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A New Smartphone Company: Could "Nothing" Be Something?

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Amy King hosts your Wednesday morning. National Weather Service’s Dave Bruno comes on the show to let us know what to expect from the weather the rest of the week and to talk about the Northern Lights, where they can be seen and when. Amy speaks with KFI's Tech Reporter Rich DeMuro on this Wired Wednesday to talk about Threads, the new app released by Meta, a new incredible AI chatbot, and Amazon Prime Day. ABC Technology Reporter Mike Dobuski joins the program to discuss a new smartphone company. Your morning Wake Up Call wraps with ABC’s Jim Ryan talking about the Feds warning snack-lovers about look-alike products.

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You're listening to a wake up call on demand from KFI AMZI forty KFI hand KOST HD two, Los Angeles, Orange County. It's time for your morning wake up call. Here's any king, Good morning. This is your wake up call for Wednesday, July twelfth. I'm any king. Here's what's ahead on the wake up call. SAG after on Hollywood studios are bringing in a federal mediator to try to resolve contract issues before SAG's contract expires at midnight.

A new report shows the LAPD's unarmed response units can only handle a third of the mental health calls the department receives. And we're just getting this into the KFI newsroom. Crash in Illinois involving a Greyhound bus and several commercial vehicles has killed three people. Fourteen others have been injured six oh five. It's handle on the news. We're gonna be talking about a wild standoff on the Las

Vegas Strip. Twenty one stories up. It's a crazy one. Let's start with some of the stories coming out of the KFI twenty four hour newsrooms. Sag AFRA and the major Hollywood studios have called in a federal mediator to help resolve their ongoing contract dispute. The union says it has agreed to get a last minute request from the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television to get third party help with negotiations. SAG's contract expires at midnight tonight, and the actors have

already overwhelmingly voted to authorize a strike if a new deal isn't reached. The union hasn't gone on strike since nineteen eighty. A fire that's burned at least fourteen acres near Castaic Lake is fifty percent contained. It's been burning since about eight last night. John Miller with the US Forest Service says fire danger is getting extreme in southern California. It's getting warmer and it's gonna getting dried.

We're anticipating between now and Monday humidities anywhere from five to fifteen percent. Some roads in Castaic had to be closed overnight. No communities in the area are threatened. LAPD Chief More says there have been thirteen officer involved shootings so far this year. That's actually down from eighteen last year. The chief says the

drop in violent crimes most likely the reason for the decrease in oiss. Moore says the number of fatal officer involved shootings is also down seven so far this year compared to eight last year. Are for your average at this time again, averaged over the course of the entire year is just over six point five More says. Despite the dropping, overall violent crimes, including homicides, property crimes, and robberies continue to climb. More says the numbers are slowly returning

to pre pandemic levels. Steve Gregory, Kofi News California fielded more than two hundred eighty thousand calls, chats and texts for suicide prevention in the first year

of the state's new nine eight eight crisis line. Nationally, we have seen several million contacts Steedie Hers's State crisis line director Matt Taylor says the easy to remember nine eight eight number, which started last July, has normalized the importance of help seeking about five percent increase in the answer rays compared to pre launch and a close to twenty eight percent volume increase for calls. Taylor says the

text feature is also new and very popular with young people seeking help. He says ninety eight percent of calls were resolved without the need for further intervention. In La Corbin Carson ka if I News the Iowa House has passed a bill that would ban abortion once a heartbeat is detected. That's usually about six weeks into a pregnancy. Republican Governor Kim Reynolds pushed for the passage of the new bill yesterday, which is nearly identical to Iowa's fetal heartbeat law in twenty eighteen

that was ruled unconstitutional by the state Supreme Court. The measure has some exceptions for rape and incest, as long as the cases are reported to police. South Korea says North Korea has launched a ballistic missile toward the North Eastern Waters. The launch yesterday came after North Korea threatened consequences to protest what it called provocative US reconnaissance activity. Earlier this week, North Korea has accused the US

of sending military planes to spy on its territory. Nearly twenty thousand dollars in reward money has been offered for information leading to the capture of an escaped inmate in Pennsylvania. Police Lieutenant Colonel George Bivens says they believe the man is hiding in the woods nearby and could be getting help from someone by caution, anyone that is currently giving help or is contemplating it, we will prosecute you for

it. Bivens says. The suspected killer is believed to have climbed out onto a roof last week and shimming down a rope made of sheeps sheets rather to escape. More than two hundred officers are looking for him. The guy in Texas police say went along with his mother's lies about being missing for eight years has told US station in Houston he felt brainwashed. I just wanted to be I wanted to have my own job. Rudy Ferry has told KTRK it felt

like prison, having to stay in isolation for almost a decade. He says he lost his brother and dad and felt like he had to be there for his mom, who told him he'd get in trouble if he didn't go along with it. The social network Twins are suing another former tech friend. Tyler and Cameron Winklevoss, are apparently once again on the short end of a recent

tech craze. The brothers took a sixty five million dollars settlement from Mark Zuckerberg over who came up with the idea of Facebook as featured in the twenty ten biopick movie The Social Network. The winkle Vy as they've since become known, took some of that money and invested in bitcoin and cryptocurrency. They're now suing their former friend in crypto king Barry Silbert for a billion dollars after his digital

currency company filed for bankruptcy. Meanwhile, big investment firms, including black Rock and Fidelity are recently embracing the crypto industry, leaving the winkle Vye on the outside once again. Michael Krozer KFI News Coming up at five twenty, we're gonna be talking with Rich to merrow our tech guy. We got threads, we got Prime Day, and a new AI chatbot. First, let's start with a look at traffic and Nick polyo'keini got a slowing in the cahoone Pass

on the fifteen. Good morning, Amy, It's gonna be a busy one for folks that are making their way southbound right now as they're coming through the pass. As you're seeing while leaving the escape ramp heading toward at Lisa, let's say Claghorn loosens up before you make your way toward Kenwood, and then even before that in the hyperiarea in the fifteen southbound before Main Street, you've got a reckon involving big rig. Looks like the right landy is taken away

and that's gonna be a rough go for your drive. As you're coming away from Bear Valley Road for their southbound on the fifteen through the Inland Empire. Not looking too bad for your drive westbound ninety one Riverside through Corona. Lighting patchy so far for you as you come away from before Magnolia, continue toward the two forty one Toll Road and then it loosens up beyond that out orbl Inda through Anaheim Hills, continuing toward the fifty five gott An updated something slowing

you down pound to fifteen. Your cell phone keyword is KFY traffic as you're heading fourteen southbound not too easy bad this morning, but definitely some light patch you delay showing up for you out of the Palmdale Adjacenary from before the merged Pair Blossom Highway, and that'll be patching for the drive fourteen southbound. As you continue through the Acting area into Aura, dul say, okay, if I find the sky helps get to there faster. I'm Nick paulo'keini. Thank

you, Nick. It is five h seven on your wake up call. Well, you know that the heat is here. We've been telling you about it, and of course you're feeling it, I'm sure. So we thought we'd get an official look at what we've got going and what we've got coming. It's the National Weather Services. Dave Bruno. Good morning, Dave, good morning. How are you. We're doing great, staying cool so far. So the heat is here. What are we expecting for today and the

rest of the week. Well, unfortunately, this was yesterday was just kind of an appetizer. It's really going to get quite increasingly hot as we moved toward the next few days and toward the weekend. It looks like temperatures today we're probably top out around one hundred degrees, maybe one hundred and two in the Antelopea, in the Santa Clarita Valley and all those typically hotter places.

But we're really expecting more dangerous heat to begin tomorrow, and so we have a heat advisories for all of those interior areas, basically the mountains and the Santa Clarita Valley and stuff like that. And then that expands into the closer valleys like the San Fernando and San Gabriel Valley. It looks like by Friday, and so basically it's just going to keep I mean, I hate to say, but it's going to keep getting hotter, especially across interior areas.

You know, there will be some relief at the beaches. There's going to be a persistent marine layer that's probably going to keep temperatures really nice. If you like cooler weather in the seventies right at the coast there in the afternoons and just be cloudy in the mornings, or how's that going to That is a million dollar question because this is always well, this is always a really tricky time of year because what you have is you have this dense cold air

and there's a typically strong marine inversion. So sometimes it's really hard for the sun to burn that off right at the beaches, especially as we keep getting on shore flow piling in. I think most beach areas will have a fair amount of sunshine eat each afternoon. But but you're right, that's a tough, tough question. In any event, I think it's going to feel a lot better at the beaches than it will, you know, ten twenty miles inland. I think that's a good place to beat the heat. This weekend.

Man, it's already crowded at the beaches, so I would imagine it might be a little more crowded. So so when when's the hottest day of this heatwave? Yeah, it looks as though I would say either probably Saturday.

Saturday looks as though everything's coming together for the absolute hottest day. I think there's a chance temperature could reach over one hundred and ten degrees in the Antelope Valley, maybe one hundred and five to one hundred and eight degrees in places like the Santa Clarita Valley and Woodland Hills, all the usual hot spots. It's going to be very hot on Saturday, but Friday and Sunday aren't going to be that much different. I think Sunday will only be just a

touch cooler, if anything, than Saturday. Um, So it really it looks like the heat's going to continue into Monday before slowly easing off during midweek. So we do have a rough few days. I think part of the you know, there's going to be there could be potential power issues when we

have these hot, dry conditions. It really causes problems and places at this time of the year when there's been a lot of grass growth and the grass has really dried up, so you have a chance of getting fires if people are careless, you know, careless with a cigarette or something like that. So that's something to be you know, considered of, is that we may actually have any We will have an increase in fire danger over the next few days due to the heat. Are we expecting winds as well or are we

going to catch a break with that. There will be some winds in the Anilo Valley typically when we get this onshore flow figure coming from sixty degree water and one hundred and ten degrees over the Annalope Valley, so you do have

that density difference which allows the onshore flow. So even though it's going to get hot like a furnace in the Antilo Valley, it's still gonna be breezy because they're actually going to believe it or not, it's considered onshore flow, but they're so far inland, it's not going to feel like any type of relief. It's going to be very hot. You know what I've noticed with us when it's breezy and hot like that. It feels like when you walk

outside, you're stepping into an oven. You know how you get that rush of heat when you walk outside. I guy to everybody says, oh, it's a dry heat. I'm like, wells is a convection oven. I don't know. But to be honest with you, you have a very good point. That's the only place that I think the winds will be strong. Otherwise we are going to catch a break in general from the winds with the thankf Litley. We're not in Santa Anna season yet, so you know,

that could be a real issue with this year. Okay, and Dave, is this heat normal? I mean, it's always hot and stuff in California in the summer, but it seems like the real heat traditionally comes a little

bit later. I would yes, that's that's true. I do think this is about we're approaching record territory for the daytime highs across the interior, so it is I think it's among you know, it's it's in like the top five percent of of you know, maybe Saturday, especially if if we're getting temperatures up near one hundred and ten or one hundred and eleven degrees in Lancaster

and Pondale. I mean, that's only a few fewgrees away from their all time record highs, which I believe a one fifteen or one sixteen there. So, so when you're starting to get numbers of one hundred and ten and you're only five degrees or so below you're all time max, I think that's

a pretty good, pretty good indicator of just how hot this is. Well, and you're right, I think typically we might expect this more toward the end of July and especially August. But unfortunately, if you don't like the heat, I think you're gonna have to try to get to the beach or stay in police stay in a cool air condition place if you're fortunate enough to have that. Yeah, it's always fun to break records, but in this case, let's hope that we don't agreed. All right, Dave Bruno with

the National Weather Service, thank you so much for your information. It's gonna help a lot of people. Hey, welcome, stay safe and cool. All right, Okay, it's time for us to check in with KTLA tech reporter Rich Demiro, host of Rich on Tech right Here on KFI Saturdays from eleven am to two pm. Good morning, rich Hey, good morning to you. So Wednesday, Happy Wednesday, and I would imagine the people at Meta are pretty happy on this Wednesday because of threads. Yeah, I would

say. So this is the new alternative to Twitter. Some people are calling it the Twitter Killer, and it is basically a text version of Instagram but mixed in with some Twitter features. So basically, you sign up and you're able to send out short messages to folks that follow you. And this is owned by Meta, like you said, and a lot of people have come over. They have one hundred million people apparently that have signed up in the

last week or so. That doesn't necessarily mean that many people are using it, but from what I've seen on there, the intake is pretty good. People are liking it, and it's a kind of a different experience than Twitter. We'll have to see what happens with this one. How is it difference than Twitter? Well, I think the people on there are breathing a sigh

of relief. You have a lot of people on there that, either for political reasons or elon Musk reasons, are wanting to get away from Twitter, and so they're all sort of like, Okay, this is the new thing, let's try it. There's an excitement in the air. Nobody knows if it's going to work. Nobody knows if it's going to be very good. And also some of the features that Twitter has are just not built in, Like you can't search for something, and you know, there's limited things like

I can't tag a post where the location is. So a lot of little features are still not there yet. So do you think that threads will evolve and add some of the things that Twitter has it doesn't have at this point? I think so. If we look at Meta's history, they pretty much start with something that clones something else and then they continue to evolve it. We saw it with the news Feed, we saw it with the stories,

we saw it with reels. You know, all of those things were pretty much taken from somewhere else, and so you know, this is very bare bones and basic. But it's promising because it's easy to sign up, it's connected to your Instagram, it's easy to use. But the problem is, I think, is that I don't know how many quote unquote regular people are going to use this. A lot of quote unquote regular people are on Instagram. It's just kind of like the standard thing that people use on their phone.

But Twitter is a whole different beast. You know, It's more news people, It's more people that are interested in a particular topic. So we'll just, like the average person download threads to like keep up with things. We'll see does it become a news source so far? I think a lot of you know, tech people are on there that I follow, so yeah, it could be, but I'm not using it enough to use it that

way. I still think Twitter rules in that regard, but it's getting tougher and tougher because a lot of the tech folks have left Twitter, but they're still trying to still use it. It's it's a mess, let's be honest. And I still like you said that. It's it's like Instagram without pictures. I like Instagram because of pictures. Yeah, and it gets very confusing

even for myself, like where do I post this stuff? So I've sort of in the past had my ways of where to post, you know, videos would go to reels, texts would go to Twitter, links would go to Twitter stories for stuff that's just sort of ephemeral and quick. And now it's like this threads is thrown in and I'm like wait a second, what do I post here? What do people even want to see on here? How are people using this? I think a lot of people are figuring that

out. It It's interesting because so many have tried to launch new social media platforms and I remember we we tread Line, and there were several that just they never quite took hold. And this one obviously came out of the gates just screaming yeah we had I mean, you know, in recent memory, obviously Mastered On and Blue Sky they both, you know, they were supposed to be the Twitter killers. They never really turned out to be that way.

This one does have a chance because it's meta, which is funny the irony that, you know, not a lot of people liked meta a couple of years ago with the Cambridge Analytica scandal, and now everyone's like, oh, let's embrace Meta because they have this new alternative to Twitter. So I'm a little scared to have Meta controls such a large swath of the web if it does control Instagram, Facebook, WhatsApp and now this Twitter clone. But you know, people will be the judge. I guess not me. Okay,

so let's talk about to ai that. So there's one main ai chat bot. And now there's another that's coming up. Yeah, I mean there's several. So you've got i mean, obviously everyone knows chat GBT that's become a proprietary eponem for um chatbots. But then of course you have barred from Google. And then you have being ai, which is based on chat GBT, and they're all very you know, similar, They answer questions, they can do different things. You can ask it, you know, to explain

stuff. Now there's a new one from a company named Anthropic, and this is a company that has a lot of backing. They've got a lot of buzz, but they're not as much of a household name as chat GBT San Francisco startup. But they have launched version two of what they call Claude AI, so you can check it out. And I've got to say, Amy, I am very very impressed with it. Like it's it's pretty slick, and they're positioning it as a friendlier chatbot. So what does that mean.

Well, it's more conversational, it's more enthusiasticum they think, they say to think of it as a personal assistant chat GBT. You know, you can ask it really technical things. This is quite impressive, but again same kind of restrictions. It doesn't know today's date. It was trained on Internet data that could be two years old, so you know, it's not fully up to date. I think Google is the only one that's really truly up to

date with the latest information from the web as it is live. Okay, so even if you use this AI, you still have to fact check it. Oh any ai? I mean, it's so interesting to me that these AI chatbots literally will write an amazing thing and then they'll just put one or two facts in there are three or four that are just totally totally off base.

And you know, I can do this as a public person, but I'll just type in, you know, my bio and it'll get like eighty five percent right, And that just literally gets things wrong based on other people's names that are similar, or other people's positions that are similar. And it's really wild because you know that because you're reading your own bio, but when you're looking up information about something else, a topic that you're trying to learn

about, how do you know? And so this is where it gets really tricky with these chatbots, that you just have to really be careful with the information they're putting in there. Okay, here's a quick question. Can you have the chatbot, like like you said, give you information about something you want to learn about. Can you ask the chatbot to fact check itself on Google? It will do that. It will give you some of the links where it came up with stuff. I'm trying to look on this anthropic if

it doesn't really give me the where it came up with the information. But on being it does that as well. So I think we're going to see that be a bigger part of these chatbots. But it also becomes this, you know, I guess it's like citing, like a what do they call us back in school, like a bibliography or citations whatever it is. Footnotes. Yeah, I mean that's what we need because you need to see, you know, cross reference where this information came from. You cannot just copy

and paste this information. It will really burn you in some way, believe me. Okay, and where do we find the the new one? Uh, Claude dot Ai I'll put the link on my website, rich on tech dot tv as well. Just look for the mentioned on radio. Okay, you got it, rich Tomeros, thank you. I wish we had more time to talk because I love here in tech stuff from you. Well, thank you, I appreciate it. There's never enough time in the world,

I know. Right, We'll have a great day. And of course you can listen to rich on Tech right here on K five Saturdays from eleven am to two pm. Also, you can follow Rich on Instagram at rich on Tech. His website is rich on Tech dot TV. Right now, let's say good morning to ABC's Mike Dubusky. Mike, there's a new smartphone company that could be Nothing or is it something? Something from nothing? Think what we've got here today. Yeah, so Nothing is a new smartphone brand,

at least new to the United States. Wait, the brand is Nothing. The brand is Nothing. I feels like we're talking about Seinfeld here. It's about Nothing the uh no? So yeah, no, the brand is called Nothing, Okay. And their phone, their new phone to the United States,

is called the Phone two. So it's the Nothing Phone two. And if you just look at the spec sheet here, it's pretty standard smartphone fair It runs a Snapdragon eight plus Gen one chip, which is not the latest thing, but it's pretty recent and it will be fast enough I think for most people's purposes. It's got two fifty megapixel cameras on the back. It has a six point seven inch screen on the front that goes up to one

hundred and twenty hurts. It's very bright, and frankly, none of that is very interesting because when you flip this phone over, it's completely transparent. You can see through it. It's like the early days of like consumer tech with the iMac that you can look into. And on top of that, you have what nothing calls the glyph interface, which is it's a series of

lights on the back. There are eleven led light strips that are arranged into kind of interesting patterns on the back of this phone, and they can light up and dance around and illuminate depending on how you program to work. So let's say you got a notification from you know, Kfi. For example, you're you know, the bosses a Kfi have sent you a notification. You can program your phone to illuminate with a specific pattern so that you know that

it's them. Or if you have a you know, a notification coming in from your best friend, you can program it to dance around in a different way. That is just one application of this glyph interface. They also have a partnership with Uber, which I think is kind of interesting where the lights will slowly go down depending on how close your car is to arriving. You can also see applications here with things like timers and other things like that.

And Nothing says this is their attempt to get people to cut down on their screen time. Right. We've all been in the position where you pick up your phone because you got a notification from someone, and half an hour later you're you know, knee deep in a Twitter doom scroll. So Nothing says you want to put your phone screen down on the table, but you can

still get some information. You can still know that you have notifications coming in, you can know what those notifications look like, but you won't get lost in your phone. In other words, so it's kind of like custom ring tones, but it's custom light tones. Yeah yeah, And of course this can you know, make noise and vibrate just like any other phone does.

But they say this back, you know, panel, this glyph interface is kind of just a different way to experience notifications that's maybe a little bit more mindful, and they say this is also a means by which to make technology

fun again. Nothing is again a pretty new brand, and they Carl pay who is the CEO of this company, looked around, essentially in his telling at the smartphone market, looked at the iPhone fourteen and the Samsung Galaxys twenty three, which are kind of the big players in the American market, and they kind of look the same. They were just glass sandwiches and you can

get them in a couple of different colors. But like, phones have kind of looked the same for a long time, and you know, in his estimation, it was worth trying something new, trying something a little bit different, and this is what they've come up with. Okay, so you said the back is clear, so you can see the guts of the phone basically you can, Yeah, you can see the charging coil is kind of the

big thing. This is a wirelessly charging phone, so you can put it down in the way they do that as there's a little copper coil of wires in there. So that's kind of the main thing. And they have lights that go around that you can see part of the camera system that kind of appears in the upper left hand corner. There's you can kind of see where the plug goes in if you do want to charge it. With a cord,

and you know that's it's kind of interesting. They call it two point five D, which I think is like one step down from three D because phones are pretty flat as it is. But it is a very unique design. You know, you'll see this thing out in the wild and you'll make a note of it, I think, just because it does look pretty different, you know, not just the lights but the c through design. And

it comes in two colors. It comes in white and sort of a grayish black, so you know, you can kind of customize it in that way as well. They will also, of course sell you a case that is see through, and that's pretty much the size of it. And I think, you know, it's worth kind of putting this into context, right, This phone is six hundred dollars. It's the same price as Google's Pixel seven

phone. It's two hundred dollars cheaper than an iPhone fourteen, two hundred dollars cheaper than a Samsung Galaxys twenty three, So it kind of undercuts those phones on price. But one plus or excuse me, but nothing this new brand. I don't think it's trying to challenge the Samsungs and the Googles and the Apples of the world. When it comes to you know, sales numbers.

Right, Apple and Samsung, they dominate the American smartphone market. It's really tough for new players, even big names like Google, to break into that duopoli. But it does allow Nothing the opportunity to sort of play around with different form factors, to sort of experiment with things that obviously Apple would not want to do to the iPhone, right to alienate their scores of buyers.

Nothing can you know, has a little bit more nimbleness to it, And that's important because you can imagine the executives at Apple and Samsung and Google will be watching what this kind of upstart company does, maybe integrate some of those features into their later phones. So if you want to see what's on the iPhone, you know, seventeen, you might want to pay attention to what Nothing is doing now. And I would imagine this would be big with kids,

Yeah, possibly, I think. I mean, you know, obviously you would have to make your decision as a parent whether you want to spend six hundred dollars on a phone for a child. But you know, a lot of kids because they're coming up, you know, they get iPhones and if that is an eight hundred dollars proposition, now, yeah, you can imagine that this is something that would be attractive at least on price alone, and the sort of notification component of it. You can see an application in

the car. Maybe instead of getting a notification that you have to sit and read while you're driving, well your phone can just light up and you know that you have a notification in the background that you need to attend to later. But again you won't get sucked into your phone and that you know, as a parent of a teen who's maybe starting driving, you can see why that would be attractive. So yeah, that is kind of is certainly something

that could be appealing to people. What from Nothing's point of view, they seem to be targeting people who are like into smartphones. Carl pay who again is the CEO, used to run a company called one plus, and while again they were not huge sales leaders in the United States, they did garner this sort of cult following. The company had a very close relationship with its fans. A lot of fan suggestions eventually made it into future phones. It

seems like Nothing is kind of trying the same strategy here. So this is a smartphone, at least from my perspective for people who are into smartphones. It's for smartphone enthusiasts, okay. And is it available now? It is available for pre order now. It will go on sale July seventeenth next week against six hundred dollars. And it works with Verizon AT and T T Mobile. But important to note you can't go into any of those stores. Can't go into a T Mobile store for example. And one of these things,

where do you get it? You have to buy it online. You don't know carry your partnership yet. It's not like on Amazon or anything like you have to go to nothing dot com or do you know you may be able to buy it on Amazon. I'm not sure. But there Essentially, what I mean to say there is that there is no carrier partnership. The brand

is a little too young to do that. We might have to wait for the Phone three or the Phone four in order to see, you know, a carrier partnership like that where you can just walk into a carrier provider store and get a deal on one of these things. We're not quite there yet with Nothing, Okay, phone still confuse because I'm like, well, what do I get the phone, and then what do I do? But if you don't have the brand carrier, then how do you get at and t

on it? Uh? Well, I think you can call up your carrier or switch out your SIM card. That's often what I think. You know, I bought my I have a Google Pixel seven full disclosure, and I switched out my SIM card from an old one plus phone, which I then switched out from an iPhone before that. So um, yeah, it's it's pretty pretty easy. You just gotta, you know, keep track of your SIM card. You are obviously much more tech savvy than I am. So

okay, great, so but nothing phone two, phone two. Yeah, And every time you talk about it and you say, well, nothing does this and nothing does this, I'm just I just I'm not cracking up just a little bit because it's so funny to hear. It's really hard to keep it all straight in your mind. Yeah, it's kind of like talking about Seinfeld. It's the exactly all right. Mike Dubuski, thanks so much for taking some time with us this morning. Do you want to check out Nothing?

You can pre order the phone two now? Does sound kind of fun? We lead Local live from the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. I'm Amy King. This has been your wake up call. You've been listening to wake up call? You know you can always listen live on kf I Am six forty weekdays from five to six am, and anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app

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