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is a week? What is time? It's I feel like it makes us really have to lean into the routine of the week and like go hard on Friday night and Saturday to like feel like it's the weekend. It's so funny because the weekends have are now we haven't had full real weekends for our entire relationship because I'm usually teaching in from class on weekends. And know, it's what I've always wanted, is like for us to actually

have downtime, and we do it. We do, although I'm sort of inevitably there's sort of some work being caught up on because we only have half work days throughout the week, but it is better than before. But I'm doing housework and you're doing we're getting ready to two. Being homeowners, we do have like a weird Saturday cleaning routine. Um, I took a lot of garbage to the dump. There's no garbage service here, so I go to the dump and I love it. You love the dump. I could

just sort all my recyclables. You love errand's like I do. I think I do. That has not always been true. You know. My next task is what I'm going to redo the horseshoe pits. There's horseshoe pits where we are. They're like sixty years old. Okay, if you read those though, can you make me some um garden beds? Can you put build extra squares for plant and budgies and stuff?

All right? Is this a challenge? Yeah? I don't know when we're if we're ever going to leave here, but I think I'm just gonna mentally prepare for it, being like not until summer or later. Yeah, We've we've planted all those herbs. We have to be here until at least we Yeah, I just feel like planting makes me feel like I'm like preparing for sort of like a good time and not like being trapped in a place that I don't normally live, you know, just like this

is my home and making it my home. Things things are alive here because of me. It's my home. I made the life here. You made honestly, you made almost you know, almost half of the life here. Almost half of the life here. Yeah, okay, um no, but I did today, so I had this is so boring, but

this is my life. Now. There had been some herbs that your mom planted at this house last summer, and so they were in this pot outside and they were like roots, but they were kind of dead, and there was like a couple that seems sort of salvageable, but it was still really cold outside. So I took some of the rosemary inside and put it in a glass

of water, hoping that it would grow roots. And then it like sort of grow root, and then when I touched it, I like accedentally broke the root off, and then it like and then like three more weeks went by and now it has a root, and now I put it in a pot of dirt, and I'm like, just like, these are the things, like it will make my day if this plant grows these this is my life. It's like I've I've been fixing door knobs and hinges, and it is so satisfying. There are two doors upstairs

there are so old that they're all warped. That the door wouldn't close because the just the door is too bigger than the doorframe. I went in the basement and I found a planer and I went up on top of the door and I just scraped like a quarter of an inch of the wood off the top of the door and it closes. The doors never closed for my entire life. And I fixed the lock on the bathroom door upstairs that shouldn't lock, So that was very satisfying. There you go, and you got this ship. The bathroom

in our room has a window on it. Yeah. For some reason, it's like a French door to the bathroom where you with like a cheer curtain hanging over it that was on the outside of the door. So whenever I would go pee, the kids would come in the bedroom, pull the curtain aside and stare at me. And it's like just not like how what I want to be thinking about when I'm sitting in the bathroom. And now you can't see see that shade at all. That is rock shade. And I put on the inside of the door.

That didn't even occur to me that the shade was on the outside. I understand why why they did that, because if you're going to put like a curtain, you don't necessarily want to getting steamed up and moldy the master bedroom. So anyway, it's yeah, it's well in This house also has like has had additions put on at different times, so sometimes there's just like weird little quirks of like why is this window to the other room.

So I which went for a little walk today. It's been raining, it's going to rain all week here, and I went to the mailbox that I built, and uh, you're so proud on the way back your crowning. It's just something I had never even considered. Well, now that we know that you know how to poor concrete. My sister is really eager for you to put up a basketball hoop. I'm not against that. She's dying for you

to do. Not a great place for it, but I just don't know if and how we could get a hoop delivered right now, if that's possible, maybe to have one home depot um probably not home depot. I've been going to lose anyway, um um, we've had our children

have been still slightly insane, pretty good. I mean, Britain, I feel like we're over sending Brent to his room, but it's been a really rainy couple of weeks and so they're cooped up and I think sometimes he just like he gets overloaded and then he's like beyond help, you know what I mean. This morning I met you

made them. They're nice little worksheets, which was a nice surprise when we sat down to start Daddy school because we started we I do it in the morning, and you made these little things to drop a picture of day right, a thing, here's your name. Tracey'd copy it so that Maven and Britne could do together. There's a nice balance of like things that they both could do. And uh Brin said, I'm not doing this, and when I walked out of the room, he ripped it up and put it in the trash and I got so mad.

That is really annoying because I spent a minute making that. But then Maven did the same thing with the other one, and then when they calmed down, they then both did the remaining page that you made for them. So you did twice as much more as you need to where they went the trash for somebody. I think that a weekend of so much TV and then they woke up the morning, watched TV and it was hard to get back into the Monday routine. Yeah, they've been doing a

lot of that sort of thing lately. Maven has I think I had heard somewhere that like a lot of children are regressing right now because the coronavirus and routines are not going correctly and they're just feeling unsettled. So Maven has started peeing her pants again, which is not something she really did for a long time. Yeah, I mean here and there. Yeah, she's had occasional accidents here and there, but it's not like a thing she ever

really had a problem with. This week, she has peter her pants like ten times twice today she's been she wore three dresses today. I think it was yesterday. She peter her pants definitely four times in one day. And I'd like keep trying to explain it to her, and I'm trying not to get team mad at her because I don't want her to be ashamed about it, like I just want she doesn't seem to be ashamed. I know, but like when you you were kind of getting mad at her, and then she like has started lying to

us about it. So now it's more annoying because you don't know how long she's walking around and like sitting on stuff with peepye pants, and so I like, I'll like grab, I'll pick her up or something and feel her butt, and her pants were all wet. And I don't know how long she's been doing that. And she keeps when I tell her she paid her pants, she keeps being like, no, it's just sweat. It's like so much p I'm like, are you your little girls won't sweat?

Like you're a bad liar three year old? She's she's lying so much lately. I walked into the room now, and I feel like I immediately to see Brin or may even look up at me, like Hi, the face just said I wasn't doing anything, so don't look in my hands behind my back. I didn't just eat an entire bag of Reese's peanut butter chips. So this morning she got ahold of a bag of chocolate chips that I kind of knew she knew about, but she was

being kind of sly about. I would see her sneak a couple of chocolate chips out and then put it back in the drawer and then like go about her business. And I was like, at least she's being like sort of like considerate, like on Brand, who would just like dumped the whole thing all over the floor, you know, and so I just throw them all over the room and go, what, Yeah, he would just eat. So I hadn't really like put an end to it because it didn't seem like as big of a problem with some

of their other raids. And then this morning she had chocolate all over her face and I found out from them that they're eating chocolate chips, but I didn't see them anywhere. And she was walking around carrying this like soft cloth easter basket. She got like carrying it like a purse. And all of a sudden I look in I realized she has a whole bag of chocolate chips in the easter basket. She's just been like carrying it around the house like a little psycho. What does psycho?

And that little psycho is about to turn four, I know, on Friday. I can't believe it's already here. And you know, it's the weirdest. The weirdest thing about her birthday I think is the fact that we won't have any wrapping paper. I know. I was trying to decided to just do anything about that, and then I it's like I don't care well for I realized for a few days as I was like, well, we'll just use newspaper, and then I was like, I haven't touched a newspaper in how

long we don't have newspaper? Do you think we have newspapers because I've had a newspaper. I'm in this house which I connect to my parents. I connected being home where there was always newspaper. I mean, I didn't think about it. It was a half thought. I'm just put it in boxes. Maybe we'll make it a scavenger hut. Would that be a fun way to open your presence because it's actually just annoying to hide stuff on Easter because then you have to mentally remember where everything is

when they can't find it. Um, But what if you're a parent that loves that? I disagree. It's about idea. Wow. I she told me this today that she wants a narwhale cake, which I'm like, how the hell am I going to make a narwhal. I mean just not easy. You make a cake. The narwhal face is easier than a unicorn, and we'll just make a little cone with paper and put it on top. Yeah, I guess so. I love this idea, you know, the narwhale in Elf. Bye, buddy,

I hope you'll find your dad. I feel like that's the design, like a little mouth, and I that we should go for. Okay, great, I'm so glad you're so enthusiastic. Um, what else? We can't go outside because it's raining for the rest of our lives. Um Brin smashed a lamp this week, among other things that was destroyed. If you want to see all the things that Britain has broken

since we've been here, um, go to my Instagram. He also to day I thought for a second that he broke his nose because he was trying to play fight with me and then just whirled himself towards me, and I like sort of caught him, but his face flew into the side of the couch really hard. And then he pulled back and I was like, are you okay?

And he was like no, and and and then I just see his nose was like I could see him like squinting, and I could see him like trying to decide how bad his face hurt, because he slammed his nose inside and then he was just like squinting and like feeling it for a second, and then slowly blood started dripping out of his nostril. I was he's handled it well at first, and then he didn't stand still well because then you were like, oh, hey, buddy, do you want me to graphically describe how this blood is

coming out of your nose? I knew. I was like you were like you were like, what does it taste like in your throat? Blood? What does blood taste like? You were actually this have a scarier sense of experience. That caught his attention. That was the most successful thing I did know you. Once you left, we talked about it, and he was he was like, well, it distressed him when he wanted to know how I knew what metal tasted like, and I was like, that's a good question,

because it tastes like blood. Um. But when I came over there, I knew. I knew. I was like, I need to stay calm because the other day you and Alison were out and when Britain broke the lamp. He was doing so he loves Monsters, Inc. And Monsters University, the two fine Pixar films. And in Monsters University there's a whole plot where they're doing like the scare games in college, and one of the events is like they have to sneak by this librarian, so it's a sneaking game.

So Brin loves to sneak around as if he's one of the members of Uzma Kappa. And uh so he was. I was like walking a room and he'll like sneak with Maven around the edges, and of course they couldn't be louder because they're on all fours, like quiet, quiet, and so he was sneaking around the back of the couch and the table, and of course that's where the plug to the lamp was. The lamp is a basically a giant glass jar that my mom filled with pine cones and it's very cool and then a lamp plugs

it on top. So he pulled that off and it fell basically on top of him, um and it shattered on the wall above his head, and then he got wedged between the table and the window. So that it didn't follow out of the ground, but all of the shattered glass fell down to the ground where he was on all fours and so I saw the shot shatter,

and you know, very pan necked. I screamed. I said, don't move, like stop stop, and of course would Brant do, but he was totally freaked out by the fact that I freaked out and just started like in my mind, he'll like get food on his hand or something, and I'll be like brand and he like starts flapping the food all around the kitchen, like just like splashing it everywhere.

I don't know how he did not cut himself, but he then was like on knees, his feet, his knees, his hands, all of them running like like a Fred Flintstone starting his car. They can think they're way out of there. Um. The whole time I was like stop, don't move, no freeze, stop eddie where they got out there like Brant? And then I quickly calmed down and said, it's like the reason why I was yelling of glass and I don't want to get hurt, are you okay?

I'm not mad at you, um, But it was a really scary moment where I thought he's going to have like five cuts all of him. So when he had a bloody nose and I knew he was going to panic, I went straight to that and I was like, hey, buddy, we're fine. Blood buddy, the blood, it's cool, right. Can we talk about the Mann pee pants incident, which which one where you got very angry? I don't when did

I get angry? You were like, she pewed her pants, and then we took them off and put them in the laundry, and then she went to the laundry basketball put the pepe pants. She put the pea pants back on, and then you were getting really mad at her. So he took the pants off again, and we're hiding them and she's still trying to get them up off a high shelf. Or you forgot the step where I in front of her put them in the sink to wash them and got them all wet. So I was like,

well now you can't. In my mind was like, well, she won't want to wear him now, and so I threw him in the washing machine and she immediately rushed for the washing machine. I was like, I was like, come on, I had to go do a story part live show, in the basement and prepare all the tech for it, and so I was so annoyed, and then I put it up high, and then I don't remember what happened. Well, at one point you got so angry at her that you were They were like, you want

to wear peep pants, Fine, you don't get close. And then you took her shirt off and took that away. And then she was standing there naked, like pouting and stomping her feet for so long. And it sounds cruel, and it was, and it was weird because she was being she was stood in the mudroom. So I put her pants up the highest point in the mud room. There's no way she could ever get to it, and

then she kept reaching for it. She knew she can't reach it, it's like more than double our height, but looking at me going But she also had no pants and no one wear on and just her T shirt and was weirdly getting self conscious, so she would try to cover herself with jackets and then I would ignore her.

But then she peek around the corner to see if I was looking, and then I wasn't looking, but then she wanted me to look so that she could be defiant and then I did look, but then she was self conscious because she was naked, and so it was just like there was so many complex emotions. I was like sure, and then I was like she was like that door aside was like cracked open, and she was standing in your coat that was hanging on the hook, and she was like huddling in it, shivering, and so

I went to shut the door. So then of course she's so angry. She goes over and opens the door back up and then goes back into your coat to like shiver naked, and she just kept like staring at me through her like dirty bangs and just like being like, we ate dinner while she stood in the mudroom and we're just trying to ignore her because we tried to help her, like hey, let's do this, and then we're

like all right, we're gonna ignore you. And then she was so mad that we were ignoring her that for all of dinner she was in the mud room and I kept peeking over and she would just lean back to look. And then the second we caught I she's like hid and be like she's like I want you to constantly know that I'm ignoring you. And then I lost my mind and she I found her again, trying to find her clothes, her wet pep clothes, try to grab him, John, you don't get that. You don't get close.

And I took her t shirt off. I mean, but also in my mind, I was like, she's about to go to beds. She had to put on Jammie's so I just took this off. And I was like, that was an insane thing to say. This is such a funny. You don't get closing sounds terrible. Ah, that's your punishment. Um, oh boy, what are your hopes for the week ahead? Um? You know, just less punching from less p and pants from mayven. Let's rain Friday, Saturday's six degrees sixty plus

hopefully no rain. Yeah? What else? You don't get? Closed? This next segment is called Listeners Want Knows, where we take questions and comments from you guys. All right, First of all, we got a nice handful of emails from folks emailing just say congratulations on a hundred episodes. Um, so thank you to all those individuals. They weren't even asking questions nothing for the part. I guess they just said congrats, thank you guys. How thoughtful. Thank you if

you wrote in. Um, this email comes to us from Ah from a friend of mine. Uh, this is somebody of did improv with in New York City who I have not seen in a long time. Uh, Noel, who I'm gonna read this email? My partner and I live in downtown New York and are expecting a baby in a few weeks. We don't want to do anything as absurd as naming him or her COVID or anything like that, but do want to do something to help communicate to them what a crazy and historic time they came into

the world during. What are some ideas that won't seem horribly morbid or depressing once this is behind us. Also, how long after you you had kids that had take to regain a comfortable headspace to start performing again. Congrats on a Hunter episodes. Here's the pick of my partner, Noel. Look, this picture is incredible. Oh my god. They're pregnant belly outside with a coronavirus mask on her face. That's really

she looks really cute. That's a very cute cheese jacket. Um, she's ready to go, She's ready to pop. It's a great photo. Well. Uh, this is a great question, Noel, and I could not help the so the very immediately my brain. So Noah's last name is denin no Denin the very first thing, I was like, well, it's got to be quarantine toned right, quarantine to No, it's not and it should not. But I do want to say

quarantine to need. Yeah, that's our answer, quarantine to al right, next action, Um, I mean I don't do Do you name your child Rhona? No, it's Rona. I don't need more poetic about it, and I don't have a good answer right now. Like I think you've got to find a meaningful metaphor for yourself about what this time means for you. Um uh, name your child inside inside? I mean that I think you could, you know, like evoke sort of like you're the meaning or positivity that you're

finding in this time. So it's like something that makes you feel safe, like haven, you know, like you like find haven, or like Maven, like maven um or Bryn, which means hill, like the hill that you stand on in a troubled time, say Maven denin um. Yeah, But I think like, well here's a question. It probably it's you know, obviously doesn't have to be. You shouldn't name

you child, your COVID or quarantine. But what is something if it was us right now, Beth, what is something that's very prevalent in our life right now that wasn't before all this happened? Um drinking? It is literally you should name your child old fashioned, mean um bitters. Simple syrup. Oh here comes old simple syrup. Oh boy, simple syrup is delightful of the town simpleton. But it's me simple Syrup. I was trying to come up with the name for a cocktail I made up the other night, and I

was like, it's kind of like a bloody orange. I mean, I'm sure Noel will come up with something much better than we have. Well, he's asking us bath. I need time to think about this. I need to give them a questionnaire of like what resonates for you guys culturally, like um, in terms of your family, like I don't know. I feel like the name has to make sense. It's very personal, social distancing, distant, dustin dustinything like game. It after some saint that's like a hermit. That's the most

that's most of them. St. Francis. St. Francis was a hermit. St. Francis is of a c C. He's the one of animals I know. But because he was out in the wilderness, right, I don't think so this Franciscan friars there they secluded well anyway, Francis thorough Yeah, um boy, this is the listeners? What is it great or terrible? Uh? Coronavirus? Baby name? Did they say if they're having a girl or a boy? They don't think they know because they kept saying him

or her? Um? Uh. I think like you can look at like what what they're reading right now or watching or feeling inspired by, Like sometimes you take a person's last name or you know, like they'll find something. How did you because you came up um with most of our kids names. I was smart enough to recognize that you had some good ideas. Um was that? Did you find those? Just from? I mean I sort of know, but um of the typical like just going through all

the lists until you find something cool? Uh? No. I think I searched more specifically, Like I was into like very British Isles names and like nature e sounding names, and like you can kind of search by different terms and like like I was looking for a while her names that were associated with the ocean, because as you know, I have a deep love for the ocean. But it's just like those names felt like too much like Oceana and like, um, but I told you my Oceana story.

Keep going on, me tell them at the end. Okay. Anyway, I do think like that if they keep like thinking about the things that they're most drawn to, they'll just sort of they'll hone in on it. Um. Great, Uh, what is the most Beth? What do you think the most pervasive? Is that the right word? What is the what is the biggest thing in our lives right now that it's just what was not really any part of

our lives a month and a half ago? Um? Yard work, sweeping, cooking, Uh, going to the dump dump McNerney would be our next child. Arcle comes old Dumpy McNerney and his friends. Simple syrup. Um. I think you know once again, like I said, you could be more poetic, Like I don't know, I'd be like, oh, I love that the house were in as lots of woodwork, and a type of wood is rowan, and rowan is a nice name something like that, um wood so Um. The other question was how long after having a child

did we get back into performing? How long after child? I mean you were back like immediately basically, yeah, I didn't really stop. I don't think. I took Britan to a reductor show when he was about a month old, and it was like my first big outing with him. Was it a month or maybe two months? But I felt so insane leaving the house? Oh, maybe it was. Maybe it was a month in that I did a show. I did a show without him. I think I left him at my such as apartment and I ran down

town to do a show. I was not more than like I guess I was like eighty blocks away, but it's still I felt like he was going to die. Every second I was away from him. I was just like, Jesus Christ, I need to get back. Why am I here? I was like, you know when you're like on stage and you're just like, I'm really weird. I haven't spoken to a human in a while. Anyway, you're trying to pretend to be a fake human when you don't remember

how to be a real one. I just like, the reason I'm acting like this is because my child is away from me for the first time. Like, I just like was very like literal, there's a lot of fight or flight signals going on. Yeah, anyway, I, um, but I'm not a super regular performer. I think I probably just did that to prove something to myself, like to prove that I would eventually leave the house again. Well, you mean at that point, I think you were excited to get out of the house. I think I was

like terrified. I think I like said, I like probably agreed to the show in advance, thinking like I'll be fine by then, and then I was just like, oh my god, what have I done? Um but I think it's different when you're a mom and you have a lot of hormones in your body screaming at you to hold your baby every second. Um. I will say the amount of performing that I did dramatically went down after that point. I mean not, I mean I still did.

I did one show a week for a long time, but before the all this happened, I was down to every other week, which was the least I have performed the last fifteen years. From some oh, now I'm doing two shows a week from my basement. What all I

will say about this, though? The advice that I gave someone else a while back is like if you're planning on going back to performing after you have a kid, I think it is important to realize that, like career wise or like joy wise, I think sometimes you can get what you need out of a less frequent performance schedule for a little while. So depending on whether this is like your career or just like a creative outlet or what, I think you can like cut down your

schedule a little bit. Yeah. I will say when I do get to do a show, I appreciate it a lot more because I don't do nine shows a week. Yeah. And I think like if, just for example, if you were hosting a show that was like twice a month and then you have a new born at home, it's like, no one's really going to care if you cut that show back to once a month. You know, it's just anyway. Um So yeah, Ronie, that's my my suggestion. What do you Rony? And we got some more listeners want to

know for you guys, We got some more. Here we go, Mother's Day question. Hi, Beth and Peter listened to your hundredth episode today. Congratulations, Thank you. I've been listening to you guys since the start, which was quite a while ago. Oh sorry, which was quite a while before I had my son, Bertie, who is now eight months old. I really enjoy the podcast, especially you're keen attention to gender and how you manipulate norms around it as you both parent.

I have included a picture of Bertie. I apologize to Beth that he isn't a fat baby. He's big though, ten pounds eight ounces that birth a million pounds now, I guess based on how my back feels carrying him around all day as some background information, and my wife and I conceived him using reciprocal reciprocal I F V, which means we used her egg and I carried him fun times. That is so cool. I gotta pause to show Beth, don't don't apologize for your baby not being fat,

and all baby photos are welcomed here. Oh yeah, no, don't apologize. Oh my gosh, we got a little redhead. Oh boy, oh boy, Bertie, Bertie boy. Um reciprocal I F I VF. I've heard of that, but I've not heard the term. That's awesome. I have a conundrum regarding Mother's Day, which I thought you might have some ideas on probably the whole idea of Mother's Day and Father's Day is quite heteronormative, but that hasn't stopped my wife and I from wanting to play along in some way.

But how do same sex couples participate in this tradition? I feel like it's not fair if we both have to quote unquote share Mother's Day, because it would be nice to spoil whoever special day it is. It would also feel very weird for one person to be assigned Father's Day, because the whole point is that neither of us is the father. I'm also very aware that I don't want to position myself as being quote unquote more

of a mother than my wife. Being pregnant and birthing a baby are not the best or truest way to become a mother, as evidenced by the many non gestational mothers I know, adoptive foster step as well as queer moms. Sometimes we think we should just come up with two whole noon days. Do you have any fun suggestions for a way to celebrate both of Birdie's mothers which I suppose could be applicable to any of your queer listeners. Also, what did you guys do for Beth's first Mother's Day?

Is it a big deal in your family, sending you extra love in these hectic pandemic times. Rosalie from Adelaide Australia, Well, um, that's a good question. I don't. I don't. I think that solved really depends on your preferences. Because my first instinct was like you just do like a week after Mother's Day the next Sunday and have that be like Mom's Day so that you each get your own day. But then I thought, maybe that's stacking the holidays too

close together, just in terms of family planning overloads. I think it has to do with how much you really love holidays. I think we wouldn't go for that. Um. I think we like being recognized and appreciation, but we're not huge gift and event. Yeah, we're not big like

like Valentine's Day or Mother's and Father's Day people. I don't remember what I did for my first Mother's Day, to be honest, Um, we've never done anything extravagant um um, but we That's when I was growing up, it was never you know, it was whatever mom wants to do, that's what we do. I remember as a teenager being really like mom wants to take a raft on the

mini ha ha creek come on. Well. So like in my family, Mother's Day is like a week away from my dad's birthday and then Father's Day is like a week before my mom's birthday in June, and so it feels both times I get just totally overloaded because like me and my sister are like, okay, we have to plan four guests right now, Like it just sneaks up on you, you know, I don't feel like super well, you know what I always feel about Mother's Day is

it's never about that one person because there's always so many people have to be have to spend a whole day honoring all the moms. So I never feel like I've been in a situation where all the attentions on one mom. So if it was us, we would probably just say, oh, would do the same day. What there is something really exciting. This is maybe not what you want, but in my mind, how cool is it to have a day where you go, hey, we're going to celebrate

our parents. Um uh, that's that's the unique thing. I'd never considered a day where we celebrate both of our parents. But isn't part of celebration like that someone else gets together the event or the gift or something for you, right, like if you have kids and then you're getting the gifts for them and then you know what I mean. It's like I was sort of picturing more grown up kids now that I'm thinking about it. Yeah, well you, I'd say, if you really love events to two things

spring divine. One you do Mother's Day, ah, and then in six months you do inverse Mother's Day. That's a bad name for it, bad Mother's Other Mother's Day, your Mother's Day, and you do other Mother's Day, and you alternate every year who gets to be mother and who gets to be other mother? What? Maybe you just call them both other Mother's Day, others others Mother's Day and the other other other Mother's Day. It's just a biannual.

If you picked two random days, you'd have to call it others mothers Other Mother's Day, and the other one is other other Mother's Day, or it's Mother's Day weekend and one of you is Saturday and one of you is Sunday. But okay, so if you do six months away, that would put Other Mother's Day in November, which is terrible timing. Well no, but there, but they lived down under, so it's it's better. I guess if they if they

don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Yeah, it's perfect. Well, that's a great question. I mean they did say Mother's Day's coming up. I assume Mother's Days. I don't know is that international holiday? I assume because you're writing about it. I think it might be one of those ones that has different days in different countries. I'm not sure. Well, they mean they're writing about it now, so it must be the same time. Yeah, in which case you should really try having Mother's Day

in the spring. It's way better than fall. Um. Yeah, other mothers, others mothers, other Mother's Day, others mothers who Other Mother's Day is when you celebrate moms that aren't yours, other mothers, smothers, brothers, the mother's brothers. Um uh, yeah, you know what it's There's there's no right way, obviously. I think you guys seem to. That's the way you were at this email. You've got a healthy attitude about it. Make your own traditions. Holidays don't mean anything universally. It's

the holidays about what your family makes it. Yeah. I mean it's like you could also just make it like apple picking Day or whatever. Thing is fun for you specifically to do to celebrate yourself being a parent. Um, yeah, other other the other, mothers, brothers Day. What was your favorite holiday growing up? I love Halloween interesting to fourth of July interesting? Um mine was Christmas was number one always, then my birthday, then Halloween, then it's then it's a

real then Thanksgiving and then who cares Fourth of yourly? Maybe? What was your Mother's Day traditions growing up? I don't remember. We probably had like a brunch or like, there was definitely a brunch involved, Like we probably made pancakes and gave my mom something, and then depending on the year, we might have taken her out to dinner or something.

I don't know, depending on the year, like if it was an even year or an odd year, but my dad, whether how much my dad got a ship together that year, I don't know. We probably all realized it was happening about two days beforehand, and then we figured something out. It was fine. That was that was about my family too. They're never a huge Mother's Day. Then just became, um no, I'm mixing up. I just suddenly had a memory of my mom sending me a cardon Mother's Day. But I'm

thinking of Valentine's Day. Don't let me forget to call only you could like come up with a memory a Mother's Day being about you. No, you know what I thought? Why? I thought that because on Valentine's Day, my mom would always send me a card and I'd always feel really bad that I, once again, like, didn't send her a card on Valentine's Day, So it felt getting a card for her. I have memories of feeling selfish she did not send me a card on Mother's Day, but that

would be even worse version of that feeling. Ah. Well, Oh, I almost called you Adelaide Rosalie from adelaide Um. You do you. That's what we say Adelaide. It's a really nice name. If Noel wants to use that, it's just very pretty. You could just because you so you never forget. Just connected to that podcast episode that you listened to right before you had baby during the coronavirus um old Adelaide pure El Denin. Well, this has been another episode

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