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Amy King hosts your Tuesday Wake Up Call. ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller joins the show from Jerusalem to discuss Mike Huckabee denying reports that IDF opened fire on Palestinians trying to access aid. ABC News national correspondent Jim Ryan talks about the FBI highlighting rising incidences of elder fraud. Sandy Steers, Friends of Big Bear Valley executive director speaks on Sunny leaving the nest for the first time. Bloomberg’s Courtney Donohoe updates us on the latest in business and Wall Street. The show closes with the host of ‘How to Money’ Joel Larsgaard talking about millionaires choosing to rent and workers cutting their 401K contributions

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Speaker 1

You're listening to KFI AM six forty wake Up Call with me Amy King on demand on the iHeartRadio app KFI and KOST HD two Los Angeles, Orange County.

Speaker 2

It's time for your morning wake up call. Here's Amy King.

Speaker 1

This is your wake up call for Tuesday, June third. I'm Amy King. We're flying high on wake up call this morning. Not that way flying high. We're not high because our little Sonny left the nest sunny West. Will comes in this morning, sits down and goes, I'm a little concerned, And I said why, and he goes, there's only one bird in the nest. And I said, that's because Sonny flew away. I know, but she did what she was supposed to do. She's around, she's not far by.

She's not far away. In case you haven't heard, Sonny, the older of the two sisters the eagles in Big Bear Lake, left the nest yesterday. In fact, I found out about it because I had just driven home from work and I found out about it because I got a text from Will. All it said was OMG ten forty six fifteen, and that's when Sonny left the nest. So you can go back and check it out and I'm already on the YouTube at Friends of Big Bear Valley. They are searching around now to try to find Sonny.

She was in one of the trees what they call the roosting tree for Jackie in Shadow yesterday, but who knows where she is this morning. But she Oh my goodness, it was so cool to see her fly away.

Speaker 2

She looks like it was just casual.

Speaker 1

She did a great job. She did a great job. I think all that practice helped. And then Gizmo's just sitting there like, uh, hello, whe'd go. Isn't that cool? There were like seventy thousand people watching it yesterday. Anyway, we're talking to Sandy Steers, Friends of Big Bear Valley at the bottom of the hour. You're gonna want to stick around for that. I know she's making the rounds

on all the media stations. We get her first this morning, and she's going to be telling us, you know, what's next. Are we going to see Sonny again? When is gizmoment going to maybe take off? There's lots of questions to ask, so again we'll be talking to Sandy Steers at the bottom of the hour. Here's what's ahead on wake Up call. Police are looking for three robbers who broke into a

home in Delray and zip tied the people inside. Police say one of the people was able to escape from the home last night and ran over to a community police station to get help. At least two of the robbers are said to have guns. A judge has blocked the Trump administration from using the seventeen to ninety eight Alien Enemies Act to deport Venezuelan migrants in the LA Area. Used District Judge John Holcomb, who was appointed by Trump in his first term, issued the ruling yesterday, saying the

government hasn't promised the migrants due process. As I mentioned Sonny, he's left the nests. The first of the two baby eagles in the nest high above Big Bear Lake that thousands have been watching every day has flown off. Sonny's the older of the two that hatched more than twelve weeks ago. The younger eagle, Gizmo's, expected to fledge or fly away kinda any time. In the meantime, her parents, Jackie and Shadow, continue to visit the nests to feed

Gizmo and protect her until she's ready to fly. Israel says it is not randomly attacking Palestinians despite what hamas led groups inside the Gaza strips say. ABC's Jodona Miller is going to join us in about two or three minutes to tell us more about that. If you've got parents or grandparents, ABC's Jim Ryan says, bad guys are going after them. He's going to tell us what they're doing and what you can do to help keep your parents and grandparents money safe. And an interesting new trend

for millionaires, they're renting instead of buying. Joel Larsgard is going to join us at five point fifty and tell us why that's happening. And again Sandy with friends of Big Bear Valley talking about our little eagle who left the nest. That's coming up at just after five point thirty. Right now, let's say good morning to ABC's Jordana Miller, who's in Jerusalem. Jordana reports out of the Gaza strip are that Israeli troops fired on Palestinian civilians who are

trying to get humanitarian aid. US Ambassador to the UN Mike Huckabee has pushed back on that.

Speaker 3

What's the saying, Well, Mike Huckabee is calling a lot of the reporting by some of the main networks in.

Speaker 4

The United States.

Speaker 3

He named CNN and others as inaccurate. Here's what we do know. Early this morning, in a scene that resembles what happened on Sunday, about somewhere between half a mile to three quarters of a mile away from the distribution center that's been set up. There's been several of them. This is a new initiative back by the Americans and the Israelis to distribute food directly to gosins and try to keep it out of the hands of Hamas early this morning, thousands had gathered to go into that distribution

center when it opened at about six am. And it appears, according to the Israeli Army, that some of this crowd rushed one of the Israeli army positions outside of the distribution center, and Israel opened fire warning shots, and then it appears shots on the crowd to move them away from this area, and in the end, about twenty seven people were killed, several dozens of others injured. Again, this isn't at the site where people are gathering or getting food.

It's not even in the perimeter right there of the distri distribution center. But you know, some way some five hundred to a thousand yards away from there. So it's not civilians who are getting food, but it's people who were waiting in line to go who The Israeli armies say, we're rushing their positions, and the Israeli armies that their troops were endangered. Clearly, this new system of distributing aid has a lot of problems. And here's the main one.

That it to ask people to go through active combat zones, to line up in areas that are not exactly safe, and after almost two years of this conflict, to think that there won't be some in the crowd who might try to clash or engage with the Israeli army, I mean it's likely, and then we have deadly scenes like we have this morning, likely a version of what happened

on Sunday. The Israeli Army this time put out a statement right away saying they did fire warning shots, they people did approach godsans did approach their soldiers, and that they know that there were, you know, some casualties.

Speaker 1

Okay, So Jordana, if they're saying we're here to give you aid and help and they're still getting rushed, by the crowds. Is that just a factor of the of the desperation or why aren't they Why aren't the people listening and staying back and staying in line? What's causing this to escalate?

Speaker 3

Well, first of all, I mean this is the first week we've seen the system up and running, and clearly it has some problems that have not and kinks that have not been worked out, and there's you know, widespread hunger and desperation. And again, the expectation that people would quietly wait in line for hours and there would not be any disturbances, you know, is in many senses dream right when this is you know, almost two years into

a major war. So these issues have to be addressed, and whether that is pushing the uh you know, creating longer quarters for people to travel uh into the areas. Because at the actual distribution sites, there hasn't been a lot of violence. I mean, certainly people have been coming in and taking aid. The center itself. The Gods of Humanitarian Foundation says something like six million meals have been

distributed in a week. That may sound like a lot, but when there's you know, over two million people, you know, that's just three meals per person in a week, right, it's not it's not a ton of food, but remember a meal. Also, at the same time, there's about one hundred trucks of ague going in and being distributed, you know, along the old lines of distribution, that is going up to warehouses and from there being just contributed to the

two gossms. So there's two systems working in tandem. All of it together is still not enough though.

Speaker 1

Okay, well, hopefully they'll get it figured out because they this is not looking good, you know, for the Israeli's efforts, and they're saying we're trying to help, we're trying to get aid in and then shooting and killing people. So ABC's Jordana Miller, thanks as always for the information. We appreciate it. Tuck, all right, take care. Good morning. I'm Amy King. Thanks so much for starting your beautiful sunny

day with us. Although we have drizzle in the forecast in some areas, but beautiful in Burbank, and it's beautiful in the skies above Big Bear Lake where Gizmo is up and flapping this morning. Here's what we're following in the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Some people who lost their homes in the wildfire in January say they're not

sure they're going to be able to rebuild. It's not that they don't want to, they say they're wary of government officials not moving fast enough, and say leadership just isn't there to get the job done. A project recovery survey shows that for every year it takes to get back in to rebuild, twenty percent will sell instead. Harvey Weinstein's not expected to take the stand in his sex crimes retrial in New York. Closing arguments are expected today

following about six weeks of testimony. He was convicted in twenty twenty twenty twenty, but that conviction was thrown out. Weinstein maintains that all the sex he had was consensual. The twenty four witnesses in this trial have disputed that. La County marks the start of Pride Month with a flag raising at the City Administration Building in downtown La this morning. It'll be followed with another Pride flag raising at the County Department of Public Social Services in industry.

The theme of Pride Month this year Pride. It begins with us the La Pride Parade that starts at sunset and Highland happens on Sunday. Let's say good morning now to ABC's Jim Ryan. So, Jim, if you have parents or grandparents, you got to listen up because there's bad guys out there and a lot of them are coming after your parents and grandparents.

Speaker 5

Well they are and having some success Saturday. I may if you look at the FBI statistics for twenty twenty four, and that's the latest year they have, there were one hundred and forty seven thousand complaints filed by people sixty and up. Now his people are getting ripped off by scammers out there. The total loss is four point eight billion dollars. Do the math there and that's eighty three thousand dollars the average laws to someone over sixty through

one of these scamps eighty three thousand dollars. That means that some people got lost much much more than the case out of Florida that just came to light. A man, a ninety two year old man in Sun City, Florida, got into an online relationship he thought a romantic relationship. This person asked him for money time and time again. He ended up emptying out his bank account eight hundred thousand dollars. Turns out it wasn't a woman that you

know in this romance that he was expecting. It was a prisoner, somebody in the Florida State prison, some guy who had gotten hold of a cell phone in his cell and was perpetrating these scams on people. And it's pervasive across the country.

Speaker 1

Okay, so guys, even when you're ninety two, you don't probably unless you have a lot of money, probably aren't going to have some young hot thing coming after you.

Speaker 5

Well, people want to believe what the heart wants, what the heart wants, amy.

Speaker 1

All right, So that's that's one one what they want. Yeah, so that's one of them. But there's other ones that are a little less, a little more, I don't know. They appeal to parents and grandparents where they say, hey, your kids are grand kids are at risk, and it's easy to.

Speaker 5

Do now, easier than it was ten fifteen years ago because you have AI spoofing the voice of that loved one on the phone, calling the grandparents and asking for help and money. Fishing and spoofing scams are the number one crime reported by people sixteen up to the FBI, twenty three thousand of those followed by tech support scams, which is kind of related to that, but they have

fish and spoofing and your writing. It's something that older people are facing, and it's gotten easier for the scammers to do.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and so what about the tech support scams? What are those?

Speaker 2

Tech support?

Speaker 5

So you get an email, you get some notification on your Sometimes your computer will will flash a page that says, hey, your computer's going to get locked down. You need to call this number and talk to tech support. And you call up this number, eight hundred number, and they may even say, okay, yeah, this is a gig squad at

bounced by what do you need? Or this is Microsoft the don't they shamelessly represent themselves as an actual company using the actual name Microsoft or you know, gate Squad or whatever, and then build trust with this person and say, okay, well I'm going to fix this issue for you, but there is a fee associated with it, and you need to pay us, sometimes in gift card, sometimes in bitcoin, never a legitimate means of payment or common means at least.

And yeah, so tech support scams are one that target not only older people but just about anybody.

Speaker 1

Okay, so should kids be talking to their parents and grandparents and saying hey, mom, dad or grandma, grandpa, what here's what to look out for.

Speaker 5

Yeah, that's why the FBI puts this out every year. This is an elder Abuse Awareness Month, and that's kind of the call from the FBI is for people who have an older person in their lives, a parent, a grandparent, an elderly neighbor, to keep tabs on them, keep that line of communication open so that if this person is getting ripped off, or if somebody is trying to abuse them somehow neglect them, that you can help. Otherwise, people

are losing their life savings. They're sometimes losing much more than that.

Speaker 1

So sad. And then of course you have to have the talk with grandpa. Grandpa, the hot young blonde is not coming after you. Yeah, all right, ABC instead Yeah you can't play bingo instead if he sees Jim Ryan, thanks as always for the info. Let's keep our parents and grandparents and even us safe because the scams are getting really good.

Speaker 5

We're going to be there one day, all.

Speaker 1

Right, Thanks Jim.

Speaker 2

Thanks Aby.

Speaker 1

When we come back, we're gonna be talking with Sandy Steers with friends of Big Bear Valley about our little eagle, who's left the nest and what's next in the life of the young eagles in Big Bear Lake. Let's say good morning to Sandy Steers with friends of Big Bear Valley. A very exciting morning, Sandy.

Speaker 4

Hi, Yes, it is very exciting.

Speaker 1

I yeah, so tell us. So Sonny left the nest at ten forty six fifteen yesterday morning. Her first flight caught on video and she flew like a champ.

Speaker 4

She did. Yes, she jumped off and took off.

Speaker 1

And how long did she fly? Because I also saw another view where they showed a kind of a wide angle of her kind of swooping around and flying around the tree. Basically, did she fly for very long or did she? Was it a short one?

Speaker 4

It was? It was a long one for a first one. But she flew around the tree and over to the roof tree that Jackie and Shadow's favorite roofs tree. So that's where she still lives.

Speaker 1

Okay, So, and that's really interesting to me. Will and I were talking about it earlier because we were like, so did she do they watch them? So they kind of like she had probably an idea like well that's where mom and dad go or was that just kind of where she landed. We don't really know because we don't know what's in her.

Speaker 4

Head, right, We don't know, but I'm sure she's seen them go there often, so it might have looked like a destination.

Speaker 1

Okay. And has she flown again since yesterday morning? Or she just hanging out now?

Speaker 4

She's just hanging out still.

Speaker 1

And I saw a picture, Sandy of the three of them all that same tree. Is that correct?

Speaker 4

Yes? Yeah, Jackie and Shadow spent the night there, and she's there a little bit above where they are.

Speaker 1

And poor little Gizmos all alone for the very first time, I've seeing him in the nest, seeing her in the nest. She's been flapping around pretty good. So do we have any Do we have any kind of idea how long it's going to be before Gizmo takes off?

Speaker 4

No, we really don't. It's totally up to her. This could make her leave sooner, it could make her wait longer. We don't know.

Speaker 1

Okay. And then what about Sonny, the older of the two, heading back to the nest. Are we expecting that to happen?

Speaker 4

Well, we try not to set up expectations in general, but all the other eagles have the eaglets. When they've left, they did come back to the nest in sometimes a day, sometimes a few days. So we'll see what she does next.

Speaker 1

Okay. And now that she Sonny is out of the nest, how does she get her food because she doesn't have Jackie and Shadow bringing it up to the nest for her anymore.

Speaker 4

Well, Jackie and Shadow will still be bringing her food. We'll still be protecting her and guarding her and following her around as she follows them around, so she can learn how to live, how to fish, how to find food in general. Yes, they'll be with her.

Speaker 1

Okay, that's so, that's very reassuring. And then here's another question for you, Sandy. Like the eaglets sleep in the nest and they lay down, but now Sonny doesn't have anywhere to lay down. So does she sleep just holding on to the branch like mom and Dad do.

Speaker 4

Yes, she does, and she has, in fact, for the past couple of weeks at least been off and on sleeping standing up, and so has Gizmo. They learned that early, and their talons, their toenails, their toes lock into place when they fall asleep, so they're good standing on the branch.

Speaker 1

Okay, so this morning, Gizmo is already up, and Gizmo, of course the eagle that's still in the nest, and I've seen her flapping her wings. Are there any kind of telltale signs, because like with Sonny, it looked like Sonny was ready to go, I haven't seen that with Gizmo as much yet.

Speaker 4

Right, Yeah, Gizmo hasn't looked as ready as Sonny did. Gizmo seems to like to lay in the nest and have mom feeder.

Speaker 1

She's lazy. She's lazy, But so far she looks really like there's there's no concern or anything because there's still a good window for her to fledge.

Speaker 4

Oh totally. And she's four days younger than than Sonny anyway, so yes, there's plenty of time.

Speaker 1

Okay. And with other eagles, have oh, she just kind of hopped up into the attic with other eagles, have you noticed that when one of them leaves the nest that it spurs the other one to go.

Speaker 4

We haven't ever had two, so we don't know.

Speaker 1

So it's a wait and see. It's a wait and see, all right, And what should be we should be watching for in the next few days, Sandy, just.

Speaker 4

When you know her doing flapping and practicing and being out on the different branches and h and also looking for maybe Sonny. We'll come back and then we'll see what they both decide to do. Their individuals, they get to make up their own mind.

Speaker 1

Okay, and I know that I've been obsessed with them. I'm sure that you have been obsessed with our eagles for the last few months. How does this all make you feel?

Speaker 4

Like excited, a little sad that I won't get to see them as much, A little bit of everything.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I was interested watching the comments yesterday, going by people saying, oh my god, I started crying. I started crying because we get so emotionally attached to these beautiful creatures and they're going to go and fly off and be free and it's amazing to watch. So thank you to friends of Big Bear Valley for putting that camera in and letting us take a little peek into nature. We appreciate your time, Sandy. I know you're busy this morning.

You gotta make a lot of rounds on media because everybody wants to talk to the lady who watches the eagles.

Speaker 4

Yeah, thank you very much. For having me.

Speaker 1

All right, thanks so much, Sandy Steers, friends of Big Bear Valley, and always I like to mention this because it is a nonprofit. They have this camera up and they can't do it without donation. So whether and it doesn't he have to be just money. You can go to friends a Big Bear Valley. They have eagle calendars and they have little plush toys and that kind of stuff. So if you can make a donation and help so we can continue to watch this beautiful event in nature unfolding.

It so cool. All right, Time to get in your business with Bloomberg's Courtney Donaho. Good morning, Courtney. Geez there, Hi Courtney, Okay, hello, Hi morning, good morning. Okay, let's talk about chicken. Dave's Hot Chicken. Oh my gosh, I

love it has roots in La. It's turning up the heat exactly because the private equity owner of Subway, Duncan and Sonic jumping into Chicken were Capital is buying a seventy five percent steak in Dave's Hot Chicken, which is such a fast growing chain right now and it is quite delicious.

Speaker 6

This would value the chain known for its Nashville style Hot Chicken at a billion dollars. Dave's was launched in twenty seventeen. It was a pop up in a parking lot in LA but some of the big name investors include Drake and Samuel L.

Speaker 1

Jackson.

Speaker 6

Dave says it's going to use works franchise network to continue to expand the chain quickly, and it's got a pretty big one just knowing that it has so many different chains under its belts.

Speaker 1

It also has Buffalo Wah Wings too, So in less than ten years, the owner of Dave's could be a billionaire. Exactly.

Speaker 6

Nice exactly if you know, going from a parking lot in twenty seventeen to this unbelievable. But you know, when you have a good idea and it's managed relatively well, this is where the money goes.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So I got to talk to Dave one time. He brought he'd brought chicken into the station and we were just chatting about it, and he was telling me the story of how they started in the parking lot and then people came back the next day and said, as in more chicken, and they just kept going and kept going and it just spread from there. Pretty amazing story. I love it.

Speaker 6

And another thing too, is they have such a great so media profile and they have a lot of big name celebrities so that are tweeting about them, talking about them, and that keeps it top of mind, especially in social media where so many things go viral and people are saying hey, you know. And of course the hot chicken trend, which Chicken has become now the thing that a lot of fast food companies have been jumping on, and especially after we had the chicken wars a couple of years ago,

remember with Chick fil A and Popeyes. So now another company just coming into the whole entire mix here.

Speaker 1

Okay, And of course we don't have a ton of time today because we had to talk about our little eagles. But tell us about what we're expecting for the markets today.

Speaker 6

Yeah, So the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, they're warning that the trade policies that we have from President Trump have tipped the world into a downturn. This is making people nervous, with the US among the hardest hits. So the oecdc's growth in the US slowing to one point six.

Speaker 1

Percent this year.

Speaker 6

They put out a forecast a couple of months ago, and it's already down from there. But they say all the uncertainty is hurting confidence, it's holding back investments. So that's why we're seeing pressure on stocks this morning. Futures down ninety points.

Speaker 1

And the good news is we started way down yesterday and ended up.

Speaker 6

Yeah, we got a late day boost. We saw a big rebound in tech shares. The S and P five hundred rose twenty four points in the Dow game thirty five.

Speaker 1

All right, that is Bloomberg's Courtney Donahoe getting in your business like we do every day at five point forty. Thanks so much. We'll talk to you tomorrow, Cortney. We see you later, all right, when we come back. An interesting new trend for millionaires. They're not buying, they're renting. Joe lars Guard is going to join us to tell us more about that, and also, if you're tempted to cash out your four to oh one k, he's got a word or two for you. That's coming up next.

Let's say good morning to the host of How to Money on Sundays from twelve to two right here on KFI. It's Joel lars Guard. Joel, we have an interesting trend among millionaires. They're renting instead. Of buying.

Speaker 7

What's up with a Yeah, this is a study of people named Amy King who are just you know, loaded, but they're choosing to rent.

Speaker 2

And I'm just kidding. This is this is fast.

Speaker 7

Is fascinating to see, and I think most people are saying, I think that, oh, if you have millions of dollars, clearly, clearly you're going to buy a home, right because it just it just makes us why would you do anything else in building home? There's this kind of mentality in the United States of America that this is what leads to significant wealth a big part and when you look at the numbers, it's actually fairly true. For the average American, a big chunk of their net worth lies in the

fact that they own a home. They've built up equity over the years. But we're seeing more millionaires bucking this trend and opting to rent instead of buy. And I think that this reflects a couple of things. I think it reflects the current state of the housing market and just how expensive it's gotten. We're starting to see kind of some softening and prices. We're seeing more sellers than buyers, which is interesting because you're thinking about like three years ago, it was the exact opposite.

Speaker 2

And we're also so when you look at like.

Speaker 7

The disparity between what you'd pay for an average apartment these days versus an average house, you have to have almost twice as much income to afford a mid priced home. Then you need to afford a mid priced apartment. And then a recent bank Rate study found that it's cheaper to rent than to buy in all fifty of the largest metro areas, which was not true eight years ago, was not true six years ago. So it's just really interesting to see as the market turns, people make different choices.

And I think it's a good thing. You can still build wealth as a renter. And I think a lot of people have heard amy that. Yeah, well people have heard that renting is throwing money away, yeah, And I just think that that's patently false. Renting is putting a roof over your head and paying for it, and so you have to think you're getting utility out of renting.

And if renting is going to save you money every single month, the disparity between what you pay in rent versus what you pay in your mortgage, well, if you are taking what you would have paid to buy the house, right and then the repairs on the house, which can be significant. Don't understell those. Then you can invest in your tax advantaged accounts in a much more significant way, building wealth through your future. So I think people think, oh, I got to buy the house to build the wealth.

The truth is as a renter, you might actually have more capacity to build wealth.

Speaker 1

Okay, And speaking of the future, the other thing we wanted to touch on is that workers are cutting their four oh one K contributions.

Speaker 7

Yeah, so this is some new data that just came in from Morgan Stanley. And when I mean, you talk about it every day, all the headlines that are coming in just are not looking economically bright. There's tariffs, right, there's cuts to government spending. So a lot of people who work have federal jobs. They're like, they're freaking out about their future. And so what happens when it feels like recession predictions arising? Will people say I'm going to

invest less. And I think there's one good side of this and one bad side to this. The good side of this is if you're cutting back on your investing, like let's say you dial your four one K contributions back from eight percent to five percent, that's okay for a time. If what you're doing with the extra money is putting it into savings, right if you're building up a liquid cash account to allow yourself to be prepared for harder financial situations that might come down the pike,

that is okay with me. But sixty seven percent of people in this study said they're not prioritizing savings either, So they're dialing back on investments, they're not prioritizing savings. And to me, that's the clutch move is if you're going to dial back on investing, you have to increase your savings. If you're not, then I want you to keep investing where you are instead of just pulling money back and investing less in those retirement accounts so you can have more money to spend right now.

Speaker 1

Okay, and then you do. You need to keep in mind too that it's not like a dollar for dollar thing, because I noticed that when I increased my four h one K contribution by like three or four percent, it was like less than a percent of my take on pay that was reduced.

Speaker 2

So what do you mean by that?

Speaker 1

Well, I'm saying that if because it's pre tax that the four to one k is taken out. It's it's not like if I put an extra two hundred dollars a month in, it's not two hundred dollars less on my paycheck.

Speaker 2

Yes, that's exactly right. Yeah.

Speaker 7

And the other thing to note too is well, hey, what is my workplace contribution amount? And what do I have to do to earn the full match? So if you're saying I'm at six percent right now and they'll match three, I'm going to dial back to four. Well, if it means your employer's only putting in two percent, now, you've not just reduced your contribution amount by two percent, you've effectively reduced it by three percent. And you've you've taken free money off the table. So you have to

be aware of that too. And again it might be wise if your liquid savings is paltry and you need to beef that up because you're worried about your job, you're worried about your industry, then that makes total sense to me. You need to be prepared in liquid savings are a huge part of that. If you go to how to money dot com and you click start here, I've got something.

Speaker 2

Called the money gears.

Speaker 7

Find out where you are in the money gears and that can help you know what to do next. I don't love seeing people invest less, but if it's a limited time only thing to boost your cash cushion, then I think it could be wise.

Speaker 1

Okay. For more great money advice, listen to how to Money on Sundays from noon to two right here on KFI. You can also follow Joel at how to Money. Joel It's Joe Larscard. Thank you so much for the great advice and information as always.

Speaker 2

Oh happy too, Thanks Amy.

Speaker 1

All right, talk to you next week. This has been your wake up call. If you missed any wake up call, you can listen anytime on the iHeartRadio app. You've been listening to wake Up Call with me Amy King. You can always hear wake Up Call five to six am Monday through Friday on KFI Am six forty and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.

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