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What? No, that's not how this works?

Yo, what is up, people of the internet? Welcome back to another episode of the Waveform Podcast. We're your hosts, I'm Marquez. I'm Adam. I'm Mariah? Right. I don't know setup today. This is is this you know how when there's like a new sorry, it's an NBA podcaster rating. When you have like a new lineup that's not It's like ten seconds.

In the playoffs. Like for the first time, the Sixers probably did this. You have a lineup of like a group of people who have never played at the same time together. This is like the current arrangement. Yeah. I'm supposed to be on the bench, but for some reason they put me over here. But you've been I I think it's been you've been there, Mario's here. No, David was here, you were there. Yeah. So it's it's like a shuffle.

Yeah. Listen, we're down by thirty, it's the fourth chord, we gotta try anything. Yeah, it's a Tuesday. It's great. Uh today we watched the And Red Show, so we've got all sorts of thoughts on all of what they've announced. We also can talk a little bit about the death/slash rebirth of Fitbit, because that happened. And also we have a game that uh I have no idea what we're actually. Me neither. But there are buzzers here. Yeah. So it surely will be fun.

Ellis yesterday like hey how's how's the game coming along? Do you need me to like prep anything? And he's like That makes me a little bit nervous. Excited but nervous. Exactly. But first, did they even test this? This is uh Here Ellis has one. Yeah, an Ellis special today.

Well, now I'm like scared to do did they even test this? Because the last time I did it, I was the one that did not test it and was was proven wrong. But I have recently switched back from Apple Watch to Garmin as my fitness tracker of choice. So you're on Android now? Bye-bye. Um I don't know. After the Android show today. Um I've so I've been trying to link it with my Strava. And uh which has just proved to be like a death defying nightmare. It's been a mess for so long.

And it just results in this thing where this like endless loop where I go into the Garmin app and try or I go into Strava, the Strava app. Mm-hmm. I I have to be really specific here. Go into the Strava app. Hit connect device, choose Garmin. It opens the Garmin app. The Garmin app is then like, okay, let's now connect your Strava and Garmin accounts. I'm like, bet. Then it goes to Strava.com where it makes me sign in for some reason. So I sign into my Strava.

Account on Strava.com and then it goes, Great, we're in. Now we need to go back to the Garmin app. And then I go back to the Garmin app and the Garmin app goes, it failed. So did you get in? No, I've done this about fifty times, like hoping that it goes differently or something. Um so

They were supposed to have fixed this like a few years ago. They did like a whole announcement post about it. Yeah, like literally like two or three years ago. They were like, Oh no, we're now connected with Strava. You no longer have to worry about this. But I guess I guess it's still an issue. Damn. Yeah. Yeah. That blows for you. Tested it. There is one other thing that blows for me. No. No. Guys. Ha ha ha. After several weeks of the Funeral.

Of hopeful bliss, I would say. The Philadelphia 76ers have been knocked out of the NBA playoffs. After an amazing first round, they were swept in four games by the New York Knickerbockers. Like you could be sad or you could choose to revel in what an amazing year we had. We watched Vijay drop thirty over and over again as a rookie. We watched Andre Drummond to learn how to shoot three pointers. We watched Kyle Rowry say goodbye to the NBA. Thank you.

Damn. Maybe. We watched Nick Nurse develop complex systems, and most of all, we watched the greatest hero in American history, Joel Embiid. Overcome. Philadelphia seventy sixers. You timed that so perfectly. Did you practice? No. Also for all of our uh Scandinavian slash Nordic Audience members who are confused why I used a Christmas hymn for that. Uh I just like the way it sounded and they don't know anything about that stuff. So nice. Wow. I don't know where to go from here.

I'm trying to make a broom pun to move to the next thing. I don't know if I can think of one. Who else swept the stage? Yeah. Some air from Google.

Uh okay, so the Android show, the pre-I.O. Android show is this week and we we talked a little bit about it before how they were sort of hyping up. Same is one of the ones on Twitter who was like, This is going to be one of the I think they said the biggest update to Android yet. It's a lot. It's a lot of hype, a lot of promises.

Uh but we finally did get that promise and they gave us this wonderful forty five minute video of very human uh presentation and uh a ton of new features through Android, Android Auto, through Gemini Intelligence, and through uh So we'll we'll talk about all of that. We gotta censor you saying c though. Why? Because that's what they did during the event.

Google Books. Right at the beginning he tried to leak Google Books. Oh. And he said it and then they bleeped it. And he was like, We could fix it in post, right? And it was like one of those like haha, I'm a person too. I make mistakes. So human, Google.

Um yeah, that was great. Anyway, so let's talk about Android first, maybe? Sure. Because that was so we're looking forward to Android updates. Android 17 is what the new version is going to be called. Um they did the thing, first of all, that they do every time where they're like,

All the stuff is coming first to Pixels and Samsung Galaxy S. Yes. So some of us in here are very happy about that. They uh they tend to do that. They tend to put Samsung right at the forefront of a lot of the software stuff. Cool. How do you feel about that as a one plus boy? I'm a one plus fifteen user. I do have a mention of that later in this. Um, but yeah, it's fine. You know, we'll get that stuff eventually. Okay. At some point. Some point. Yeah.

Um, so here's a couple of the things that we got. We got some slightly updated aesthetics. We got a lot of the Gemini stuff is what's updated aesthetically. So a little new animation. It's a little bit glassy, but not really when you're talking to it, then when it's thinking, then when it's executing. Yeah, that had me nervous for a second. I thought they were doing a whole redesign. It seems to be just for Gemini, right? Yeah. Just like it's not.

Long press the button and Gemini pops up or you're doing something with Gemini, that's what the redesign is. Yeah. And spoiler, a lot of what's new with Android is Gemini related and that's why they're calling it the biggest update yet because AI big. AI very important to Google. Um I some of the stuff that was interesting. Screen reactions I thought was a cool uh feature. So you know how you see one of those uh

Instagram or TikTok real videos where it's just a person in front of whatever they're talking about. That's like a mode built into the camera now. You can just do that. It's great. Unfortunately built into Android. Yeah, I think this is gonna be a It's gonna just make that format so much easier for so many people. Yeah. It's great. Listen, do you guys follow Cardi B on Instagram? Cardi B. Think so actually.

Okay. Well she has these like weekly rants where she's just talking to the camera on Instagram and just going off about whatever's going on in her life. Just loves this. It's very entertaining. She is gonna use the hell out of this, assuming she ever leaves iPhone. Yeah, yeah Yeah, she's gonna have an Android phone. Yeah. People that do that kind of like content, this is gonna be Paris Hilton's gonna be making videos with this for sure.

Surely. Paraselton was promoting. Yeah. Um, there's also some more plugs with things like Instagram. So some of this has existed already in the past, but some more native integration with using the camera built into Instagram. You can have HDR content supported, you can have all of the processing supported, uh, which is nice.

I remember they did this a few years ago with Snapchat, I think it was, where they like implemented the Google camera directly into Snapchat so that it wouldn't be Like quality. Yes, I do remember this happening. Yeah. It had a name and everything and they and they were very proud of it and it was just the pixel and now they're doing more of it. So Also Samson. And Samsung as well. So great. That's coming to the forefront. Um there is a feature called pause point.

Yeah. It's an interesting implementation. What you've probably already seen on the iPhone is screen time, where you can specifically decide to limit the number of minutes, let's say in a day that you can spend on a certain app. I mean Google has this too though. Yeah. Yeah. The what is it called? Digital well being When you get to the end of that timer, it kicks you out the app, you can't open it anymore. Or unless you decide to bypass it, whatever.

This is a new version of that that is a little bit more of a fifty fifty split. It it's you open the app that you want to have restrictions on. And then it shames you into closing the

Once you're in it, it pops up this pause screen and it it tells you like just r remember why you're here, remember what you meant to do when you opened your phone. And I think some of the examples were like you can scroll through pictures of your pig or something while you remember It was like a cooldown timer first. Yes. Yeah. Twenty seconds or something. I don't know if it after that then it shows you pictures of your loved ones. Yeah.

Yeah. So like think of who you're disappointing here as you doom scroll. Yeah. One that was like, have you can have you thought about your goals? Like I know you're about to open subway servers, but have you thought about grinding right now instead? Yeah. Don't you want to be a productive person? Is a different take on limiting your screen time. Uh

I don't know. I d I'm not gonna use that either, but some I know that you're very anti the I guess if I was someone who was already trying to rely on screen time, I would find this maybe refreshing or at least interesting and different. I'll report back in a I the digital well being restrictions literally do nothing for me. Same. I think they've mentioned something about

It also restarting your phone to like disable it or something. So like another thing to have to bypass it, it makes it harder. Yeah. Um, I don't think it's like hard this will stop me. I'm not gonna lie. I thought if I was a Google lawyer, that whole section would have made me sweat both. Because like because like six weeks ago, Google lost a ginormous court case that they can be found liable for making addicting products. They got sued because of YouTube's algorithm being too addicting.

Alice, you think that the different parts of Google talk to each other? As soon as like a Google employee was like, Do you ever feel like you're using your phone without thinking about it or like you unconsciously pull out your phone? I was like, that's kind of uh you admitting it's a little addictive. But it's fine'cause now we can watch YouTube in the car while we

Listen, the product people make things, the lawyers lawyer it out. That's their problem. Product people are like, I'm just gonna make this. I feel like there's a couple apps that are really associated with opening it and then mindlessly scrolling and then forgetting how much time you spent. And those are Instagram, TikTok, and Twitter. Yeah. You're sorry. Right. And now you can do less of that. Or you could just uninstall. If we're to bypass all of it.

The whole thing of this product is like you have this impulse to open your phone and they want to make you wait like ten, fifteen seconds to just like see if that's actually what you want to do, right? Do you know the other thing in American society that you employs that tactic? Firearm sales. In like a lot of states, if you want to buy a gun, they make you wait like three to ten days to be like, are you sure you actually need a gun? Yeah.

I was like, that is a weird thing to use the gun strat for. I guess it's an impulse buy for Maybe the wrong reasons.

I think we should have that for microtransactions. We should have a little cooldown timer. Yeah, I wonder can you put this per you have to be able to put this per app, right? Yeah. So I can like set this on I don't know, like my text messages or something. Why would you want to put it on? Not that I would want to, but you could in theory. So we're going to be able to do that. Yeah, yeah. Mom texts you, you're like, I can't. I can't right now. And then a picture of her like comes on the screen.

Yeah. I actually like this feature because I like you Mariah, I've tried these digital wellbeing like timer block things and it just doesn't work. Like I can very easily just unlock it, put my fingerprint, whatever. Um Giving me that little slight pause to be like, Are you sure I think that's gonna work? Because I'm gonna be like, No, you know what? You're right. I'm I don't wanna do this. It's fine. Like I have that tick and this will stop me from doing that tick.

I feel like everyone has the moment where they're on their phone and they're like they snap out of it. They're like I why am I here? Where and what are we doing? I think that's that that's valid'cause people they get to that point and it's been like ten minutes and they don't realize what they were just doing. Yeah. Because I also think there's a lot of people who have the screen time thing set.

But the muscle memory is just to open it and immediately bypass it. Yeah. And so you're in anyway. Now this will interrupt you. Before you get to that point of ten minutes later being like, Why is it dark outside? So it's it's different. Yeah. It's different. What app are you putting this on? Me personally? Yeah. Oh, I have just this whole thing called like discipline. Right. Okay. You have an internal timer that once it hits five minutes you close the app.

Well if I have something to do, I do that. I just maybe it's just me. But if I've pulled out my phone to do a task, I'm pretty focused on like getting to do that task. And then maybe I'll doom scroll. But But how long are you doom scrolling for? Like you don't fall down a rabbit hole and just wake up twenty minutes later. Of course I do. It's not gotten to the point where it's like, boy do I need a feature. Yeah. To show me pictures of my pets or something. You mean our pets?

Yeah. So, I don't know. Maybe I'll get there. I'm like halfway between you guys. Like I never doom scroll for more than like forty five seconds, but when I'm having a bad no discipline day, it is sort of like I do forty five second doom scrolls once every like six minutes. Yeah. Yeah, like So yeah. Okay, we're built different and you know, that's fine.

See with me, I'm like one or the other. I can either scroll for like forty five seconds and be like, Yeah, I'm done. Or some days I will get on the couch and I'm like, I'm not doing nothing tonight but scrolling. Like that's it. My next two hours are gonna be down this TikTok rabbit. Yeah. If it sees you scroll for like whatever, let's say you're in that app for like thirty seconds. Pro uh yeah, I didn't show the UI, but maybe it'll let you set the time.

This reminds me, isn't there a thing on the iPhone sorry, this is a tangent, um, that tells you you're holding the phone too close to your eyes. Turned on. I think Marlena tried that once and I I don't know how I feel. It's supposed to be close back up. It's supposed to protect you and probably a lot of younger people who are just like this. Yeah. Who are holding it right up to their face. And maybe if you do that too much, that's bad for your eyes. So just sort of I could use that feature.

Yeah. To not do that so much. Yeah. I think the one other big feature here in Android is airdrop support coming to way more devices. So Airdrop and Android are now compatible essentially, at least, well, in both directions, I think. Uh and it is out the gates now for S twenty six series, Pixel Tens, Pixel Nines, Pixel eight A, Oppo Find X9 series, and find N six, Vivo X three hundred Ultra, and coming soon to a bunch of others, including my OnePlus 15. How long do you think that is?

I have no idea. I'm not hold I'm not crossing my fingers. I d I I literally use blip for that now. I'm not like reliant on it, but it is neat that that is one of the things breaking down the ecosystem wall. It's weird I don't see the pixel six on this list. Yeah. When are we gonna get to older five? All the way back to eight A. That's the like oldest one. It's not bad. I wonder why. It can't be like a hardware limitation.

I don't know. You know, it's funny when we did that, like shooting every single iPhone photo uh from every generation from seventeen to one. Yeah. Getting the photos off of the iPhone was really easy from the iPhone seventeen down all the way to a certain phone where airdrop was no longer a feature. Which phone this is a random trivia question. Which phone do you think was the first one that I couldn't just airdrop it to myself? Mm. iPhone seven. I wanna say. I'm just gonna say eight.

I don't actually remember exactly which one. But it was like the four S. It was like really far. Okay. Really far and Andrew had to go from like plugging him into the computer back. Crazy. Have you ever had to root around in like the um iPhone folders on like a PC before? That's what we had to do for the first it was really. It's miserable. Very tough. Rough.

So okay, how many people here use Android Auto? That was the other big update. I do. Every day. Pretty big deal. Android Auto got a really big update, probably bigger than the rest of the updates to Android itself. Yeah. Um the aesthetics, the visual updates. So it's got this lane guidance now. It has this three D view with way more detailed topography and mapping stuff, overpasses, bridges. All right. If you took Apple maps and like Tesla maps and make them how to be.

Yeah, it like Apple Maps had a lot of this unique, not cartoony, but sort of like 3D look to it. And now this has a lot of that too. It's funny, it feels like it was inspired by some of those like social media posts that are like putting Apple Maps and Google Maps side by side. So now it's got it's got all of that.

Uh and it also has way more features like the ability to watch full screen 60 FPS videos in whatever screen is in your car that has Android Auto on it. But I think that's only when you're parking. And probably specifically for electric cars, like when you're charging. I really hope so, because otherwise it makes no sense. I'm gonna test this immediately. I'm gonna find out. No. No, but like I have Android Auto in my car. So you're just gonna like park it and sit there and watch a U

I want to see if it even knows if I'm in park rate. It probably does if happens. Wait, well it has GPS so it'll know if you're moving or not. Yeah. Smart enough to at least it turns down my media when I'm in reverse, so it probably knows if I'm in park or not. So they did have a UI thing where when you switch into drive, it moves that video off screen and continues playing the audio in the background.

That was cool. That's the thing I have the most questions about. Because one, if it's Android Auto, not like built into the car, how does it know you switched into drive? Yes. Like your your phone doesn't know that your car switched in a drive. Yeah. You didn't start driving it. Two, I thought background audio play was a YouTube premium feature. Yeah. If it's on a non-premium account, does it just pause? I'm not sure what happens.

I think the YouTube premium play was only when you like lock the screen and the screen turns off. So if I'm watching a video on my screen, turn the screen off, the video pauses. It's playing on the car screen. Yeah. Which never turns out. Uh but it does hide the video. Yeah. It hides it over and not just UI thing, but you know. In the in the phone world, that's kind of the equivalent of like turning the screen off, maybe. Weird. I'm not really sure how that works yet.

Didn't they say it was with m like certain partners? Maybe that's how it knows that the car is in park and stuff. Yeah, it was I think there was like sixteen different brands. Yeah, something like that. We'll have to see. Yeah. But I I am curious to see how effective that is. Um but yeah, immersive navigation with redesigned visuals and yeah, widget Zoom in the car. You can do zoom on the screen in the car. That part was crazy. Zooming in the car?

Never I've never wanted to do that. You can do that in Tesla's already. I've also never wanted to do that in my Tesla. Uh long time. Never wanted to do that. I assume that's also audio only. No. Video while driving. Not while driving. I don't think I think that should also be. Yeah. Didn't clarify. But it should also be well parked. It's probably

Um but yeah, taking a meeting in the car on that car screen. They made an interesting point. They said that the the speakers in your car for most people are the best speakers you own. Dude. I've never thought I knew it. I knew I wanna hear your take on this, but my first reaction to that was like that might be true for a lot. Yeah, it is it's definitely true for a lot of people.

So now that that line with Paris Hulton of like, My car is my personal movie theater. At first that was really cringy, but then I'm like I mean the screen's not good, but it is the it is the best speakers you have. So I wouldn't I would say that's accurate. I would say so. But why would you watch a video on like a little four inch screen? So the video part gets weird because

The Bluetooth lag is sometimes pretty dramatic. Like I don't want to watch a movie with a second and a half of lag to the speakers. So then I guess I do want to watch it on the screen in the car, but that's never a good screen. Ever, ever. So I don't know how I feel about watching a movie in the car. But if you're charging and you're sitting there with an E V for forty five minutes, maybe waiting for a charger and then it's a slow charge or whatever, it's a way to burn the time.

Ellis is gonna watch Dune on the big screen in the car. That sounds pretty fun. Just like I uh you know, when you're learning how to do audio stuff, especially music stuff, like a big part is learning how to make your mixes translate to a car. The car test baby. like check stuff in a car because car speakers are like universally the weirdest.

Like this like the way something sounds in a studio, it'll sound kind of similar in a lot of speakers, and then in a car it'll sound completely different somehow. And so yeah, definitely hearing. But I guess compared to almost any sound bar, probably a car is like better. Yeah. Most people only have sound bars in their home.

Yeah. Bam. Yeah. That's sad. Way to bum me out. So big Android uh update Android auto update coming. The last piece of the puzzle though is Gemini Intelligence, which of course they're probably gonna talk way more about at Google IO. Yeah. Uh but we did get some new Intelligence features. They kept calling it an in what did they say? An intelligence feature. Right. It's an intelligence. Mm-hmm. Okay.

So what's new? So what's the intelligence system? Uh okay. There are more agentic features from Gemini. It can take action for you. through your apps and use your apps for you. And also some smaller things like autofill, like uh better speech to text, where it removes a lot of the filler words and you can speak in two different languages and it'll it'll work at the same time. Those were probably the best use cases of these new features. I think the smallest ones were the best one.

Like they should have leaned hard into those'cause that's like everyday life things versus their weird examples that I'll show you I'm sure you'll bring up. But like yeah, using Gemini to book concert tickets or something is just insane behavior. That was my okay, that was my take. So I tweeted this. I tweeted just a screenshot of the Google slide that just said, Book two floor seats to this concert.

And then in the video, the person just clicks it and then that's the end of the interaction. And they're like, Yep, yep. Got the tickets. What? No, that's not how this works. That's also not even how I want it to work. I want to shop around a little bit. I actually want to engage with this. Yeah. Pick the seats I want. Yeah. Pick the best deal.

Like there are there's way more nuance to it. Now I tweeted this and Dieter replied, he said, Well there's only so much we could fit in a sizzle reel. Of course Gemini Intelligence leaves the user in control for the final checkout process. Mm-hmm. He linked the article that describes it, but I also don't see anything about the final checkout process in here. So I'm curious to see what the rest of the checkout process looks like.

Because like if they're showing this while you're driving your car, they're showing you can do all of this while you're doing other things, how thorough could it really be? That's the other thing is how much do you trust it? Because look, I've grown up now in the age of AI making lots of mistakes. Old.

And it's getting better, yes. But I'm very familiar with AI hallucinating things and making lots of mistakes. So when when people say like booking airplane tickets is a big screen activity, I think what they really mean is like, I wanna make sure I'm doing this right and actually getting what I want here. And doing a single button press in Gemini and then maybe two or more steps in a checkout process still doesn't feel like quite enough.

It feels like when people have like a Google Home or a different like home device and they're like, I don't know, buy me this thing and there's no follow up. It just feels very just like Yeah. I want it now. Mm-hmm. Yeah. For some people that's gonna be fine because they don't care which version they just bought or how much it costs or whatever or how how fast the delivery is gonna be or any of the other steps, but yeah. I think I don't feel like I would do that.

This is just gonna be weird too because there's so many concerts where you end up like waiting in a queue, you know, like you have three hours of waiting before Exactly. Yeah, Gemini. Jim and I'm gonna s be on Ticketmaster, like refreshing like the rest of us. They need to come up with better examples. Because they had a couple others. Yeah. One of them was uh look at the syllabus and buy all the textbooks required for the semester. Yeah. Like that.

Ah man, I don't know. I just I it's not fun to shop for the best deal for textbooks, but I don't want to just buy the default. Who can just pay anything a student? Yeah, I really I think I'm gonna look at the listing and then go look on eBay or look on Facebook Marketplace for last year's semester, like students who are selling it. Like I I don't know. No. Just wait till you get to class, ask who has the ebook. Yeah.

And then get the drive link. I'm very interested in the demo they had for the food um delivery where they were like, You know what I order from the restaurant? But double it. You know what? That one

That one was close for me. That one was the closest because I do have I have a restaurant near me and I have two things one or two things that I always swap between and order from there. And I have this whole ritual where if I'm like fifteen minutes from home, like do I feel like cooking today? Not really.

I will, not while I'm driving, but at a red light, I'll open the Uber Eats app and go put in the order and and go for pickup. And then when I'm at a certain light, the same exact light every single time, which is exactly eight minutes away, I hit order at checkout. Oh, and then when the light turns green, I know that when I arrive they're finishing my order. That's so crazy. You have it that well timed.

So this is a routine enough thing that in theory I could just be driving in the car and just say, Hey G Order the thing. Yeah. And uh it could do it. Which I think could be helpful. There's been times where I've been on like a road trip and I'm like I am driving still and I can't

stop because this is like a nine hour drive and it would be nice if my food was waiting for me at a future destination. But I that's pretty infrequent. And also I guess it's picking this information, I assume, from your email or from texts or like receipts. I don't know. What's up? I would imagine past orders as well.

That's what I'm saying. Is it pulling the information from your email? It has to be pulling it from somewhere, because how else would it know? Like it doesn't have access into Door dash or doesn't I think it's Gmail. It has it has access into wallet Gmail photos and some other Google services. But they did say they were partnering with Select. It was like DoorDash and someone else. So some kind of backdoor into DoorDash? What should I do?

Maybe. Before they did all the featurey stuff, they did the um sort of that sort of like sizzle reel, you know, that intro cinematic. And uh a lot of the features they were sort of talking about in that seemed to be almost like open claw y. Like when the command was like

keep an eye on this merch thing. That's the kind of thing that in order to do accurately, I would assume it would need to get prompted twice a day, three times a day in the background, which is like sort of what an open claw product is for. But they never actually said like it can do heartbeat style. energetic prompts. And so I'm curious if that's sort of like something they're planning on adding. It should be able to. I've had GPT do that sort of thing before.

You can say like just recurringly do this and let me know. Yeah. Oh really? Yeah. And it would like twice a day give me a like a notification of the thing that it checked again. Yeah. Oh interesting. It's possible, but yeah. What was it? Buying all the things like tours with no Oh, it's just like look at my Expedia like booking and like book a tour for five people or something. Yeah. Like just pick the best one, Google. Yeah.

You might get like the one that has open seats which isn't very good because the good one is full. I I'm not really sure what it's gonna pick for you. I I want to do that. I will never get I don't think that technology will ever get to a point where I will have it plan an entire trip and me just be like, sounds great. It seems like the it's the example every time. I want to go for a trip. Plan a trip to France and it just starts doing stuff. I I simply cannot imagine doing that.

What's the future of Google's ads business? I believe it, but I just We're already seeing like the birth of the the AI SEO sort of industry of these ad agencies that are like, We will boost your rankings on GPT and Claude and stuff like that. And I think this is the future baby, is like buy this thing and then the AI goes Who paid me money to say buy this?

I I feel like I want the AI to kick in like one step later in the process. Like I want to do some of the research and I want to decide which exact item I'm going to buy and then throw the AI in. Which to be fair, that's one of the things is the improved autofill. Yeah. Which it's going to be able to take information from what it knows about you, from your wallet, from your photos.

Let's say it needs a random driver's license ID number or something for some random purchase. I don't know why it would do that. Your passport. Your passport ID. That was one of the examples. But like it could throw that in there because the improved autofill. It can take care of that for you. So that's the point where the AI I think would be very useful for me. Yeah. But that's just one step for you.

forward to that. That autofill thing looked really dope because I spend way too much time filling out different addresses. Even with the autofill by Chrome and all this stuff, it still takes too long. Mm. Yeah. So if there's a way to just have AI do all these generic things, go for it.

I feel like the thought of this would freak my parents out. Like I don't think there's some people who I feel like would not want to have their personal information. Um I assume there's ways to opt out of all of these, or is there? You I would hope so. I don't know. Don't know. I think it would be opt-in. Well, at least the the way it's been treated so far is I had to tell it to access my Gmail and all that other stuff. So it was opt-in.

Give it access to everything. Yeah. My calendar, my Gmail, all that. But I mean, hey, it's there already, use it. I've taken a picture of my passport before. That's the thing though. Here's the thing. I have my current driver's license that I've taken a picture of. I also definitely have a picture of my old driver's license. Is the driver's license number the same? Maybe it is. If it tries if it pulls from the old one, is that gonna be a problem? I d I don't know.

Well that was my question with they had an example with Magic Q and they were like, Oh, I'm going on a hike and I was going back and forth with this person and they asked they texted me the address and with magic queue I could just press the button and send them the address.

And that has not worked for me once. Yes. Every time because it's like I'm going back and forth with the person and we're discussing multiple places. Like, oh, do you want to go here? What if we meet there? What about this place? And every time that magic cue button that pops up gives me one of those places and not the one we settled. I don't trust it.

Like those little things like that where it's not gonna understand that we I just said, Yeah, let's do that one instead of putting in a whole address. Yeah. And it just doesn't understand.

And then when it gets it wrong, it's that one little thing where it's like, Now we don't want to trust it anymore. Where the person literally is like, Where are we meeting? Oh, magic cue. I just send the response. And then you get there and they're like, I'm fifteen miles away because you sent me an address on it. Oh my god.

So T B D on testing all of that stuff, but the last thing we got a little bit of a sneak peek of uh is Google Book. Yes. Google Book is They they hyped it a lot like it's a brand new concept, but to me it felt a lot like Chrome OS Plus. Okay. Like it's it's a Chromebook with Chrome OS. It has Android apps, it has a premium build, as they say, and it'll have a little light bar. It'll be made by one of several OEMs, HP, Dell, Lenovo, Acer, Asus.

And it runs this more Gemini centered version of Chrome OS where it has essentially the magic pointer on the top of it, which you wiggle the the click, the cursor. And it becomes a little multimodal portal into Gemini. You can click a photo, learn about it. You can click several photos, combine them together with nano banana. You can ask it to rephrase some text that you highlight with the cursor. It's just a your cursor becomes this portal into Gemini.

It's a cool concept. Um Why a new product category? Yeah, why Why is it? About. This is just Chrome OS. It's just an update. And the Chrome OS Chromebooks, like the more recent ones that were really good, already could run Android apps. Yep. In the Play Store? Yeah. I think there may be a distinction between emulating the Play Store from your phone and actually running the app on the laptop. Okay.

Um in the p like you know, you can like mirror your iPhone on your on your Mac. Same thing with like you can use apps that are on your phone and access files that are on your phone from the laptop. But I think that might be a slight distinction here where it's actually running the app on the laptop instead of running it or mirroring it from what your phone is running. Then how does it have the data from my phone? Um other extra connection between Is that not-

Your laptop. Okay. I don't think that part is new. Yeah. But yeah, now it's like, oh, I'm writing an email. Let me just attach a file that's from my phone. You can just drag it from your phone. So this might be a stupid question, but did they kill Chromebooks? I was wondering. It seemed like they killed it. They never mentioned Chromebooks, so I assume they didn't kill Chromebooks, but this is a new concept to Google Book. Okay.

I do like the idea. Like when when I saw it I was like, Oh that's cool, like premium hardware. It's the same reason I was excited for like the old Chromebook Pixel, like the nice premium laptops that are tied into all my Google stuff. I already have the Android phone, the Pixel phone, whatever, like just Put it all in one place. I like that idea. I'm just confused about the whole new branding around Google Books specifically. Well who is this for? Who's y who's buying this?

That's what I want to know. That's another good question because we kind of know what a Chromebook is and a Chromebook historically has been a cheaper like entry into the Google ecosystem for students and a lot of people who just need like a web browser and that's basically it and they have some apps on their phone. Mm-hmm. A more premium version of that means higher price tag, potentially higher performance, more interesting features.

But what does it do? If you're having a higher price tag, I need it to do real work things. It's an air. Yeah, it's built it's the first laptop Wait, let me take the exact quote. It's the Is there a price point for this either? I didn't see There's no pros lit. Uh this the first laptops designed for Google Gemini intelligence from the ground up. Does that mean that it can run Final Cut or Adobe Premiere or Or definitely design. Really doubt that.

Or even outside of like the creative uh video editing workflow, like can it do I don't know. Like this this is not it doesn't feel like a competitor to the MacBook Neo. Like it it doesn't even feel like a similar because that's like their budget item and this feels Completely different category. This is the I want to use Gemini more than the average person Chromebook. is me. I would like to do that. You need a whole separate computer?

That's my point. Yeah. Like I should be able like why can't I just install an app on my current computer that does all this? Yeah. Why why is this not a software update to an existing Chromebook? Yeah. That's that's what I would like to know. Like, what is the benefit of me buying into this hardware system? Cause it's like I'm buying a whole new laptop. The glow bar. Yeah. And we're also going to get the glove bar. what it does what is the It just glows. It just glows. It just looks nice.

If it literally just glows, I'm here for it. I think it bitterly just a nice looking. Like that's not the only thing it does and then they like didn't elaborate. I could be misremembered. Got it. It seemed very ominous. I was taking notes, so I might have missed some parts of that, but it seems like it just glows. If it literally just glows, I'm here for it. That's so just why not? Why not? Yeah. But I'm just like I'm just confused about this this whole thing.

Yeah. I'm not sure what the use case is and I really want to know how much this is gonna cost. I will try to get my hands on a Google book. I don't know who's gonna make the first one. I don't know if it's gonna be HP or Asus or Samsung. Probably HP. Yeah. We'll see if I can get my hands on Google. What was the first one? Wasn't it Acer? The C one hundred forty or something like that? Yeah. That was unbranded.

Wait. I don't think they ever said like an OEM. I thought it was literally a logoless matte black featureless laptop. Just what you want. Oh no, that was Acer. That was Acer. Acer C R forty. Okay, Acer made it. Was there a logo? Are you looking at pictures of it? Yeah I'm looking at pictures. I don't see any pogo. The first ever Chromebook. Oh. You can see how they got me into Chromebooks because they made a featureless matte black.

Sleek. And I was like, All right, I think I could get into this. And then you tried to use it. Yeah, it has like one gig of RAM in it. Yeah. So I love Felix. I used one for all throughout college. It was awesome. But then I graduated and I had to do things for work. And I was like, now I can't use this computer. I need a new computer. Yeah. And if I'm gonna spend like, I don't know, let's say it's what, fifteen hundred?

For a premium, they kept saying premium, so I'm assuming it's gonna be expensive. Really dream. I picture when they say premium, I pictured a thousand. A thousand and s I mean that is premium, but I mean you get a MacBook Air for that. So For this? And they they didn't announce any other specs. No but the MacBook Air don't jiggle, baby. Oh, yeah. Globar. Premium could mean anything. The the typical Chromebook range is like two fifty to five fifty. Yeah. Six fifty maybe.

But this isn't a Chromebook Marquez. This is a premium hardware. Right, premium hardware. But that could just mean more metal than plastic. That could mean like a better keyboard deck and a brighter screen and stuff like that. It doesn't necessarily mean like high end specs and tons of RAM. I think that's exactly what it means. I think it just means metal. Yeah. Yeah. Seven ninety nine.

I don't know. I don't know. It's gonna be it's gonna be interesting to put this alongside Chromebook and see what they actually do differently. Yeah. That's what we'll see. We need David to test this. David, come home. Speaking of David, you know what he's not here for? Trivia. Mariah will have to wait so you What am I planning for? You played for Andrew last time? Yeah. So you'll keep playing for Andrew. I love it. You're in David. ご視聴ありがとうございました You should play for David.

Okay, sorry. And I'll play for Andrew. Okay, you play for the person whose seat you are in. I'll play for Marquez. That's fair. You play Adam will play for and Do you want to play for David? I wanna play for me. Okay, there's gonna be a price is right rules question. So closest without going over. Seventeen ninety nine. Sony is known for choosing very bad names for their products because the names are overly complicated and filled with Rise though. Crazy. Yeah. Google has the opposite problem.

Where their names are so simple they often overlap with one another and become confusing. That's funny. How many Google products and services Have the word book. Oh, God. Is there a limit? Prices are right rules. Right rules and I'm just gonna give you guys one hint right now. The Chromebook Pixel is only one. Even though the twenty thirteen and twenty fifteen Chromebook pixels are different devices, I'm counting those as one device'cause they have one Wikipedia page.

And these are products and services. So remember, just to kick it off, there is now the Google Book and Google Books. And these count, like these current releases. Mm-hmm. You're adding these. Yeah, yeah, like I said, both Google Book and Google Books is on Mm. The list. David, you're not gonna get any points today, I'm sorry, brother. David is somewhere yelling at his phone because he actually knows the This is the one he was made for. The service does not have to be alive still.

No, it does not. Oh no. That's also true statistics. And remember, there can be letters immediately preceding or immediately succeeding the word book. It can be blank, black, blank, book, or book, black, black, black. Like books later. Okay. All right. Alright, well we'll think about that. We'll try to be prices right accurate. Answers at the end like usual.

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Welcome back. All right. So on the production calendar, we have had this day there for a while because this day is podcast recording with no David, no Andrew. This day comes every year. And you know, us, we thought what better than a game and today for the first time I have my compatriot Rufus, who came up with this amazing game many weeks ago and we have put it into effect. Do you guys remember when we did Family Feud and we asked the waveform audience to answer a bunch of questions?

Yeah, we did. Mm-hmm. Well we bring you today. An even better version of it called All the It didn't time this one very well. Reddit Family Feud. Oh, yeah. That's like Reddit Family Feud. We found nine Reddit posts on Reddit.com that had answers that we thought were funny, interesting, bad, uninformed, informed, whatever you want it to be. That's

We gave them to I don't remember which AI model, it might have been Alibaba's Quen. Quen, I think. I think I think it was Quen. We gave him to Quen and we said, Quen, perform sentiment analysis. And let us know what the most common or upvoted answers to these questions asked on Reddit were. So the way this game is gonna work is we're gonna redo the Reddit post.

You guys are gonna have to guess what is either the most commonly answered thing or the most commonly upvoted thing. And we'll let you know before each question. This is a this is an upvotes one. This is a a a sentiment analysis one. Okay. And uh I'm just gonna give you a quick example. This first question we're gonna do is why do people hate Apple so much?

The number 10 answer on the board, uh so the this is a most commonly answered one, the number 10 answer is lack of innovation year over year. Um nine P. That was number 10. was the least that that was like of the top ten the least answer. This is like daily tens but in real life. Yeah. So if I had answered that, I would get how many points?

So I'm glad you saw that'cause I was about to bring it up. The last time we did Family Feud we used a linear, straightforward uh answering system that I think we stole from I can't remember how they do scoring on the TV show, but Um, you know, like if you answer the tenth answer, you get one point. If you answer the top answer, you get 10 points. This time we said increase chaos by a lot.

And the points are based on how common that answer was. So if you had gotten that answer, lack of innovation year over year, you would have gotten nine points out of them. If you had gotten the number one answer for this question, which I will not read right now, you would have gotten 58 points. Oh, my God. Damn. This could get out of hand. This will get out of hand. This will get out of hand.

That's kind of the point. Okay. Um so the way we're gonna do it is you hit your buzzer, it locks everyone else's buzzers. And then um you've got the chance to answer. You'll either get it right or you'll get it wrong. If you get it right, you get to make another guess. Um, and if you get it wrong, Then someone else can buzz it and steal it. I'm gonna go nine for nine. You guys are not gonna be able to answer. The segment will be over in about three minutes.

And if you guys are somehow like prime brain redditors, like you just can guess what Redditors are doing, then we'll we'll turn on the you could get three guesses and then you're not allowed to guess on that question anymore. But I think we should be good as is. We may need to test this out and just see what the I don't know how to decide who I guess I've done a good amount of Redditing in my day.

Yeah. So why do people hate Apple so much? Someone buzz in. Me, Adam. Why do people hate Apple so much? Because it's expensive. It's expensive. Ding ding ding. Number one answer. Yeah. You can see us again. Yeah. Eat my bubbles. All right. Hm. Oh we're No, no, you had the you got it right. You don't have to buzz again. Oh, okay. So I can just keep going. Okay, okay. Um so then the next most common answer by Redditors is because it's ass. Because it's bad. I don't think anything Rye.

Sorry, was that preemptive? It was, but Ryan will let you answer. Um, can I say they break easily? Lack of repairability. That's funny. So that's people No, yeah. Yeah. One but Marquez, you disbud is in and you did say not repairable, which is the third most high said thing on this question. There you go. Wait, so did I not get any points? No. Wait, you just said yes to all of that and then It was I don't think the whole game is going to go like that. Yeah. Are we still going?

Yeah, are we still going? The colour. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. I think Marquez got that right. Going. Okay, sorry. The board is yours. Uh user hostility. Ga explain what you mean by that. Uh ecosystem wall. Yep, the walled garden ecosystem. Twenty nine points. Interesting. Um what about like uh not available in my er yeah, not available in my region. Mm-hmm. Unfortunately I do not see that. They're trying to get themselves into every reader. Yeah, yeah. Ugly. Yeah. I'll go.

I feel like Reddit would say that. No, people think they look great. Lack of customization. That's a good one. No. Come on, Redditors. Uh lacking in like updated specs. They never have the biggest batteries or the highest numbers or any of that. No. No silicon carbon, you know. Okay, wait. Uh hmm. Let's see, let's see. No game. No games. No way. Gaming limitations. Number four. Gamers spend twelve hundred dollars on GPU alone counter argument. Thanks. Gamers cannot afford that.

A lot of these are you're you're answering these questions as if the Redditors would give the actual answers. Yeah. But a lot of these are just L LM. Responses. Yeah, okay. Well it's things like a a lot of these are I don't care, I'm gonna talk about something else. Okay, so I'm gonna have some of them are a little bit of a left. If you said why do Apple products suck so much, why you know, what is the the the second highest answer on the board would be Not quite. I don't know. They're not.

They don't like Tim Cook. Would it be they don't suck? I just bought it Which one you want to give him? Oh, I thought this was an example. Give it to s give it to six. Okay. There's there's the number two answer on the board. It's sort of a slight variation on that, but it's slight enough that I think it deserves its own thing. But next time let's make sure we're using the buzzers folks. Okay. Got it, got it, got it. I need to think like a reddit.

Wait, so what was your most recent answer? What'd you just say? The it doesn't suck. It doesn't suck. And the answer on the board was build quality and reliability is actually epic So we have both sides. We have wait we already say like Right. So we have it doesn't suck, but do we already we already have it sucks, right? Question mark? But why it's why does it suck? They just don't like it. Not on the board. No. Siri is goaded. Not on the board, damn. No creo que nadie piensa.

I think they would say something about the pretentious attitude of presenting everything as revolutionary when it's not. That uh I would say that is Damn. Tribalism slash platform wars, that feels damn that feels on on on point. Can we say like explicitly better than Android? Nothing? That might have I might have given you tribalism for that. What was this Reddit post again? It was why do people hate Apple? Oh that's right. I thought that was an example question. Yeah, that doesn't count.

Were we getting points for that? Yeah, And it's a closer game than you would think. Really? Whoops. Okay. Oh boy. Guys, after that first question You said this is a close game? Adam, you are in second place with ninety points. You are in first place with 110 points. Okay. Admiral. Kyle holding up the caboose with zero points. It's okay Mariah. The questions you guys left on the board were uh number nine Hating popular things makes them small.

That's the one that's number eight was an HP Elite Book comparison. And Number two, the variation on they don't suck is people who hate it haven't actually That's a good one. Fourteen people commented about the HP Elite book. What forum was this on? Uh Reddit.com. R slash max. Oh. Oh yeah, we should read the subreddit. You're probably talking about the neo or something.

Guys, this next question is. Yeah. Okay. No. I'm ready. Guys, let's just give it up for Rufus. This is this is Let's go. Do that. Um kicking off this next question, very similar. This is on r slash computers. Why does everyone hate Windows eleven? The ads, bro. Number ten answer ads in the OS. That's number ten. Yep. There's worse. Bugs. Yeah, that is number eight. Damn, okay. Really not that fine. Worse than Windows ten. Okay. Um the aesthetics.

Mm. It's not very clean or polished or good looking. No, I'm gonna give this in. Okay. All right. Privacy. Yep. Privacy is yeah, what number is that? Four, five, the number five answer worth twenty-seven points. Damn right. Um okay. Next up after privacy, the obvious answer is build quality. Uh this is Windows eleven, which is an operating system. comes on laptops. AI. We hate AI. AI is the number two answer. Thirty eight points, she is officially here, folks. Nice. Right, you have control.

Oh no. Uh we hate McAfee. Good answer. No. No one saw that. Uh Uh wait wait wait wait wait bloatware and AI features were bundled into one. Unfortunately, yes. Uh No, it's fine, yeah, whatever. No Mariah gets the ghost though, she has control. No, I went wrong. I was wrong'cause I said Yeah but it was like the sam Oh we're bundling it. Okay, okay, okay. Um

Oh man, I never thought I'd make it this far. Um We hate Windows 11 because of the we already s did we talk about the tiles? We said you said design or UI, right? I did. Tiles we we see in tiles on here? Okay. We gotta we gotta explain this. Okay. Marquez, you said the design and we said no. However, UI changes are on here. But I do believe tiles was brought into the Windows picture in Windows 8. So but honestly, just to make it a more competitive game, uh let's keep an eye on the point.

We're so back. David, I'm gonna make you proud myself. Yeah, you have the control of the board once again. Other things that we hate. Um The number one answer is still on the board, folks. I got this. I got I know what it is. I feel like we've said all the main things that we don't like. We did not. What else is there? I'm going to start a five second. So many things. Right. We don't like the game hub. It's terrible. Yeah. We actually do like Windows. Good yes. Then that was my guess.

Can you read the the thread again, the title of it? Fred again? Why does everyone hate Windows eleven? Okay. COPILOT Bundled into AI features. Because they all use Macs and they're too dumb to learn Windows. I'm trying to think like a Redditor right now. Well yeah, okay. Great point. Think like a Redditor, because Linux is better. Mm-hmm. Ah we miss Windows ten. These are all Damn. We're better Redditors than Reddit. Yeah, that's crazy. Okay, wait. Mariah.

What's that weird thing that like screenshots your whole history? We don't like that. No, that's um Is that not... Uh no, it's called recall. It's also written down in that same answer. Okay. Okay. We've hit the number two answer like five times. Number one. Nope. Damn. You're missing a few textbook classic Microsoft complaints. Oh we said AI already. Uh because they Didn't add I don't know. But right. We don't like Microsoft? No. System requirements. We don't trust Microsoft.

No, it's still too general. What? Windows do that you hate. Yeah. What does Windows do that you wish it didn't? 'Cause it doesn't oh, that's different. I was gonna say it doesn't have all the Apple apps in Final Cat stuff like that. Okay. What does it do that I should do? Mm-hmm. What does Windows do that you wish it did not do? Incomplete. Random forced updates. Yes. Is that number one? Number nine. Number one's going to Something insane. What is number one? Related to Microsoft?

Yeah, wait. Okay, maybe we should brainstorm. Marquez, you said you said bugs, right? Earlier. I think that might be the number four answer. I think that'cause it's talking about I think he's I Yeah. That's true. What about Microsoft? Specifically. What do we not like about Windows eleven? Oh yeah, Windows eleven specific. Andrew's like screaming at home. Yeah. This is the Oh. Marquez. Drivers. Oh. Driver updates? System requirements. What what about say explain. Say more.

The minimum system requirements are always so high. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we'll give it to you. No, the number three answer was hardware requirements forcing e waste from O. Older could be. Unsupported PCs. Whoa. Shout out to Reddit for caring about E Waste. Redditors love the environment. We still don't have number one. That's insane. That's crazy. They're all banging on their keyboards right now. Yeah. It's gotten too expensive. No. I think I just Damn it. What do you need to run Windows?

You need a GPU. I don't know. Can't get one of those. Yeah. No. What's funny is that this is something that you also need to use a Mac. No. No. I'm confused. Never mind. Yeah. Guys, I think it's time to wrap this one up. I don't know, man. Yeah. Tower, PC Tower. Number one answer, forced Microsoft account requirement. Oh. Awesome. On the board, number four, broken updates and system crashes after patching. And the number seven answer: we hate OneDrive. Get rid of OneDrive. Okay, yeah.

What's so funny is the number one answer is the reason my dad won't use it. He complains to me all the time about That is the number one thing I was annoyed by when setting up a It's so fleeting. It's just for such a short period of time. It's like an hour. Yeah. It's like the first hour you own the thing.

So we're gonna move on to our next point, our next question, and to round out the points we have Marquez in first place with 187. Oh my god. Adam in second place with 117 and Mariah rounding at the back with sixty-one points. If we combine our our forces we can be. Yeah. Real quick. I just wanna make sure something I just wanna make sure everything's right. Adam, can you look at your camera real quick? Yeah. Bring Andrew home. Bring Andrew back. Oh God. What's the next question?

This one is the one that David will be sad he missed because it is from our solo traveler. Oh I thought it was from R slash analog. Why are you laughing? As he's solo traveling right now. on a solo travel right now. That's funny. Peak design backpack. All right, well No. No. No. Does anyone else want to try and repaul this one? There's no penalty. There's no negative. Yeah. Right. Lonely Nope. That's all there? Okay. Too expensive. The question is, do you bring your laptop on trips?

No. Yeah, you gotta give me more though. No, it's too heavy. Ryan. Wait, wait, that is the number one answer on the board. Travel light with just bone slash Nice Adam. That's the only answer. I have nine more. Number one. Sorry, got excited. Yes, I need to work. That's the number two answer in the void. Only for work trips. It can't stop working. Let's go right down the list. Number three, sometimes depends on the trip.

Yeah, the the the what you gotta give me more info about the trip. What's the differentiator? Am I visiting family or not? Nope. Damn. Sometimes depending on if I need to write a lot on this trip. Keyboard. No keyboard. Can I get a Uh Big No, that's kinda the only that's the only number two answer only for work trips. Oh if I have a meeting. Uh no, it's still works down. It's the biggest screen I can bring with me, so I'll watch a movie on it. That's pretty good. No. Watch a movie? Make a movie.

Ha ha ha. I mean you could edit a movie on it. Okay, that is What? The number Yep, the number is six answer for photography slash editing needs. That's way higher than I've got to do. You still get to be able to do that. Okay, what else would they say? They would say um I forgot we're doing solo. They would say no, they don't even own a laptop. That's good. Nerds. No. Sorry, right. They're like, no, I don't want it to break on my trip. No, it's a good answer. Mm-hmm.

I don't have a Like it you don't want anything to happen to you. There are uh there are other reasons that people said they would not bring one, but breaking is actually not one of the ones listed. It's like my number one reason I don't want to bring your places. No, I don't want it to get stolen. I don't wanna get sold is the number five answer. Thank you, Mariah. Uh yes, how else do I gain? Surprising to me. What? Nerds aren't gaming. What would these people? Care's no solo travel.

Digital Nomad! I heard that we said. You know what, Brian, just to keep it competitive, we're gonna give you the number eight answer on the board. Long trips only. I don't want the points. Yeah. You already have the points, we literally cannot subtract them from your score. Bill's the future. Yes, that is what you said. Digital nomad is different. No, that's that is Right inside. The comments will agree with me. 감사합니다. Um what else? Uh won't bring it because How many answers do we have left?

Yeah well. What's left on the board? Wait, five? The bottom five or Super quick tangent, just I before I forget, we were uh uh everyone was talking about the Google event after it it ended and someone was like, Yeah, I keep trying to do the this Gemini thing with voice and it doesn't work. When someone was like, Well do you think it do you think it trained with the voice? And I was like, Benediceret talking to Lisan Al Ghaib Thank you. All right. I don't remember who is up, so buzz in somebody.

Yeah. Then Mariah has the board and no one should buzz. I don't know man. Why aren't we bringing laptops? Well it's do you bring your laps. What do you think the Reddit community responded to the prompt? They said yes, I have to day trade. No, it still doesn't stock exchange. Um my laptop doesn't do anything that I want to do on this trip. Uh yes, uh I will c I will quantify that as regretted bringing it slash barely used it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

Um I it's just another thing I have to charge. I don't want to charge it. Peace. Mariah. Did we already say like doesn't fit in bag? Travel light, I think I think. Well, okay. Yeah, I think that's the number four answer. Bring an iPad slash tablet instead. Okay. Nice. Sure. Sure. Different? Excuse me. Oh I th I thought we said that already. Wow. Okay, so now we have three answers left. Answers left. The number three, nine, and ten answers. Not a lot of points left.

It's'cause I brought my tower PC instead. Solo travel. Number three response on Reddit would be Yeah. Where are you going? Oh, like people are asking. Now, yeah. I'm thinking with portals. Okay. Okay. Why, why? Are they like, why do you need it? Use case scenario. I think I think we can sweep this one up. I think I think we have enough. This one up? Seems sweeping on your mind, Else. Interesting. I'm sorry Ellis, I love you. You okay? Yeah. So number Number three.

Yes, but only a cheap or a cheap laptop or a Chromebook number. Nine. Stolen. I'm glad I had a laptop as a backup. Number ten, read a book. Okay. Just read a book. Yeah. No, that's not the same.

Brounding out the points, we have Adam now in the lead with 241 points, Marquez with 214, and Mariah with 92. That's I wanna before we We can end this here. Thank you. There's I think we should do this one next. I want this. Okay, good. So R slash retcond is the subreddit for the Mandela effect, but it's different than the Mandela effect subreddit because in the rules

It says you have to approach this subreddit with the assumption that the Mandela effect is real and the past actually is changing. That's okay. So it's pretty So that's like conspiracy thing? It's like it's conspiracy theory, but not like, oh, what if these conspiracy theories are real? It's like this is happening to me. Okay. I have submission for the Mandela effect. Fisher Price car. Never been both it's never been a Fisher Price car. It's little takes. What I had one as a kid.

Everyone thinks it's official price card. Wait, the one you reviewed on the Not Fisher Price. We have one in the studio, you can go look. Who makes it? Little take. What? Is LittleTyke's not a sub brand? Nope. No, I can see myself getting that wrong. Um guys. The the someone asked r slash retcond, can your phone read your mind? What did the conspiracy theorists of Reddit respond? They responded they have to be listening to you all the time.

Yes, that's a number four answer. Phone listening through microphone slash AI pattern recognition, Marquez. You have the board. Yeah, that's fine. King your photo in your mind. Um it seems like it's reading your mind based on how much it knows about you. But it just knows so much about you. Uh Thank you. Real. Two No, I think I think that might be the number two answer. Yeah, coincidence slash algorithms are just really good at prediction. That's the number two answer. Jesus Christ, Mark.

Experiments. Why does it think it's running your mind? Um ad tracking, maybe that's just the number No. I mean there's no My eye. It knows where I am. How does it know? Can we call that the number one answer? I don't know. No. No. No. No. What would what would so Honestly, Mariah, f it. I'm giving you the number nine answer. The number nine answer is spiritual slash psychic abilities explanation. This is amazing.

Basically from here on out, the number one answer is kinda reasonable, but everything else is crazy. Okay, okay. What would Redditors re w what would a Redditor type into their keyboard? What was remind me of the prompt again, sorry. your phone read your mind. on r slash retcond. Um Mm-hmm. Yeah, no. Remember the number? The number six answer brainwave slash EMF. Well, yeah. Adam, it is you know you have it. Conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories. Alright, I'm gonna go with Bluetooth.

Oh, yeah. Marquez. Eye tracking. Eye tracking is not on Comes to Brad. So not like f facial recognition? How does it know to unlock my phone? Facial recognition is Thanks to you. Not on here. How does your phone? Yeah. Does your phone read your mind? Thank you. I'm a writer. Does your phone read your mind? Um actually. No it doesn't read your mind. Uh that was oh skeptical slash dismissive response. Wow. Way to go, Marquez. It does read your mind. This has gotta be one of those.

What what else would like yes? Yeah and Yeah, it's um it's reading your thoughts. I don't wanna give him those points. Just but only'cause he's I'm gonna be a little strict'cause you'cause you're ahead. Okay. It's reading your emotions. Uh No. I haven't seen that movie though, so I don't know. I think I Uh did we already talk about targeted ads? I think we might have.

Okay, freak hold on We only have a few more. We can we can wrap this one up if you're if you're curious what the what the yes, Mariah. That's your answer. We don't have number one. Can I include like Facebook concier conspiracy related things on this? Yeah. So what what do you mean? I don't know, man. No There's no soccer at all. I got soccer. If you were a Redditor, what would you what would you write? The Illuminati. Uh Secret secret group knows my where I'm at. That's pretty...

This kind of like this but not. I thought that's closer to that.I thought that's what that movie was about. This is the movie? Yeah. Who here has seen the movie Don't Look Up? Alright. Oh yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, give Adam the points then just to automatically. I haven't seen it. Have you seen it? It's a good one. I know someone who needs points. Who was he giving Adam points? Yeah. Adam, you have the board. All right. Reasons. Say more. So Because they want to sell you things. No.

I feel like I've seen this on Reddit a lot. This one time I was talking about something and then I got an ad for Personal story of phone showing exactly what they thought about was the number one answer on the board. We didn't want to give it to you earlier, but that was just two on the nose, Marquez. Yeah, I've seen that on ready. The Michael Jordan of of Reddit guessing. 감사합니다. Let's uh let's go one more a one more guess from everyone here and then we'll wrap up this one.

All right, so this one is Is My Phone Reading My Mind? Yeah. As answered by Reddit folk. All three of the remaining answers on the board are in the Yeah. The artificial intelligence is simulating a human mind. But we we cannot give you those points, unfortunately. we're just like we're in a simulation. The number six answer, we are living in a Truman show-like simulation. Amazing Mariah. All right. Name another conspiracy. And I'll give you a hint. This one is for the girls.

For the girls? Oh no. What are we what are we lying about? I'm not supposed to tell. Yeah, what did you guys talk about? That was the last meeting. What's up? Goop? Mm. But what's the conspiracy? Come on, give me something. She like I already said Illuminati. Um aliens. Let me help. Pirates of the Caribbean? Conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theory. The blood of the youth. Andrina Crone. Pizza Gate! Okay. Sorry, got that. Can your phone read your mind? Uh Conspiracy, conspiracy, conspiracy.

I can't think of anything else. Well what did we miss? That's okay. I think we wrap this one up. What is it? The last two on the board are the number three answer, manifestation theory, we're creating these synchronicities, or number seven answer, haptic feedback, reading energy vibrations. Through hair. Yeah. The crystals. The frequencies. Frequency vibration. Holy crap.

Okay. The point standings now are Mariah with 116 points at the back, Adam with 260 points in the middle, and Marquez with a whopping 368 points in the lead. That's a tech podcast?

It's about to be a little bit more than a little bit. It's been weeks. Oh my god. The question is. That's good. This is an R slash Android. Oh, let's go. I'm ready. Getting for I've spent enough. I was in there this morning. Let's go. Thank you. What? is the worst Android phone you've ever owned. God, there's so many that could be number one. HTC Thunderbolt. Number three answer. No way. Really? Okay, good. N I wanna go with a Nexus. Nexus four. Mariah. Gracias.

No. Nexus four is literally on there, I apologize. Okay. Worst Android phone I've ever used. Um Samsung Galaxy S twenty five edge. It's probably not on there yet. Yeah. Galaxy S eight edge or S seven edge. I forget which one it was. Mariah. Pixel six, no reason in particular. Pixel six is on there. From experience. Bigly noted were the battery life and overheating issues. Let's go. God. Um Galaxy S eight? Oh no no. Yes. I'm gonna say that one. No? Okay. No. Worse Android one I think.

Yeah. What's the Some really weird. Really thick. Is it Motorola phone? Oh my god. Motorola I don't know. I don't know. Motorola, come on, just name a Motorola phone. Any Motorola phone. What does Paris Hilton have? I don't know. You know the one I'm talking about. She had a razor fold thing. What is this thing called? Galaxy Nexus. No, that one everyone loves. I loved it but it had some problems. Uh LG Wing. Oh, there's a lot of LG phones I came here. Okay, L G eight. No, that one was awesome.

LGG9 G G six. The note seven. Oh. Why are you googling me? I couldn't remember what it's called. Listen, this isn't my life. I don't know all these phones. No seven noted for its explosion risk. Yeah. That makes sense. That's the same thing. What's the one that like exploded the Samsung phone? That was a nice. Great. Okay. Yeah. Um Hmm, you know, another Android phone. Um, is there like a like a razor situation in here?

Yep. I'll give that one to you. Razor M was on there. Oh yeah. I'm only giving you that one because uh you're so bad. What number was that? Uh just razor M. At least I don't have one, two or three, right? Oh yes. You don't have Okay. Okay. One two five. Five seven python. Worst Android phone ever. Ever. Every yeah. Made. Or That they use, right? Is it Number O. Owned. Owned, owned. Okay. Okay. True. we're getting close to it for a little bit. Can I say the the Samsung Fold one?

And that is not on here now. Does he flip one? I'm gonna think of like phones that were bust of the year. Like it's not gonna be this saga solana, it's not gonna be upvoted a lot. Well, is there a lot of old stuff on this list? It has to be a phone that people have owned. How great people Yeah. Oh. Thank you. How many people wrote it? Yeah, people. Oh, I was gonna say red hydrogen. Oh yeah, but nobody bought that, so that's not going to be up. Okay. Starting naming phones, man.

What's a phone that a lot of A lot of people bought it and a lot of people took it. The Motorola Droid X? I love that film. It was lumped in with Motorola Droid series slash radio. Oh okay. But right. What's that Windows phone? Not a R slash Android. Oh my god. Mandela effects? Right, you just got a retcon. Andrew. Guys, I can uh we we can we can wrap this up if people have getting slow, but I will say I don't know any Android phones. Adam and Marquez, you guys were circling the drain earlier.

When when we L G G three. No. LGWING No one cares about that. Fawn. LG G five. No. LGG one. L G four. The number one answer on this. 32 for... People said that it had bootloop issues. Oh right. The G four was Yeah, it was yeah, it was bad. I was gonna say G flex not G G five had like the modular like pull out the battery thing. God damn. But the G four was n was That was number one? That was number one. Guys, I think we should wrap it here. There is no possible way.

Oh wait, no, I could get I could get one. Although no one bought them. That's like Sony Experia one. All Sony Experia bones is the number ten answer. What? Who even knows those exist? Yeah. Wow. This is a small thread. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, wow. That's it, that's all of them Oh. Guys, the answers left on the board include the number two answer, the Samsung Galaxy J series slash Samsung budget phones noted their laggy, terrible experience.

The Samsung S twenty one and S twenty two series for are overhearing uh excuse me, overheating and people were upset about X and S twenty ultra. Uh just 21 and 22 series is what uh Quen decided to sum up for us. At number seven, twelve people put one plus early models, including the 3T and 7 Pro for software. Seven Pro is one of my favorite phones ever. Interesting. Okay. Um I could So I won, right? Hear me out. We're combining our points. Into one to be I still don't know.

You still wouldn't beat him. There's surely there's surely it's not possible. Uh you would still be about thirty points short. Oh. Wow. Do you guys want to Okay Marquez, I have a proposition. Yeah. What is that? I think I think we gotta wrap this game up and we'll we'll pick it up maybe as a segment in the next trivia extravaganza, guys. Anyway, thank you for playing Reddit Family Food. Our final scores, Mariah the caboose with 153 points. Adam carrying the one with 297 points. And Marquez.

Dominating the field with 446 points. Thank you for playing. Thank you, Rufus, for coming on today's little segment game. We miss you. Sous-titrage ST' 501 Oh my God. Come home. Come back to him. The lights are so bright at the big table. You can bring all the new ones with you. The little ones. Guys, with that we have our actual trivia. Okay. I'm ready. Is there another question? There is another question, it's also about Google. Guys, Google's official blog, The Keyword, which is

notoriously wrong about Google things all the time, um, has a convoluted and frankly confusing article about how Gemini got its name. I've read it several times and I'm still not sure where they got the name Gemini from. But you know what is not mentioned on this confusing article? What Gemini was called when it was re first when it was first released, because if everyone remembers, they changed the name to Gemini after a little bit. What was Gemini called?

Upon its release. I know everyone could be like, oh what it was released it was a chat bot, now it's like a different shut up. Like I don't care. I don't care. Tiny man. Got it. Tiny man. Tiny guys doing. They're they're stepping on your computer. They're inside my computer. Yeah, they're working on anyway. Uh we'll be right back after the break. Support for the show comes from hostinger.

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All right, welcome back to our last little segment here. Uh Chaos of the Game Show is fun, but we actually do have a little bit more tech to talk about, believe it or not, it's it's a tech podcast. We probably should that is before the game, not anything. Those of you who are dedicated, who are really making it this far, uh we do uh actually wanna chat briefly about Fitbit Air, which is a new announcement technically from Google who bought Fitbit and then turned Fitbit into Google Health.

And what wait, so what was Google Fit? So Google f well Google Fit is no more. And there was the f the Fitbit app, which they moved into this beta, which was all this new stuff. It is now the Google Health app.

Yeah. So the Fitbit Air is their new screenless uh we saw the leaks of this. We talked about it like two or three episodes before. There's screenless fitness tracker that is supposed to compete directly with the Whoop and all the other screenless fitness trackers, but they're with the Whoop is a big one. It's official now.

It is it's really interesting. I think they're coming straight for Whoops lunch because I think the number one thing you'd probably hear from Whoop customers about what they don't like is that it's an i it's a subscription. Mm-hmm and it's Not cheap, it's like two hundred and fifty to three hundred and fifty dollars a year depending on which subscription level you get.

So the Fitbit is ninety nine bucks uh unlike the whoop which was fifty, but that is in addition to a nine dollar ninety nine cent per month subscription to Google Health Premium. Which is actually not necessary to use the Fitbit. So you can use the Fitbit without the subscription. It does basic stuff, calorie tracking, heartbeats, stuff like that. But for all the features, ten bucks a month.

stuff. Yeah. And like the more detailed tracking and things like that. And workouts, automatic workout detection, all that fun stuff. So it is definitely undercutting the whoop price. And then for people who were thinking about getting a whoop or were thinking I don't want to spend As much as I am on the whoop, maybe I'll I'll move to the Google side of things. It'll work on iOS or Android. Which is crazy to me. Which is nice.

You know, obviously uh a lot of these things are locked to one side or the other. Pixel watch is only gonna work on Android, Apple Watch is only gonna work on Apple's side of the fence, but you know, these fitness trackers Working with both is nice.

And it's got some nice features. So it's gonna have a seven-day battery life roughly. You saw the different colors. There's like a Steph Curry special edition, but there's also a black one. Uh you can charge it for five minutes to get one day of battery life. Clutch. It has a regular charger. It doesn't have like that the whoop charger. Well it has a proprietary charger. It's a proprietary charger, but you have to It's like a little puck that you can like slide onto the whoop itself.

That is sick. It's really cool. I will say when I was using it for a bit, I would slide it onto the whoop and then just like go about my day. That thing slaps into everything. Every corner you turn around, you're You're hitting that. But as soon as it's done you take it off and it's right back to the Super dope that you don't even have to take it off to charge it. Yeah. Really clever.

So uh 50 meters of water resistance. It should have a haptic alarm. There's like a bunch of th features you would expect in the Fitbit air. No notifications for Andrew. No notifications, sorry. Obviously no screen, no time. Um, but yeah, as far as competing directly with the Whoop, it feels like this is just like, hey, do the same thing the Whoop does, give all the same information, but make it cheaper.

I'm really excited for this because I've been using the Pixel Watch 3 for a bit and I was paying for the Fitbit premium and I had the whole AI beta coach thing this whole time. And I really liked it, but it required me to wear the Pixel Watch.

And it's not that I don't like wearing a pixel watch, it's just that I also like wearing regular watches. So whenever I would wear a different watch, I all of a sudden wouldn't get my steps. I wouldn't get my sleep tracking. I wouldn't get all these things. And it's like, it's not a big deal. Who cares? Whatever. It's not the end of the world. But it's just like a nice to have thing.

And Fitbit to me was always that kind of product where you just put it on like when it first came out, it was just like a small little thing that you put in a strap, a band, and you can swap out the bands, just like this one. And it was like one of the first ones to do that and just give you like basic tracking stuff. And that's all I've wanted for so long. So I'm very glad that they're doing this. I'm just very confused that they're killing the Fitbit brand.

Which makes no sense to me. Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. But Fitbit is like it has such good brand recognition. Like, oh it's the Fitbit, you know, like now they're turning it into Google Health with h which has like a whole different set of implications and The product is still a Fitbit. Yeah, that's the same thing. So you're still buying a Fitbit.

But then you have to attach it to Google Health. Yes. Yeah. Not the Fitbit app. Like if I'm on an iPhone and I go to Best Buy and I buy a Fitbit, now I need to download a Google Health app, which hits different. Yeah. It's surprising as like a legacy brand that they would want to rename after how many years they have been Fitbit because like

Like you said, I don't think, you know, a boomer's gonna be like, What Google's tracking my stuff? Even though Google's owned them for years. And they know what a Fitbit is, but they don't know what Google Health is or like, you know, all these other things. It feels like a big s unnecessary step maybe, but if they're trying to consolidate the brand as a whole for all their health stuff. Yeah. It's just I feel like Fitbit has such good brand capital. It does.

Yeah, I think the one thing, so Whoops obviously already very popular and has been for a long time. And I think the biggest advantage I actually see between them now that I I plan on testing them both at the same time side by side and really in investigating and digging deep. You're like our little lab rat. Yeah, honestly, I'm just gonna wear them both. It's gonna be horrible. But the thing that Woop has going for it is there's a ton of accessories for it.

Yeah. That aren't available at least out the gate right now with a Fitbit error. I'm sure uh in two seconds on Amazon there'll be a ton of third party ones. Absolutely. But like when you go to buy a whoop, there's like, oh, you want a whoop? Do you also want a chest strap? Do you also want like

a thousand extra bands and also we have underwear that you could put the whoop in. Like they have a ton of stuff. And the Fitbit Air, there's not even a chest strap or an arm band. It's just the normal bands on your wrist. Yet. So

That's what I'm noticing, but I'm gonna test them. I'll have them side by side. So I'll literally A B test like exactly how long the battery life is. I'm gonna do the same workouts with both of them. I think it'll be really interesting. I also think they'll be very similar. Whoop is really good at the activity auto detection. So I'm curious. I like to hear. Yeah.

It's surprising. Well, the Apple Watch that I've been wearing for a long time is not good at that. It does it sometimes. Like if my GPS location is moving for a while and I'm outside, then it'll be like, Oh, are you doing an outdoor walk?

But I could start biking, I could start playing ultimate, I could start practice, I could start running and it doesn't really usually auto start. So I'm curious to see how well these will like auto detect and then auto measure and then tag them accurately. We'll see. To my memory, because I haven't used it in like a year or two, I think. Maybe like a year, but it doesn't detect it as you're doing.

Like you have to go through the activity and then afterwards it'll look back on your data and be like, oh, there was elevated heart rate here and according to their phone, they were outside, so maybe they're doing a run. And then it'll like tag it as a run. Right. Exactly. That kind of thing. And then you if it tags it wrong, you can adjust it.

Yeah, but I do like on the Apple Watch and on like the Pixel watch, if I'm doing something, it'll just be like, It looks like you're walking. Do you wanna start a workout? Like that's pretty cool. The thing on the watches is when you start a workout, then it's doing this way, way more granular measuring. It's doing like way more sampling and way more frequent measuring of heart rate and things like that, which is why I start the workout manually every time'cause I wanna get that data.

So I'm curious, like if I go start a practice or if I go start a HIT workout and then my heart rate drops between sets, is it gonna go, oh, don't have to measure anymore? Not really sure how it's gonna go. But I'm gonna so my plan, tell me if you like this plan or if this is dumb. I'm gonna keep the Apple Watch on my right wrist. I don't like it. I'm gonna have the Fitbit air and the Whoop on my left wrist. Okay. And then I'm gonna do all my workouts wearing all three.

So I have a control'cause I know what numbers I usually get out of the Apple Watch, but I'll do the workouts, I'll do the practices, and then I'll get both of the readings from the whoop and the Fitbit Air and compare them. Can we get you like a chest strap? How do you feel about being chest? I don't mind that, but the chest strap for the whoop is probably going to measure differently from the arm strap, the armband for the Fitbit. So that's why I'm keeping them both on.

Okay, yeah, that that makes sense. Yeah. You can do that. You have fun, Sarah. Three. You sound thrilled for me. It's yeah. I I mean it's the best way to probably test it. Um would I approach you wearing all three? I might not. No. I'll be I'll be repelling people from me for the three weeks that I need to test them. But yeah, hopefully the video's worth it. Yeah. Mariah, which one are you getting? Which Um probably. I mean I got Pixel Watch already. So you're not gonna get a Fitbit?

I think I'm good. I do enjoy a low barrier to entry. I think a low price point is good and I don't necessarily need the screen. Um it is interesting that it does only save the data for 30 days. Is that pretty standard for both? Well, I think that saves it on the device for thirty days. So if you like forget your phone or your phone breaks or something, it'll still track for thirty days and then it'll transfer over. Huh. Yeah, I don't think I'm gonna buy one.

You know what's nice about you have a Pixel watch. Yeah. You know what's nice about the Fitbit Air is that also talks to Google Health and so you can hot swap between them and they will just pick up where the other left off. So if you don't wanna wear the the pixel watch while sleeping, the Fitbit Air can be your sleep tracker and then you swap back to the watch during the daytime. Yeah and it'll sort of just keep all the data in line. Which is Council. That's kinda cool.

I just don't think I need to track every moment of my existence and have that data. Um,'cause I'm not trying to optimize, but I do appreciate the people that want to optimize. I need the data. Yeah. I need to know how many steps I've taken in my lifetime. Yeah.

Yeah. Well there it is. I mean, yeah, stay tuned for the for the video. Obviously that's it's in the works, which means I'll be getting my hands on both soon. So T B D. Uh but yeah, I'm just I'm just glad I got the points in in our little game that we played. Speaking of points though. Turn. My turn to get points.

Time for the actual trivia question. Here we go. All the questions. All right, everybody. Nobody asked except for me how many Google products and services have the letters B-O-O-K next to each other. And this is closest without going in. Price is right rules. have ever existed. Well there's There's the book's palm uh Wait this is but this is Google specifically. There's Barnes and Nobles. Book. MacBook Pro. All right, who would like to go first?

I'll go'cause I can explain my silly little chart here. What do we got? So my number is six. Okay. Okay. I don't actually know the name of six, but I figure there's Chromebook Pixel, there's regular Chromebooks, there's Google Books, there's Google Buck. Mm-hmm. And then there's probably some sort of like a bookfinder service that they had, and then there's probably like a bookings service that they also had.

If there was a booking service then it wasn't it didn't have the word book in it and Google Books was the book finding service. But I will say six is under the number I found. Wow. So you are technically still in contention. Okay. Oh, yeah. And you don't care to list any of them. Um no. Mariah, what did you put? If it's seven or eight or nine, you win. Well I'm gonna make David so proud. Um I picked just a really round number, lucky thirteen. Nice. Unfortunately that is over. Oh really?

That is over because I just accidentally spoiled the answer. The answer is nine. I found nine Google products and services. They are. Are you ready? Paper times like these. Ha ha. I actually made I got a point. The Chromebook. Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Google Books. Yep. Google Notebook, which was the precursor. No, no, no. Yeah, then then Notebook LL. Oh, okay. Oh. So Google Notebook and Notebook L are two things. Uh-huh. Then the Chromebook Pixel. Okay. The Pixelbook. Uh-huh. The Pixelbook Go.

Yes. And Google Bookmark. Congratulations. Oh thank you. Thank you. Sorry, Andrew. Marquez, this is a big day. Yeah. Because with that point, you have officially Pass. Andrew. That is Carrying the one like he has for years at twenty four points. Marquez is smacked out of the middle of twenty five and David is still in first place with a whopping twenty eight points. All right. This is this is our chance. I'm gonna tie it again. For you, Andrew.

Before Gemini was called Gemini, it was called What? Which is a little silly because it was only called this a handful of years ago, but maybe we forgot. Maybe we forgot. And I think it was only called this for like months. Eight months or something. Yeah. And I don't know why they changed it. Uh Because branding. They just thought of a better name. Yeah, like time to kill another thing. Did they think of a better name though? I don't know that to be true.

I mean this was a pretty poor name if it's the one I'm thinking of. I thought it was a great name. Well, yeah. Okay. All right. Terrible branding name. Not a name. I went with Googlebart. Google Bard. Oh. And I knew that. I wanna see what Mira. Uh I put Bard. Hard. Yeah. Thank you. Mariah, you also put buttons. In hindsight, I did actually know that information, but I was along the um astrological sign, so I put what is zodiac killer. Whoa. Oh it's the thought. It's the thought.

Audio listeners don't know the difference. Better name. Yeah. Gemini at some point they can call themselves a Zodiac. Zodiac killers, there we go. It's available. Yeah. Well With that. Thank you listeners for sticking with us throughout this whole ordeal. If you're still here, comment I don't know, what what should they comment, Marquez? Pancake Mix. Pancake mix. There you go. Bis quick.

If you made if you made it this far, what comment comment pancake mix. Just just the bisquick and the and the egg and the milk and then the whisk. Wait, yeah. Nesquik, the same thing. In the oven. Three fifty. Egg? Egg is crazy. Egg is c A Y G is crazy. Hey. How do you guys say it? Egg. Gimme some give me an egg for that pancake. They sound similar enough to me. I'll let the commenters decide.

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