For this week's episode, we go over the news of the week, and then follow up with a deep-dive on the mysterious Zulema Pastenes! Who is she? What is her backstory? How is she potentially involved? Robin spent 2 hours on the phone with Zulema Pastenes' ex-boss from her time as a professional life coach. Our Patreon Patrons will get the exclusive details in the new Afterthoughts episode on how Chad Daybell may not be the first cult that Zulema has experience with... -------------------------------...
Jul 24, 2020•55 min
The Junko Furuta case is one of the most horrific in true crime history. It involves a 17yo Japanese school girl who was abducted and imprisoned by 4 teenage boys, who committed unfathomable acts of cruelty and violence against her. This is one of the most requested cases we receive, and we truly hope we did it justice. It is a very difficult case to discuss. Disclaimer: It is GRAPHIC. We will return with Lori Vallow news and updates next week, continuing our deep-dive into the cast of character...
Jul 19, 2020•46 min
As promised, we are continuing our introductory series on the case by doing an overview of Chad Daybell. How did he and Tammy meet? What did he do other than writing? How did he become a famous LDS end of days author? We will take a biographical look at his life up to 2019. Coming up later this week, we will tackle the heinous case of Junko Furuta. --------------------------------------------- We would like to thank our Executive Producers: Ashley M Christy K Ian M Cristi R Ashley B Faye S Amy S...
Jul 14, 2020•43 min
It's a VERY slow news week, guys! We are just waiting on all 1700 pages of that custody dispute to drop. We decided to pick some small pieces that happened this week and touch on them. We discuss Nancy Grace's interview with Taylor Lawson, the divorce attorney who Charles Vallow went to for help when Lori Vallow started threatening his life. We talk about the suspicious death of Lori's own attorney, and then some other little items. We also posted a video with rare footage of Chad Daybell speaki...
Jul 10, 2020•38 min
For this episode, we discuss the horrific case of Vanessa Guillen, the missing Fort Hood soldier whose remains were found last week. A grieving family and a girl who had hopes and life dreams snuffed out too soon by a fellow soldier. This one hit us extra hard, guys. ----------------------------------------------- We would like to thank our Executive Producers: Ashley M Christy K Cristi R Ashley B Faye S Amy S Iris-Dora S Kathleen H LeeAnn M Shawna S Ylana M Tamara R ...as well as all of our oth...
Jul 07, 2020•41 min
Many of you have requested an introductory series on the Lori Vallow case, so we are doing it! This first episode will be the shortest one. It covers Lori's family up to her marriage to Charles Vallow. Next episode, we will cover Lori threatening to kill Charles, his death at the hand of Alex Cox, the aftermath, and everything in between. --------------------------------------------- We would like to thank our Executive Producers: Ashley M Christy K Cristi R Ashley B Faye S Amy S Ian M Iris-Dora...
Jul 03, 2020•27 min
For this episode, we discuss the UPGRADED CHARGES that hit both Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell this week, as well as the court appearance Lori made to hear said new charges. We also discuss the HIDEOUS custody battle between Melani Pawlowski and Brandon Boudreaux, with allegations of...Brandon being Hitler's BFF in a past life? (Whaaaaaaat???!) Pardon the Cockatoo screaming in the background, everyone! It's the joys of quarantine! ------------------------------------------ Episode Notes We want to...
Jul 01, 2020•44 min
We have to give a major "THANK YOU!" to HBO for sending us the screener for the first 3 episodes of I'LL BE GONE IN THE DARK. It was truly our privilege to watch, review, and share with our followers. Michelle McNamara is a hero of ours. -------------------------------------------------------- I'LL BE GONE IN THE DARK, based on the book of the same name by Michelle McNamara, explores her investigation into the dark world of this violent predator she dubbed "The Golden State Killer." The series, ...
Jun 30, 2020•40 min
For this episode, Robin and Jaci start out by discussing the NBC Dateline episode that just aired on Monday! Did we learn anything new about the case from Melanie Gibb or Lori's other friends? Did they suspect anything was wrong? We then move on to the Affidavit of Probable Cause that put Chad Daybell behind bars. Did Alex Cox kill the children? What do we know about his movements via the FBI CAST Unit? We break down the document. Finally...why did Chad Daybell consider Oprah Winfrey to be the d...
Jun 23, 2020•1 hr 9 min
For this episode, we discuss everything that has transpired over the last week, including East Idaho News interviews, tributes to the children, legal filings and everything in between. The remains of JJ Vallow & Tylee Ryan have been found. Chad Daybell has been arrested. Lori Vallow is in jail. What next? Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
Jun 18, 2020•47 min
In this episode, we discuss the horrendous events that have been unfolding over the last 72 hours. Chad Daybell's home was raided by police and a search warrant was executed. Unfortunately, the remains of both Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow have been found. Chad Daybell, like Lori Vallow, has been arrested and is now in jail. **Note- Apologies for the parrots making noise in the beginning. Quarantine = rough! What happened? What is going to happen next? We will discuss current events and theories. Bec...
Jun 12, 2020•43 min
We just had to record a quick update to discuss today's breaking news concerning the Lori Vallow case. Human remains have been found at Chad Daybell's property in Salem, Idaho. He has been arrested and taken into custody. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
Jun 09, 2020•10 min
Robin and Amanda discuss the third and final piece of Melanie Gibb's interview with Nate Eaton of East Idaho News. If given an opportunity, what would she say to Lori? What would she say to Chad? Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support .
Jun 01, 2020•1 hr 5 min
For this episode, we break down and analyze Part 2 of Melanie Gibb's interview with East Idaho News! Melanie Gibb, the woman of the hour, finally breaks her silence! She joined Nate Eaton of East Idaho News for a groundbreaking interview. Does she know what happened to Tylee and JJ? Exactly WHAT did Chad and Lori believe in? Was Chad the mastermind? Melanie's interview is split up into three separate segments, with part 1 having been released on 5/26. Our next show, covering Part 3, will be rele...
May 29, 2020•52 min
Melanie Gibb, the woman of the hour, finally breaks her silence! She joined Nate Eaton of East Idaho News for a groundbreaking interview. Does she know what happened to Tylee and JJ? Exactly WHAT did Chad and Lori believe in? Was Chad the mastermind? Melanie's interview is split up into three separate segments, with part 1 having been released on 5/26. Part II will air on 5/27, and Part 3 will follow on 5/28. Our next show will be released Friday, 5/29. For this episode, we break down and analyz...
May 27, 2020•1 hr 17 min
This is the third part in a multi-episode series on Joseph James DeAngelo, a man who is known by many names: The Original Night Stalker. The East Area Rapist. The Visalia Ransacker. The Golden State Killer. Suspected of 200+ burglaries, 12 murders, and at least 51 rapes on a spree in California that lasted over a decade, we will break down the man and his crimes. This episode will cover the Visalia Rasacker series of crimes, where Joseph James DeAngelo burglarized over 125 homes and stalked coun...
May 22, 2020•58 min
Just when we thought it was safe to go back into the water, Lori Vallow news drops on top of us. This episode, Robin and Amanda discuss Saturday's 48 Hours episode, the newly-produced police chest-cam footage showing a worried Charles Vallow, and other random case happenings. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
May 20, 2020•46 min
For this episode, there are two segments. First, we discuss Parts 2 and 3 of Nate Eaton's interview with Melani and Ian Pawlowski. Next, we air our conversion with an autopsy technician! She was kind enough to let us pepper her with questions about the autopsy. What stood out in the report? Was it standard operating procedure? Should additional tests have been run? What does she think happened? Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-pod...
May 15, 2020•1 hr 40 min
Join Robin and Amanda as they discuss Alex Cox's autopsy results, as well as the newest round of interviews that Melani and Ian have been making...this time, a 3-part series with Nate Eaton of East Idaho News. This show will cover Part 1 of the series. Wednesday, we will have an autopsy technician on to go into greater details and also cover possibilities in Alex Cox's autopsy results. Like you, our burning question is, "Could something have slipped by, undetected?" We will discuss Parts 2 &...
May 12, 2020•39 min
Another huge week in the Lori Vallow case! Join Amanda and (a very sick) Robin as we discuss the week's updates in the Lori Vallow case! For Part I, we discuss the media rounds that Ian and Melani Pawlowski have been making, as well as Janis Cox and Summer Shiftlet's TV appearances. We also cover random tidbits of relevant news. For Part 2, we will discuss Alex Cox's autopsy results, as well as the newest round of interviews that Melani and Ian have been making...this time, a 3-part series with ...
May 11, 2020•1 hr 3 min
Holy Lori Vallow updates, Batman! There are so many that we had to split it into two episodes! For Part II, we follow up with standout elements of last week's NBC Dateline special, additional legal documents, as well as various other current pieces of interest! If you haven't, don't forget to check out our new series on the East Area Rapist! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
May 05, 2020•42 min
Holy Lori Vallow updates, Batman! There are so many that we had to split it into two episodes! For Part I, we discuss the bond reduction hearing, multiple affidavits, Mark Means' utter failure at lawyering, Melani Pawlowski's background, as well as Chad Daybell's absolutely INSANE email to Lori where he assigns Tylee Ryan, JJ Vallow and the rest of Lori's family light or dark spirits. Part II will be released tomorrow, and will follow up with an analysis of last week's NBC Dateline special, addi...
May 04, 2020•50 min
This is the second part in a multi-episode series on Joseph James DeAngelo, a man who is known by many names: The Original Night Stalker. The East Area Rapist. The Visalia Ransacker. The Golden State Killer. Suspected of 200+ burglaries, 12 murders, and at least 51 rapes on a spree in California that lasted over a decade, we will break down the man and his crimes. This episode will cover the earliest known or potentially-linked crimes of Joseph James DAngelo. These include series from: The Exete...
May 01, 2020•53 min
Amanda and Robin give the most recent update on the incredulous Lori Vallow case. Who secretly added a password to Charles Vallow's Life Insurance Policy account? Why are there 5 million subpoenas this week? Join us and find out! Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
Apr 23, 2020•27 min
This is the first part in a multi-episode series on Joseph James DeAngelo, a man who is known by many names: The Original Night Stalker. The East Area Rapist. The Visalia Ransacker. The Golden State Killer. Suspected of 200+ burglaries, 12 murders, and at least 51 rapes on a spree in California that lasted over a decade, we will break down the man and his crimes. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
Apr 22, 2020•48 min
For this episode, we go over the most recent updates from the case. Lori and Chad are being investigated for murder! Is Lori getting out of jail due to Coronavirus concerns? Why did the state Attorney General take authority over the case? Who is Gabe Bonilla and what does he have to do with anything? Also, are we going to cover Carol Baskin and Tiger King? Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support ....
Apr 15, 2020•51 min
For this episode, we are once again joined by a special guest! Ian Murphy is a writer, broadcaster, and longtime member of the LDS Church. For this episode, we start off with current updates on the case, and then discuss random case topics as they relate to Mormon theology. Was Tylee married off to another expression? How patriarchal is the Mormon Church? What is the Church's policy on homosexuality? As non-Mormons, we wanted to bring on someone who could help answer questions and confront misco...
Apr 08, 2020•1 hr 31 min
For this episode, we are joined by a special guest! Ian Murphy is a writer, broadcaster, and longtime member of the LDS Church. For this episode, we start off with current updates on the case, and then analyze the 7 Missions to Accomplish Together email that Chad Daybell sent Lori Vallow, as well as Ian Pawlowski's alleged hidden outline of the group's beliefs. As non-Mormons, we wanted to bring on someone who could help us separate fact from fiction and confront misconceptions surrounding the r...
Apr 03, 2020•1 hr 29 min
For this episode, Robin and Jaci tackle the Papin sisters! This case has lesbian incest, a horrifically gruesome murder, and French tabloid sensationalism. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-a-true-crime-podcast--4433638/support .
Mar 27, 2020•36 min
It never fails! Every single time we record, breaking news in the Lori Vallow case happens as soon as we press Record. We give a quick update on breaking news in the Vallow case, and then move on to two new cases! Amanda tells the devastating story of the Cook Brothers from Toledo, OH, and how one of them may be living near you right this moment...and then Robin tells a local tale about Portland, OR serial killer/cannibal Richard Marquette. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreake...
Mar 26, 2020•44 min
