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The GOP's New Boogeyman

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This week, Dope KNife and Linqua Franqa dive into the CRT controversy. Where does it come from and where is it going? As well, they take a good hard look at the real conditions in schools as told by Black Thought, Yasiin Bey, Propaganda and others.

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Speaker 1

You were listening to Winny on reparations and production of My Heart Radio. Hey, hey, party people, what is happening? My name is Dope Knife Franco and we are waiting on reparations. Cut us our check? So what is going on with you? Didn't you just get out of a meeting? I did? I did. We talked about redistricting. That's interesting.

I feel like it's less interesting at the local level than it is at the state and like federal but um, sort of learning the principles of you know, the Voting Rights Act and like how that must be translated into how this out of work, what different people are trying to get out of the process. It's fairly new to me because this only happens every ten years. So oh no, man, I thought it was I but yeah, just a bunch of other pretty mundane things. So that was the big one, yeah,

I mean, yeah, it's just redistricting. Redistricting is about to be like a big I mean I'm not that it's not a big issue now, but it's about to show its weight coming up soon in the elections, right, Yeah, I for sure it will probably make a big difference in some places. Um, the Republicans will try everything possible

to fuck working people and brown people and black people. Um, which is why it's it was like so interesting and yet so frustrating to discuss redistricting here because what we're discussing is the local commission maps that we wanted to send to the state legislature to ask for approval. Like, hey, we did this work to figure out how to redistrict

here you go. You know, we have this intimate knowledge of our own community, and this is what we think to happen, and you know what they're gonna do, Like they're gonna just ignore the ignore, completely ignore it, and find some way to screw people over. Um. Like I've talked through a lot of the nightmare scenarios in which

they could possibly just turn. They could just renumber the districts and make it so that every all the incumbents, everyone currently representing these people it's no no longer live in the district number that they are, which means that everyone who just got elected would have to fight for reelection in the spring. Like they could just do that and screw everyone if they wanted to. And so it was just like, wow, this is fascinating and also so

useless because no, they're not gonna listen to us. Where the concept of redistrict can come from. So it's to get the districts back into within I think ten of each other so that everyone is representing, you know, so that let's say, um, here, I'm my district gained three

thousand people and maybe another district lost three thousand people. Um, And so that means fewer people are getting represented by one person in one area where I whereas I have to represent more people in another area, which means their vote counts less technically because they're represented by the same amount the one person people. Yeah, I think I'm explaining this terribly. And so it's getting the districts back in

alignment so everyone has equal representation. People in one district one representative four d fifty or fourteen thousand and fifty in another one representative. So getting the maps back into shape so that everyone has equal representation supposedly, um, but there's a lot of tricky ways to do that where you can break up I mean, you're technically not supposed to break up minority communities like literally the Rights Acts

as you're not supposed to do. But if you can get technically not supposed across the street when the lights were at exactly exactly, yes, exactly, technically not's supposed to smoke weed. However, I don't know how we're still beholden some of these like archaic weirdo rules that were made like a hundred and fifty years ago that totally don't apply to the modern world. And like that, I mean, yeah, the Second Amendment. You know, I'm not I'm definitely sure.

I'm not the first person to suggested, but I don't know. Maybe like every like fifteen years, we should go look at all that ship and kind of reconsider what we need or what we don't need and what needs to be checked. The Senate the most democratic institution, like codified in law, like what and here we still are, Oh imagine, please don't let me die in the climate induced fire. And then you know, I don't know, on the board

of me. Yeah, something out quick, because like you said, the Republicans are definitely going to use that ship to their advantage. Speaking of to NS using stuff to their advantage, It's kind of like what we're gonna be talking about today. So last week's election results seem to have like the whole Democratic Party and a little bit of disarray. Republicans claimed all statewide offices in Virginia, and they were likely Yeah,

they took all of them all for election. I made yeah, sorry, sorry, okay, No, it's fine, yah. I mean because it's equally possible that the ones that were not weren't up for re election. They went and like, it's looking like they're going to take control of the state's delegates to um. Two of those races. Two of those races are pretty tighten or in recount right now, but it's looking like they're going to get that. They gave a scare to uh New

Jersey Governor Phil Murphy. Um. That one didn't get called to like the next day and by much dinner margin. Yeah, being a little nervous about that one, but you pulled it off. Um. So not. You know, like anyone who's been following the in particular the Virginia election, you know, at the near the tail end of that, the election kind of took a turn. I think there was like

a something stupid. There was like a like twenty or thirty point swing or something like that where mcculloff was up by like ten points and then over the course of like a week and then it was down by ten,

you know what I mean. And it kind of centered around the whole concept of critical race theory, which is the academic legal concept that we'll get into later UM, but using that in kind of having a laser focus, almost droning approach to hammering that in critical race theory, critical race theory, they're gonna be teaching that in school. Critical race theory workness is bad. Critical race theory workness

is bad. He managed to get you know, white people to get into a little bit of a race panic over weird black stuff being taught to their kids in the school. Suff new name of this pot Cats Actually we're branding UM now in the wake of all of this. You know, you know how like whenever these motherfucker's be losing elections, they like to do the whole campaign autopsy

the same. So they've you know, like you've been having Democratic operatives and other elected officials and they've they've been looking back at what's been going on, and their conclusion is not that Terry McCullough uh fed into the fake debate about critical race theory and wokeness and didn't concentrate on a strong economic message, and they're there. Their conclusion is not that Joe Biden and the Senate and the House didn't give politicians like Democrats like Terry McCullough anything

to really run on other than Trump is bad. Trump is bad. So they're they're can inclusion is that it is critical race theory. And you know, even more broader than that and more vague wokeness, the concept of wokeness there. That is what there wanting to attribute blame for their losses last week too, is the concept of wokeness, that Democrats are being too woke, that the left has a wokeness issue. So that's what we're gonna be talking about today.

We're gonna talk about critical race theory, wokeness, what it is, what it isn't, and how the right wing is using both to essentially radicalize half the country and a lot of smart people to a lot of people that you think are smart that you might hear them talk about wokeness like it's an actual, like like a thing like at the issue. You know, that's that's something that's got

me shocked. But we're gonna we're gonna get into that and more after the joke, all right, we're back, and so let's talk a little bit about First of all, let's let's let's set the record straight about what critical race theory is UM and a little of where it's where it's resurgence and repackaging as this boogeyman um has come from. So critical race theory I've started a little

bit in graduate school. It's like a framework of analysis and an academic movement of civil rights scholars activists who seek to examine the intersection of race and law in the United States and challenge mainstream American liberal approaches to racial justice UM that examine social, cultural, and legal issues. Keeywere legal issues primarily as they relate to race and

racism United States. And the maintenance of CRT is that racism and disparate racial outcomes are the results of complex, changing and often subtle social and institutional dynamics, rather than explicit and intentional prejudices of individuals per Wikiediam. But so

it's like it's about the law. It's about upholding of these systems of its institutions that give rise to disparate racial outcomes rather than like Kyle in fifth grade called me an African beast when I held the door open forehand, which is a growth thing that happened, but like critical race theory actually looks at more of the institutional systemic

causes and effects. So it's very important that we started it off with that, because what Mariah just read is the very first paragraph on the Wikipedia page for critical race theory. Pay attention to like that last bit when it says that UM racism and disparate racial outcomes are the result of complex, changing and often subtle social and

institutional dynamics rather than explicit, intentional prejudices of individuals. Now, if you ask any right winger in the country right now, like what is critical race theory, why is it bad? And what is your problem with it? They literally would

tell you the opposite of what it says. What the Wikipedia, they're trying to paint it as this, as this thing is like a critical race theory is about UM saying pretty much critical they're a little bit like to paint a caricature that critical race theory is about UM streaming about racism all the time and saying that people are racist and know this person is racist and that's racist, and that's racism. You should feel bad as a personal

individual for racism when like literally little people. Really I'm not saying that's that is a separate issue, that's like a separate discussion, but like the actual thing that critical race theory is like literally like it says a tenant is that it's not about like putting like the onus of racism on the personal actions of people, and it's

more about the systems and stuff like that. So the way it's codified into law, on the way the law is enacted, um, and there's like this, yeah, this institute I used this term too much, this institutional inertia of like the way things were is the way things people always do things and the way things will always be. So if it was like constructed by racist people hundreds of years ago, the systems they set up, or that you know what we were talking about the Senate earlier.

We're talking about all of these arcane legal institutions that we still live by. And it's like, though that, let's look at that. Let's look at that instead of like a little timmy, hate yourself. Why don't you You're five years old. You should have learned to hate yourself by

this point. Yeah, So okay, So I wanted to to put a little like historical context on not only like how CRT is being used right now, but also how this pertains to the results of the election in Virginia, and just historical trends with regards to the swing from

the left to the right that I have noticed. I mean, I've only lived there tears in this world, but for my entire life, every time there's a been a Democratic elected, the NXT person is a Republican, and then they get reelected, and then it is a Democrat again, it gets relaxed and then's Republican and so um, like I think maybe, I mean, and maybe people who have not touched upon this have more historical context than I and that's why

the time can come up. But I haven't seen enough people saying that this is just how the swing goes. Democrats take power, Republicans freak the funk out, and anger is such a motivating emotion, Like anger is such a motivating emotion to go out and vote. And so the Republicans are angry at the Democrats right now because they don't hold power. So they come out and drove and they elect someone like Glenn Yonkan or whatever the fund is. It's glenniuncan right, Youngcan sounds like I don't know, he

belongs to the Lollipop Guild or some ship. But so it's just like, of course this would happen, like this always happens. I don't know what you're trying to. Oh, you're in CRT. Oh it's wokeness. Oh we went too far left. Oh there wasn't economic message, Like, no, you just can't beat people who are angry. And we're not angry right now because we're in power. We are the Democrats are in power, so no one's angry, so they

don't come out and vote. That's one historical trend that I think applies to the situation, and I think it's correct. I just I think that I think if we were just talking about CRT, like if CRT was the only thing, then I would agree with that. But I think that the broader concept of wokeness is what makes the whole situation a lot more insidious and potentially like dangerous and vibly. But well, we'll get into that later on. What was

the next thing you're gonna say? So the next thing I was gonna say is that this is not the first time that dog whistles haven't used to reclaim the moral high ground. Um, you know, for reactionaries to reclaim the moral high ground and repackage white supremacy and racism in a way that's latable to the people in suburbs, so they can keep doing the same project that they've

been doing since Jim Crow. CRT is now being used as a dog, which was all much like law and order was being used by Reagan in the nineteen sixties. It was a response to white fears about losing their status in the racial order and to ensure continued subjugation of people of color. They couldn't come out and say we hate the niggers anymore. And even there's there's the documentation of like politicians at the time saying that like, well, you can't call go around and call people the in word,

so what are we gonna do? So what they did was start focusing on cracking down on crime and reinstating law and order as a coded way to talk about people of color. And so at the time the civil rights movement had gained the moral of her hand on conservatives. They had marched the streets there, you know, we're on the news stations getting beaten in fire host and attacked by dogs, and sudden people were like, maybe racism is bad. So conservatives had to make up a way to reframe

things in order to make white superman see attractive. So they started talking about locking up criminals. What do they made by criminals black people? Um talking about cleaning up our streets? What's the trash on the streets black people?

And and you know what ultimately came out of that is it was so effective the Democrats then took on the same framing of you know what, I'm gonna be tougher than the Republicans on crime if that's why you had the crime bill in next any four passed under Bill Clinton's administration to be like, oh, we can play

that game too. Which is the part of the story that I'm not sure how this is going to turn out, because Okay, the same thing happened George Floyd uprising last summer, Republicans and Conservatives concreasingly losing their footing and arguments for upholding racism in the face of video footage of black people getting murdered, and so conservatives had to find a new fight teaching about racism in schools. So here we are, um,

it remains to be seen. How I mean, like, I think we could speak somewhat to the way that the left has responded to the UM. I yeah, polling for the Virginia election has definitely I mean, you know, take polls, take poles as you want them, but I mean, from a polling perspective, the ship is working. And and like if like, if you have a concern about democratic electoral politics, then yeah, you should be scared because it's looking like it's gonna be a blood bath that probably gonna gonna

take over everything. And it does seem like these you know, two people like us what seemed like ridiculous you know, ridiculously argued cultural issues. It's working on people, on a lot of people. Here's what I have to say about the polling is that up in the two that's since seen election, everyone thought Hilly Clinton was gonna win because

the polling showed that she had the most support. And it has been surmised that that was the case because conservatives were because of their distry, institutions, and perhaps even embarrassment about supporting Donald Trump. We're not responsive to polls now.

We are in an era I might guess where Republicans feel like they have been validated because everyone's feel like in my premast and Baptists feel like they have been validated by the Trump administration, like, oh, we're the silom majority, and so perhaps now in the polls they are more comfortable with speaking their opinion. They think it's more important

to speak out about how they really feel. But well, um, because they think that they are the majority, perhaps they trust the institutions more in that they had institutional power for four years, and so maybe that's what we're seeing and like, oh, it's working. Like well, maybe people are saying they're scared of CRT, but they weren't saying that they're going to vote for Donald Trump at that's sixteen and something has changed with regards to how they are

responding to inquiries into their political beliefs. Possibly, I don't know. Again, I think the CRT is just like the CRT is just like a specific aspect of it. Though, like, for example, all right, so um, along with the rush for them to change all these voting laws and stuff like that, the Republicans have been doing the same feverish work on local and federal level for the last year. Getting this brought this vague concept of what they interpret critical race

theory to be. They've been working feverishly to get books banned, to get curriculums changed, to get fanatics in in Q and on weirdos elected to school boards and stuff like that. They've been working hard to do all of this ship and I just think that there's like a more insidious reason why than the the usual same old like dynamics that that that have been playing out for the hundred years some so Republican rep. Steve toth Um is an

example of like where Republicans are going with this. So he was I wanted to respond to something you do said, because I think the CRT panic has an interesting parallel with the abolitionist movement that you know really took off, had been seated for decades, but like really took off last summer, and that abolitionists consider how we plant seeds that grow into a society where we don't depend on police in prisons. We know that world is not going

to happen overnight. Another election result that came out last week was you know, Minneapolis voting down a measure to um abolish and created abolished a police department and create a new agency. Like you know, it's we we're not gonna win tomorrow, but like, if we start seeding these ideas, one day, we can create that world. Why I think this is a parallel to CRT is that perhaps they are seeing that we can reclaim the social order if

we make sure kids don't learn about racism. And if those kids don't learn about racism, they will grow up to not to stop fighting. They can't fight racism. I don't know how it has been enacted historically, and so the same idea of seating, the seating, the planning the necessary seeds for a world that continues to be racist,

And you're one that's exactly what I'm getting at. And I think that you know, I think unfortunately, because they're they're able to link the stuff in with this other vague term of wokeness and what that means, I think that they're being more successful in these ideas than in

the past. So so yeah, I mean, like like you mentioned, um, like corporatist Democrats are already seizing onto oh we were too woke, taking on their framing and the same way the Democrats previously were like, oh no, we can be tougher on crime but let's all the people. Even that is just like a cultural I mean, even that's like

a political thing. Like if you just look at from a cultural standpoint, how many how many uh like athletes or celebrities or rappers and musicians or comedians especially do we hear now talking about woke? Oh I hate woke, woke woke? This this thing is woke. The fucking quarterback Aaron Rodgers in football got caught lying about his vaccination status. He told everybody that he was vaccinated when he wasn't really vaccinated. When they found out that he wasn't vaccinated,

do you know what he said? I see that I'm getting canceled by the woke mob. You see what I mean? It's like this is like there, this is their opportunity to have something that they can sweep everything that they don't like into that shuts down the conversation and that can trick otherwise I guess I don't say, well attention,

but otherwise gullible people into their ship. So like you know, they're they all of these Republicans are bringing up Martin Luther King now when they're talking about it, so about pursuit of banning books in Texas. Um, you got this Republican rep. Steve Toth And he said, Um, this book band is what he's saying. It echoes Dr King's wish that we should judge people on the content of their character, not the color of their skin. Critical race. I hear

a single other Conservatives this line. Okay, go on, He said, critical race theory is a Marxist doctrine that rejects the vision of Martin that they're King. Now, what did there Martin Luther King back in the communist and of Marxist because he was critical of capitalism. This is about this is about changing the direction of ship. This is like

a long term game. And I mean it, it's just like I just I just think that because I know how many people who I think are cool or who I think are smart, who have like a good head on their shoulders, that I find myself talking to them about political things, and these motherfuckers bring up wokeness like a if wokeness was an issue, that it even cracks like the top hundred of stuff that motherfucker's need to be worried about is it's just simply not a thing.

So the fact that they're successfully like roping in a lot of people to think of. I mean, like, look, if you want to be like, which Democratic politician was running about critical race theory? Any well, they can sweep it into the same category as anyone talking about race. But yeah, but so all of them, all of them theoretically. But I mean the same way with that, the same way that no elected democratic politicians that I could think of, besides for like three is out here, like running on

the platform of defund the police. That's something the activists are doing. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, So like that's what I mean is like Democrats are framing they're framing themselves into a box. Republicans are hammering it in and and people are eating it up. But what Democrat, even Terry McCullough who lost the election, which Democrats platform is we need critical race theory in every school. But that's what will be interesting moving forward is how people explain.

And this is something that think is interesting about. Yeah, what debate this force is It may force a debate, like it may force Democrats to articulate what they think should be taught in schools because those question is getting

brought up. I've what's already seen, friends, of mine have been running for elect at office at the local level, who are getting asked who you know, are known to be progressives, who are getting asked about people race theory, and rather than duct the question, which I honestly think it's the better thing to do, um, they're like, Wow, this is what I think should be taught in schools, and I think this is going to become increasingly common unfortunately.

But it's like, what like Rhodes Bridges, like the Pentagon, Can we fucking like the medicare for all? Like can we talk about something like let's leave us to the Department of Education, let's leave this local school district. But no congress people and say House representatives and all are gonna get roped into this because you've already seen you can't knock results though, because again you know, it's it's it's just a matter of it's just a matter of

like priorities. I guess this is what Republicans care about, So it really doesn't matter, like, you know, the same way that us on the left half stuff that we care about. So it doesn't matter whether or not Republicans care that we care about those things, because we do. And that's exactly what this situation is. It doesn't matter that we want to talk about roads and bridges, because

Republicans want to talk about this. Now, I'm not saying that that means that we need to like concentrate our ship to them talk about this, but we need to know what motivates them and what what is their motivating factors because it'll let us be prepared for the different things that they're gonna try, you know, in the future coming up. But I'm telling you, they have successfully wrapped up this critical race theory wokeness thing, and now everything

is woke. Everything is critical race theory. So it's like the next time you watch watch, the next time that there's a video of a cop stepping on somebody's fucking neck for eight minutes, when you say, oh, that's bad, there's gonna be someone who's gonna say, why are you being woke? Yeah, that's critical race theory. Yeah, that that's that's the that's the project that's at play here, That's what they're trying to create, because it's all about projection.

You know how Republicans always say, oh, you guys always say that everything is racist because it shuts down conversation it's because they want to have something they can say to shut down conversations about race. Ye know what I'm saying. So if they can sweep everything up into wokeness in critical race theory, you know, and and and because we've got so many fucking stupid people around, I just fear

that it's going to work. How many people have you heard use the term woke and cancel culture in relation to the Dave Chappelle conversations. You know what I'm saying, Dave Chappelle himself, I'm constructating against wokeness w wloa blah blah blah. This is the path that like people are following, like like check check this out right, Um, these are

just like a runoff some of the headlines. Okay, wait before we get to that, I would like to so I want to go back to my point about Democrats having to defend their position on what they think kids should be caught in school. I want to read you this quote, and I want you to tell me if this was said by a Democrat or Republican. We will teach all history, the good and the bad. America is the greatest country on the planet. We know it. We have an amazing history, but we also have some dark

and imporn chapters. We must teach them all. We can't know where we're going unless we know where we come from. Who said that? I mean it sounded super American, exceptionally so I'm good at guess a Republican. But it could have been this was. This was a quote from Glenn yon Kin's final campaign rally in Loudon County in Virginia. The next part of it, but like it does, Okay, it does have to American sexual sexualism? Is it in it?

Because he says America's the greatest country on earth? But we will teach all history, the good and the bad. His next like part, Let me be clear. What we want do. What we won't do is teach our children to viewer everything through a lens embrace, where we divide them into buckets. One groups an oppressor and another groups of victims, and we put them against each other and we steal their dreams. We will not be a commonwealth of dream stealers, will be a commonwealth of dream enablers

and builders. We know it's not right. We're all created equal, and we're trying so hard to live up to those immortal words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Who implored us to be better than we are, to judge one another on what the content of our character, not the color of our skin. So let me be clear, on day one, we will not have political agenda's in the classroom, and I will ban critical race theory. I mean, there

you go. So I'm just saying that it becomes like the once you once you seed seed ground to like their framing that critical race theory is bad, the vocus is bad. This is this is the word salad that we get from both sides of the aisle. Probably, I just don't think that it's limited to being in the

realm of politics. And I think culturally, I think that the way that this is playing out culturally is affecting how it's playing out politically, because I just I just think that there's there's more people than we're willing to admit whose brains are temporarily turned into mashed potatoes and they're like waking up in a cold sweat at night, like,

oh my God, woken us. And I think I think your example about Dave Chappelle's perfect for this because ostensibly left leaning people um did wait didn't hear what that's saying that Anald Trump. It was it was a joke. It was a joke. Okay, he said that we should give Donald Trump a chance. But so maybe I'm giving him too much credit. Ostensibly five years have you heard Dave Chappelle say anything bad about Donald Trump. I'm gonna take you back. But I started to say, I'm gonna

take it back. Cut this from the episode. Just kidding, don't really, but like I'm taking it back. I mean, I'm just I'm just I'm honestly asking because like, the only conservative figure that I know, specifically Dave Chappelle has gone after has been Candice Owens. Now, I wonder what it is about Candice Owens takes her different from other conservative popular conservative figures that Dave Chappelle felt comfortable going after her and not the other one. Could it be

that she's black and a woman. That's how it feels to me. Because Stephen Crowder has chilling Dave probably say ship down in a certain way, yeah, Ben Chapelle's chilling Dave Chappelle and said ship Yeah. Nick Quentez is chilling with Schlastika is behind him talk about pably. They probably say ship, so you know, just just just generally and then and then who is the Chappelle on tour with or who is he on tour with last week with Joe Rogan? Who is the king of wokeness? Is the

worst issue in America right now? If we let cancel culture go on, then the lock white men in their houses? How's this? So people that are either coated as ostensibly left wing because they are black, like Dame Chappelle, or people that you know in their media um purport like an open mindedness like Joe roganhead Bernie Sanderson's podcast, as well as sucking Elon Musk. You know, he's not he's

not like explicitly partisan. So these people seating the ground. Two, the framing that wokeness is bad is a part of like that same historical trajectory that we've been on with, you know, with like quote unquote like left at least nonpartisan figures like going along with the far right framing of something to seem like, oh, I'm not one of those ridiculous you know, pronouns and bio like bitches like well, I'm I'm cool because like instead of giving a substantive

argument from why you stand for what you stand for if you stand for it, which they don't really check out these headlines. But let's get into from the aftermath, right, So, okay, New York Post James Carville blames stupid wokeness for DEM's week, showing h is a problem and we all know it. That's from box Um. Democrats go to war over wokeness. That's the hill. And then here's the interesting one. New York Times columnists Mareen Dowd warrens wokeness could derail the Democrats.

That's from Fox News. Now, why is Fox News favorably covering Maureen Dowd of the New York Times over the top of like why are they why are they joining for the topic of wokeness is bad? I'm it indicates yeah, they're giving their like we're giving them fodder for further accelerating their campaign a white supremacy. Great job, New York Times.

Where Republicans going with all this right that that's I guess that's at the end of the day, that's what you when we're talking about all this uh critical race theory and wilkness, like what is the reason? You know? And then what was it before this? They were talking about how, oh, we want to cancel Dr SEUs. You'll remember that that was like five or six months ago.

You're the canceling Dr SEUs and Dr Seuss books, and this is gonna be the end of Western civilization because you know, they didn't want to have that black face picture of the Dr SEUs drew that one time. And anyway, I think that the the overall conservative project can be summed up in uh somewhere within the essay essay Who's Afraid of Critical Race Theory? By Derek A. Bell. Right, So, and this is an essay that Derek came about. Who do you do you? Uh yeah, Derek School, Yeah, yeah.

So he wrote this. He wrote this essay ninety four called Who's Afraid of Critical Race Theory? And the whole thing is a response to a book by a guy named Charles Murray, a book that he wrote in ninety four called The Bell Curve. So the Bell Curve essentially he Charles Murray, who's genesis is racist. He the point that he was trying to make in the Bell Curve.

I have mentioned it a little bit last week, but he's trying to make the point that i Q and intelligence is something that is based in race, and the pigmentation in your skin affects the size of your brain and your brain's ability to retain knowledge in YadA, YadA, YadA. And it came out ninety four, and it had a bunch of people who were praising it, and you had a bunch of people who were condemning it, and anyone

wonder why. In response to just the Hooplah, Derek Bell wrote this article, I'm just gonna read you this past. You read them this past. Yeah for it, Okay, sorry for the past. Through four months, a great deal of attention and energy has been devoted to commending or condemning,

condemning way SI. For the past three or four months, a great deal of attention and energy has been devoted due commending and condemning Mr Charles Murray and the late doctor Richard Hernstein, authors of the best selling book on racial intelligence, The Bell Care. This book suggests great social policy significance in the fact that black people score on

average fifteen points below whites on i Q tests. This thesis has been criticized as the rehashing of views long ago are rejected by virtually all virtually all experts in the field there is critics maintain no basis for a finding that intelligence is inherited, and indeed no accepted definition of the term intelligence. There is, on the other hand, of depressingly strong and invariant correlation between resources and race in this country and resources and success, including success on

taking i Q tests. These are settled facts. Even so, the book has enjoyed an enormous success that its critics find difficult to explain. Stephen J. Gould, for example, rights the Bell Curve, with its claims and supposed documentation that race and class differences are largely caused by genetic factors and are therefore essentially immutable, contains no new arguments and presents no compelling data to support its anachronistic social Darwinism.

So I can only conclude a success and winning attention. It must reflect the depressing temper of our time, a historic moment of impressed, unprecedented, ungenerous, unprecedented un generosity. When a mood for slash and social program can be powerfully embedded by an argument that beneficiaries cannot be helped owing two inboard cognitive limots expressed as low i Q scores, and I feel that in that you have the whole

game right there? Who who? Okay? So you know, and again I just got to bring it back to the cultural aspect of it. We all know how I mentally I don't think any of this ship is a coincidence.

We know how mentally popular figures like Joe Rogan are right, Okay, what is something Joe Rogan spent two or three years in the last five years with like the main theme of his show, the main topic, the main the main like subject of intellectual curiosity that Joe Rogan wanted to talk about between the years sen and on his show is Charles Murray's Bell curve theory. Real talk, Real talk, Dad,

I know all that them dead asked. That is like, like Joe Rogan, in the past like five years, Joe Rogan has had like seventeen guests to talk specifically about this, framing it all in the manner of the only reason that people don't want us to talk about this, or the only reason that people are saying that this is racist is because they're woke. Because it's cancel culture. It's

woke cancel culture. If it wasn't for woke PC politically correct cancel culture, then you guys wouldn't be afraid to talk about how the negro skull is, you know what I'm saying, like like like this this, this is like they're his main thing, right. It's like I think that the reason that they're going off about this wokenus and this critical race theory ship the reason why I'm watching

a fucking Marvel movie. And there's a scene in the Marvel movie where a black character gets stopped by a cop, and then the internet blows up with these talking trolls and goblins talking about why is it so woke? What you have a scene where a black guy got stopped by a cop, or even having black people or Asian people or like Hispanic people in film. Yeah, like adversity of casting is like woke. I've been I've been seeing all these I've been seeing all of these commercials with

these interracial relationships. Y'are doing a good job. I see that ship. But that's what they're considering woke. Like, so so while you have like you've got like you know, like the point that you're making with the Democratic politicians who kind of want to use this and adopt the language too, they're using it to wrap things up in their language. Of what they deemed to be progressive politics.

All right, So when James Carville says the Democrats have a wokenness issue, he's talking about Medicare for all, and that's what he's sweeping into wokenus because he thinks he's slick. When the Republicans are talking about woken us and ship like that, they're essentially talking about anything having to do

with black people. But the funny thing to me, the funny thing to me is that a lot of what they're talking about, it's like diversity initiatives and big corporations and like statements they issue about how they stand with Black Lives matter, which themselves are bullshit. They don't do anything. Um, they are cover for actually white supremacist structures which they

don't actually want to challenge. But that's but that's woke, and some people are becoming embarrassed to even engage and what is otherwise already performative allyship quote unquote, But I mean,

but this is like, uh, that's what I think. Is is something important for people on the left to pay attention to, though, because like this, like this has been a long ongoing project, Like conservatives have a vested interest in separating black people from their allies, whether those allies be through authentic, genuine allies, whether those allies be potential allies, or even if it's superficial performative ally ship there's conservatives have a vested interest in making sure that nobody on

the left trust each other and that we're in fighting and fighting each other. That YadA YadA, YadA YadA, all that separation is going. Yeah, And I want to highlight again this final line in the Derek A. Bell quote. When a mood for slashing social programs can be powerfully embedded by an argument that beneficiaries cannot be helped is what they are trying to seed. The continuation of it is directly correlated to data and historical understanding about UM

racism as it has been perpetuated and perpetrated in this country. UM. Ignoring that as an argument for slashing social programs like medicare like snap or TIM like education that won't get into shortly about you know how this has been addressed

in hip hop like that is what they want. That is the status quo that they're trying to maintain by not teaching people about racist because you don't if you don't know about the history of racism, then why why do we need social programs for uplift for people that have been historically discriminated against? What historical discrimination? It's fine, it's the cliche of anything you know, like you, if

you don't know history, you're doomed to repeat it. There's a reason why they're telling teachers to teach two sides of the Holocaust. I there's a there's a reason why they want to ban fucking Tony Morrison books. You know what I mean. You know that they're the the you know, the Texas the Texas Republicans. They have a list of eight hundred and fifty books that they're combing through. The band stuff that's like innocent stuff, and they can't even describe to you what the thing that they have a

problem is. So before we get into the music discussion, I'm just gonna give a little bit of advice to anybody, any of my UH debaters out there. If you ever find yourself in any sort of position where you have to talk about this, I would suggest that you don't yet, because the Republicans are not coming at it from any sort of genuine place. But if you must, I would say that you simply just ask them to define what woke is when they're talking about it. You know what

I'm saying, Just ask them what is woke? And then if they don't want to answer that, give them some examples and tell them to tell you whether or not that's woke or not, because, like, just like straight up, since everybody wants to mention them, is Martin Luther King woke? Uh? If if Martin was stofice hearing that question, I'm asking by their definition, like the people who are you using Martin Luther King's name essentially to like speak out against

the vague concept of wokenus. So I would ask them if Martin Luther King were a twenty year old activists right now on TikTok. You know what I'm saying, Like, would you call him woke? Honestly? You know what, I ain't trying to like be like this. However, probably not. We didn't have We didn't There wasn't really integration of like the gay liberation movement into what he was doing at the time, which I think is a large part of what people call woke. It's like, what do you

mean that there respect someone's pronouns? What do you mean, a transgender woman is a woman, like I don't know if like you literally picked him okay and dropped him into I don't know if you'd be on the ship. I mean maybe with a couple of months, he'd be like, oh, this is a cool thing that we should for it. Yeah, like that, But I don't think that it's I don't

think you will consider him. I think I think the racial aspect of wokeness is way way stronger and more attributed with with it than the I think he would ask me similarly, disagree that diversity statements and um, like you know, pr campaigns about how we stand with black lives from Amazon or whoever would be like authentically anti racist, and so in that way, he probably would not be seen as woke. But I it's also the most ridiculous conversation for I know, I mean, I think it's an

important conversation. You gotta understand, right, Like, we live in a world where there's like an actual like debate right now amongst millions of people as to whether or not the next Matrix movie will be good because the trailer makes it look woke. You feel me like there's motherfucker's like really talking like, man, did you see that there's like a main character that's Asian and the matrix is the is the matrix woke? Now you feel like how

like like how insidious that that that's used? It's like literally anything you know, like when you when you have conversations with a political people and like you talk about anything even remotely serious and like what do you always got to talk about politics? Man? You know, if anybody said that to me, I know that's what I'm about that. I well, unfortunately the people feel that way and see me coming there like, oh, I gotta go, I gotta go real quick, y'all. But I mean, essentially that's what

it is, right. I just I just foresee I foresee like a short amount of time coming up. I don't think it would it will take that long to radicalize people like this, but I can foresee a future where, oh, there's a story that came out where such and such was the cues they're sexually harassing this many women. The only reason you guys have problems with that is because you're woke. PC. Oh this story came out where we just so the cops shoot a black kid while paling Hitler.

The only reason you guys care about that is because you're woke. You're woke PC critical race theory, will caps culture. Ye. Hey, I think that we should pass this social program because this marginalized group is in YadA YadA position. The only reason you want to help those people because you're woke. PC cup lipt heard cancel culture. You know. It's it's like it's it's not a good spot to be in.

And I mean to your point, maybe because they successfully have been able to convince black people that when they're talking about wokenness, that they're talking about annoying internet people with blue hair. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But in actuality, what they're talking about is, hey man, whenever these fucking niggers say that they should have uh their job opportunities, tell them to stop being woke. Right, That's that's what they talk about. They don't want to RG

in schools. They mean, they don't want black teachers, no one about history. They don't want black children. But they can't say that anymore. They're they're not they're not even hiding it though, yo, Like I mean, I saw a report that Vice did not too long ago, where they were interviewing one of those critical race theory crusaders and stuff like that. And I mean, this guy is sitting on knowing what like five cameras on them, unboxed, openly talking about like yeah, well, you know when I say

critical race theory, what we really mean is multiculturalism. We gotta get rid of that. You know what I'm saying. Um, anything that's talking about equity, Um, we need to get that out of out of the vernacular and involved blah. Anything that talks about social responsibility, we need to take that. Like I mean, they're saying it open in those terms.

So I just I just I'm you know, like I said, when I see otherwise cool people, or not even otherwise cool people, when I see people that, like I used to I think we're cool, like you know, the the Dave Chappelle's and the Bill Maher's of the world and ship like that, and the Glenn Greenwalts. You know, it's

like I'm I'm knowing. You know, I'm not the smartest cat in the world, but it's like, I'm sure that I could come up with a comprehensive lists of problems that the country that black people, that the left, I could come up with a list of problems that we got in whether or not people care too much about

marginalized groups. That's like the problem because that's what woken said, you know what I mean, Like in a nutshell, that's what it is like when when a politics when a politician or political operative says you should stop being woke. Democrats should stop being woke. That's what they mean. It's like, hey, you guys, the next George Floyd, how about you guys just like you know, be chill, be chill about it, feel about it, don't don't talk about it too much

because that's critical race theory, cancel culture woke Liptard. Yeah, so we gotta be careful you. But don't don't listen to these funny style niggas man these these days Chappelle Diggs, you know, like like like your wokeness is not on your top two hundreds of things that you should be worried about, and these niggas telling you that it's cat, It's carry up, it's cat. Before we transition into the

music section, two things I would like to say. First of all, when Martin Luther King Jr. Was assassinated on the April four, he was in the midst of uniting the white and black working classes to rise up to demand a federal job guarantee, which today is now being you know, carried forth by folks like Brine Sanders. Hence democratic socialism of Martin Luther King something people talk about. And so I bring this up because what this really is,

what this whole CRT thing is about. I mean, as much you nailed it, but what underneath it is a desire to divide the black and white working classes so they fight each other instead of fighting capitalism. So figuring out some kind of wedge of trying to tell white people that teachers are trying to make their kids feel bad stokes racial animosity, so they don't feel that empathy that they feel when they watch George Floyd get his neat his neck knelt on for eight minutes. You know,

that feeling you feel. They're trying to like pull them back from that, like no, no, no, no no, I empathize to those people, fear them. And this is why and how um the other thing I wanted to touch upon I forgot. So let's get into the netubes. I'm sorry, I talked too much. No, I talked too much. I can I Yeah, and I've had some drink. All right, we're gonna get to the music discussion right after the job.

I we back, were back, and you know, I sat out today to find some examples of um music that touches upon the content of what they are really teaching people in school in the in in how it has been, how it does manifest and hip hop music. But interestingly, more often than not, what you will actually find in terms of commentary about our education system is that folks aren't engaging with it at all, for reasons I will discuss. There is one example what that I thought was interesting

in Let's see what was it? So in Remi's education featuring resident children in the world pointing on much I don't want to Riza so like this is like him talking to his teacher about how they don't teach the true history. They tell us about Columbus, but they don't tell us about how slaves built America, talk about, oh,

the Dark Age has happened. They don't explain why we don't know a lot about it, and they certainly don't talk about how these things correlate with the conditions we are seeing today the average college kids stuck with all wages, hence students walking around with twelve cages. So I really touching upon the inadjeclacy of the content that is being taught,

like actually being taught in schools at least at this time. Well, I mean, you know, it's like and this is just the this is like the reactions to stuff that's omitted, like the stuff that's not taught, you know what I mean, Like, imagine what we're looking at when literal disinformation is being taught. Right, So they're trying to say, oh, crt sus, No, they

literally are teaching us black history. Actually, if they did, then like it's like almost like a defensive like a like a like a no, it's like an offensive they're teaching like the actual full history of the country itself. I didn't learn about June Team until I was an adult. I didn't learn about Unto until I was adult. Like when I'm straight up, I did not know, oh the slaves or free Lincoln was such a great person like

all that. I did not learn like so much about the history of our country until I just sawed it out myself as an adult. And roslet's call this out like you did. What they are to us to said, oh fortunity do Columbus south the ocean blue, and then everything was fucking lit for the Indians until suddenly they're all dead. I don't know how that happened, et cetera, especially not teaching us how this is now linked with

the condition to that we are living to today. But otherwise in music, they pretty much just talked and they like talk about how fucking school was boring, which but particularly I just found a lot of references to the link between like disaffection with schooling and incarceration, which gets back to what I was saying a little bit earlier, is that how another thing this whole debate is trying to distract from is like we don't distruct them, but it's like, oh, srually is bad. Oh one of cheading

in schools is bad as like a front for defunding education. Yeah, because that's how they then create the conditions in the community where they have enough crime that they can make excuses for incarcerating scores and scores of African Americans. I mean, I think that like the things that we the things that we come across and read in in things that inform us when we're like in that school age. I just think it's like way too important to be fucking

around which ship like this, ye know? And I just think of like certain things that I was exposed to just about like world history or World War two or the Space program, just learning ship shape, you know, that shaped me into the person that I am today, with the worldview that I have. And it's like when I think back of like, man, what if somebody had denied me that, What if I hadn't gotten to read that or see that when I was that age? Like what

type of person would that have turned me into? And that makes me like, yeah, it makes me shudder to think that. It's like, in fifteen years we could have a whole legion of kids that are grown up pretty much thinking that that young can blurb that you read earlier, you know what I'm saying, Like that that's the sort of ship that Again, it's like long term projects because Republicans are always trying to win, like actually win, so on a long term project, Yeah, that ship fox up

progress more than anything. And it's like they found that racket and it seems like they've got some momentum behind it. What other songs we've got so in the songs where they kind of talk about education. Largely, what I found is people talking about it's just general inadequacy, a lot of a lot to do with just the disciplinary nature

of the education system. Let's look at for example, education by Freddie gibbson Mad Live off of Freddie Gibbs and Mad Libs two thousand nineteen album Bandana Songs featuring Yasine Bay and a Black Thought fucking Killer Collapse Goddamn like the Gil Mobile crowd at the empty do School Seated

Devil twitching is it's from the strange Um. In the first verse, Yasine Bay talking about they go in one way, they come out crazy peace preparatory school and like you know, and talking about he goes on to talk about imperialism, emperors and conquerors, pharaohs, comparing them arguably to goblins and monsters um. And then in the later verse, oh, kids graduating from public schools and prisoners um, underprivileged Aboriginal indigenous talking about like the shared struggle of all people's of

color to gain representation in our curricula. And since you don't see yourself reflected in that curricula, you're like, fucking why should I go to school. And then there's there's the lyrics about like you know, I was feeling disaffected, not giving a shit about this off those obedience because like why you know, why, like why play this game? UM?

A lot of songs. I think this one included for particularly the next one we're gonna talk about um and then yeah and then and then education by remedies as well. How about education that people are instead gaining in the streets. And I bring this up because I do think we learn a lot from like our lived experience is a is a form of education where experts and a lot

of things because the things that we've lived through. And there is a um increasingly popular strand of like pedagogical theory of just like you know, education theory that says, I mean, it's not even like it came out in the nineties with like loroyal ads and billings, but like a lot of folks that you do, like I teach to my students, like you know, I teach elementary school

students and landteacher, or I teach elementary school teachers. I teaches all the times thing called culturally relevant pedagogy, where you try to find like to bring people's cultures into the classroom to make their educational experience more relevant to them, because you're harnessing the knowledge that they already have two um accommodate them to recognize what they already know, to show that it is valuable, and thereby making you know,

learning abc s and motigication tables more attractive. UM. But what's interesting, and I think contributes his conversation, is that I teach the ship to my elementary school teachers, and I learned it a lot myself, you know, in school. But this isn't really making it into public schools because they are so rigid in the same ways that pushed

people out, because there's so many regulations. It's so much like so many restrictions around what you're actually allowed to do in your own classroom, where we don't very often bring the experiences of black children, Inrodigenous children or whoever into the classroom to see so that they can see it validated and feel more affirmed by schooling. So it's like I said, I was to say, the way we teach already is inadequate. It's clearly alienating children. They don't

see themselves reflected in the classroom. They don't give a ship, they get pushed out, they end up in jail. Um and partially because schools are underfunded and schools are like seen as like pretty much this preparation for president anyways, um, which like with the CRT, shir CRT, just gives Republicans called for, like I was said earlier, to this defund education further. And in Georgia they did de funded education by a billion dollars back in two thousands and maybe

nineteen twenty billion dollars. But if they're teaching kids, well they honestly ought to be teaching kids. Um, well, while we cut their funding, we're not paying for that ship. We're not paying for kids to see themselves reflected in their curriculum, which they aren't, but let's assume they aren't. And I think I think these lyrics that kind of get into that a little bit. For the next one, though,

we got the homely propaganda. The home Propaganda Propa came on the show to talk about how police are like gangs back in the day. He's got the song Board of Education b O r E D of Education. Let's listen to it real quick. You're just testing my ability to regurgitate, and if your best instructors are miserable. I'm pretty sure it's not the kids vault. So in this he speaks somewhat to like the regimentation of the schooling that we currently receive. We sit in rows and listen

to pontifications, passing written exams, Board of Education. All I've learned from your system is the fact that it's just a system, um testing my ability to regurgitake just speaking to like how disciplinarian schooling currently is, and like I can't overstate it. It really is just getting kids ready for prison. Of like someone's gonna tell you what to do all day and if you act up a little bit, we're gonna throw you in the hole. Um and pine

the prison pipeline. There's no room for free thought, no room for critical thinking, no room for challenging authority. I think it's a meme at this point, but like they're never gonna give you the tools you need to overthrow them. They don't want you to really do critically about ship um.

Even if they do, they sit mixed messages by at one time inspiring critical thing thinking but then didn't YouTube the Principle's office of your mouth off too much, And I think he speaks to that here just like man, y'all get us lined up next to our lockers to march the lunch room to eat our dry baloney sandwiches, and like got to raise your hand if you're ready to talk, and if you don't talk enough, you can

f So all these ways we're already alien. Were like alien the kids that are like they're not even absorbing the content because they don't give a funk because you're telling them what to do all the time, just producing lemmings, yeah,

and then driving them off the cliff on purpose. So if you're wondering, like, oh, what areur kids actually learning in school, they're not a whole lot of a whole lot of nothing, because we fucking like are just squeezing the life out of them and like not at all allowing any opportunity for them to see themselves reflected in the curricula, which is what like what your Republicans are afraid of, Like, oh, a black child, these like there

are people like in the textbook God Forbid, which isn't happening, but they're imagining that it is. They're not learning about civics, they're not learning like the full story of the civil rights movement. They're not learning about sucking how the government works. Ship's grim, but you know what's great rapping as always? Can you drop a funky fresh flag beat for us? Is? I don't know, bam yeah, and I'm hoping it's in poor taste. I need the weed like broken neath the

horse paste. I keep the seeds just like it was my foretaste. I'm about to smash on this beach. This was four play twelve trying to put me in the chokehold. I think I really need to give a damn about a walk school. No, because militia men take it arms trying to bomb niggas while comedians where we're about who canceled on Twitter? Yo, that ship is captain, you can think it's dope. Put that ship is wack. I can make a list of bigger issues if I think of that.

And leftist drifters who do it for the next check. Talking about wokeness is sounding like the s S and I mean all of them. Bill Margaret Walden of waiting at the phone when all right be calling them they collaborators,

They just agitators. I'm just trying to style hard and just wrap the greatest to me to leave rehearsal arguments for redistributing resources to the hardest hit and whether I just said can don the world of all the folks in charge of it, or if it's arduous as means we are to quit what can be accomplished by the state mounted on the bone to the indigenous the sorrows of the slaves are worth a two engates or something we can change is the change we get enough to

justify playing the game? Super valid questions one that I'm myself expressed with, even though I'm on the inside and arguably to blame as long as there's a government then getting it to nudget. But it's better than nothing, and I'm trying the best to play a dope knife Frank And you have been listening to Waiting on Reparations at production of our Heart Radio and you know what we'll see the funk next. Sweet give us a like, subscribe stars all that peace. Peace. Waiting on Reparations is a

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