The Life of Pablo

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week we're gonna keep it talking about revolutionaries. But we're about to flip the script of little Bit and we're about to talk about contemporary revolutionary, a contemporary revolutionary and also someone who is across the pond Yeah. So, um, week before last, uh, Catalonian rapper Pablo Hassel got arrested for some tweets and uh lyrics that he has insulting the crown and allegedly uh uh glorifying terrorism, which hasn't since struck up riots all over all over the country

of Spain. Uh. That went on for about five days. And so we're gonna talk a little bit about Pablo Sells music and political leanings, the riots in Spain last week that sprung up in a response to his incarceration over his lyrics and tweets, and think a little bit about what they can tell us Yankees about free speech and left his politics in Spain. Now, wouldn't we say riots?

Are we talking about riots in the form of that's what the powers that be would describe them as, or are we talking about like actual legits And like a hundred people were injured, thirty five points officers hospitalized. Um, you know, just kind of ship you know, demonstrations that some on the ground reported escalated into clashes when the

police you know agitated. Some young folks interviewed by like CNN as an example kind of like claimed that they were someone of the aggressors that led to UM the escalation of violence as well. There were some claims that there were some quote unquote outside agitators that did things like start looting, etcetera, that weren't part of the demonstrations in spirit, etcetera. But you know, this kind of stuff

that's become familiar as global capitalism. Curious, I'm curious, ato how many of our listeners are aware of this, because, like I mean, I wasn't even aware of the situation because it's not being covered on American at least not corporate news anyway. To be honest with you, I haven't seen it anywhere. I haven't even heard. I didn't even hear, you know, hear about this in Democracy Now or anywhere,

So I don't know. It's wild. So we're gonna talk a little bit about who Pablo is UM, the events leading up to his arrest, including you know, his uh, some of the political ally ships that he alludes to in his lyrics UH that have been condemned by the Spanish courts. But also want to go background on free speech in Spain, like this isn't the first time something like this has happened UM and the in two thousand

and fifteen. I think the Conservatives, like slightly right party passed some like ship cracking down on rdom of expressions like there, it's kind of like a whole thing and we're getting into just like in simplications, etcetera. But yeah, we're gonna get into all of that after the jump. Pablo Hassel is a Catalan rapper, writer, poet, and left his political activists. He took his artistic name from a

revolutionary character in an Arabic short story. In an interview with l Periodico Inen, he cited the typical influences the source of his revolutionary ideas. That's a Shakavara, the Cuban of the Cuban revolution. He said, I asked myself the question, and Marxism gave me the answer for why some hoards so much and the majority have so little and live in misery. And I quickly want to say that, like I had to like read a bunch of interviews with

him and like songs and stuff. The best I can was my like Spanish, I used to be very good, like almost, but I haven't used in many years, like translate a lot of his interviews and stuff. So I hope I do him justice. He or in some of this,

but in any case and tweets and music. Hotel is condemned to police violence and express support for armed revolutionary groups, including Grappo, a group that engaged in arms struggle to destabilize the new Spanish Democratic government in favor of communism during the nineteen seventies eighties after the Branko dictatorship was toppled.

He also shouted out bast separatist group e t A, a nationalist separatist organization in the Basque Country of northern Spain and southwestern France that engaged in a violent campaign of bombings, assassinations and kidnappings throughout the Spanish territory with the goal of gaining independence for the Basque Country. An

interview its outside of Garrappo. It is incredible that people are branded as criminals and spent thirty years in prison because they have chosen to dedicate their entire life to the fight against a genocidle system. One can be against armed struggle, but please, Grappo did not bomb hospitals and schools like the Yankee Empire. Instead, you are a popular party member who supports down side in the East. Well,

you are considered an hero and a great man. The People's Party, for background, is a conservative Christian democratic political party in Spain. They goes on to say, however, if you do not condemn Grappo, you are branded a terrorist of the worst kind. We live in an upside down world where the worst is accepted in justice and resistance and barbarity gets punished. As Malcolm X said, the newspapers act so that the masses end up loving their oppressors

and condemning those who oppressed them. It's important to understand that bass in the northwest and Catalans in the northeast have a strong national identity, long histories and a struggle for autonomy from the Spanish government, which I imagine influences

things too. Yeah, so there's already the sense of like fun the government just ringing down the chain of their own like community histories, as these like autonomous regions that you know, see themselves as separate from Spain, but ultimately

are like overseen by the Spanish government. Um, I think deeper than we experience in the States, in the sense of like our history is fairly short and so like there isn't really a regional history, regional sense of identity that extends back past the foundation of our nation and so like we might be like every bit, but it's not because like there's like in our DNA like recollection and like you know, like a cultural like uh tendency towards like this your memory for I'm saying, I'm like,

we're not even part of this ship, right, Like yeah, part of their culture is we are our own people, like we are separate, like going back way back before Spain was ever a country, and like it today still like animates a lot of their you know, fight, the fight for liberation is like in different terms here because they're struggling for their autonomy against like what they see is like a fascist Spanish government and that's kind of

imposed on them, even if it's supposedly a democracy. And I imagine when some of those lines were drawn that included them into the nation of Spain, it wasn't done necessarily on their own volition country. It's like part of Spain and part of France, and they're just like, well, nope, half of half of that is Spain now, like you

know what the hell is? That would not raised my eyebrow, but just it's always like a cool thing to see as him citing Malcolm X, and it's just like, you know, it always takes me aback, how like I mean, you know, someone like Malcolm X was like trying to make a difference in trying to change things, you know what I'm saying,

and affect a lot of different people. But it's like, you know, if you could ask Malcolm X back then, it's like, yo, do you think fifty sixty years from now that Spanish revolutionary you know what I'm saying, are gonna be like citing you as an influence or or citing the work you did, or learning from the steps that you took. That that always is impressive to me. Let's go, let's get to talk a little bit about

Pablo's arrest. So there's a twenty four hour stand off between police and rapper Pablo, which saw riot cops clash with HASEL supporters outside of YadA University in northeastern Carolonia, Spain. It ended last Tuesday. Last Tuesday morning, when anti riot officers strom the university's rectoric building. An apprehended as he was escorted out, Pablo's reporter to have shouted, it is the fascist state that has arrestued me death to the

fascist state. With his fist racing the air, He and more than fifty supporters locked themselves inside the university in Spain's northeastern Catalina region at midday on Monday. This isn't his first bresh with the law either. It was also convicted in eighteen for insulting the monarchy and glorifying terrorism.

So on the Twitter account, he's paid homage to Grappo Um and um he said that Um, when the Granppo militant was shot dead by police in n two, that he had been murdered by the police for defending our rights. Writing on Twitter and Sol frequently accuses the Spanish security forces of torture and murder, using the term Nazia now police,

a fusion of national and Nazi. And he's accused the royal family of corruption incests, corruption incests and cocaine addiction, suggesting the guillotine for one of the former monarch's daughters. Such things will come up in a sow. We're gonna talk about a little bit later. The rapper also referred to the Spanish royal family as fascists and described one Carlos, the former monarch, as a mafia boss. First ties to

Saudi royals. So after all of this, it stirred up free speech concerns from Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, and the U N Human Rights Council, who all say that they were troubled at the state of freedom of expression in Spain. And I mean it gets you. It's just the dichotomy, especially considering some of the things that we've

talked about in the last few weeks. You know, when we were going back to cancel culture and how right wingers are feeling like they're persecuted and ship like that. It's like, this is this is what real life canceling it. I know, this is what the Yeah, this is what the actual First Amendment is like literally about like this about you, but like this is actual. This is not some people were mean to you on Twitter, you know

what I'm saying. And it's just like whether you're right wing, left wing, whatever, it's just having a proper perspective about things, I think definitely is important, you know what I'm saying, because at the end of the day, especially when people learn about things like this, what's going on with just makes it just makes you sound like a fucking idiot. You know what I'm saying, like, like, what exactly are

you complaining about? So Amnesty International tweeted, no one should face criminal prosecution only for expressing themselves on social media or singing something that may be distasteful or shocking. Expressions that do not clearly and directly incite violence cannot be criminalized. And I agree with that. I mean, you know, I I I know enough about myself to know that I'm not necessarily like a free speech absolutist, you know, just keeping it real, you know what I'm saying. You can't

y'all fired a crowded theater all that. Yeah, I think this is just interesting to like contrast with what we experience around free speech in the United States, to kind of highlight what like how bad things could be um and perhaps like for telling a future we could have if like we do not beat fascism here, Like yo, I mean, it gets into some other stories of other instances where this has happenings, But um, I think it's under perspect of our own the state of our own

policy around our bright to expression, etcetera. So why don't you tell them a little bit about like what exactly, like explain the situation of the riots to them okay, so UM. The cells arrests resulted in riots in Barcelona, Didona, Medried and Tarragona, resulting in over a hundred injuries over the past week. During the demonstrations UM last Wednesday, fourteen people were arrested in Madrid and twenty nine in Barcelona.

Cops and protesters are reported to have exchanged projectiles, bodels and rocks from one side and tear gas and reber billows from another. Protesters also built and set fired to barricades. Some demonstrators smash windows that fired trash containers and motorcycles related stores. UM. It was reported that thirty five Spanish

capital police officers were hospitalized but UM. One young person interviewed by CNN who took to the streets in Barcelona on Saturday UM claimed that in her experience that protests had been peaceful until the police intervened, which UM, and it sounds about right. Yeah. I mean, whether I don't care whether it's stateside or it's across the ocean, Like police don't get the benefit of the doubt for me,

you know what I'm saying. Like it's also interesting though, to read some of the quotations in that CNN pace uh speaking with young people who are participating in the demonstrations that the woman who I just quoted UM and one other young man they spoke with both condemned the looting and said that you claimed that there may might be outside agitators, that some people might sometimes try to take advantage of the social movements, but they don't, you know,

not actually align them the cause. So it's also interesting to hear those sentiments, those evaluations of what is legitimate protests, etcetera, like also echo in a different um a political fear. Now here's a question I have for you, like, Um, so you have this going on, which, like I said, I hadn't necessarily seen this covered. But then we know that there's the like anti Putin protests going on in Russia. We know what happened in Belarus when they protested after

the election was stolen by the dictator there. Do you think it's do you think it's indicative of something? And then we have, you know, are the summer that we had. Do you think that any of this is like indicative of like a global like a global like a global

sense of unrest. So the intersecting crises we're facing between you know, worsening like climate catastrophes, income inequality, uh, the right, the you know the way that there's this increased polarization of the like the new the rise of the new right globally, and how I think that it's like that mixed with like the failure of global global capitalism and like climate chaos, like people very rapidly radicalizing to the um and being willing to embrace a wider variety of

tactics to make themselves hard um out of frustration, out of just like snapping under the economic anxiety of living at this moment um and living entertainment image coronavirus, you know, all the ship. I mean, the only thing to be careful about with that, I think is that the that like sense of like a global right new like a new global right wing movement is definitely coordinated, you know

what I'm saying. And the actors you see people like Steve Bannon medaling and not meddling, but like Steve Steve Bennon went on like an Austria white supremacist tour, and and that that's all I mean is like I sense that like the the reaction that's radicalizing people to the left is not as like contrived and you know what I mean, and and pre planned as this right wing movement is, because there's a lot of there's a lot of big money propaganda going into the global this global

right wing movement. Um. I think that's all. I think it's also speaks to like the lack of like truly revolutionary like activity and recent history for people to like like we don't we don't really have that sort of I guess we just don't really have that culture of like actual arms struggle, Like when we talk about the Revolutionary War, it was fucking like four hundred years ago. Like you know, we like when we think about battle, we think about stuff that we do to other people

in other countries. It's not something that's like happening in the streets of our town. Um, Like like you know, the E. T A Was doing like Croppo was doing of like blowing up like you know, government buildings and robbing banks and ship like that. Like we don't really have that kind of kind of history. Um and so um.

I think that there's a lot to be said for like the way it seems that in Spain, the sense of like you know, with the with the riots, even like the sense of like revolutionary spirit of like take to the streets might be a little more alive there than here. Well, I mean we're gonna get a little into Hosells lyrics in a bit and actually unpacked some of them, and so we can maybe play the judge. Then if any American rapper has content this, uh, it's

alarming to the state. Yeah. So free speech issues aren't new in Spain or even in Spanish hip hop. So inen, how do you say? How do you pronounce that? Maa Maoca based rapper Faltonik fled to Belgium to avoid a three and a half year sentence for lyrics critical of the Spanish monarchy and allegedly glorifying terrorism. Caesar Strawberry, member of the rock band Death cons Dust, received a one year suspended sentence for tweeting several jokes about E t

A in Grappo but qween. He was initially acquitted by the National Court in sixteen, which declared that Caesar, both in his professional and his private life, doesn't postulate support for terror groups or any kind of violence, and that his intention was ironic or provocative. However, earlier this year, the Supreme Court said that his intention is irrelevant, arguing that Article five seven eight of the Criminal Code does doesn't demand proof of intention behind acts that constitute offense

to glorifying terrorism. His lawyer said he would appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. But Yo, what if we made a law in America that it didn't matter, that it didn't matter your intent? I say that, but I don't even know if maybe they do actually do that. Well, yeah, intent matters, right, because that's why we have second degree murder and first degree murder and you know, an attempted murder and ship like that. But for like, well, I guess we don't mean for the state to like prosecute

you to say that intent doesn't matter. I mean, it's it would kind of be. I don't know if I'm taking this to an extreme, but like with like harmful like harmful consequences of free speech acts, I mean I would imagine that at some point, even in the US,

that your intent wouldn't matter. But it was just kind of I guess it would be depending on what you said, wouldn't it, Because I mean if you said, Yo, everybody start a riot and then or everybody blows something up and then that happened, and then they were like, hey, why do you say that? And you're like, well, that wasn't my intention. Then I guess you could kind of

be like, doesn't matter what your intention said. So in February, two puppeteers were accused of glorifying terrorism while performing a play in Madrid, Damn They're going after puppet tears to The play represented a police set up in which a character held up a poster with the words glora alka e t a, a play on the words al Qaeda and a basque for long live et. A police arrested the duo and help them on charges belonging to an armed gang for several days. They or later acquitted, but

the damage had already been done. Eric since de Bremantuh eric Sen's de Breman, one of the puppeteers lawyers, explained that being accused of glorifying terrorism was already a punishment in itself. The puppeteers were subjected to a public exposure nothing short of brutal. Imagine how it was for them out on the streets in those days, he told periodical, adding that the artists and their families had received death threats.

He also pointed out that when the judge decided that the play was completely legal, the media didn't show the same interest. Okay, well, I mean see they were already not the government and the police were already not getting the benefit of the doubt from me. But it's like the pattern is already is obviously there, you know what

I'm saying. So it's like you can possibly again the whole plausible deniability that you can possibly make the explanation of, Yo, we're dealing with important ship and this thing that this rapper said was just so bad that like we have to pay attention to it and we have to go

after him in YadA YadA, YadA. But obviously if they're going after rapper after rapper and fucking puppet tears on doing street show, you know what I'm saying, it's like the pattern is obviously there that they're just trying to suppress the set just period. It really is fascists, as they say um in two like uh, it kind of expands beyond just like you know, street side puppet shows

or whatever. In two thousand fifteen, the Spanish government, then led by the sender Right People's Are Popular party, introduced a highly controversial public security law known as the gag La I'm on critics, which cracked down on both the right to symbol and freedom of expression. So, yeah, the right rising up ale of Era oll over everywhere, they're gonna win. You know what, I've decided today that they're

probably gonna win. Man. The thing is is that they they have like a strategy, you know what I'm saying, And it's like your right wingers are a lot more willing to put aside their differences so that they can find solidarity with each other and win. If we keep treating, if we keep treating what right wingers are worldwide or doing as if it's like hyperbole or it's like a boogeyman that doesn't really exist. Yeah, you know, one day you're gonna wake up in the US and you know,

find yourself getting arrested for some shift you tweeted. It ain't nobody going to riot because this ship kind of ship doesn't happen Americas. Trying to imagine a single hip hop artist that would inspire this kind of uprising for what doing? What doing? I'm not saying what I mean. If the FBI came for no name or something, I probably have there in the streets, but like not like thousands of people. So yeah, so we won't have the people to come save us when they start getting for us.

So we better take it seriously right now. And which when we were talking about I think it was the last episode about Fred Hampton because we're talking about how come or were saying that there's we've had We've had a friend, a new another Fred Hampton. Just it was different, right, trying to make the point about like how we're in America especially, we're all just like just comfortable enough to not want to rock the boat, you know. That's that's

one of those things is gonna work against us. So even if we do have a situation that's absolutely egregious where like they go after some artists, actor or rapper or whatever, activists, somebody who who says something or makes a piece of art that that makes an expression when they do crack down on them, and it's like obviously like some hatchet job, unfair fascist move, We're still going to kind of be you know, we still have that built in gonna work tomorrow, you know what I mean,

Like we might tweet about it. This is sucked up and you gotta go to work, and what are you supposed to do? You know? The attitude with that, I think that we should get into a little bit of the homie Pablo's discography. Let's get into Pablo's work and see what Pablo has been saying in his music that elicited such a strong reaction out of the government over there. We'll be into that after the joke. As a preface. This man his songs called the USSR overturned All Power

to the Soviets. The first song we're gonna talk about his catalog, it's called straight, straight up, just called communist down. It's communists. Um, let's let's take a listen real quick. That ship was dope. Yeah, alright, so it was fucking hard. It does, I mean off the bat, off the jump. Yeah.

My first reaction to it, and this is, um, we've like Murray was saying, Um, we were watching a lyric video and we've pulled out some lyrics for you, but um, off the jump from listening to it and and reading the lyrics the ad libs at the beginning where he's like, socialism is the only viable form of large scale change. That's like his ad libs where like an American rapper would be going, uh huh, yeah, take that, take that.

This motherfucker's like yeah, motherfucker. Socialism is the only viable form of large scale change, Like off the jump, it is so avertly agenda driven, you know what I'm saying That like if if you put yourself in a factist governments shoes for a second, it's like we got so terrified. And I mean, like from aesthetic perspective, it doesn't feel pre chey to me. It doesn't like, you know, it's not like I feel like a lot of people ensure like there's there's wool, like like listen to hip hop

jact having good time. I do like unraveling the puzzle of a hip hop song. That's like I got a lot going on in it lyrically, but this those are this It's just like the flow is though, like I like the rhymes, like and it's a hard beat. It's not corny, it's weird. It's like for being is like very obviously drenched in like study of history and theory.

It's just like actually pretty listen to what I think, Like the ticket to It is like you could take his lyrics off of this song and put a less focus or less serious song on top of this, and it would still work like aurally as like a song, you know what I'm saying, Like if this is just a gangster rap song, yeah it would it would be like, oh, yeah, this as hard as yeah, he's going in, but it's like like choosing to replace that content with the content

that he's doing and it just makes it more accessible. Hard like against rap song because like the opening line, he says communists as Bolsheviks stabbing czz are because nobody should have the right to be to exploit communists as day labors occupying the land, collectivising and dreaming of dead duchess like for real, like yeah, we're about to order the monarchs, like yo, shout out cha, Marks Lenin grandpo members Jose Manuel uh Civil Siviano who died in a

hunger strike in prison. Yeah, and the stric is really interesting and we're talking about for a second. So I began in November of ended on February second nine one, which at the time made it the longest running one

of the longest running hunger strikes in modern history. Among the demands made by the prisoners was an end to isolation and control units, to be recognized political prisoners and to be regrouped into one prison so as to continue their political education they maintain their identity, is obviously vigorously opposed by the Spanish government, who at the time held over a thousand political prisoners. During the hunger strike in Saviano, died of heart failure due to malnutrition. Um To prolong

the hunger strike, the government force fed the prisoners. Several government officials. This is what's fucking insane, including the head one head of Present Medicine, who was in charge of force feeding, were executed during the strike by grappo. Just shit, what that's crazy. Wait, we just can't really imagine something

like that happening here. No, I mean, like for real, I can't, I mean should, I don't even I'm almost at like speechless, at a loss for words because it's just like I can't I can't even picture like any sort of conditions which this this would be the state of like American hip hop. You know what. It reminds me of an interview that mad Lib is doing recently, and he was making the point of, like, you know, all hip hop should pretty much just in terms of

what's going on in the world. He's like, all hip hop should pretty much sound like Public Enemy at this point, you know, it's like like like that's what that's what we should be tired of. We should we should be like, man, how come everybody's rapping like Public Enemy and rapping about all this serious political ship? How come to what he's having fun anymore? Like that should be the complaint the complaint. But let's hop on him over to the next one.

Juan Carlos el elbow bone. Have the name of the song? This name of the song? Yeah, uh. Sell plays of the words Bourbon, which is the name of the royal family, and bobbo, which is Spanish means idiot. Let's take a listening to this again. It's like the fucking direct nature of the ship that he's saying is crazy. I mean,

like a lot of that. He's saying specific names of like specific Spanish politicians and making like accusations I mean whether again this is just objectively like looking at whether you accusations are true or not or whatever. He's making like explicit charges against people and saying you did this, you are this, you are responsible for X. You know

what I'm saying. Yeah, So like imagine if I don't know, um no Name came out with a track like killed Joe Biden exactly exactly, like as I put myself more and more into the shoes of like I mean, do I think someone should be arrested over this? No? Do? I sort of understand why the Spanish govern I'm scared. I guess like like not giving the government a pass, but like I could totally imagine them being super frue

jab or something like. It's like fascinating because it's not like we don't talk about death in rap is it all the time, but we're talking about dying is a question. It's like we're killing each other. That's fine, But like Kime out with a song that was like I'm gonna, you know, murder people. Well, I mean you remember when we're talking about like you know, people don't rap about killing white supremacists and killing Nazis in their ship. But

I mean, like I'm not even playing. There's literally rappers who was like every song is like yo, I'm shooting up this nigga, I'm killing this nigga, I shooting nigga's grandmama's house, and it's like they got like endorsement deals open like there's literally nobody who is worried about anything. They're saying. It's like, it's fine, it's it's whatever. So much to the way the white supremacy operates, Uh, because I mean they will. I mean, as we've discussed in

various episodes, they will kill you. If they are are killing each other, they're like, then they don't mind. It's like, hey, it's all good. Is that nothing, nothing to be alarmed about. And I mean, I guess to give the government a little bit less credit, they do monitor hip hop artists for far less ship. Yeah, but unimportant jail. But the typical unimportant ship though, you know what I'm saying, Like in the in the in the grand scheme of ship.

You know what I'm saying. It's like a let's uh, we don't like this guy because five years ago he knew this guy, you know what I'm saying, and we weren't able to get him on that. So we're mad. So let's listen to his rap lyrics and if he says something, then we can hit him with some rico charges to say that he knew a person that knew a person that did something. It's quite different than Yo, what did you say about the Duchess? Yeah? Um, what's

the next track? We got one? Carlos Elbow. Definitely, the VAT is definitely a lot more lighter than the other stuff that we've heard him wrapping on. Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of like a fun funny songs how I interpret it. I mean he's going in pretty hard on the monarchy, like nad Ship, but like the lighthearted beat and like the kind of like singing background on the hook make it feel like I can see this black put this on the car and kind of like slay

but you're like, yeah, monarchy. So I found a Reddit thread of some people talking about it. Um. One person is going on about how he's making several accusations in the song that they deem to be false. And then I have another person talking about how his lyrics are horribly inflammatory and making accusations of homophobic and sexist remarks.

And then because I've read interviews with the Soil in which he talks about how like, um, you know, his crimes and he and he says, you know, like hatred of homophobia, of racism, of sexism shouldn't be a crime, like those things themselves should be a crime. How to say that does not make him you know, sexist, homophobic, but he is that that would be you know, anti oppression, at least in the way he speaks at his world view. Uh yeah, I mean this this is just some random

Reddit user. I have another person saying, um, he's the songs has lyrics about shooting cops in the head and supporting the vast terrorists, and then they're just going on about how like in Spain you can't encourage terrorists, but you know there's some people who are pushing back and they're talking about like it's a stretch to say that

that's what the song is doing. Um. I think one of the line that stands out of the song, one that got him in trouble um a couple of years ago, is um one that goes the poor go to jail. But not in Christina, although half the country want to see her on a guillotine. Christina is of one Carlos the former monarch's daughters, who was acquitted a fraud and corruption in two thousand and thirteen. I don't know if

I feel that that's a threat. If I heard somebody said that about me, I probably would feel slightly threatened. I guess like as someone that's received death threats, I feel like thinking broadly about like the things that I find threatening, having had had to like evaluate risk level of different things that have been said. Um, if someone said this to me, I'd probably be like, I'm about

this one. It's a good thing that you just said that for real, because like I didn't even think about it that way, Like I'm just like getting all cut up my feelings and ship like that. But yeah, like if if somebody sent if somebody sent your letter Earth, like you know what I mean, Like if some maga guy was, Like if some maga guy was like Mariah Parker because we all want to see her on a guillotine, Yeah,

I would, you know what I mean? Yeah, like yeah, yeah, but I want to look at look out for those guys that said that always gotten in trouble for some of the ship. Yeah, but I mean ultimately, like he just goes in on calling out the calling out the monarchy for being just you know, self centered corrupt multimillionaires.

There's second working people dry to feed like their mental wealth and all the ship like he's already Yeah, I think the personal nature of his critiques are probably the largest aspect of what landsman in trouble, not that you know, the powers that we aren't worried about his message in his politics, but I do think that like the personal nature of because you know, when when when America did have that period where like Rappers where George Bush was

saying ice Tea's name while he was running for president, you know what I mean, when ice Cube was like public enemy number one and ship like that, Like when when we were in that moment, it was like, you know, in the backdrop of like explicit personal attacks, like people were really going in personally, and that was the moment when we had So maybe that's the key, Like maybe making a vague, vague statements like capitalism or you know what I mean, like socialism is the way, isn't enough

to to push the buttons. Maybe you kind of gotta say, hey, Donald Trump Junior is a piece of ship and his breath smell like wet money. I don't know, something like that, Joe, can we please get a beat waiting a reporations when they stand it in your way? I think they better move on. We told you about the life of Pablo and the Revolution. Because your neck is what they want to go and step their boots. So they don't want you comfortable. They want you to to share futons. That's the

fascist state. No one gotta listen with the beast state, killed the body politick and every time they last ray. If that's the ship I have to hate. Treated like passion play. They could be forever, but democracy one last to day. Think it's a game until you stop in the street and somebody up to power will lock you up for tweet. The cops are drunk on their power. Give your shoving a beat foot on your neck, tell a crowd nothing to see. Damn, my name's dope knife.

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