Hey, it's Jennifer Jones. Lee. You're listening to KFI, a M six forty wake up call on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Tuesdays aren't so bad when they start with Jennifer Jones. Late. Here she is with your morning wake up call. Tyler stopped yawning. Sorry, it's the heck of a way to start at Tuesday. I look at you know, we're all in different rooms, right, So I look over at the sort of just imagine a zoom screen where you have all these little squares, and I look
over in the square. Tyler's potting me up. I can see it. So starting music's on, and all of a sudden, there's this big yawn. It's fantastic, did you guy? Her announcer Guys say, Tuesdays aren't so bad when you have Jennifer Jones A liar, jen Oh, ouch, give me come in there and give you a hug or you need. I'm just gonna say some coffee, So I got some no nos in my purse. I did just take my first sip of coffee. So hopefully the honest stop soon. Oh my gosh, all right, I hope you're Monday or
Tuesday. Whoa Tuesday. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, maybe maybe I do. It's going better than Tyler's. I's all right, so far, so good. Weird amount well, my voice is weird, by the way, this morning, I've no idea, and weird weather this morning. Got out in the car and it was full on, heavy, heavy drizzle and even like a couple of showers on my way in this morning. And I did not see that in the forecast yesterday. But that's what we have
this morning. So winschild wiper time. And I know, I just keep thinking to myself, it's May. I know, May Gray, June Gloom. I got it, weather forecasters. But still kind of odd when you're hitting eighties later in the day. That's kind of our forecast anyway for you and some of the stories we're watching for your wake up call on this Tuesday. A former LAPD officer charged with sexually abusing four boys at his home in
Covina has died while in custody. The Dodgers have repented and reinvited the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to Pride Night at Dodger Stadium after they uninvited them. So weird and a judge has given a man thirty years to life in prison for speeding one hundred thirty eight miles per hour during a duy crash and irvine that killed two women. And remember that time that we talked with Karen Travers about progress being made on the debt talk the debt ceiling limit between the President and
House Speaker McCarthy. We're gonna do that same thing again with her this morning, but we'll see what the progress is this time. Let's start with some of these stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. There's a former LAPD officer who was charged with sexually abusing four boys at his home in Covina. He has died while in custody. The La County Sheriff's Department says Paul Razzo died Saturday of medical complications. He was arrested earlier this month and
charged with eight counts of ludacts on a child. He was scheduled to appear in court for his arraignment multiple days last week, but the hearing kept getting delayed. Prosecutors say Razzo abused the kids from two thousand and six to twenty seventeen. The Dodgers have repented. They have reinvited the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence to Pride Night at Dodger Stadium. So the team caught a lot of heat from the LGBTQ Plus and civil rights group as well as politicians when the nuns
were uninvited under pressure from conservative Catholic groups. The Dodgers have apologized. The sisters say they will be honored to get the Community Hero Award that they were originally set to receive. I don't know if you've seen this, but THEIRS security video that is on all over the place this morning, they captured the moment when a sedan crashed through this sushi restaurant in Studio City. The video shows smoke coming out of the car as a person climbs out of the passenger
side and then kind of stumbles into the restaurant. The LAFD sent a search and rescue team yesterday to help remove the car from inside the restaurant. No one was actually hurt in that crash. A judge has given a man thirty years to life in prison for speeding one hundred thirty eight miles an hour during
a dui crash and Irvine that killed two women They're not statistics. These are real human beings who had their lives and the lives of their loved ones shattered because of the selfish decision of someone to get behind the wheel after they've been drinking. Orange County DA's kimberly Ed says Norman Martin had been warned he was too drunk to drive in twenty seventeen, before squeezing two women into the two seater, the corvette slammed into a median, ejecting everyone from the car.
The judge said Friday, the speed was incredible and caused terrific injuries at the scene, which looked like an airplane. Forecasters says so Cal could get hit by heavy rain with the return of El Nino. I think we need to have El Nino music every time that there's an El Nino reference. Doesn't it
sound like us but ghetti western kind of music? Woo. The National Weather Services doctor Dean David DeWitt, Sorry David, says rising temperatures in the tropical Pacific oceans show El Nino coming in is different and the practical reality is that forecast on this timescale are probabilistic and just because you have an El Nino doesn't mean you're guaranteed an outcome. California is already preparing for major flooding for melting
snow, and more rain could only add to the overflow. If El Nino does hit, forecasters say will start this fall and last through the spring. Hey, Karen Travers, good morning. Remember that one time that you and I talked about the debt ceiling negotiations between President Biden and how Speaker McCarthy, and they said things were productive. I feel like, yogi Berra, you know, like, let's do this again, days a vo all over again. Yeah, I mean productive. That is exactly what McCarthy said about the
meeting. It's what the President said in a statement after the meeting. McCarthy also said that he thought the tone was better than any other time. It was the best meeting yet. So you know, that's good. That's why everybody's kind of, you know, clinging to these little glimmers of optimism and
hope after the meeting that they could reach a deal. But they haven't done it yet, and the clock is ticking, and the differences are still very significant, even though McCarthy's kind of describing it as philosophical differences, philosophical, but very deep. They are still the same differences, Republicans saying that in order to raise the dead ceiling, the President has to agree to significant spending
cuts and also work requirements for federal aid programs. The President putting new taxes on wealthy Americans and closing tax loopholes on corporations as part of these negotiations, saying it's not just spending cuts but raising revenue that has to be a part of the deficit conversation. So they are still far apart, Yet at the same time, there's a lot of optimism that at least the tone and tenor of the meeting changed and they feel like they inched closer to an agreement.
The President also said they again said that default is off the table, so that's good, but again they have to figure out how to get to the details to make sure that the default doesn't happen. I think I feel like I hear this clock ticking every time we say debt ceiling. You hear like the tick in the background as we get closer to June first. I always
feel like you can kind of take some cues from Janet Yellen. Has she said anything about how she feels about the negotiations, or has anyone of sort of her caliber or from the Treasury Department or anything like that sort of given any hints that yeah, they too think we're close to a deal and that
we won't have to default. She's not weighing in on the state of negotiations, but what she is doing is continuing to issue warnings, and yesterday she sent another letter before the President's meeting with McCarthy two Speaker McCarthy and other congressional leaders, again underlining that June first deadline, saying this is urgent, and also in that letter said you know, you guys need to act, but also reminded them that you know, back in two eleven, there was a
deal reached, there wasn't a default, but there still was a credit downgrade after the agreement was reached because there was so much uncertainty and concern about the process and the upheaval and dysfunction in Washington. And the warning from her yesterday was like, as you get closer and closer to the June first deadline, the concern about the lack of progress, the concern about waiting to the last minute, could spark those same reactions on Wall Street and the potential of a
credit downgrade. All right, well, let's keep our fingers crossed that the tone and the tenor continues to be positive and that they can every day inch a little forward. And I'm sure we'll be talking more about this with you tomorrow. Have a great day. Hey you two, Karen, see you later. ABC's Karen Travers. I mean anytime that you can say things are positive, Okay, I like that. But at the same time, so what, right, it's we're in the same spot we were yesterday. Just
maybe what one step closer. I don't know. I'm going to be my unhandled self and say that that's a glass half full kind of thing, right, even though handle would say it's a glass half empty because of the fact that still there is no resolution. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour news room. Oh, I was standing in my driveway last night talking to my two neighbors, and I had
my phone on the hood of my car. And as Stephanie and Natalie and I were standing out there talking, all of a sudden, I see something flash on my phone. And these certain flashes, if they come across have to really pay attention to them because means big deal. But it was a big, bad deal because the Nuggets defeated the Lakers in Game four of the NBA Western Conference Finals at Crypto dot Com Arena. The final score sucked was
one thirteen one eleven. Lebron scored forty points. Come on now. Denver now goes on to the NBA Finals for the first time in franchise history. The Nuggets will play either the Heat or the Celtics. A felony child abuse charge has been filed against an LA County Sheriff's deputy accused of punishing his five year old son. The LA County Day's Office says Jim Devot allegedly hit the boy last month and then lied to the boy's mom about what caused his injuries.
He said the boy just fell off his bike. The boy's lawyer says his client did not abuse his son and loves both his boys. What is that? That's a guy who was on video going after people with a pickaxe. I guess one will do in Lake Forest. Well, that guy's been arrested. Security video also shows the man crash a car into a home before he breaks down the front door. Then uses this pickaxe to break down the
bedroom door to get it one of his old roommates. Wow. I mean, I've had some issues with roommates in the past, and I've thought about doing stuff like this. Don't get me wrong, when's the last time you took a pickaxe after you crashed your car into your ex roommate's house. Apparently there was a struggle, that guy said, and when it was screaming, helped me said he thought he was gonna die. Sheriff's deeputy use less than
lethal force to arrest the attacking roommate. California, Nevada, and Arizona have agreed to cut back on water usage from the Colorado River. The Biden administration says it will pay over one billion dollars to cities, tribes, and farmers collectively for conserving the water. Western resource advocates John Bergran says the incentive is a good start, but it isn't enough. We've been using too much of the Colora River. There's more rights on paper to the color River than the
river actually supplies. Governor Knewsom announced the plan yesterday, saying the entire Western United States is on the front lines of climate change. Chris Adler ki FI News. And finally, do you remember that story I told you yesterday about that dog that was stung hundreds of times by bees? Remember they said that they think that the dog was it was stung. I guess seven hundred times.
That dog has died. The two year old pitbull Mastiff was attack last week when a neighbor in Lake Matthews that's in Riverside County, tried to take a beehive down that was on his fence. Be experts say aggressive behavior from bees is unusual and that really be's only attack if they are disturbed. That was a driver who crashed a U Haul truck into a security barrier outside the White House. This guy says he thought someone might need help last night when
he first saw the crash. I saw the truck then back up and then proceeded to crash into the barrier a second time, at which case it seemed like this was not just a coincidence. It seemed like maybe something more. Yeah, when somebody hits something and then they put it in reverse and hit it again, that's something more. The U Haul driver was arrested on suspicion of threatening to kill, kidnap, or inflict harm on the president, vice
president or a family member. There was a Nazi flag, a black backpack, and a roll of duct tape found inside the truck. I don't know why we had to know the black backpack part, but whatever. People picking up a diploma this week can also pick up some free donuts. Krispy Kreme is offering all twenty twenty three college in high school grads a free dozen donuts tomorrow, one on eighth graders? Why are they left out? So all you have to do to get your free donut is walk into a Krispy Kreme
wearing something showing that you're graduating, like your cap and gown. What are you driving around with your cap and gown in your car? Or you can just have a class of twenty twenty three t shirt to qualify. Let's say good morning now to ABC's and Nez dela Kuta. Since two thousand and seven, I remember when the story first broke reporting on it, and Portuguese police are saying that they are going to resume the search for Madeleine McCann and Nez.
Good morning, walk us back through. There might be people listening this morning that are like, oh my gosh, yeah, what was it again that happened to that little girl? Hey, good morning, yeah, really, said Astory. You'll remember Madeline McCann, that three year old little British girl who was on vacation with her parents in the south of Portugal back in
two thousand and seven when she disappeared. So what happened was is her parents had left her and her two siblings alone in the apartments they were staying in and they went out for dinner with friends, and the group of adults had decided to set up a kind of rotation to go and check in on the children, and so every hour or so, a different adult would go and check in on the kids. And so Madeline's dad and around nine pm went in and you know, took a look around and everything seemed to be fine.
All three children were there. An hour later, her mother at ten pm went into the apartment to do the same thing, and Madeline at that point had disappeared. There were very few kind of traces it was, you know, I mean, the case was never solved. And again this was back in two thousand and seven. Madeline was three, she would have been twenty years old as of last month, and Portuguese police now reopening the search,
renewing their efforts to find Madeline McCann. They're actually starting a three day search of a reservoir in the area close to where she was last seen. They are searching both the kind of land the ground around that reservoir, and there are also divers that are that are searching the waters. That reservoir was searched once in the past, back in two thousand and eight, but nothing
really came out of it. But that they are reopening the search, and we should point out that this comes because it was requested by German police. It was German police, German prosecutors that called for this search to be carried out. The thinking is that they're trying to link this case to a man who was named as a formal suspect last year, who is a German national, Christian Bruckner, who's forty five years old. He is currently serving time
in Germany on a rape conviction. He's always denied anything to do with Madeline McCann, but he is known to have been in that area when Madeline was last seen. Okay, so what was it those specifically that caused it to be right now and back in that area that's already been searched. Did he did this suspect, Did he say something to I don't know, a cellmate, did he talk to a guard? Did he Is he doing this as part of a plea? What is new that he might have said to them?
Or why would they reopen this at this time? So that is a big question. We don't know. So we know that it was German prosecutors that but asked for the search to be carried out. We know that this has to do with Christian Brutner, but they haven't said why, what tip, what evidence? UM, you know is behind all of this. So, UM, you know it's gonna be a three day search. I think in the next a few days, hopefully by the end of this week,
we'll get more information. But German officials have haven't given a whole lot of details. UM asked to you know what it really was that that set off this, this this whole new search. In the beginning, I remember remember that, you know, a lot of focus was obviously being put on the parents, clearly because they were the last two people who said that they saw Madeline alive. And now seeing the picture of those parents and I think it
was taken yesterday or the day before. Holding that picture of Madeline again, it made me start to think that, you know, once the two of them were cleared, what you know, and everybody started thinking, what do you do when your kid disappears? When she's three and you're left with that sort of gut wrenching what happened? Where is she? You know? Is she still alive? Kind of thing? Putting the parents through this over and over and over again, giving them this hope and then you know, the
searches. Then obviously you have not come to fruition with anything, but to put them through this again cannot be a light thing, even for the German government. That's got to be in the consideration department, right absolutely. I
think that's the thinking. And again we don't know because they haven't said, but I think, yeah, that this thing is and I think part of the reason there's so much attention on this development here is that it must be something big that they wouldn't just reopen the investigation, you know, so many years later for just a small tip. So so we'll see what comes out of that. You remember, of course her parents, Yeah, like you
say, they were initially suspects. They were then cleared, and then they spent years kind of you know, raising awareness, drawing attention to their daughter's case. They got tons of celebrities involved, from David Beckham to JK. Rolling Um offered millions in rewards for any information leading to to you know, to finding Madeline. They've never really given up hope. Um. But but
so we'll see if if anything comes out of this new search. And as thank you so much, thank you, see you later, ABC's and as Dela Kuta man, I do hope that, even unfortunately, if it is her remains that are found, you always hope that there is some sort of resolution, not just or are you know, the scandalous society in which we
live where we need to you know, wrap up this lifetime movie. But for those parents, I mean, I can't imagine, you know, I know how I feel when you know, a dog runs off or something like that and I'm like, oh my god, what's going on? And it breaks my heart. Imagine your child disappears and you're still searching seventeen years later with no answer. I don't know how they go on. I mean, obviously they have to, they have other kids, but dang, just oh
you talk about heartbreaking. Oh, Lebron might be breaking some hearts. He's talking about retirement. He says, it's an offseason decision to think about. To be honest, I a lot to think about, to be honest, and this will be personally going going forward with the game of basketball. I love to think about. Okay. In a eleven second cut, three times he said he's got a lot to think about. I feel like Lebron's got a lot to think about. James just completed his twentieth season with the NBA.
Today is National Drinking with Chickens Day. She wrote, I have a feeling this is something our Jennifer has done in the past. Why because I'm from running, does everybody think I can ride a bull? I've been drinking with chickens? Have you not been drinking with chickens? I have, and I've written a bull. I think we're done here, Okay. A driver has crashed a U haul truck into a security barrier outside the White House.
A former LAPD officer charged with sexually abusing four boys at his home in Covina has died while in custody, and there's a debate about the impact of these appointment only animal shelters, and whether that policy could be contributing to a rising kill rates at animal rescues across the country. We'll get into that in just a second. But Jim Ryan, good morning to you. A lot of
us have thought we're doing the right thing. We're saving those plastic bags we get at the grocery store, we take them back, we recycle them. Are we doing anything at all? Though when it comes to the cost benefit analysis? Maybe, I mean, cost benefit analysis is one thing, probably not, But in terms of saving the planet, you know, that's why I think you would do that. You'd bring the plastic bags back, first
of all, so they don't end up in the environment. You're filling up at landfill or stuck in a tree at a city park, or blowing around in the neighborhood or in the waterways. Right, so you take the bags back. California state law requires most big supermarkets and pharmacies, big box stores to have a big bin outside so that anybody can return plastic shopping bags.
You see the plastic bag. Those shopping bags are hard to deal with because as big and powerful as recycling machines are, you don't have plastic bags in there. And they can actually gum up the works and stop the machine. So that you have to be they have to be handled in a specific way, and so I think everyone assumes that, yeah, by putting it in the bin, it's going off to a recycling center. Well, DAVC News and its affiliates around the country several of them got together and then they decided
to test this. So we took a pastic bag, we dropped in and apple tracker yeah, er tag right into the bag. Super gluted in there or gorilla gluted, I guess is what they did. Then put other bags around it, dropped it off with a recycling bin at Target and Walmart stores around the country. See what happens next, right, So we tracked these things and the vast majority did not go to recycling centers. Most went to either city landfills, or they went to incinerators where they were burned up,
or in very few cases that he actually went to recycling centers. Three or four cases, some of them ended up in recycling centers in Asia, and then three were unaccounted for all together. Nobody's quite sure what happened to those. All right, Jim, Well, thank you so much. We'll keep an eye on this one, because I've always wondered, like, all right,
I do my part. I do recycle those things, but at the same time, it's like, okay, if it's really not doing any good, and hilariously kind of coming up the system, it's like, well, that doesn't do us any good if we're doing if we on the one side are doing the right thing, but it's not actually helping the process. Yeah, we'll take a canvas bag to the shopping and to the grocery store instead, and want to you want to think about it? I love it, Jim, Thank you so much. See ya ABC's Jim Ryan. I saw
that last night. I was like, oh my gosh, So here's poor I don't know, Joe the maintenance guy, and every time the recycling machine goes off, Joe's gotta go over there an ungumm it with all of those plastic bags that we have tried to save and recycle. We tried, we tried, everybody, we tried. The bodies of a four year old boy and his eight year old sister have been recovered from the King's River in Fresno
County. Authority say those kids were swept away Sunday when their mom and a friend tried to take them across the river over to a rock, but the kids didn't have life vest. The girl's body was found about an hour later. The boy's body was found yesterday about two miles downstream. Closing arguments have started in the trial of a man accused of killing a father who was camping
with his young daughters at Malibu Creek State Park. Anthony Routa is accused of firing a rifle into the tent where all three people were sleeping in twenty eighteen. Prosecutor said that Roudah had the rifle on him when he was arrested. The defense argued cigarette butts found near the side that the shooting did not have Routah's DNA on them. Routa is accused of going on a crime spree that also includes an early morning shooting in Burglary. I'm going to tell you a
cigarette butt story in just a second. That's bizarre, as Handahl would say, I have a personal story about that. A study shows the global loss of wildlife is more alarming than previously thought. The study published yesterday in the journal Biological Reviews found almost half the play in a species are experiencing rapid population declines. Some scientists say the world is entering a sixth mass extinction event, caused by the destruction of wild landscapes to make room for farms, towns,
and roads. They say climate change is also an important factor. I've never seen one that big up close. It's not often that you've got an alligator roaming around your neighborhood. Live in Southeast Texas or anywhere, I'm pretty sure in the US, But that's cornelis. Greg Junior, who lives in the area, says he was just driving home Sunday spots a gator. Says he didn't take any chances one. I didn't get out of my car too.
I called the police and let them handle it smart now. Police kept an eye on the gator until a trapper captured the reptile and a three hour long rescue. The trappers said the alligator weighed about twelve hundred pounds. It is eighty five years old and still out and about. Super Bowl sixty is headed to San Francisco forty nine ers home Stadium, so it'll be at Levi's Stadium. Super Bowl sixty in Santa Clara twenty twenty five, Super Bowl fifty was
played at Levi's Stadium in twenty sixteen. Vegas and New Orleans will host the next two Super Bowls. That's twenty four and twenty five. All right, So here's my weirdo personal story. So as you guys know, So where I grew up, you know, out in the sticks, we had a whole bunch of land. And then my family has everybody lives on the land. I know it sounds very weird and yellow stony in a weird way, but I had relatives who built log cabins. So cousin Francis and her husband
Laars built a log cabin on our property. They lived in Alaska during the summers, and then they would come down to Reading and they would live in this log cabin during the winters because Alaska, you know, winter is rough. And here's the weirdest part. My cousin Lars had no sweat glands. That's a thing. I didn't know there was a thing. Anyway, Lars passes away, Francis says, all right, Annie Jones, kid, when you turn eighteen, go live in that cabin. Take care of it for
me when I'm not there. So I was the first to be given that offer, So I go and I live in the cabin. I think I think I was the ripe old age of seventeen, and my parents were probably like, hell yeah, I get her out of this house. So I'm living in the cabin. I've probably only been there like maybe two weeks, three weeks. And I slept with the window open just a little bit, you know, maybe three four inches, just to get some cool air in
there. And I hear this crunching on the gravel footsteps. It's about four thirty in the morning, and I it wakes me up. It's that loud because it's just silent out there. And I remember going to the window and looking and seeing a man standing there a plaid shirt, jeans, and he's smoking a cigarette. Now, granted, you guys, this is there's nothing else around this thing but just acres of field and this log cabin that I lived in, So I have no idea what to do, you got.
I went into like freeze mode. So I was proud of myself. I knew there was a shotgun because you know, it's ready. I knew there was a shotgun in the closet, so I grabbed the shotgun and cocked it, just letting him know, I got a gun. I didn't yell anything. I just cocked the gun like an idiot, got under my bed. Had this nineteen oh six Sears catalog bed that has it, so it was huge and raised got under the bed. Called my uncle who lived across the
street. I'm like, Uncle, Ken, there's a guy outside, and
he goes, why did you call me? Called the cops. Oh yeah, anyway, it's the cigarette butt that that guy left that proved to the cops once they arrived that there was somebody out there, and it looks like there were a couple of cigarette butts that had been Apparently this man had been coming to my window for like the first week that I lived there and didn't know it, based on the cigarette butts that were outside this window, which I just never walked around there, I guess, But isn't that creepy?
They never found him, but that was the only proof that I had some weirdo guy coming to the window of this log cabin. Freaky Freaky writer E Jean Carroll has now filed an amendment to our defamation lawsuit against former President Trump, asking for another ten million dollars for comments he made after the verdict. Trump was found liable for sexually abusing Carol in nineteen ninety six. I know
Tyler liable Lie Yubble in nineteen ninety six and later defaming her. Carol says he then or she then made more He then made more derogatory comments about her on live TV. He responded online and in interviews by saying Carol's sexual assault allegation was politically motivated. Eric Tursky says Carol claims Trump's comments during a CNN town hall earlier this month entitle her to additional damages. Let's say good morning
now to Sharon Logan. Sharon, I this story that you and I are about to talk about is one that I've been kind of watching over time and wondering if there's an A plus B equal CE impact here. So the debate has kind of been coming up now about appointment only and this was what we
did at animal shelters during the pandemic. But now there's a question about why are we keeping these pandemic era appointment only policies in animal shelters across the country and could that policy be contributing to a rise and kill rates at animal rescues. So, Sharon, good morning, I know you're a huge animal activist. You've sued Orange County in the past over some of its policies. What is your take on these pandemic arab policies staying in place and the impact they
might be having. I did, and thank you for having me on your show, first of all, and thank you for using your platform to helpfully advocate and help effectuate change, change for the animals. And yes, I have been advocating since twenty twelve for true sustainable, viable shelter reform at OC Animal Care. So these policies, I mean, they're just absolutely ridiculous.
And if you go on the Best Friend's website, you know they have this whole section where it says policies right, proven policies, it says, and then it talks about shelter intake a just the number of animals entering your shelter, continuing practices that will keep pets in home that the website says returned pets in the field instead of impounding them, leave stray cats on the street.
They have this whole new ridiculous thing where they're saying that even now, if you find a stray dog, leave the stray dog on the street because ninety two percent of stray dogs are a mile from their home and they will be able to go home. So it's just absolutely ridiculous. And they said that these policies are still good to maintain after COVID as the new way of progressive animal sheltering and they're calling it community sheltering because they believe we members of the
community need to be more active with the shelter animals. And so the policy, the appointment only procedure Orange County Animal Care, you know, they took it a little too far. I mean, I believe La City or La County, even Irvine Shelter they have an appointments where you can come in from one to four, you know, make an appointment, but you can still walk around and see the animals. At Orange County Animals Are they've completely shut
the shelter out. The only place you can go is in the lobby and once you get to the lobby, you can look on the computer and ask the kennel attendant to bring you out two dogs and that's it, okay. So, I mean, it's absolutely ridiculous. It needs to change. Orange County is a thirty five million dollars shelter. They have an annual budget of I believe twenty five million dollars, so this is not an underfunded or understaffed
shelter. They are doing this because these are the policies and directives that are considered best practices by the big box organizations like the big national wealthfare organizations, which are best Friends often Pets Alive HAW which stands for Human Animal Support Services. These are the supposed leaders in the national welfare that are saying these are
the best policies of procedures to implement at municipal animal shelters. Okay, Sharon, So let me play devil's advocate here, because it's not that I don't
agree with what you're saying. I just want to give their side, not specifically OC animal care, but some of the shelters I know during COVID were telling me, and even actually after it, some of the shelters that I had talked to were saying, the reason that they were keeping these policies in place is that they actually found more successful adoption rates happening, or you know that the animals weren't ever brought back, that they were able to better fit
a family with say will focus on dogs here maybe, but an adoptable dog, that kind of thing when the process was a little more streamlined like that where they had it, and it wasn't so sort of willy nilly. People were walking through just saw a dog they thought was cute and then grabbed it, took it home. It didn't work with the family and they had to bring it back. So they were claiming that they saw bigger success rates when
they did this appointment policy and that that's why they were continuing it. Have you heard anything like that? And also did you see during the pandemic. I know you did, but a lot of shelters said they were cleared out. Remember everybody wanted an animal, yes, because everybody was home, so they were fostering the dogs because everybody just works from home. Yes, But once the pandemic was lifted and people started going back to work, they realized
how much you know, um time and effort. I mean, it takes a lot to keep a pet, whether dog or cat, you know, just like a child. They need your time and effort. And once people came went back to work, they realized they didn't have the time and effort to put into that. But yes, I know that's like what La City is saying. That's actually even what they see animal out there and saying they're
calling it a concierge services. They some more time with the doctors that come in by appointment, or I think you won't care even meant as like a matchmaking service, right crazy, But yes, they are saying that it's more successful that way. As far as how true that is not is or on the data with Osee Animal Care, I don't believe that's true. Okay, when what would you like to see done? I would you know, like we obviously we've both identified the problems. What would you like to see?
Do you want them open completely again or what from your aspect might be the key to success. I don't. I don't think they need to open completely. But I mean back in the day pre COVID pandemic, ose Animal Care was open seven or six days a week, from like ten or eleven in the morning till six or seven at night, right six days a week. I believe the dogs do need interaction. I just can't see them sitting in their kennels all day without any kind of interaction, social interaction. I've suggested
to the Orange County Board of supervisors. I've emailed them like hundreds of times. It probably tired me by now. I'm like, well, if you need to open the shelter right at least even on a limited basis, let's say one to four, you know, Monday, Wednesday or Friday or weekends when a lot of people are Friday to Saturday Sunday, open it from eleven to five or something, you know, give them something. And I do believe that people actually need to be able to walk in the shelter, walk
around the tunnels and meet the dogs personally. But I also understand that the big box organizations that's not what they're pushing, and they're saying this is the better way and this is the new way. But I know animal advocates here n in La don't think that right. Well, Sharon, I appreciate your time and of course your dedication. Anybody who's dedicated to animals, man, you are high in my book. So I appreciate what you are doing and
keep up the good fight. And if nothing else, I like what you just said how you had suggested to the border supervisors, and I think that that's key when we are if we're gonna make you know, if we're going to see any change, it needs to be through suggestions and you know, like a positive impact or a positive push on this kind of thing. So I hope that your suggestions, combined with what oc Animal Care says it can
do, that we can see something actually happen and change. Because I'm sure there's a little right on both your correctness, I should say, on both sides. So let's see if we can't meld those two together and make a difference. But Sharon, thank you so much for your time this morning.
Yes, and I agree with that. And just one more thing. You know, we are as animal advocans, we are a bunch of really passionate, emotional individuals and we all have our different ways, so we can't let the emotions rule, as you know, go buy backs and data and um you know what is sexual and what is best for the animals, not just on our emotions. The other thing is, I know you guys saw the article in the Voice of OC and that's why you reached out to me.
And I just want to thank you the Voice of OC and Angela Angeline for writing that. I mean, they've been writing about OCIE animals back the curtain on what goes on there since twenty fifteen. They just don't write fluff pieces, you know. They they show all the good, the bad, and the ugly. So I'm just really appreciated the doing that, and thank you so much for your time and hopefully we can collaborate and effectually some change in
the shelters. I would love you. You are welcome back anytime, Sharon. I appreciate. I have a great week. Hey, you do, see you later. Sharon Logan is an animal activist, and you know,
here's the thing. Even if you don't agree with her, or you or maybe you do agree with her and you don't agree what the animal shelters are doing, one thing that we just did as we at least are talking about it, and I think that that's key is that you're talking about it, and that is what's going to effectuate the change is if we keep things like this in the headlines. I don't care how often we do it. I just want more animals adopted. That's all I care about. And she's right,
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