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No | Daddy

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This week Bryn learns about time, life, death, extinction, boobies and yoga, and then explains them all to anyone who will listen. Then the whole family agrees that everyone is welcome, except for Daddy.

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Speaker 1

I got to say, hello, welcome to We Know Its Parenting. I'm Beth Newell. I'm Peter making the podcast you come to to find out how not to parent? By example? Should that be? Should that be the tagline? How not to do it? This is how your parent if you want to funk up your kids. I gotta say, when we were first pitching this show and coming up with names, it was so it seems so cliche to be like, we're parents, but we don't know what we're doing. A

couple of knuckleheads. You know, branding is hard, we know, but we knows how to do it. We're so good at a thank you for coming to our show. We know it's parenting. Um, what a week? What are we? What a week? Uh, we're back in the group, we're parenting our kids. Where uh, figuring our lives out as usual, just going with the flow. Everything is like everything in the world right now is such an constant onslaught of Like I feel like this is a feeling a lot

of people I know are having right now. It's just like so overwhelming between the news and personal lives and especially being parents and just trying to process at all. Like it's just like, you know what, my biggest parenting challenge of the week was what talking my cab driver down from the coronavirus ledge. Yeah, I'm like, I'm not even really going to coronavirus town. Like, I get why it stokes on people's anxiety, and I feel it very blessed As someone who's very anxiety prone, I for some

reason do not have like super high germ of phobia. Um, And so I'm just like, you know what, they'll let me know if it's bad. If they don't let me know, Like, I just don't feel like the idea that I personally have control over this, I think is so egotistical. Because I ride the Metro North train to the New York

City subway at least three days a week. My children are in a daycare where they just rubbed on each other, or my son is in a kindergarten that all my children are doing is licking up terms all day long. But that's kind of the beauty of the coronavirus is that it's not affecting kids in the same way it

is other people. Supposedly, where kids like it's kids are not getting the same I've I've read a lot about it um mostly because I come from a place of I when people panic about anything, I roll my eyes and act like I know better, and then I'm like

I better read up on this. It's not like I don't necessarily think it's like rational to not panic, but I do think as a New Yorker or someone who's commuting into New York City, and it's like you can't go with the panic, Like it's just like the city has withstood so many bizarre things that you're just sort of like, well, how bad could it be? Like I do fundamentally believe that the city of New York could crumble into the ocean at any moment if the right

storm were to strike. But I don't think I personally have any control over whether I happen to be in the place where that's happening at the exact time. Like I just don't. And just you know what, if I'm meant to fall into the ocean, then that's that's how you want to go. That's your right, Yeah, in the salty the salty s And I think, like I'm not not going to wash my hands, Like sure, I'm going to wash my hands a little more and like try to be more aware of touching my face, which I

touch all day long. Hands live in my eyes and my mouth. We're just expressive, beautiful, thoughtful people. Our hands are constantly pressing our cheeks. Hands, that's how we communicate. We are full of hand to face. So here's what I will say. Okay, I don't think so. My mom's a nurse, so she's tried to tell me not to touch my face for decades. But it's so hard not to touch your face. So what I have been able to get good at over the years, I think is

that I touched my face. I touched my face more with my knuckles and not the fingers that are doing the dirty work. Because like the little kid tired eye rub with the back of your knuckle. Yeah, like just trying like be like, Okay, this part of my body is designated for gross things. This part is for clean things, like my knuckle. I'm not using the open doors, you

know what I mean. Like you could wash your hands in disinfect all day, but at some point you're touching a door knob, to a keyboard, to your mouth, like it just happens. Like so I just think I don't think I'm ever going to be able to stop touching my face because it's gorgeous and I love it. I mean you you sit there and just make love to your face with your hands, and it's very awkward to walk. It's just too natural to me as well. I went straight to the data and I go, what are the facts?

Give me the facts. Where is the data? And numbers numbers, and then want number everything and everything about everything. Everything I've read has made me worry less and less and less one. We're all going to get it. Everyone's gonna get it. It's super But also most people don't even know that they're going They get it in super mind. And this is the thing that I think people have to understand is it's not far off from a flu. Like it's like if the flu we're going around. Yes,

it is bad for more vulnerable people's. It is primarily people oversex divided with immune compromised immune systems. It is a serious thing to worry about. But the more data that they get realize they have no idea how many people really have it. And so initially they were like it's three death rate, and they keep finding out like, oh, there's so many more people that have had it. But

they don't get sick enoughter to the hospital. So the death rate has gone way, way, way, way right down, And some people think that maybe it's more like one point four percent, but every time I read about it, it goes lower and lower and looking more and more like the flu. And so you know, thousands of thousands of people die of the flu every year. So well, wash your hands, don't touch your face, but don't freak out. But I think where we should be really careful is

when we are sick. Is like, don't go to work, be really careful about washing your hands, don't shake someone's hands when you know you have a cold. Like that is where I think people like Americans are not considerate, like I'm already sick, who cares no, But they're like, we're just so selfish, Like we we as a country are the most selfish people in the world. Perfect segue to what we did today, which is I sent my sun to school sick. Yeah, would you frequently do? I mean,

I mean I play a part in it. I'm not I acknowledge that, but you do have a tendency to like this morning, when he was not wanting to eat breakfast, you were like annoyed and no part of you was like, I wonder if my sounds sick like I took his temperature, no fever. Actually he took his own temperature. Well he wasn't that sick, but he was like he knew he didn't feel great. So he's at atom A gay guiney didn't have a big appetite. And this will nurse, did

you call me in the middle of the day. What I was at an audition in in the Financial District couldn't have been further away. And I just got there. But those of you not in the know about New York City, the Financial District is way downtown and we live north of Manhattan in Westchester County. So um, I was eleven fifteen. I got the call from the nurse and she's like, Brent's in the office, size uh. Teacher said he's not acting like himself, no fever, no vomiting.

And then I was like, I guess I'll come get him, Okay, well yeah, and then I'll be there as soon as I can. That was two hours and twenty minutes. Because I will say from the working I worked in a nurse's office at a private school in Brooklyn, which we both worked at and the nurse's attitude like, and I think this goes for medical professionals in general. Is just like when six people are around them, they're like, we got a sicky over here. He thinks he's real sick.

But I've seen a lot worse like and like they're not like I think this might be an East Coast school nurse. I don't know. Well, I did work for a nurse when I worked in the nurse's office in Brooklyn. That was she was like she was. She was an emotionally abusive person who may or may not have been an alcoholic, and she was just incredibly negative because you

didn't say anything. She liked me until the point up until the point where I was just completely broken from trying to please her, and I was like, I was like, yeah, I need to not work here anymore. And then she was like she couldn't believe it. So she was not like this job, um, I was this is my problem in life as I'm too accommodating to people who are problematic. Um, And I'm working on it. I'm working on boundaries. But

she um, she was. She was overly dismissive. But I do think like a lot of verses and medical professionals have a similar vibe of like, alright, sure you think you've got something bad. I've seen all this. Like I do think this is kind of like a tone that's given to them in medical school or nursing school, Like it's just like a very patriarchal attitude. That's just like the customer does not know what they want, Like, um, I gotta say, Um, the school nurses I remember from

me growing up or not like that. Um, But that might have just minded my experience. I mean I had nice school nurses, but they always I always felt disbelieved, Like I always felt like they were like, Okay, your throat hurts, well, you can hang out here for twenty minutes and then you're gonna go back to class because you don't have a fever. I'm starting to I'm starting to build a picture of you as a little kid, assuming what I know about Maven was is how you are.

And there's a there's a version of Maven where she doesn't want to be prodded for information, and when you ask her questions really bluntly, she'll she'll like squint at you, and then it's hard to read what's going on. With her, and so I started to see like is this what all those teachers were seeing in Beth when they're like, does she have an attitude? I can't tell? Do you feel like? Because the world too women is like do you really feel what you're feeling? Or you an idiot?

Like that's I think. Sometimes she's like may even correctly sometimes when she's throwing a tantrum, she like very clearly is like I need this from you, as like I need you to help calm me down as a three year old, do you know what I mean? Like she's like what she's saying is m M, well, yeah, like no, but like I have I have seen her thrown tantrums where like I got mad, like when she was very young, and I was like just feeling very frustrated because she

was just like incoherent toddler. And then I was like I probably talked about this in the podcast before, but I was like, Mayven, what do you want? And then she was and then and then she goes, I want you, And it was like the most clarifying, like clear like I was like, she just wanted me to pay attention to her. It wasn't about like whatever thing she was

requesting or whatever. She just wanted me to like focus on her, and it was like like she, I know, sometimes she's just being a three year old and she's moody and tired whatever. But like sometimes I think she is just very like hey, she's like, hey, my big brother has been flipping out for like an hour, and

you guys have paid attention to me. I've gotten I mean partially she's grown up and show she can start to be able to let things go, which is a brand new She's approaching four and you can see it the light at the end of the three tunnel um and I also can see it coming earlier and get

out of the way. Yeah. Well, she's been so funny lately because Brent has had some like tantrums or like he'll be we'll be like playing and he's bossing me around and he's like you have to do this, and you have to do this, and Maven, we'll just cuddle up on me and be like zoobi gooby gee, and she interrupts his thing to just be goofy and like snuggle me, which is really like fun. I'm like, yeah, this is easier. And then and he's like I'm directing production.

He's like, he's like, you need to say this, and he gets so frustrated with her, like she just steals the spotlight and sort of a more effortless way. Boy, I tell you. So I picked him up and he was fine. He was just really upset that I took song. He's like, the nurse's office is so boring. And so we went home and he goes, can we go out to dinner? I was like, you haven't eaten all day?

Are you hungry? He's like, maybe, we'll see. So we went to a restaurant with Maven and he's he's a little bit like under the weather, but just that makes him calm and cuddly, and yeah, I kind of like that first. And Maven was really goofy and he wasn't bothering to argue with her for every and no reason. And it was the best dinner we ever had, and he ended up eating a bunch and we read books and went straight to sleep and everyone was great. We listen to music. Maven and I did more air drumming.

She's a good drummer. She's good. So night, Now you need to tell me the story on Brin's door. I came home the other day and I saw a piece of paper that said Bryn, Yes, this is taped to Brin's door. Says Bryn, yes man, yes, Mommy, yes, Daddy. Yeah. So okay, you got the short end of the stick,

because here's what happened. It was like, okay, it's kind of it felt like kind of like the Democratic primaries where okay, Bryn was like throwing a tantrum for some reason I can't He probably just didn't want me to turn the TV off or something, and he was just like being horrible, and I was like, you need to stop. You can't be like punching me. Whatever. He's I'm sorry, we're watching TV on a school night. I go away. No,

this is Sunday night. Um, so we're this is He's just like losing it and he probably did watch too much like YouTube that day whatever, But it was just like once again, we are tired parents and sometimes you have to have a lazy day and everyone is lazy. Um, so he was kind of losing it. Bullup sound installation blanket has fallen off the wall for the second time in two years. It's about to get very echoe in here because the wall is exposed. But you can hear it.

I don't even need it out there. Okay. So Bryn was freaking out and then he's flipping out and I was like, I am he Oh, he didn't want Maven to read her book. He wanted he wants to be the boss of bedtime and like do the book picker line where he lays the books out and he picks the books and he narrows it down to a category. And like I was like, Mayven wants to read this new book that she has not read a lot, and we're going to read it. So I took her in the other room to start reading it. And he was

still flipping out. And he found like a piece of paper and wrote uh yes, Bryan, no Maven and taped it to the door. So this is like his latest thing. Yeah, this is like the latest one. He wants to make the rules. He wants to explain things he discovered. He can make signs. Now, He's like Martin Luther nailing his thing to the church. He's like, I have I have discovered the written word, and this is my form of protest.

And so he was like putting this sign on the door and then he like maybe he was like May even can't come in here, and he was like trying to force the door closed and I was trying to put it open, and May even, which I was very proud of her, she just like ripped it off the door, very like sassily, and he's like, maybe I come in here, and he's like she was like, Brin, I took it off, and they're like both fighting, and then like they got

in this much longer fight. I can't I was probably like restraining him or something, but he oh, he like ended up as I was trying to restrain him in the bedroom because it was like probably a half hour past bedtime or whatever, and I'm trying to keep them in the bedroom and explained that this is bedtime while all this is happening, and they're like, um, Barrin is like flipping out and I was turning the lights off and he hurt himself and started crying. So then he's

like crying as like finally starting to calm down. And then Maven has like been getting into like mad at him, trying to make her own sign and getting a pen and paper and just insisting and she's trying to write and she's trying to get me to like explain how to write her her sign, which this is what kept happening to me during this is like they were fighting against each other, but then they would very quickly quickly form an ally ship if they could like extend the

lack of bedtime. So Brin was like, I'll help you, Maven, and he started at length explaining to her how to write no, britn yes Maven on a piece of paper and he spelled out every letter for her. I have this on video, I have I should put some of it. But because he's like, okay, that write this, and he's like this as he's like wiping away his tears from the tantrum and hurting himself, he's like someone is whose listens to me? Yeah, He's like, let me tell you

how to make the signs. And then and then he was like as she finished it and taped it up, he was like, okay, so I have to correct it. And then he was writing like he got out of his red editor's pen. Yeah. So then they both had to make another sign and it was like yes may Haven, yes Bryn, yes mom. It was meant to be like reconciliatory.

What's the word of reconciliatory, reconciliation, and they like but then at the end they just had to pick a common enemy and they were like, no Daddy, and they and so they're like, there is so Brinn wrote that and like put big boxes around everything and put on the door, and Maybn was like she just wrote like yes, maybe yes, burn or whatever on her piece the favorite and I was just like, oh my god, go to bed and came home and saw it and just flumped

my shoulders, crawled into bed. Yeah. Well, unfortunately it was like once again, it's just it's like a lot like the Democratic primary, Like I had to get something done and I had to pick a side at the end of the day. And I didn't like, I want to single you out as a problem, but you are the bloomberg of this situation. Lisa let me um and yeah,

everybody hits bot um um. Well, he made a new sign tonight and he color coded them all and it's still yes Mommy, yes, Naven, yes, Bryn and no Daddy, but he colored my green and I was like, I don't get to go in and it hurts my feelings. He goes daddy, Daddy, Daddy, don't worry it's only on St. Patrick's Day. Oh you know what, I'm just realized that he was asking me, Daddy, what color is Easter. I was like, why he goes um, never mind, and now I know why one of them's Easter. Cool. That's the day.

There's no mommy, that's right. Yes, although it says yes, you are only get to go in on Easter, I guess you got to do all the bedtimes and wake ups and now it's time for We know it's what they're watching. This is where we talk about our children's media consumption habits beeth Okay, So I wanted to talk about these YouTube yoga videos that Britt discovered. I'm actually completely blanking on the name of these yoga videos. It's like super Yoga. Yeah, it's like super Yoga Kids, nitro

Cosmic Kids, super Yoga. I think that's what it's called. Um. Anyway, So Britt was me this thing the other night before I realized about this YouTube channel where I thought he had been going to like a yoga gym class or something, because he acted out to me as if he were a yoga instructor an entire yoga class while I was on the yoga mat and it was actually really good, and I felt like I was like, this is like a good yoga class, Like this is the cheapest yoga

class I've ever Well, he was going through like different like yoga poses, but he clearly knew a kid version of them, and I didn't understand where where he had learned this, but anyway, he like was like, Okay, we have to do our dog poses. So he was doing like downward dog, and then when he when he would have me do upward dog, he would say I was a wolf and then he would ask me to howl, and he would add these little details that I felt like actually accentuated the goal of the pose in terms

of like lengthening actually translated a physical thing. Yeah, Like it felt like it was helping my body, And I was like, this is in some ways better than any other yoga class I've ever taken. But he like he kept doing all of these posts and he does one that he showed you the other day, which I think

is so funny, where wow be quiet theory. He does a vampire posset where he lays Shavashna on his back and like puts his arms across on his chest like a vampire and then you sit up and then you swivel your head to the left and then you grin huge and he raises his eyebrows while grinning, and it's so funny, and like, this is what's funny about the whole The way he was teaching me the class is like he kept doing these accentuated facial expressions like the

woman on the YouTube video, and he was just so engaged in holding your attention. And he would do this thing like at the end where he'd be like waving and he'd be like he'd be like oh, he'd be like thumbs up, great job you guys, all right bye, and he would wave goodbye, and the showmanship was just so funny. Like you thought he made all of his up at a certain point. No, I thought that when

he was at school he learned a gym class or something. Yeah, Like I thought he was at a gym class and his gym teacher did like a yoga instruction and I was like, she's good because he was like the way he was doing it. I was like, this is really engaging for kids, Like this is great. And then I asked him, I was like, so do you learn that at school? And he was like, no, I saw it on YouTube when I was at Nana and Granddad's house,

and this is a video he watched with them. So I was like oh and then so then I was like I wanted to I was curious what the video was, and we watched it on YouTube, but the actual video was actually very much less engaging than what he was doing. Yeah. Well, when I went in, they were watching it and not doing yoga, and I was like, well, this is why I hate YouTube. Well, he was refused, so he was refusing to do it in front of you when the YouTube videos on, which I thought was really funny because

he was doing it before we were watching it. Yeah, and I said like, I asked him a question about why he didn't want to do it, and then you were like, Brenn, are you embarrassed? And he turned to you and he goes, yes, daddy, thank you. He plopped down and rolled his eyes and looked at me, and it was like half start sarcastic, but truga, yes, daddy, thank you. I was like, I was trying to remember. I was like, I had a vague memory of something

that funny happening. I could remember what it was exactly that it was just so funny though. We Yeah, he was like, thank you for acknowledging my emotions. Oh my god, I just reminded me of something very funny. Briant said that I actually wrote down um So burndon Maven. We're doing belly bumps. They're like brand belly bumps and they're bumping bellies and giggling. I was like, this is very cute.

And then Maven took her shirt off, and then Brin took his shirt off and they're doing I was like, Daddy, naked belly bumps. And then Maybe was like, let's get naked and do belly bumps. And I was like, yeah, you know what, Okay, I think I think that's good. And then Brin and then they just started like looking at each other's naked torsos, and then brit started talking about boobies. He's like, look at your boobies, Maven, and

she's like, these are my boobies, right, Daddy. I was like when they're just like pinching her nipples and I was like, well, those are your nipples. And then we got into a conversation about boobies, and I explained when when boobies happened, and what the difference is. They were trying to play again with me the other night where they wanted to be babies and drink from my and they're like, and Maven has been doing this thing this where she takes off her clothes and it's just in

her underwear to try to be a baby. And I was like, you don't, no, I don't want your mouth like on my boob, like and I was trying. It was like, well, this was after brit So brit you know. I explained that when you know, many girls get older and grow boots and then Britton, uh Brin said, I wrote this down. Yeah, daddy, I know when girls get boobies their nipples look broken and creepy. They also look like they're not nipples broken and creepy. I kind of get it. And I was like, it's like, what are

these and why do we love them? You know, he's talking about your boob broken? U must have seen other breasts. I mean probably. It is like whenever I'm trying to get dressed around them, they are like locked in, like they're like what is going on over here? Like burns rut of the age where he's sort of pretending not

to look. He's looking. And maybe maybe if I'm ever peeing in the bathroom and the door is at all open, Mayven bursts it open and she comes around and she like puts her hands on my leg like she's like a like a burglar scamp looking around a corner on a French street looking to pick some pockets. And she looks around and just it's just like locks in and watches. It's a it's a most vulnerable feeling. This is what our friend Nick's daughter Reya said to him. She did

the same thing. Is she's much younger. She's too, she's too and she she said, that's your butt. It's like that's what they're doing. They're like, what the heck is that? Like they're just but they're broken and broken and creepy. I mean, someday you'll understand, but society is no rust rush to teach you. So I might as well give you an eye fall so you have some sort of realistic expectations the other really, so, the really interesting thing I did today with brand Um is he was asking

me about years. He keeps trying to tell me that George Washington is not dead, but he's not the president anymore. And I was like, well, he'd be two d and fifty years old. He goes, he's still alive. He'll die on his next birthday. Okay. So we started talking about years, and I go, do you know what year you were born? And he's like, no, it's and you can tell sort

of an abstract concept, but he knows it's tonight. You want to get in a time machine and he goes, okay, so you, me and mommy, we all live in this apartment. And I started listening things he knew, and I was like, Maven was born before, No Maven, just Mommy and Daddy and baby Bryn. And he's like, face lit up. He was like the time that was perfect. I was the center of the universe. Anden Brynn was born, and mommy and daddy moved to Merrinick and then mommy daddy lived

in Brooklyn, and he was into this. I went all the way back to nine, which is when my my, one of my grandfathers was born. That's when we stopped a hundred and one years earlier. But I will say in the middle of it, we got into life and death in a big way. Uh, like him realizing I got I like I marked. I was trying to find interesting things that happened in all these years. So I got to my the death of my grandparents and like,

and ended with their births. We also talked about your brother who passed away in two thousand three, and so get ready for bread. He brought it up, or he brought it up. Well, I was talking about years that people were born. I didn't talk about that on the way down. But then I got to like eighty three, and I was like, because I kept going, and then

Ali was born. And then before that I painted picture of what the family looked like, and I was doing it with mine, and then I started doing with yours. And so I mentioned his uncle his uncle, and he is at the age where he had questions for the first time about that, and so I explained it to him. So you get ready because he's going to ask you about this, but I was it was the very straightforward it.

We're talking abo that. But then we talked about a million everyone in our family that he's ever been aware of it all, and sort of starting going backwards all the way to his great grandparents births, and I talked about World War two, and like the Great Depression because I was running out of things to talk about it for each year and he was locked in. And I feel like time suddenly he had some sort of reference for it, or maybe I'm reading into it and he

just likes numbers. I mean, I do think he's fascinated, like by the idea of there being things he's not aware of. Like I think I said a couple a few weeks ago when he said something where he was like, I'm sorry, I said I knew I knowed everything. I don't. But when he said that to me, I'm sorry what

I said, I knowed everything, but I don't. But the day he said that to me was the same day or like the same week that he was learning about like Martin Luther King and like Martin Luther King Jr. And like black history stuff where he like, for the first time in his life, he was like hearing this thing about how like people weren't nice one time, you know, Like he was just like, oh, I thought everything was good, but oh, you're just reminded me where This conversation about

years started as we were reading the book about extinct animals. So we read the descriptions and it explained that they died out almost exclusively because of humans, and so Britain was like, that's so mean, why did that happen? Spoiler alert, humans are the bad guys. Yeah, we found an animal that was extinct went extinct in two thousands seventeen, so that's where this whole thing began. It was a big, big sick day for Brittie Boy. Yeah, that's a lot.

Still as a process, I just want to say that we have made really poignant references to both Martin Luther King and Martin Luther in one podcast. Wow, Full Circle Circle. This next segment is called Listeners Want to Knows. That's where we take questions and comments from you guys. Uh. This email comes to us from Samantha. Subject line Listeners want to Knows. Way to use this segment title love It. Hi,

Beth and Peter. I've been listening to your podcast since our foster son came into our lives a year ago. He was four days old and I was desperately searching for any and all parenting advice. Your podcast is the only parenting podcast I still listen to, and I'll continue to need it since we just started the adoption process.

I love you guys. Wow, Um, here's my listener desperately wants to knows Connor is one year old now and all we hear from doctors is all the solid food he should be eating and all the words he should be saying. Yikes, this kid apparently loves baby cereal and puade food. Do you have any uh? Did you have any struggle? Uh? Here? And what did you do to get your kids to make the switch? Any tricks to try?

I'm asking all my friends and trying everything. Side note, he babbles all the time, so I'm focusing on the food thing right now. Shameless plug. My new pregnant niece will be getting there's no manual for her birthday next month. Spoiler Samantha. I can't share him on social media yet, but I know Beth likes a good baby picture, so this is for you guys. She included, Oh he's so cute. Oh my god, he has little he's like a tiny

pudgy la Keith Stanfield of a baby. Oh my god, I wanna you wanna you want to devour those cheeks. He's like he's he actually he looks a little bit like our old our nanny's baby son. That we met after she worked for us. That is a cute cut um. I liked that. Also. I assume Samantha that this is you in the picture. Her face is cut off and it's just her smirk. It is a proud It is a proud but humble smirk. I mean, you'd have to

be proud of that little man. He's alright. Real questions in here though, Okay, the real questions about eating solids. I will quickly say. About the talking thing, which you don't seem concerned about, and I don't think you should be, is both of our kids were totally different. Bryn talked forever, but not with real words. Yeah, he was like that what is it okay? Um? And Maven did not speak until she had concrete words. Today, she was clear and direct.

She would be like no serial banana um. She Yeah, they're very different. But what I would say about like the first year or so of parenting, I feel like your people fill your head with all these goals and milestones and things that seem important at the time. I even think this goes into like second and third year of having kids. Were just like some kids start talking later, some kids start crawling later, some kids have trouble gaining weight.

It's like a lot of times I think in retrospect it is completely meaningless, and like especially the one year mark, there's so many things they get measured at about one year. The walking and talking and all that stuff happens, but it's like such a slide scale. Yeah. I mean my mom when always held the story growing up of taking my brother to the pediatrician at like ten months old or something and she was like, can I start feeding him solids? And the pediatrician was like, you're not feeding

him solids? Like and he was like a big fat baby and he had been just like having pure breast milk. And it's like you're not like hurting you know, like that much. It's just like human beings are more resilient

than we realized, especially when their babies. Like you'll, I think when you take them to the doctor at their one year mark, you'll know if there's like a serious problem, and like all this other stuff is just the Petertrison is trying to like find some feedback to give you, but it's not like they're also I found patrician there immediately giving you things that they said to a more panicked parent who was trying to like, why isn't this are sort of defensive and you're not even you weren't

even a part that kind. Well, I think we have a particularly good pediatrician who's very like non alarmist, so he's always like giving a caveat that's like, I mean, it's not the end of the world, Like, you know, he's not like I don't think he's trying to scare us too much. But I'm gonna miss him when we move. Yeah, well we could drive two hours. Well I don't see him because you take the kids. But I appreciate that he's a fan of mine. Yes, he loves you. He

loves redectress um, but yeah, I don't know um. But I read this and I was like, it's incredible. Again you've said this. If you want advice on a from parents about kids at a certain age, it has to be within the last year. It's like, when did we switch to solid foods? Do you remember? And what was like what were the staples, what were the go to That's the stuff I'll never be able to tell you, like with accuracy about like the rules of the first year.

Like I feel like it's like they can have honey. After like nine to twelve months, they're like, they don't feed a baby, honey, it'll it'll multiply like a gremlin. Yeah, exactly, don't get don't get them wet after midnight. But they turned into the baby from the Dinosaurs TV show. I'm the baby. Um. I remember that. There was like three years of our lives where all we ever fed our kids was Annie's shells and cheese with with peas. Yeah, and it was like we were like, well, at least

the peas are real food. We're doing all right. Like there, that's like what I am still feeding our children at about that level. Like my my exhaustion level like week to week is like at least sevent that level of cooking, which is just like here's some nuggets, I'm throwing them in the oven. I'm ordering food. I'm doing like I'll give them fruit or like try to sneak a vegetable in. But like for the at least the last I would say six months, you're the only one who's cooked like

a real meal for our children. It's true, and I aim to get back there. I just don't like, how about with a new kitchen. With a new kitchen, maybe I just haven't had time to like think of a meal, go to the grocery store by said ingredients for said meal, like the number of steps it takes. That's why I love Americas. That's text kitchen best simple recipes under thirty minutes.

And I usually have enough in greed and then there's like five I do over and over because I when I'm at the grocery store, I'm like, oh, I need salmon, chives, butter, that's it, asparagus um. But what did I remember? What one years old? In that high chair? What did we throw down on that on the It was like fifty blueberries, so many blueberries, um, and just yeah, it's all gonna be tiny cut up stuff. What did we do cut up? Like we just cut the chicken chicken. I remember we

started doing meat and that scared me so much. I cut it so tiny. We were cutting a lot of things very tiny for Britain especially, maybe not so much. Like here's a chunk of cheese. Yeah, she was like hardy, she was like, I'll figure it out. I made them grilled. They've never liked grilled cheese until this this weekend. They've had a weird thing about grilled cheese that has been driving me crazy, Like I only offer it every month or so or less because they're so weird about it.

But I'm like, how do you not like grilled cheese? Because Brince said he didn't like melted cheese? And I go, okay, how about I grill it? Watch me? And I had him watch me do it, and then he was like, oh, this is just a bunch of melted cheese. For a while, he also had a thing about like case ideas where he would get any remember, like we used to try that a lot, and he would just like always. This is probably back to my mom being so annoyed that I didn't want to eat this thing that was unhealthy.

Oh it's flawed, and she's like, you gotta let you love the flaw on. I'm like this is gross, and she's like, it's so bad for you, you've gotta like it. It's like and I had the same feeling. I was like, I'm so angry you don't like grilled cheese. It's terrible for you. You should love it. Yeah, they're just yeah, you can't. You can't reason with these insane little people. Yeah, I'm on there a no list for crying out loud. Um, So, do we have any tricks? Fruit? Cut up fruit? Yeah,

it's really at that age. It still is to a large extent, like practice at eating like that, this is not like gonna be you know, you're just throw them little bits of whatever you're eating, and then when they don't eat any of that, give them fruit and garbage, you know, give them puffs. Like it's not like it is that thing that we tried to do. I don't know. Sometimes we were getting more work, which is that like just whatever you're eating you just said that, just like

throw a little bit on their tray. But they're just not rational human beings and you can't like, don't beat yourself up for their logic. But it was it's again, other people's advice is not gonna solve this problem. It's gonna be trial. And like we we stumbled upon things just like throwing things at our kids and one day they ate like a blueberry and we were like, that's it. We've solved it right. Well, and kids just like fixate

on certain things. We were just like, okay, if that's the thing, and I can get some food in them today, great, Like currently our kids are into sticky rice like they like are like, that's what they stipulate when we like order foot and the like. How did you guys come up with this? I didn't even hear that, right, I don't know, but this is that's what they get when we're ordering food and we are just tired. And I got salmon, and may even got a little pizza, and

she ate my dinner. She's like, can I have your salmon? I was like, she seems to like fish in general, they like salmon. They both will eat that. Um, give him salmon. Salmon just falls apart. Let's look at the picture of this baby again. Should be I know you guys can't see it, but just listen. Try to see this baby's face by the sound we make when we see the baby. Ready, one, two, three, He's so cute. That's a good pose too. He's like innocent, but a part of him is also like I see, he's just

like an old soul trapped in a teency body. And I love him. I mean, we love him. Um, he's perfect. I do I want, really want to continue to encourage people to send in photos of their children. I don't want. I don't mean this sound as angry as I did towards the listener who didn't send a photo of the baby he described as his large son and I but there's still time. I forgive him. There's still time to send me a photo, and we will not post them. This is truly. We won't post your photos on the

internet that everyone is too scared to share. Um. I mean, we'll post pictures of our kids. It's all we've ever known. We're shameless and we have no sense of security. We're I'm We're gonna have kids online and coronavirus in our bodies. Yeah,

I mean, no no boundaries, we know, no bounds. What part of how I feel about the coronavirus is that, let's book end of this podcast with I feel like, given my given our disgusting pale bodies and are my in particular horrible allergies, the universe owes it to me that I think my ancestors survived plagues and this coronavirus is not going to take me guns. Germ is in steel. Yeah, that's the Europeans conquered the world because we we're so

gross the plague. I do think I believe that my ancestors are among the most disgusting people on the planet in terms of germ sharing. The French in the middle of the plague Middle Ages. White people and still I mean white people for much of history are among the worst at spreading germs. We are filthy. It's the geography. It's not the people, but the people are a results of the geography. No, it's not just the geography. It's like like white people throughout We're gonna end by throwing

all white people under the bus. No, just historically we are bad and we need to own that. White people historically, like throughout colonization, like they mocked medicine and things from other cultures. So like black women were doing c sections

like sterilized in Africa like thousands of years ago. But people up until the Dred You can watch the ken Burns documentary on the Mayo Clinic and the Mayo brothers or whatever their names are, they like Joey Mayo people people in America at that time, we're willfully not washing their hands before performing surgery because they wanted to mock this new information about how germs might be spread. And they're all like brand known is the spirit of America.

And I am going to wrap up this podcast by saying, go wash your hands, even if it's not about you getting sick. Yes, I will say, as much as we are making light of the coronavirus, there are people with serious h compromised immune systems who are older than Some people have compromisedmune systems. Some people off tiny babies into your elbow, Into your elbow if you feel, don't buy a mask. You don't need a mask, but cough into your elbow, your hands. Vote for someone who wants universal

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