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I'm only Hugh Man. Saw you with the cipher and your crew ran. They all went right like Chappelle New fans, Yo, yo, what's up? What's happening everybody? How you doing? I'm good? And Franco oh, yes, I forgot about that. I'm dope, knife a reparation. We are waiting on reparations and we would like you too, Yeah please, yeah, what's good? Nothing yet? I've been getting ready for this show that I'm getting

ready to do. We got this album. There's this record store, slash record label and Savannah called grave Face and they're having like a twelve year thing. So I'm slate at to perform with a couple of other cool casts going down on Saturday. But I'm really trying to be, you know, a real, real official with it. So I think have been like rehearsing and ship. You know, that's great, get my set down nice and tight for it. But that's it's other than that's the same. Well, you know how

you doing. I'm good, I'm good. I don't rehearse anymore. I don't have any shows coming up. I don't only you know, I mean, you're doing, You're doing important things, but you're gonna get back on there, so no sooner or later. I got showing Atlanta December might playing like an Athens Pride and I know him by but yeah, things are good. Um. Today I fucking met this guy

named Rafael Warnock. Apparently he's the black senator from the state of Georgia, and you know what, you know what, he's very chill dude, very chill dude, UM, very laid back. We talked about like the fucking quote unquote labor shortage, and he had like he was like pretty funny about that. I mean it was like labor shortage. I mean we all know that first of all, Um, seven thousand of those workers didn't come back because they died, and then

a lot a lot of the rest of us. Uh, it's like get a job that pays you twelve hundred bucks a month and then for childcare because you're no longer at home to watch your children or do not have a job. So a lot of people chose that. It was like pretty straight up about the whole you know, like, why is this quote unquot labor shortage happening? Um? Really it's a it's really it's a living way to job shortage.

That's why nikes ain't going back to work. John a little bit about that I heard, but yeah, it was like very just like funny and show. Oh. I mean so like what was he there for? Just to meet people? It seems like, you know, he's thinking about re election uhwo like tomorrow practically, and so he's like come into touch base with the folks. Um and uh yeah, so asapasta, how's everything looking in the district? House? House things looking

for him? For you out here? Man, it's bad. Not Like as soon as I left the meeting, somebody called me. I was like, Hey, these people in your district just got their house shot off last week. What we're gonna do about it? And so we're meeting on Friday, Like they were like, oh, you want more constant patrol, which is cool. I'm gonna email them, you know, police sergeant guy for our area tomorrow. I let them know because if that's what the people wh want, that's what the

people get. But we're also gonna be on Friday to be like also and or instead, let's try this because I've been like researching this program that they do a lot of other cities called Cure Violence, where they just like hired like gangstass niggas to like just go to the gangs and be like, please don't shoot each other and not like in a but like like nigga understand,

like why are you killing each other? But I fucking get it, Like you don't, like you can do something like you you can have a better life than this and you can resolve your conflicts without this. And it's been working with a lot of places. I would hope that happens like more often and outside of the context

of like a organization having to put it together. It seems like back in the day, like o Gez used to do that a lot more just on general principle, like, oh man, I can't have these young shooting each other, like I'm I'm the O G I gotta like, I can't participate in that ship. I gotta like, you know, well, here's the thing. Yeah, a lot of people do it

in their spare time because they're just humanitarians. But like they're walking six hours a week at the fucking plant or whatever they're you know, what if they could do this as a career, like we're like their whole job forty hours a week, fucking gang niggas don't shoot each other. I think about half a feeling that would be. So it's like there's definitely a lot of people qualified to

do it. Yeah. Yeah, So it's like a very in my in my view, a very specialized skill set of like knowing the streets, having been there yourself, you know, and learning these other like very empirically based like ways of you know, volve in conflict and like you know, changing community norms around conflict and ship. But it's what we've been doing this whole time. It's just that people

do it electively. The people just do it out of the goodness of their hearts and then they got to go work two jobs, three jobs in order to like keep their kids out the streets to pay for you know, the basketball program because the kids don't get caught up in the ship. So I mean it's all part of the you know, the cycle's like, yeah, we all have so much of our own ship that we have to worry about the like we can't focus on like these giant backro problems that ship. Right, I work with this

cat named Darius. Shout out to Darius, um save the us. We bought a bus this summer to take kids to like programs and ship. And Darius has been in jail. There's like probably moved way back in the day. There is might a shot someone. I don't know why Darius d but when he brings the kids out to the car wash where the people come get the car wash, the kids make a little bit of money and it's like a healthy place with the kids to be after school.

The kids love that Darius wasn't jail once. The kids like look up to him so much because he was in jail. Ones and you look up to him because he's like, y'all don't want to do that. Y'all don't want to be me Like, they ain't gonna listen to a Nike that's never been there. They're not gonna listen to somebody that don't really know, but they listen to

there is because there's has been to jail. And so it's like that fundamental model of like you have to have been there to know, and we should pay people with that that skill set and that expertise to do the work of disrupting the violence in the community. Anyway. People getting shot around ship man, I mean, I mean we're getting shot around here too. Yeah. We ain't got

anohing on Savannah probably No. I mean, yo, there's like some next level warfare ship going on, and this, I mean they're like like, motherfucker's just coming across motherfuckers, this coming from different states up in here. It's a start ship. It's pretty bad. Um, But what do we got for the show today? We're gonna be doing fresh back from

attorney to leave somewhat. Um. We there's so much has been happening that we haven't got the chance to talk about in like a fresh way in terms of just like keeping up with the ongoing happenings around the country. So we're gonna have a news episode. We look at the news, we go talk a little bit about the baby, talk a little bit about meek Mill, squid games, a little bit of abortion ban or lack thereof, Thank you Supreme Court. You know, just a little bit of everything. Today.

We're gonna talk about some Dave Chappelle comedy special enough. Yeah, we will be back with that and more after the job. All right, all right, ladies and gentlemen, we are back in the house. So what do we got first for the people today? So, as you may know, the Justice Department filed it's lawsuit against Texas last month for for but they alleged with an unconstitutional ban on abortion at six weeks UM no carve out conclusions for incests, rape

or sexual assault of any kind. For the dresser Department argue that this Senate bill sent A Bill eight was unconstitutional because it violated the supremacy clause as well as the equal protection afforded under the Fourteenth Amendment. And it also um they said, violated uh U s Supreme Court

President um. And then this week, in a one page ruling, US disc Court Judge Robert Pittman said that from the moment uh SPA went to effect women have been unlawfully prevented from exercise and control over their lives and ways that are protected by the Constitution. Um. I'm gonna jumping into the article real quick to add a little bit of a little bit of Now, this is one of those ones that happened when you were on your break that like, I definitely want to get your thoughts off.

I mean, it's one of those sort of things that was like I kind of already know what you think about it, but well you know about it. Here about it. I'm sorry. What I want to hear what you think about Yeah, I want to think about it is abortion will always be saying some legal for rich women, rich people, I should say, um. And so really for me, this is like this is like such a fundamentally working class issue. Um.

It's it disproportionately and almost in a targeted way. UM seeks to like oppress for women of color, poor people of color, who can't travel, who can't jump on a plane and go to California and get an abortion. So it's like not just like oh, you hate women like you specifically hate poor people that seek abortions. UM, And so looking at it, you know from actually like okay, from like a class perspective, like it's kind of like a class struble issue. But interestingly UM as an aside.

I've been reading this book called Freedom Dreams. It's talking about like the black radical tradition throughout history, and like talked about different people talked about how the black feminist movement um as a in part because the influence of the Nation of Islam, Like there's a lot of pushback against like the white feminists call for, like you know, abortion on demand because it was seen as like a form of population control in the black community. It's a

form of like genocide. I think you still hear a lot of those talking points repeated to day um, but those are the people that are seeking to control maybe keep his party there. Dont those you know, Black women are the kinds of people you hear on Fox News that they don't want to reproduce, like oh, we're gonna be overtaken, Oh the great replacement theory, Like you can

say all day, Oh, it's population controls genocide. It was like, well, it's every single person's decision for themselves, and this is what they you know, they they're they're trying to oppress you about banning these things. This is not anything for

our benefit was whatever. I mean, this is all like part of an ongoing Texas project that seems like the Texas Republicans have been working on, which is just try to establish like the Maga state, you know what I'm saying, Like a state where pretty much all of those all of those decrees that Trump kind of made on a whim, things that couldn't really go through or it's just who was talking on Twitter. It's like the Texas Republicans are actually trying to govern the state like that and have

like all of these like extreme rights. So I don't think that this is the end of it. I think that, I mean, assuming that nothing gets done about it, I think they're just going to keep trying to push like the limits of of what type of different extreme things that they can pass down there until they're not in power.

I mean, and they try it in Arkansas, and they're gonna try it and like wherever they're starting at first in Texas, I think they know they can get a lot of this ship like cram through the pass, ye know what I'm saying. But I mean they're they're celebrating like cops on horseback whippin people one day, you know what I'm saying, and then the next day they're like

passing through like extreme abortion meators. I wouldn't be surprised if they passed through some statewide stop and frisk stuff soon, you know, if it's already on the books for all that I know. Fuck. But thankfully, with regards to reproductive freedom and justice, UM, a federal judge did block the enforcement of texas is controversial new abortion law, UM, granting an emergency requestioned the Justice Department. So we will see.

They will live to find another day. Unfortunately, UM, it's definitely going to be a block enforcement with a law on a temporary basis basis, and you know, for now it's unclear how long I'm gonna be an effect, So we will see how long the battle goes on. Do

we know what other states are trying to pass? They definitely, I mean the Georgia State Legislature is not in session right now, but already people like Butch Miller, who's also running a belief for the attendant governor have you know, declared that they will, like the gleefully can't wait to get get the fucking state legislature into session to start crafting equally nefarious bills of their own. I'm not aware of like what other states, like you know, fucking dashes

are plotting right now, but it's definitely happening. It looks like Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Mississippi, Michigan, Oklahoma, West Virginia, and Wisconsin. I hate that. As you said that, I heard it in my head to like the Animaniacs tune of like the fifty states in yeah, why do why do? Why? Does that make me feel like I gotta say, for some of you all out there, the Animaniacs was a cartoon back Damn. Don't like that. Can't even give him

no door. The explo are some new ship. You're gonna hit him with an Animaniac's reference Animaniacs, I would have hit it. I would have given a tiny tumbs on

the ass. Fuck. Alright, So up next we're gonna be talking about this is kind of a continuation of when we each had about We talked a little bit about the Facebook whistle blower coming forward to review serious harm being perpetrated against young people who were using these platforms, particularly Instagram, um worsening or or inciting, you know, eating disorders or suicidal audiation and page um girls, things like that, and so those really interesting reading up on the testimony

on hearing that it seems to be at issue that's uniting Republicans and Democrats. UH Senator Marsha Blackburn, Republicans and Tennessee accused Facebook of intentionally targeting children under d h their tea with an addictive product, saying it's clear that Facebook prior types of profit over the well being of children and all users. And then she was, you know, echoed by UH subcommittee chair Richard Blumenthal, Democrat from Necticut, UM say he was like, yeah, bet same, what are

we gonna do? And so it's interesting that like we found some common grounds, like everything hates Facebook. Maybe you know,

we like we can all unite to take him down. Unlikely, But that's a that's like a two edged thing because on on one hand, on one hand, I get what you're saying, but I think that that united front is like resting on you know, very unshaky foundation, because are very shaky foundation, because like the reasons that we hate Facebook are completely different, you know what I mean, Like we hate Facebook because it's causing harm to children and

and sewing division and spreading hate and stuff like that, disseminating this information. They hate Facebook because they banned Trump after he tried to do a coup. You know what I'm saying, stuff like they're not even It's like just because it's this thing that I always feel about, like, you know, finding solidarity with the right wingers, And it's like if they have the same solutions as we do, been cool and I like and likely event that the

solutions to similar problems are the same. But in most cases when we do share the same problems, our solutions and reasonings for it is like wildly different and ship like that. The second thing is, I don't know if that is going to hold up because I've already seen on Fox News the whole whatever the Democrats and whatever the lips do, do the opposite. I've already seen that ship taken hold. I've seen Laura Ingram, Well, why did

they hate Facebook all of a sudden? We Maybe Facebook isn't doing anything wrong, I mean simply because the Democrats have an issue with it. So I mean, if that starts, if that filters down to Trump and he gives the word, I think Marsha Blackbird will change her to turn. I think they should break it all up, to be honest, Yeah, not even yeah. I mean the fact that it went down in the way that it was, like severely interrupted communications for people who rely on it all over the globe.

The fact that it could have that level of influence, like regardless of any sort of massive conglomerate, any sort of mass corporation that has that sort of like vice like grip on the public sphere like that. Then Okay, what a social media being Amazon funk all these niggas. It's wrong and it's it's the option, right, one might say, Um, so yeah, I mean on just pure antitrust ground breaking up.

I wonder on what point would Facebook have done something different, you know, like how how bad would it have had to be before they would have been like, oh, this is an emergency, we have to We've got to change course or something like that. Because it really makes you wonder, because it's pretty bad like what it is, you know, like the harm that they already are causing, that they themselves did it internal you know, investigation and researching to

find out our company is actually causing these effects. You know what, guys don't pay attention to that let's just keep doing what we're doing, business as usual. We've got to get this bread. I mean, what if it was really like, what if in their internal investigation it was like, yo, Facebook can cause mass suicide? Like they probably would have just said, nothing to see here, let's just how do we cover it up? They would have sent it to the comms department and media, like, hey, how do we

spend this? Like, well, the mass suicides send all a bunch of people to have their nirvana, so they're not suffering anymore. It's great, you know, Like, maybe I'm naive, but if you had asked me ten years ago would Facebook become the corporation from the Aliens movies? I wouldn't have guessed it. But that's where the funk we are right now. Where the funk we are right now. I mean, what do you think that they're gonna do you think you think any of that breaking up talk that we're

talking isn't even a possibility? Here is? I don't think enough people genuinely care in order for any action to be taken, because one side is really cut up in a culture war market, Rubio putting forward bills to ban wokeness and corporations or something like these people deeply, deeply on serious and so I just like don't think that they also think that the issue is so like it's like it's it's weird because Facebook is like so ubiquitous and yet the problem is so niche and that like

people don't think it affects their bottom line, their bread and butter, the kitching table issues of just like what impacts their wallet, their family will being you know, things like infrastructure or child tax credits or you know, just stuff of the every day. Uh, the issue of whether or not an algorithm, which, first of all, what really is an algorithm? I couldn't explain when an algorithm is

to you could the average voter. I don't know, like in the impacts that it's having our childings about their health, all these things are so I guess in a sense of seal that I don't think people in Congress are going to take it seriously because it's not gonna impact it's not gonna like resonate with any vote. So what's the point. Yeah, like you're gonna read on Facebook one day on your eighteenth hour of scrolling that Sunday that you know, oh, we've been Facebook's algorithm that was directing

girls to content that's making them suicidal. Like and you're like, huh, that's interesting. You're gonna keep scrolling through Facebook. Ultimately, That's how I feel about that. So let's move on to this next one. This is probably going to the hottest button topic of the week or last few weeks, I

guess so. Famed comedian Dave Chappelle recently put out a new special on Netflix called The Closer, and, as has been the pattern with all of his other Netflix specials, it has caused a uproar of controversy over his uh, homophobic, transphobic lyrics or did I say lyrics been comedy? Bit Um, I'm really interested in hearing your take first before you go into because you said you watched it recently, right,

I did. They watched on Sunday. I tried to cry on my way to my friend's fucking birthday party because I was a little mad. All right, Well, going into that, before you get on what you're you know why it caused you to have that reaction, Let's start back to, like, if you can't remember back when he first started doing these uh Netflix specials, because each one of them have had a, you know, a controversy attached with it as

far as like on this particular show. I think maybe the last one didn't because that was the COVID one, So he was mainly talking about like George Floyd COVID stuff. But what is your what have you been thinking about de Chapel in this since he has made this comeback where he's been doing the comedy specials and being in the public eye more and stuff like that, what have you been thinking about the controversy surrounding him leading up

to this? I mean, it's funny because I had seen very I've recently seen like the last couple of years of Netflix specialists of his, and well it felt like it was creeping into an uncomfortable territory with regards to LGBTQ issues. UM. Ultimately I still mostly laughed, Like, you know, the balance of my experience of the special I might have a moment of discomfort, but mostly I was happy,

mostly find really funny. Um, even in the parts they're problematic, were um touch points for conversation around the problems and solves, So not necessarily for nothing or these like somewhat sticky uncomfortable issues being raised. Um, but in this one, I feel like he was his ego had been so bruised by the beating he had taken regarding that earlier content that that agree to which he doubled down on it took it into a territory. I was like, Oh, this

is not this isn't fun anymore. Like this is a fun anymore. Man. He was weird. It was really weird. It's really weird. And I will say, you know, as a person identifies as queer, um and hearing the way he talked about the black community in contrast to the gay community, as if there are two separate things and there aren't people that fall into both categories. Um, he even you know, I don't want to know burning of his jokes, right thing, but he even talks about um, oh,

I don't have a problem with transgender people. I have I have a problem with the white people, as if all transgender people are white. Um. Like when it started to get into that territory was like the first thing that took me out of it. It's like, you know, we exist, right, like, you know those people in the black community who are trans, who are bisexual, who are gay, lesbian, Like he's always attacking um, transness as white and like lgbt qt nous as white when I was like, no,

niked like we out here too. In fact, you know, fucking Stonewall Marshas B. Johnson, you know, he threw the shock glass heard around the world and started at the Stonewall riots allegedly what was the fucking black transax worker, Like she was a woman of color and so to just ignore were then that's like, that is the genesis of everything we know Pride to me today, every Pride celebration you know and they've ever seen and been to heard about came from sucking Stonewall, which was led by

women of color, who were trans and who were queer, and like just totally erase that whole history and be like nope, you're either black and you're straight, or you're why are you queer? Or you fucking or I hope you die? Okay, I don't know was what took me out of it initially? Okay, so then what so then how did escalate from there? For you? Um? Without you get too many spoilers. I feel like a lot of these things have become memes and so like, I think

this is public knowledge. If you haven't seen the special, he says, I'm team Turf, saying that he's on the same team as like trans exclusionary radical feminists pretty much, people who don't think trans people are there are are there, you know, their gender that they identify with, you know,

especially trans women not being women. Let me run down some of these before before you continue, just to you know, because this is like she said, this isn't really spoiling it because a lot of this stuff is already out there, but just to run down some things that he said in the special for anybody who's wondering, Um, this I guess will kind of be spoiler quotes. Um he said, Uh, any of you who have ever watched me know that

I've never had a problem with transgender people. If you listen to what I'm saying, clearly, my problem has always been with white people. That's going to your point about not acknowledging that there are definitely a lot of black transgender people, my dude, and histhanic and yeah, like an indigenous like to say like, oh I hate oh my problems.

You know all these trans white trans people and those are the only trans people exist and defending what's her name of the Harry Potter, Lady J k Rowland, Sorry, yeah, he was supporting her um talking about it, and she's herself has been caught in some controversies, some anti trans controversy, but he said, I'm team turf Uh. At the end of the comedy special, he says, all I ask of your community, with all humility, will you please stop punching

down on my people? And that's probably the part of the ship that really rubbed me wrong because I felt that's just like the accumination of everything that you just said in terms of like the whole thing felt like it had this eerie vibe of I mean, if I were just to oversimplify it, it felt like the mission statement of the special was like the gay community and the black community or at odds because Kevin Harten the

baby Lost Gigs. It doesn't that sound dumb like it just it just had this weird like you know, It's like, if the point of it is not to put black people against gay people, then what was the point? You know what I mean? Because it wasn't you touched on

my big other problem with it. It's putting these marginalized communities against each other, as if it's a it's like it's a race, like, oh, we gotta get like one of us is going to make it to the top, the others we gotta step on their heads to get there, which is I think I think speaks to the nature of the jokes stepping on the heads of another mortalized group in order to yourself ascend, when it's like, no,

I'm in. All of our liberations are tied together, like black people a free, or straight black people a free until queer black people are free, until queer white people are free, until you know, Mexican trans people are free. Like we all gotta fight together against the people who are really killed causing us all the problems, which just fucking you know, Jeff suffer. Jeff Zuckerberg one of those stitches. So here's my here's my overall problem with the stave

of Chappelle Special. Right, it's not even you know, it's like taking myself out of it. I have way more there's way more of an issue with the aftermath of the situation than the special itself. To me, in the time that the Special has come out, like all of the worst human beings in the world have come from under the rocks and holes that they hide him to like give praise to Dave Chappelle. Dachapelle's got it right. He's one of the good ones. He knows what it is.

Telling these well, that's PC culture. If there's literally there's not literal goose stepping Nazis are online like talking about like yo, man, that was yeah. Dave Chappelle, he like gets like there's people, there's people who I should you not who Just last week we're praising, Oh, look at the cops beating those Haitians with the whips on horseback. We need more of that in the streets. We need to do it out like those same exact people are

talking about like, oh, man, Dave Chappelle is awesome. Dave Chapelle is awesome. Now, I don't want to like man shin too many of them, you know what I'm saying, because like I don't want to like give shine to any whack ship. But for me, it's just weird that Dave Chappelle is not saying anything like Nazism like I mean, and and when I say Nazis, I mean I'm talking like some of them figuratively and some quite literally. You

know what I'm saying, there's one cat. Again, I'm trying not to mention it, but there's one cat who who made a video of him and his friends, like with one of his friends putting his knee on the back of his neck to like make a demonstration of Oh, George Floyd wasn't really in any danger. He died from Fete Mille. In this dude is talking about man Dave

Chappelle's awesome day Chapelle's office. Now, the thing is, if I was talking about like some internet trolls or like people with egg avatars and ship like that, no, I mean, obviously there's no reason for Dave Chappelle to feel any sort of like responsibility to like acknowledge that or engaged with those people. Whatever. The motherfucker's that I'm talking about get more likes, views, and retweets than most of the rappers of de Chappell be hanging out with, you know

what I mean. So these are people with platforms and voices who just yesterday we're saying black people deserve to be whipped on horseback, and now today here Dave Chappelle said something about trans people. Yeah, do it so effectively whether he knows it or not, Like not like a lot of this ship isn't dependent on people being active

participants or not. Whether de Chappelle realizes it or not, he's effectively serving the same purpose as Candice Owens is in this instance straight out you gotta have some real ship of self reflection to look around you and be like, is that Ben Shapiro? Oh wait, is that bitch watters class? Or you like what I said? Oh no, I mean what did that? Do you that moment? That moment I talked about the Joe Rogan ship, Right, But like motherfucker's can say whatever, Like you can say whatever you want

to say about Joe Rogan. You can say people criticize them unfairly or blah blah, blah blah. One thing that is a fact is that, for like two years of the Joe Rogan Show, the main topic of discussion that he wanted to talk about with every white guest was man, you know, black people are just born with low i q, and everyone says we're racist when we talk about it.

How come we can't talk about these things? How black people are genetically inferior and born with low i Q. Like, my whole thing is whether Joe Rogan has an explanation for why that was like something he wanted to talk about. I just always as like a fan. Just imagine, damn if Their Chappelle was sitting across the table from somebody who was doing that, he would probably check Start and Day Chappelle has been on the show like twice since Joe Rogan has been on that. Ship and Day Chappelle

didn't say ship about that. They're smoked hey, but but yeah, I mean, you know, like when you see it back then and it alarms you when you see it like two years ago or not even two years ago. I think the last Day Chappelle Joe Rogan interview was like maybe like five or six months ago. When you see it,

it's like, damn, that's weird. Like Joe Rogan was definitely going off all all pandemic about like you know, like protesters should stop in black lives matters out of hand, and terrorists and the cops we gotta trust the cops, and ship like really, like dude, she probably got shipped to say about that like at all. So now ship like this puts it in a different sort of context for a cat like me. And again I'm not I don't I'm not talking about the special. I'm talking about

the aftermath of this ship. It's super weird. He had he had a public event where at the end of it he was like, Hey, if this is what getting canceled looks like, then I love it. Fox, fuck ms NBC, funck, ABC A tall freak. There was a huge admission to that. I have no choice but to think it was deliberate unless I thought Dave Chappelle was stupid. But I don't think they've Chappelle is stupid, So I think that's a deliberate thing. He deliberately left Fox News out of that

because he has a fan base. Now he's getting that paper, and that's the fan base that he's got. You know when I say fan base, now, I mean there's a whole new crop of fans. If you're out there and you're a dear Chapelle fan, you've been a Dear Chappelle fan since the Chappelle shell. Oh you got You've got some new brothers and sisters and arms on your team. So a lot of them were storming the Capitol a couple of months ago. You know what I'm saying. You

know what I'm gonna I'm gonna say it. I re watch The Chapelle Show recently, and other than the nostalgia value, it really wasn't that funny there I said it. I don't know if I could wrap with you on that. Hey, I stand with me, stand with the fucking the new fans. Tell you what you want. I mean, you like the company you KEI you like the company you key. But yeah, I mean just at the bottom line, you know, the

ship was that was just whack. That's wha. I've watched it for you and we didn't like it, So don't do it. Don't give him the clicks I mean for you. I'm not again, I'm not gonna tell anybody to not watch anything like like if you all I'm saying is I thought the ship was whack. I'm a queer folks and l lgbt Q. Everybody don't watch it. I was very upset. I thought I'd be like, oh, an interesting, just intellectual exercise to see how I feel. Just to pause,

you know the meaning of the jokes. No, I know. I did not enjoy it. I mean, okay, in fairness, he did bring up some interesting things which I won't get into in case anyone's gonna watch it. It doesn't wantny spoilers. There's someone that's very insightful, but not in relation to anything translated everything. How much of the special would you say the trans stuff took up? It was like a lot of it. I was like, Bro, you made your boy fucking stop Jesus. So let's talk on

and on. Man, let's let's go on a little bit more about this. So since the whole thing with that happened, um, you've had let me go to Okay, So since that all happened, you've had you know, a lot of people

have spoken out against it. Glad has spoken out. UM. Trans woman who actually works for Netflix put out a tweet that read, yesterday we launched another Chappelle special where he attacks the trans community and the very validity of transnis, all while trying to pit us against other marginalized groups. You're going to hear a lot of talk about offense. We are not offended. And she was later suspended from Netflix. Now they they say it was for trying to get

into a meeting that she wasn't invited to. But um, it came shortly after that thread of tweets went viral. Um. Other comedians and celebrities have come out in praise of Dave Chappelle, including this one interesting one that I wanted to run by you Varry, because like, if this is where things are going, holy shit, do I have some thoughts. So comedian Damon Wayne's offered his praise Dave Chappelle, and he said, quote, I feel like Dave freed the slaves. Yeah,

the comedians. We were slaves to PC culture. And he just you know, as an artist, he's Van Gogh. He cut his ear off. He's trying to tell us it's okay, I've always been free. But um, I just think he's saying, you know what, all that I have, I'm not afraid to lose it for the sake of creative freeness of speech. You can't edit yourself. Comedians who were like Mercedes makes great cars, but you gotta crash a lot before they're perfect. Yeah. Cool.

So white people's, particularly who work in electoral politics, are so confused and blinded to the amount of conservatism in the black community. Yeah, like that's straight up, where are we talking points? I've I've said this before on this show. If Republicans literally just narrowed down their focus too, we

hate gay people and poor people. They would have like of the black vote really happened to hate black people doing Yeah, they can't control they can't control the hatred that end like trying not to say it, but yeah, no, that's that's definitely a right wing talking point. And it's just like, I mean, it doesn't he's trying to tell us it's okay to do what to do what they could Like you're damon Wayne, David. Wayne's has been richer

longer than he was a regular human being. Yeah, stop, I think that even I think that might even apply for Dave Chappelle too. I think that Chappelle has been richer longer than rich and famous longer than you was a regular person. So like I mean, at this point, you know, here in this ship, like these niggas ain't

really living like on Earth and ship. I don't know what the fund is going on, but I know that if if if people are gonna start, let me put on like my African let me put on my African costume right now so I can so I can talk about this and address this with a certain level of detachment, you know what I mean addressed, Like if African Americans are gonna start hopping on this bandwagon of like PC culture and oh I hate the Wokens and blah blah

blah blah blah. Yo. You you, you have to be prepared to keep the energy up and to match the energy, because it's gonna come around the next time some country singer says some ship that you don't like, the next time some NASCAR driver or NFL quarterback is on camera saying some ship. Shut the funk up, shut up, shut all the way up. There's this picture that went viral,

and it's of this Closer Comedy special. Right. It's a picture of Dave Chappelle, I think, kind of from behind him, and he's on stage and there's like the room is full, and everybody's like cackling, laughing their ass off, and there's these two I want to say women, but just in all fairness, they then I don't know, but these two people in the audience obviously looking uncomfortable in distress. That picture, this ship went viral. Everybody was looking at it, laughing,

ha ha ha. Why don't you just stay home? Look at these two people? Don't like the show? These It was going around Like what I'm saying is keep that energy, because if that was Larry the Cable Guy going in on a forty minute bit about how black people aren't good fathers and they eat watermelon and fried chicken in a room full of white people's cackling and laughing, and there's two lone black people sitting there looking uncomfortable, and that picture is going viral with people laughing at there

be a fucking Black Lives Matter march from here to fucking San Francisco and then maybe a lot of gay people in that march marching Wicks like, yeah, we get it exactly when he was like, oh, I'm team Turf. That's like so it's like sucking Lady the Cable Guy being like, yeah, I'm in the Ku Klux Klan. It's like no way anyone that would ever be allowed, and it shouldn't be because that's fucking scary because that they were killing niggas as recently as recently, as recently, they

still probably killing it. Does I think we need to? I think we need to. Let's just make my blood boy, We're gonna need to take a break and get into the music discussion. But I mean, you know, before we do it, though, I was just like can't nobody confuse me for anything even remotely woke. You know what I'm saying, Like, that's just I'm not saying that as like a virtue, and I'm not denigrating anything. It's just not who I am.

It's just you know what I'm saying, It's just like, that's not the social circle that I like Roman and that Roman this is. But like, you don't have to be woke to recognize when ship is whack, yo, and to just critique it the way that I would critique some rap shit. The production might have been dope, the delivery might have been on point, but when I think of a content, nah, I don't funk with this, man,

I can't. Yeah, I got way more problems than blue haired fourteen year olds on Twitter saying bad stuff about comedians. Get the funk out of here, man, Nah, that's just whack. And if if if a community is telling you that something is hurting them and you keep doing it anyway, you don't care about them. And he can say all day long that he is a feminist, that you know he cares about transfolks, but that is simply true. You don't. You don't cont to do something if it's hurting because

somebody period and niggas like me where I'm from. When Neo Nazis is liking this ship that you do, usually you like reassess the ship did you do it? And you're like, oh wait, let me you think about that a bit, just one second. Anyway, we gotta pay some bills. We'll be back with the music discussion, y'all. Alright, so we are back with the music discussion. It's it's an odd one. We're not really talking about songs. Were just

talking about We're talking about a musician. Yes, okay, So I don't even know which one to go at first because these are just like musing thoughts. But which one do you want? Do you want to talk about? Meek? Okay? Yeah? So um, speaking of also trying to give any spoilers, Um, I watched the game last week. I don't know if you've seen any haven't seen yet. I haven't seen it. It's got Somebody tells me it's like the perfect blend of Battle Royale and Hunger Games. That's how it's been

described to me. Oh, you froze for a second, but I think the audio probably still got captured a blend of Battle Royale and why in Hunger Games, Yeah, pretty much. I mean it's it's got its own special twist on the general theme, particularly in making it a little more of an incisive critique on capitalism and the like. It's very plain to see. Like, it's very very plain to see. And me in a tweet called us Out, he said, in Squid Games, pay attention to have as people switch

and kill each other to survive. Nothing about quote unquote hood property. It's the same exact same thing. If you just help them with work money, they won't be that way. It's just a common sense message. So he's like calling out like the underlying drive to accumulate capital to you know,

stay alive, to future family, whatever you gotta do. Uh, spurring people to be blood the sea as hell, killing each other like in in metaphorical ways in um life, oftentimes the oe literal ways as well in the Hood, but then like in very little literal ways in the show. Uh. And then it's really funny because then he subsequently got

made fun of for trying to be deep. But he's like right though, And it's part of a larger trend I have found of people thinking the show is about human nature and not a blatant critique capitalism, like oh, it's so fucked up. People have turned against each other when the chips are down human nature and it's like, well, that's capitalism talking, is it? So I wanted to with you because what triggers somebody to say human nature in

that instance, that's that's capitalists. It couldn't. It could be that we're socialized into a capitalist system and so everything we know we assume that is it is, but that way by default. There could be no other option. But it could also be that maybe it is human nature that has given rise to capitalism. But we do all kinds of ship that isn't human nature, that we make

choices to do because it's better for us. We fucking philip airplanes with fossil fuels and six hundred miles an hour across the world in six hours and land it's a totally different countries. Like that's not human nature, but we do it because it's good to do for a reason. And so I mean, I don't know, it's it's human nature inherently greedy or and that's why we have capitalism, or as capitalism make people greedy, and really our human nature is like more benevolent. Hey, I don't know. I'm

just a stoner rapper guy. But there's a difference between human nature makes people greedy and human nature is responsible for these fucking complex like economic systems and ship like that, like not not yo, I don't think that's human nature. I think that's that's game, like you know what I'm saying, Like, I'd like to believe humans a lot more collaborative because we live without you know, a lot of these concepts money and clear household and shipped for a very long time.

Human nature is vicious? Do you ask my question? Like, is human nature vicious? And that's why we have capital not necessarly why it's having but it doesn't have to get into is that why we have capitalism? But is

human nature vicious? I don't know. I've only lived within the constraints of the society leven, which I think definitely accelerates that, uh, that tendency, even if it's not innate what I'm saying, I think, I mean for my experiences, you know, I would say that I think that human nature, you know, does have a vicious viciousness to it. There is definitely like a dog eat dog sort of base to to like the you know, humans and their natural

state and ship like that. But I don't know. It's like, I think, if you can acknowledge, I have a problem. I have a problem when people acknowledge their problems and don't change it. You know what I'm saying. I feel like if you are stute enough to be like, gee, the economic social situation that I'm in is causing people to do X y Z. Fuck it, I'm gonna do it anyway, you know what I mean. That doesn't That

doesn't fly with me, you know what I mean. So I think I think that's probably would be like a nitpick critique Meek Mills observation. But I think it's cool that you know, he's he's thinking that ship and making those observations. As far as like people coming down on him and ragging on him and making fun of him about trying to be deep. That goes with your brandings, sir, you know what I mean. I don't feel that if J Cole had made this observation that anybody would have

said any of those things too. Not that J Cole is like some scholar professor or anything like that, but J Cole's brand is, Hey, I'm a nigga who might think about something like this from time to time. You know what I mean Meek Mills. I mean we know that what Meek Mills work and with like the prison system and shore like that, but let's keep it real. He didn't do that until he went to jail. Yeah, you know other other than that, like Meek Mills, brand

is yo, I'm partying bubbly. I'm a tough guy. I'm cool. So like if he comes out and tries to make like a socio economic like uh uh commentary and then one that's like you know, based around the show and it's not. It's just like really like surface level. Yeah. I I personally in in all fairness and being a public figure. Yeah, I I see white people who are

joaning on him. I mean, uh, it comes back to you in part like what I've heard people be, like, you know, act like musicians just sucking make music like don't be I think it haven't even been Malcolm X who talked about like, oh, in no other field, for no other people, would you expect your fucking baseball players and you're you know, rappers or wherever to like be

activists and have like informed opinions about things. It's only with black people because if you're rich and your black, oh well we're going to tokenize you and like make your opinion matter. Um, it all depends, It all depends. Yeah, they pick and choose. Well, let's let's cap it off today. We got one song that we're gonna talk about. Oh word, Yeah,

so we are going to check out. Back when Mariah was on an eternity leave, I mentioned how much I really loved the album by this rapper Mac Commy called Pray for Haiti. If you guys haven't heard it, it is really, really, really dope. I highly recommend it. It is like if most deaf also cap Nicks. It's just it's just it's hard, it's smooth, it's smart, but it's ignorant. It's just dope. It's really dope. And I thought that the song Marie kind of kind of encapsulates what you're

gonna expect the album. But Michael veil By, even when she rocked the veil Mommy, Before we get into it, I just want to take the first time to acknowledge this for all y'all. I know that was just five seconds of dopness for y'all. But that was two minutes of a masterpiece that we got to listen to. Mccomie is a Haitian American rapper. He's been rapping for a long ast time. This new album, Pray for Haiti, is actually his ninth album because up until, you know, a

few years ago, he was like an underground. He hooked up with Griselda and now people have started catching onto the lyrics. But the whole album is filled with interludes of like news clippings about Haiti and Haiti situation. It doesn't really specifically tie into what the songs are about. But it's just like everything is so abstract. But I don't know, it's he's really dope. He's probably the closest thing to a pre internet rapper that we have right now.

Like that it doesn't even show his face, Like, motherfucker, ain't got no bio, They ain't got no website, you ain't got no Twitter handle, yea, yea. All all anyone knows about this dude is that he's ill as hell on the mic, and I dig that. It's like the pieces of his personality you have to piece them together from listening to his music. That that ships fucking flat to me? What do you think of the song? Oh no, it's smooth as hell. Um, I just like, I meanily

like just melted into the beat. Am I tripping? Like most stuff? A little? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? What do I want to that nick up to these days? Come get your boys, your pal, come get him, come get words. Where are you y'all seeing? Baby? The way that rap is going though, Man, I don't even know if I want to know all of those stuff. Thanks. Yeah, I don't want to beat this point, I really don't. I don't know how many more people I thought are cool being on some wax shit. It's it's a circle of life.

Wagnias just decline and fade and the new pretty cool people come up and it's like, oh, I didn't I didn't hear. I didn't know about Macony, like, and I learned today that he's dope and now you'll replace yeah in my heart. Yeah, this is the tycle goes On tyle goes On ship. You know what? This felt really good.

I'm not even I'm not even lying. It felt really good to get this off the child Like I feel a bit better thinking about this, like all week, and it's like I was like, damn, man, I really wish I had an outlet that I could express these thoughts about there's oh wait, yeah, anyway, I think we need to close it off. It's it's getting late, yeah, Joel, our homie Joe. You know it's funny whenever we keep

we say Joel dropped a beat all the time. It's he ain't even making these beats, but he's really good at dropping him ships though, drop him ships son Chief and on the marvel of saving on my fist break welling all dark, cold black, like on Wednesday, I'm lost my marbles like I was in this quick game. I'm starting king heart broken, trauma, talma. Suddenly every time I'm reminded for for the color, don't as this, HOLLI gays are white and all the fellas otherwise, and we are

blind to every other kind of type. Draw Rod the line between the groups to sip unite, saying about the straight blacks versus the white days and the transitten names or whatever the dry to say, it's all of us up against the system art to keep us fighting each other instead of working together. As dope Knife, I'm Lea Franca and you've been listening to Waiting on Reparations piece See you next week. Winning on Reparations is a production

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