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It's just like it's been fun to do silly little like oh no, like a little mini plays in my kitchen when the baby sleep, taking a little breaks from work with just you know, I forgot I have dance moves. I am a good dancer. I am and so I've been doing a little dudle dance sixtoks. But like I was, ship, I gotta like that. I still I have a TikTok account. I've been like I've been flirting with the idea of like just posting up versus like like everything that a

little bit too fun. It's just like I don't know why. It's like I think I just need to go ahead and do it. I think I've been getting too carried away about one of those round white light things and it's like it's a pain in the ask to set up. I'm like, man, no, no, I should be blurry as hill like it's not it's really not that so all like that. So well. I well, speaking of breaks, I took a little break this past weekend. I went on a little vac down to Florida just you know, hung

out some people's and watched the Super Bowl. Did you get to see the Super Bowl? I literally so. One of my fellow commissioners shoutouts to Russell Edwards texted me in the just like out of the blue, he said, Fitty, and I was like, what is he talking about? Um? I assumed it was football related because I had had to get off Twitter that night because all everybody's time was football. It was like I don't I don't sport. I don't do it. But then he was like, yeah,

you've missed the halftime show. It's like Kendrick and Dr Dre. And I was like, well, it was the first ever all hip hop headline super Bowl halftime show, so I saw it was pretty cool, you know, I mean it was like a bunch of legacies. It was all legacy acts. You know. You had Snoop, Dr Dre, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, like you said, the cameo by fifty and then we had Anderson Pack in the bags playing the drums. I

was pretty cute. Was his little thing caught me. It was like, you know when he was doing um I and he was like and we hey, yeah, I want to kill us dad in the Street Bump show. I was like, what did you hear about the Okay? So there was some dust up before, right at least for as much, you know, as reliably as you could go

on like Twitter stories and Twitter drama and stuff. But so the word was a couple of hours before the Super Bowl that and Eminem had planned to kneel and that the NFL had told him, you know, explicitly, you know, you can't do that. And then Dr Dre wanted to split the line, still not loving police and still Dre and the NFL told him that you couldn't do that, and both things happened. So that was so Kendrick was

the one that kind of like bowed to that. I don't want to say he bowed but you know, I mean em and EV and DR to be honest with you, like that was like while because I had been I was, you know, reading ship on Twitter while the game was going on, so I was like letting everybody I was in the room with know about that whole thing. So when we were actually watching the halftime performance and Eminem Neil, that was like the biggest pop or reaction that anybody

that the whole game got. You know, we were like the NFL later on declared that they knew that Eminem was gonna do it and stuff like that. I don't know about that. I'm just gonna imagine the Eminem just said fuck y'all or said I don't give a fucking yeah, that's cool. And you know, two things come to mind. For one, you know that at first it's like, well they had like cops feel in districts with people like two summers ago whatever, like to kneel these days has

become such a watered down act. But when you also consider the context of within the NFL as well as like what Colin Kaepernick has gone on to do with like creating you know, Kaepernick Publishing, and now they're putting out all this like radical, you know, like black feminist

and like abolitionist like writings and essays and stuff. It's like, you know, if you're drawing attention back to him in the context in which he was sort of radicalized and like marginalized politically at first, which then caused him to game this larger political platform. It's a pretty dope thing.

I appreciate he did that. I appreciate eminem give a shine to the you know, like yeah, and I mean in this day and age, when you've got like massive media figures like given motherfucker's the green light to say the N word and ship, I'll take a superficial kneeling gesture. You know, I'm not mad at that. Let's not yeah at all. But speaking of the NFL, guess that's a

good idea. It wasn't even planned in that look at that freestyle in the show, But that's a good transition because today what we're going to talk about is these uh class action lawsuit that's been taken against the NFL by the former Miami Dolphins head coach Brian Flores. So just to give you a little recap of it, So Black History Month kicked off this year with a lawsuit from Brian Flores. He was suing the NFL and three of his teams for alleged patterns of racist hiring practices

by the league and racial discrimination. In this class action lawsuit, the teams involved where the Miami Dolphins, the Denver Broncos, and the New York Giants. Now there's just one active African American coach in the NFL going into next season, and that's Mike Tomlin of the Pittsburgh Steelers. UM. Six of the nine vacancies leading into this hiring cycle where all they all went to white men, and the two of the final three openings went to a first cast

of candidates. So the Texans hired Levy Smith, who's a veteran coach any black man, and the Dolphins hired Mike McDaniel, who is multiracial. UM. But both of those hirings came after Flores issued his lawsuit. So we are I mean, just your before because you know I'm gonna get your thoughts. Oh no, let's hit the jump, because I got all right, we're gonna be We're gonna be back with that and more after the jump. But we're gonna try to for two. I'm not necessarily a sports ball sports person, but I

do like basketball. Football is not really my thing. So for two football novices are going to try to see if we can dig into this topic or after the jump, all right, we are back. So if you're just joining us, re rhyin the goddamn podcast and find out what we're talking about. Mariah, So what are your initial thoughts on the situation before we get into some of these facts.

So the the facts arising about this lawsuit and the change that it has already spurred brings me back to in my work kind of like um, contemplating the value of lawsuits generally, because there's a lot of things that the city attorneys like plead with us not to do. That sometimes we will do anyway, because even if we get suited, it raises an important issue. And even through threats of legal action, you can force people. On the other hand, you can through that's a legal action, you

can get people to do all kinds of things. So, um thing about Yeah, like in the terrain of organizing all the tools we have at our disposal, getting folks elected,

marching the streets, colony of the congressman, filing lawsuits. I think this this Um, this juncture here kind of underscores the importance of also like using the law against the system, where it's like, yeah, I mean, I don't know if he's gonna win this lawsuit, but already they hired like two black, you know, diverse um football coaches and so like there you go. Well, I mean even some of that might be a little I mean, we'll we'll get into you know, some of the history of of the

NFL's coach hiring in a little bit. But even some of that might not even be adequate with not certainly not yes, yeah, not at all to say that whatsoever. But it's interesting what you can get them to do,

like to start nudging them in the right direction. And like so like, um, for someone who like I mean you're out of all the people who I know in my life, you're like probably like one of the few people who I know personally that it's like, oh, this like Marie on some revolutionary ships, you know what I'm saying, Like, like she's actually out there like like doing the work

and stuff. So for someone like you, who I consider her to be or or like more on the revolutionary tip, is there any sort of is there any sort of like paradox created by like using the system to fight the system. I mean, I think we have to. I mean, there's arguments on either side. He looked. There's a lot of people out here that are like, we have organized totally separate from the state. We gotta do mutual aid, we gotta like, you know, build up for the revolution

whatever whatever. You got people in the middle that see that, you know, have a more militant vent or like, oh, let's march in the street and get our asked bet by the cop and you know, dota at it up. And then you got folks that like fully just focus on what you can do within the system, etcetera. And I've seen in my time a tendency among organizers to like be purists about their way of doing things. And I get it. You you know, you commit your heart

to something because you think it's the right thing. But like I try and my work try to like not prescribe what is the best way to do it. I've seen, you know, I've advocated for getting people elected and then I've been elected and seen that like it is somewhat limiting and um, ETCeteras. I've seen organizations that are like trying to like do abolitionist work outside of like the state, Like, oh,

we don't even wanted to fund the police. We're going to create our whole own like systems of safety and accountability. And then they won't like they can't get any money to do it because it's all it's all like state grants or whatever, and so they're hampered because they don't have any money. So I'm just all for a directory of tactics whatever, you know, just like I'm not gonna tell you what you should and shouldn't do. I'm not gonna be like, oh, following the lawsuit doesn't really changed it.

Like you and our kids out here with your you know, super kitchen, Like do your change? Do you think like it's none of my business what y'all up to, Like the same sort of thing that we're just saying about

Eminem and the kneeling. It's like at this point, like any gesture helps, you know, So right, if it's gonna like get someone to like google calling Kaepernick again like I was saying in the intro, and then they're like, oh, he started a publishing company and they stumble upon like essays by Derek Parnell or whatever, Like that's kind of cool. And I mean anybody anybody who wants to like point towards like another like lane of attacks that's different from

a lawsuit. Then by all means you know what I'm saying, like point it out or go do it, you know, but like don't hate on anybody else's trategy. And there's already there's already precedent in you know, going back to once again where um basketball players started striking and like refusing to play right, and so there's a labor organizing tactic have been having been used in sports. Now we're trying out lawsuits like who knows, who knows what's next.

I'm excited to see, like if people are really serious about this and they don't just sort of succumb to meager, succome to meager like like oh, you know headpaths as as you know, solutions and justice. I don't know, let's see you let's see what they try next. I don't know. So I'm sorry, I heard you all. Now you're doing okay. So per NFL dot Com, only five of the last

thirty six head coaching openings gone to black men. This is an unacceptable quote unquote reality as said by the NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, who acknowledged that who acknowledged those four days after the league had said of Flores's claims were without merit. Now, Goodell was asked about the discrepancy between the two comments, and he said, it's a good question, which I've asked our office. He's a it's a good question which in our office, and we've talked about it.

I think the initial reaction was regarding the legal claims themselves and not really what we would say the experience of what coach Flores was going through. And that's what and that's what the most colorful, flavorful word salad I've ever seen. And that's what and then he Goodal continues, and that's what I'm more interested in. I put the legal claims in the legal process to the side, and that will be handled by lawyers. To me, it's more

important for us to lawyers. Goodell, who's for me, It's more important people you hired to sort of listen to Flora's and understand what he and other coaches are going through. I'm sorry, just wanted to get the brazen contradiction. So let's and I mean, yeah, just just Florid, just before you let the commissioner have it. Let's just let's just go through some of the facts about the NFL right

now in this particular issue. So the workforce, which by this you know what we're going to say, the players of the workforce. Obviously there's way more people that go into making a team a team, YadA, YadA. But of the players, the player workforce sev black. The assistant coaches who that is drawn from the players that's black. Then currently we have two black head coaches. I only say too black because the third guy is listed as multiracial and not as black. So we have two black head

coaches and zero black owners and there are thirty two teams. Mariah. So look the fact you brought up an interesting point to start with the black player who work force, because um, I am curious because this is even this suit is even brought about by like the mid tier person, right, like a like a t like a what Brian Flores was a head coach. He was a head coach this past he was a head coach, right, So he's not a team owner. He's not like a shareholder or something.

He's like kind of like a middle management from in the grand. In the grand, the coaches are management, but they're definitely in this for in terms of this discussion their labor, their labor right right. They don't run the internet, they don't own the team you have steaks in it or anything like that. I think this is very echoes in many ways what we see sometimes and like like

larger labor organizing movements. Okay, take for example, what's going on with Starbucks right now, Like you know, the first Starbucks unionized in December, like ever since then, like a thousand workers at Starbucks across the country have filed for having union elections. It's like the what the the wild fiery is the spreading is like labor movement in recent history, right, But you think about the kinds of peoples that Starbucks wants to hire to manage their image is like very

like forward thinking liberal kind of thing. They're hiring a lot of like college grads. They're calling on a lot of artists, a lot of people that you know, identify with like the Black Lives Matter movement. So these aren't the like I mean, this is not I'm not too like paying you know, a blanket picture of everything. I'm sure there's a lot of diversity in their workforce. But you know this, this isn't like the like the hood nigga's got out of jail that's going to work at

the poultry plant. And like you know, the blue who who we typically associate with blue collar folks there's tend to be more educated, etcetera, etcetera. And so those are the folks that like will advocate for getting there's more so than the folks at the real about like the bottom bottom like that really needs like ship so that like I don't know what the role of the players is and all this especially and we're not even talking about the folks that you know, clean the clean, the clean,

the clean, cheerleaders, cheerleaders, mopping the locker room floor. I think so those people are completely left out of the conversation. And someone who's like in the middle, like you know, like you know, has a sense of more has slightly more privileged than other folks is the one that's coming for their well. I think that's what makes conversations like

this heart. I think that the reason why it's like hard for like these sort of like topics too kind of blow up as being a large labor issues because ultimately, you know, Brian floor has just got paid like three million dollars for the season, you know, I mean, ultimately we're talking about rich trying to get more are of

theirs at the at the end of the day. So we have to take the conversation with that prism or that grain in salt or whatever that you know, it's rich people arguing about themselves, even though there is like a further you know, racial and economic divide that you

can dig into it. But I want to be clear though that like true, like economic transformation of this country is going to require people like Brian Flores to see themselves as more like the black player workforce and the janitors mopping the locker room, to realize he's more like them than the people that really run ship well in his in his and I don't even know if this is a defense because you weren't attacking him, but something that aspect of football that you might not know if

you don't like watch it or if you don't know like the inner workings of it. This is a huge sacrifice for him, Like he's most likely ever going to coach again, you know what I'm saying, That's what I'm talking about, Yes, we're gonna need people like that to be willing to sacrifice a little bit in order for even them get justice, but also the people below them, you know, so like a lot of people everyone thinks they're like, what's it like temporarily embarrassed billionaires or whatever,

especially middle class folks who think they are like you know, or like even upper middle class folks who, let's say, like Brian Flores, who think they're closer to like Jeff Bezos than they are to homelessness. But if this is true, if he loses this lawsuit, can't ever coach again, Like his life could take a significant turn for the worst, and that he's actually closer to the folks at the bottom than he is someone like whoever, like the CEO

of the NFL, I don't even know. That's the thing, Like he's he's doing this for future generations, Like he's not going to coach in the even if they win, even if he wins the lawsuit, he's never going to coach again, Like they're they're they're not, I mean, And and through this there's been there's been a lot of there's a lot of like there's aspect of the story that's very very much football Insider football ship that we're not a sports show, so it's like it's not really

you know, I'm not really interested in covering up, but like you know, the aspects of like them asking him to throw games and to tank his team and things like that, that yeah, he's suing on those grounds. But if like this lawsuit is successful and it ends up being the end result is that there's more black coaches and there's more U coaches of color, that's all gonna be dope. But on his account, like that's what he's doing it for, because he's not going to be one

of those coaches. The next thing I want to say is that having more black coaches is cool, but that's still management, that's still reinforcing the idea that like we need more black CEOs and like black business owners to like get free when like at the end of the day, like the people not on the floor are still going

to be on food stamps or whatever. Like just I guess in the culture of American football though, is like black people and this is this is my general sense again as somebody who football is not my favorite sport, but like black people in football are very much considered like workhorses and like laborers. They're not really considered thinkers,

you know what I'm saying. So the aspects, the aspects of aspects of football that are like cerebral and require thinking and study and watching tape and stuff like that, these white billionaire owners don't trust black men in those positions, you know, I'm saying, like quarterbacks. You know, there was for the longest time there was a stigma about black black men camp quarterbacks. Black black still make good quarterbacks.

That's kind of been shattered now. But even in shattering that, like a lot of those a lot of those stigma still persis us, you know what I'm saying. And I don't think that anything like this is really going to change until the ownership changes. But then again, like I said, it's like your that argument is an argument for you know, we need more black billionaires, you know what I mean.

I mean, if the ownership changes, you put more black people in charge, and they are more um understanding of the various kinds of like skill and labor and intelligence that people are putting into all of these positions. Even if you say, oh, like you know, the players aren't smart,

they're just buff and and like strong or whatever. It's like, well, it takes a certain kind of like what you could call like bodily intelligence to know how to like do a little swivel pirouette around some dude when you're trying to tackle you, or like line like you know, line the football up and kick it straight through the like that.

Those that's like very like complicated and underappreciated, like thinking that has to be done in order to do that, and so like they are very intelligent and someone who if you get a black coach in place, you might you might find somebody who like sees at and recognize it's like, you know, maybe we need more equity, etcetera. But it's just but it's not it's not something you can just assume. You know, I'm not all skin folks, kin folk, etcetera. So it's not something you just like

as will get better. Is like an insult to injury in this whole thing. Whereas like you know what, what uh group of people actually do end up having positions as head coaches in the NFL, people whose fathers were coaches in the NFL. So they've got a bit of a nepotism issue going on within their ranks as well. That only exacerbates the racial issue. But let's get back into some of these facts. So, Fritz Pollard, I don't

know if I'm pronouncing that right. Fritz Pollard. Yeah, Fritz Pollard broke the coaching color barrier back in ninete man. The early days was an interesting time for naming your children. I mean, my kid's name may stop Fritz Pollard. But it took. It took an additional sixty eight years before Art Shell became the second black man to lead a team. So, I don't know how many of you all out there are familiar with something called the Rooney Rule. Are you

familiar with the Rooney rule at all? In terms of football r I have never heard of that game. Okay, So the Rooney rule was developed in two thousand three, two thousand two. So it is the National Football League policy that requires league teams to interview ethnic minority candidate for head coaching and senior football operation job. It is an example of affirmative action, even though there was no hiring quota or hiring preference given minorities. It's only an

interviewing quota. It was created in two as it was created as a reaction to the two thousand two firings of head coach Tony Dungee of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Dennis Green of the Minnesota Vikings, but with black at the time when Dungee had a winning record and Green had just had his first losing season in ten years.

Shortly afterwards, US civil rights attorney Cyrus Marie and Johnny Cochrane released a study showing black head coaches, despite winning at a higher percentage of games, were less likely to be hired and more likely to be fired than their white counterparts. Former NFL players Kelly Kellyn, will Wilson, and John Wotton. Oh Sorry, Former NFL players Kellen Winslow and John Wotton then put together an infinity group of minority scouts, coaches,

and front office personnelity to advocate for rules creation. Its purpose was to ensure that minority coaches, especially African Americans, would be considered for high level coaching positions. Now dig this. At the time that the Rooney Rule was installed, there were four black head coaches in the NFL, and they aim that to be a problem that they created the Ruoney Rule. In two before this lawsuit, there was one head coach, one black head coach. Oh my god. So

clearly this is operating brilliantly. So we've regressed the rule obviously didn't work. Thoughts on that love that for us? Well, I mean, first of all, I think it's really cool that they did have sort of like a collective organizing project of getting together the scouts, these front office personnel to make a demand, you know, to like ask them to make things better. But I mean, ultimately it does

seem like it was a superficially measure. I don't mean, I don't I don't mean to cut you off, but there's some context I need to give you about black Brian Flowers his lawsuit all right, Okay, So one of the things that he's that he alleges in his lawsuit is that the Rooney rule is like a sham and

it's a charade. Like they do. They do like the whole, you know, the whole, the whole, all the tricks, the smoking mirrors, and they do these interviews, but at the end of the day, they don't have any intention of hiring these black closers are the diverse coaches that they're seeing, so they're not even coming into the interview process with a fair shake. One of the things. One of the examples was, so, you know you've heard the famous coach

Bill Belichick. You've heard that name. Okay, So, Brian Flores was an assistant coach, I believe, underneath Bill Belichick. So when uh, Brian Flores and another coach who also was an assistant under Bill Belichick, they were both vuying for the same job, and Bill Belichick hit up Brian Flores congratulating him for the job. Yeah, I thought he was texting the other dude. I did hear about like four or five days before it was announced that other dude

got the job. Bro, what people trying to say, Oh, the coaches are smarter to so much strategy and the players are dumb, But like that's dumb, so so in other in other words, they knew they were going to give the job to the white guy, and they had already spread that, that word had already gone through to the people who needed to know, and they accidentally and and you know, I don't know how much involvement, but I'm not trying to pay Bill Bill Belichick is a

bad guy or anything like that. But Bill Belichick accidentally hit up the black guy to be like, hey, congratulations on getting the job that he was getting ready to go interview for and it was already given to somebody else before he even did his interview, like behind the scenes, so he was about to go interview and they had already picked someone else. I mean, you know, the the I don't want to be the one to like, you know, be like, oh man, there needs to be more black owners.

But at the end of the day, in this particular situation, with this particular problem, if we're you know, we're we're we've got to overlook We've got to overlook the you know a lot of other things to focus on this aspect of the airs and coaches and ownership and stuff like that. Like you said, there's a lot of people on the lower rung who aren't even being mentioned in

this labor dispute. But but yeah, I mean I think that like it comes back to the fundamental question of like does representation equaliberation, because I think getting black coaches in there might give us the opportunity for them to like see the value of the lower folks see the value and the players see you know, how to be culturally responsive and implement some of that into their coaching, but they might get some black coaches in there that are like, Yo, I've got my bag, fuck y'all, and

not do anything to help advance the conditions in the league. And so I mean, yes, it's better to have black owners, I guess, but that does not ensure that we are implementing fairer policies for everyone else involved. They could also just kind of reproduce the current situation that all of

them are experiencing. When you're gonna like this next part, because leaders of the n double a c P, the National Coalition on Black Civic Participation, the National Action Network, and the now No African American Clergy Network have requested to meet with the league's commissioner, Roger Goodell, and the leaders have called on Goodell to replace the existing rule and for the league to examine the specific recruiting and hiring procedures when it comes to its executive and coaching positions.

The group also called for meaningful consequences for teams that do not abide by the rules. Their statement says, however well intentioned, the effect the Rooney rule has been for team decision makers to regard interviewer interviews with candidates of color or interviews with candidates of color as an extraneous step rather than an integral part of the hiring process. I see this all the time in city contracts where we can't per state law, like tell them we can't

buy state law. Tell them that, like they have to hire a certain number of minorities, are paying in a certain kind of wage, so we can ask them nicely to put in a good faith effort to do so. And so recently this cat called me up talking about how, you know, for this big arena project here, um we had we had like put in a contract and they needed to put in a good faith effort to hire

minority contractors. And his friend they called him up like yo, I went to there like recruiting luncheon or something, and there was literally just a whole bunch of white people the only black person there, and like, I don't are they going to follow up with him? Like you know, really they just you know check the box of like,

oh we tried, and there's no accountability. So I do think, you know, beefing up the Rooney rule by like saying they have to actually hire a certain amount of people like makes a lot more sense than just like asking them to put in a good faith effort when really it ends up being a superficial effort to recruit people for these positions and take you know, take them seriously

as candidates. And I mean, and then the owners, Like I'd like that part about making them, you know, making some some penalties if they don't do it or if they violate ship. But it's like, what can what penalties can you do? I mean, there's only thirty three of these positions, these owner positions in the world, you know what I'm saying, Like, I mean, and we just got to consider like the NFL is like a money making

cultural phenomenon of entity and ship like that. There's only thirty three, thirty two of these owner positions and every last person who has the position is a billionaire. So it's like, what are you you know, at the end of the day, they're gonna put their fucking boys in and if there's any rule that they have to break, you know what I'm saying, Like, short of one of these guys getting in like some serious like legal trouble that you know, you can't take the team away from

them as their team. So and this is why we should take the teams away from them and COLLECTIVI the NFL sees the means of production. Let the owners be the workers, be the folks out there quarterback in and kicking and putting the thing through the thing and stop in the locker room. Just collective ownership and management, no more. Ray is um utopia would be great. Let's go get that. Brian Flors be the leader. We got a Al sharpon quote.

So UM. The National Action Network, their founder Al Sharpton said the organization will be approaching states and municipalities to stop public funding and tax incentives to NFFL stadiums until the goals presented by the leaders are met. So well, we should do that anyway, I mean, like, why are we publicly funding like arenas that are making these billionaires billions of dollars. But in a nutshell, you know, it

doesn't look good. And and shout out to Brian Flores for shining the spotlight almost especially in Black History Month. I can't help but think that that was done on purpose. Is um. Yeah, there's a lot of stud stud and bucking. Oh god, yeah, there's so much of that. The workhorse and like he's a you know, like you know, he's

a bru. I mean, okay, it's it's not like slavery slavery, but like conservatives, hey, when you make the slavery in NFL comparisons, and let's be clear, look, yo, no one is making a literal comparison of chattel slavery in the NFL, so please, it's an analogy. It is an analogy. I'm not trying to say that it is actual slavery because these people are making millions, but like yeah, yeah, I mean that and and that's that's that's where you know, if you're getting paid, you're not a slavery. I mean,

the comparisons are fair to make if they're there. I mean, I've I've heard I've seen some foot like pro football players and pro basketball players like talking, and the one dude was like, yo, man, the in the NFL, the relationship that the players have with the owner is kind of like some slavery ship. It's like it's the it's the most it's the furthest removed from the owner that you is in the NFL, you know what I'm saying. Where it's like really they're up there and you're down here.

Catch the ball, nigger, run you know, it's like like you don't really interact with him at all, so he's like it really does end up kind of feeling like you're fucking buck out there on an auction block. And then you know whether it's coincidence or not. You look at the combines when they're testing out the new recruits and the people who are going to be drafted and ship like that. It does. Yeah, I know, the imagery is definitely slavy. I mean, can we can we can

we at least say that? I mean, can we at least on that? Yeah, I mean I don't appreciate when like liberals trying to hyperpoleize issues, but like there is a certain way in which it reproduces the social structures of slavery, and that there's like physical labor that's like being like commodified to make somebody a billionaire. And then these folks get get out and then she'd like c t E and then like die earlier, like have mental illness later in their lives, so their body are just

having the labor wrung out of them and then they're discarded. Oh, speaking of Peel, did you did you see the Jordan Peel? Do you see the trailer for his new joint. It's called Nope what no what it looks It's like it looks like Signs with Black People, which I'm I'm with it. I'm with it. Let's just yeah, let's make remake all the Grades with Black People. Needs to He needs to start with the titles though, like, oh, what, come on

what You're gonna need to get some regular titles? Though, no more, no more us and Nope, you know I don't just get I don't like the one word titles. Signs is one word. I mean, like like, I don't like that title either. Come on, give me a title. I'm not I'm not making any m night exceptions. Canny man is candy man is two words. I like that. Yeah, Kenny man is two words. It's at least two syllables. What you know what I'm saying? This is the hill you're gonna die on? Really anyway, that is what we

got for the day. Um do you want to wrap? Yeah? All right, yo, Taylor Joel, I can't see through the glass. I don't know which one of y'all is, but somebody give me a beat please? Yeah? Uh waiting, no reparations, waiting, no reparations, lava. Frank can tell them the black of the bevery, the sweet at the quarterback, and but when it comes to the coaches, the blackness and sort of lacking.

And it's sort of battling because there'll be a lot of athletes who could be the funding things that said they placed in the back seat all across the country. The workers organizing we're talking to taxis you at the end of having to come from feeling timely? Bryan flower As, get your shine, be get your Shane be hit up with the class action doing it for the culture. Like the last Bassip. The Rooney rule was cool, but it lacks traction. Only one black coach got a brother back then.

You gotta keep fighting because it ain't over. Gonna put pressure on the stakeholders because they in the owner's box feeling like a slave owner and they're really scared of the revolution. Take ova Dope. Hey, I'm dope knife And you have been listening to Waiting on Reparations, mofo, have a good week. See you next time. Listen to Waiting on Reparations on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.