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Well, hello there, Maddie McSee. Patreon.com, bonus audio, bonus video, Q&A. You had a Maddie solo 0.5 over the weekend. Oops. you had a uh no they loved it the kids well no i know they loved it you know whatever oops oops all maddie there you go there you go i didn't call you crunchberry I love it. I've been swimming in raw sewage. I love it. The road to WrestleMania. Getting spicy.
We're on it. We're walking. I feel like every day until we are sitting next to each other on a private jet headed for Las Vegas, I'm going to be... I went through my old hard drive here with all the pictures from my old phone on it. Okay. What I want to find... well i i mean there's quite literally thousands of meaningless screenshots because i just i just dumped everything yeah obviously i want to grab all the stuff of jack when he was
a baby or smaller, smaller than a baby that isn't in this shared folder that we use with the family. The point is I have footage from the last Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers show. Oh, that's only on there. And I'm like, I gotta find that before this thing gets corrupted and it vanishes. But in so doing. I have discovered and rediscovered so many pictures. Yeah. Well, we also have a shared wrestling folder on the phone, you and me. Which I am going to start.
putting this stuff in there yeah i need to start populating that a little bit too i uh i went to las vegas for 24 hours this weekend just to do a little pre-scout just to see what the what the vibe was and uh About the same as Las Vegas. It's always weird because there's so many arenas, stadiums that I've been in only for wrestling.
Cause we went to the hot, we went to the hockey game, but I've never set foot in T-Mobile. If it wasn't for a wrestling show, you know, there's, there's a lot of those where people be like, do you ever go to like, yeah, but not for football. Yeah, it's funny. I've been to SoFi twice now and never once for a fucking football game. Sure.
Yeah. Well, it sounds like you're going to be going back there because it looks like Money in the Bank is going to be there. SoFi? That's what the sniff is. That's a big room for Money in the Bank.
ah they're just they're stadium in every fucking show i mean i guess it probably works out it must work out you know whether you fucking sell it out or not it just works out financially to do it that way that's what it seems like you know um i mean it just sounds it just you know and it sounds bigger to the outside oh sure it's but i mean even for somebody on the inside it sounds oh yeah pretty fucking big
I'm sure it'll be the largest gate of all time. Of course. Of course it will. Of course it will. Of course it will. Of course it will. Of course I am. um you know we uh we talked about it last week it feels even worse to me this fucking women's title situation um i mean Oh, no worry. We didn't just, so, but now EO sky has to wrestle her. Yeah. As, as the champion, she has to wrestle again to see who gets to wrestle Bianca. It's not like the,
The spotlight is on the person who qualified to wrestle for the belt, not the person who has the belt. Which is... doing it like i can see their thread of logic because you know even even just you know the raw vault homework right they're they're hyping up the 95 rumble
Sure. And Todd Pettengale and all his infinite charm. Isn't it funny how quick we got to the next Rumble on the homework? It was like two weeks we're at the next Rumble. They didn't put a lot of these up. Four episodes from 94. It's so funny. And then even like this, I mean, look, I don't want to get ahead of ourselves, but he makes the point. Whoever wins the Royal Rumble will face the champion, whoever that might be. Right. But the fact that they're making the champion.
as you say, jump through hoops. Well, they're just making her look like an idiot. They're making her look like a sucker. And even if she is so pissed that she walks out on last night or whatever and says, you know fuck it I'll wrestle you know like she's just she's mad and that just means like okay well I guess it's okay then that she has to wrestle Rhea next week because she was willing to wrestle whoever
You know what I mean? Like she was, she sort of was, I was like, Oh, are they just going to do a thing where she's like, I don't care. So I'll wrestle fucking three people or whatever, but, um, lame. It's lame. Well, Vince, how embarrassed must they be? You know, you've got these big international Monday Night Raws starting in the afternoon here in the United States. And then these dummies.
I sit down to watch raw from Glasgow and I turn it on these dummies. I don't know if it's WWE or if it's Netflix seg one starts. And I'm like, They're playing last week's tape. Well, not a lot of movement in the forward direction of this big, big main event of John Cena and Cody Rhodes, is there?
yeah i guess you know it's hard international travel is difficult but uh you know once you've priced out chris ross super fan chris ross then you you realize you have to realize you've got some issue but As it pertains to John Cena, the point that I wished I had made as soon as we got done last week is that he should be wearing fucking Travis Scott sneakers. I mean, I was like...
Of course, what is he doing in these fucking isotoners or whatever the fuck those things are? He should be wearing fucking like the most fucking rare, the rarest, most coveted Travis Scott sneakers he should now be wearing. But anyway. Maybe, maybe, you know, he's got plantar fasciitis or something and it doesn't work, but, uh, but this, but now I'm just, I just not feeling it. It's like.
now he's made this wholesale change in his personality and everything once the rock told him fuck this guy kicks the guy in the nuts now he's just like I just don't it's like you the heel needs to just i feel like they need to be the same person but the behavior needs to be a little different and they need to sort of be
aghast and or justifying the behavior. But now he's just like everything about him is the way he speaks. He's just a different person. It's, it is very, he got hit on the head and turned evil. Right. Right. yeah it's very um he's just you know it's like when kermit's evil or you know yeah i mean that meme that was going around of earnest yes yes yes but it is it's like it's like urkel walked into the machine and he comes out and he's just like now he hates the fans or something right yeah uh
But it is. It's been two weeks of... I mean, they hot-shotted this thing. This is such a great example of booking 101. They hot-shotted this with the Cena turn. with rock and and travis scott for some reason also involved in the beat down breaking cody's eardrum and then it's been the follow-up has been nothing we're we're close to a month now yeah of
Why did, what did rock do? Why did you side with the rock? Yeah. Rock has been mentioned not once. Right. Right. You know? And is it going to be, is it like.
yet again when we see the rock again it's just gonna be rock with a fucking a mop and a bucket and fucking cleaning it up why are you acting like this you know like just you know trying to clean the fucking the thing up and making it like i mean next time we see rock he's gonna be a baby face he's gonna be baby face in the crowd talking about it's gonna be insane it's gonna be insane yeah travis scott will be the one
He'll be the biggest heel. I mean, obviously, yeah. And obviously, things are very different. The audience is more in on it than they've ever been. Yeah. But I am curious if we'll get the numbers, if this has affected John Cena's, you know, sales of the, you know, the tech because he comes out in the Glasgow.
sure you know i'm just curious there there has to be it's got to be minimal but there has to be at least one guy who's like fuck that why would i buy this guy's shirt now right you know so for sure oh i mean i think i think for sure that has to have happened on some level i mean but i think there's also as far as being in on it you know there's that person who's like well i better get this fucking shirt it's like the last one what if it's like you know what if it's like
you know especially the town specific ones it's like I mean fuck you know I bring it up pretty much every morning I forgive myself for missing out on the Bret Hart appreciation shirt You know, I, you know, the funny thing I haven't checked with, you know, in the last little bit, but I was looking for a little while. I never saw one of those raw programs pop up on eBay.
Because I was always like, oh, you didn't get that raw program because the line was so big at the first raw. Oh, right. They actually made a program, which they never do. But I haven't even seen one pop up on eBay. No, it's wild. And thank you. Like, you know, at Revolution, I went to the merch stand. And of course, it was, you know, scant, scant. But it's the same online.
It's the same program that AEW just has at every show, apparently. But then the, but the, the event is 50 fucking bucks. And I'm just like, that's.
there's no way that's the direct i know that's the direction shit's going and and the other thing that just like you know makes you fucking rageful is that you know the shirt is a piece of shit a fucking direct to garment piece of shit and it's 50 bucks and you can't get no eggs at the grocery store anyway uh i mean 35 what i mean now i just feel like i'm a kid talking about when they priced out uh comic books you know yeah well that was the thing it was like when you go to a
like a concert you know like a rock concert you're like yeah shirts are gonna be 50 you know because that's just and so i think wrestling is just trying to catch up um but
But whatever. I mean, the difference is the Rolling Stones aren't touring a different city every single weekend, multiple cities a week. Yeah, but... the in the in their mind they're only seeing those people that that weekend and they may not fucking see them again for you know but uh you know the in talking about things that aren't working for mania
Other than it being mania and it's going to be awesome and whatever, but just in, in a sense of like the build, the build has been, it's like, so, you know, I was just reading, you know, that the company is very happy with how.
how much merch jay uso sells and that there's a guy who from the top jay uso there's a guy who uh i think is suffering a little bit from the thing they always tried to accuse danielson of which is like ah the crowd they just like to do the thing you know because people go apeshit with the yeet right yeah and the entrance and the yeet but i don't know
I mean, this whole deal of like, you know, I understand like being the underdog, but this thing of him just being like, oh man, no one thinks I can do it. Yeah. It's like. And then he slapped the shit out of Gunther, dude. That sounded like a fucking gunshot. He slapped that fool. But, um, yeah, so I'm hoping that, uh, cause it like, it doesn't for me at least.
um i need something else to really beat up for that match not going like you can do it come on you know like i know like i there's nothing um that's unattractive the the the baby face who's like oh i can't fucking do it man and it's like no yeah you can it's like no I need like Gunther to send ICE agents to Jay's house and try to get him thrown out or something. You know, like something that's going to really fucking turn the knob here. Right. John Bradshaw Layfield at the border.
Looking for the rest of the bloodline. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You're such an idiot. You're like, you don't even know. He doesn't even know what Jey Uso is. You know, he doesn't know what his background is, what his culture is. Right, right, right. It's just like, get him out. Post-mania, that'll be the angle with Grande Americano. He's trying to stop the Usos from crossing the border. I hope the post-match angle from last night is him finding a mask that fits.
I'm like, did they get that thing made? And it's like fucking two sizes too big. It's fucking gigantic. Probably. I mean, the gimmick is still, isn't it funny that Chad Gable's small? They probably did it on purpose. I got it. We'll fucking call him the big American because he's not big. I don't know if you habla espanol, but grande americano. Is actually a drink. We'll call an order from Starbucks. I fucking get like, like Triple H is just sitting there with his coffee. And he's just like.
We got to come up with a gimmick for Chad Gable. Sip. Wait, I got it. Yeah, dude. But somebody needs to fucking he needs to put that. put that hood in the dryer, wash it hot and put it in the dryer and see if it shrinks down a little bit for him. Cause I mean, you think of the greats of all time. No kidding. You think of the greats of all time. I'm back on the J Uso thing.
you know, cause fifth from the top J. So it's like, I I'm supposed to, I'm supposed to do it. I'm supposed to fucking get like, get your dick hard to fucking win this belt. Yeah. This mid card fucking belt. Yeah. You know? Right. Like, fuck off. Like Hulk Hogan, you know, Stone Cold Steve Austin. I mean, Bret Hart, it's like Bruno San Martino, at any point, are they like, I can't do it. You know, and it's like, it started out with him going like, fuck you, I can do it.
no matter what people say, even though there wasn't, I wasn't really hearing the groundswell of people saying you couldn't, but him saying like, you say I can't, but I can. And then, and now it's just like gotten to him. And now he's just like. No, I mean, what should get to him is that he calls himself main event Jey Uso, and it's like, you couldn't be further from the fucking main event, you know? CM Punk's closer to the main event.
I mean, CM Punk's hair is closer to God than Jey Uso. Come on, man. Whoa. Whoa. WrestleMania. That's going to be here in a hot minute, dude. This is fucking, this is ramping up. You're going to the hall. You decide you're going to the hall? Hey, man. Where's Matty? Matty's at the hall. Where's Matty? Matty's at the sphere. All right. He'll let us know when he gets back.
I mean, you think Othiel is going to be playing at the sphere with dead and co instead of at mania. Give me a break. He's going to be Othiel Bainbridge, man.
what's he do the music for wwe or something will you stop remember when we saw i forget what shirt he was wearing when we saw the dead at uh dodger stadium probably a mankind shirt always always plays in a wrestling shirt yes yes yes yes he's down he knows he's still playing right he's still in the band he plays with the dead yeah he came up he was in uh you know the almond brothers and vita blue and
Unbelievable. I think he's going to miss Mania. I don't know the dates exactly, but I think they're conflicting. All of a sudden, Bob Weir gets a call that morning. It's just O'Toole. He's just like, I can't make it. I'm sick. I think I'm going to... You think you're going to what? I think... I feel like I tried to do this last year and it, and it got muffed. So I'm going to try this year to get the magazine that I have with Luger and sting on the front and get them both to sign it.
Where's Sting going to be? Is he signing shit? WrestleCon? Yeah, he's doing WrestleCon. Well, that leads into my question. You think Tony lets Sting induct Lex?
it sounds like probably not but i don't know it sounds it sounds like no but but the other thing that i'm wondering about is like there's a few people at wrestlecon that i'm going like so is wwe just waiting until like friday to pull them you know like luger now that luger's going in the hall yeah right is luger gonna still be there you know like i bet i bet you know that's their thing you know i mean is uh
I mean, at this point, it's got to be like when Randy Savage, excuse me, when Randy Orton gets around contract negotiation time and he starts tweeting about how much he loves AEW. Yeah. Is, is booking yourself at WrestleCon, just another negotiating tactic with these guys with legends deals or something? Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I like, I see where, you know, it's another.
like oh you know tony just fucking let's ding like induct his friend or whatever but it's also like when when this other company is trying to fuck you at every turn you're supposed to be the nice guy right like like no one you know it's like that's the thing like no i have no issue with him going like yeah sorry you're not fucking doing that neither yeah like who cares like i mean look i love watching the hall of fame we talk about this every year but
There is no Hall of Fame. Right. I wonder what they did with those in the new WWE building. What they did with the elevator. Because all they had was an elevator. with the names of everybody that was inducted it was like they had three elevators and then the one in the middle had the names of everybody in the hall of fame and that was the hall of fame and then they had two tv sets one
was Fox News on mute, and the other one was WWE Network. This was before WWE Network, so it was just an internal feed of wrestling playing. Right. See, I didn't notice when there was that... in the new building when when cm punk locked himself in there trying to sniff panties i didn't see when he was walking around if there was any hall of fame names on the walls oh my god i mean i don't
I, I, you know, we don't want to get too personal, but it's just like, when, when, when is it going to, when is the show? This is the show. When is it going to come out? That's what you always tell me. You want to get too personal? Who fucking cares?
How much longer does his marriage have? Oh, please. I don't care. I'm wishing them well. I wish them well, too. I hope everything's great in Silver Lake. That's what I'm saying. I wish them well. I hope everything's great. And their kayfabe home in Chicago. But, um, but anyway, I didn't see, so I, I haven't had a full fledged tour of the new facility, uh, in Stanford, but hopefully at some point we'll get the invite. We can make that happen.
I mean, we'd have to be in Connecticut. Never say never in this business. That's the biggest hurdle. Next time you're in Rhode Island, I'll just meet you out there and we'll take the drive. Hop on the private jet. Send the plane. What are you going to get Ronda Rousey to sign when you're there? Oh, a cup of hot coffee. Who's going to have the longest line? Is it going to be Soraya because of all of the pervs or is it going to be Iron Mike Tyson because he's actually famous? Well, um...
That's another interesting one. I think Soraya is obviously going to have a huge line, but in looking at Cause like he, as recently as last night, I, I went back to see, because I also have a magazine that's got Muda and Nakamura on the front. And I was thinking like, maybe I get Nakamura to sign this thing. Cause he's going to be over at the WWE version of WrestleCon. Interesting.
But then I see that he's only doing photo ops. But anyway, what I mean to say is when I'm looking over there, most people are sold out except for the Garganos of the world and some other folks. But Tyson wasn't sold out at WWE. Now, maybe that's because you can just get it at WrestleCon and you don't got to pay as much money to get in the door to then pay to get it. But I thought it was interesting. The world too? Yeah. So that's another one where you're going like...
how is this going to work but but i don't think wwe doesn't have him under contract so that's probably a little harder for them to you know if you're on a legends deal then it's like you better get the fuck over here you know but if you're tyson you're just like You've brokered through Fanatics. You've brokered through whoever's got him at WrestleCon. I don't think they're going to be able to pull that shit. I thought it was interesting that he wasn't even sold out at the WWE event.
That's incredible. But neither is poor Shinsuke. So maybe you need to go get a picture with him. Just to make him feel a little better. Shinsuke Nakamura. get you an obi obafemi or something you know one of these one of these people who need a little couple extra people in their line what what are they gonna you know i don't what are they gonna bring iron back you know
Can we get Arne a payday? Can we get Arne a job in the back? Arne's probably going like, I think I might have to hire my son and I'd be happy to show up, whatever. You know, boss, I'd love for you to get your eyes off. Brock needs a payday.
Paul trips. I just love you get your eyes on Brock. You know, this kick, this kick can fucking go, you know, you get this fucking kid out there. He'll fucking kick right in the fucking dick. He'll just fucking flatten you like a goddamn fucking flapjack. Monkey flip you out the room. Yes. But, uh, so I think that who knows, but the, the, you can ask him because they will also be at Russell con. So you can go to the Anderson table and, uh, inquire. Um, next question.
Do we stake out Buff Bagwell's table far enough away that he can't tell it's us? And then we test. We call his cell phone number that he gave me on Cameo. See if his phone blows up. See if he looks at it. He lifts up his fucking glasses and he just looks at it. Everybody pause the line. I gotta take this. This is my buddy.
No, we should, we should absolutely do that. Yeah. Yeah. Oh fuck. Yeah. We're doing that. We're definitely calling buff bag. Well at Russell con, no fucking question about it. Like you, you videotape him. Mr. Bagwell, yes, Matt McCarthy calling. You had gave me this number. Yes, I got a cameo from you from the best buds.
few years ago and i just wanted to know if you if the author still stands that you do anything and everything to your fans or if now that you have uh found sobriety that you're thinking about that a little different right i just want to know uh you and me can we party our asses off safely tonight that's right let's party our fucking asses off safely And then you and me, we go over to Damien 666's table and just start some shit. Yeah. Oh, this is going to be too fun. I'm like demolition.
They just got a Legends deal or something, didn't they? I believe so. Or the rumor is they might be going into the Hall of Fame. I thought I saw that they had gotten a Legends deal, but who is the...
Right now, all they have announced is Triple H, Mrs. Taker, and Lex. No, they also announced... Did they announce... They announced the... god what's the fucking you know a typhoon and fucking earthquake uh the natural disaster natural disasters yeah so that's your because you you know you triple a i don't know it's we're still with this is only the second year of the hunter hearse helmsley hall of fame sure but the formula that had been established under vince was
You know, one headliner. Which is me. There's nobody fucking bigger than me. One headliner, one woman, one black person, one dead person. A tag team. And then, um, you know, the warrior wards. Sure. Well, we'll see. They got a whole, uh, they got a whole theater to fill. You know, they can't just take it off the back of SmackDown anymore. I mean, SmackDown, you mean the negative one of Mania where they put half the card?
and then they still got to do fucking triple threat we're gonna be it's gonna be nothing but you split mania into two nights yeah and it's still too much shit to fit in your five pound bag you still got to do fucking triple threats yeah Oh, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
What were your thoughts and feelings? You're not a gore guy. No gore. No butthole. I mean, I do like Rhino, the move that Rhino does. Sure, sure, sure. I'm talking more along the lines of... um spikes in your back spikes in your back spikes in your back you got the spikes spikes spikes in your back oh what you smoking crack you got spikes in your back all right Felt unnecessary. I, uh... I legit... Like...
he's so fucking lucky. He didn't like, like stab his spinal cord. Yeah. Like that, that was one of the dumbest things I've ever seen anybody do. And then it's stuck in his fucking back. And then goddamn Wheeler Yuta. Oh, Wheeler. Like you weren't bringing the match down already. You had to make the grossest thing.
even grosser. That was horrifying. Yeah. Uh, and then what Paul Turner had to step in there. I mean, you know, it was like, come here. Yeah. You just, uh, you do this. Yeah. You did it. You know, he's like, yeah. You know, when the string of cheese from the pizza hits the front of your face and starts to burn it, you know? When we went to Jared Logan and Care Clank's house. Sweet!
when they had their, their, their first baby and Jack was, I don't know, four maybe. I mean, Jackie boy, teeny tiny pre COVID and smaller than a baby. we had smaller than a baby and we we had it was a photo opportunity where jack is sitting on the couch holding the baby and it's like whoa and it's like okay this is everyone support the head support the head everyone's being close you know
The baby, as babies do, let loose a Dairy Queen dump. With all the sound effects that you'd come to expect. Yes.
And Jack, in his little three or four-year-old mind, his best thinking was, oh, and they pushed the baby. Didn't push the baby onto the floor. But much like Wheeler Yuta with the... the giant toothbrush of death nope it was just like oh no oh you do this yo yeah well you know uh what's the term um devour feculence i think that's right devour feculence i mean and it's so funny too because they had to they had to like
Half a week to think of cope and mocks. How are we going to top what the girls did on the pay-per-view? Well, yeah. And, and they, they also now have like next, next week is, uh,
They have another pay-per-view. April 5th or 6th are one of those days. So not this weekend, but the next weekend is another AEW coming back to swerve and mocks. And they're putting... saturday night's main event up against it right okay yeah probably the people that want to play nice and have sting and duck his buddy yeah why why are you being such an asshole about it why you gotta be a fuck why are you being a fucking dick about it
Because it worked out so well for Tony when he let Billy Gunn go get inducted. Sure. Vince, buy that piss hand company just so he can fire you again. Yeah, I mean... The fact that they mentioned every other wrestling company on the planet now on their TV. Oh, yeah. Big or small, except for AEW. Yeah. Yep. But no, we're not affected.
um we're not worried about them hopefully swerve just wins that belt and then mox uh goes in the witness protection program for like six months um and when he returns he's unrecognizable to us from before. He's, uh, oh, we got a new young upstart. He's like, he's like the, uh, the fucking, um, when, when Tony storm came back. Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
he's like paradigm shift i'm just excited to be here he comes back doing his um doing his uh you know dragon gate usa he's just like he went into the to the lake of rejuvenation or whatever it was yeah he goes to turkey and gets the hair transplant he's got the jean jacket he's back to fucking he's back to fucking uh moxley 101 He really does seem like a guy. I mean, never say never in pro wrestling, but he really does seem like a guy that he's just like, he might genuinely not give a fuck.
about like that shield reunion that everybody would love to see? Oh, I would think for sure. Like just, just thinking back to, um, I can't remember. It must've been, it must've been cabana, but I remember hearing him. Yeah. It was probably cool cabana, but he did an interview when he left WWE and also like, the couple that he's done with his wife, it just, you just get the sense that he doesn't give a fuck and that he, and that like to him going back to WWE, whether Vince is there or not.
like you know and he also seems like a guy who you know he's like i'm driving this truck i have until it fucking falls apart like he doesn't seem like a guy who's gonna be like tempted because of like a contract yeah for sure And I think he would maybe almost prefer to like, fuck it up for everybody, you know, like, yeah, you know, you don't get that. We're not doing that, you know? Right. Yeah. It's just like, I mean.
obviously they're not the beatles but it is it's like that it's like no the beatles are never getting back together right you know you're just not it's just not uh fuck you because he also has to go like you know like uh yeah i don't know whatever the situation might be like where do i get slotted here you know yeah yeah for what like i'm not what am i gonna get out of it like it's it's it's it's you it's it's triple h that
you know because he never really like you think about like his title run there and the thing with the fucking austin podcast like he never Before he left, he never really got going. And then they turned him into the fucking lunatic. And it was like, he was fucking, he was headed down our truth Avenue and he got the fuck out, you know? Yeah.
so it's not as if when he let i mean he's he would he would come back i think with a little bit of a cody rhodes thing you know like because because he's oh he would be the fucking prodigal son but Once that fucking six months is over, then what do you do? Are you willing to fucking then dig ditches or you wish you were just home with your fucking family?
Because it's, you know, the only motivating factors, I mean, first of all, he would have to be Dean Ambrose again, which would make him... i would i would assume would make him insane you know just the fact that he's like has to change his name right um but like it's there's if you're not gonna tempt the guy with money
if the if the guy really is just like i got all the fucking money i need like what how much money do you need if he's one of those dudes yeah or if it's like the ego thing where it's just like yeah it's never gonna be fucking as big as mania he's just like i fucking did mania like i don't give a shit you know because because the bottom line is it's like like a super dragon right like a guy who really truly doesn't give a fuck
you know would would watch the young bucks match and then leave his own show because he just just like i don't give a fuck like yeah has a a seemingly guess who i'm doing this for me yeah has a very healthy boundary between this is my job. I am not a Mark. Yeah. Like you're not like, this is the reason like the Bill Goldbergs and the Brock Lesnar's are able to.
milk so much money out of wwe because they have fuck you they have they like chapel rone talked about i have walk away energy she's like i have i've been signed i've been dropped i've worked at the drive-thru she's like I don't give a fuck. Like I, I will walk away from this shit right now. You know, Mox, Mox strikes me as falling into somewhere in that category, you know? And also, yeah.
yeah he's just mox is like what we can live in a one bedroom what's matter renee he's like who gives a he's like because he really is he's he does strike me as that guy of just like He's like, I used to live, I lived in the living room. L.A. Knight lived in the bedroom. And then there was another guy who slept in between. Like, this is no problem. Right. He's the guy who's just like, you know, once I started making three grand a week, I was like.
no that's i made it he's like every everything else is he's like the money's just sitting there he's like i'm not doing anything with it right yeah Are you planning on getting an autograph from Nick Wayne's mom? Oh, is she going to be signing? Brother, she's going to be there Thursday and Friday. Hmm. I guess I'll have to see. You've got to stretch your dollar in this economy. Here's my question. Rick Steiner no longer banned from WrestleCon? I found that interesting as well.
I found that interesting as well. Um, yeah, I don't know. I couldn't tell you what happened there. Uh, other than I'm not interested. I mean, Other than Trump won the election and they figured, oh, we don't want to get in trouble. Yeah, this is where we're cool. We'll get we'll get canceled. It's the other way around. But I just don't.
I don't care about the Steiners anyway, so that's fine for me. There's no, uh, no, I'm, I luckily got an autograph from them. Um, cause I mean, are we, are we tricking ourselves into thinking that Scott is a super left wing liberal? Or just that Scott's smart enough to keep his fucking mouth shut. Scott's the level-headed one. Yeah, Scott's the decent, law-abiding, upstanding citizen with morality and decency.
No. Luckily, I checked them off my list of, eh, there's nobody else I feel like getting an autograph from, and there's no line, and me and Case will just go over there. ask them what their favorite movie is. I guess what we'll do is as we walk the WrestleCon floor is just note which people... sitting at tables have a YouTube super tape of fucked up shit they've done. And if it's just the Steiners. Right, right, right. What about Dan Severin?
I'm just scrolling through and I'm just like, you know what? I mean, I'd be down to maybe get a picture with Dan Severn. It's funny, like so many, they're sort of, someone's bringing in like the OG. ufc guys because it's like i feel like severin and i saw like uh shamrock gonna be there no i don't think this time shamrock but it's like uh
What about Rodman? I mean, you're a Detroit guy. Yeah, I do like Dennis Rodman, but I don't know that I would... Not at the top of my list. Especially, I mean, again, I don't... uh it also like it's one of those things where like you look at the price and you're like um that might be right yeah um yeah so someone's bringing in don fry mark kerr josh barnett dan severin butter bean
Butterbee not in that class of early MMA really he's like kind of more of a tough man but yeah he did the tough man thing and then I think they're supposed to be announcing more I don't know and it's funny mark kerr that's the guy who the rock is making a movie about and and when you when i saw like a picture of the rock from like the set he somehow is like kind of transformed into that guy a little bit
at least an appearance does odb still wrestle odb yeah i don't think so i think she's just she had built up enough that she's just around yeah It feels like she's at the autograph shows and then she's got the food truck. Yeah. You know, always down to kick it with Nash. I know. He's the only one that I'm like... I can convince myself to do a repeat of... I don't know if I have an 8x10 of him signed. We have the picture. We have several pictures with him.
Is that the great Vincent Price on your shirt? I gotta know. What is your favorite Vincent Price movie? But yeah, man, I'm just, I feel like we've... Muda's a death. For me, I'm definitely getting Muda. Yeah, maybe there's a PWI, like a sweet cover to get Muda to sign or something. I have this poster that I purchased from WrestleCon before. Oh, that poster is so fucking hard, dude. But this...
You know, I, um, I gotta have something around here with, uh, with the paint. Cause this is, you know, this is without the paint. Uh, I wish, I wish there was like a fucking. high-res photo of him spraying mist on the electrified cage in WCW. I wish there was. One of my favorite Buddha moments when the cage catches on fire, he tries to spit it out. He spits it out. Yeah. Oh, sure.
ninja mac and mascara dorada announced for the fucking super show that should be interesting they're gonna do some flippy floppies i'll tell you that much pal um i You know, there was, there was a collision on Saturday and Sunday night this week. Oh, right. The, uh, the, the, the slam dunk or whatever after the NCAA tournament. And I, I, um, So, of course, my DVR was like, wait, what? Right, right, right. But I did on Sunday night.
this is the first like i i kind of pay attention i don't uh you know there's like the superstar sunday night the wwe thing on a and e uh-huh and this is the first one of this season that i was like okay i'm gonna watch that and it's um uh it was flare steamboat rivals which was a new one yeah um why no yeah this was a this was a new they've done that one before
No, I'm just saying in terms of the old network show where they did rivalries. This was produced for this thing that they do on A&E. So it was pretty cool. There was a little mix of... old and new the only thing i didn't need was um the rivals they have a couple of moments at the top and then throughout of this like round table that is spearheaded by a fluffy guy
So it was like Gabriel places. Yeah. He's the, he leads the conversation. Then you had a JBL Nash, Cody and Natalia. Um, but everything else, you know, was sort of hit or miss like keith elliott greenberg did a little you know he popped up just in a talking head so did um
uh what's his name the guy they they use all the time now who does the show with fucking sam roberts sam roberts yeah and whatever but uh but it was cool and they and the thing about it was you know it kind of like it wasn't just the 89 they kind of talked about you know
from steamboat first coming in and all that yeah i thought it was all right i thought it was all right but in fact i think does dark side of the ring premiere tonight i knew or soon i don't know if it's tonight i know that they're doing tonight I know they're doing hell in a cell on the dark side. Ooh. Yep. Tonight at 10. Do I have a McFoley 8x10? I mean, I have the Polaroid. I guess I have the Polaroid picture with him that he signed. He also signed my book. Mr. Foley, Mr. Foley.
Sign my book. Well, Mr. Foley, Mr. Foley, will you sign my book? Maybe Ultimo Dragon. You know, just going through the maybes. Oh, sure. shane douglas whoever has their table next to shane douglas uh careful because of bo dallas stresses steal your table shane shane ain't gonna say no uh actually he did i mean according to him when they they took the table he was like Those guys are coming back.
Well, and the other thing is we're not going to, it's not going to be as easy to get over with him because in, in Vegas, you know, those fucking seltzers will be at a fucking arm's length. He's not going to have to have us run out and grab. That's right. Yeah, that's right. Ain't going to do him no good.
I don't even, I don't even recognize sky blue anymore. Yeah. She, she has, uh, altered her appearance since, since she left with the injury. Mike Kiyota. How about, are you, are you gonna maybe smoke one cigarette? in honor of your old buddy mike kyota being in the house i mean if if kyota's offering you know i'm like i i can i can handle just one you want to bomb one you need anything at all you just ask me mike kyota
I didn't even see him on this list. Oh, Tank Abbott has been added to the... Really? Kyoto just got announced last night. Oh, okay. They announced Kyoto and Trevor Lee last evening. I gotta go through... Because the problem is there's no more wall space for frame 8x10s. So the ones that I do have that are...
you know, in old programs, I'm not even sure who's in there. You know what? I may, I may need to go to Sergeant Slaughter since that, that one that we got, um, has just, you know, vanished off the face of the earth. That's on me, dude. You know, I'll make it up to you, Doug. That's on both of us. And he, you remember what a great deal he cut. I mean, it's a different economy now, but what a great deal he cut.
where i just i got the picture on the autograph and he threw me in the um the cobra clutch and then he threw you in the cobra clutch too for a picture Just being nice. You know, it's funny. When I was in Vegas this weekend, we were there for my niece's birthday. She is an FBI agent. Is that who was in the pictures with you? Yeah, I guess I'm allowed to say that.
but uh she goes uh she's talking about whatever and she goes circus circus sketchy so so i go that's where rocker's staying i go hey rocker man my my niece you know she's in the fbi she said uh circus circus is sketchy he goes it will be when i walk in the door yes all right here's here's where my mind's at okay here's the here's the potential list
Your thing just flickered. I'm turning off this Wi-Fi. Didn't realize it was on. Arne Anderson, potentially. I may have an Arne photograph somewhere. But here's the deal. Tully's also going to be there. Ooh. Brain busters. Right. So now there's a potential for some sort of a brain busters or even a four horseman gimmick, right? Gimmickry. Kurt Angle, always a possibility. He's certainly, of this group, the biggest name that I have not approached yet. It's always...
Maybe it was LA where he like walked in a side door and was sitting at his table. And it was like, I think we can sit here for a second. And either we thought there was no line and there actually was a big line or something. Cause I remember going like, Oh, maybe we need to grab angle. Cause it seems like he just, just sitting there.
Do you remember this at all? It might've been LA. They all kind of run. It rings a bell. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the LA one was weird too, because it was like all those separate rooms, but then also you had to go downstairs. Yep. Tully, I mentioned. Ultimo Dragon, I mentioned. This one is a no-brainer. You, me, the gun club. Oh.
I see you sneaking. I see you sneaking. You and me, Austin, Colton, guns up. Suns up, guns up. The suns are up. We got our buns out. We got our guns out. That's what I'm talking about, buddy. And we asked them pointers on self Tanner. Ooh, what, what could I, what could I be doing more in the gym? What can I be doing better? What could I be doing better for my complexion? Um,
This is very low on my list, but I am intrigued. Hollywood from The Gorgeous Ladies of Wrestling is going to be there. Oh, okay. But again... Do I give a shit? I don't. Do I have anything worth signing? Potentially some DVDs, but again, who cares? It's always interesting. There was like, um, I feel like last time there was like something we were going to maybe have somebody sign where we like, they might not even totally dig this. And I just found this.
magazine cover with Arne and Tully but it says Tully and Arne will fail under Bobby Heenan a special analysis and they kind of did you know hey guys can you just uh right Throw your John Hancock on this here. Yeah, I'm trying to remember. It's on the tip of my tongue. I know exactly what you're referencing. But yeah, it was like, this would be cool.
like the pictures are really cool but then it's like now man this says something like look at this jerk face you know right yeah i don't know i i have i have my like i still have my shit in the thing that i took to mania last year so as soon as i go in there right probably become clear to me what it was but because that's that's that's what i have been doing like last two trips where it was like the mania um
I suppose the program, or at least some sort of a magazine, it must be the program, that's where the autographed 8x10s are. Because it's stiff, they're not going to get bent, but then also it keeps it... you know, chronologically sorted. And you've got to keep it chronological. So like, what was last year? Philly? I don't remember. I don't remember. Where was WrestleCon in Philadelphia?
in our hotel and it was like down on a sort of like mezzanine level remember you like got out and you could look down into the lobby right and there was like there was maybe even two floors again because remember we were like coming down the escalator And Dolph was like, no, he's gone. Like we were looking, we were, we were looking stink, right? Yeah. Cause we had got like the pro photo, but we were looking for the signature and that's right. Dolph's like, ah, he's gone, man. Uh,
that's right so yeah maybe sting again too this year and there was like it was like also like a couple rooms because um there was like the room where the hardies were and then you came through a door and abdullah was like the first person on the corner right okay yes thank you That's right. Abdullah. Like, yeah, it was like this, this doesn't feel like this is going to happen again. Right. Yeah. That very much felt, uh, like such an anomaly and my God, God did his wife run.
a terrible business at that table of just, yeah, I mean, you can't like everything, but you should like decide what the price for something is on the spot. It feels like. you know when you go to the fucking when i would like go to the uh bodega in new york and they'd be like for you yeah it's this much you know like there's no prices on anything and they and they decided on this on the spot when they look at you no kidding
Yeah. So then that was also, I believe that was when we, Sid was supposed to be there, right? Right. Exactly. Yeah. Sid was supposed to be there. And then we did our video with Tony Schiavone.
yeah but you know what i might do i gotta i gotta you know this is this is on my possibility is uh i might i might just go link up with ahmed kick ahmed down a couple bucks this year unless of course he's working with that same guy and you'll see that guy then then i'm just gonna say hey i'm ed and i'm just gonna do the like this is like i want a table at the restaurant this is for your troubles ahmed this is for you yeah not for him
This is not for this guy. This is for you. Let me see. LAX FanFest? That's who Ahmed's with. and lag entertainment group yeah it might be the same guy i mean why wouldn't it be i'll have to check my yeah um maybe because he felt like the guy made him look like an asshole If those of you who don't know the story, Vince had bought the prepaid to get the autograph and the picture with Sid Vicious, who then subsequently passed away, what, a couple months after this, you know? Right.
And we go to the table. I forgot that he died. Oh, yeah. Like not long after. Yeah, I forgot that he died. Yeah, probably because of dealing with this fucking... this carny we go to the table and the the guy who's running the thing uh there's like we're like where's sid he's supposed to be here where's sid at you know like there was no like discussion of no email nothing like no it's not happening you know no already paid for it nope oh sid couldn't make it but instead um you can
get your picture an autograph with ahmed johnson who's sitting right here next to me yeah like right in front of him he's like oh he's like yeah um he's like yeah i think he even said like you can get a refund you'll need to email me uh whatever he's like or you can just transfer your credit here to ahmed i'm looking at ahmed and he's and i'm like well your exact words were no no no no
Don't do this in front of him. Don't make me feel like an asshole. Don't do this in front of Ahmed. Yeah. And I was like, and I thought that appreciated and thought that was very funny because he's like, yeah, this guy's a fucking jerk off. And I'm like.
You're sitting in front of a computer and I need to email you in order for you to fucking potentially give me my money back. You fucking cock. And I'm pretty sure it wasn't even an email. It was like you had to go to the website and fill out a form. No, it was an email. It was an email, but he was like, send it here, whatever. But I'm just like, why? You're sitting in front of your list of fucking, you know, anyway. You know exactly how much money you owe me. Don't try to get me fired up, McSee.
Remember your blood pressure. So I think the obvious ones are the guns. Guns up. Buns out, guns out. And Marty Jannetty. Oh, yeah? You want to kick it down to Mart? I mean, Marty is... I don't ever recall... Perhaps he's been at these before, but I don't recall seeing Marty... at any of these and then also like i don't necessarily need an autograph of his a picture with him would be hilarious but then at the same time that's a fucking x-factor lunatic
that you're like you have no you don't know what's going to come out of his mouth somehow we know what his favorite movie is though who did someone else get that information for us um that feels like someone yeah that that does ring a bell filtered it down to us, but, uh, you know, I don't remember what the film was or who found out and everything.
Also, this has high potential. The person running his table is called Genetti Inc. So I think it'll be another instance of somebody's old lady, maybe wife number two or three with an iPad. Who can't figure out what the hell we're doing. Nothing but a good time. Ain't nothing but a good time. Ain't nothing but a good time.
Don't get better than this. Maybe we can get some more details on, uh, the potential murder he confessed to on a, in an interview once. Hopefully no one instructed him to dummy up. hopefully he's still willing to speak on it depending on if you got a little pocket full of bells maybe he also strikes me as somebody if you ask him uh do you have a favorite vince story he'd be like oh yeah
This is real fucked up. Listen to this. Like, oh yeah. You ever heard about the time Vince hit a kid with his car? Oh, I bet. I bet he's got a Shawn Michaels or two story too. it's like man i once walked in on vince and sean they were going at it and i don't mean wrestling although they tried to pretend they were wrestling afterwards you know uh maddie what is it should we take a trip to not yet
Bill Mercer died. Oh, that's right. Bill Mercer died. Can I tell you how concerned I am about Bill Mercer dying? Last night when I was walking the dog.
I was like, I'm going to take this upon myself. I found the email, you know, it's just a generic email, but nonetheless, I sent an email to CBS Sunday morning. Okay. And was like, I. sincerely hope that bill mercer is included in this coming weekend's in passage where they list it's it's it's the the best part of the show where they do a quick obit for the names of note that have passed away that week because I'm like this guy is a legend you know
Sure. And even if CBS Sunday morning, uh, doesn't want to seem stupid, like they're tricked into thinking wrestling's real. He's still the guy who informed Lee Harvey Oswald that he was being indicted. Like Oswald says, I have not been charged. No one has told me this. And Bill Mercer's one is like, you have been charged. And Oswald's reaction is unbelievable. He's just like.
I might even watch that again. That was such a good little, whatever it was like from a year or two ago, that documentary that they put up. Great doc. Yeah. It was like national, some, something. I believe it was like one or two parts. But Bill Mercer was all over that fucking thing. He was all over it. And then it also spoke to, I'm like, whatever he did, I mean, maybe it's all genetics. I have no idea. But I'm like, that guy was so, he was 90 fucking eight when they filmed that.
He just turned 99, passed away, but my God, was he sharp until the end. Well-spoken, funny, interesting, articulate. Yeah. Yep. like i saw his daughter was like he'd had his a order repaired a couple times but he was it was he was too old this time or something they could yeah oh was it was it surgery that this is what i don't i don't know i just read that little quote like or maybe it was just that he couldn't have the surgery you know yeah i don't know
Cause I mean, that's, that's, that's when Rodney Dangerfield died. Like he went in for the surgery and didn't make it. Right. Yeah. So I, I don't know. I haven't, uh, I, the, you know, there was like the subscriber only like.
melzer thing that was written which i read but that that didn't mention anything about that i don't think and then i haven't if he did an audio i haven't seen it i don't honestly i don't i don't know the last time i've listened to any audio on on the observer site i just got out of it i don't know um i'll pop around yeah but i mean it is it's it's it's it hasn't changed there's great information then you get into
like the weeds you get into the weeds of Brian and Dave have some argument starts they have this argument because Dave is you know part android and he can't like you know, he just, he, there's, there's no, there's no irony. There's no room for, for, for, you know, uh, an analogy or metaphor. It's, it was, it was one of my favorite parts of the fucking.
uh, Blair steamboat rivals was, you know, that there's just like all these clips of the Chi town rumble and he's in the front row spazzing, like just jumping up and down. He's got his, he's got his book. He's like,
And it's like, there's a certain point maybe where, you know, Frank DeFord or whatever is like, if you're going to be a journalist, you know, you have to be in part like, so you can't react at the show because at this point him and his boys are in the front row going off, you know, like, like fucking. tuned up uh laughing that because like we would see him at those pwgs and he's just like sitting in the front just just emotionless well and the other part of that could could be that you know from
From 89 to 2013, when you've watched 400,000 matches, you just become numb. I don't know. Right. When you've entered this era...
that according to you is now the greatest era of six, seven, eight, nine star matches, but you're still sitting there just dead. Yeah. I will say, dude, it's kind of a bummer to me that because, you know, Like it or not, the Q and a with a, with a Meltzer Q and a is usually comes with some benefit, you know, it's always highly entertaining, but between them wanting like fucking.
70 bucks or whatever it is 70 80 bucks and it being like right up against one of the one of the women's one of the joshi shows it's like ah can't do it this time but can't do it this time Wish I could help you out. Can't do it, pal. Unless something drastically changes, which, you know, I never say never on mania week. You never say never mania week. I mean, you know, we, we might be high fiving with Dave in the sphere. You have no idea what's going to happen.
he's like uh he's like drew carey when he went to the sphere he's like texting out instead of like shouting down people who fucking talk shit on to him on twitter he's just like uh-huh It's like biting into a protein bar full of, you know, God, he's like, yeah, yeah. He's, he's, he's, he's tweeting at, you know, different, uh, Like he's tagging Manami Toyota. Just like, is this what it's like to come with a pussy? He goes complete true carry. Oh my God. Like that.
That fish concert broke Drew Carey's brain. Dude. Bob Barker would have been unceremoniously fired, but we're in a different time. We live in a different age. Where it's just like, meh. Anyway. It's the internet. Chinatown. Let's see the raw vault homework. On Netflix. Netflix. Now, $34 a month.
I mean, if wrestling wasn't on this thing, I would just be like, why am I subscribing to this shit? Here's the thing. I'm on the fucking top tier. I'm still getting ads during raw. I can fast forward through them. sure they're fucking there i'm like what i thought this is supposed to be fucking ad free for me at this point anyway let me tell you something buddy i'm on the lowest tier and i get ads and i can fast forward through them the fuck so what are we doing
Do you get ads on anything else? Like if you're just watching a movie on there? I don't know. I don't watch anything. You don't watch anything on there. Yeah. Couldn't tell you. Okay. I'm about to downgrade. I just realized I can get Disney and Paramount. through spectrum cable. And I'm like, I don't give a fuck. They're putting fucking Wolf of wall street on Disney plus dude. You better make sure the parental controls are on there. Jackie boy. That's a lot of fucks in that movie.
Henry Zebrowski or not, that's a lot of bucks. July 11th, 1994. Coming to you from Bushkill, Pennsylvania. Woo. Only big towns. Only the big towns. You know. We were doing money in the bank at SoFi, but this week we're at a, uh, a country club in Bushkill, Pennsylvania. Yikes. Tent show. I mean, dude. They might as well be at a basketball court at a high school. Which they were at this time as well. Yeah. We got a recap of the 1-2-3 kids journey.
We open up with Jim Ross and Macho Man Randy Savage. I guess Vince doesn't make it to Bushkill. I don't go to Pennsylvania. I'm not allowed to go to Pennsylvania ever since... James Snuka had an incident. The young lady. Dummy up. This match gets a star. Uh, this is the one, two, three kid versus Brett, the hit man heart for the WWF championship. And I really started racking my brain. Uh, obviously.
Sean Waltman versus Razor Ramon where he gets that upset win is one of the most important matches in history, one of the most memorable. But as far as between the bells... I think this might be Xbox best match ever. What? I don't know what I was sitting there trying to think of. I'm like, when did he ever have a better match? I mean, I, I can't say, but I feel like he must've had something on a pay-per-view at some point. I don't know, but maybe not. I don't know. Cause then especially.
I mean, it's a good match. I'm not saying it wasn't a good match. It feels like you hate this match. Because once he goes to WCW... Six. There's nothing going on. It's all the NWO gimmick. And then by the time he comes back for X-Pac, it's like... He's got that go-away heat. He's doing the Bronco Buster. I mean, any match with the Bronco Buster is not going to be a good match. What's the match?
He had a king of the ring with somebody that in the attitude era, um, maybe on the cusp, like, um, I wonder what you even get if you Google Sean Wallman's best match. Did I tell you I tore my asshole? Okay. Owen Hart. He had that Owen Hart match. I think that's the one I'm thinking of. Jess? Pulling up the first website that I get. TheSportster.com. Everybody's go-to source. He wrestled Rey Mysterio on Nitro in 97.
which I'm sure was great. The Razor Ramon match in 93. Jericho Halloween Havoc 96. I'd be interested to see that. Shane McMahon at WrestleMania 15. I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say no. Yes. Wow. He wrestled Ric Flair at Road Wild 97. There's no way that's any good. I mean, it's wonderful that he got to wrestle Ric Flair, but like Flair in 97, there's no fucking way. You don't think Flair was any good in 97? No, that was in the height of his confidence was shot.
flair in 97 with the fucking the the the mushroom haircut and his fucking you know bischoff's fucking fucking with his brain no way This looks like a hell of a match. Let's see. Versus D'Lo Brown in your house. I don't know. Possibly. Dean Malenko, Super Brawl 7. Okay, I'd be interested to watch him and Dean. Four-way match. This is too muddied. Jericho, Benoit, Guerrero, and X-Pac. I'm talking just a one-on-one match. Nothing against X-Pac.
But it's like, you put anybody in that slot, and it's going to be, you know, you could put Dwayne Gill. Dwayne Gill, Jericho, Guerrero, and Benoit. It's like, oh, that was a classic. You know what I mean? Sure. Oh, sure. Eddie Guerrero sold out 97. Number one versus Bret Hart, July 11th, 1994. That is right.
I did not even do that on purpose. I guess there's no such thing as subjective art form. Okay. Oh, this is interesting. According to the Google AI, X-Pac considers his match against Bret Hart. as the greatest of his career. Interesting. From the horse's mouth. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, this is... Absolutely phenomenal. I mean, I think Brett has had better matches, but Brett is always going to be Brett. Brett's obviously the X factor. I think Brett Hart had a lot of guys.
best matches of all time you know sure but um it was like clearly they they i don't know clearly they fed off of each other because i mean fucking like waltman was doing shit in this match i was like oh my god that was perfect like there were there was some some of those spinning the roundhouse kicks and like the drop kicks and then some of the dives i'm just like holy fucking shit i mean
But again, that's Brett being exactly where Brett's supposed to be. The other thing with this match is it's still modern wrestling in that it's mid-90s. It's still slam-bang, Western-style wrestling. So the believability is always going to be what it is. It's still pro-wrestling. My point is everything Brett does in this match has so much honesty, the struggle, like, like it really. As much as this type of presentation of wrestling can look like real fighting.
it's as real as it, as it, as it looks just the way that like Brett goes over the, like the, just the way he moves his body and he shifts his weight. It's like, Oh no, he really got thrown over that top rope or like he really fucking got clocked by that. fucking boot you know it's just unbelievable I mean like it needs to be said Bret Hart's fucking amazing but this match in particular I was just like god damn I said god damn
We get Anvil and Owen down there yelling at Brett. Reminds me of the current John Cena heel turn because Owen and Anvil hate Brett so much. but they still dress in the Bret Hart uniform. You know, they don't have any other gear. They have to dress this way. Black and pink. They don't have much like Pac. They don't have street clothes. Right. This is a great break spot to go to the commercial break. I mean, Brett covers one, two, three, kid. Kid gets his foot on the ropes.
Brett looks up, sees the foot on the ropes. Hebner, the referee, does not see it. Counts the one, two, three. And Bret Hart insists, insists, no, this match needs to continue. He had his foot on the rope. Hevner's like, well, I didn't see it. I can only call it what I see. And it takes Rhode Island's second favorite son after me, Tim White, to come down and go, oh, no, no, no. He had his foot on the rope. We need to reverse this decision.
That's great. It keeps it a babyface versus babyface match. As much as there was still subtle... I wouldn't say Brett was being a heel.
at any point in this match but there were there were a few subtle moments where because anytime you do baby face baby face and the championships on the line the champion becomes the de facto heel in the match you know right Um, Sean Waltman, obviously the underdog, but having this historic run, you know, this, this, this Cinderella story from out of nowhere, he gets his big title shot.
But there were one or two moments where Brett was being very aggressive, very vicious, you know, a kick to the bread basket where you're just like, oh, yeah, he's just a twinge of heel. What a great spot. What a great moment of, of having it like, oh, this is, this is, these, these are two athletes having a, this was the era of the baby face versus baby face match on raw.
Yes or no? True. Brett winds up winning the thing, but my God, what a match. We go to the SummerSlam report. What is this shirt that Todd is wearing? You get a fucking bowl of soup with that? Dude, it looks like a denim trash bag. And he's being extra hyper and extra hip. We're pushing the Taker versus Taker match at SummerSlam. This is such a shitty period for wrestling. It's incredible. For WWF, I should say. We got a Paul Bearer promo with Vaseline on the camera lens.
We go back to the ring for Crush versus Matt Hardy. LOL. Yes. Oh, my God. This weenie Matt Hardy. It's amazing. You know what it got me thinking of too is like Timeless Tony Storm. It really is like born out of the rib of a broken Matt Hardy. You know? Sure. And again, it's just like you think of, why did Matt Hardy just, like, it would be like if Tony Storm just was just like, okay, I'm just going to not do that gimmick anymore and just be a regular person, you know?
I think probably just shifting from company to company to company. He just, you know, I don't know how they handled it, but you know, it's not as if he was like on TV every week and then just showed back up having been changed without. you know but i mean that's that's that's you're probably right but i mean it is it's it there's something about this that really befuddles the rock because it's just the best gimmick of your career and you're just going to be like
What about brother Nero? A lot of standby matches after the, you know, you open up with the big title match. Sure. You don't know if it's going to go to full hour. Got to see if there's time. Razor Ramon versus Barry Horowitz. We go to a remote Kings Court where Jerry Lawler is in one of the offices of Ted DiBiase, probably located somewhere in Stanford.
I mean they picked the shittiest dumbest looking office for like it's just so funny Ted DiBiase trying to buy 10,000 shares of something I don't care how much it costs click He bought Nikolai Volkov. He bought The Undertaker. He bought Bam Bam Bigelow. Next, he's going to buy Sid Vicious. What? Yeah, we'll see. 1995 is looming. Yeah, it is. IRS versus Ray Hudson. It's the battle of the superstars, Vince. Wow. Ray Hudson. This is in a world of mullets. This is one of the most offensive.
doth i offend and that was the main event dude we got a brett hart promo where they have the siren playing the whole time which is just maddening it's raw dude uh brett really I can't imagine he enjoyed doing this, but he put over one, two, three kid like crazy in the promo. He even said, I got lucky winning that match. I'm like, who are you to doubt El Dandy?
And he's got his sights set on Owen. All right. So now we jump ahead. That's your last 1994 Monday Night Raw in the vault. January 9th, 1995. on Netflix. Netflix. The second anniversary show. They are at the Summit in Houston, Texas. Is that where we went? No. Is that place gone? uh i'm pretty sure it is houston when when when were we in houston uh you're right i'm thinking of when we were in san antonio i got confused yeah san antonio we were at
I think we went to the Alamo Dome. Right, right, right. And then in Dallas, we went to American Airlines. The summit's still there. But no, I've been to Houston. I've been to Houston twice with Pete. Yeah. On the ones and twos, oddly enough, Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels and Vince McMahon. This really feels like, for me at least, and we are jumping around years-wise.
this is the first time Vince looks old to me. Oh. You know, this, because up until this point, the rest of the time we've been seeing Vince, it's still, it's like, yeah, this is what he looked like in the 80s. This is what he looked like in the early 90s. This is the first time that he looks like, oh, this is that second phase of Vince McMahon or third phase if you want to include, you know, the early 80s announcer stuff.
He looks like Mr. McMahon at this point. It's coming. We hear from William Shatner via satellite. Jerry Lawler, leave me alone. We get Razor Ramon versus Owen Hart having a nice little match, and then they couldn't think of anything else better to do for no reason. Bret Hart just runs in and starts beating up Owen. So big DQ. Jeff Jarrett gets involved. And the road dog. The roadie. The roadie. Jeff Jarrett. He's got to back up his artist. We go to the Royal Rumble report.
Todd Pettengale wearing more ridiculous clothes. I mean, he just, he, he looking back now, it's just like, he dresses like a mom going to home goods. What a timestamp. This year is interesting, Vince. Not only does the winner get a title shot at WrestleMania 11, one of the best WrestleManias of all time, but the winner also gets Pamela Anderson. Cool. What? Is that legal? Hey. It's the new generation. This Royal Rumble sounds like absolute trash. I definitely do not.
ever recall watching this. Undertaker versus IRS. I mean, this is the height of who gives a fuck. You got a diesel promo about Bret Hart. It's funny watching Kevin Nash act like not Kevin Nash. He's talking like a wrestler. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We got a... Quick card promoting Hakushi making his debut next. We see a Jerry Lawler promo on William Shatner. And then we got Hakushi versus Matt Hardy. We like that.
You gotta love that. William Shatner is the guest on the King's Court. They go back and forth. They push Tech Wars. You gotta love that moment, too, where Jerry Law was like, I watched it. It's really, really good, but you suck. Lawler goes after Shatner. Shatner gives him a victory roll. Bret Hart gets involved. Jeff Jarrett gets involved. We go back to the ring. King Kong Bundy, who is a member of the Million Dollar Corporation versus Gary Sabaugh. Some late-era Bundy.
It's funny, late era Bundy just really doesn't, it does not compute for me. I mean, even Ted DiBiase, like the million dollar man at this point, it's just like... it's just they don't it's just eras bleeding into each other like like the million dollar man and and kevin nash don't yeah you know go together
Uh, we had a tag team promotional package. We get a comma Mustafa package. This is great. He mentions he was kicked out of different sports for being too rough. That's a Vince McMahon, all-time favorite. thing of just like how do we bring this guy in ah he did all other stuff and he's too rough and i was gonna do wrestling and now this is the main event this is the fucking main event of your second anniversary show
Yeah, it is. Harvey Whippleman with Well Done versus Howard Finkel with the Bushwhackers in a tuxedo match. Where the winner strips his opponent to his underwear out of his tuxedo. This is the fucking main event of your second anniversary show while you're on the... The road to your big pay-per-view, the Royal Rumble on the road to WrestleMania. This is such an embarrassing downtime for this company. It's wild. It's wild, dude.
I mean, this is wrestling for people who hate wrestling. It's like, oh, it wasn't that you stopped watching because you were growing up. It just started to suck. Right. Yeah. It's like they forced you out. Closes with a Jerry Lawler promo. Jeff Jarrett promo. I mean, it's so weak. They have such little faith in their wrestling that they're pulling out. Shatner, Pam Anderson, Jennifer McCarthy is going to show up at that mania. Vaccinated or not.
I mean, is 11, is this the one where it's Bam Bam versus Lawrence Taylor? That sounds right. Like that's how little faith they had in the wrestling at this point with air quotes, the greatest of all time, Shawn Michaels in the main event. Oh, well, there's your raw vault homework. Vince, who's your favorite wrestler? Man, I got to go with Bill Mercer, wrestler or not. Wow. Interesting choice. Mercer's the man, dude. Come on, him and the free birds.
Oh, forget it. Who's your favorite wrestler? I mean, my favorite is going to be Ricky Steamboat because for whatever reason, I'm on that... that title match, which has to be the rebranding of RF video. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That anytime I open YouTube, that's the first thing that comes up is just chopped up clips from that steamboat shoot. And so I've been watching that.
You know, making lunches, doing dishes. It's weird. That shoot, I don't know what year it is. Seems like it's 90s. Late 90s. Oh, okay. Because he seems... almost like he's less friendly than he will become like outside of the ring you know he seems like he's got a little edge to him yeah um that like he he loses like in a couple of years or something when you start to see him again but he definitely feels like he's like ah fuck it's it's it's actually over and now what the fuck am i gonna do
or just like yeah i mean it also might just be like his first experience doing a shoot interview where he doesn't want to be like you know he has to keep his guard even though he's he's not holding anything back he's just oh you mean the friendliness with the interviewer just like yeah just his like his friendliness you know so i was taking it more like which which which i came off to me is there's still like
there's people he clearly likes. And then there's people he's like, you know, when he's talking about like Rick root, he's like, you know, if it was Rick's idea, we were going to have to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, shit. Ah, shit. Where can the kids find you online? At Vince Averill on Twitter, Vince.Averill on Instagram. This is your old pal Matt McCarthy saying follow me on all forms of social media at McCarthy Redhead if you want to join the Video Garage Patreon.
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