that a movie.

This is a movie. Hey, that's right. That's not a movie. This is a movie. Then I hold up Chopper. Ever see that? Chopper. There's an Australian movie worth your time. Romper Stomper? chomper with uh eric um banna yes thank you yeah true story based on the real incredible hulk right absolutely right yes after bill bixby of course

A stand-up comedian, of all things. Really? Yeah. Jesus. I suppose he's just back in Australia doing stand-up again. When's the last time you saw him in a movie, right? He was a big movie star for a minute. He was. Now... Yes. I'm sure you saw not only is Andrade back in AEW. Isn't he back, baby? That he also went on fucking Twitter and told Dave Meltzer to shut the fuck up. Oh my God. Why is he upset with Dave?

uh i think because dave was talking about um well i know initially dave was talking about that he had had a couple of fucking wellness policy things and then but he was also saying that you know i think something to the effect of if he were Tony, he wouldn't take him back that Andrade, uh, like that AW was under the impression Andrade was resigning. Cause if you look, he was kind of being pushed.

all the way to the end he wasn't the the things weren't happening usually they get taken off tv whatever yeah so that andrade kind of like you know tricked him or whatever yeah and so Andrade said, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You never do. You're killing the business. Shut the fuck up. Whatever. It's Twitter. It's like Dave's like next. It's like, well, is that all you got?

it is i mean it is interesting to me because i don't remember about him being whatever other than it seemed like he was unhappy there he was one of the guys who was unhappy and and then that was as soon as he could right right he was always in that camp of like the marrows the the the uh so it's just interesting the tommy ends in the sea of

in the sea of people that one he he got brought back um you know after after all that and also just going like does anybody give a fuck about andrade anymore uh i don't i haven't for a while you know and he's in there he got it's him and him you got put him with kenny right away right seem like it he's now a uh i suppose he's a member of the don callis family he's even in the

fucking top group he's in the top heel group albeit with you know a dozen other guys what's up with this evil hologram he's like the the the the bad hologram or something yeah there had been like a few little fucking glitches and it it seemed like he was coming and then i didn't understand because he was dressed up as hologram right and so i'm like is there still a hologram or is this supposed to be right

I was like, is it a different dude? I thought I saw that it's two different people. Oh, okay. Well, that's pretty cool. That's the part that threw me. Where's the other hologram? Right. Where's a good hologram? Yeah. This is a bad hologram. I mean, I'm fine with it because there is, I suppose there's precedent for it because there is like, like Pentagon is the evil version of Octagon. Right?

Okay. I mean, I suppose they're two different shapes, but like, if you look at, don't get into fucking geometry on me, dog. This ain't a morning program. Oh, man, you majored in geography. You have a degree in geometry. No, no, no, no, no. Sure. No math. I swear to God, you have a master's in geometry. They won't let me in the math building, dude. I'm fucking remedial. Oh, man. Who am I thinking of? Finish your thought about octagon and pentagon and fucking trapezoid.

They wear the same outfit. Like if you look at, if you look at Octagon's outfit. Sure. You can picture without me pulling it up. I look at it all the time. Well, now it just feels like you're, you're, you're lying. No. Well, no, no. Well here. Yeah. Like who does this remind you of? Boom. Okay. I can see it. Right. So you got. you got octagon and now it's like okay well pentagon's the evil version of that dude definitely dude let me tell you something

I don't know how many people heard this because of my audio problems on the Patreon. But I decided, you know what? Had a good summer. And one of the things I was like, you know what, when there is just a couple extra, because nothing I'm into is all that like, you know, expensive, right? My hobbies. modest yeah i mean it's it's it's it's it's a manageable uh pursuit but i was like you know the next time there's like a couple of extra bucks at the end of the month

I want to buy, just fill in all the gaps in my El Santo movie collection, right? You know, so we're talking like 11 or 13 movies, you know. I just want to grab them on DVD. If I can grab something with a... If it could be an official release, great. English subtitles, fucking beautiful. If it's only in Spanish, I can manage.

you know these are not complicated films i can watch one and pretty well understand where what is happening where it's going you know and then there are some of those movies that are just you know if they were released on home video It wasn't in the DVD era and, you know, certainly not a demand for these things to be imported. So, bootlegs.

a plenty you know ebay poshmark and then other randoms huh midtown comics midtown comics other random you know dealers and wheelers oh let me say this um i told you how i went to fan x or whatever in salt lake city what was that so when we were in salt lake there was this fucking massive convention going on that was like you know

basically i found out later it was their comic-con then they got sued by comic-con so they call it fan x but it was like fucking huge and people were just dressed incredibly and But there were a number of places that had that mostly bootleg DVDs of cartoons and TV shows and all that shit. I got overwhelmed. It was so big. There was so much shit.

and so many people that i only was in there for a little while but it was pretty insane yeah it was pretty cool man because we went to la comic-con and there was there was nothing like that i mean there was one booth you know my buddy runs a store called uh vhs hero uh in it's it's a separate room in a comic book store in like uh not not calabasas what's the one north of that with the sea yes um it is called i keep wanting to say cartwright that's that's from seinfeld no it's um

I just had it again. It's called... I'm so sorry I did this. Calib... No. That wasn't even a joke. It's Chatsworth. Chatsworth. Thank you. Where Rikishi has this thing, right? Let the record show. I pulled up Calabasas to try to find it. It just came to me before I even found it. Is that where Rikishi's thing is? It's up there somewhere or it's in Northridge or something or North Hills. I don't know. Okay.

But that's always because we're going to Monsterpalooza this Sunday, as a matter of fact, because the Cleveland trip got shortened. And now, again, we're back to the TSA. Put it up. Fuck me. Because they do the son of Monsterpalooza in Burbank at the Marriott, right? And they're always good for some... DVDs, some bootlegs here and there. What I really need to get to is there was that the Japanese Heroes convention.

We went to one time, I think in Pasadena. This is when Jack was a lot smaller, but it was all, you know, Japanese, you know, heroes and, and, you know, Godzilla and Power Rangers and all that shit. But the DVDs were out of this world. That's where I found the Japanese version of Spider-Man and stuff like that. But at any rate...

If I can get my hands on some of those Santo DVDs. But I realized the one movie I was really having a hard time finding was his second to last movie called Fist of Death. I find a website guy is selling it. I order it. I, you know, send my $20, get an email from the dude. He's like, Hey, just so you know, um, I don't have that one in stock right now. It'll take me.

a minute to get it but if you don't want to wait i can send you the fury of the fighting goddess which is santo's final movie and i'm like no that's all right how long will it take to get fists of death he's like ah two weeks maybe three i'm like it's fine i'm in no hurry i've got 50 other movies to watch but a week goes by dvd shows up from this dude and i'm like oh i guess he found a copy i open it up

I wanted Fist of Death. He offered me the Fury of the Fighting Goddess, and he sent me the Fury of the Fighting Goddess. So I sent him an email. I even check. I check the DVD. I take pictures of the screen. I'm like, hey. He says, in the movie I ordered, I ordered Fist of Death. He sent me the fury of the fighting goddess. He replies, hey, I did some research. I did some digging. Turns out those are just two different names for the same movie.

and i'm like motherfucker so i reply i'm like because i got a book i got a book a dude wrote right breaking down every santo movie yeah and While I don't necessarily feel like the guy was, you know, had bad intentions. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. But I've never uncovered any research to say that they're the same movie.

They were shot at the exact same time with the exact same cast. And the fighting goddess is the sequel to fist of death. But regardless, two different movies. I even send him a YouTube link. to fist of death to be like this is the movie i'm trying to get so he replies well we can do one of two things now vince you might be wondering is one of those things he apologizes for the mistake he made

Well, he doesn't think he's wrong though. He thinks he's right. He thinks he's right. So he's like, either you can send me the movie back and I'll refund your money or you keep that movie and I'll just make you a DVD of this YouTube video. And I'm like, sounds good, dude. Oh my God. This is, this reminds me, there's, I don't know if it's more than one, but there are like these websites where they will advertise.

like a record that's like definitely out of print like like rhino does these box sets and they'll be like to a thousand or whatever and they're always sold out and then there'll be a website and be like oh they have one And so you order it and they don't have it. They are working off the idea that you will forget that you bought it. If you call them on it, they give you your money back. Right. But they're working off the idea that people.

which a lot of people do you're like oh i don't even remember buying this you know they're working off of that as a thing and it's pretty crazy but that's just the tip of the iceberg dude of bullshit hey man we got a bullshit iceberg here and it's about to get real deep uh yes and where's

Where's Shooter? Where's Randy? Where's Randy? Where's Randy in this whole thing? Is Randy on this card? Is Randy making the trip to Australia? Randy and Bron going at it the other night. I wonder how much longer Randy has because he's older. I mean, he's my age. He's 45. Yeah. he's been fucking injured since he was like 20, you know, like when did, when did he fuck up his neck and shoulders like a long time ago? Definitely.

um but here's the thing know-how shows well doesn't have to work every week like he can he could fucking ice out and just fucking come in once in a while but that's the thing is by all accounts working less is is like because then it those those fewer dates your body hurts more they say yeah you know because it's that repetition of every single night it's like you don't feel anything

Right. Well, no one's getting that. That's for sure. But also, for better and worse, obviously. Obviously. Probably for better. Yeah. Right. I mean, let's face it. I don't think anybody has 50 somas in their fucking fanny pack. There you go. We hope. And by all accounts, it doesn't really seem like Randy likes being a wrestler all that much. You know?

Randy's waiting to find out. Did, did the Sheik ask about me? Did anyone on, on the Riyadh team ask about me? Did they say anything about me? Were they, were they inquiring about my availability? Do you think he's going to get his brother booked on the comedy festival next year? Randy? Yeah. Oh, that's right. His little brother does stand-up. I forgot. Maybe.

Maybe he's going to try to get the word in now that he knows that it exists. Or maybe his brother even asked him. Oh, so you can do a comedy festival in Rihanna, but I can't use my pun kick. It's not fair, man. It's just not fair. So I can murder Paul Bearer. But I can't use my podcast. But here's the flip side. I feel like Randy is another dude that it's like, it's Stone Cold getting in the truck and driving around.

for two hours, you know, it's, it's Bret Hart being like, you know, I'm the guy in Shawshank, but I, I can't wait to get out. But then once I'm out, I don't know what to do with myself. You know, Randy is. I married a woman who already had four. Kids. Right. I mean, he's got to enjoy being at home. He fucking, you know, RKO's the kids into the pool. Half the time he...

They land in the water. He's like, all right, guys, go, go buy the headbangers. I'm going to play Xbox for four hours. You know? Yeah. He's like, I mean, once GTA six hits the streets, I'm out of here. I told Paul.

Like, I'm done. Like, ooh, my neck. Oh, shit. I'm on my bus. I wonder what Big Show's getting after now. Yeah. And talk about a guy who would rather be sitting on his bus playing Xbox. Well, he must be because I don't know where else he is. He's not shooting a sitcom for Netflix anymore and he's not on TV. Is he still employed with AEW?

I get the feeling he he's on some deal over there, but I don't know what, if anything he's doing, what about the, the reuniting of the acclaimed? How do you feel about this story?

oh man it's shaping up dude talk about like like those guys are dead in the water it feels like you know it's like we did billy gun just go home why did he why did billy gun disappear did he disappear yeah i guess where the fuck is billy i feel like he said as much like he was i'm out for a while or he left or something oh really i mean not like in a bad way i thought he was just like

Maybe even like when they were fighting or something, he's like, that's it. I can't deal with this shit. Whatever. You know, like that kind of thing. Oh, I wonder. I don't know. I mean, with the acclaimed, it does. It feels like. Oh, I missed, I missed the, uh, wait a minute. Hold on. Uh-oh. Okay. So I think when they disbanded, he peaced.

but it says i i don't remember this the dynasty which was in april he returned briefly but i don't yeah i just don't know why he went home other than i guess he was maybe like my team my the acclaims not happening so i'm not happening or something well i don't know it does feel like the acclaimed they were getting a little hot as a tag team i mean certainly with the the rap you know diss track promos then once they hooked up with billy gunn and the the scissor me daddy ass was

the height of it was it peaked with that yeah and then it was like okay when are we what's okay what do we do now what are we doing what are we doing what are we doing Then when they finally and it felt like it was taking them forever to split up. Then when they finally split up, it was kind of like, I don't know if I give a shit, but we'll see what happens. And nothing happened with either of them.

well more i think more than that the fucking um max caster was just terrible yeah just the like the i'm the best rest like based on nothing and also wasn't like getting heat really i didn't feel like and and then he had like his open challenge and all this shit it wasn't good it just wasn't good

No. So then the quietly putting them back together, it just feels like, I mean, it feels like the street profits all over again, where you're just like, this is a hot, interesting act. Okay. Are we going to split them up? I mean, the street province, they never split up, but like that whole, like they're heel, they're not, they're this, they're that like fucking, it's just dumping cold water on a perfectly good act. Yeah.

uh oh sorry no please no yeah i mean they did that like for a hot minute there um montez got you know a little bit of a singles push but but for not According to Wikipedia, after a long absence, White returned. This is Paul White, the big show. On November 23rd, 2024 at Full Gear. where he joined the commentary team for the match between QT Marshall and Big Boom AJ. Yeah. Who was choking the shit out of that kid the other day? Oh, yeah. One of the heels. It was a fucking riot. I was like, damn.

I think they were actually choking this kid out. Yes, that was on the pay-per-view. Right, yeah. Now you gotta see who's choking him out. I can't even picture it in my head. Oh, was it just Don Callis choking him out? No. Oh, maybe. Right? Oh yeah, it was. Yeah. These screenshots are unbelievable. The look of the kid's face. Choked out. That's good stuff. Oh, that is such heat. Oh, it's such heat. That's good stuff. I can't believe how much I enjoy

FTR and Stokely. It's like peanut butter and jelly, those three. It's like, he is such a fucking... perfect ingredient for those two it's it's it's wonderful yeah it has worked out and remember when we were when we first when they first did it and we were talking about it and it was like you know one how's this going to work but also how are you going to like pitch it to FTR you know right yeah and now here we are and it's just fucking everything is has been improved by it

Who knew? I mean, because I felt like, honestly, I felt like, oh, this brings them down. Because he was like a prelim manager. He was like a joke manager, you know? Yeah. I mean, he had been in that middle, like with, with Statlander and them and Willow Nightingale, um, not too long before that. Right. Right. But. I think what it shows is when you get behind it, like FTR was like, okay, this is what we're doing. We're going to fucking, you know what I mean? If FTR had been like, eh, you know?

right okay we'll do it but not really you know but instead like it's been fucking full speed you know not jet speed that was their opponent on collision full say it's been full sail yes uh they because those promos have just been fucking gold like it whether even if it's in the ring or if it's pre-tape in the backstage yeah especially like with stokely's in the middle

running his mouth and those two back behind him are just like stoke making faces and hand gestures and shit i'm just like you know um uh cash on collision You know, it's like, it's one thing to have the t-shirt and the trunks and how that, but, but he had his like super yoked. It just made it an extra level of weird, you know? I feel like that should be his t-shirt. Cash Wheeler should have a t-shirt that says extra level of weird. Damn. He's the road rage in this dog. Oh my God.

they should at least they won't and they shouldn't but it would be funny if they made a subtle like all right we're gonna get to this next town all right i'm driving no you ain't something like that you know Why don't you just take it easy in the back? Why don't you just sit in the back and relax? Give me the keys. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's all right, player. I already got it. Car's running. We'll go.

I think Stokely is like, the seat's already adjusted to me. Why don't you take a nap? I don't know. You've been working hard. You just crash out. Crash out in the back. In fact, don't even look at the road.

The accident crash? It'd be better if you don't see what anybody's doing. Did I send you that video of Kali? with this new this new food item let me pull this up i am not even going to the hall of fame dude Can we get Dave Kapoor a payday to induct his brother-in-law? Thank you. I believe the product is called Wow China. Let me see if I can translate this. Is that like the old wow chips they used to have? With Olestra? Yeah. Visit your nearest wow China outlet or order now via the wow eats app.

This is an unbeatable value, unbeatable taste. It is the Great Kali Tali. It's 10 items. It's like a whole... First of all, the... You'd like this ad is, um, it's on Collie's Instagram picture of him on the box, dude. Why is he? Look at the picture. Wait, wait. Oh no. Play the picture of Kali. That's the worst use of AI I've ever seen in my life.

Hey, great Kali. Is he trying to do a duck face? I think, yeah. He's like, ooh, look at this food. Or is it hot? He's blowing on it? I think he's just excited. I don't know. So it's Kali. doing all of his workouts, which you can imagine involves pulling ropes and doing sit-ups and doing the chops. And he's so hungry. He's so hungry from working so hard.

So then he's in the ring and a dude, I guess, from Wow China shows up with what looks like a fucking giant, like an extra large pizza in a giant pizza box. but what's inside of it is this uh 10 item like full meal where it's just like like rice and noodles and you know, buns and everything, you know, and he's showing down, I don't know where they got chopsticks big enough for the great Kali. I guess they just grabbed oars from a dinghy out in the harbor.

for him to use. But it's just this fast food Chinese buffet that you get delivered in a giant pizza box to tame a giant hunger. Like that of the great Kali. I mean, this thing is, is tremendous looking. What's his caloric intake on a given day? You think? Well, I mean, God damn a guy.

guy that size i mean it's got to be like uh the flash where he's just like it's got to be all all carves no brakes what do you think booker t was saying in that video i sent you i watched that so many times i have no idea let's see if i can get it to play or not because tiffy comes out I gotta pop my dick, man. Now it sounds like he's saying, I gotta pop my dick, man. Well, what else could he be saying? What?

Even remotely sounds like I've got to pop my dick, man. But also, let's suppose he is saying... I've got to pop my dick, man. Like what, what does that mean? Like, what does it mean? Like Tiffy looks so good coming out. He like, I have no choice, but to just take my penis. I got to take my penis out of my pants real quick and give it some air.

I mean, what was the matter with shucky ducky quack quack? I got this. This was, this was, what, what is that? What is he saying? I gotta pop my dick, man. That's what it sounds. Could you hear it or no? Oh, I could. I could make it out. I gotta pop my dick, man. That's the t-shirt. Yeah, there you go. Except it's for fucking Cash Wheeler.

Dax has that one. That's how you get back at them. They haven't trademarked that yet. You throw it on a shirt before they can. I mean, somebody get on the horn to Tony to copyright. I got to pop my dick, man. That's a good question. I think Tony might be crying in his fucking methamphetamine right now because I think the Jags ended up losing Monday Night Football.

no they won they pulled it out wow dude wow that's crazy okay good for tony and tony had a few i saw um i saw fucking uh what's her name um with the puppet that sings uh oh cameron harley cameron she was down there on the field orange cassidy was in the area i saw the hurt syndicate number of people since you know uh dynamite is in jacksonville on wednesday so why not right I mean, I am down. Hold on one second. One in every three Harley Cameron promos is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

yeah but like the other two i'm just like what is she doing like when she was the cat a week or two ago i'm just like this is this is unhinged and i can't get enough but then like on wednesday when she's like bothering mercedes with the fucking puppet i'm just like Maybe it was Mercedes that was making it not work because she's so scripted. She's so that WWE prefabricated style of promo. She wasn't rolling with it.

well it was there was no spontaneity there was no life to any of mercedes promos you know especially a backstage where it's just like you know how many takes that they fucking do you know It's, it's there. There's a lifelessness to it. Well, that's a bummer. Well, Hey man, I still enjoyed myself. Um, what shit dude. What don't get upset. I'm so angry. I must be rubbing off on you.

Oh man, I didn't remember my blood pressure and now my head just popped off my body. What else was I watching? I was watching, um, a clash of champions from. Which one was it? I think a couple other ones from 92. Oh, it's the one where Luger turns on, like where they do the, I think it's the New York Knockout with flair and funk. but then uh luger like turns on fucking sting at the end of it what a fucking bastard not very nice no i i uh it's weird i

I found this Eddie Gilbert shoot interview. That's like from like 93. Um, but I don't think it's RF. Like it, like the hotel room. I mean, I guess. Yeah.

but it's just it's also weird because that has to be around like i don't know that there were many shoot interviews before 1993 i know 93 that feels early yeah but it's all dark on a fucking you know VHS camera but it's not Feinstein so I'm just like who the fuck did this huh I mean somebody in the ECW world right somebody in that philadelphia scene i would guess who else would there have been at that point yeah i don't let's see um at first i thought you were going to say

but the, I don't think it was RF because the hotel room was all wrong. You think Feinstein wants those Epstein files released? Maybe. I'm just looking at the comments to see if anybody says like what someone's like the lighting is sad. They just needed to put the light in front of him.

lighting is sad i mean it's just dark but this is on youtube yeah and i guess someone also corrected it's 94 because he references nancy kerrigan being attacked and that happened in january of 94 so there you go bud Fucking one of the fucking Nancy Drew in there cracking the case wide open.

that's what some people do man i was about to see here's the thing here's the process why i couldn't get that joke out because i was about to say oh nancy drew and i'm like well nancy kerrigan's too many nancies and i was like all right well what the next best would be the hardy boys and i'm like

no you can't make that can't make that joke in regards to wrestling because there's there's a different hardy voice so i'm like oh it could be just a private investigator it could be magnum pi i'm like no because then there's magnum t i'm like oh fuck it just go back to nancy drew

I've been saying, I'm way too long. I saw a clip of a dude walk up on Jeff Hardy at a signing. He's like, oh man, I got to tell you, you're my favorite of all time. Oh, thank you, man. It's like, I'm at your school, man. Some girl was talking shit about wrestling, saying it was fake. And I did a Swan Tom bomb on her. Jeff Hardy's like, she deserved it. And then he's like.

And then she no sold a dude. So I gave her a twist of fate and just like, all right. Oh my God. This is on Instagram. Someone said it to me. Oh God. What a thing of beauty. Dude, me and Chad Damiani, we have gotten on this AI pro wrestling algorithm that is unhinged. I mean, Chad sends me so much more stuff than ever comes up on my feed.

Did I send you the picture of Roddy Piper wrestling Cookie Monster? No. jesus christ no i remember like there was a couple of these things early on that you sent me that's why i'm aware oh well there was there was a whole series of dead wrestlers yeah age to look like they would if they were still alive today

but it was set to tears in heaven, which was like beyond such a strange, but I just found like these still images of like, wrestlers from the 80s wrestling like you know it's Roddy Piper versus Cookie Monster it's Andre the Giant versus Ludo the big monster the the big hairy monster in labyrinth you know oh my god yeah like hulk hogan wrestling robocop which i was like well that's a little too close to what actually happened you know yeah

But Chad found this one series where it's just... It's wrestlers, but if they were super skinny... It's just... it's just one after the next of just like Brock Lesnar, but he's just, he looks like he weighs 50 pounds. So weird. And then there was another bunch of these videos and, and mind you, it's all shitty AI. Yeah.

And it's all just wrestlers. Which means someone's doing it. Someone is making these. So there was wrestlers if they were really skinny. Then there was another series that was wrestlers, but if their girlfriends were really fat. And then it's every single one of them with like a heavyset woman that they're giving like a piggyback ride to. Dude. Buddy. I don't know what's happening on the internet. Okay. Not cool. Not cool.

Bro. Bro. Dude. I'm not the one making them. Okay, dude. All right. Hey, man. I didn't bring it up. I don't know why you're getting hot with me. I'm going to send you this Cookie Monster picture.

Vincent. Yes. Who's your favorite wrestler? I'm going to have to go with Samoa Joe, dude. I'm just happy that he's back in the mix. i love mojo i love the promo i love the work he's getting up there too so uh you know fucking amen fucking a dude matt you have a favorite wrestler My favorite wrestler is Nick Jackson. They've taken up the mantle of the Happy Corbin storyline. Yeah.

And I'm, and I'm here for it. Oh yeah. But specifically Nicholas Jackson, because he's, he's the problem. Love it. Uh, where can kids find you online? Vince Averill on Twitter, Vince.Averill on Instagram. This is your old pal Matt McCarthy saying follow me on all forms of social media at McCarthy Redhead. And if you want to join the Video Movie Club, get yourself on over to the Video Garage Patreon.

Get yourself a membership card and access to full unedited videotapes. Oh, yeah. And Maddie and I will do a Q&A and a .5 on Thursday together. Together. Forever. So have fun until then. Hey, take care. Bye.