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Vulnerable to Fraud

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Amy King hosts your Thursday Wake Up Call. ABC News correspondent LIVE from Jerusalem Jordana Miller starts the show sharing the latest surrounding the Israel-Hamas War. ABC News journalist overseeing transportation coverage Sam Sweeney comes on the show to talk about the FAA releasing instructions for airlines to begin inspecting their Boeing 737 Max 9 planes. Amy speak sto former FBI agent and current Crime and Terrorism Analyst for ABC News Brad Garrett about Venmo, Zalle, CashApp leaving users vulnerable to fraud, what to look out for, and how you can protect yourself. The show closes with ABC News reporter LIVE from London Tom Rivers discussing a United States scientist recommending adding salt to make the perfect cup of tea, horrifying tea drinkers everywhere.

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You're listening to KFI AM six forty wake Up Call with Me Amy King on demand on the iHeartRadio app KFI hand KOST HD two, Los Angeles, Orange County. It's time for your morning wake up call. Here's Amy Kig. This is your wake up call for Thursday, January twenty fifth. Good morning, I'm Amy King. It's five o'clock straight up. Time to get up, get going, get your coffee, get dressed, got another day on your way. It's a good thing, right, I mean, the option

is not great. What option if you didn't wake up? Oh yeah, there's that. And hey, we got all kinds of stuff coming up on wake up call. Can't wait to tell you all about it. Gonna get you all caught up on what's been going on. We got it. We had some shaking. Did you feel it, Cono, I see that your eyes got really big. Yeah. It was about three miles from my house. The episode. Oh so you got a pretty good jolt. Oh yeah, definitely a generalin rush. Yeah. Did it last very long? No,

but it was not like a roller. It was like like a house. Yeah. It was loud and yeah, it was a good reminder if we have earthquakes You guys should have seen Cono's face. Right when I said it. His eyes got like the biggest, biggest saucers. Yeah, it was sorry. It was the saddest thing. My three year old. It was her first earthquake, so her pupils were so dilated of fear that you couldn't even see the brown of her eyes. Oh, it was so sad. She'll get used to it well, hopefully. Yeah. We live in

southern California. Chargers got a new coach, Jim Harbaugh, coming back to the Bolts Max nine planes could be flying soon. We're gonna dig a little deeper into that. And surprise, it's raining. I woke up this morning. I was like, wait a second, the rain was supposed to be gone. But the good news is it's supposed to end and we have a beautiful weekend on the way. Here's what's ahead on wake up call. As

I just mentioned, a little shaky in the Southland. A four point two earthquake rattled sam Bernardino last night, shortly before eight, not far from a quake that hit the area less than three weeks ago. The US Geological Survey says it was felt in La and Orange Counties, centered two miles from Sam Bernardino about three miles from Cono's house. A lawmaker in California has asked the

DEA to make the so called zombie drug a controlled substance. Amazing that it isn't already, He says, the designation of the drug that goes by the street named Trank would give police power to make arrests and restrict the drugs trafficking. He stresses that more needs to be done to get Trank off the streets you think. John Stewart is returning to the Daily Show. He'll be hosting

Monday nights through the twenty twenty four elections, starting next month. The Daily Show's been using guest hosts as it continues to look for a permanent replacement for Trevor Noah he retired in twenty twenty two. Stuart left the show in twenty fifteen at six oh five. It's handle on the news, Alabama has been given the ok to try something new with an execution. Let's get started with

some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Investigators in San Bernardino still working to identify the six people killed in the high desert near Adalanto. Five of the bodies were found along a dirt road Tuesday night, near cars or in cars. The sixth was discovered yesterday morning. A retired FBI agent says the level of violence speaks to a broader criminal network, possibly drug or cartel related. He says it appears they were shot and set

on fire. One of the two cars found with the bodies in it had its windows blown out. LAPD Chief mor says twenty twenty three was a much safer year for the city than the year before. Morsays there were three hundred and twenty seven homicides last year. That's down seventeen percent from the year before.

The Chief gave his final year in crime report yesterday alongside mere baths, So it was much more work to be done, and I'm proud of the measure will results that has been achieved, but I also recognized that the perception of safety remains a concern across this great city. More says violent crime went down significantly, but property crime remains a problem. Moore retires next month.

A mayor Bass said she's proud of Moore's accomplishment. Coming in as mayor, I was very clear that my number one job was keeping Angelinos safe at LAPD headquarters. Steve Gregor king if I News Hollywood Burbank Airport is about to break round on construction of a new passenger terminal. Officials say the replacement terminal will have fourteen gates and will resolve some long standing safety and accessibility issues with the

current terminal. The project is known as Elevate bur or Burbank. State and local government officials, airport authority commissioners, and airport staff are going to be in Burbank this morning for the groundbreaking ceremony. I was just there yesterday. I love that airport. Alaska Airlines says it plans to get some of its Boeing seven thirty seven Max nine planes back in the air following rigorous inspections.

ABC's Andy Field says United Airlines Max nine should return to scheduled service starting Sunday. The FAA releasing instructions for all airlines to ensure their Max nine planes are safe as well, the agency telling Boeing it cannot expand that model's production rate while it continues its safety investigation. The planes are grounded for inspections when a door plug fell off in Alaska flight in air last month. The FAA says

this must never happen again. We're going to be talking to ABC's Sam Sweeney more about this, coming up in about fifteen minutes. NASA remembers those who lost their lives in their quest to explore space. The annual Day of Remembrance ceremony is happening today at the Kennedy Space Center. NASA will commemorate the crews

of Apollo one and space shuttles Challenger and Columbia. NASA Administrator Bill Nelson says, while it's a solemn day, we should be forever thankful that those fallen heroes shared their spirit of exploration with NASA, our country, and the world. Let's say good morning now to ABC's Geordana Miller in Jerusalem. Jordana, a new Seaspire maybe in the works. You know, from the media reports, it would seem the New Seasfires in the works. But here on the

ground in Jerusalem and in the region, it doesn't look that way. We're getting all kinds of signs that the sides are still very far apart. Hamas even sending word to mediators last night, messages that ran on Israeli primetime news that they have hardened their position. They don't want to discuss any release of hostages until the end of the war, which they've said before, but now they want their leadership intact their rule over the Gaza Strip maintained, every Israeli

soldier out of every inch of the Gaza Strip. You know, these are non starters from the Israeli point of view, and it tells us that Hamas feels like they have the stronger hand right now. They are down, you know, keeping those hostages in tunnels deep underground, and there's fear fighting going

on in southern Gaza still and apparently they're they're waiting it out. Yeah, it's interesting when you were saying that and you said that Hamas is feeling strong, and my initial reaction when you're saying that that they're digging in their heels and saying that, it's like, wow, it sounds like they're kind of

getting desperate to me and you know way better than me. I'm just that was my initial take on it. So right, they are actually Hamas thinks they're in a position of strength because there's so much pressure here by the families of the hostages that it appears Seymour and Hamas are waiting for Israel to stop the military operation, the war in southern Gaza, to call it off and then say, okay, we've stopped fighting, let's discuss the hostage release,

let's discuss it now, and that it's not going to happen. I believe in that. But that's what Hamas is banking on. Every day they wait. They think that the government comes under more pressure, they might cave. It's each side is waiting for the other to cave. Newel Nataniel thinks that if scenewar can hear the tanks rolling above him, he'll start to get really panicked and maybe he'll cave. So we're in a you know, we're in a waiting period, I think, and not so close to a deal.

Yeah, And as those talks sort of continue, the fighting continues. And we're just getting word today too that like a dozen people were killed in a strike in a shelter in Gaza. Have you heard anything about that one? Absolutely I have, because it was initially, you know, initially the head of the UN Palestinian Refugee Agency implied that it was Israel, saying that tank fired hit the UN building where there are thousands of gossins. Sheltering at least

twelve dead fifteen others we hear in critical condition. But as it turns out, after Israel looked at all of its operational information and did a review, the Israeli Army said last night, no, we did not, We weren't. We didn't fire tanks on that un position, we didn't hit it with any air strikes. And Israel said, this is likely a case of errant Hamas rocket fire or errant Hamas RPG fire and not the Israeli Army. So you know, this is what happens in war, and there's always mistakes that

Hamas makes and rockets that don't make it to southern Israel. And then just in this war, we're finally we're seeing it because of the intensity of the war and the length of the war. But in all the other conflicts I can tell you that I reported on, there were also always cases of rockets that didn't make it into Israly territory. And I think Israel has some street cred on this one because when they do make mistakes, they mess up to

them. They're like, oh my gosh, yes we did do that, And that's happened a couple of times so I would tend to believe them when they're like, that's right, now, this wasn't us. And there have I remember from our conversations a month or two ago, where there have been some Hamas rockets that didn't quite hit their target and landed and killed civilians the right, I mean, the greatest, the biggest example was that hospital that was hit in the very early days of the war. You know that immediately

everyone assumed it was Israel, but it was a Aaron Tomas rocket. Yeah, okay. So and again, while this all goes on, we know that Africa went to the UN Court of Justice and they're demanding a ceasefire, along with a bunch of other people. But they went to the Court of Justice to do to make their case. When are we expecting a decision on that? Well, Israel is bracing itself for that decision, which is supposed

to come down tomorrow Friday at one o'clock local time in the Hague. That's two o'clock Israeli time, even o'clock seven am Eastern, and everyone's going to be watching this ruling. It is a very important ruling. They've been asked to put in a provisional injunction, in other words, imposing calling on Israel to hold its fire and imposing a cease fire to prevent the claims of genocide, which, by the way, Israel in the United States and many people

call a bogus charge in any case. But the court will rule whether it can put a provisional injunction to stop the war, and if it does, it's a serious it's a serious case because then it will likely go to the UN Security Council and Israel will be looking for the United States to veto it. But the court could actually say something in between nothing and that order. The Court could say, Hey, we're calling on Israel to put in you know, to allow in two hundred more trucks of eight to day. We're

calling on Israel to allow gosins in the south to go north. We're calling in on Israel to sin out their troops or they may do something in a grayer area to protect Palestinian lives instead of calling for the war to actually, you know, pause. So everyone's going to be watching. And then Israel's Prime minister is holding several meetings today to prepare for different responses. Okay, and then my other question regarding that is if the UN Court of Justice comes

out and says, hey, you got to do a cease fire? Is there anything binding does Israel? I? Mean? What would the repercussions be if Israel says nope, We're continuing our efforts. So the ruling is legally binding but not enforceable. So that's why the court would then go to the

UN Security Council, which is both binding and enforceable. Right, and that's so so the more the most crucial ruling would really come from the OUN Security Council, but they're unit would likely use its veto, so it's but it still would be you know, it still would be an important ruling because it would go it would you know, pave a pathway to go to the UN Security Council. Okay, so it's it is a critical ruling, Okay, so we'll be watching for that tomorrow morning. Okay, all right, right

An Jordana Miller, thank you so much for your insight and information. Uh. You always give us the best information and we appreciate it because a lot of times it's hard to get good information. So thank you, thanks so much. All Right, we'll talk to you soon. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Amtrak and Metrolink service between Orange and San Diego Counties has been suspended again after another

landslide in San Clementy. Our entire slope is unstable and we're going to continue to deal with hillside risk if we don't figure out like an overall solution to the instability of the slope. Orange County Supervisor Katrina Foley says more slides could happen. It's just a sandy soil hillside and it's not there's enough bed rock in the hillside to make sure that it stays secure. The landslide late yesterday covered the tracks with boulder and debris. It's not clear when service between Irvine

and Oceanside will be restored. Neighbors say they're fed up with wild parties hosted by squatters at a home in Beverly Hills. People living in the area have called the police several times since last October when the squatters allegedly took over. Franz Solomon owns the property next door and says her tenants have had to suffer through the late night parties and they have a pitbull that sometimes ends up wandering into the streets. There are children in this neighborhood. There are children and

grandchildren. Lapd says the home has been abandoned for months and when the police respond to the nuisance calls, the people inside are able to show proof of residency. Police said in a statement yesterday the lender will have to go through a formal eviction process to get the tenants out. Chris Adler KFI News. Delta's been named the top airline in twenty twenty three by The Wall Street Journal. It's the airline's third consecutive win on the annual list. Alaska is the

runner up, not including the Boeing seven thirty seven Max nine grounding. This month, Allegiant Air jumped to number three, south West ranked fourth, and Jet Blue came in last. The list ranks airlines by on time arrivals, cancelations, delays, baggage handling, and complaints. Getting home insurance in California going to be even tougher now that the Hartford has announced it will no longer offer new homeowners policies starting next month. Existing policies will be renewed. Seven

of the top twelve insurers in California have stopped offering new policies. Many have said it's because of state regulations and the risk of wildfires. Former President Trump's defamation trial resumes today in New York. He's expected to be there, not sure if he's going to testify. The trial was delayed because of concerns at a juror one of Trump's lawyers had been exposed to COVID. This trial is to determine how much money author Ejen Carol will get, if any, after

Trump was found liable of defaming her. Carol is asking for ten million dollars. The Los Angeles Chargers have a new coach. Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh, fresh off a National Championship win, is headed back to the NFL. He coached the forty nine Ers from twenty eleven to twenty fourteen. Harbaugh was also a quarterback for the Chargers in the nineties. At six oh five, It's

handled on the news. The Supreme Court says border agents can take down razor wire along the Texas border with Mexico, but Texas isn't giving up the fight just yet. Let's say good morning now to ABC's Transportation Unit correspondent Sam Sweeney. Sam, you know it's serious when you end up on Capitol Hill, tell us what's going on with Boeing. J Calhoun requested meetings with senators on

Capitol Hill. This is a CEO who is on damage control and he's facing tough questions from these senators who are going to call for public hearings in the wake of this disaster for Boeing. But we've learned overnight that the FAA has now come up with a plan that is from Boeing and signed off by the

FAA that will allow these planes to get back into the air. Alaska Airline says their seven thirty seven Max nine will be back in the air by tomorrow, and United Airlines says that their Max nines will be back in the air

by Sunday. So certainly good news for airlines there. Yeah, and I saw that with Alaska, and I've had some friends talk to me about saying, oh, I don't know if I'm going to fly Alaska, And I was thinking now is probably the best time to fly Alaska because they had to probably go through these planes, you know, from nose to tail and really

make sure that everything's as it should be. Yeah, they are checking these planes They're not taking any chances, and the FAA even said, look, speed is not going to determine when these planes get back in the air. It's all based on safety. And the essay has their inspectors in rent in Washington looking over the equality you know, assurance issues that they now assume that caused this problem. You know, this is a brand new airplane that just

started flying in November. Maintenance workers at Alaska hadn't even looked at this part of the plane. It wouldn't normally be looked at until it went through a

heavy maintenance check in roughly two to three years. The airlines also have their own auditors at Boeing and today at Renton, Washington, where the seven thirty seven Max is produced, they are shutting down all operations and they're having a day where employees can meet with executives and the safety teams to go over you know, quality assurance practices to make sure that this type of issue stops, no corners are being cut, and that these planes that are leaving the factory

or space okay. And then what are the things is Boeing do doing. I know that you mentioned that the CEO, Dave Calhoun, you know was in Washington, d C. Yesterday. But what kinds of things has Boeing done or will they be doing to try to repair this reputation that has I've really taken a tough hit because not only the door popped off, but then they had a wheel fall off, and they had a seven forty seven had to turn back. I mean, they've had several several issues come up in

just the last couple of weeks. Yeah, this is going to be tough. Boeing has to earn the trust of the American public and their customers back. And you know, we've heard an earnings call this week that airlines are

having second thoughts about placing more orders with boone. You think about it, if your entire company is based on these planes, you know, you look at the airlines and maybe huge orders from Boeing and they get them, and then a year or two in they have to ground them and cancel all these

flights and they're losing millions of dollars. Do you want to put that risk there or do you want to say, hm, maybe we should take a look at Airbus or another company and we can you know, have a little bit more assurance that our operation is going to be smooth, and that's what they're looking at. You know, United hasn't canceled or none of the airlines have canceled their orders yet, but they are certainly coming up with contingency plans

in the case that they do look elsewhere. Okay, but the good news in this is the FA has its guidelines on how to check them, and Alaska is saying they're pretty much wrapping up their safety checks and their planes are going to be flying again very soon. That's the good news, all right, Sam Sweeney, thank you so much. If you'd like to follow Sam, you can follow him at Sweeney SWEE n E Y ABC. Thanks again

for taking the time. Thanks Amy Sia. All right, let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Four point two magnitude earthquake has jolted San Bernardino County and our very own KNO. The US Geological surveyces the quake last night was less than two miles away from the city center a depth of almost ten miles. Many people in the Inland Empire said it was a strong, short quake. People as far away

as San Diego reported feeling the earthquake. Family members of a man fatally hit by an LAPD car say they want the officer to face charges. Family of Luisa Spinosa's file a claim against LA. Attorney Michael Correo says the officer's lights and sirens were on when she hit Espinosa, even though she was not responding to an emergency. Furthermore, career alleges the officer was speeding. This officer needs to be held accountable for her actions. Espinosa was jaywalking when he was

hit last month. He died at a hospital. The DIA's office said yesterday that the case is under review. Blake Trolly k if I News. The Supreme Court has ruled Alabama can execute a death row inmate with nitrogen gas. ABC's Steve Osinsami says it'll be the first attempt to use a new execution method since lethal injection was introduced in nineteen eighty two. Issue is that states are having trouble getting the medications they need to perform lethal injections. Both Oklahoma and

Mississippi are allowing the use of nitrogen, but neither have tried again. Alabama claims the nitrogen will be humane, but critics call it cruel and experimental. Kenneth Smith is scheduled to die tonight for the murder for higher killing of a woman in nineteen eighty eight. Saw this come out just yesterday. I think

it's another example big brothers striking again. California lawmakers are looking at a plan to require governors be put on vehicles, and we're talking about speed governors, so you put the pedal to the medal and it's only going to go so fast. A bill is making its way through the state legislature that would require the governors to be installed on all new vehicles, and the result of it would be basically that a car couldn't go faster than eighty if there was a

seventy mile per hour zone, and that's on new cars. And Ann and I started talking about this yesterday because I was just like going, you know, I mean, you shouldn't go more than ten miles per hour, but darn it if I need to. You know, I don't think that the government should be restricting me. And the other thing, you'd start thinking about the practical result of this. So this would be on all new vehicles, so they'd have to have sensors on them and they'd have to be tied to

every single speed sign in the state. So think about the infrastructure that would have to go into that to replace every single speed sign in the state to make sure that the cars would be, you know, talking to the speed signs and then restricting your how fast you could go. I just think this is another case of huge overreach. It does have initial support from lawmakers,

so I think we should be watching this one. This is just ugh, it's just infuriating, and I don't think Sammy Hagar would like it either. Cono got it, okay. Amtrak and Metrolink service has been suspended between Irvine and Ocean Side because of a landslide in San Clementy that covered the tracks with mud and debris and boulders as well. Buses were used to get passengers around the slide. A pedestrian bridge above the tracks is also closed because officials say

the hillside is unstable. It's not clear when the tracks will reopen. A lawmaker in California has asked the DEEA to make the so called zombie drug a controlled substance. He says the designation of the drugs that goes by the street name trank because it has horse tranquilizer in it would give police the power to make arrests and restrict the drugs trafficking. The lawmaker stresses more needs to be done to get it off the streets. John Stuart coming back to the Daily

Show. He'll be hosting Monday nights through the twenty twenty four elections, starting next month. The Daily Show's been using guest hosts since it lost permanent host Trevor Noah in twenty twenty two. Stuart left the show in twenty fifteen. At six oh five, Tandle on the news forget everything you've heard because crime is down in LA. At five point fifty, Tom Rivers has something salty for tea lovers. But right now, let's say good morning to ABC's crime

and Terrorism analyst Brad Garrett. Brad, Now, they're coming after our digital money. It's not digital money, but they're coming after our Venmo and our and our cash app and our Zell. What's going on? So think about it this way that everyone that you just mentioned, among some others are tied to banks typically like Zell for example, is tied to my Wells Fargo accounts. So it's supposed to be safe exactly, and so, and I think, let's start with I think by and large it is safe. Okay,

However, it's also an attractive target. And the reason why is because hundreds of millions of US on a given day use one of these apps. I mean, the FTC said that two point six billion dollars was stolen from US through fraud off these apps. Now, so how do you how do they

go about this? What typically happens is the following that they send out a text message representing either one of the app companies, let's say Zel, PayPal, et cetera, and saying there's a complication or a potential fraud issue with your account and we'll be contacting you shortly. So then someone calls and then they represent either the bank or the app, uh, you know, Zell,

et cetera. And so what happens is they say there's an issue, we want to correct it, and so they you know, they smooth talk you for a period of time, and they either already have your account number because they've they've gotten it through a breach previously, or they talk you into whatever reason in authenticating your account to give them your account number, which I

can't imagine anyone doing. But apparently it happens. But the real key here maybe is that they need two factor authentication to actually get into your bank account. Like you know, when you make a PayPal payment, for example, they send you to your phone a six digit code and then you put it in and then you know it goes through and you've paid for whatever life goes

on. They can convince them, apparently some people that to test this out to see if they can figure out they being Zell et cetera, that there's fraud occurring, that they want you to go onto your account, get the two factor authentication, give it to them like them right, yes, okay, right, And so again I can't imagine this happening, but apparently it happens thousands of times. Two points. You give a billion dollars worth the

times, there is no doubt and so they get it. They go into your account and they wipe your account so they can get it all out of them. So you can see, if you are persistent and you have a good story that you're going to find. You know, maybe older folks, folks that you know aren't really thinking about you know, is this real? Is it not real? Or folks that are in a hurry. Apparently they end up targeting the young folks. Young adults that are in a hurry,

you know, are tech driven. I got to get to a meeting and I get to get online, and they get these calls and they you know, they're thinking, well, I pay so many different people with my Venmo account and I can't have it down or can but it's in a pain. And so what happens is that they sort of bite on the roots and that's all they need. You know, you could work off of percentages if you're the bad guy, and that happens with all sorts of scams. It's all

about volume and if they can get X number of us to bite. I mean, you know, if you can get billions of dollars doing it, why wouldn't you if that's what you're inclined to do. Yeah, and it's so crazy because they're actually getting your help to steal your money. Well, I mean that happens in a legitimate settings too. Let's let's be it just happens. But yeah, smooth talking folks and folks that don't think through. You know, my advice is if you get a text message saying there of

the bank or Zell, delete it, don't even deal with it. If they call you know, there's nothing wrong with your account, saying I'm not talking to you, you're a fraud. Hang up, and then call Bank of America, Wells Fargo, whomever it might be, and say, did you discontact me because of issues with my Zell account? And the bread the other thing with that that I was just going to ask you about that.

When you call your bank, but call a published number to your bank, don't call a number that they give you their Oh, you could reach out to us at this number, don't call that number. Call go to the website or go to your bank statement or whatever and find the actual real number. Well that's right. In fact, if they send you an email, for example, or even in a text message where they say Bank of America, and they may give a legitimate address for let's say a location for Bank

of America, the phone number won't match the bank. It'll be to somebody impersonating the bank when you call it. So but people bite on that wore They get an email that you know, with a letterhead in the email that looks very much like let's say, Bank of America's logo yep, and then adding a level of legitimacy, like, well, that's that's got to be them, that's their little flag or whatever it might be that they use, and of course it's not them at all, and now they've got you.

Yeah, and I just in the last week have getten received like three different notifications from what looks like PayPal, and I actually think it was PayPal because somebody's requesting money. Yeah, and then and then PayPal catches it, and then they go, oh, we canceled the request. You don't need to take any action, and you can go in and look, and they actually do request the money and then PayPal cancels it. So they're catching it.

But it's just scary because like what if they don't catch it and then you've got nine taken out? Well, that's that's exactly right. And you know, and this occurs in other arenas obviously. Every day, people sending you to surveys on things like, you know, the water in Los Angeles. You know, we're doing a study on the water, and you know, it's a way to get malware on your computer and then steal all your credentials. I mean, it's just it's almost like you don't. You don't have

time to work. You have to monitor your computer and phone all day long to make sure you don't get scammed. I know. Okay, So just a couple other quick tips on ways to protect yourself. Okay. So the key is, like I said, anything in a text message, absolutely delete, okay, phone calls, emails, and you know, and you think in your own mind, okay, well I used zel last week that went through. It's to you know, the guy who cuts my lawn, whomever

it might be. And you have to stop and think about, well, how could there be a discrepancy because I know about all the payments you think. You have to think skeptically. That you got to you got to train yourself to think skeptically. And then, as I mentioned earlier, don't deal with folks over the phone, don't deal with folks with text messages, and then turn around and call the bank or just ignore it saying this is just absolutely blowney and go on with your life. I mean that's what I do.

I just delete all of it and keep going because I know it's it's not true. Yeah, I do that too. I go through and I delete stuff and then I go I hope that wasn't real, you know, Well, if it's real, If it's real, though, I mean, they'll actually you'll figure out a way. There'll be a more legitimate way, and it'll be a number that you know, it'll be somebody at the bank, you've talked, it'll be all those things that click into it's real.

Okay. So the takeaway is just be careful, be alert, and you have to be more cynical because there's bad guys out there trying to take your money every day, at every angle. Unfortunately. Yeah, and thanks to you, Brad, hopefully some people are not going to get scammed because we know what to look for. Now. Appreciate your We can only hope, we can only hope. So you got it. Thank you so much, Brad. Talk to you soon. Let's get back to some of the stories.

All right, take care, Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Jurors have to decide if second degree murder or voluntary manslaughters appropriate for a man charged with shooting a six year old boy in Orange. Both lawyers used Marcus the Reza's video confession to shooting Aiden Laos in twenty twenty one because the boy's mom flipped him off.

Senior Deputy da Dan Feldman says the guy admitted intent and implied malice. This is a trained gun owner who brought his gun to deal with what he thought the threat was a woman's finger. But Senior Public Defender Randall Bethune said yesterday, Areez repeatedly tells police he doesn't know why shot the gun, so no malice or intent. There is no evidence whatsoever that misteries knew the child was in car. The difference is twenty five or forty years to life in prison

at the OC Superior Court. Corbin Carson k if I News. At least twelve people have been killed in a strike on a crowded shelter in Gaza. Dozens of people were hurt. The United Nations Agency for Palestinian Refugees did not directly blame Israel. The Israeli military says it has ruled out that the strike was carried out by its aircraft or artillery, but they're still investigating. It

says the building might have been hit by a hamas. Russian media says investigators have found the flight recorders of a Russian military transport plane that crashed in a border region near Ukraine, killing all seventy four people on board. Russia claims Ukrainian missiles shot down the plane yesterday, which was carrying sixty five Ukrainian prisoners

of war. Ukraine's president has demanded an international investigation. Apple has rolled out at update to its operating system, and users are being urged to turn it on immediately. The update includes a feature called Stolen Device Protection. It makes it harder for thieves to access key functions and settings. This way, they can't lock people out of their Apple accounts, delete their photos, or empty

their bank accounts. The San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department continues to investigate the deaths of six people found in and around two cars in a remote desert area. They were found near El Mirage Tuesday night and Wednesday morning. Authorities aren't saying what killed them, but video shows and suv riddled with bullets. Three of the bodies also appear to have been burned. Former President Trump's defamation trial resumes

in New York. It was delayed because of concerns adjuror and one of Trump's lawyers had been exposed to COVID. This trial is to determine how much money author E. Gen Carrol will get if any after Trump was found liable of defaming her. Carol wants ten million dollars. The LA Chargers have a new coach. Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh, fresh off his National Championship win, is headed back to the NFL. Harbaugh coached the forty nine Ers from twenty eleven

to twenty fourteen. He also used to play for the Chargers. He was the team's quarterback in the nineties. We're just minutes away from Handle. On the news this morning, President Trump is picking up lots of endorsement, but Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and other Republican leaders are not among them. Right now, let's say good morning to ABC's Tom Rivers. So next time you ought to a spot of tea, will the server say to you, would

you like salt with that? Exactly? What a controversy? And Britz and the Yanks here in London are having fun with this. What's the seed of this rhetorical dispute? A chemistry professor by the name of Michelle Frankel at the Brinnmar College went into the origins of humans consuming tea going back to China, going back a thousand years basically and going into a level that you and I can only contemplate. And she said that a little bit of salt is the

kicker, which makes tea better. And of course what in the front of the Brits. Basically her contention, exactly, her contention is the sodium ions in salt block the bitter receptors in our mouths. And she says, it's not enough to even taste, but you put a little bit in there, and the Brits are aghast. They're saying, you're you're out to lunch. So it's kind of had. It's gone up to the level of the loma.

See the US Embassy put out a tweet yesterday saying basically, in this particular battle, uh, the US is not have an official position, but adding adding salt to the wound. They said that the best way to make tea, of course, was is to put it in the microwave. And again the hair exactly, the hair back on the back of the necks of Brits who say no, no, no, no, no no, you make you you boil water, you put it in a kettle and then you

pour the tea into a mug and then you add the milk. So they're uh yeah, they're they're they're having fun with this thing, and it's going back and forth. Even the Cabinet uh at ten Downing Street has kind of put its its weight into this, saying no, no, no, no, no, microwave is out, kettle is the only way to go. So uh this this is a good twenty four hour fun little back and forth between the US and the UK, and with everything going on in the world,

I'm okay with a little bit of fun. So if you think about the salt thing, right, you said that they're saying to put salt in, but just like a few granules, because you don't want to actually taste it, right, No, you don't want to if you have a sore throat and your gargle with salt water. No no, no, we're not talking about that. We're talking about just so much that you can't even taste

it. So she may have something there, or you might just say, you know, this doesn't taste any different, but but it is what it is. She's come out with a book. Guess what, she'd probably sell a few copies based upon this h doing and froing, if you will. So think about the thought process behind there. Okay, so I got to spark a controversy. I got to get people's attention and do something really weird

so I can sell books. I think she might have done it. I think she's yeah, she's she's ticked all the boxes and good luck to her. Yeah. So here's another thing that I thought about when I when I got that you were going to be talking about this, I was like, so, salt is actually a flavor enhancer. Our Fork reporter Neil Sevager talks about this all the time. How like pepper changes the taste, salt enhances the flavor. And so if you like tea and you did drop in just

a shmidge of salt, maybe it enhances the flavor of tea. I think maybe you're gonna have to try it next time you have a cup of tea. Just try it, and we can circle back next time we chitch you out and find out how how it does for you and how it does for me. I guess I can try. But I'm sort of like in camp ted Lasso on this. I think it tastes like, you know, a wet paper bag. Well, I'm still. I'm still. I drink tons of coffee here. I drink maybe a cup of tea maybe once a month,

not very often. But I they're really they look at me because they think I'm a barbarian because when I have tea, I just have black tea and they go without milk. Yeah, oh my god, Tom, what are you doing? What planet are you f Oh yeah, exactly exactly. I love that. Well. I hope that you don't get ridiculed too much, and please do try the sault in the tea because I want to. I want to find out your take on it. All right, thank you

so much for your time and for lightening our load this morning. A bit. There you go. You take care. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. I love the tea talk. A man wanted for allegedly killing three people in Harbor City and San Pedro in September and injuring a one year old has been arrested. Two of the people killed were in a car when they were shot, the other

was at a party. Charges are expected to be announced today. The Lakt Sheriff's Department is looking for more people who may have been sexually assaulted by a man on parole in Lancaster. Registered sex offender allegedly lured women off of social media and assaulted them in a vacant home. Sergeant Joseph Mesa says the department has received at least four reports of assault and the man has been arrested for

two. Anyone with information please call crime Stoppers at one eight hundred two two two eight four seven seven or email specially Victors Bureau at LSD dot org. Mesa says the accusers and the other two reports that came in late last year have not come forward. A photo of the man can be seen on our website at KFIAM six forty dot com slash suspect Chris Adler KFI News love hearing stories like this. Imagine how life changing this could be. Doctors at Boston's

mass General Hospital have helped deaf children here. They've used gene therapy to restore hearing in five of six children in an experimental trial. Several US, Chinese, and European researchers have seen promising results in treating genetic forms of deafness. ABC's Andy Field says the kids have a rare genetic defect in a gene. Within weeks, the kids who were born deaf started to hear. The oldest was able to speak. Mass Jen says one point five billion people in the

world have some form of hearing loss. I bet that number or more have some form of sleep loss or not getting enough sleep. But guess who's not one of them? Rob Lowe. So Rob low is fifty nine years old and you see him all over the place. Still he looks fantastic, like ageless, right, So either he's got good genes or has cracked the code, or has a good plastic surgeon one of the two or three. I guess that was three. But he says that part of his secret to staying

young, staying in shape is getting lots and lots of sleep. He says he gets an embarrassing amount of sleep. He says, it's not twelve hours a day, but if there were ever twelve hours to be had, he would take it. And apparently he's a napper too, because he says in his suv the seats recline all the way so he can just catch a knap

there. He says, put on a little mask, put on his headphones, and he is good to go, so seems to be working and you're gonna be able to see him again in the next season of Netflix's com Unstable, It's Really Fun. Season two is coming out this fall. He plays a tech billionaire who is Yeah, he's a little unstable. Very fun to watch, though makes me sleepy. This is KFI and KOST HD two Los Angeles, Orange County. We lead local live from the KFI twenty four hour

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