Writing an essay about Showgirls for my Patreon this month. I'm like, so, now I'm just a titty brained and uh yeah, you know how it is. So we're gonna try to pull it out. We're gonna try to pull it out of the bag. We're gonna think about my actual job. That's what's up, man, She's thinking about knobs and cum jokes. What can I say?
Yeah? Yeah, the greatest stripper ever, the Lebron James is so true. When this woman strips, she like nothing. There's nothing else in history can compare it to seeing this woman take her clothes off and you know, good for her.
It's true. Yeah, It's like, I think the conceit of Showgirls that you have to you have to become comfortable with is you just have to accept that, know me is the hottest woman on the planet. You just need to like there is you can't look, there's.
No you can't be influenced by the fact that you saw her unsaved by the bell three morning for like seven years now, and you can't, you know, mix that up with the weird feelings you have because you're like, wait a minute, I was a Tiffany Amber. I was Tiffany Amberthees, and then Lark Vorhees and then Jesse. No offense to Jesse. Wow, my ranking as a kid owned.
This is a great offense to tall girls everywhere. But also I think that's the standard ranking.
You know, listen, it wasn't.
Well look, I had to tell you. It's interesting because in nineteen ninety five, beauty standards are really different. So for example, like you know, shout out to my girl Elizabeth Berkley Loren. She married one of the Lorentz family, so you know, but like she just really doesn't have an ass.
No, you weren't allowed back then, but you weren't allowed to It's true if you had an ass, if a woman had an ass, they would.
Yeah, they would they you would go to jail.
You Like, it is so funny that like that, like big asses were not like a like a uh conventional attractive thing like in in like the broader concept of like cultural history until like a lot really.
It's really is like, yeah, it's truly truly, Seattle really did a solid for everyone on that.
A thing, a thing where a lot of people were like, wait a minute, I really do like an ass a big ass. Wait a minute, why are there no big asses anywhere?
Wait? Okay, so there is one really good ass in Showgirls, you know because of my my extensive viewing of this, and that ass belongs to Rina Riffle, who plays the the stripper whose name is Penny, who James eventually knocks up, and Penny has an incredible ass and fun fact, Rina Riffle was in both the show Girls and strip teas in nineteen ninety five. Big year for Rena Riffle.
Good for her.
Yeah, yeah, that's how good that ass was. That's how good that ass was.
Somebody didn't like that. That was the coming out party for the ass that. You know. Another thing we can think.
A lot of shots are framed just to get Rina riffles ass in that.
Yeah, and another thing we could thank Paul Verhoven for.
You know what, It's such a good movie. Dog Like, I'll be thinking about it all the time, so.
I know, I know you do love it. I gotta yeah, it's been a long time since I've seen it.
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that there's anything wrong with that either, but you know, it's just.
I mean, it just didn't it didn't appeal to me the same way that the other Verehoven did in my mind. I mean, don't get me wrong, I was like, damn, these are so nice titties and all that, but you know, it just didn't it didn't speak to my myopic male child brain the way that you know, big blow up, violence, explosion or yeah, cop, did.
You know that's the thing. I think that you were too free of the form of americanness that Paul Verhobbn was expressly attempting to critique with Show Girls.
I would argue, well, yeah at the time, because I was just like, hey, titties, that's nice.
Yeah, nice, nice?
Cool?
Hey what what hey?
Hey wait a minute, this is confused, Like yeah, I mean like, yeah.
I know it's a confusing movie. What it's all that? But do you like them?
Why? Why did Like it's like just like wait a minute, what are they talking? Like? Why do they keep talking about?
What? Oh?
Yeah, that's what watching that is like. A twelve year old was like, wait, no.
That's what watching that is like. That's what watching that is like. And that's the point of it. I you know, I argue, but you know what, it's a really good for hobe that I rewatched recently is total recall. Oh yeah, fucking whips. I like how there's the chick with the three titties.
I like the exploding heads.
It's I got a question.
The stomach guy, whatever his name is, I forget.
Now, where do you come down on in terms of Total Recall? Do you think that he actually went to Mars or do you think that it is the package he paid for? Uh? Because I think that he that it's all in his head and Blair thinks that it's real, and I think that that's.
Just what I've always I've always thought it was. I think I've always thought it was real, but just because that's how you know it's presented, And like when I was younger, I didn't think about it. I mean, no, I can see I could see it being a thing in his head, and I could see that, and I mean I could see that being like an interesting part of the critique too, like on top of everything else. So I could definitely see that. I guess I don't.
I guess it's not one to me because like I liked Total Recall, but like that wasn't like that wasn't one of the eighties movies.
That like absolutely that was really cool.
Grabbed me, mostly because I didn't see it until I was like a little bit older. Yeah, for sure, Like, yeah, I was one of those Oh no, I remember. I didn't like it at first because they would show it on TV and it made no goddamn sense, like all the yeah everything, and like it was just like and I'm like, what the fuck is like what does this mean?
And then it's like an older you know, I watched it and I was like, oh, okay, cool, Oh I get it, like I see what you're doing here, but like, yeah, it didn't it didn't really work well on TVs.
I think the first one that I saw was actually show Girls, because it's like we didn't I didn't see a RoboCop until I was a lot older, and I think I I think I saw show Girls before I saw Starship Troopers, but I can't be certain of the order. I might have seen Starship Troopers first.
I'm not sure I saw RoboCop first.
Yeah, hell yeah.
Yeah. That was one of those things where my dad was like, oh, yeah, you can watch that. That's fine, your eight whatever.
Watching watch that guy get shot in the dick.
Watch the guy get shot in the in the dick. Watch like, uh, do get pulled. What the fuck is his name? Read? Uh the dad from that seventies show.
Fuck?
Oh yeah, bad guy. Uh yeah, like watching that guy just get torn up. It's just fantastic, folks, It's great. Yeah, and then Starship Troopers and then Total Recall, and then it was like, oh, okay.
I saw I haven't seen Basic Instinct. I probably should.
Oh you would like I think you would like Basic Instinct. It's uh, it's like, yeah, that was one of those where I watched it and I was like, oh, this is like sexual politics thing. Yeah, I'm tuning out for.
All Yeah yeah fourteen like you know, oh yeah, like damn much to ponder.
Much consider anyway? Uh about Sharon Stone's uh bodacious Tatars.
Yeah, that's right, that's so true.
It's like a lot I think that. I think that's what people would have said back then.
They should anyway we could, we should bring back saying bodacious tatars.
Just getting beaten, beaten with pipes in the street, like kick god, what is wrong?
Welcome back to her not so different show about bodacious tatars. About have always beenous.
About giant bodacious tatars throughout history? You know who had the biggest tits in the medieval era we today, we debate for forty five minutes.
Well, I guess that was a really sad thing, is that they don't like big.
They don't know they were, Like where's the demure noble.
Sauceless sauceless era, you know, and like, hey, shout out to the small tits too. We love to see them all. Okay, equal opportunity. But I don't know, we got to call them something other than bardaceous. I think bordacious, does not.
You know what, they're all ladies. They're all bodacious to me.
That's and that's called feminist.
As an ally as as a feminist, I can say they're all They're all. They're allus in my heart, I'm very brave.
Hashtag ally hashtags.
Ally hashtag sex positive, hashtag me hashtag I'm I'm a good boy. Oh god, Okay. One of those things is like, yeah, I'm not. I'm definitely not making any common it's about that. That's uh, yeah, that's gonna that's gonna be all you. I'm not on the individual bodaciousness.
Of Yeah, I mean, ladies and gentle days if you want, you know. Comments on titties write and say eleanor what about this? You know what I'm probably gonna say, thanks, thanks, great great child.
What are you doing? I'm just sending nudes to my favorite pocket Like wait what like damn?
That's sweet? Right, that's yeah, thanks for thinking of us. That's good. I gotta stop watching.
Ask ask guy coming in like, whoa, that's great. Have you guys get any pictures of them from the back? Yeah? Yeah? Oh man, all right, well that's the and caboose ass slash Paul Verhoven chat.
Yeah.
I guess we should talk about other things.
Yeah, let's do our job. I guess all right.
Here Yeah, hello, welcome back to We're Not So Different, a podcast about how asses have always been underrated. My name is Luke and I'm an amateurish medievalist, and as always i'm joined dactor eleanor Yanniga who is anything. But
today we are talking more about on de Luce. But before we get there, we get a couple questions first from our patron, Alie Cant, who says, so, what exactly are the differences between a count, a viscount, an earl, and a mark a marquess in similar nobleman roles with funny names.
Okay, So I can tell you from the English point of view that here's how it goes. So the number, the biggest one is duke, okay, okay, So duke is most important and duke you know, this like comes back from this is like a Norman thing because William the Conqueror was the Duke of Normandy, right, But they don't start doing dukedoms in England until the fourteenth century. But the dukedoms can be conferred on you, like that's a
thing that you certainly can do. But ordinarily what happens with dukedoms is that's what's given to you if you are like a prince of royal blood when you get majority, right, So it's like if you're the third prince or whatever, you're not going to get to be the king, so you end up being a duke. Right underneath that is marquess,
which is fun So that is also Norman. It comes from the term marchio and it's like that is people who were very specifically in the marches, so like the Marches of Wales and things like that, So you know, like basically the people that they had on the edges to like watch the Welsh marches or to watch the Scottish marches, so that's that's where it comes from. Then you get your earls, okay, which is interesting to me because I thought that earls were going to be higher
than Marquis's but shows what I know. I guess that I'm just more used to seeing earls, and it's because earl is a really old name here, because we get that from the Danish, right, because that was yarl and they they are like the people who kind of like administer particular provinces for the kings, right, So that that's what you get. Next, Then you get your viscount okay,
your viscountscount, yeah, exactly. And interestingly it was first introduced in the Hre in the tenth century and it was a vice kommes, right, so it's like basically like underneath
the account or something like that. So like, but we don't apparently have counts here in England, so I think that basically counts are the equivalent of earls on the count net but on the continent, but they don't have earls because they weren't taken over by the Danish, right, So you have a count and said and then you have a viscount, right, and so we have these from
like the one hundred Years War mm hm. And so that is a it's an attempt to consolidate French names into like the English one because they're like, oh, yeah, well we're going to rule Frants, then we're gonna have to have a way to amalgamate all these guys, right.
Fun fact, Earl famously became a name. Another fun fact. Every time I see Marquis, I want to say Marquise, but yeah, it did became a name. You throw a knee on the end of that bad boy, and it's Marquise, you know. And of course count became a name, Count Dooku.
That's right, Yeah, yeah, that was shit.
Is better than a joke about burgers being hamburger chefs. I love that they didn't have hamburgers back then. God damn it. They weren't civilized like us.
No, that's a way that they had to wait around for Mongols to invents grinding meat.
So yeah, yeah, and then for the Americans to perfect it, because you can't allow for such a thing. No yeah, wait, hold on, oh I'm sorry, go ahead, got one.
More under viscount you get Baron I forgot about Baron.
Yeah, another name.
My friends in high school had a Springer Spaniel named Baron, so to me, it is always a dog. And like we have the most barons around the shop. There's tons of fucking barons left. There's like four hundred barons, which so it's like pretty common. Uh you know, it's like as common as a noble could be, I suppose, So yeah, you know, basically they are like it essentially meant that you held land, so it's like, you know whatever. So yeah, then then and then you got just like your serves
and esquires and ship below that. It's not that interesting, but yeah, that's so that's everybody.
Yeah, yeah mech then squire was the title of nobility, not the title that you get. Called me your an attorney and nothing else. Uh yeah, Ollie, thank you very much for the question. Uh. Next, we got one from cat Solis, who says, question about medieval executions generally, were there any factors that determine the weapons used for beheadings
other than the executioner's preference. Thinking about Margaret Pole's hack job sorry via acts versus Ambolin's French swordsman executioner, I saw some Wolfall talk online about English beheadings traditionally involving an axe and block, while the French just had the person kneel, but no sources, so I'm curious.
Yeah, I mean the major way that people got executed was hanging rather a lot of hanging around the joint.
But as you kind of move up in society, you get more of the beheadings because they're faster, right, and oftentimes for nobles and people like that, they want to have it be a little bit less of a spectacle, like enough of a spectacle where some people are allowed in, but they don't want like the baying mobs of hundreds of people coming in to watch nobles getting killed, because it's just all a bit unseemly, you know, Anablin gets the French swordsman because they're like trying to be nice,
you know, because Henry he's such a nice guy.
So we're always saying that, yeah.
Yeah, completely absolutely, And then like I think that it does tend to be more common that English people do use a block, yes, but I don't really know that much more about Like I know more about English executions just because of where I live than I do about French ones. I do know that we get rather a lot of axes in the Holy Roman Empire, and but that tends to kind of like be I think.
That they're generally kneeling.
Yeah, yeah, but then sometimes there's no real rhyme or reason to it. But there's also just a lot of hanging around the shop like more common people. It's hanging. So that's how we we tend to know about it.
But yeah, it's it's all pretty grim. Hilariously, I was just chatting to a friend of mine and she's she's another public historian and she works on amble In and apparently she was at a history festival last year and there was this man in the crowd who like came to argue with her about that, like, well, what was Henry the supposed to do?
He was like, I mean what was he supposed to do? Not? Fuck? Is not fucking a woman? I didn't want to fuck him unless she was married? I mean, what what?
What do you not kill her?
Oh? You're you're applying you're applying these modern standards to a medieval man who didn't know anything about it. Well, like, there was some large coalition of groups of people across the continent who were like, no, Henry, don't do this. Yeah, right, come on there, sure, yeah, And I'm supposed to believe and I'm supposed to believe that people care when a woman died in the early modern period.
Sure, yeah, anyway that makes me laugh.
Yeah, I did have a non uh stupid question. Well, at least from my perspective. I mean, I realized that that hanging does take a bit and you got to kick and stuff. But I'm also led to believe that having your fucking head chopped off, uh, is not something that can usually be accomplished in a single swing odd circumstances are by very strong people with a very large blade. Because one of the things I've found out from reading about actual executions like this is that even the best
of these guys were like two to three swing minimum. Like, there's a lot of shit you got to get through in the human neck to get it off.
It's not, yeah, it's not. It isn't kind of like a one and done deal, which is which was why they have this like special swordsman Bramble and right. You know, it's the equivalent of like having a really good second if you you know, shame yourself in front of your domaio.
Right, yeah, yeah, it's part in uh got part in the Showgun where they where they're talking about the time where young.
Like you guy getting the eight year olds of eight year old to.
Like to chop your head off because he defeated you in battle or whatever, and in the memory of it he does it in one swoop. But then when they're talking about it much later, he like, what did I have to hit him like twelve fucking times to get his head off?
Like you idiot? Like who would ask you?
Who would ask a twelve year old to do this? You moron? You ube? Yeah yeah yeah. Medieval executions actually executions of any era.
Not not great main Yah, yeah, it's to be honest.
Uh.
The guillotine was a huge step forward.
Yeah, people people make a big deal about it now, huge step forward. Uh. But yeah, basically, if you're going to execute people for like actual reasons, like you know, revolutionary justice type stuff, just make it swift, no torture. Don't people like this for the love? Oh yeah, you know.
People, people make a big people make a big deal about the guillotine now because they're like, oh, rich people got killed and that's what it's about.
You know, hey, how yeah, when it's actually when it's actually an ingenious use of human engineering. This, it really is was really intended to solve a lot of problems and you know, just happened dead for an unintended reason, kind of like the cotton gin Eli Whitney Woo. Nobody's gonna need slaves after.
I invent this?
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And you're gonna be like, well, I mean that was that. That was definitely like a fun story, but really that was it. Huh okay, cool, So it really was like, oh they showed me an ankle. Yeah, you know, folks, it was a different time. It was a different, different time. But regardless, we will take you back to the different time and uh the ravings of a guy uh watching
the world end uh during the Black Deaths. So yeah, he's just like us for real, for real anyway, Yeah, subscribe to that patroon dot com slash w nsd pod five bucks a month. You guys know the deal. Anyway, as much as we would like to avoid defining all Ontolus by its relationship to the rest of so called Christian Europe, it becomes far more difficult as time moves on,
especially since we all know eventually where this leads. Indeed, from the outset in seven eleven until about ten sixty three, there was nothing that could be remotely considered a united
Christian response to the Muslim presence in Iberia. To be sure, leaders who happened to be Christians conquered parts of northern and northeastern Spain and northern Portugal, carving out their own lands and kingdoms, but aside from being Catholic Christians, they shared little in the way of common culture or even love for one another. Herona, Barcelona, leon Oporto, and Zamora were all taken by Christian rulers before the end of the ninth century, but that's where it stopped. For nearly
two hundred years. The kingdoms of Leon, castill, Navarre, and Arrogant, as well as the County of Barcelona all formed, but they fought with each other just as often, if not more so, than they with the Muslims to their south. Even through the early eleventh century, when the Umid state of Cordoba completely unraveled and broke into more than twenty competing typhus or independent Iberian Muslim states, there was no concerted effort to push Islam out of Iberia, and they
weren't able to extend their holdings further. But all that began to change in ten sixty three as Pope Alexander the Second had a wild and crazy idea. What if the secular military leadership of Christian Europe, meaning Western Europe in this case, called their levies to form a multinational Catholic coalition to go in eject Muslims from the land and then occupy it so it could be brought back into the loving bosom of Christendom. And what if follow
me here? All warriors were given a plenary indulgence, granting them remissions of remission of sins if they participated a teaching formalized within a decade by Bishop Anselm of Luca. In ten sixty three, Alexander the Second did just that, unofficially, preaching a limited war to remove the Muslims from their rule in the city of Barbastro, which he referred to
as quote a Christian emergency end quote. It was not a true crusade, at least not by the standard set three decades later that would be employed for another four hundred years thereafter, but it was a direct precursor to those later. It be seen as a dry run for the wider crusading practice, a proof of concept for the popes that it could work. But that was all hindsight.
When a mixed force composed of Normans under William of Aquitaine, alongside Ragonese and Catalan soldiers besieged Barbastro in ten sixty
three and took it less than a year later. They had no idea the horrifying precedent they were setting, though in something of an ironic joke, the siege and capture of Barbastro would be a brief Christian victory that was reversed in short order by ten sixty five Muslim forces from the Taipha of Zaragoza, along with a contingent at five hundred Savillan Christian cavalry, successfully reclaimed to Barbastro, leaving Christian forces in disarray and great enmity between the Spanish
forces and the Franks for what was deemed quote Norman barbarity, much like the real Crusades would inspired later More importantly to this series, however, the Siege of Barbastro was the first real United attempt by something that vaguely can be called Christendom to eject Muslims and Islam from the Iberian Peninsula.
It was not the nationalist notion of a reconquest with all the fascist baggage that entails, but Christian opposition to Iberian Muslims was fomenting into a real cohesive project at the time, and that's going to be an existential problem
for the leaders of all Idolus going forward. So ye, as we said part three of our series on all Ondoluce, and today we're talking about how these disparate, feuding statelets began to coalesce into a force that would one day fully eject Muslim rule from the Iberian Peninsula, especially the end of the Umid state of Cordoba and the Typhi period. However, we don't want to fully focus on Christianity this time, especially since it's going to be such a big, big
problem next time when we close this out. So we're also going to talk about some of the lasting cultural and cultural, spiritual, political, and scientific legacies of the peoples of al Andolous during the time of Muslim rule. There's a whole golden age specifically associated with al Andolous after all, and we can't forget that. Also, we got to talk about el Seed. You know, he's there. We can't we can't forget about.
That's our boy though, about Seed.
Oh yeah, Eleanor. We talked last time about how we don't subscribe to the Christian nationalist idea of a reconquista, but that certainly seems to start changing in the eleventh century. How are we to delineate between the ahistorical fascist narrative and the actual events that happened.
Yeah, I think that this is one of the real times when actually looking at the history shows you that the history with the big age that people tell you isn't real, right, because all you have to do is look at how these various kingdoms relate to each other and how they make varying alliances whose lands they're taking. And you know you've already touched on this point. But the Christian kingdoms of the Iberian Peninsula spend just as much time at each other's throats as they do fighting
with anybody who is Muslim. And this isn't to say that they don't fight people who are Muslim. And it isn't to say also that when they do fight people who are Muslim, they aren't going. Yeah, like, this one's from my boy jac shout out to God. He's definitely going to help us win this one. But we have careers like you know of our boil Seed that show us that you know, this idea that there is a fundamental disconnect between Muslims and Christians and that they are
always at each other's throats. Like that's thoroughly modern. You have people who are just soldiers of fortune who move back and forth all the time. It's completely possible for you to be a client of a Muslim ruler when you are a noble who is Christian and vice versa.
You know, there are all different ways of doing this on the peninsula, and they end up just being a kind of more interesting bunch of smaller kingdoms than what is going on in the rest of euro because it's just like the rest of Europ where everyone's kicking each other's teeth in all the fucking time, right, you know, Like it's it's possible to see various parts of the Holy Roman Empire at each other's throats and like going for each other, you know, Dear God, Like you know,
England is constantly having, you know, an anarchy or something like that and fighting each other, and it's the same thing that's happening down on the Iberian Peninsula. But you can have this veneer on top of it, right. I suppose what it ends up doing, interestingly, is it ends up getting people from outside the area more involved the people inside, and people outside the area are like, oh yeah, this is just like a crusade, and everyone like from Barcelona's like, what, no, it's not.
The Aragonese told us, we like, we needed to do this so they wouldn't try to take the border territories between us and you know whatever, and they were like yeah, and then and then it was real. They were like wait, why like wait, why are these Normans doing this? Why are they killing everyone like this? Why are they not really making distinctions between like the Muslims there and anyone else? Oh god, why are you doing that?
You know?
And I'm not, obviously not to say that Aragonese and Catalan men didn't participate in those things too, but it seems to be a distinct problem from after this that lingered on for a good while. They didn't really like the French.
Now, that's the thing. It's like, if you've got to choose between your neighbors who, yeah, like you fight with them all the time or whatever, but culturally you have a lot of similarities, and you know, these fucking French, like the French Vikings are in your backyard, you know, then you're most of the time going to fall down on the side of your neighbors.
Then, yeah, you know, what.
It is seen is more foreign threat because one ament only it is more foreign right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's you know, we all know there's leads to fourteen ninety two, the removal of the last Muslim stronghold from Granada in the very southern tip of Spain. But you know, we can't lump all of that together because not only were the people of all andelusiks speriencing different things at the time, at these times, the leadership was going through different things, and you know, there was a push and pull. It wasn't all just
the Christians pushing south relentlessly for four hundred years. It was you pushed a little and you got somewhere, and okay, we took back part of Extremadura, and everyone's like, yeah, there's a reason no one really cares that you did that. I call it dura and not place we like to live. I realized it's not I really don't. I know, I understand Spanish, just not like that. Don't don't message me
listen now, you know, So yeah, you just can't. You can't lump all these things together because it's, uh, you know, it's not the same thing. The uh, the as we'll talk about later. The Uh al Moravid dynasty treats not only most of their Muslim constituents, but they're Jewish and Christian and constituents far differently than the Umid state of Cordoba did, which you know, is just it's a different thing.
But yeah, so at this time, at about the early early one thousands or so, around one thousand and thirty was the very end, but the Umid state of Cordoba began to just fall apart. The wider Umids had hung around. The last Umid caliph would die in ten thirty one. But yeah, the Umid state just couldn't hold it together, what with all the Berbers and everything going on, the different factions on the peninsula, and they broke into typhas.
So how was it that they were able to do this and break into these typhos without like being overwhelmed, Because typically if you're looking at the history of this and you say, okay, this is when the Yumid state of Kordoba broke up, So that would definitely be when a big push came. And the thing about it was that it wasn't they didn't there wasn't a big push again for fifty years after this.
So no, no, And I mean so I think that that just goes to show you how I suppose Europeanized everyone had become at that point in time. It's like they can break up into the typhus and things like that because they're like, wellsh I don't know everyone else has smaller kingdoms now, So like I guess we're doing that now, right, because it's just like if everyone up in Astorias or whatever has their own kingdom, well that's that's a route to continuing rule for the people who
still want to keep charge. You know, if you're a major landholder, you're still going to want to keep your land going. You're not going to want to see anyone kind of come take it over. So they just kind of break up and fracture a little bit, because that's what everyone's been doing, you know, like that's what happens when the empires fall, right, And it all also kind of shows us what I think is quite interesting is there's this disinterest coming to us from the Arabian Peninsula
at this point in time. They're like, yeah, fuck it, that's too far to walk. I'm not going over there, dude, you know, like and you know, there is kind of more of a I suppose recentering happening in Islam at the time, you know, more of a desire to push into uh further into Asia then there is wanting to go into Europe. There is, and there are great reasons for that. It's like you can already trade, you know, with with the Iberian Peninsula. There's no real need to
do that. Whereas if you can manage to Islamify some of these Mongols around here and stuff like that, then you stand to make a make some pretty good connections, right you know, where we're we are putting our sites on Persia in places like that instead, And so I think it just kind of shows that everything was actually fairly settled in terms of what things are, and everyone just kind of accepted that there is a bit of a melting pot situation going on over on the Iberian
Peninsul's like there's all these varying states and you know, it's interesting too, because like the ten thirties, it's like, you know, so now we're in we've just got to the high medieval period. Like congratulations, everybody, We've done it.
And you know, they there isn't going to be a big bunch of Christians who are going to come and take it over, because it's like Jesus, the French just had to invent Normans because they're having enough problems with Vikings, right, They're like, I don't know, I guess we've bought these guys. Now they are viking about, you know, more or less. You know, they've got a lot more back and forth going on with whatever's going on in England because that's
just kind of the way that they're pointed. They know that if they want to do something in terms of like attacking you know, Muslim they're going to have to get through a bunch of Christian kingdoms first, and they're not going to be happy to see you. Yeah, there's a bunch of French people. So it's like, you know, it would kind of be up to the Christians on the peninsula, and the Christians on the Peninsula know what their neighbors are, like, they know what their neighbors are
capable of. Yes, they will fight them, for sure, but you know, we're also a little bit ahead of the Crusades as well, you know, so it's sort of like there isn't this idea that like, oh, let's get together like and do like a big push because that also it just isn't in the psyche of the Iberians at the time.
I guess, yeah, yeah, it's just, you know, you don't have even if you wanted to extend Barcelona or you know, the County of Barcelona or you know, the count the Kingdom of Arragon or whatever much further south, it's going to be difficult when it's just you drawing from that
one tiny region and fighting with all your neighbors. But yeah, these Typhos, essentially I acted like you know, regular states, I mean kind of like Holy Roman imperial states, except there was no at this time, there was no overarching imperial structure above them, and so they would fight with each other, they would fight with the Christians, they made alliances with the you know, it's the same stuff. And I mean this is going on even after the Almorovids
take over. It still takes them a while, like into the early eleven hundreds before they kind of break what the Typhos were doing like this. But yeah, that brings us up to ten sixty four, in the ten sixty three and the Siege of Barbastros, so it's considered different than the events that came before it. But from a historical perspective, how is it? Because I mean we have seen like what we would kind of consider cross national
coalitions to fight Muslims in Iberia. You know, uh, the Charles Martel and his Franks and the Oquitanians under O to the Great. So you know what makes Barbastro special different?
I guess that it is because the the desire to go out and get Barbastro is coming from the papacy as opposed to coming from varying rulers. Right, So when Charles Martel is doing this, he's like, hell, yeah, free land baby, ye right, Whereas more or less Barbastro is like Pope Alexander the second idea, right, And so what is happening here. It isn't about like going to nobles and just saying, hey, you want to fight. It's like this is preached. You know, they send out preachers saying,
oh yeah, let's let's go. Let's go fucking get these guys, right, and so like we are going to go out and we are going to get the Burgundians and the French to kind of point themselves down here, right. And this is interesting. It has become interesting to people, essentially because from a historiographical standpoint, people like to say that this is kind of like a crusade before the Crusades, right, so this is about the papacy beginning to throw its
weight around. And that is also one of the big differences between this and when Charles Martel does it is you know, when Charles Martel was doing it, the papacy still didn't have any fucking power, right. It's like it's the it's the eleventh century and the papc has finally got a little bit of street cred and they decided this is what they're going to use it for. And now obviously there is a amount of cynicism that is
going to go along with this as well. You know, the church wants to expand back into the areas because they want tithes, right like, let's let's just be so real here. And basically nobles are going to do it because a they can get a plannary indulgence and so that's pretty sweet. And be like, again, if you're just like some fail son, this is a chance to get some pretty sweet land in theory, like if you're like the fourth son of a Burgundian viscount then like, here's
a way to actually get something, right. So this ends up being particularly popular with like the Aquitanese and stuff, you know, like the people who are kind of like southern anyway where they're like, oh, I don't have to walk very far, maybe could get like some some more land. And we see also that like the catalogs are like, oh, sweet dog, like this is going to be good for
us to get some land. And I think that there in lies kind of the crux with why this doesn't work very well, because you know, everyone who showed up is like, sweet, I'm going to get land, right.
Barbastro isn't that big. It's barely a blip between Huesca and Zara, Like what are we doing here?
Yeah? This is like a city, right, you know, which is also what makes this so funny because you know people now like to jack off about it, like I see people I mean white supremacists. Are they people who don't know?
Like, to be clear, I was not jacking off about it in the intro. You are not you are my passionate interest versus there.
I don't mean you, Luke, I never mean you. What I mean is that you know, there are some people who build it up into being more than than what it is, because like, the thing that's quite funny about this is that it is very acquisitorial, right, because like that that's why I don't fall text. Everyone's like, okay, cool, I'm here, like where's my ship, And everyone's like what, like it's only a little city, right, you know, And so that's quite funny.
Yeah, it's yeah, it.
It is.
There are differences from the actual crusades. There are no vowels in this one, there's no pilgrimage attached to it. There's less widespread preaching and church involvement, and this is strictly marshal. But a big thing in this apparently meant a whole lot to a lot of people in Europe, is that church leadership is not officially doing this. Like even though Alexander the second is like, yes, this is a good idea, it's not officially sponsored by the church.
The bishops aren't like walking before people, which is what
would happen later. But yeah, so it's you know, it's a difference, and that what we would consider basically just a fig leaf for you know, the for the historians, like meant a lot to these people at the time, because the difference in response from this which is anemic to thirty in thirty years, to the next one, which is over two hundred thousand people total showing up to like march halfway across the world and die in the heat, you know, is insane.
Well, I mean yeah, and when you think about it, right, it makes sense because what this is is, as you say, this is a fig leaf. This is an excuse to go fuck your neighbor up and like get some land. And they're like, oh, yeah, I'm really mad about Muslims question mark, you know, and going to get some land. Whereas the Crusades, there is great, a great deal of
like personal piety that comes into it. And certainly one of the reasons why it's something that people want to do is because you know, as good Christians, they all want to go to the Holy Land someday. You know, this is something that they really wish to experience. And pilgrimage is a really important part of the medieval way of thinking about Christianity and your place in the world.
And I mean there's the pilgrimage to something the combozzella, but like it's not in Muslim hands, you know, and like that, and that's one that everybody goes on all the time, right, Like everybody, like people we going down to something over the comstella, like you know, they're on the commune area. They're just like yeah, what what you know all the time. So that's absolutely fine. Like the big thing that you'd be like, yeah, we must free
it from these Muslim dogs or whatever is free. So it's it just it is more of a land grab fundamentally. And I think that, you know, to cast dispersions at Alexander the second, I think he's just kind of like trying to expand his tithe base. You know, this is about bringing money in from one of the richest parts of Europe. So yeah, if you could just re christianize it, that'd be great, thanks, you know.
Mm hmm, yeah, it's yeah. It's also this is kind of I mean, this kind of does look like a drive run for the Albergui and Cruse where they were like, you know those people in some France they've been doing some heresy and are you sure it's just you didn't want to have the nice southern French land to yourself, you sure? No, no, no, no, I would never do that. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, it's be fair.
They did be doing some heresy. I mean they did, but you know, like that, I would have killed them for it. I would have killed them for it personally.
Yeah. It was uh you know, yeah, you know, Barbastro was, as I said, retaken quite quickly by Muslim forces. But that would be short lived for the time because the Christians did start pushing further south at this point and they they ran up into the Almoravid dynasty. The Taiphas were fighting amongst themselves. They could really unite to fight back against the Christians who were loosely fighting more together.
At this point, they the Muslim contingents had lost Madrid and Toledo by ten eighty five, but uh, the Almoravids, who had taken power in north uh northwest Africa and based out of Marrakech, they decided to come over and deal with the squabbling Taiphas, get them under the power and then and they basically rolled over and they were like, look, you can either keep fighting with each other and be ruled by Christians or uh, you know, become vassals to us,
unite and push the Christians back. And they were like well, you know better the devil we know, and they went they they got under the Almoravids and it it was uh that stopped that completely checked the Christian push south for a while. They would not be able to, uh to move any further south, uh until Kowenka in UH eleven seventy seven. But uh, yeah, the Almrvids were different because they were based on a much more conservative Islamic sect and they had much different opinions on Christians and
Jewish citizens than previously. Now they didn't push them out or you know, lead any state sponsored programs.
There.
There were a couple of earlier programs against Jews, one in Cordoba and like ten eleven and another one a little bit later, but uh those were those were not you know, widespread sponsor you know states sponsored things. They were much smaller. But yeah, things became a lot more difficult then Christians and Jews would jew were reviewed a lot more skeptically under the owl more evids than before.
But yeah, it uh eleanor like I mean, I guess you can kind of understand it because like if it becomes like an existential thing us versus them, you can kind of understand how they would eventually become more uh more militant against it. Uh, you know, because it directly affects them. But you know, like what uh you know what, like you know what, what were their efforts to like do this, to like crack down, because they clearly didn't
kick any of them out. They still accepted the Jesus, So like, you know what was the difference?
Yeah, well, I mean the thing about the Ubians is they were like fairly lax, right, like, I mean quite famously.
Yeah.
That's part of the reason why they end up getting toppled is everyone's like, guys, you see pretty drunk, and everyone's like what me, No, no, no, no, I'm just very high on hash Yeah. And also you know what, this is a normal amount of drunk.
Oh oh, oh, you're perfect. Oh I see smoke weed right before I drive my son to archery practice. Oh I can't drive a chariot effectively when I've been had a little smoking. Oh yeah, good point, mom, that it's a hundred percent. Do not smoke weed and operate vehicles, or get drunk and operate vehicles anyway, Go ahead.
Please do not get in a chariot.
Yes, after a chariot of anything. Don't need to get on a bike. You can skin your knee and hurt yourself back.
You know, just just take you take it easy out there, folks.
They take old two feet on home or public transport anyway.
Yeah, sorry, yeah, I mean but basically, you know, that is in very many ways the downfalls of the umiad more generally right. And so yeah, the Almrbons are offering a harsher line in Islam. But that's just because they're not drunk, just kinna, you know, they're they're sort of like doing the thing you know, which which the you.
As the one of the one of the Springfield policeman has a badge in his mouth when Rix Banner shows up and kicks Wickham out of the chairs, like you spit that badge out of your mouth. You're a policeman, like exactly doing this show like you what what? How do you have three harems? This is offensive?
Exactly right, Yeah, I supposedly interesting. The other interesting thing is like, you know, the al Morivans are really coming from much more of like I suppose, a Western African background, you know, like they're much more berber and their outlook and so essentially what they are offering is kind of like, oh,
I don't know, localized form of Islam as well. So you know, like this is much more linked to kind of like the western Sahara urban culture, and it's a lot more hooked in with what is going on in that zone of influence, whereas I mean, granted, the Umi it's been cut off from you know, Arabia for ages now, but it is just very much like of of its time and place, if that makes sense. And so yeah, they are like a little bit more strict, but that's
not saying muh, you know. And and also they don't, as you say, you know, they don't have the desire to kick out Christian and Jewish counterparts because again they're they're from this culture. You know, these are people who have been here a long time too. And also, you know, the fun thing about strict Muslims is the stricter of the group of Muslims, the more they're going to need non Muslims just in order to like, you know, get paid, right,
you need that just yet. So yeah, it's like the irony of you know, strict Islam is always how many non Islamic people are are hanging around as a result, you.
Know, yeah, you know, this is pretty much where we're going to leave off with the whole Christendom thing. It's starting to form into a real cause in fits and starts, and you know, the Almorovids stopped the Southern push for a time, but beginning in the late eleven hundreds, that
Southern push is going to become fully unstoppable. And you know, we we know where that leads to, uh to the final banishment or the final uh throwing off of Buslim from from from the the Iberian Penunsul in fourteen ninety two. And you know they never had to think about it
ever again ever. You know, yeah, we'll talk about that next time, because this is a good time to talk about a very famous person probably and we probably the single most famous person from this entire era, uh el Seed see El el Sid Yeah, yeah, there you go. You gotta you gotta say it all fancy like, uh yeah. He was born in ten forty three. He died in ten ninety nine, antagonizing the al Morovids. You know, he shows up in a lot of Siev games. Eleanor what's his deal? Why is this guy so? Why why is
he so famous? And why does he have a really metal looking statue in Yas.
Yeah, he does have a really metals Dutch Borgos, So he is really interesting. I say, he's from near Borgos, home to my favorite type of black pudding out more. But so he is just one of these very Iberian dudes, right, So he would just kind of work for whoever, and he was a pretty fucking good military leader, right. So he starts out kind of like working with and alongside the Castilians. You know. He he's like a lower nobleman in the same way that like everyone who you hear
about is, and he kind of like makes good. Right. So he's working initially for Sancho the second I simply love to say the names of the very Iberian kings and I'm like, yeah, come on, Sancho. So he was at this point in time employed and kind of fighting more particularly against Zardagosa, and he was working alongside Sancho, and you know is Muslim at the time. But it's just also is kind of like who they're next to. Yeah,
you know, so that's that's quite funny. And so they're like, okay, yeah, that's that's what we're gonna get get down to, right, We don't exactly know what happens at this point in time. We think that maybe, like I'll see these like killing out goes people like there are some there are some
like rumors that he managed to do that. But anyway, as Sancho ends up getting killed, probably by like you know, his cousins or some shit, right, And so his brother takes over from him, and his brother had been in exilent Delaedo and it was like, oh no it is my brother dad. Wow, that's crazy, bro. And so anyway he well no what bro, oh bro, No, not bro. Anyway, Hey I'm here, I'm here, I'm back right out. Yeah yeah, So like homeboys back and like you know, here we go.
Like he is not particularly interested in working with his brother's friends, and Elsie'd essentially gets himself exceled at this point in time, and so he's like, okay, well all right, whatever, dude, Like it's hard to keep a good bitch down. Fuck it, we ball and so off he goes, and he ends up just kind of being like anybody anybody sells sword anybody, uh.
And he ends up then going to work for some of the Muslims because they're like I don't give a shit, right, Like, you know, I just got kind of get paid out here, right.
So like he.
Manages to like impress anyone because he ends up fighting like the Emma Ranada, uh, and he does really really well against them, but that doesn't necessarily mean that everyone's like, oh yeah, this question just like fighting him like that means everyone's like, oh, we're like I'm paying attention, right, So for over he goes end up like in Barcelona, right, and so it's like okay, yeah, that's fine, here we go.
We're in Barcelona. But basically then people are like, hey, what's up, I got more money, right, and like the type of Zaragosa is like, hey, homeboy, I hear that you've been getting treated badly by your your friends. Do you want to like come and work for us? And Elside is like basically like hell yeah I will, right, And like so he he'd been you know, he can't hang out at Alphonsa's court, so here he goes, right, and so now he's working for the type of Zagosa.
They end up fighting other typhas almost like primarily he does end up like beating the shit out of the Arragonese as well, which is cool, you know, and they besiege Gibraltar, they do all these sorts of things, and then hilariously then you have like the French try to get involved because like the Christians are getting their asses
beat pretty badly. So here comes Raymond of Burgundy and he's like, yeah, well now I'm gonna like attack Zadagosa or whatever, and like that was stupid, you know, and uh, and like we all learn a valuable lesson, right, But one of the valuable lessons that we learn is like maybe we should call el Seed back and be like, hey, I saw you, sure you don't wanna you don't want
to do that or whatever. So he gets basically like a recalled and like so he's then working for Alfonso again, and like he gets kicked some of the Almoro fans out. But then basically what ends up happening is he kind of goes out on his own. So he's sort of got his own army at this point in time that is both Christian and Muslim, and he's like, I want my own land. Like I'm tired of like going back
and forth between like a Zaragosa and Castile. I want I want to be able to like make something for myself so basically he's like, well, I'm going to go and attempt to sort of take over some of Valencia. Now, the rulers of Barcelona are like, the fuck you are?
You know, like I don't I would really rather that you do not do that, and Elsie's like, yeah, well I'm gonna do that anyway, right, And so he ends up laying siege to Valencia, and basically like he does kind of okay, but he ends up eventually kind of
like dying. There are some fun rumors about this, so like one of them is that his wife Humana then like puts his corpse onto his horse and then is like, oh look everybody, it's el Seed and we're all gonna like the siege and everyone was yay, fantastic, like falls it out, but like that's probably like not real unfortunately.
But like one way or another, he's a really interesting guy because it actually shows us, I think, what is really going on down on the Iberian Peninsula, which is, I don't know, man, whatever the fuck you want, Like you got a strong back, we could use you a kind of a deal down there, right, Like he is able to play off people very very well. He is aware of the fact that there is a possibility to take your own land if you've got a good enough army.
He is willing to work with whomever. You know, he's got Muslims in his employee, he's got Christians in his employee. He is employed by varying people at vary in times. And he's also taking advantage of the fact that it is just a fucking mess down there, right. We got brothers killing brothers, we got cousins killing cousins, we've got everybody at war with everyone, and chaos is a ladder homie.
Right.
So people like to big l seed up into kind of like an anti Muslim person, but that's like a fucking ridiculous thing to say. That means he didn't look at anything, and actually what he is is very much a man of his time and place, right, Like I mean, no, you like the all the like weird nineteen forties movies about him and stuff are all about like what a Christian guy he is, right, And it's like, yeah, I.
Mean, yeah, he was a Christian, but he wasn't. He wasn't he he was He wasn't fighting the uh, the the Muslims because he hated them.
No, let's not say that no, and and like that that's the thing, right, He's doing it because this is possible, and you know, he really can take advantage of these situations and play people off against each other. And you know, like you go ahead, la siage to Valencia. You know, look does it take?
No?
Okay? Right, like the SEASONALCI not take. But you know he gave it a good crack.
Yeah I tried. Yeah, yeah, you can't say that LC didn't work with whoever came along when he needed them big. He was a big fan of the Typha of Zarigo, so he worked with them a lot and fought against a lot of Christians with them, which really wasn't that uncommon. As I said earlier, a lot of these typhos they employed Christian mercenaries who fought against Christians specifically who were really hated. So yeah, it was good times. Yeah. Anyway,
enough of this Christian nonsense. Let's talk about the contributions al Anderles made during its flashing height. There's the widespread Islamic Golden Age, which goes far beyond Spain. Of course, it goes across the entire Islamic world, beginning around seven sixty eight, lasting into the twelve hundred's but it's you know, folks, we got so many things, you know, so much from this,
so much astronomy, so much everything. But basically the stuff that is specific to al Andolou's astronomy a huge contributions from Ibn Tufail Alba Tragi and of course Avaros, who is a polymath. He's going to show up a few times on this hell. Yah, he just you know, he's he's one of the only one of the only Muslims of Vinsaladin who gets to stand in the first ring
of Hell because he's so respected. And I mean like there are something like six six peop astronomers from Andalucia who are thanked by name by Copernicus at the beginning of they of us. So yeah, they contributed a lot to our current understanding of the universe, according to the guy who came up with our current understanding of the universe.
But that's right, yeah, yeah, and you know that they're really going hard on astronomy, which is very cool.
So yeah, I think there are a number of medical texts that are that try to be comprehensive, you know, because at the time they're just all kind of spread out. You get a lot of this stuff. It's it becomes you know, they there's this kind of thing that you hear sometimes about how like the Muslims might have had a better understanding of medicine at the time, and from the temp from you know, from our perspective, we'd be like, well, no, because no, you will understand it. Yeah, yeah, it's still
yeah gallanic. But from their perspective, yes, it was incredibly advanced for the time. You know, they were at the forefront of four humors ology and all that.
They're pretty good surgeons. Is the thing that is really going down very well in terms of Islamic medicine, and that is something that feeds into European medicine very very closely. So pretty much everyone in Europe agrees that they're where to go if you need, for example, lieball surgery, right, Like there's medical trees on that sort of thing, and that is one of the things that does improve in the medieval period. It's very specifically surgery.
I mean, like like their surgery would be considered like beyond gruesome by our standards, but like if you can do like a one or two percent sent uh percentage rise in like people who are saved people who survive. That's huge because your percentage saved is already so low that like rise is like whoa, that's you.
Know, no, And that's that's what it comes down to, is that there are these really big leaps that they managed to make in surgery, and surgery is the thing that is possible to get better at if you still believe in your world theory. And that's like, yeah, that's the one that's.
It's funny how they're like caps on everyone like so much of it because like if you're not willing to think about germs and bacteria or anything like that, like it really limits most of your horizons in medicine, except like you can be like, wait a minute, we now know how to get an arrow out of a guy slightly better. We did it. Yeah, okay, Oh.
You know what they're really good at is fistulas interesting, which is yeah, there's like lots of lots of surgical guides to that, and you know, I'm sure people are very glad that they were. So it's a terrible way to go, terrible way to go.
Otherwise, it's and another big thing something we don't think about, but these people did fantastic steps forward in irrigation growing stuff. Folks, Do you like sugar, do you like bananas? Do you
like things like this? Because that had those things have like worldwide applications now because of this, because the first sugar plantations were started in the Middle East by you know, I think it was under the Umids or around that time, but anyway, they spread out and went everywhere, and there is a thing called the Arab agricultural revolution, which I can't speak to the fact of whether it's actually revolutionary
or not, but it was a big deal. You know, the Islamic States were very big about state sponsored agricultural projects, especially in places where like you could grow a lot, but you needed a lot of help with irrigation, like Spain, because you can there are a lot of places in Spain you can grow a lot, but you do got to do a lot of irrigation because it's pretty dry in some parts of the country. As you know, anyone who's been there can discuss. And you know, this is
a big deal. Like part like the thing about Alhambra, one of the I mean, you know, it's a gorgeous palace. It's like it has like all these little fantastic details. But one of the big things about it was it helped this entire area turn into like a lush like fertile growing region because it had these advanced water gardens and these advanced water systems like their aqueducts and things like that, which are still there and still occasionally in use. So yeah, just you know, huge stuff.
It's the fucking best never been.
I love Alhambra. I love the look of it. I just love how fucking red it is. I think it's so cool.
I love it.
Yeah, it's you know, we talked a little bit about medicine, but al al Zarawi, who he was an earlier Andalusian a physician and was later called the greatest physician Western Islam ever produced literature. Folks, these people were doing their
damn best prevent a dark ages. They were over the period from the seven hundreds to the fourteen hundreds, there are about twelve thousand known scholars fourteen thousand surviving works, and we know from you know, historical reports that in the city of Doba alone in the tenth century they were averaging seventy thousand copies Jesus of manuscripts and things per year like this is you know, there's a lot of the stuff now, you know, a lot of it
doesn't survive to us because paper and all that shit.
But I definitely doing it, Yeah for sure. Yeah. And you know, one of the big ways that we have a lot of texts from the classical period, it is strictly through this particular Iberian pathway. So like a lot of Aristotle, for example, comes to us via the Middle East into the Iberian Peninsula, they copied into Arabic, and
then it's translated out of Arabic into Latin. So that's where the great majority of it is coming from at the time, which you know, yeah, you know, you could also argue that this is one of the things that holds medicine back. Hey hey, but you know, I mean, how is it.
But like until we had microscope, until we could prove that, it's really hard for like.
Medicine to like I mean, it was like, oh yeah, Jim thinks that there's ghosts on your skin and that's what's making you sick?
What a idiot like I do like the idea that if this hadn't been spread that like some guy and like, you know, twelfth century Belgium is like, hey, bacteria, germs. That's a real thing, right, and people would have just been like, yes, absolutely, I definitely don't need proof of that. Yeah, it's philosophy, folks. Our buddy Avros is back an Avros was like he was considered a bad boy, at least in Christian circles. They were very very offensive to the you know, to the to the to the more stiff
upper types. But yeah, you know he uh many contributions and many things that I'm just like, man, that sounds really smart. I'm not dealing with all much. Yeah, yeahs is a thing.
Yeah, absolutely, And you know they're the incredible amount philosophy that's going on at the time means that you get a lot of great philosophy out of Christians and Jewish people as well. So there's a really great there's a really great culture of polemicism going on on the Iberian Peninsula at the time, which like all the scholars are really into this. So the scholars are constantly like beefing.
They're just having like posting flame wars with each other and then also borrowing books from each other, which is adorable. So it creates a really great culture for these sorts of things.
Yeah, it's you know, this is a little bit after this, but this is when the Jewish scholar and writer Memora Montese Mamonodese. I'm sorry. I apologize to everyone who had to hear that, but yeah, you guys know who I'm talking about. Uh, he was writing a little bit after this. Of course he was not writing in uh in al and Delous because his family were run out of there by the Almahds. But but yeah, it's you get you just have this huge, this huge flourishing that goes on.
And of course, like arts, architecture, like the Great Mosque of Cordova is still there in altered form.
Uh.
You just you have all of these, you know, different beautiful things. The Heralda in Seville, Alhambra's usually as we talked about, and you know, just I don't, as I've said many times, I'm not big on architectural styles. I don't understand it. But man, these things are pretty damn it. Yeah, they're They're really nice.
They make some absolutely beautiful fucking architecture which is still standing. And I think that there's not a lot more that you can say for something then it's gorgeous and still around. You know, a thousand years later. That's pretty fucking good, right.
Yeah, yeah, it's great. Yeah, it's it's great. The Great Mosque of Cordova now the Mosque Cathedral of Cordova, which.
You know, it's so cool.
It looks it's fucking huge. Like the idea of like the mosque slash cathedral is so funny to me, like the like the medieval KFC slash taco bell wrist.
I'm at there.
I'm going in here.
I'm at the cothree jel what I'm at the combination great mosque and cofthree Jill exactly. Yeah, thank you.
You just go in there and it's like, wow, I can do both. This is like people are just grinding their teeth to dust, Like, no, that's not the point.
No, great, it's really good, very very fun folks.
It's there's so much here, so much beautiful culture, so many of the things that we we you know, that we have today that we take for granted. You know, all that math stuff that you roll your eyes about that we all roll our eyes about and we think we never used but then kind of do. Uh, folks, it's all on them.
And geometry, bitch.
Yeah, geometry, motherfucker algebra. Uh yeah, that that's about going to do it for us today. Next time, as I said, we will close the series out and we will talk about the sad end of all antelous and uh yeah, what what it all means and why why it's said, why we lost something and uh you know why the other states of Spain should should secede if they want, because yeah, because this, yes, Spain, Spain is fake. Break break back apart into your competing little statelets.
Selling shirts that just say fake across the map of Spain.
No Spain, I'm gonna need all of Europe just to break into the tiny statelets it was after the Roman Empire. Let's just fall apart. You know, you guys can can Yeah however you want. But yeah, thank y'all for listening. Uh, we'll be back with that next time. And uh then we'll be back on this Friday with our fourth episode in our series on the Cameron. So come check that out all of your for all of your medieval writing needs.
For your sex story based yes several, I'm sure.
Uh huh yes, late that people are gonna be like, wait, sex, what was this cool? You guys want to hang out? Yeah, about doing like a medieval only fan for the last time. No, no, stop, and somebody's like, I'll give you money. It's like, wait, I don't know, hold on, hold on. Maybe I was. Yeah, as long as I never have to appear on screen, you could just hear me talking, maybe we'll see hell yeah, I uh yeah, yeah. I don't even know how to segue off of that. Eleanor what the fuck's going on? Yeah?
Well, I mean, yeah, that's over by the end of the week. Over at my personal Patreon. If you want to read twenty five hundred words that I've written about show Girls, that's the place to do it. Baby. What the fuck else is going on?
Yeah?
I don't know. A bunch of stuff that isn't out yet. Still. I know I keep saying this, but it's because it just keeps happening. So yeah, I did. The place to keep up with me is on the socials. I'm at going medieval and you know, you know, I'll be posting my ship when it comes up, you know how I be. It's like, we're un really out here.
Yeah, yeah, you can. You can find me where uh you know, the socials, Luca is amazing. You can find my old show people's Sister of dew Republic if you want to hear me yep about Star Wars. Otherwise, yeah, thank y'all very much and we'll see you next time.
By I don't know why that was so peppy.