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Jennifer Jones Lee hosts your Wednesday morning Wake Up Call. ABC's Ines De La Cuetara has more on the Russian Defense Chief wanting wartime missle output doubled. Then, KFI's Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for another edition of 'Wired Wednesday'! Apple and Google are teaming up to better protect people when it comes to the use of trackers, Shutterfly will now begin deleting photos from inactive accounts, and Farmers Fridge is coming - Rich explains what it is, and how it might impact your life if you're an avid traveler. ABC's Mike Dobuski talks about the "Godfather of AI" speaking at MIT following his departure from Google. And ABC's Jim Ryan shares more information on the suspected Texas gunman having been caught just miles away at his sister's home, hiding under a pile of laundry in a closet.

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Hey, it's Jennifer Jones Lee. You're listening to KFI, a M six forty wake up call on demand on the iHeartRadio app. You are halfway to the weekend already. Here's Jennifer Jones Lee with your Wednesday morning wake up call. Oh day, Oh it was bad. It was really bad, but I attract I don't know where that came from because I hate it when HANDLE does it. But I've been talking about hump day. It just came out. I apologize to all of you. A good morning, been a morning

already. Every morning my day goes like this. The alarm goes off, the dogs know it's time to get up, and as I tell them, I opened the back door and I say go get busy, which you know what that means. Everybody runs out, Everybody does their thing. Only two run back in. No, when it wasn't even Betty White this time. Freaking Daisy. Daisy is my eight pounds on a good day, little chihuahua, mixed thing. I don't know what the hell she is, to be honest, anyway, can't find her, can't find her. I go out

and I'm doing the like day day day day, like that. Weird loud whisper that you're trying to do so you don't wake the neighborhood at three o'clock in the morning day, says he. And then I'm trying to do a whistle, but it's more like because I'm trying not to wake the freakin neighbors. Finally, I'm texting Michelle. I'm running behind I can't find freaking daisy. So there I am now in the backyard with pants in, my sweatshirt on and my slippers. Still find the damn dog. But she's behind a

bunch of rosebushes. I don't know if I ever told you, guys, but the guy who owned the house before me was a professional landscaper. That's what he did. And so I have the most stunning backyard with fruit trees and roses and big palm trees and whatever. She's back though, behind my grove of rosebushes. I can't get back there, and I don't know what was back there. She finally came and I put her inside. What do you do to a dog? Nothing other than I say to her, don't

do that again. Sure that went over well? Who absolutely scaf I am six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. I hope your Wednesday morning is going a little more routinely than mine did. Some of the stories we're watching in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom, a tip to the FBI has led to the arrest of a man accused of killing five of his neighbors in Cleveland,

Texas. Also, we have a horrible story out of Serbia this morning where eight kids and a guard have been killed in a shooting at a school in Serbia, and LAPD Chief Moore says violent crime continues to go down, So we'll be watching for that and we'll get Steve Gregory's report on that. Also, we'll talk with Inez Dela Kutera, the Russian defense chief. Apparently, once wartime missile output doubled, that is not news Ukraine wants to hear. So all of that is coming up, but let's start with some of

these stories in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Suspect is in custody. A tip to the FBI led to the arrest of the guy accused of killing five of his neighbors in Cleveland, Texas. The arrest yesterday ended a four day searched. The sheriff greg Kaper says, Francisco Oropezo was found in a house only about twenty miles from his home. He was caught hatting it underneath some laundry. Now, I need to know whose house this was. How long had he been there? Did he just get there? Had he been

there the whole four days? Or Opeza is now in jail facing five counts of murder. Officials say the man killed his neighbors with an AAR style rifle after some of them ask him to stop firing rounds in his yard. Immigration officials say the alleged shooter is from Mexico and has been deported four times. Now. Obviously it will be aiding and a betting for whoever home he was

in. But I'm curious about that because here's a guy who we all sort of assumed would run back to run back to Mexico, right, But he stayed in Texas, and I'm curious as to why and who was hiding him. I don't know, we'll find out more, I'm sure as the investigation goes on. Eight kids and a guard have been killed in a shooting at school in Serbia. Abcason As Dela Kutera says the alleged shooter is a seventh grade boy. The fourteen year old suspect apparently fired several shots from his father's

gun. He has been arrested. Six other students and one teacher were injured. Police say they got a call about the shooting at the primary school about eight forty this morning their time. Primary schools in Serbia have eight grades, starting with first grade. A girl who was not hurt in the shooting, told her dad that teenager was a quiet boy in a good student and as

Dela Kutera, good morning to you. I think the very first thing that I thought about when I saw that the Russian defense minister wanted to double the missile production for wartime, I thought to myself, Oh my gosh, Ukraine. And then I thought, wait, this might actually be a sign that Russia's got kind of an AMMO. I don't know, shortage or crunch or something like that. What's the story, Well, hey, good morning.

Yeah, it's really hard to know about how to read this. So Russia's defense chief Sergey showing you, was speaking at a meeting with his top military generals, and he said that the state owned Tactical Missiles Corporation would be doubling its missile output. He said, it is unnecessary right now to double the production of high precision weapons in the shortest possible time. And this comes as

we know Russia is bracing for a possible Ukrainian counter offensive. We're expecting Ukraine to launch some kind of massive counter offensive in the springs, so that could come at any time. Now. We also know that Russia's weapons supply has been dwindling for months now. So this appears to be evident that that Russia is admitting that things are not necessarily going the way they would like them too. That you know, it apps to be an admission at least that they

need more missiles. But Russia has so rarely done that, you know, Russia has has has barely spoken about the numbers of casualties they've suffered, for instance, and they don't like to admit any kind of weakness. So, you know, on the one hand, Summer reading this, you know this, this the Russians defense chiefs asking a state companies to double its missile output. Some are reading that as as evidence that Russia isn't doing so well.

Others are saying there must be more to it than that, and maybe Russia's trying to kind of learn Ukraine in here and give U create false hope when really they haven't figured out and they're just going to you know, be punching back harder. See. And that's the other side of it too, is this a oh no, Ukraine, we don't have anything to fight your counter offensive. Oh look at us, We better scramble. But really they do have some you know, I don't know cash of weapons somewhere, that's right.

I mean, that's the big question, and we just we just don't know. Um when it comes to their weapons supply. Western intelligence is that their their weapons supply, uh, you know, it has been dwindling. That's part of the reason we saw Russia going after Ukraine's energy grid over over the winter because they were they just didn't have enough missiles to launch a large scale missile attacks and so they were targeting you know, very specific uh so

the energy infrastructure or military facilities, things like that. We do know that Russia, we're getting new numbers when it comes to the casualties that Russia has suffered in the war. So the White House estimates that Russia has suffered one hundred thousand casualties in the last five months of fighting, including a twenty thousand dead and the UK also has intelligence that logistics problems remain at the heart of

Russia's struggling campaign in Ukraine. So, at least according to Western intelligence, it does appear that Russia is struggling. All right, thank you, and as I appreciate it, thank you, all right, See you later. ABC's Inez de la Kutera get back to some of our local stories. LAPD Chief Moore says violent crime continues to slow down looking back over the last few years, More said there was some positive news. Overall or total violent crime

is down ten point seven percent. That's just under eleven one hundred fewer violent crimes over a period of time going back to twenty nineteen. More said over the last year, homicides are down twenty three robberies down sixteen percent, and aggravated assalter down six and a half percent. More also told the Police Commission yesterday there were seven officer involved shootings this year, compared to six the same time last year. Steve Gregory KOFINEWS, people in California will soon have a

new hotline to report hate. The hotline will take calls in two hundred different languages. People won't only be able to report hate crimes, but also hate incidents, hate incidents, or to fined by the status hostile actions motivated by bias that violates civil rights laws or cause significant harm to communities. Officials say they hope the hotline, which begins tomorrow, will help officials prevent hate crimes

by improving the data surrounding hate. People who called the hotline will be connected with services, including legal help. In La Blake Trolley k if I news. A man in Orange County has been sentenced to five years in prison for raping two women at Huntington Beach Hospital. Police say all three women were patients in June of twenty twenty one. The man was a patient in the psychiatric

ward. He pleaded guilty in December to several felonies. He got credit for seven hundred eighty days in jail and has been ordered to register as a sex offender. Did you see any of the picketing yesterday? Writers in La traded their pens for picket signs to demand higher pay and benefit. Thousands of members with the Writers Guild of America walked off the job after talks with major production companies broke down. Writers say half of union members are making minimum pay and

aren't getting enough royalties for all of their hard work. We want residuals to be equal to what we get on network We do the same work on network TV that we do on streaming, but we get paid less. Writers picketed outside of production studios yesterday after workers rejected an offer Monday night, calling the proposal insufficient. The union says it will continue striking today and every day until

they get a fair deal. Chris Adler KFI News Well, a man in Huntington Beach has pleaded guilty to killing a cat by slamming it against the windshield of cars. The guy was sentenced yesterday to six months in jail. Really, I know that there are some people who are thinking to themselves, it's a cat. Yeah, it's a cat. This guy is messed up, and we're giving him six months. Police arrested the man in March. He was charged with cruelty to animals and other crimes. He got a plea deal

from the judge that reduced the charges from felonies to misdemeanors. Am I the only one, and not just because this is an animal story, but am I the only one who is sick, sick, sick, sick, and tired of hearing plea deals where felonies go to misdemeanors. I know that's the game. I got it. I'm not new, but I'm just tired of it. Like, when are we going to hold people accountable and give them the sentences that they deserve instead of all right, well yeah it's a misdemeanor,

it's a slap. Come on, now, does anybody want somebody who could do something like that back in society? Do you feel comfortable with that guy living next door to you? On my soapbox? This morning, local leaders, parents, and law enforcement in Orange County have increased calls for the state tapascitif or penalties for fentanyl dealers. As a mom, this scares the hell out of me. Assemblywoman Katty Peter Norris is one of several Democrat and

Republican lawmakers to introduce new bills. These are not accidental, this is poison. But Public Safety Committee members rejected many bills claiming accidental overdoses. If I was sitting in a bar in order to cocktail and somebody put cyanide in it, nobody would be talking about that I accidentally overdosed. I was murdered.

OC Sheriff's commander of Virgil Ascension says county wide button all related deaths increased from thirty seven in twenty sixteen to seven hundred and seventeen and twenty twenty one. When Your PTA President Carol Greene describes one parent whose son started gasping. She had been at her school board meeting that night and been given narcam. She dug through her backpath and gave her son the narcam and he is alive today because of act. This is not somebody else's kid, this is your child,

This is my child. Critics say more punishment was also the response to crack than a drug war filled prisons, while ignoring addiction. In Orange County, Corbin Carson kay, if I knew they got him the guy that they were looking for in Cleveland, Texas who killed allegedly five of his neighbors. While it was a tip to the FBI that led to the arrest of the guy who was hiding under laundry about twenty miles from where the shooting took place.

LAPD Chief Morris's violent crime continues to slow down, and a man in oc has been sentenced to five years in prison for raping two women at the Huntington Beach Hospital. Let's say good morning now to kaifis tech reporter Rich Demarrow. You can hear him Rich on Tech on Saturdays here on KFI from eleven to two. Rich, good morning. Hey, they're good morning to Jennifer. Okay, let's talk about how Apple and Google are what joining forces?

This seems odd and why would they join forces? Yes, a very rare joint appeal by Apple and Google. But this is all for a good thing. This is to prevent air tag tracking. And so what they're doing is, you know, if you have an air tag, they're really great if you have an iPhone, but if you have an Android, and especially if one of these little air tags is following you, you would never know because

it doesn't tell you like the iPhone does. So the two companies are working together to make sure that no matter which phone you have and which tracker you're using, you will still get notified that one of these trackers is near you. And that's the main thing here. There's lots of companies working on trackers, Samsung, Topolo, Google is probably going to have their own of course Apple has theirs, but they're not cross platform in many cases, and so

now by the end of the year they should be okay. And I think it's it's just the size of the air tag, which is good because if you want to stick it on your dog's collar, you want to stick it in your purse, or you're on your keys or whatever. It's small, and that's wonderful. It's also very easy for somebody to slip one in your purse who should not, or on your car, or whatever the case may

be. And I mean, I guess it's just that potential for somebody to do something nefarious with it that makes me feel better that this is you know that they are teaming up to make sure that you get those alerts, because you I would never know if somebody dropped one in my beheamoth of a purse. Well, if you carry an iPhone, you would because eventually it would tell you. And so that's the real disconnect here is that, yes,

you're right, these things are amazing for tracking luggage. They were the saviors of last summer with the luggage issues. Yeah, but people have time and time again also use them, like you said, for bad things and they're very easy to use for bad things because they work very well and they're tiny. So the reality is now, no matter which phone you carry in the future, this is going to take a little bit for this to happen.

It's not gonna be overnight. But the reality is, if someone puts an air tag in your purse, Jennifer, and you happen to be carrying a Samsung phone, it would still say, oh, hold on, why is this thing tracking you? And it's even though it's not an iPhone, which iPhone does today. But you know, there's a lot of androids out there too, all right. Some people store their photos on Shutterfly, and I

was thinking about this. They might not have active accounts because they just think, hey, that's where my photos are, but they just haven't needed them maybe recently. But Shutterfly is going to start deleting your pictures. Yeah, So, to Shutterfly's credit, well to their discredit, they said, hey,

keep all your pictures here forever and I'll be safe. And then, of course, as time goes on, these companies changed their tune and they said, oh, actually, we'll just keep your pictures for eighteen months as long as you make a purchase or as long as you make a purchase every eighteen months, we'll keep your pictures unlimited. And so okay, the problem is Shutterfly is one of those like historical sites that we used a long time

ago. You probably have pictures in there from like the early two thousands. Maybe you stopped using it, and now all of a sudden you get this email that says, oh, wait a second, I gotta get all these pictures out of here or make a purchase. Shutterfly says, okay, we notice that some people didn't open those emails because they're from email addresses that they haven't used in a long time. Because again, these are very old accounts.

So long story short, you have until May thirtieth, twenty twenty three to either download your pictures or just make a purchase, and they will stay for another eighteen months. So just buy a four by six, send it to you know, mom or grandma, and you'll be good. Mother's Day is right around the corner. That's perfect for that. Okay, let's get on too. Can we go to Farmer's fridge this one? I'm so intrigued by what is farmer's fridge and where what might we see? It when it

finally makes its way to our grocery stores. Yeah, I'd love to go there, but I you know the locations. You know. Look this, this is really cool. I first saw this at LAX. It's a vending machine filled with fresh salad and so not just salads but wraps and all this stuff. And I was really kind of skeptical when I saw it because I was like, eve, salad from a vending machine at the airport. That's kind of weird. And so of course I tried it. It was delicious.

The company emails me because I tweet them and they're like, hey, you want to do a story, you want to learn more about it? I said sure, and so the CEO took a couple of months. He finally got out to la We talked this week and he said, look, we make all the food in Chicago, which is kind of interesting, in their kitchen and then they truck it out overnight to all these fridges and they've

got like hundreds of them, like six hundred across the nation. And Jennifer, they actually use an algorithm, so at six pm, when they're done cooking and making all these salads, they run an algorithm that looks at the fridges across the nation and it decides where these salads need to go so they can be super fresh when they get there. Oh my god. I love that and were saying they were delicious. Were they expensive? But I mean, I know airport food, you know it's late. No, that's the

best part. It was the cheapest thing in the airport was like ten bucks and that's like yeah, And if you buy it through the app at the airport, you save twenty five percent, which I did not do because I was like, I don't want to sign up for the app, but of course I did now. But anyway, you can go on their app and see the locations they have. They're not in a ton of places in Los Angeles, and they're really focused on places like airports, hospitals, schools,

and some workplaces. But now, according to the latest news and the CEO kind of hinted at this, they're going to be sold in four hundred retail locations by the end of the year, including Costco, Target and some other places. So that's kind of cooling. Absolutely, I love that. I just love the idea of more fresh food and more places. The CEO, who started at Young Kid by the way, I mean, I'm very young. He was a traveling salesperson and he said, you know, you'd get

to these cities there was nothing except fast food. Yeah, so these are very good and tasty. They're really good too. And I think the one that I have gotten the sandwich from is the Guy Fieri one that's at the Burbank airport. And so you go. But the sandwiches are so expensive. Holy downport is like it's like another planet with the pricing. Yes, I literally will bring my own water bottle there because I can't spend six seventy five

on a sixteen ounce bottle of water. And I don't understand the food. The salad's twenty dollars for a salad you add I added a cookie. One time, Jennifer and I had to, like, you know, talk, I had to call my expense person here at KTLA just to make sure it was okay. I don't doubt it it, really there is something about that

airport. I don't know if they figure, oh, we've got you know, fancy people going through here, they'll have the money or what, or if they just know, hey, we've got you, so who cares and you'll pay it? And most people will because you don't have a choice. Oh yeah, and what's the weird like valet parking that's cheaper than the parking. Yes, there are so many weird things about Burbank. Now Here's what they get. It's convenient and that's why people go there, and that's why

I go there. And it's easy and it feels like you live in the middle of nowhere because you're like, oh, I just took stairs up to this plane and okay, I'll pay the ten dollars for a water exactly. I try and fly out of either Burbank or Ontario as much as I can, But you're right, the pricing is ridiculous. I guess we're paying for the convenience. But I hear Ontario has a vending machine with ramen, so

they've got that going. Yeah. I have not been there to see it, but I did a story with them at CTYS and they mentioned they have it there, so oh my god, I can make my way out there, all right. Sounds good. Oh when you do, then you can get some ramen and bring it over to my house. Perfect. Bam. What's going on this weekend? Rich? We are going to talk about Oh, I went to the Clean Car Expo, which is really clean fleet Expo, so crazy, saw so many amazing fleet trucks that are all easy.

That took a ride in a hydrogen powered truck yesterday. Oh that's quiet. So we'll talk about that and of course all the other tech news of the week. All right, Rich on Tech eleven to two Saturdays here on KFI always he's on KTLA. Rich, thank you so much. Thanks Jennifer. Hi, see later you two ABC's Mike Debusky, good morning to you. I was fascinated by this guy, Jeffrey Hinton who made this announcement this week that you know, he's known as the godfather of AI, but he's leaving

Google and regrets his life's work. What in the world is he afraid of or what's the I guess embarrassed by? Right, So he says he's going to step away from his role at Google to focus on more philosophical pursuits and warn against the potential dangers of artificial intelligence, which which is pretty interesting because as you mentioned there, Jen, he is considered to be the godfather of AI. He is credited with creating a technique known as back propagation, which

has used in neural networks. Essentially, it was a way to teach big computers how to think. And neural networks have been around for a long time, but they really took off the twenty tens. Google bought a company that Hinton and two of his students created in twenty twelve for forty four billion dollars, and now he says he's going to step away from his role at Google to focus on some of the concerns he has about the technology that he himself

helped to create. And I think it's that's the portion of it that I'm like, all right, wait, mister Hinton, what is it exactly that you're so concerned about that you think could lead to disaster? Right, it's got sort of a Frankensteinian sort of vibe to it, Right, Yes, what if I created? But yeah, now, he raises three main concerns.

Jen He says that misinformation it could be created by these large language models chat GPT Dolly two can create very human sounding writing and very realistic images, respectively. He says that those computer generated pieces of content could flood the Internet, and we will exist in a world where people couldn't tell the difference between a computer generated piece of information and a human generated one, and obviously that

raises a lot of concerns about misinformation. He says that certain jobs are at risk. Paralegal's personal assistants, translators, he made sure to call out. And we're also seeing that, you know, at play in the Writer's strike which is going on near you guys in Los Angeles. You know, one of the concerns that the Writer's Guild is raising is that AI could be used to write movies and television shows, and that is a threat to that industry.

So so obviously a concern that is showing up in the real world. And then the third concern that Hinton raises is sort of further afield these future applications, this idea that you know, these technologies could be used for things in the future that they aren't necessarily being used for right now, things like elections manipulation, making sure to call out various strong men around the world, including Vladimir Putin, to potentially sway electorates in certain directions using these tools.

And then also battlefield manipulations idea that you know, they could be used in warfare. So yeah, a lot of a lot of very concerns concerns. Yes, before I let you go, he you think that okay, if you created it, you also know how to destroy it, or you probably do. And I'm wondering, does he think that there's anything that should be pulled back or any or is it you know, we've opened the barn door

and too bad. Well, I mean, that's one of the sort of interesting things that he brings up is that because these systems are trained on such huge swaths of data, right GPT four, which underpins Dolly two and chat GPT, you know, it's trained on the entire Internet, everything from academic papers to you know, your Instagram feed gen And the idea is that, you know, because it has so much information within it, that occasionally it

will produce information and and tell us things that we didn't think it could tell us, Right, Like, even the creators of these technologies don't necessarily know, you know, what their full capabilities are. And that's obviously a concern that he's raising. And he says that regulation is key here, but that you know, the pace of this the advancement of this technology is so fast that government institutions around the world just are not keeping up at the moment.

All right, Mike, You're awesome, look forward to chatting again, of course, take care to all right, thanks you to see you later. ABC is Mike Debusky. He's right. It does have that sort of Frankenstein feel to it, like I've created a monster. All right, well can you can you tether your monster? Momentarily, they're just you know, when you have somebody like I don't know the creator of the damn thing, and you have a guy like Elon Musk also going hold on, hold on this.

This could be kind of dangerous. I feel like when Elon Musk calls out crazy or dangerous, some people think he might be sort of an evil genius himself. Not evil, but kind of a um what word am I looking for? Unique um person? When that guy's calling it out, I listen. Or when the guy who created it says I don't want anything to do with it, I listen because that makes me nervous. So we'll see.

I'll be interested to see what Jeffrey Hinton does outside now his role at Google and what he's just going to be a guy I want to follow. Let's put it that way. Thousands of film and TV writers, as Mike was just alluding to have hit the picket lines throughout LA to demand higher pay

and benefits. Production companies and talks with the writers union say they made an offer to the Writer's Guild before the Monday night deadline, but this writer says it doesn't come close to what they want, and there were many things that we wanted to negotiate it on that they refused to discuss or even offer a counter. So they're just shutting us down in some areas, and that's why

we're out here. Striker's rallied yesterday outside the production studios in places like Culver City and right here in Burbank, criticizing big networks for their alleged greed. Now, strikes are expected to continue throughout the week, and writers say they will strike for as long as it takes to get that new contract. Now. Writer and culture critic Michaelman says one of the issues the union and the production companies can't agree on are the residuals. We've talked about this and the

residual model for the streaming show. The residuals model where you used to get paid a passive income through a syndication or you know, DVD sales stuff. Like that as completely out the window. Yeah, because there's no accountability. How can you say, if you know, I'm watching some streaming show that was written by Tyler, and you know when it was on a major network, you got the sort of counter right, it could tell you there we

go, there's another person who watched it. Streaming does not do that. So then the residuals that should be paid to the writers aren't because there's no accountability. Now, Schulman says late night, we'll see the impact first, but as the strike continues, new scripted shows coming out this summer into the fall could be stalled. An organization that helps human trafficking survivors is scheduled to

speak to Pasadena's Commission on the Status of Women. Cast LA's director will present a twenty one page presentation tonight to city commissioners about the organization and the data about human trafficking in the La area. Cast LA provides counseling, mentorship, legal resources, housing education, and leadership training to people who have been human trafficked. It also has a toll free twenty four to seven hotline Let's say

good morning Now to ABC's Jim Ryan. Oh, Jim, all right, get ready, because I've got some Let's peel back the onion questions for you. Okay, let's start with how they caught the guy who was accused of murdering his five neighbors. After all they did was ask him, hey, buddy, can you not shoot at midnight? And he goes on this killing spree, including this little nine year old boy. How'd they find the guy?

Four days later, two words, ching, ching, yes. The reward had gone to one hundred thousand dollars, contributions from various law enforcement agencies, the Governor's office, from crime stoppers, and shortly after that, shortly after the reward hit one hundred thousand, somebody made a call to the FBI and said, hey, I know where Francisco Auropesa is. The FBI of the law enforcement agencies went out to the house not too far from where the

crime actually happened. They went in and they found him. He apparently was hiding jen under some laundry in a closet in this house and was taken into custody with just as a minor pushing and shoving. Apparently this is interesting, though other people were taken into custody at the same time. Now, the Sheriff's Department of the FBI. Nobody's been really specific about why were they harboring him. Were they helping him to elude capture for the last four days?

Maybe we don't know that, but we know that several people are in custody besides Francisco Ropesa. The Sheriff's department says more people could be arrested too in this case. Okay, so this is the part. Then, Okay, so the house was not naked. There were people in the house who knew that he was there. So how many of them do we know? Don't know? We haven't they and we don't know who those people are, what connection they might have to oral Pessa, and and what connection they have to

the house itself. But yeah, that's all we know at this point. I think for people in Cleveland, Texas, all they care about is that Francisco oral pesays behind bars now, oh absolutely, And then as far as okay, so we don't really have any information on the people. Is there a chance, I guess that oral Peza was holding them hostage, that he went to some random house or do they think it's pretty clear that these were

people who knew him and were helping him. Well, it doesn't seem they were there or you know under durest Okay that that hasn't been clarified, but it would seem and especially considering that people who were arrested there at the scene, that that somebody was helping him. So, you know, I think

that's a pretty safe assumption. Do they think that the people who were helping him might also have been one of the people who tipped them off in the sense of, hey, I know who this guy is, and I'll be out of the house when they go and get everybody, you know, get him and get the other people there. Yeah. Possibly, I mean, but it's sort of like, Okay, I'm helping this guy to stay here

in this house, I know where he is. Is it worth a hundred thousand dollars to get charged with some crime aiding and a betting obstructing justice? So, you know, helping this guy to elude capture, is it worth one hundred thousand dollar award? Or could that person even collect one hundred thousand if they were complicit or helping him with his escape? Don't know, And there was there are a lot of questions out there. Why, how, by the way, did a guy who was in the country illegally get his

hands on an R fifteen assault style rifle. That's a big question. Okay, So that is a big question. And you were talking about this is a guy who's been deported to Mexico four times and he gets right back in. I thought it was interesting that he only went twenty miles from his home. I thought for sure he'd end up back in Mexico where it would be more difficult to find him. Well, getting to Mexico would have been a

bit of a stretch. It's you know, people think of taxes. Okay, Well, Houston must be right across the river or right right next to Mexico, the nearest point from Houston, and this happened. The shooting was near Houston. The nearest point from Houston's about three hundred and fifty miles. Oh okay. So it's not as though he could be or rather something easily. Um so. And by the way, we were told that there was initial sighting of him not too long after the shooting. I guess it was

Monday that police saw somebody running through a neighborhood. They locked down the schools. This person got away. Initially, it was reported that was well as a false alarm that probably wasn't him. Turned out it that was him, that was Francisco or a Pesa. That who was running away from that neighborhood. That's incredible and that why why was that discounted or why wasn't that tip taken? Seriously? You know, I kind of think that the investigators have

been maybe manipulating things a bit. You know, if they if they want to keep or Apesa in the area, if they don't want to gem off, I see, I see, they might say something land it was probably a false report, false alarm, don't worry about everybody, Go back to your business. And they know full well that he's close. Interesting, so that he goes who they don't know that I'm here, right, But then they are closing in on him as that happens. There's my Lifetime movie portion.

I love that, the closing in idea. Okay, so from here, where do we go? Well, he's sitting in jail now. He's looking at five likely charges of capital murder that'll be up to the district attorney in the grand jury to decide, and that'll happen fairly quickly. He's on five. He's in a five million dollar bond situation right now, five million dollars. So the chances that he's getting out of jail before he stands trial,

before anything else happens, those chances are slim to none. So I mean, I suspect he's going to be behind bars the rest of his life at this point. Well, the guy, I mean, the guy's a freaking flight risk. He's been back and forth across the border four times for God's sakes. Yeah, right, he's the poster child for flight risk. So yeah, he's not going anywhere all right, Jim, I enjoy our chats so much. I hope you know that. It's fun. It's I like it. You're easy to talk to. Wow, thank you, this

is why we're friends. Ye see you later, Jim bye. ABC's Jim Ryan. I love talking to him. He's one of my favorite reporters. Just say, let's get back to some of these stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Ooh, remember the seven people in Oklahoma that were killed by a registered sex offender. The family members of those people who were killed say the man was a controlling liar. Those were their words.

The bodies that were found Monday, including those two missing teenage girls, the killer, his wife, her three teenagers. The wife's mom says the family didn't learn about her son in law's criminal history until a few months ago. She says he lied to her daughter and convinced her it was all just a huge mistake. The mother in law says the man was standoffish, quiet and kept the family under lock and key. See. Not that I know a lot of people in jail or prison or whatever, but I've known a couple,

and you know, what I've always found is interesting. The people that I've known are very forthcoming with like, well I got caught. It's the ones where they go, this was all a mistake. I'm innocent, And unless they have something really good to show or to prove their innocence, I'm gonna guess they're a liar. Anyway. I know you're thinking, well, how does she know? I have experienced with knowing people in prison, Thank

you very much. A lawyer for former President Trump has told a judge in New York that Trump will not testify in that defamation lawsuit over an alleged rape. It was author E Jane Carroll who claims that she was raped by Trump in nineteen ninety six. Ever since this trial started, it had been something of a mystery whether Trump would actually show up here to testify in his own defense. His attorney said he will not. It spares Trump from what would

no doubt be a rigorous crossing samination. ABC's Erin Katurski says Trump has denied Carol's allegations. Trump's lawyer questioned why the woman never reported the alleged rape until she wrote a book. She said her generation was taught to keep their chins up and not complain. Seniors have protested the Huntington Beach City Council's plan to

oppose an Assembly bill that CAP's mobile home rent increases at five percent. Mobile homeowner Terry Williams says some seniors on fixed incomes are getting seventeen percent rent increases twice a year. You can rent an apartment now in Huntington Beach where the rental prices are sky high, for the same as we pay for space rent.

William says it's a slap in the face for the council to ignore requests for how from rent gouging and then oppose a state bill that could help Huntington Beach decided to table the opposition late last night when it was discovered the bill is still on hold until January. Anyway, The LA School District says it's going to buy one hundred eighty electric school buses and chargers for the Sun Valley

Bus Yard, which provides transportation for forty six hundred students each day. Now, most buses at the yard now run on compress natural gas buses, I guess, along with some of the propane fueled vehicles. The district says it hopes to reduce its carbon footprint by twenty twenty six. This one makes me sad, although I would fit right into this next story. Test scores in

history and Civics have declined slightly for eighth graders in the US. The scores from the National Assessment of Educational Progress show an increasing number of kids lack of basic understanding of either subject. The same assessment reported in October that every single state had seen a decline in math or reading scores amid the COVID nineteen pandemic. Officials said the latest scores reflect more of the impact of disruptions from the

virus that shuttered schools across the country. The results show nearly one third of eighth grade students, thirty one percent can't describe the structure or function of government. Mark Ronner K if I knew, Hey, that is what drives me crazy. I gotta admit I was. Yes, I was in honors programs in English and history when I was in high school. I know it's a shock to most of you, but I, especially in my English class, I don't feel like I really got not much out of it. The history

class I did not pay attention to. But I was one of those kids who could kind of always guess the right answer, you know, like, oh, I'm sure this is it. So I got through that class. But now looking back, oh my gosh, do I wish I had paid attention more, just because as Tyler, he just whispered in my ear.

Which is what my point was going to be, that history is repeating itself in so many ways, and if we could look back at history that we've sort of erased up to this point, we might see how not to repeat it again. But if we don't pay attention to it, don't learn civics specifically, which I really wish i'd paid attention to, Otherwise I wouldn't have had to give myself a crash course in it when I got into news. But maybe some of the things that we're going, Holy cow, this is

history repeating itself. Wouldn't if we had the knowledge or if we were paying attention back in our classes. Off my soapbox. Now. This is KFI and KOSTHD to Los Angeles, Orange County. Your soa cowweather from KFI. It's a gray day. I had a slight chance of showers today, better chance of showers tomorrow. Should be sunny and warmer by the weekend. We lead local live from the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. I'm Jennifer Jones Lee.

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