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American Hostages Released by Hamas

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Amy King hosts your Cyber Monday Wake Up Call. ABC News Radio Correspondent Jim Ryan talks about autism diagnoses rising among children, says CDC. Amy speaks with Alonda Batteo, who benefited first-hand by Chef Bruno and Caterina's Club, about tomorrow’s 13th Annual KFI PastaThon benefiting Caterina's Club. To date, they have provided over 9 million meals, helped get 265 families back into stable homes, and graduated over 800 teens from their Hospitality Academy. ABC News Reporter live from Jerusalem Jordana Miller discusses the two Americans who were among the latest group of Hamas hostages released. ABC National News Correspondent Tom Rivers speaks on the 3-year cruise that was cancelled after the company acknowledged it doesn’t have a ship.

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You're listening to KFI AM six forty wake Up Call with me Amy King on demand on the iHeartRadio app KFI and KOST HD two Los Angeles and Orange County. How dad can get a good call your host Amy Kay, good morning, It's five o'clock. Straight up. This is your wake up call for Monday, November twenty seventh. Less than thirty days still Christmas. We can totally geek out on Christmas. Now Thanksgiving is done, so now we're free and clear. I'm one of those people who tries to stay, you know,

stick to the rule that one holiday at a time. Well, now Thanksgivings over, it's on. Had a great weekend, hope you guys had a great weekend and enjoyed some time off. I know kno was having two Thanksgivings. Did you recover? It was a long day the first Thanksgiving with a almost three year old, yeah, and five children under six years old. When did the meltown? When did the meltdowns start? At the end of my parents which is the first house we went to. Yeah, so

it was and then you had the rest of the day. Yeah, it was a long day, but a good day. It was fun. Okay, yeah, I did. We had a small Thanksgiving with my brother and his girlfriend and it was great. And then I got to go up to paser Obols for the weekend to see my best friend who recently moved up there, and so we did wine tasting, as one is wont to do in paser Robos. That was fabulous. And then we did our small Business Saturday and went down to San Luis Obispo, which I've never been to. Their

little downtown area really cool. So I love Small Business Saturday. It's just a you know, you can go to the malls any day and you kind of forget about some of the small businesses, and if you forget about, some of them are going to go away, Like in Claremont. We used to go to Claremont on Saturdays after Thanksgiving, and now Claremont is still a beautiful little place, but a lot of the little shops that they had that you could do some of your great shopping, have just closed up. So

gotta support. I also missed traffic. Did you guys get stuck in traffic? I missed traffic because I headed home really early yesterday, so I'm heading south on the Grapevine and of course still freaking out because remember, I don't know if you remember, but a couple months ago my car broke down on the Grapevine but that's a whole other story. So but and traffic was not bad, but heading north it was crazy. And that was like at ten o'clock in the morning, and I was like, oh my gosh, I

feel bad for the people who didn't get an early start yesterday. So hope you made it home safe and sound. Hope you had a great weekend. Here's what is ahead on wake Up Call. More hostages are expected to be released on this fourth day of the Israel Hamas ceasefire. Israel has said it would extend the ceasefire by one day for every ten day additional hostages released.

We're going to be talking with ABC's Geordana Miller in about a half hour and get the latest on what's going on now, who's been released, and if there's going to be an extension to that ceasefire. So Call is bracing for another round of strong Santa Ana wins. Forecasters say gusts of thirty to fifty miles per hour are expected through tomorrow, with US up to sixty miles per hour in the mountains and foothills after the winds. We have a chance of

rain Wednesday through Friday. It's this light one, but there's a chance. A newly unsealed legal complaint claims Facebook and Instagram deliberately engineered its social platforms to hook kids. The complaint also alleges the company new but never disclosed, that it had received millions of complaints about underage users and only acted on a fraction

of them. Parent company met us as the complaint misrepresents its work. At six oh five, It's handle on the news, A forty eight year old has been arrested in connection with the shooting of three Palestinian students in Vermont that's being called a hate crime. Let's get started with some of the stories coming out of the CAMFI twenty four hour newsroom. An American girl who spent her fourth birthday as a hostage in Gaza is one of the latest group of hostages

released as part of the ceasefire agreement with Israel. President Biden's The girl's parents were killed when Hamas attacked on October seventh. Those who are now Rappie and Abigail in love and care and the support of services she needs she's been through a terrible trauma. A nine year old Israeli girl, who also had a birthday while being held hostage, was also freed over the weekend. She'd been

sleeping over at a friend's house when she was kidnapped. Her father thought she had been killed and said he was relieved because she wouldn't have to suffer in captivity. Police and vermon have arrested a man accused of shooting three Palestinian College students. Authority say the students were outside the man's apartment yesterday when they were

shot. ABC's Andrew Dimbert says two were wearing Palestinian scars. They were reportedly speaking Arabic while returning to one of their relatives' homes when police say the suspect approached them and fired at least four rounds without saying a word, then ran off. Two of the injured students are in stable condition. The other has more serious injuries. The Oli County Sheriff's Burglary Robbery Task Force has arrested ten people in connection with a flash mob robbery at a Nike store in East la

The store on Whittier Boulevard was hit several times over the summer. Deputies have linked the robberies to two criminal street gangs that focused on organized retail theft. A man walking on the one to one Freeway has been hit and killed shpieces. It happened in the eastbound lanes just west of DeSoto Avenue around three this morning. A burst water pipe in Hermosa Beach is sent a torrent of water into Redondo Beach. Hermosa Beach police say the pipe, controlled by California Water

Service burst last night in the area of Harper Avenue in Ormond Lane. Official say hundreds of thousands of gallons spilled. Let's say good morning now to ABC's Jim Ryan. Good night morning, Jim, Hey Amy, good morning, Happy Thanksgiving, a little bit lated, happy belated Thanksgiving to you, and now I will say happy Christmas season because it's on. It is on.

Yeah. I was seeing all the stuff in the stores now a few twinkling lights on a few houses and a few neighborhoods, and that's going to grow right through the twentieth maybe the twenty first, when people finally finished putting up their stuff. I know some people in where I was visiting this weekend already had everything up like fully fully loaded and had all the inflatables up and all the lights and everything, and I was like, oh, I got to

get my Christmas stuff out. But anyway, hey, we wanted to talk to you today because we have a not it's pretty unsettling that the CDC has come out with a new information. Autism used to become a pretty uncommon thing, but this new report says that's not the case anymore. Well, no, you're right, and unsettling in a way, yes, but also heartening. I mean it offers some hope because yes, the number of children diagnosed

with autism spectrum disorder has been rising consistently. It's also risen dramatically since the nineteen nineties, when really public awareness began to spike about this. So right now, Center's for Is Controlling Prevention shows that about one in thirty six children age eight in the country has been diagnosed with autism. In two thousand, the number was about one in one hundred and fifties. So, yes, this number has gone up dramatically. But does that mean that not many more

children actually have autism spectrum disorder. No, but it means more have been diagnosed. The diagnosis has gotten much better. I mean the diagnostic criteria have changed. It was first described in the nineteen forties, but back then they didn't know what to do about it. They really didn't know what to look for. But that has improved dramatically, and so in nineteen eighty four, the American Psychiatric Association released the fourth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of

Mental Disorders. Was included in that, and so that's why we've seen this, the diagnosis go up dramatically. So you know, it's likely that by age eight, most kids, maybe all kids, have been screened at one time or another, and because of public awareness, parents know what to look for early on, even in their toddlers, even before the kid reaches toddler age, there are signs that they can look for. And when does is

there a typical time when it starts presenting itself? Well, I mean again, it's around the pre k around kindergarten, around those times, because that's when you start to see kids who are interacting more with other kids. And for most of them, it's it's a fairly easy natural process. They make friends with their other little kids and grow from there. But some kids have trouble. They don't socialize well. With other kids. Does that absolutely mean

autism spectrum disorder? No, absolutely not, but certainly that's one of the things on a checklist that pediatry since we'll be looking for as they try to

make this diagnosis. You know, I think back to when I was in school and some of the kids who were you know that they, like you said, they had trouble interacting with other kids, and you wonder maybe that person was on the spectrum, as they say, and we just didn't know because we didn't have the diagnostic tools at that time, so they didn't know what they were looking for. Absolutely, And if you look back to the fifties, the sixties, the seventies, then that's really when not the fifties,

Gym, I'm not that old. Well, no, I understand, but really that's when things came to light. I'll tell you a story, I mean personal story that my brother who's seventy and seventy years old now is autistic, and really he was diagnosed way after even high school. There was just no recognition. Nobody knew what to do about it. Misdiagnoses all along the way. But he's lived a great life. Mary lives independently with his wife and so it's not a it's not a sentence to a life of certainly

institutionalization, which it would have been in the thirties and forties. Maybe, Yeah, there is a there's a light head and for a lot of folks in great life, I love that. And and with the diagnoses, it's it's kind of catching everybody who's on the spectrum, as they call it. Yes, and it has evolved somewhat so that certain things are not necessarily included

in that in that diagnosis. But you're right. For example, you know Asperger syndrome and this catch all pervasive developmental disorder not otherwise specified d d n os. Those were added to the diagnostic diagnostic tools back in the nineties but then taken off that list. These are specialized things that those terms just really aren't used so much anymore. Okay, So even though the numbers are up, it's actually a good thing because it means we're catching it absolutely, that's

right. You know, doesn't mean the incidence is hire most likely Now it's a matter of trying to find out why. And we still don't have any idea why what's causing this. Well, there are clues, you know, there are external factors. You know, women are giving birth later and that's associated in a lot of cases with the disorder prenatal exposure to air pollution or pesticide paternal OBCD. The country's weight overall has gone up and that is associated

sometimes with this. So we've got clues. Absolutely cause has been found, not yet, but they're looking. Oh keep looking to Thank you so much, Jim Ryan, appreciate all the information. Thanks Amy. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. A couple dozen people have held a protest outside the La County Sheriff station in East La, calling for deputies to face consequences for beating a disabled man.

Video shows a deputy seeming to place a man in a chokehold while the other punches him repeatedly in the face. The man's attorney says the beating was not justified. There was no report of a crime, There was no one who called nine one one on mister Ernandez, and there was nothing which should have caused the deputies to have stopped mister Hernandez. Despite those facts, they tried to stop him, and when they stopped him, they recognized that he had

a disability. The Sheriff's Department says Alejandro Hernandez, who is an amputee, had reached for his waistband where he was hiding a loaded gun and was resisting arrest. A major drug trafficker with connections to L. Choppo's cartel in Mexico has been killed in South LA. Investigators with the La County Sheriff's Department say Eduardo Escobedo was one of two gunned down in an industrial area of Willowbrook.

Officials say Escabato was killed during a party overnight Wednesday and the Thursday, though a specific motive wasn't given. Escobato, who went by the nickname El Mago or the Magician, was raised in East LA and worked for L. Choppo's oldest son, often bragging and flaunting his lavish lifestyle by posting pictures of himself drinking high end champagne and posing with celebrities like Floyd Mayweather and Al Pacino. Steve Gregory k if I knew, I wish. It was so sad to

hear this. Over the weekend, fans and coworkers are remembering the co creator of hr Puff and Stuff, Marty Croft, died of kidney failure over the weekend at his home in La His older brother Sid shared the news yesterday on social media. As brothers created the popular kids show featuring the life sized dragon puppet back in nineteen sixty nine. They also were behind the Land of the Lost Sigmund and the Sea Monsters. Those were both in the seventies, and

of course, who could forget the Banana Splitz. Marty Croft was eighty six pastath on twenty twenty three. Is here. We're going to be at the Anaheim White House tomorrow morning, starting right at five am with wake up call and leading up to our show, we wanted to introduce you to one of the kids whose life was changed thanks to Chef Bruno and Katerina's Club. The money and the pasta you donate helps kids now and continues to affect them after

they're all grown up. So let's say good morning now to Alandra Beteo. Alandra, how did you first come to know oh, Chef Bruno. I was about six or seven years old when I started going to the Boys and Girls Club and Bruno people come bring pasta to the club that I would participate at. So he will give us pasta before we will go home every day, and then he went to our mobile home park where I used to live

at com bring his pasta. And then during the month of November he will come with the Chapman students to come deliver turkeys and all the stuff that you know, it's needed for Thanksgiving dinner. And yeah, that's how I got to know him. So you were involved in the Boys and Girls Club? So did you go there every day after school? Yes? And about how many kids were in your Boys and Girls clubs? Oh, well, we got a lot of kids from my mobile home park. It was a good

ten of us every day, ten of us from Monday through Friday. But over on the Boys and Girls Club, I would say a good two hundred to fifty kids a day. That's great, okay. And I would imagine when you're seven years old, you don't really realize what's going on. I know that Chef Bruno is bringing you guys food, and isn't that lovely? But did you as you grew older, did you start to realize that one he was helping out your family by maybe taking some of the food burden off

of them and really helping tons and tons of people. Yes, it was actually a funny story, like one time I had my shoes off for some reason. There was a skate park there and I was changing my shoes and there was holes on my socks and Bruno saw that. The next day, he had someone buy me socks from the store, making sure that I have what I needed, because back then it was kind of hard on my family,

especially with the rent that my parents had to pay. Were just him buying socks or even him coming to our mobile file parking give us food to low income families like it benefited a lot. That's so cool. So that was when you were seven years old, and now you're twenty two, twenty one, twenty one. Oh, she's still talking. One. Okay, what are you doing with yourself these days? Right now? I am a

for fear, I ca'll say full til. I'll be finishing up my degree in the sociology in May, so I'm hoping that I work with children. I do want to give back to my community. Right now, I'm actually working as a pre college advisor, So the students that I serve are low income, first generation students trying to get to higher education, and hopefully I get to my master's so I could become a school counselor look at you along he that is so great, and I think it's just testament to what this

program does. It changes lives. It doesn't only fill up their bellies and fills up their hearts and their minds too. So thank you so much, and that's luck to you. Congratulations, thank you appreciate it, Alandro. Butteo, isn't that great? I mean, like you feed a kid in the afternoon and you don't realize the long term implications that that has. And you can help make a different by joining us for Pastathon twenty twenty three.

As we mentioned, Chef Bruno's charity charity Katerina's Club, provides more than twenty five thousand meals every week to kids in need in Southern California, and we can't do it without you, so we want you to join us. You can donate at pastathon dot com, shop at any Smart and Final store and donate at checkout, Go to any Wendy's restaurant in Southern California and donate,

and of course join us tomorrow all day. We're going to be broadcasting live from the Anaheim White House on Giving Tuesday from five am, starting with wake up call then with Gary and Shannon after that and John and Ken and Tim Conway and wrapping things up with later with Mo Kelly. So we're gonna go all the way until ten o'clock tomorrow night, and we want you to come and see us. Make a donation. One hundred percent of your donation goes

to Katerina's Club. It's pastathon dot com. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour news room. A homeowner in Chatsworth says thieves have stolen dozens of high end purses and several watches from his home. The family was out shopping on Black Friday, probably about thirty to forty five handbags, Chanelle Gucci, about six watches, a Cardier diamond watch, four rolixes. He tells KTLA this stuff was worth about two hundred

thousand dollars. He also says the thieves used bear spray on the family's two Pomeranians. Police and Westminster have arrested the mother of a nine year old girl found dead inside her home. Officers had gone to the home Friday to do a welfare check and forced their way in. Only the girl was there. The mom was arrested at a shopping center in Aliso Via Home. A five year old girl rescued after she was swept out to sea and half Moon Bay

has died at the hospital. The search for a fifty four year old man also swept away Saturday has been called off. The Coastguard says two people at Martin's Beach had been reported swept out to sea by what officials called a sneaker wave. The Weather Service says such waves surge much farther up the beach than expected and can overtake a person. Jesus. A naked man has been arrested

for causing a commotion on the Small World ride at Disneyland. The guy apparently got off the ride yesterday, stripped down to his underwear and walked or onto some of the attractions. Video shows him walking around as Christmas music plays in the background. It was splashing in the water as park employees went up to him. He was carried away and arrested for Indisian exposure and being under the influence of a controlled substance. A guess station employee's mistake is paid off for

a lottery player in Michigan. The man usually apparently buys a lottery ticket for ten or twenty draws, but in September, the employee accidentally printed out a ticket with ten lines for a single draw. Well. That ticket was worth twenty five thousand dollars a year for life. The man who bought it recently claimed the lump sum of three hundred and ninety thousand dollars. More hostages are expected to be released on this fourth day of the Israel Hamas cease fire.

Israel has said it would extend the ceasefire by one day for every ten additional hostages released. Southern California is bracing for another round of strong Santa Ana winds. Forecasters say wind gus thirty to fifty miles per hour are expected through tomorrow, with us up to sixty miles per hour in the mountains and foothills. After the wind, there's a slight chance of rain Wednesday through Friday. Its just a twenty percent chance, but still there. Some Gen z Ers may

not be heading home for the holidays because of student loans. A recent Credit Karma survey found many Gen Z Americans with student debt can't afford to pay for travel on top of their student loan payments. About a third say they are relying on their parents to pay for their holiday travel. At six oh five, it's handle on the news. This one brings back memories. The King

of Saturday Mornings, Marty Kroft, has died at five poin fifty. We're going to be talking to ABC's Tom Rivers about a dream cruise that has well pretty much turned out to be a nightmare and it hasn't even set sail. We're waiting for Georgiana mill It looks like she's calling in right now from Jerusalem, where it's early morning. Good morning, Jordana. First of all, let's start with the good news, and that is that we got her back.

How's little Abigail doing. We understand she's doing well. She's been reunited with her siblings. She has two siblings that survived the October seventh attack, even though her parents were murdered by Hamas on that day. Her aunt is with her. She's still at the hospital special children's ward that has been created in one of his reluff hospitals, and she's doing well. Her aunt, who is now going to raise her, is there with her, and we

hear that she's okay. It's so hard because it's like, it's heartwarming to hear that this four year old who turned four years old while being held hostage by a mosque is back free. She's, like you said, she's with family, but her parents were murdered in front of her on October seventh. That's right, and it's you know, it's it's horrifying. Let's hope she has no memory of it or you know, because she was so little, but she's there were many children who saw their parents killed in front of them

on October seventh. I mean, there are there are two kids who essentially hid in a closet for fourteen hours and they they saw their their first their father being killed that was killed, and then their mother who was shot. So these are these are this is going to be a whole group of children that are you know, have to live with the trauma of growing up with, you know, losing one or two parents on October seventh, and some

of them being old enough to remember witnessing it. Yeah, And it was I was watching some of the footage from from that area where you said that they're taking some of the children and showing them and it's so just surreal because they just look like kids and they're holding teddy bears and they seem to be okay, but there's going to be a lot of trauma for these kids.

Yeah, they, I mean, Israel's basically to its credit, they have put together teams for each family to deal with any you know, to deal with the symptoms of trauma that will likely come out later, not right after the release. You know, I know, there was I think maybe you're talking about the same picture. I remember seeing a little girl, you know, holding a teddy bear at the first the little blonde girl. That's that's Emily, her name, her name is Emily Alone and she was she was

released. I think she's only about six, but she was there with other children as well. I mean, the only saving grace for these children is that most of them were there with family, with their with one parent, and in the case of Avigali Dan, you know, she was with another few children and a mother who took care of her as well. So you know, they you know, they the fact that they were kept in groups

helped them, you know, cope with the cope with captivity. It's had their optimism that they would be essentially or ultimately uh you know, released and freed. So you know, that's maybe the only silver lining of their captivity is that they most of them were not alone. Yeah, okay, and we're expecting another group to be released today, So I think, what are we at thirty nine ish, thirty or nine or forty? Right? We're at thirty right, We're at thirty nine. And then in a separate deal

with Russia, one male Israeli in his twenties was released. He also has an incredible story. He escaped from after a bombing, an Israeli Israeli bombing raid. His hideout got hit, he escaped. He was on the run for a few days trying to find the border, the Israeli border. Then Gosin's turned him back over to Hamas and you know, thank god, he was freed last night. We're supposed to see another eleven come out today, but there have been some hiccups and there looks like there's going to be a

delay to the release. Instead of happening in the next hour, we might have to wait a few more hours before the handover begins. Israel says that Hamas has given them a list that you know, does not include mothers and children together. And this is one of the basic requirements, so they're trying

to sort that out. But there is optimism that Israel and Hamas will extend this eeaspire for at least one more day, okay, and when if the fire is extended, that again it's a slippery slope because it can help give Hamas more time to regroup and get ready to start the fighting again. Because nett Ya, who's still saying, when the ceasefire is over, we're going

back at it, that's right. And obviously Israel is making a calculation that you know, they have achieved enough in the war up until now, and they're in a strong position where they can afford to you know, hold their fire for another couple of days and then the overall plan to you know, push them off out of the Godsen strip that can still be accomplished even if

they give it another two or three or four days. There have been, you know, no attacks on Israeli soldiers, there haven't been any serious violations of the agreement. So far. It is going well. So you know, every every extra day will bring home more innocent people who are abducted, and right now that seems to be the priority. Okay, Well, we'll be watching and hope they get the hiccups ironed out, smooth out. We can get more people home. Thank you so much than it in tandem there.

Thank you, Jordana. We'll talk to you soon. Let's get back to some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. An ex convict recently found guilty of shooting an LAPD officer to death is going to be sentenced today. Sixty five year old Kenneth Gay was found guilty of first degree murder in August after his case was retried. He killed an LAPED officer during a traffic stop in West Terrace in nineteen eighty three. He's now

facing life in prison without the possibility of parole. Memorial observances for former First Lady Rosalind Carter are set to begin in Georgia. The procession will begin in Plains, Georgia, where Rosalind Carter was born. The Carter family is set to hold a brief ceremony at the Sumpter Medical Center, where the former First

Lady's remains will be transferred to a herb. ABC's Mike Dubuski says a reeflaying ceremony is going to be held at the Rosalind Carter Health and Human Sciences Complex at Southwestern State University before the motorcade arrives at the Jimmy Carter Presidential Library in Atlanta. Rosalind Carter died on November nineteenth. She was ninety six. Well,

it turns out Wish was no match for The Hunger Games. So Disney's new movie, the animated movie that we talked about on last week couple of times, was supposed to be number one at the box office, but The Hunger Games Songbirds and Snakes finished first. It's now grossed almost one hundred million dollars domestically in two weeks of release. It won the weekend with forty two million dollars for the five day holiday frame, and that was more than Whish,

which came in with thirty one point seven million in five days. And actually even Napole beat Wish out and that's the one with Joaquin Phoenix. It took in thirty two and a half million dollars for the five day long holiday weekend. So that's sort of a surprise. I need. I think next time I talk to Jason, I want to ask him. And maybe you guys already know this, but how do they make those estimates? Because you go, oh, it's a Disney movie, it's going to be big,

But how do they estimate how big it's going to be? Yeah, something we'll ask him about. Israel and Hamas are preparing for a fourth exchange of hostages for Palestinians as mediators seek to extend a ceasefire in Gaza that's set to expire after today. Hamas freed seventeen more hostages yesterday on the third day of the truce. In turn, Israel released thirty nine Palestinian prisoners. A federal court panel will consider the gag ordered today and former President Trump's civil fraud trial

in New York City. The order was temporarily blocked by an appeals court. Trump has on several occasions railed against the judge and court staff in his trial, leading to the gag order being imposed last month. It is cyber Monday. I might have to look for it. But there are some big deals out there. Amazon has won a thirty two inch high def TV slashed in

half just eighty dollars. There's also vacuum cleaners, pillows, air pods, mattresses, furniture, and lots of other electronics, but analysts are warning to beware of scams and do your research before you buy. We're just minutes away from handle. On the news this morning, somebody lost it on It's a Small World. He lost his mind and his clothes. I'll tell you about that right now. Let's say good morning to ABC News correspondent Tom Rivers.

Good morning Tom. It was supposed to be the trip of a lifetime, but it's kind of turned into a nightmare for some passengers, oh very much. So. Can imagine you're getting ready to go on a cruise for maybe ten days or maybe even two weeks, and something happens with the operator. Okay, it's not good, but you can bounce back from that. These individuals, one hundred eleven cabins were sold for people to go on a cruise for three count them three years, so a lot of them. All these

people you know at the age maybe they're retired. They rented out their houses or sold their houses in some cases, got rid of some possessions. Some people got rid of small businesses. And they got a flight to Istanbul, where this adventure was supposed to begin, and then they started getting the run around. The firm called Life at Sea Cruises said, well, we got some delays, just hang loose for a while. A few weeks later they said, have you guys hook up with the boat in Amsterdam? Now what

happened behind the scenes. The boat they wanted to purchase for this three year adventure. They didn't secure the funds and was out bid. They went for a second vessel, they got out bid on that one. They looked at a third vessel, too small for the amount of passengers. So finally they threw in the towel said you're not going anywhere. We'll fly you home and we'll get your money back to you in three months December, January and February.

But you know, if you were living in la and said, okay, I guess I'm flying home, gosh, I just just rented out my flat for twelve months, exactly what a tangled, tangled mess. And of course these things usually end up in court for lengthy periods of time. But boy, what a mess for the individuals that thought this was going to be the most amazing way of dealing. I guess with the twilight, you know,

part of their lives. Oh my god. Yeah, And I didn't even think about that part that you just mentioned, and that's that they probably either sold their homes or rented them out or shut down their businesses because yeah, three your crews, you don't need your house for a while. So how much did the cruise cost? Do we know? We don't seen.

It's tens of thousands, but they say on an average, and I don't know how they calculate it, you know, high and low, but they said average couple, you know, paying whatever after you're retired per month, that would be equivalent in your town to not maybe not l but in your average American town to say, to say, the cost of a month on this vessel. So you know you're paying out the same amount, but you get one heck of an adventure. Yeah, so let's just guesstimate five to

six thousand dollars, Yeah, something like that. Yeah, okay, so that time's twelve, that's sixty, so two hundred basically about two hundred and forty thousand dollars. Nope, one hundred and eighty thousand dollars for three lots of bucks. Any inventive if you get if you get a nice balcony cabin or you got an internal whatever. But yeah, everything is round figures.

But yeah, it's a lot of money. And as I said at the top, if you if this were you know, it would be bad if it was a one week cruise, yeah, you know, but you can bounce back from No, you're going back to maybe live with your kids or or a cousin's gonna put you up until you get your life together whatever. A real mess. Well, and then to add insult to injury, they're not even giving them a refund right away. They're like, oh, we're going to spread it out. We'll get you, we'll get you that in

the next few months exactly. So I mean, if if you if you didn't see the red flags initially on that score as well more red flag so you know, fingers crossed. They all get their money back. But you know, I don't know if I'd bet on that or not. Okay. So, and this isn't it's life at sea cruises. It's not one of the big ones. It's not like Princess or Caribbean or anything like that. They're not a filliate no, okay. But again it's a small little world.

These people generally have worked for other cruise lines. They know what's going on. But the management here really was was caught out. And if you're gonna, if you're gonna set up a boat. In fact, they were initially going after a German subsidiary of Carnival Corporation Cruises. They were going after a vessel that was being put up for sale. If you're gonna do that, you do that many many months in advance. Why because they said,

in this case they have to get it into drydock. They have to, you know, go through everything with a fine tooth comb because just this this vessel is going to be at sea for three years. So you go through everything, you know, the engine, the plant, everything from top to bottom, generators, you name it. But you don't do it by saying, well, let's buy a boat in September and we'll sail it in October. It doesn't work like that. Yeah. Oh man, I feel really

bad for these people, I know. Yeah, all right, all right, thank you so much, Tom Rivers, appreciate the information. Take care boy, that sucks. That's an early non Christmas present, right Hey, Speaking of Christmas, the Hollywood Christmas Parade it's happening this weekend and it's going to step off from Orange Drive in Hollywood, Boulevard, following a U shaped route east to Vine Street, South on Vine to Sunset, West on Sunset

back to Orange. It's going to be co hosted by Eric Estrada and Dean Kine, so Superman and Chips. I love that, plus other media personalities and performances, and I love this. The Grand Marshall is retired Colonel Paris D. Davis, who was awarded the Medal of Honor in March, nearly sixty years after he was nominated for his heroism during the Vietnam War. It's

going to be the Grand Marshall, retired Colonel Paris D. Davis. And if you're not going to the parade, which is going to obviously cause a mess for traffic around Hollywood on Sunday, you can watch it on the CW Network. It'll air December fifteenth. This is KFI and kost HD two Los Angeles, Orange County, live from the KFI twenty four hour newsroom. I'm Amy King. This has been your wake up call, and if you missed any wake up call, you can listen anytime you want on the iHeartRadio app.

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