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I don't know what people want. I just sit here and talk about wrestling. And I feel good about it. A couple of buddies just talking about wrestling. No one should heed too much. concern about it that's right just a couple of um yahoos i can't remember what the guy said um we have we did go to a show on friday sabu passed away all right sabu the man the uh um a true innovator someone who With their style, completely changed wrestling, no question.
No, no doubt about it. Hey, no doubt about it. And interesting that the Sheik episode of Darkseid is on tonight. I know. Yeah, that's our, that's, I mean, the human highlight reel. How many times do you suppose you saw Sabu wrestle? Oh, I would say... Maybe. I'm going to say maybe 10. so not like a bunch bunch but and i only saw him wrestle i only went to ecw arena once so i saw him there once And then I went to some other ECW shows.
Um, when they started coming to Michigan and I went to one in Ohio, but, um, and then a couple of times in the E as well. So I was trying to think. Obviously, we were at the final match. with Joey Janela. Absolute madness. We talked about it on the Mania Recap show. I mean, just pure madness. Did you read that Yahoo Sports article about that?
um i saw i i saw excerpts of it um but i don't you know because it's it's resurfaced now this was before sabu died the strange thing to me about this whole thing which is just to if people haven't seen it you know there's some discussion that sabu wasn't going to be able to do the match and that this is the part that's weird to me having dealt with sabu personally when he when we interviewed him they said his team gave him kratow k-r-a-t-o-w which is i guess is a legal opiate
That's the part that's weird to me, his team. I'd like a little more information on who his team was. So in order for him to do the match, or once they gave him this, he was apparently able to go and i don't really know that much about i kind of looked into what it was or whatever but because when as discussed on the main show when he when he came out for that match he seemed um
uh you know angry yeah upset in a in a in a strange way in a way that felt like he was maybe on something but um but nevertheless I mean, and he was particularly upset that there was no steps to get into the ring. Right. And then once he got... Once they laid the steps down and he got in the ring, then he was like, yeah, sorts of business about the strange thing to me, I guess, is.
you know the people who and again i i didn't read the whole article i don't know everything obviously ever never do i ever but people who are now like blaming uh you know janela or lauderdale or whatever like and and i also saw some footage of him like on some something else like three weeks after mania sitting there talking hanging out so i don't know if they're intimating that because this is also used
to get people off of other stuff or whatever that it's somehow i don't know the connection people are trying to make that that that it was ultimately involved in his demise but um But the weird thing too was I did see where Joey Janela... initially it was like well it was i had that interview right after the match and i sort of like souped things up a little bit i you know i oh like he said uh when sabu slid out of the ring he was knocked out right
i don't know which you can watch that like i i after that match i sent that gift to it popped up in our discord yeah you want to join our discord join that patreon but like i asked if there was footage of that bump I saw it from the other side. Yeah, you couldn't see it from where we were.
You could see Sabu dive headfirst into the spiderweb of barbed wire, which also was clearly not his intention. Yeah. But yeah, that... but that landing on the fucking concrete I mean it seemed like he was and he didn't it didn't seem like he landed on his head but fucking i don't know what the fuck yeah and i guess you know i just i don't um i don't really and i'm not talking about us having conversation about it but like i i have already sort of like
tried to get my brain away from that whole thing like that whole like i'm glad he had his last match and it was a big show kind of whatever but like i like You know, I have even before this happened was just sort of like. you know, not left with like an incredible feeling about it. And, and so I just, i have sort of been watching a bunch of the the sabu that i do enjoy even though you know throughout his career it was always so crazy the shit he did was so crazy
I dug into a bunch of stuff. What did you want? Oh, so I was trying to figure out. I think. The only other time I would have seen him wrestle would have been at WrestleCon, him and RVD versus the Hardys, I think. I feel like you probably would have ended up catching him on a WWE show. maybe i don't know that i did because when they were doing that ecw because i went because i wasn't attending shows i like really before you and i started hanging out
I wasn't paying as close attention to the weekly product. I was much more... digging in on on like the because that was at the height of them putting out the dvds yeah and so i would watch the dvds i would always buy the dvds and then pick and choose pay-per-views here and there but then especially like mania i feel like um I feel like the Trump mania was the only one That I didn't wind up watching live. Like I remember being in the Best Buy or wherever.
with the dvd in my hand and i was like do i really like having that moment of like do i really need to buy this like i didn't even watch it like am i just buying it just to have it just to have it and then spoiler alert i bought it and then we looked behind you and we'd say yes you did buy it just to have it right uh that wasn't a bad man i was at that one that wasn't that bad so yeah so so by the time like we were like
hanging out uh watching every week it was um i feel like that ecw thing had already ended or it was it was starting to to wind down yeah um But the other funny thing that I saw some rumblings around... is you know because in in 2000 uh sabu was offered a deal with wcw like a like a pretty good money deal okay and for some reason
i can't remember if his mom was sick or if he just wanted to talk consult or something he didn't he didn't sign it on the spot they were like you need to sign this he's like let me just do this thing and then i'll and in the meantime hayman him out of it like as the story goes, like threatened WCW that they were tampering or something like that.
um with the thought being like so if sabu signs that deal and then wcw goes out of business he's just getting paid for like three years he's got money oh yeah he doesn't have to kill himself for three years or whatever like what you know again just playing this like
what if game um but uh you know which again it's like yeah but who knows what sabu does no matter if he gets a deal obviously shitty that he had a deal and then you know however short time later they're like forget it you know um But, uh... You know, I think I've just been watching whatever stuff I can find off my IVPs, like ECW stuff, and I actually have some fan cams of shows that I was at. Because I dug into the...
The DVDs. Because initially I just grabbed the WWF releases. So like the three unreleased ECW sets they put out. Yeah. The... rise and fall of ECW. Doc with matches on it. Yeah. And then the... ECW Most Violent Matches DVD set that they put out, which I've been saving that one for last because that one has the him and Terry Funk and the barbed wire match. Yeah.
i was gonna say i mean i like i've definitely been like um going to a lot of the him versus Van Damme there, like 96, and then the Heat Wave 98 match with him and Van Damme versus Hayabusa. Oh, yeah. fuck anyway yeah um that one's i didn't watch it and even that that first one night stand That actually was a good show that WWE put on at the Hammerstein, him and Rey Mysterio. Mm-hmm.
I think isn't there there's like a him and a him and a Cena match from like a Raw or something where he like Cena takes some can't remember if he fucking like legs drops him off of the apron onto the table or some shit but there's definitely there's like a there's a sabu cena match out there i'm pretty sure that's kind of wild i gotta look um
Because I watched the segment on Sabu on the dock, which then, you know, you can't help but start watching other bits and pieces of it. And, you know, Heyman talking about... you know, Eric Bischoff rated our talent and he was smart to do it. You know, that whole thing. Um,
But then, uh, the stuff, him and Taz, obviously, was so fucking good. And I can't wait for Wednesday. Um... because i feel like raw they did it was i was i was pleased it was nice that they opened with the with the card that they acknowledged him in mid-show. I thought it was odd they didn't show.
highlights, but I thought what they did was very heartfelt and very well done. I mean, I thought all we were going to get was that picture at the top. The fact that they even did a little video. But I'll be interested on Wednesday if Taz has something to say or you know the funny thing is which is just a way of starting to talk uh
I think they're doing a Mongo thing on Wednesday. Right. But then they have a, they're doing, they're starting to do these residencies. So they have a residency at that's right 300 coming up that's right um and then i just saw they're doing one in chicago too um i mean i'm almost because at every turn Everybody who would speak would say, Yeah, Taz and Sabu legitimately didn't like each other. Legitimately.
did not like each other one bit and i also like remember that that very early time of me um like just stumbling upon ecw was i feel like unless my brain is scrambled up either that first time i saw it or or very shortly after was like him getting like wheeled in like hannibal lecter oh right that period of time 9-1-1 would wheel him out and he would have the chain around him and the thing on his face
so good um and also i gotta go my box i gotta go my boxes i have some uh like disposable camera photos from like not the i think it might have been it was probably 98 like maybe the second time ecw came the same the same show when um when sid came out I have a couple pictures of Sabu coming through the curtain. Anyway. That's awesome. Let me think. I watched... Him and RVD win the belts off of...
Off of... Oh, God, I just watched it. It was late at night, though. Who the fuck would have been the... Oh, oh, oh! It was Candido and Storm. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Really cool. And then that goes into... Sabu oh well I watched Sabu vs. Taz at Barely Legal which was great and then with the WWE DVD you're gonna get all that great because it wasn't just the show it was on know a compilation and so it had all of the builds to it and talking about you know sabu like taz got hurt then sabu
got fired actually they they might have been tagging together at that point sabu took a a booking in new japan and then paulie publicly fired him right and then they were never gonna work there again whatever he was back like a month later or something um
Yeah, I mean, it's almost strange to describe it this way because usually when you say a tag team is like strange bedfellows, it's... like a you know they're they're not a team they're kind of put together for a purpose or whatever but like those two uh i mean i used to fucking love those promos you know where rob would like either come up front
or like take a dig and then sabu and then bill alfonso would have to kind of be like hey but it was just this like the dynamic of the group like for uh so good well what was great is when they won the tag belt It ends with, and I was like, this is so perfect. It's so perfect. You can just see Sabu saying to Van Damme, like,
Like, because Van Damme was the TV champ as well. Yeah. And so Sabu's holding the TV championship. He gives it to Van Damme. He goes, we got to play tug of war with this. Like, you grab it from me. I grab it from you. and that's how they celebrate the victory um watch Bam Bam. Actually, no, it started with Taz versus Sabu. And then Bam Bam just inserts himself into the match. And then Sabu and Taz demand that it become a three-way dance. and so then bam bam's in it
I was like, I was like looking at the other, uh, discs. I was like, okay, I'm going to watch this after I'm going to watch this after that match went on for over 30 fucking minutes. And then I'm like, I just got to go to bed now. Holy shit. I couldn't believe. at one point again this should be on botchamania at one point alfonso leans into the ref and just goes you can see him pointing at his wrist and then he just goes they have four minutes
Yeah, man. Oh, and Strange Bedfalls. You want to talk about this? This was classic. ECW unreleased DVD because I when they would do those unreleased DVDs similar to the Bret Hart dungeon matches where it's just Things like house show matches, dark matches, things that he picked. Particularly what comes to mind is the only time Bret Hart and Andre the Giant wrestled is on that DVD set. And the footage is rough, but it's incredible to see it.
On this, I think it's volume two of the unreleased ECW matches. It's from 94. it's sabu his partner beautiful bobby eaton oh yeah versus terry funk And the enforcer, Arn Anderson. That's what's up, dude. Dude, I'm like sitting there watching Arn Anderson and Sabu wrestle going, how the fuck did this happen?
um so yeah great i mean and and it was getting close to bedtime it's funny yesterday jack um discovered morning radio because he was we went to an estate sale and he found this little like it looks like a pager like you clip it on your belt but it's it's a transistor radio And so he's playing with it all week, and he goes, Dad, where's K-Earth 101?
and like we put on care with one-on-one he's just like rocking out and stuff and then yesterday morning he's eating breakfast and he's just like going through and i don't know what i don't know if he wound up on k-rock or i don't know what but it was one of those you know the main dj the sidekick and then the woman who keeps laughing and they were going through all the news stories and um it's incredible watching jack hear things for the first time or they're talking about
yeah you know they got uh step on a crack break your mother's back but my son told me they got uh step on a brick break your father's and it just goes boy oh boy jack was dying dying laughing he couldn't believe what he was hearing but they're running through the news stories and they're like oh and some sad news in the world of professional wrestling he's like dad dad they're talking about pro wrestling
sabu terry bronc sabu uh has passed away jack was like oh my god sabu died dad did you know that i was like yeah i knew so last night as he's getting ready to go to bed he happened to walk in i'm like oh jack watch this watch this and he saw the uh what did he call it the the triple jump the triple acai moonsault oh like chair to the to the rope like rope chair to the rope to the flip onto the and like jack was just like oh my god which was perfect the perfect reaction
to an ecw spot just like fucking uh joey uh styles that's right oh my god uh speaking of rope to rope did you see the ninja max bot from best of super juniors that made it all the way to sports center was that on SportsCenter? yeah That's amazing. That's a spot. I showed that to Glennis. You'd think he would have thrown up at the end of it.
he was just flipping so many times i mean when he did that at the ukraine the other week he moved so fast It's insane to me, but to do it all the way up the aisle. that was hilarious yeah wow that was on sports center huh that's great uh good on him um what's great about showing somebody a clip like that i was like yeah look at this ninja He's actually just a kind of short, pudgy guy from Texas, but... Ninja Mac to you, sir. Ninja Mac to you.
I would love to see him in... just a singlet, just in like the Speedo, like the standard wrestling, like it would be, you'd never be able to get that image out of your head of seeing just his face, his build, just like, this fucking guy's ninja magic. You know what I mean? He has wrestled without the mask, though.
so we have seen his face at some point uh or it's available but i need the whole bod oh yeah no no no put him right next to fucking otis i bet yeah yeah like when like when tommy dreamer used to wrestle in the bike shorts you know you're like this makes no sense Now what about Backlash? Did you do any time over there in the Backlash world? Man, I did time all over. We went to the New Japan show. Backlash was this weekend. Catching up on AEW. Catching up on... I heard you love Backlash.
i thought it was i mean i think the women's match was the best thing about it tell you what i love about backlash yeah It was about just a smooch longer than a raw, for God's sakes. It's a beautiful thing. I don't think it touched three hours, man. I mean, it wasn't even as long as fucking SmackDown is.
uh that's good that's a nice little fucking we're in such a sweet spot raw is like i love that it's just nebulous of just like maybe it'll end now we don't know i mean that's that's great because that way yeah you don't have to go like oh i guess the main event's gonna be like you don't know exactly that's the way it should be it's it's It's almost like the way that they always pretended that the show was. Like when you would watch Raw for 25, 30 years.
It was, they were almost pretending like we don't know what's going to happen. We don't know when it's going to end. Right. Now they really don't. It's like, yeah, it might be 2.30, it might be 2.45. I don't know.
Yeah. I think in general, I've been realizing that more in the past month of... I think the women wrestling in the States right now is... the fucking best i don't know if it's the best it's ever been but it's i think it's the best thing going contemporary wise i mean let me ask you did you saw the main event on raw Yeah, exactly. But hold on. Did you like that? No, no, no. I liked it. I liked all of them. I'm glad it was. But I felt like there were some severe timing issues.
I feel like the whole night there was people standing there like waiting for somebody to jump on them.
uh and so i i went when when it was happening in their match i was like yeah something's something's in the water and uh in st louis or where were they yeah but i'm not talking about like i'm not talking about wandering around the outside waiting to get dove on i'm talking about like like spots that are put together where you you go one to one and then you're like what happened and then it's like
okay you know yeah it was just weird it was weird because they're all they're great i don't i'm not saying the match wasn't good whatever but it was just like noticeable to me it was just noticeable to me in that match especially but um no i think i think you're absolutely right uh i thought that crowd was uh weird I heard they were weird. I never trust the fucking crowd. I just never know what's real and what's Memorex on a show. That's fair.
Because sometimes you hear a loud noise and you start looking in the background and you're like, I don't think these people are making any noise. It's video game. Proud noise. You know, because I thought that the women's tag was great. I feel like the, you know, for lack of a better name the nxt women should have won that match but oh well you know i feel like they're still building that feud or i don't know what they're doing yeah i mean i was I guess you know
first of all nothing matters anymore but uh also i guess you know it's like well at least she got pinned by ria or whatever but yeah i was kind of like oh they're gonna they're beating julia huh but i'm like well you don't want to beat rocks and then i just start going down the list and i'm like i guess you know it's fine i mean it wasn't you know it was a great Everybody looked good. I don't think Julia comes out of it. And I also don't think next week you remember who fucking got beat.
they've they've wwe well you know wrestling in general wrestling that's what i mean nothing matters yeah very little matters unless unless you're you know set about to talk for an hour and a half every week and you gotta Something needs to matter. Something needs to matter. well it's funny it is the um you know not to not to um completely equated to this because i didn't agree with him but melzer was uh he couldn't He was really harping on this point of...
Well, if wins and losses don't matter, and if Joe Hendry is getting such a great rub by being beaten by Randy at Mania so quickly, then why didn't you debut you know have it be alistair black have it be jeff cobb have it be one of these people that because you know henry doesn't even work for your company why don't you have it be you know rusev comes back all that
and he kept making that point i was like on paper like i understand the point he's making but i don't agree at all because it's The thing about that... match that moment wasn't the match and it wasn't who won it was who's the opponent gonna be and so Joe Henry is top of that list because that song is over, that entrance is over, his gimmick where he does the turn is over. That was the fucking... That mattered more than Randy winning.
You know, like you hit some weird music and it's like Jeff Cobb and it's like, oh, I don't know Jeff Cobb's WWE music. And now Jeff Cobb comes out. It's like, well, now I'm expecting a competitive match. joe henry doesn't need that and it's not even that he's you know he's certainly not a joke he's not like a He's not a 24-7.
champ he's not r-truth or santino i feel like if he were on that main roster he would wind up being utilized that way he would be doing backstage with tozawa or something but right in that sense of the booking it's like no this makes more sense than anything
Yeah, because they just want to have, especially on that show, it's a moment that they built to more than a match. And also, it's not as if anybody moving forward... it is gonna be it's gonna be like oh that's the guy who who fought orton at mania not oh that's the guy who got his ass kicked and looked stupid you know it's like no that's the guy like that's the guy that wrestled randy at you know like exactly that's it whereas i do think like a guy like black or cob
or even rusev like i think that that would hurt them you know that that wouldn't be a rub that that would because those are guys that you're looking at the map especially like a rusev you're like or i would assume they're going to book jeff cobb as a monster too right it's like so then you need to get him over as a monster whereas joe hendry
Plus, the Rand man was headed to the world title match at the next show. Let's face it. Keep Randy strong, please. I don't know. I mean, as far as like Julia and Roxy, it's like, I...
This isn't the last time we're going to see them and certainly not the last time we'll see them interact with EO or Rhea. No, not at all. But it's like they do need to get some heat. You know? Well, I mean, I think... that's what led to the match i mean they've been like you know they've they've gotten some heat maybe not uh
you know between the bell but um but i think but they're they're seen they're like there was nothing about going into that match where you're like oh okay these like these girls don't belong in there with them or they're not gonna be like you know what i mean No, I think you're absolutely right. I think, you know, it needs to build to, I don't know, either Saturday Night's Minivan or Money in the Bank.
but we'll see but i i think in general across all the companies the women's stuff has been by far the most entertaining the most interesting even just like on When they ran back Willow Nightingale and Statlander on that Thursday collision, I was like, this is fucking great. Stat. Stat. now orton and cena that was one that was a classic for the agents was it not uh i honestly i'm not and this is not i'm not knocking cena But he hasn't done anything since he's come back to make me think.
That there's going to be... like a great five-star match. So this is to say what him and Randy did at the pay-per-view is exactly what i was expecting and i wasn't disappointed or put out at all yeah and that fucking the energy in that room that crowd was fucking what was wild i also i also kind of
enjoy it because it's just a different pace it's just a different you know it's like a little different flavor um and uh you know they still had some some bullshittery and It'd be like not enjoying... you know i don't know i don't know what to compare it to but it is it's like this is um
don't know there was something on the tip of my tongue but it's it's it's it's this is the the last entry in a 20 plus year feud so what what what You don't have to enjoy it, but I'm like, but you can't do it wrong. Except that, John, he went right back to those fucking walking shoes. He had the Travis Scotts on for a hot second. Yeah. Because he felt like he wasn't going to be all wrestling them.
Right back to his... Well, you know, you got to sell those on eBay right afterwards. His Buster Browns or whatever those things are. You know, it's great. I don't know if it's been trending in your feed, but... the clips of him on Total Bellas has been circulating around. Oh, sure. when nikki tries to make make food in the kitchen what a monster heel and then when when danielson's like living in the back or whatever it was for the show and tremendous like in this in this house we have rules and
It's like explaining the rules of the house. It's like, treat this house if it were your own, but if in your own house you just leave wet towels on the ground, then you need to change that. Who the fuck would do that? After dinner, the men will adjourn to the smoking room for cigars. The women will go to the other room.
That had to be at work. Oh, it's complete work. The best part is every time they would cut to Laurinaitis and he's just sitting there laughing his ass off. Yeah, because he knows he was... No, anyway. What? But, yeah, man. Can you believe we're halfway to Ontario, California, and fucking Jerry announces he hates spaghetti?
We were about to eat legendary spaghetti. Dude, we were about to get the fucking good gravy. I'm playing, Jerry. It's all good. I'll get back out to Vince's spaghetti someday, bud. Now that they announced the big Dynamite 300. This obsession with Ontario. It's so close to Cucamonga, dude. You got to be right next to fucking Rancho Cucamonga, bro. That's where the Bucs were born and raised.
When we saw Papa Buck. Papa Buck was in the house talking about how come you're not using my theme song. What's wrong with my theme song? Let me tell you something, kids. Okay. May 9th. New Japan, resurgence, Ontario. I have never, and I am not exaggerating, been in an arena with less people.
It could have been at the Vermont. Or maybe close. I mean, I know this is not your forte, but how many people do you think were in that room? Oh. E aí um this isn't my forte i bet there were i'm gonna guess less than a thousand no no i was gonna because i mean i think it's probably i mean it probably holds if it if it was full it probably would have been like Six and a half or seven. In that setup maybe. So I'm going to guess it was.
I was going to say maybe 2,000 or 2,500 even maybe. Maybe. Maybe not though. Yeah, I don't even think it was happening. It was dark. I mean, they did a great job of making the room very dark. Yeah. But I mean, it really... Maybe not. This was the closest I've ever... Penny, you've got to get the fuck away from me. Oh, this dog is out of line.
I mean I understand someone tied you up in a yard for a year but you don't need to be this needy i changed chairs i don't have that big blue chair anymore so now she can't sit behind me and she doesn't know what to do while she's in here chair change chair change um
It really is the closest I've ever felt to watching like a... like a world-class outdoor show at texas stadium where you're just like why did you why do you keep booking this stadium it was it was poorly attended and it's funny because the map that came out for dynamite
they they aren't even using as much of the room you know what i mean like they they had a setup new japan had a setup like boom arena show dynamite's like yeah but we're just gonna go a little bit further toward the other end and not you know and hopefully not like yeah it was it was it was very lightly attended uh but uh to the toyota center's uh credit they still had all the shit open it felt like i thought we were gonna get in there there's gonna be like one concession stand
But they still had it popping off in there, even though there wasn't really a great need. Get that dog out of there. We got a major show we're trying to record. She's out. She's out now. She's out there barking at God knows who. Hopefully not someone who's wandered into your home. Lord knows that has happened. I'm just like... I fucking love animals so much, man. But like, there were some filthy animals in Ontario, were there not? Well, here's the thing. so that the the the building is empty
And we go down to our designated chairs that we paid for. That's right. And I don't even think our asses had hit the chairs yet. And me and Vince looked at each other and were like, Yeah, we're gonna have to move.
i mean that was the one uh blessing of it being lightly attended because moving was not a problem we could we just like we could basically kind of sit where we wanted but the chairs we had actually paid for which were much closer than the ones we ended up sitting in we had to vacate because there we were just subject to that some i feel it's a pro wrestling phenomenon to me at least as far as live events are concerned where sometimes there are just people there who
seemingly hate everyone that's on the show they don't they don't like any of the wrestlers and they're very vocal about it so that like the the dark match was in the ring
I believe it was Viva Van and it was Faye Priestley. Yes. And he didn't know who Viva Van was. And we've said it on the show before. I'm like, she's not good you know yeah and and it was so initially it wasn't even uh it hadn't even got to the point where he was like you know oh the young bucks suck and these people suck it was initially the thing that i was like i'm out of here he was just like you know there was a head scissors and so then he made a scissoring jump
And then there was something like he was being... And we're not exaggerating. This person was directly behind. He was sitting right behind. Right behind us. And he's saying this stuff into our ear.
yeah just just really loud you know being trying to get laughs from anybody and then and then just like like so you're just going like what what what has driven you out of your home yeah like why are you here but you don't like anything and then he's like um because if it was be i don't know who it was like i could not pay attention and she uh he goes uh oh she she looks different she looks like she's lost or his body was like she looks like she's lost some weight
which i'm like already i'm just like shut the fuck up shut the fuck up and then this dipshit replies with yeah well she lost all that dead weight when uh when she broke up with will osprey and i'm like Okay. This guy hates Will Ospreay. You don't like wrestling. You don't like any professional wrestling. So thankfully, within a minute or two, we're sitting up in the seats. We will finally sit in a nice quiet area.
enjoying ourselves and it was a beautiful evening uh as always we had a fucking great time but like we're not exaggerating kids there were strangers sitting behind us in our new seat who we like we chatted up for like half a second they also moved Because of this guy. Oh, I must have missed that. You're not Jesse. No, no, no. The people behind them. Oh, I didn't know. The two women behind them. Oh, yeah. And then a couple dudes.
came up in front of us and then they they were like that they were like you guys made the right move you got the fuck out of there before we did but as always sometimes the car doesn't look great but you know what we had a great time great show I like it. your favorite wrestler this week probably in the big uh title match Not the main main. No, no. Goto came out and that was when me and Vince were like, let's just check both those merch stands. Monite.
Fred Ross was out there looking real good. Still not taking any days off. I'm like, Fred. chill not a single one not a single one maybe maybe somewhere in the in the distant future he'll be able to throw his feet up on the coffee table and eat a jar of peanut butter but not not not today West Coast Wrecking Crew. Fucking great. They looked great. Um... GAME KID!
is just phenomenal that that tag was great where you had the war dogs in there against whatever you want to call them bullet club old school yeah the good brothers and the young buck Luke Gallows! Oh my god. That entrance gear was absolutely phenomenal.
yeah that guy i i fucking i get a kick out of gallows too gallows is i get a kick out of that if sabu hadn't passed away gallows would have been my favorite wrestler this week not to tip everything but come on When he went in there at one point, it was his turn to get his shit in. And he was doing these, he was just kicking people in the head.
uh he did this tremendous cross body i mean dallas was a fucking the star of that match yeah uh gabe kid at one point he starts putting the boots to carl anderson And screams at him very loud, I'm the bald white guy in New Japan now. And I got this shirt. If you're watching on the Patreon, you can see this tremendous King of Japan Gabe Kidd shirt. Big time. I'm worried about wearing this out of the house because I think people are going to think it's a picture of me.
uh oh that's all right now that's all right you might be the king of japan you don't turn around with the war dogs now more dogs now uh yeah it's weird that the west coast wrecking crew like did i miss it have they have they done any like have they popped up on aw or anything because i just feel like that team like it's weird to me that they're just they're not even in japan really
they're like they're in advance stuff for fucking prestige or whatever but like yeah it seems like they would have like other people have at least like popped up for a shot or two here I mean, Lord knows they may have been on an episode of Dark or Rampage, but not that I recall. Probably. I mean, NWA, I think, was The most exposure that I recall Royce getting, you know? Right. Yeah, so it was weird. The big ape man took place.
in the middle of the show but you know new japan they like to keep it uh you know they keep the belts on the back end so once that was done it was went to belt town but uh yeah phantasmo and uh takeshita was beautiful yeah that would if they had had more time and maybe even like more crowd energy easily a star match but you know i think they were just they were there just to to get it going and
just to keep the card moving, but two wildly, phenomenally talented guys. My God. Oh, yeah. Phantasmo, dude. I mean, not taking it away from Tekashta, but I feel like Phantasmo is a little underrated. I think even as much hype as he gets, he's still underrated. Yeah.
and i'm not one like i feel like you know companies should have their right like it's it's funny watching ECW doc because it's like yeah they lost you know Benoit they lost Malenko they lost Eddie they lost you know Jericho they lost this and that and it's like there is something to it's nice when a company has a a solid roster in new japan like they need a guy like elp but it's like I wouldn't normally be like, that guy should be in WWE, but like fucking that guy should be in WWE.
Yeah, he's got all the... He's a 5'2 player. He should have Logan Paul's spot, you know? Yeah. totally i mean come on we ain't got that prime energy dog but you know logan he's gonna get his title match logan's gonna get his title match here coming up isn't he well you gotta go buy soda at some point But yeah, the three-way Joshi match that closed it out was phenomenal. And it was our last interaction with the dumb fuck behind us. He got up.
and was leaving, was walking up the aisle, up the steps, and loudly announced to anybody that would listen, I don't watch Mercedes matches. It's like, great, then go. You're going to miss a banger, you fucking dope. azumi took the title home didn't she she really did you know i mean mina i love her
She needs to get her head in the fucking match and stop dancing. She's always thinking about how am I going to gyrate? A lot of extracurricular going on for sure. But she needs to just be concentrating on... Just a hammerlock. You do the hammerlock. And Monet's slow descent into madness has begun as she lost one of the jewels from her crown. Yep, she ain't gonna do well at all that, is she? I really figured they would, you know...
that she's going to win the AEW belt this summer and then have all the belts at one point. I was honestly surprised that she lost that women's strong belt. Yeah, I wonder what the next New Japan show in the US is. I don't think they announced it today. Um, they may have, but you know them, I mean, even if they announce a date, there's no card until like earlier, early in the day. I just mean, I wonder if, you know, where they're going to be, if there's already one on the docket or not, but.
Shit. Yeah, Raw was fine. I liked the AEW shows this week better. i love that what what's that room that they were in in detroit oh yeah the masonic temple so the masonic temple downtown there's there's a couple of different rooms but that's like the big the big theater um but it did look it looked really cool but really cool I'm digging, you know...
I want AEW to be different, you know? It's all I want. And that's what worked for them, you know, those first two or three years. Yeah. And the fact that the weekly shows aren't... necessarily have to be in in arenas that they are like it it makes me feel like these early 90s raws that we've been watching and i'm like it makes it i don't know it it affects the energy in a positive way and the presentation is different it makes it feel
i don't know a little more punk too that that that it it it does come off as just a little bit smaller and it's like yeah but it You know, it's not about how big our dicks are it's about you know well it is it is just a different yeah it's a different look but it looks cool and it doesn't look very i mean it looks better because it's full even if it is a theater instead of a arena um which you know if If you are just dealing with the like.
someone a blank slate or whatever who's just flipping and and it's like oh you know this this is what is this you know and then you're gonna immediately kind of see if you have watched it all or whatever that like the wrestling is a little different whatever and i and yeah i think i think it is cool but it doesn't
it doesn't register to me as like oh that's a bummer they can't you know they like they're in a small room because it doesn't always feel that small either it just feels like it's a little different setup where and this is not at all one versus the other but nxt's show does feel that way because they're just in whatever that room is that they're in where they have like a couple of rows of people that are like weekly tv like that to me does feel like you know, slam ball or something that like.
you know where you're like oh is this like in a is this in a studio what you know um it looks different in a way to me that isn't as at least isn't as interesting to just like happen upon but when it's a smaller like when it's a studio show or like a smaller it's also
the way that i i feel like nxt is is overlit you know which it all of those factors add to a um kind of a plastic feel a very uh prefabricated type of gimmick, whereas The way that the AEW shows have looked and felt, it really feels like much more of a party.
um and and to your point absolutely it doesn't i'm not like oh man they can't fill an arena i'm like it makes me realize how boring um an arena can look because it's just it's just a bunch of people and then especially the way that wwe insists on lighting things that like they have this weird filter on them or like people are you know it's it's just
now it is funny that there's like because because this doing these like theaters in a lot a lot of times like at the masonic or whatever like you get like this also this sort of ornate sort of facing of the balcony or these other things that are it's just like you know it feels like um you know if you're like you turn on uh access and it's uh you know a fucking they're showing like a tom petty show or something it's like oh this is like this weird like
it's not madison square garden it's like in a fucking theater but you're not going like oh poor tom petty you could only you could only fill the fucking orpheum not the fucking no you know so i don't know it's uh I think it is cool. And I think it's smart to go like, all right, we're not filling these arenas. What can we do that, you know, and this, this is the, this, this feels like a smart move to me visually. I absolutely love it.
um yeah like you open up with uh tony storm cutting a promo in that balcony right like that's a that was fucking legendary like that was an iconic fucking moment that i'm like like for for that performer to be in that setting yeah uh i'm like that's you do you have her you have anybody cut a promo from you know like a press box up in some like the fourth tier in an arena i'm gonna forget about it later that fucking like in the middle of the promo i'm gonna forget it's happening
it does feel like i don't know if it's you know the the point that we're at where like like so much there's so much going on and so much has happened and is happening whatever but it does feel like At a different time, that would be a moment that... you know like if they were you know if you're watching ecw it would be on the commercial for yeah like their the tape you could get you know like oh
tony storm's like standing in this balcony of this like old you know like they you're absolutely right they need to use that footage as like that's like and like anytime they do a package of tony storm right like have it be based around that moment you know and cut to footage footage of her wrestling and you know the bloodbath with mariah and like being held by luther and it keeps coming back to her and that like that
she should work in that room every fucking week just to have that fucking moment in the balcony everywhere they go Oh, fucking God. God! What's up, Matty? And so Beach Break is this week? Beach Break. beach bike we'll finally have it on a beach or is it they still bullshitting no no they're taking a break from the beach oh um the big return of Sky Blue. Or they claim it's Sky Blue. I don't know. She's been replaced by a pod person. Sky Blue, you say?
Allegedly. Oh, and they're doing... It's going to be in a cage, right? Samoa Joe and Mox. That's... That's... that's a guy that i'm like oh man sabu just died moxley's gonna do something crazy you know what i mean yeah yeah like that's a guy who's like oh fucking sab what yeah oh fuck He's going to go out there and do something. Can't find the lineup. For the big beach break program? Yeah, I'm just trying to pull that up.
I mean, they're going to have the title eliminator. They're going fucking headlong straight into Double or Nothing here. I know. Which I believe is right up against Saturday's main event. because they're not in competition. No, no, no, no, no. Certainly not. Because I'm loving the... Yeah, because they're doing... They're at Hoffman Estates. They're doing the Now Arena. They're home away from home. And... Okay. Got it.
Adam Page and Will Ospreay versus Takeshita and Josh Alexander. Fucking... Dude. The walking weapon, dude? Is that what you're talking about? Ricochet versus Zach Gowen. Oh my god, I gotta show Jack that clip where Ricochet steals Zach Gowen's leg.
he'll lose his fucking mind he was reading a uh a goosebumps last night uh oh too scary for me and i'm like uh i'm like well tell me about uh well first of all he's been he's been binging simpsons halloween episodes because it's i was the same way when i was a kid like i just wanted to watch horror movies so bad yeah but they were just too fucking scary and so he's been watching the simpsons halloween
And he got to one and he's, you know, he's watching ones I've never, because I really didn't make it past season 12 or 13. Okay. And he's watching Treehouse of Horror 33, right? Okay. And, uh, And it's a goof on the Babadook.
Okay. And it's Marge gets possessed by the Pookadook and is just trying to kill Maggie and he was freaked out about it like that night and you know was just like mom will you just stay in the room till i fall asleep and yeah you know the next night he was still kind of like ah you know i'm just uh and so i watch it i'm like Man, there's not even fucking any jokes. Oh, no. It's just March trying to kill Maggie. Oh, no. I'm like, man, this fucking sucks.
You know? That's wild, dude. Yeah, fucking bummer. Why did I bring that up? Oh, so he was reading Goosebumps. And I was like, so tell me about what you're at. And he's giving me the rundown. And I forgot what it's called. I'm sure plenty of people listening have read those R.L. Steins. But I'll figure out the name. But he's like, well, there's this kid, Matt. And then there's this other kid, Bradley. And he's like, Bradley just makes him crazy.
And I was like, oh man, this is the, like Jack was relating hard to this character. And he's just like, oh man, he's just like, He tries to copy off of him, and then he blames Matt and says, you don't have to give me the answers, and then Matt gets in trouble.
and matt goes home and he went up into his bedroom and bradley's just in his room just going through his stuff and i was like oh my and like jack was like i'm sorry like jack was fucking heated didn't like it so if he sees ricochet pulling off zach owens low yeah i'm gonna go over good oh he's gonna lose his mind be like oh man i need to see him like this is the it's it's wild that this kid doesn't like wrestling
because he's the perfect person to be like oh that son of a bitch don callus he's gonna get his like oh how dare you uh the four-way eliminator we got timeless sky blue azumi and mina and then moxley and samojo in the cage oh and then um The Night 2, Anna Jane, Megan Bane. Have you watched any of this?
with harley cameron oh yeah oh yeah this this the fat ass yeah dude it's so ridiculous it is ridiculous it's a little yeah it's a little uh pg-13 at times it's a little pg-13 at times harley cameron is so preposterously funny um anna jay is who i enjoy but i'm like she's almost like
it's almost like negative charisma like when you have the two of them together i'm just like it's again she's she's another one where i'm like you can see the performing you can see the acting you can see the you can hear the wheels turning of what is it i'm trying to say and convey um It's not as distracting as like a Shotzi or, you know.
and i think becky's becky's a good promo but like on monday again like i said in the discord i was like i was like watch watch how many times she will repeat a word or a sentence while she's just kind of stalling while she just quickly tries to remember what am i supposed to say next um and maybe other people don't notice it maybe it is just from
How's she going to pull that off in some of these acting jobs she's got? She's like on the new Star Trek and shit. Is she going to... Well, you get to have multiple takes. That's cool. It's the pressure. It's the pressure of having to do it in one shot. Are we live, pal? We're live, pal. Alright, let's take a trip over to Raw. Okay.
See, we need Rob to put in a sound effect of like a creaky door opening. Like we're going to go into the raw vault. Like the combination lock, like clicking around and then... Oh yeah. I was hoping I was going to be like, oh man, that'd be wild if the synchronicities lined up. If we somehow, someway got to a Raw episode where ECW invaded. Wasn't to be. Bummer, dude.
from the raw vault on netflix netflix july 3rd 1995 danville pennsylvania back time baby when's the last time you went to danville oh i don't know i don't think i have yeah probably never probably never probably never danville is Population 4,000. Okay. And just curious how close it is to where I'm going. It does make me curious, you see. Ah. I would say the largest town nearby would be Williamsport or Little League World Series. Yeah. Scranton. Sibley.
So yeah, not near where I'm going. Okay. I'm going much more... You're more of a Poconos guy. Much more central. susquehanna valley uh let's see savio vega this is the recap up top bro savio vega versus double j hbk versus and the roadie they both got involved It's going to lead to a big, big match. We got a quick Sid promo on Bam Bam. We got a Bam Bam promo. I forgot when they were really leaning into the fire gimmick where he's like shooting sparklers out of his hands and shit.
We had Vince and Jerry the King Lawler on the ones and twos. Jerry's very upset because he just lost a Kiss My Foot match with Bret Hart. Gross. The whole night. The whole night is just a running joke about how bad King's Breath is now. Vince just wants to talk about the toe jam. between his teeth jerry lawler is chugging scope which is not the recommended no way to use that product no no no
And this is all leading up to Jerry Lawler saying that his dentist is coming to the WWF. What? Isaac Yankum, DDS. Up in the ring, we got the 1-2-3 Kid versus Mike Bell in a nothing match. We got the In Your House report with Todd Pattengale. Jeff Jarrett. Double J. With my baby tonight. The full music video plays. Ain't that great? Was this just purely for heat or like... do you think in the back of vince's mind he was like we might be able to sell a couple of these on
Cassette? Oh, probably a little bit of both. A little bit of both. Hoping he could make some extra money off of it, but certainly born out of heat. I don't even think the Jeff Jarrett vocals it's the backup singers that are the most irritating thing on that song I find I wonder how much of it we'll see because then this leads directly into him and the roadie having a feud because then it's revealed that it was Brian Armstrong who was actually singing the songs.
The roadie. The roadie. Jesse James. Go to the ring. Bob Holly versus the Brooklyn Brawler. We got a recap of Henry O'Godwin versus Adam Baum. Adam Baum gets slopped. Godwin versus Barry Horowitz. my close personal friend henry o godwin of all the wrestlers he looks better than anybody he does look well it's it's incredible and he i mean Sandman looks good too, but he's got coffin makeup on.
well so did phil last night i don't know if you appreciated that on the close-ups i was like i did i did notice they went a little heavy on the powder they went heavy phil must have been uh had a late mother's day or something yeah yeah yeah he's hung over He spent all of Mother's Day talking about how he doesn't care. I don't care. I don't care what the people say. My mom doesn't bother me. I don't give a shit. I don't care.
Sid comes down to the ring. Godwin is still hanging around on the... outside bam bam is doing his entrance godwin uh is walking down the aisle they do a stare down classic classic um iron chic sergeant slaughter type gimmick um henry comes back costs bam bam the match We got a package on the Special Olympics.
I say this every time. The best day I ever had as the Florida mascot was the day that the Special Olympic athletes came and were in McGinley Center and I got to go in. It was like... i i was never more appreciated never more beloved hugged probably every single person in that room was probably there for An hour and a half saying hello to every single person. It was great. One of the best days of my life. This next match gets a star just for the historical significance in my mind.
the raw debut of Waylon Mercy. Waylon Mercy versus Jeff Hardy. It is quite something to think of how many years the Hardys were around in WWF. You know? yeah and i you know once they actually had jobs um and they were like on that mcfoley uh videotape in their sort of uh sunset strip Rock and roll gear still. Yeah. You know. With three faces of foley.
worth mentioning on the commentary they do plug a Star Wars marathon that's coming up on the USA Network Waylon Mercy is so interesting because it's so funny how good he is at the gimmick and how good the gimmick is and how in this instance it like totally doesn't work because it's um in the way that vince keeps trying to push it Yeah. Because Vince is so upset that like Waylon Mercy shakes the referee's hand and shakes his opponent's hand because he's like, he's not nice. Look at him smiling.
this is terrible. And then he really doesn't do anything in the match. Like everything that Waylon Mercy does, Vince is like, this is fucking awful. This is terrible that he's doing this. And I'm like, he's just wrestling the match. He's not doing anything. underhanded the next raw he like is is a piece of shit to doink and he like holds the rope up and lets it snap on his back and goes oh it slipped it slipped out of my hands it's like okay that i'm done with
But the weird phony prison tattoos all over him are hilarious. But the finish is great. he has him in the hold and then he when he does that wide-eyed crazy look Phenomenal. And then we end with a visit to Lawler in the dentist's office. He's in the waiting room of Isaac Gangnam. Scaring the shit out of some kids next to him. Then a guy comes running out of the actual dentist's office with a bloody rag on his mouth. And then we see the close-up of Glenn Jacobs' green and yellow teeth.
fucking phenomenal unbelievable trash he is so lucky i mean honestly people look yeah it is it is such a trash gimmick but the truth is Glenn Jacobs is really lucky that he didn't get brought in as the third Godwin cousin. Right. You know, with that redneck, inbred, mountain man look. And they instead made him a crazy dentist. Should thank his lucky fucking stars. No doubt. Up next from the Raw Vault on Netflix. Netflix. August 14th, 1995.
The Worcester Auditorium. What's interesting is the... on the internet at least on the the pro wrestling wiki i kept trying to figure out how to change it i don't know how to change if anybody out there knows how to change it on fandom uh they have this listed as the worcester centrum
Which it is not. The Worcester Centrum is a fucking giant arena. This is the Worcester Auditorium. I saw... the mighty mighty boss totes in this room pick it up pick it up around this time in 1995 as a matter of fact oh yeah and who opened for them um Siv? Is that the name of the band? Oh, definitely. Siv. They had that song, Eat It While I Work. That's not Siv's song. I don't know if that wasn't Siv. Whoever does that song. Eat It While I Work. Yeah. Okay. What is that band? Let's see.
Yeah, you know, my work song is... stamp oh no hagfish hagfish there you go that name yeah they opened and it was great they had a um I think it was the guy from the Dropkick Murphys came out playing bagpipes. And then, no, no, no, no. They had a guy playing bagpipes.
And then on the PA, they played the dropkick Murphys, you know, caters to arms. And then the Boston's hit the stage and then just fucking ripped it up. Big time. Phenomenal show. But again, like what the aaw shows you have all that ornate like your your your eye is drawn to like the balcony and you're like what what is this what are these these carvings what are these the symbols around the room like this is fucking It's gorgeous. It's a toy.
We open up with a HBK package. We got Vince and Ted DiBiase on the ones and twos. Waylon Mercy opens up a doink. The front row, anybody who watches this show would notice, everyone in the front row has clearly been given 107.3 WAAF t-shirts. This was the Hard Rock radio station in Boston. You can pick it up in Providence. This is where Obi and Anthony started, actually. I have a U2. They started over there? Absolutely. That's where they started. Okay. Yep.
i remember hearing them on the radio being like these guys are this is crazy yeah I put it in the Discord. I have a WAF sticker on one of my boxes of comic books. This next promo video gets a star. Goldust. This might be the first time we're hearing from Goldust. He is standing in front of a green screen of the Warner Brothers Studios.
which is funny because you can make out like tiny toon adventures behind him um he's also wearing this didn't last very long in my memory he's wearing the gold tuxedo So he's got like a little ball tie and the gold jacket. Um... It is really something. What a gimmick. I mean, really, what a gimmick. obviously they didn't need to, you know, push the homophobic button, push it really hard. Yeah. You know, as, but again, it's Vince McMahon making himself laugh.
oh man what a fucking what a fucking promo and wisp like almost like you're you're turning up the volume on your set because you're like yeah like everybody in this era is screaming. Yeah. This guy comes out and just starts whispering. I'm like, that's what you fucking do, dude. You make yourself stand apart. Unbelievable.
uh henry godwin comes up to the desk he is upset with ted devias he gives him the slot bucket oof they come back from commercial doc hendrix the free bird michael ps has replaced ted At the announce desk. He is keyed up, dude. Yeah, man. And also, I don't know what's going on, but Vince keeps ribbing him about him being too 80s. Oh. We are the Ring of Smoking Guns.
versus, I had to look this up because they do not do a good job introducing their opponents, Cody Wade and Bill Garrett, who are, they look like the number 10, they look like the Blues Brothers. But wearing the exact same outfit, so I guess they worked together for a little bit. We get the report card with Dean Douglas. Oh yeah, welcome aboard there. Looking young, svelte.
And thirsty for a case of White Claws, that's for sure. Won't be around long. He refused a tape of Bret Hart and unfortunately gives him an F. We got an HBK promo via the TitanTron. Talked about his match against Jerry Lawler. We get Triple H against Jeff Hardy in a nice little match. Hunter Hirst-Helmsley. He is so good at that. just disgusted blue blood snob yeah unbelievable just the way he curls his lips and it's just like oh stop touching me
We got the SummerSlam report. I'd be interested to watch this SummerSlam. comma versus the undertaker come on a couple of odds from the bsk Let's see. Henry Godwin in the ring against Russ Greenberg. Then we got Lawler back in the dentist's office. Now he's actually in the room. I don't know if this is breaking HIPAA laws, but he's in the room while there's a patient getting their mouth drilled.
um he pulls out the big needle for the novocaine cuts back to to free bird and vince at the desk and they're both like Oh, then we got a promo for some Pogs, some WWF madcaps that you can get. Oh, yeah. And then the big, big main event, Heartbreak Kid, Shawn Michaels versus Jerry the King Lawler. Sid comes out at one point, eyeballing the IC belt.
Then eventually Sid gets in the ring. It's a DQ. Razor gets in, makes the save. The whole thing ends in a big schmoz. And that is your raw vault homework for the week. Fucking big time, dude. where i think where can they go you know what sabu dude you know what sabu My favorite wrestler is also Sabo. Yeah, dude, come on.
i didn't even bother poking around peacock to see what sabu they have on there i went straight straight to the dvds you know they got they got some all right stuff i'm sure they do like i didn't grab the ecw pay-per-view discs i have because i was like those are on there but
The frustrating part is that, you know, when they put together collections, it's just the shows. Yeah. It's like, you know if it's i think they maybe even have like a rob van damme and sabu collection and you're just like left to go through each and every
pay-per-view or show that they got on there. It's very, yeah. There's no care put into it. And on the network, you used to be able to search like a like a wrestler's name you can't do that you know yeah and the old network you used to be able to because they wouldn't even have time stamps of the matches odd that the worst part was they would have a timestamp of just the finish. Right. As though I just want to watch the guy get pinned. Like, why would you? You're also spoiling the match.
i'm gonna be watching more of that stuff i mean i was thinking about ivp they must have like some blu-rays of uh the best of sabu or something right i think so i was i was thinking maybe go back through some of the um google drives to see what's got on there but yeah and i would have come
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