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When I started this, we were talking about menopause. Menopause, which is one of the major changes that we do as we go through life, and we talked about it from a women's perspective. Today we're going to talk about it from a men's perspective. I'm just gonna move my mic. I have two amazing guests. I'm going to bring them up right now, and while they're here, I will do special introduction.
It's Andrew and Bruce is back to help us walk through this episode. Hi, gentlemen, thank you so much for joining us. Hi Andrew, and Hi Bruce.
Hey Genevieve, how are you doing?
Very good? Thank you? Andrew?
Long time, no talk, long time, no.
Talk talk Andrew.
I'm gonna sorry, my mind keeps falling here. I probably need some hormones. We'll talk about that, Andrew. I'm gonna start off by just talking a little bit more about what the conversation is on this podcast. Then i'll introduce you specifically. Everyone remembers Bruce. So this week's episode of Walk with Wisdom, we talk about demystifying men's health. We're gonna focus on Andrew pause as I like to call it here, Andrew and Bruce knows mano pause. I heard
that somewhere. We'll figure out where I heard that, But it has a ring to it. When women go through the change, men also goes through a change. And I'm so grateful to have you, Andrew and Bruce talk about things like effective strategies to maintain testosterone health, muscle mass, and overall well being. Now I'm going to introduce Andrew specifically. So Andrew Manawera is a physician, educator and product specialist
with Canbra of Naturals and Cido Matrix. He specializes in detailing medical doctors, natural pathic physicians and pharmacists on clinical, effective natural health products so they can navigate the increasingly complex supplement industry and find the right products for their patients. Andrew became involved in the natural health and supplement industries in nineteen ninety two.
Andrew, you're not that old. You look so young.
You're going to give the men and me hints on that, so so you look young. He worked at all levels of the natural health industry contract manufacturing, product development, category management, professional sales, medical education, retail pharmacy, retail outfood, medical men management, and entrepreneur.
Wow, that's amountiful.
Andrew also has an extensive background in performance athletics, including mixed martial arts, CrossFit and coaching, functional strength training, running and cycling.
Bruce, you and I are tired, I know, just listening to all of that, wouldn't you say?
Sorry?
I think I worked up a sweat there?
I know, Yeah, sorry, sorry. I tend to like to do a lot of different things.
No, that's awesome. So, gentlemen, we're going to start today. I'll just quickly reintroduce Bruce, just because he's here with us the entire time.
Sorry about it, just in the smike here.
Bruce, of course, has this holistic health background, not unlike myself. Everyone has come to know Bruce and I. What we do is we take the complicated, make it simple. And when we have an amazing guest like Andrew, we thought today you can have a three way conversation on men. So, gentlemen, I didn't want to leave the men out on youthful aging because we all go through a change. And so the first category we're gonna have Q and A, but
it's more like a category. The first category that I wanted to start off with is the changes that men go through. Let's say forty and over, because that's our demographic. By the way, everyone thank you for the younger demographic who tunes in so Andrew Bruce knows this. We have younger people of course in the Perry menopause stage. Perry menopause stage, but you want to start taking care of your health earlier before you get to over forty.
So I'm sure you'll address that, Andrew.
Andrew, what are the top three things that you see men go through when they're aging and they really need some help fixing What we're going to talk about today, Well.
I'm going to this. What I'm going to talk about and as an answer to this question comes from my own aging as a guy who kind of is shocked that he's not invincible anymore. And number two is from relating to my time with clinics and doctors what they ask me questions about for product solutions. So when you're young, there's really nothing that you mean to worry about except you know, whatever you're worrying about internally. Externally, your body
functions fairly well and we take that for granted. And then as the years go by, slowly but slowly, you realize, Wow, I'm sore, or that's not healing, or I feel a little off, and that happens more and more and more, and then one day you notice, wow, I'm a little fat in the mid midsection, or I can't do the things that I used to do. I don't have the energy. Now,
all of these changes are gradual. So for example, the statistic that's used in medical profession is that usually after about the age of forty eight mans testosterone will drop about one percent per year.
So after what ag.
What forty years old? Yeah, at about forty Now, a lot of these statistics about you know, testosterone decreasing and also muscle mass decreasing and body fat increasing, you know, the opposite of the things that we don't want happening or that we do want happening. These more have more to do and this is my own opinion about our lifestyle than about anything due to our genetics that we
can't control. In other words, there is more that you can do to control how you age and your what we call your health span in your lifespan, because you want to a really big health span to encompass your life span. If you have a very short health span in which in which you're healthy and then the rest of your life you're battling disease and dysfunction, that is a short health span. So you want a big health
span to complement a long life span. So, because we can't control how long we're going to live, but we can control how we live, and so this has more How you look and how you feel and how you're able to move has more to do with Number one is exercise. So if you're sedentary, that is going to be the biggest risk factor for dropping your testosterone because testosterone. Actually one of the biggest ways to reduce testosterone or to increase testosterone is still lose body fat. So as
we become older, we also become more sedentary. And sometimes we know that we're sedentary other times we actually aren't aware of what a difference our bodies are movement patterns are from when we were younger. So to answer your question, I think the age related changes that we notice are not due to some definable event in men like menopause
is in women. It's due to accumulative effect of being sedentary, not eating enough nutrient dense food at the right time, and then having a high stress level coupled with poor sleep patterns.
Wow, thank you for that, Bruce. Can you jump in here. I wanted your prospective, of course being a male and being with me all these weeks on what Andrew just mentioned.
Well, I just want to move forward, Like, what do we do about this? So how do you get all this back? How do you start exercising? What I mean? I had a dream the other night went running and I woke up stifferent, sore. How do we get to the point where we can thank you? How do we get to the point where we can actually start running again and not bece different sore? Well, and the nutrients the nutrient acceeding. Yeah, let's talk about it all absolutely.
Well, you know, Andrew, Andrew, before you answer, I just want to say this when we started this podcast, I set everyone up that this is real life. So when we talk here, we're allowed to laugh, we're allowed to have notes, we're.
Allowed to be real.
And so Bruce I picked up on his humor, which is why I laughed, and just quickly on aside, there's a Canadian comedian who said the same thing that he was limping the next day and someone goes, oh, did you work out, and he goes, you know you're getting older, when he goes, no, I just slept and I woke up and I'm limping like I worked out, and he was over forty. So now, Andrew, you're gonna answer to that. How to help you men get that babbah bah boomback.
Well, I think what you know, what happens internally is reflected externally. So how you look and how you function is a is a comes down to what you're doing on a regular basis or not doing, and that starts in the mind. So there's a little formula that I actually learned called and this is a formula to help
you get through any kind of roadblock. And I kind of whenever I'm stopped or I don't want to do something, I think about it So the formula is big P equals little P minus I. So what this means is big P is performance, and performance can mean anything that you want to achieve. It could be a goal. So you in the original version of the formula it was P, but I substitute goals. The second so equals little P little P is potential. So it's you know, what are
your capabilities, what are your skills? What do you bring to the table right now? Minus I and I is the most important thing thing in you getting your big P. It's not your potential, but it's your eye. And I is interference, and what is interference? Interference are the things internally in your own mind, usually evidenced by a self talk pattern. Usually we talk ourselves into and out of things.
So if you say, hey, I want to go do a run, like Bruce was saying, instantly we'll generate some conversation around it in our mind, that's I. If that's not supporting us, that's I. If it's supporting us, it's not I. So I is interference. And interestingly, most of us focus a lot of our time and our energy trying to acquire information skills, and those are all in
the little P category that's increasing your potential. So you can read all the books, you can learn all the theory, but unless you get into action by reducing that, I nothing's going to happen because the big P isn't going to change. Does that make sense?
That makes visions?
Yeah? Now yes, I cannot take credit for this. This information is from a phenomenal book from Tim Galloway called The Inner Game of Tennis. So if you, if any of your listeners want to look at that, then this is probably I think from the nineties or two thousands, and this is where I learned this formula. So let's focus on reducing the interference. And how you do that is if you want to do the number one biggest thing you can do to change your life, improve your
testosterone levels, improve your muscle mass, is to exercise. To get us to exercise, what I find is the most effective is as soon as you roll out of bed, have your shoes, your socks, and your workout gear right on your bed, so you roll into that, put that on. Don't put your slippers on, don't put your pajamas on, don't put your robe on, because you're not going to be in the right mindset and then go for a walk. Got to get yourself moving. Now, if you have a dog,
this is a lot easier. I have a dog. He loves to get up in the morning and raise hell, so I don't have a choice. And then from there I have my cup of coffee good or bad, and then I head out. How do you exercise now? When you're young and young can be You're as young as you feel, but biologically young. You know, in your twenties, let's say you can get up and you can start doing intense training programs with very few side effects other than muscle soreness. You know, you might pull a muscle,
but you're going to recover, you'll live. As you get older and more sedentary, there is a higher risk of tearing things that don't fix as easily, so ligaments tendons. I remember going to a Pure Pharmacy bowling party and I bruceaid, I don't know where that you were there, but I just started. I just started training, and I felt pretty confident about myself because I was able to train consistently for four weeks after a layoff, and I was bowling like crazy and the next day both my
knees were so inflamed I could barely walk. So that was a wake up call. So again, as we age, I think it's important to start things off slowly and maybe have a functional trainer or a coach assess your body in conjunction with a physician to say, hey, look, this is your limit. These are the things you got to watch out for. These are the movements you don't
want to do. These are the exercises and the type of activity you want to stay away from, because the goal is to get from where you are to where you want to end up. But you might have to take a different route than another person. So like on a map, if you want to get from here to Calgary, it depends where you start off to determine your route. And so everybody is starting off at a different place,
especially if you're older and you've been sedentary. A lot of what you have to develop is mobility, stability, and you know basic core ligament fascial strength. You don't want to jump into something where you're exerting your muscles and trying to build them up too quickly, or you don't want to run out there and do hit training when you don't have a basic aerobic base. So gradual slow.
You want to balance the nervous system. There's a part of your nervous system that's a break called a parasympathetic, and a part that's called the accelerator, which is as sympathetic. You want to balance those as your training. You know, you need to rest, you need to stress and rest stress. So that's the long and short of it, because the biggest mistake I see is people have a long layoff. They're like, it's New Year's I want to do something.
We'll start the diet, and then bang they head out for a run, not realizing that maybe their ankle articulation is not that great, maybe they have really tight calves and they end up injuring their achilles or their calf, and then of course they're hobbling around and you know they give up or worse, you get a knee injury. Rights terror, Right, these are all really important things to look at, and that's why I recommend people get a movement coach when they're starting off from being sedentary.
Fantastic, Andrew, it's a perfect time. We're going to take a break here. When we come back, Bruce, I would love to hear you give us some thoughts on that, but we're going to take a break right now for our sponsors.
We'll be right back.
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B Hi everyone, I'm Genevieve Wisdom. Welcome back to Walk with Wisdom Today. I'm here with Andrew and Bruce. We're talking about men's health, primarily men's health over forty a stage called Andrew Pause, which will define a little bit later on specifically what that is or what I like to.
Call is menopause.
We started off on a great, great discussion and Andrew. What I really love is you're talking about foundational things. I mean, there's so many things that we can do, but the foundational thing is exercise. Now, everyone, remember, go to your primary care practitioner. We're just having a discussion here.
It's our podcast, it's our Walk with Wisdom. We get to talk and walk, but go to your primary care practitioner and everything that we talk about here is having a conversation to help you understand why they may recommend certain things. So, Bruce, I would love to hear what you have to add about what Andrew said.
I really liked Badan you had to say the stress and rest, and I think I've mastered the rest part of it, So now we have to deal with the
stress part. So I was thinking, I was just wondering because you know, I'm in this stage his life as well, right and I'm starting to lose my muscle mass and I'm starting to put on a belly, And what's a good way to start, Like do you I know you can't just say do these things because you don't know our health levels, but like it's biking a good pedal biking a good way to get into it, or swimming, or what's a good easy exercise that everybody could do
everybody but safely do if you're in some form of relative shape.
Good question. That also depends on your level. You know what you're interested in, because you're not going to do something if you're not interested in it and you don't find it fun. So the first thing I would urge people to do is find something fun that you will stick with. If you don't want to cycle, then you
can do other things. I happen to be a cycling geek, so I love cycling, but I would urge people to get strong first, because an activity which you're talking about doesn't necessarily translate into improvement of strength and stability and mobility. To do that, you have to consciously work on some specific things. So what I would look at is working
on stabilizing your structure from the bottom up. And one of the things that I'm very aware of is how people mess up their calves, their feet, wearing improper shoes, women with high heel shoes. But we're talking about guys. But I mean some guys wear high heel shoes. So I'm not judging right, not pointing at anybody else here. But if you do happen to have issues with your heels and your feet, one of the things you want to do is to make sure you do heel drops.
So you find a stare and you gradually drop your heels one at a time and stretch out that that tendon and the ligaments in your lower legs. It feels like it feels like the bottom of a calf raise, and once you get stronger then you can start to do calf raises, So a heel drop at minimum to calf raises. The other thing we want to do is we want to practice walking, and when you walk, you want to try and keep your feet straight and walk heel toe. When you run, you run in a different
movement patterns. We won't get into that, but walking, I think is a phenomenal thing to start off with. And the other important thing with walking is a lot of people can get shoulder injuries from walking because their thumbs are not pointed straight ahead. So when you're walking, keep your thumbs pointed straight ahead of your body instead of like this. And that's one of the reasons why I
like using walking sticks. So if you have walking sticks and you can do trails hikes where you're walking on soft ground. We evolved and walking on soft surfaces, not on hard concrete. So walking in nature on a gravel trail would be much better for you than walking on the sidewalk. But if the sidewalks all you got start there. So that's one number two is you need to be able to do so.
One moment andrew one moment because I want to do this, walk with you, walk with wisdom. Okay, Bruce, did you know that people threw their shoulders out with their hands during backwards when they're walking.
Is that what I deserve?
I was actually gonna how's the mechanism of that work? How do you throw your shoulders out without point to your thumbs?
Wrong direction, because what happens is as you as you as you age or you get weaker, your shoulders will turn in, so you'll get you'll you'll wing your arms out. And when you wing your arms out and you're swinging them when you're walking, you create you're moving your shoulder in a way it wasn't designed to move, and so usually you're hunched over like this. So a lot of
people don't realize it. And that's one of the reasons I'm going to recommend some exercises to do using something called a TRX and a TRX is or you can use bands. Either. I carry a TRX and bands around in a backpack in my car, so I can train anywhere in a playground in uh, you know, a park.
I just wrapped the band or the TRX around and there are some basic movements that you want to do to make sure that you're you know, your posture is such that when you put your hands to your side, your thumbs point straight ahead and not your palms facing forward or backwards. So so the basic exercises other than the heel drop calph raises number one would be something like a squat. So you need to be able to
squat and come back up. So that's one movement you need to be able to do because if you cannot maintain any of these movements as you age, you will lose your ability to move eventually, and the two things that take away our freedom and our autonomy will be losing your mobility and losing your mind. And the two
are linked. So as we get right, like it's when you're young, you take for granted that you're you're strong and you can recover, but you know, hey, get a knee injury, twist your ankle, you realize, you know just how intricate everything is linked. So squat is one exercise. The second is a hinging movement, and a hinging movement is anything where your bumb goes back. First, you need to stay in the same position and something like in
the functional training world we call it a deadlift. So you need to be able to do a deadlifting hinging movement because that works the rear chain of muscles. The third thing is you need to be able to properly contract your core, and so every exercise you do you need to be able to create a brace with your core and that tightens up all the abdominal cavity and
takes a stress off your lower back. Because a lot of people don't know how to do the basic you know, another time when I come on, I can talk to people about what I learned from my coach about how to do a brace so that you're not putting yourself at risk for a low back injury or a discarnation when you are doing basic movements. The third movement you want to be able to do is a pressing movement,
so like a bench press, so that's really important. Another movement you need to be able to do is a pulling movement like a bent over row, because you need to be able to push in it. You need to be able to pull your upper body. And the last one is a movement overhead, so like a pressing over your head like this. So these are the basic movements that you're going to be able to You need to be able to do in order to be functional for
your life. And then you need some cardiovascular fitness, and that would be starting with the walking, and I would recommend something where you're actually putting your spine under load because that's how you maintain your bone density as well. Interestingly, swimming does not maintain your bone density because of the
buoyancy effect of water. So if you are say osteoproduct or you're losing your bone mass and it does happen to men too, then swimming it might be a good start, but you need to add in other things like walking elliptical training. Running may not be the best way to get your active in the beginning until you get strong enough because running requires actually a lot of coaching so that you're not getting you're not landing on your heels and creating a lot of trauma for your low back.
There's a way to run where you're using the springiness of your tendons and ligaments to drive yourself forward with a lot of kinetic energy. But unfortunately most people.
Here Andrew, Andrew, I need to jump in here talking about running. I don't think we talked about our background, but Bruce and I have the same background.
Will do that on another show anyway.
I sprinted when I was younger, so this all has to do with what's going on with us aging. When I met my husband, which was in my fifties, I got married and he's talking about being a sprinter and how fast he was. So I said to him I'm looking at him. He was born in Canada, he has a Dutch background, and okay, I'm a Canadian, A pardon me your Canadian girls. So I have this sprinting genetics. So I challenged him to his sprint, and then something bad happened called menopause.
Now he keeps saying, let's go for that sprint, and I'm going, I can't even walk.
I don't know how to sprint. So what Andrew is talking about everyone? It's absolutely about the men, but it's for the girls too.
So thank you so much.
Andrew for talking about how we change and how sprinting is not where you want to challenge someone in your mid fifty not right off, start talking laughing.
Not right away, yeah, not right away. Ideally, you want to get into the place where you can do sprinting movements and pliometrics, where you're able to do jumping maneuvers, where you can skip, where you can lift weight very quickly. Because the other thing about aging is when we lose muscle, as men and women, we lose a lot of the fast twitch typtoo fibers, and those fibers you will not get back by lifting tiny little dumbells or doing you know,
band work. You need to be able to lift at some point challenge yourself so that you're going to failure and you need to lift quickly as well or lift slowly. But you need to lift so that the rule is you either lift quickly or you lift slow and heavy, and either of those can cause injury if you're just coming off a layoff. So you need to build up to that by increasing your connective tissue strings and your cardiovascular base. So it's a little bit of a like unwrapping,
you know, a knotted shoelace. You can't just you know, go in there and pull on it because it's just going to get tighter.
So I gather, sorry, Jen, I gather that you think you're thinking that we should get a trainer before we go and start doing all these things. Is that kind of what you're suggesting?
Get a you know, just like we go for a physical to figure out, you know, how healthy are we we do our block work. It's always good to get somebody who knows what they're doing to do a movement screen. And there are a lot of personal trainers who will just beat the crap out of you and don't know what they're doing. Do not go to those trainers. They're
great for young people. What I would recommend is going to somebody like the trainer I have who's also a naturopathic physician, and she does movement screens and she'll actually look at your body at rest and moving and say, okay, well these are this is your imbalance and then this is how you compensate when you move. You have to know this, and when you know this, you can work around it and get yourself back into balance. And then you can start to challenge yourself and then you won't
get injured. You'll just make progress. That's the goal.
Fantastic place to take a break. Thank you so much, gentlemen for introducing this. Andrew and Bruce will be right back everyone, and Bruce, I'll get you to start off.
When we come back, every.
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Hi everyone, I'm Genevieve Wisdom.
Welcome back to Walk with Wisdom, a podcast on youthful aging, looking good, feeling amazing as you age, especially forty and over. I have two amazing gentlemen here today, Andrew and Bruce. They're both experts in so many areas. You can go back and listen at the beginning of your show when I injured used Andrew and Bruce has been with us now for Oh my goodness, Bruce, has it been like five or six shows?
Can you mess number five?
Yes?
Yes, yes, absolutely, so everyone go back look at our last shows. The reason why I want these men here is we're talking about menopause, hormonal changing, and I didn't want to leave the men out. Andrew, Bruce, I never believe in leaving the men out because we all change, and we all change as we get younger, as I like to call it.
Bruce, can you do a comment before we do that? Everyone?
Thank you, by the way for doing all the comments that you're doing on our lives, which is YouTube LinkedIn Facebook.
I see the comments. What's really helpful for us?
Because the show is so packful of information, we don't really have time right now to go through your questions.
Send us an email.
Bruce and I share the same email Wisdom at Walk with Wisdom dot Ca. If you wanted to talk to Andrew directly or get his contact, send an email, and that's the best way for us to talk. Bruce, what do you think about what Andrew said last time about you know, big pe little P.
I was concerned at first. Thank you you clarify that well, I think.
I mean, obviously it's our self talk that talks us out of doing all these things. You know, let's go for a walk while it's raining. I don't have a war enough code, so the self talk's really important. I get that, But I'd like to skip to the stabilizing part. I heard somebody say a while ago, and I don't
know if it's true or not. Maybe you can support me on this or back me up, Andrew, but people over sixty A greater percentage of people who are sixty can't get off the ground without assistance of grabbing a coffee table or a chair or something. And if you go back to what you're talking about with stabilizing and the different exercises you're talking about, all of these would help someone be able to get off off the ground, which is very important because then you've got a fallen
I can't get up scenario. And so is that kind of that is that sort of an accurate thing? Have you heard that before?
Well, I don't know the exact statistics, but there are if you look around at our society, you'll see a great many people who have walking dysfunction. They can't run, they can't put the shoes and socks on without sitting on something. You know, tying up your shoelaces becomes more
of an issue as you get older. So yeah, I see it, and you know, when I got injured or when I get it sedentary, the first thing that tightens up is my low back, and it's tough to tie my shoelaces, put my shoes on, even getting into your pants can be hard. So you know, this is a very functional thing to pay attention to as we get older.
Yeah, that's kind of where I was, That's kind of what I was thinking with this. I thought it was really interesting thinking about just day to day things we do. But moving from there, how about defining andropause for us, like really nailing it down.
Well, Andrew, pause isn't actually a definable condition like menopause is, because that's got a whole culture and a medical science
around it. And Andrew, pause is actually when the testosterone level drops to a level to a lowest, to a low level where you actually notice that you are putting weight on that you don't have energy that you're cranky all the time, that you're losing muscle mass, and you generally are getting weaker, and it's gotten to a point where the effects have stacked and your level is low enough that you have a noticeable difference from saying a year before, or two years before or three years before.
So it's where it becomes noticeable that men think, oh, I'm an andropause. But actually it's a gradual decline in testosterone coupled with being sedentary and high stress and poor eating patterns. So that's the good news. The good news is it isn't a definable condition. It has more to do with what you're not doing and it than what's happening with your body particularly well.
I hope that may guarded something recently. Yeah, thank you, that was a good answer. Actually, thank you for that. I've started taking something recently, testosterone matrix, and there's no testosterone in it. So how does it work?
Do you do?
You know the product?
I think I do. I'm a little familiar with it. It's manufactured by actually the company that I do the medical education for it. Testosterone Matrix actually is a is a great product for men who want to boost their testosterone two normal levels. It's going to it's not going to be like testosterone replacement therapy, but it's a good stop gap and used in conjunction with measures that reduce your body fat, like exercising, like cutting down the starch,
eating more proteins. You will start to notice a difference in your testosterone level. And the first thing you will notice when your testosterone level improves is that your personality you'll become. You'll develop a sense of humor again, you won't be as cranky, you will start to have more energy, you will not be as depressed, you will actually be able to focus. Because the all of these things are
related to testosterone. Now they could be related to other hormones and neurotransmitters, but when a testosterone is a mixture of a couple of different ingredients, some of them are nutrients which are correlated as low when you have low testosterone, So things like zinc inviting in B six and magnesium and the two big ingredients that do all the he be lifting. One is called ogonda. And I'm sure some of your viewers or most of them must know, oshwaganda.
It's a it's a botanical that comes from India from the arivetic system of medicine. And this is an extract. And this extract actually has been shown in clinical studies to actually improve strength, stamina, and testosterone levels in published studies. So the dosage used is usually the equivalent of what you would find in three capsules of testosterone matrix. You
will actually start to see a change in cortisol. There's a reduction in the study period which was I believe some of the studies were eight weeks, some of them were twelve weeks. You can see a cortisol reduction. In cortisol's your stress hormone. It gets reduced by about twenty eight percent. You need to start to see self reported scales of depression improving by eighty percent. You also start to see other trials they've shown and that strength increases substantially.
So for example, testosteron levels went up, body fat percentage went down, and muscle size went up as evidenced by
increased muscle strength and muscle size. So these I would say, with this particular formula, you probably want to be on it at the label dose of one capsule three times per day for a minimum of about a month before you start seeing changes it's and again again it's not going to be like getting a shot of testosterone, because that is an actual hormone that has a negative feedback where it actually cuts down on your normal testosterone production.
And this is a great product for men who are still making testosterone whose level has kind of decreased, and there will come a time in your life where you might need the actual hormone. But with activity, keeping your body composition lean and cutting out the sugar, you can probably prolong that as long as possible. I hope that answers your question.
Yeah, yeah, very much, thank you.
I'm going to jump in here, gentlemen, just for a moment, so those of you who heard this product that Bruce is taking, I let Bruce talk a little bit more. However, Wisdom at walkwwisdom dot Ca, we can actually get.
That product to you.
Bruce and I do coaching, so we coach you integratively on what these supplements are. So all the things that Andrew's talked about their nutrice uticles, go back and look at the other watch the other videos, please, because you see what a nutrice uticle is. So when Andrew talks about what's in the testosterone matrix, they've actually done studies around it wisdom at walkw wisdom dot Ca.
You can get fifteen percent off. Send me Bruce and I and email hey, we would like to get that. I'm happy to introduce you to it in that way, and Bruce and I are also.
Available for coaching. We can go over more of what Andrew talked about because Andrew, thank you. It's a wealth of information. We can't get it all in the show, so that's why Bruce and I are available to do it later on. Bruce, we have about a minute before we take a break. Can you do a little wrap up on just what Andrew said about this amazing product.
Well, I'm looking forward to the results. I just started taking it a week or so ago. I was wondering why I didn't have bursting muscles so quickly. But now I understand you did say though. You did say though best with exercise.
I heard that.
So if you just took this provac you didn't exercise, would you feel any different.
I'll get you to answer that answer that when we come back. Andrew, We're going to just take a short break to hear from our valued sponsors. And when we're back, Andrew's going to answer that.
Thank you everyone. We'll see you right back. Hi everyone, I'm Jennevieve Wisdom. Welcome back to Walk with Wisdom. We're here today with Andrew and Bruce. We're talking about men's health and youthful aging over forty for the men. Now there is so much here. We can't believe how fast the time has gone. Already, Andrew, you're going to have to come back and continue on what we started, especially about having our valued viewers.
By the way, lots of comments.
Andrew asking about specifically what they can do, and so you gave a foundation. But now we're talking about nutraceuticals and supplementation. Bruce, I think you asked the question just before the break.
Yeah, we're talking about testosterone matrix.
Is that right?
That's right, testosterone matrix. And when you were talking about it, you said, take it and exercise. If you don't exercise, will have any value on your testosterone levels?
I would say depends. But if you don't exercise in your level of stress is up there and who is whose isn't You will definitely notice a difference because the other effect of the oshuaganda and the fanw Greek and the nutrients in there is to actually regulate that cortisol level and bring it into normal range, so you will improve your sleep, improve your ability to get up in
the morning, and your motivation. So yes, I would say it is, but it's not going to be as as tremendous as if you are training and exercising, just because when you're exercising and you're moving, anything you do becomes amplified. So but yes, when I work with clinics and then bring the product in, they notice a definite difference within the first four week period.
Tabos, Thank you so much, Jed, Andrew, thank you, Thank you so much for your wealth of information.
Everyone.
Obviously this was just an introduction, and Andrew, there's so many more nutriceuticles that can go with the testosterone matrix. Bruce and I when we started, we talked about the stacking effect of nutrice uticles. Could you come back, maybe, let's say next week and continue on this amazing topic of Andrew pause, menopause useful aging for men.
Do you think you're around next Friday time?
Same place I can make myself available.
I appreciate that, Bruce.
I would love to have just your feedback, a little wrap up on what Andrew said today, I.
Think it's really exciting to know that there is a there's a way out of this light at the end of the tunnel, if you would. I think the clear part is, though, start gentle work into it. Get get a what you sorry, I'm going to check my notes here because it was a new one for me. Movement screen. Get a movement screen so that you can actually start working and strengthening those parts of your body you need to so you don't hurt yourself. Don't don't pick up
that pickleball racket and think what a great idea. You'll blow out your ankles, you'll blowt your knees or potentially, so get the screen. Start exercise, start stretching, and move slowly into it.
As long as you have a goal at the end.
If pickleball is your goal, great, but build to it, I think is what I've sort of gathered today from Andrew. As well as when you're doing that, you lose your gut hopefully and you build your testosterone, so it's win win win.
Fantastic and ladies, I know last show, Bruce encouraged that we want to join in because I know a lot of times gentlemen I think you know this. The ladies, we will push the guys to you know, because men they take care of the big picture, so sometimes they don't like you. And like you said, Andrew, Andrew Pause is in a stage like us. It's not a definite stage. It's slowly declined. So a lot of times men just put their head down, they're working and next thing you know,
they're in a situation and they don't know what to do. So, ladies, all of you have as we've been talking about menopause and youthful aging, please let the men in your life know about this now, Andrew and Bruce knows this. The whole promise of this podcast is youthful aging, looking good and feeling amazing beauty from the outside in. So when we started talking about this podcast, those of us who know me like you know that I have an organic skincare line and they were just going, you have to
talk about the skincare line and soul. I'm going to talk about skincare a little bit for men, you know, on the men a Pause side. If you look good, if you have great skin, even if you're sweating, you've gained weight, now you've got lines. But if you have an organic skincare, organic being important that it doesn't put all the stuff in your body that now your liver and your gut and all the other things have to detoxify.
Your skin looks amazing, you feel good. There is something that the men actually like.
And do you guys use skincare? Andrew? First, do you use anything on your face?
Okay?
I do?
I do, just that's it.
Just a moisturizer, Bruce.
I use an organic concentrated moisturizer as an aftershave. So after shave in the morning, I apply a bit of the cream.
So I do too perfect Well.
I have an entire line and it's called Revived twenty five Revive twenty five skincare dot com. And I'm gonna get you both as sample of what's called resveratrol toner, and both of you will know that because as we talk about aging and pain, there's an antioxidant component that just really helps everything work better. So this toner, it's amazing and men love it. My husband is in construction now, the guys are gonna know that he wears skincare. When I met the man, I got him an apple stem
cell face wash. But what he loves Is this toner because you just sprayed on, it's not greasy for you guys, but it.
Actually has your skin look looking good. And we have about just a.
Minute or so left, but Andrew and Bruce just thirty seconds each on this. Does it work for guys the same way?
If you get up and you look at your skin and you go, oh my.
Gosh, I'm getting younger and you look good on your skin, do you feel better to go and do take the dog for a walk, or when you put your suit on, do you have a little bit more of a thing like women do.
Me.
I don't even think about it because I I'm a little bit of a cap addict and I have a lot of hats that I put on, but you cover it up. But after the dog walk and I'm getting ready, then I actually look at my skin because especially you know my forehead, and because you know I have a beard, so I don't really shave that much anymore. So, yeah, skin health is really important.
Absolutely well, absolutely well. There is veratrol actually freshens the face, so you can spray your face, put on your cap or your suit and your done. Bruce, what about you do do you think if you look at your face and the skin looks better for a man. Does that make you feel better like us girls?
I'm not.
I've been thinking about since you asked it. They don't really pay that much attention to my skin, but I pay attention to what I put on it. And this is something I think all those all those classic after Shafey buyer all chemicals. Remember if you're putting it on your skin and going into your body. So really, this is why I like your your your your products, jen is they're organic. If they go into your body, it's
not a bad thing. Reserve trolls an antioxidant. So I would suggest looking at what you're putting on your skin because it won't look good if you keep putting chemicals on it.
And by the way, Cido matrix has a resvera matrix. Remember at beauty from the outside in. So we pull the toner on the outside, we take the nutraceutical, which, as you heard from Andrew, it's research.
Backed with a lot of studies. You take that on the inside, you have a better result.
Wisdom at Walkwiwisdom dot Ca, Bruce and I can coach and counsel you and get in touch with Andrew if you have any questions. Gentlemen, Thank you so much. And Andrew's coming back next week.
We heard that. Thank you so much, gentlemen for coming, Thanks.
For having me.
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