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Keep Your Pardon -- Run Us Our Checks!

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This week, hosts Dope KNife and Linqua Franqa unpack the whirlwind week of transition between the 45th and 46th presidencies, detailing the nature and history of the presidential powers to pardon and enact executive orders as well as their most recent uses: pardoning Kodak Black, Lil Wayne and others, on the DJT side of things, and rejoining the Paris climate accord and doing immigrants a solid, on the Joe Biden end of the spectrum. LF goes off for a minute about $2k checks from her perspective having canvassed for newly-sworn in Senators Ossoff and Warnock. The hosts also review the latest tracks from the newly sprung jailbirds Kodak and Wayne, give Macklemore a chance to speak his piece on "Trump's Over Freestyle" and recommend this week's new Talib Kweli to listeners.

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You're listening to Waiting on Reparations production of I Heart Radio. Welcome to another episode coming to you. A lot to take from the land of the episode set, some of my best lines taking into the headlines. Keep them with the best. Try straights in the record farm because I came to play some chest. It's nigga sticking to check the foar sticking time or Topple went into a megaphone. But maybe I can check my reper president little heads of dest But I'm watching to see the set of

the rest of them. Told rappers get their chest exposed. I don't fold. I just break the mold. Homie. You can do what you were told how to funk? They let Tom Brady we're super Bowl? What the hell according people be on some new ship? Bernie the book alook, But the funk? Are they stupid to make a few cents to people with true grift and get you upon their Patreon Give him a few cents for that dope knife I'm leaving for and we are waiting on reparations.

So Mac, how you've been feeling in the aftermath of the transition presidentially this past week? To be honest, I've been trying my hardest not to like pay attention to politics for a good amount of time, but I mean, I can it's unsuccessful obviously. I just I can't help. I can't imagine how you would do that. I don't I don't even not even like as a person in the twenty one century, but like you as a person.

I don't want to describe it as like it's it's like a train wreck that you can't look away from, because that's not necessarily the case, but there is just it's like the fucking most interesting show on television at this point. You know, I just keep finding myself going back and wanting to see what's going on this season and feeling like a missing stuff each day that I I whatever, a day goes by that I don't watch the news, but I mean, I don't know. It's it's

it's a weird, funky feeling. It's like a mixture of being relieved and that kind of you know, gives a dash of optimism, and then it's a bit of an up and down thing. You know. One day I hear something that Biden's doing that I dig, and then another day I hear something that Democrats are doing that I don't dig, And the next day I hear something Biden's doing. Then I don't dig, and then the next day, Oh, it seems like your Chuck Shooter has got a spine,

you know what I mean. It's it's it's going off and on. I think that's really getting to me, is that you're not hearing really about what Trump's up to, and it's making me really nervous, Like I'm scared, like that he's like secretly meeting with the Proud Boys or like I don't know, like there's something like, you know, I would prefer to know what my enemies are up

to at all times. Maybe that's just me to like keep an eye on them, Like, Okay, I can see, like you know, if you if you're in the woods, you like hear footsteps behind you, You're like, well, what's that? But like if you really see the bear, you're like, all right, I know where the bear is. If I want to run from the bear, I know what direction to run away from. But if you're just like don't there's there's just no sign of life. You don't know

what direction the enemy could be coming from. That's how I feel with like Trump somewhat out of the news, not like tweeting every day or like doing some function power to like destroy all of our lives with I think that with what we're talking about today is actually gonna be a little bit of a uh justification or your fears a little bit, because we're gonna be talking about these pardons that Trump did on his way out, and just you know, when listeners, when you'll hear us

talking about it. I mean a lot of this stuff, you guys have have been heard about this, but I mean when you hear about the nature of it and just get like the full rundown of it. Some of it is so like on its face corrupt that you can only imagine what type of ship Trump is up to with out cameras all in his business right now. No, man, it freaks me out. I don't feel relieved. I do feel a sense of like like I am surprised by like how little disappointment I feel so far about the

Biden administration. Like it's I don't know, I feel like it's kind of hard to be worse than the Trump administration. And it's like, you know, I kind of like shipped on lips being like, oh, you know, it's gonna be back to normal podcast. I feel like getting punched in the face every day for like years, and then so you get stopped getting punched in the face. You still need to see a doctor, like your jaw is broken and you can't you're blinded, and like your nose needs reconstruction.

But like it feels good to just to not be punched in the face anymore. Well, I mean, as a result of that sort of relief, Biden is experiencing one hell of a honeymoon period. I think he has a sixty two approval rating or something like that. Yeah, and then like across the board, every single aspect of his COVID planning has a sixty plus you know, approval rating. So because the Trump administration was so horrible, you know, Biden has got a little bit of extra political capital

that I think anybody really expected. So, you know, so far, it seems like, you know, they're grabbing the bull by the horns. They're taking it. They've got Bernie in there. He's he's he's whispering ship and motherfucker's ear, you know, hopefully, I mean obviously, you know, no one wants to do, you know, fucking kid themselves and act like the Democrats are about to get this ship right or whatever, but people are all are seperate, all about kidding themselves. Well,

I mean, you know, I don't themselves right now. I don't hate on anybody for being happy, especially if you live. If you're a lib y'all won you know what I'm saying across the board. So it's like I get it. I'm not saying I agree with it, It's just I

get it. You know. It's just important that people I think I think it's gonna come out in the years that that past is, like, the more that they really start looking into the things that went down in the Trump administration, not just this tumultuous ship that's been going on, you know, in the post election, but just throughout it, I think we're gonna like get a clear picture of just how close we worked to the abyss, you know

what I'm saying, on like every front. And I think that will in turn extend, you know, the more that the mainstream media you know, plays it up and keeps that ship in the face of the American public, I think that will extend Joe Biden's honeymoon period. You know

what I'm saying. If every day you're hearing some horrible ship about Like yo, y'all have no idea how close we were to World War three, you know what I'm saying, Like for real, real or like yo, the economy like almost crashed like twelve times and none of us knew

because they were hiding the you know. You know. Well, Today we're gonna talk about the last days of the Trump presidency, notably the presidential pardons of a hundred forty three people, but chiefly among those since we are hip hop show, those of Kodak Black and Little Wayne, talk a little bit about what they've been up to since then. We're also going to get into some new music, some new songs from Kodak Black and Little Wayne on their you know postparton High Yeah, as well as new new

joint by Afro and Taller Quality. And we're gonna just talk a little bit about the first days of the Biden administration. Have we're feeling about how it's going in a little more detail, looking at some of his executive orders in this plus six hundred that's been going on. As Georgians, I well as a George and I have a lot to say. We'll be with that right after

the job. All right, So before we get into all of this yammering that we're about to do, why don't we, you know, started off with some additional yamer and what don't you tell them what exactly is a presidential party. Let's end them a little bit of public policy, you know. So, um, federal pardon is an action that can be taken by the President of United States that completely sets aside punishment

for federal crime. It's grammed by Article two, section to Clause one of the U. S. Constitution, and it's one form of clemency power of the president has. So you know, you can also commuter sentence, you can remiss a fine or you know, restitution for a crime, or grant reprieve. And actually it's interesting a person may also decide not to accept a pardon, in which case it doesn't take effectum.

According to Supreme Courtmatory opinion and verdict versus United States Um, a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and acceptance acceptance of a confession of it. So, I mean, if you are pardoned, you are innocent of the crime. It's not simply that your punishment for the crime is no longer um carried out. Under the Constitution, the president's clemency power extends to all federal criminal offenses and except cases of impeachment. Interesting good to know. You know, you might have heard

this before. With the whole thing with Trump is so he can't do anything when it comes to state crimes. So if you're somebody who's been pardoned and you've done a bunch of stuff that's illegal in the state of Nebraska, and Nebraska can still come after your ass even though federally.

Is that also why like never mind, I don't know what I was gonna talk about the fact that like, oh, they wouldn't prosecute him for anything while he was president, but like meanwhile, like ye know, it was like you know, we're piling up cases. Oh yeah, New York is going after that. Aside, like you were saying that you were worried about what he's up to, don't worry. Part of

it is that he's off doing some evil planning. But there's another good chunk of the reason you haven't heard from him is because his lawyers are telling them to keep his mouth shut because there are cases, there's civil and state cases that are being built up right now

out the ass. So when Trump is not going to be out of the news, Like I was thinking this the other day because I was like, you know, seeing a bunch of thumbnails on YouTube that had him, and I was like, man, why the funk are people still talking about Trump every day and he's not the president? And then it was like, oh, wait, I've never in my lifetime seeing a former president that committed this many crimes leave office. You know what I'm saying, He's gonna

be in the news for the next four years. People just need to get used to that. And that's not necessarily the media trying to keep him in your face. Like I mean, a president how been like fifty cases is a big deal you you would want them to report on that ship. Yeah, So the full extent of the president's power to pardon, it's something that's actually not been fully resolved. Pardons have been used for presumptive cases

of crime. So like, for example, when President Gerald Ford pardon Richard Nixon, who hadn't been charged with anything but just in case he did some crimes connected with Watergate, um. But the Supreme Court is never um considered legal effectiveness of such pardons, and it's send disagreement about how um pardon power applies in cases involving obstruction of an impeachment. So again, the peature is sort of like sort of off limits territory, and we're not really sure in the theory,

like all of this ship is in theory um. And then the ability for a president to pardon themselves has never been tested in the courts because the president has ever tried. I'm frankly surprised that part Trump didn't just like I pardoned myself for anything, even though like we start talking about with like the state of New York, like they're the states are coming from. Even if he were to federally to part himself of any federal crimes,

but I have a sense that it wouldn't work. I have a sense that if if the people who are advising him legally really thought that it could help hold up, given that it's never been tested, I think he would have done it. Yeah. There's also a speculation of whether secret pardons are possible, and Trump's former concierly Michael Cohen his his raised this specter as well. He says he thinks that Trump probably has attempted to do a bunch

of secret pardons. Now, Um, that man don't know how to keep a secret for his life, So I doubt that I'm gonna do shady, unethical things and everybody to know. Like we've been saying. One of the features of the four unfortunate years of Trump's presidency has been the series of unethical pardons out the gate of the game, starting with the corrupt racist Arizona Sheriff Joe R. Pio in

year one. Now. Poio had been accused of numerous types of police misconduct, including abuse of power, misuse of funds, failure to investigate sex crimes, criminal negligence, abuse of suspects and custody, improper clearances of cases, unlawful enforcement of immigration laws,

and election law violations, all on a sesame seed. But it's like a caricature of a police of like what you think like a sheriff is he's like literally causing all the crimes, the number one crime doer of like the thing I got Batman after him and shipped with

this fucking rapture for real. Um yeah, so that was week one, Yeah, But on the way out a week ago, Trump put up a dizzying list of last second part in hundred forty three if I'm not mistaken, which had added which added to the dozens he had handed out weeks before. Now, to be fair, there are a number of names, um, people within this list that legitimately should no longer be in prison or shouldn't have been there

to begin with. Um. And you know, pulled a couple of cases here, like Lynn Barney, who was sending thirty five months in prison for possessing a firearm as a previously convicted fat fell in after having been convicted for distributing a small amount of marijuana. According to the White House, so like out of gun had committed a crime. Beflore toldom Lane doesn't sound that bad to me personally. There's

also David Baron. Trump commuted the sentence of David Baron, who was sentenced to life in prison in addition to twenty years for drug conspiracy charges. In two thousand seventeen, President Barack Obama commuted his life term to a thirty year sentence. Was in that bipartisanship. The White House said Baron is a father of six children and has maintained an exemplary prison record. Petition advocating for further clemency for

Baron's release has garnered nearly twenty thousand signatures. And then there's Christina Boneen Camp, whose sentenced Trump commuted um after she served more than ten years of a twenty four year sentence for a non violent drug offense. I mean, I mean okay. And so it's stuff like this that to me makes sense of things like the pro Trump

politics of Angelistan King. Like I don't know if you'll know about her, but stan King was convicted on a federal conspiracy charge for her participation in a car theft ring served two the years in prison, during which time she gave birth to her daughter. February last year, Trump granted Stanton Clinging clemency, and she appeared at the White House afterward as part of a roundtable discussion in African American history for you know, African American History month. Who

calls it? Then? Oh god, okay around dad was discussion about history a month um. And then she went on to make appearances the Drum campaign and numerous black voices for Trump events and and this is the this is the real kicker. She also went on to run as a Republican against then incumbent John Lewis for Georgia's fifth congressional district seat, and later that year went up against Lewis's appointed successor candidate Nikima Williams after his passing. Now

she got fourteen percent of the vote. She supports Q and on and she's anti LGBTQ. She generally sucks. But she supported the right to vote for anyone released at who had a felony conviction that after they get released for JAM restored restoration of the voting rights, and as well, she supported the First Step Act, which outlawed the handcuffing of whim and during childbirth, which you know, she herself claims to have experienced when she was in prison two

thousand four. She was shackled while giving birth and described her daughter being snatched from her arms twenty four hours later.

So like, Okay, I'm not trying to give Trump any credit here whatsoever because obviously, but I think this is just like an interesting pattern and trajectory and wonder if we're on the left or like overlooking ship that could be argued as like materially good that people that draw people to the far right, like you know, fucking letting you know, this lady had a baby in jail and he, you know, offered her clemency and she was like, Yo, that's dope. Hell yeah, I'm a Trump Republican now black

voices for Trump. What's up? And like, you know, I mean, I get and I hear what you're saying, and I get it. You know, when when you're somebody, when somebody gives you a chance in a world where nobody gives you a chance, you're gonna funk with them. And so I just like worry, I guess more so, I'm just like worry about things like this. Well no, I mean, and that's at the end of the day, that's why

they do it. And that's why it's like usually always disingenuous coming from conservatives in my opinion, just because it's like I mean, they're definitely are quick to do things for like an individual somebody that they know or somebody that they have a relationship with, but they they don't think too much in terms of like people in doing things for the benefit of people, you know what I'm saying.

I always hate going here, but like I personally know women in from Liberia who escaped the Liberian Civil War who have had a lot worse done to them. That don't believe in Q and on. So I'm just saying, it's not if everybody who was in a difficult situation. And again, just to add to what you're the point that you're making is like you gotta give credit where credit to do. You know what I'm saying. You can't just boo who every single thing just because you don't

like Trump. So you know, there was some good that came out of these partners. There was a lot of good depending on you know, how you want to look at it. But despite these corrections to justice, so to speak, there was a smorgess board of ghouls and goblins and

fiends on this parting list. You ever, you've seen the Michael Jackson thriller video, you remember the part when him and the girl are walking to Vincent Prices talking and all the zombies are coming out of like the sewers and the alleys and and and shipped and from under the ground. That's how Washington was looking right now with

the fucking partons that Trump leaned out. I mean, you have literal war criminals, mass murderers, seven corrupt Republican congressmen who were convicted of crimes, including Chris Collins, who was videotaped doing insider trading at the White House, and then Duncan Hunter, Duncan Hunter who spent campaign funds on his multiple side chicks and more and more, and with everything in trump Land. Uh, you know, Mariah kind of alluded to it earlier. You've got to treat these pardons like

they're a serious like they're serious legal documents. And Trump Land is known for its incompetencies. So some of the wording on some of these pardons has apparently been so sloppy that it doesn't necessarily leave everybody off of the hook, and some people might be open to, uh, further prosecution

down the line. Kimberly Well, who's a University of Baltimore law professors, told Business Insider, it says speaking about the pardons, it says for his convictions, and that's it when referencing, uh, someone like Paul Manafort. And that's different from what Richard Nixon wrote in his which actually had in quotes all conceivable crimes instead of just for his convictions. So yeah, wait,

you're fucked up. Yeah, I mean, like if you're gonna if you're gonna sucking try to you know, strong arm the office, then you might as well go all the way with it. What the hell is this for his convictions? Bullshit? If you're gonna be like a fucking criminal, master criminal, you want to have a little bit more imagination than that. But hopefully that is the case when some of these you know guys getting nailed, that would be so sweet,

so sweet. Now what our eyes? You know? This being a hip hop show obviously is the pardons of Kodak Black and Lil Wayne. Yeah, the Krodak was in federal prison after pleading guilty to fire on its possession after being detained at the Canadian American border. UM right around

with the pandemic hit last year. UM. He still faced his potential prison time after being indicted in a FELLO charge for first degree criminal sexual conduct or alleged lame forcing himself onto a woman in two thousand sixt So like like president, like pardoned. In a statement slash tweet, Kodak said, I want to thank for the President Donald Trump for his commitment to justice reform and shortening my sentence. I also want to thank everyone for their support and love.

It means more than you will ever know. I want to continue giving back, learning, and growing, and could I just say that every word in this tweet is capitalized and ask like the listeners as well as Mac what it is with like hip hop cats and like do you know what I'm talking about? It? Like you see mad people on the t L like I want to thank the president. I think it's because it looks. It looks good when you like look at it, when you like look at a paragraph like that where every word

has a capitalization. I don't know. Maybe I'm just being they understands where this trend came from. It looks beautiful. Let us know. Enquiring minds are desperate for answers. It's a tweet, so who knows. Maybe it's some Twitter thing. I don't know about it. Your phone out of correct? I just I just got I just for years have been curious about something like new What's do you know? How to? Anyway? Is it? Is it? Like? Is it out of bounds for me to say that that doesn't

seem like Kodak wrote it? I mean I don't know that, man. No, I'm just saying, doesn't that seem like a PR thing? That's probably a publicist was like, yeah, I should probably say this. Then we had Little Wayne, who was the second one that we mentioned got pardoned, and a little Wayne had admitted to weapons charged back in December of last year and was due to be sentenced later this month.

He was facing ten years in jail before Trump swooped in with the cape and the pardon, and he made a statement as well, saying, I want to thank President Trump for recognizing that I have so much more to give to my family, my art, and my community. Back in October, many months before the part in, Wayne Piste off a bunch of people by posting a picture of Trumpet himself and professing support at for forty five ahead

of the election. In November, Pick was taken after an in person meaning they had to discuss the administration's Platinum Plan. Platinum Plan black people we discussed in the previous episode um the back class, Yet I was having people were

a little like the funk Bro. You guys heard it on this show, though it remains unknown, I would like to see quantitative data on howers effective to sales and streams, if at all, because you know what, and I don't know if we really delved too deeply into this ongoing eternal even debating, but you know, people separate the artists from the art like I still put on you know, college dropout like whatever you know, like but but I mean people upgrade the artists from the art. But I

think it's all circumstantial. It all depends on what that artist has. It all depends on what you have a problem with based on what you know that believe that artists. Did you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I feel like there's also a linkage between social media presence and like

media and then like art artistic consumption. So like somebody might not be like I'm gonna intentionally never listening a little way again, and they might be christof at him and then follow him on Twitter, which would then lead them to not hear about his new song, which like it's like a like a like a two step process by which it does negatively impact them financially or like

in terms of artistic prominence. Well, I think with like a with music, especially, you know, you want to like, you know, you want to feel like you can relate to the music you're listening to, because I mean with the movie it's different. You could be like, hey, I funk with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Even though he's a Republican because

he's playing the terminator, you know what I'm saying. But with like with music, especially with hip hop, you know, you want to feel some of that connection that hey, at the bare minimum, like I could hang out with this person and this person's like someone that's like me, and I guess it. Don't just depend for a social relationship put them through the music where you're like, oh, I'm to be in the club of Drake. Yeah. Yeah.

But if you think that Drake is like his personality is somebody that you wouldn't hang out with in real life or that you wouldn't tolerate, that's like it's like not we need UI exactly. I mean, that's that's just how I look at it. I mean, I I think that's what it comes down to. Somebody, somebody who can still listen to Little Wayne and listen to Kanye, I feel like they could probably tolerate a Trump supporter in their life personally. And I'm not saying that's a bad thing.

I'm just saying I can't. I you know, like I absolutely can't. So like for me, it's like I can't it when I go back and listen to college dropout. You know, I'm just I smoke too much weed maybe or something. But my brain just can't help but connect what I'm hearing to what I know. Now you know

what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, I can always appreciate it for the art that it is, but it just has that little bit of difference from when you're watching a movie, because you know, it's like a John Wayne's not playing John Wayne or or whatever whatever fucking movie you're watching. You can, you can, you can try your hardest, you can. You can just more easily lose yourself in the fantasy of a movie or a book if it's written by somebody that well, maybe not a book. A

book kind of has the same sort of vibe. You think Layne's endorsement might have been a ploy to secure the pardon. You are probably right, You're most likely right. But Wayne's lawyer, Bradford Cohen denies the speculation earli as he did to the n y T. He said, it never heard that someone gets a full understanding of an individual when they're looking at just looking at a pizza paper. In hindsight, I guess it worked out. I think they

have a very strong connection. He's in the entertainment world. He's got a style. It is similar in terms of the way it carries himself, and a lot of rappers and people in the industry relate to that. I've been saying that since the start of the show, these rappers funk with Trump Yo, And I saw this tweet that I thought captured the significance of these particular partners perfectly.

In essence, it said the failure of black capitalism as a vehicle for black liberation is not seen anywhere as clearly as in Trump partnering a couple of buck millionaires like Wheezy and Kodak, while also pardoning his rich white supremacist cronies like Bandon. They are to these people all a part of the same class. It's all a big club. Who said that? That is Bravo ship, right. I don't know, some bitch like, hell yeah, girl, get it. I hope

you live drive for that's what. But yeah, I mean, I agree agree with you that that's what it is. That's that's why it's like you know that, that's why you shouldn't trust these rappers. Man, you really should have fucking Fabulous had a really dope line in the song back in the day where he said a lot of these rappers say that there for the hood. They're not. They're just from the hood. Not everybody who's from the

hood is for the hood. And I feel like this hip hop flirtation with maggot ism, like encap encapsulates that quote to a t um. This isn't the first time that a disgraced, unpopular Republican president handed out confusing pardons to random rappers as he limped out of office in

shame um. Back in two thousand eight, Fuji's affiliate John Forte was among those pardoned by George W. Bush as he left office, and Forte was arrested back in two thousand for carrying a suitcase filled with one point four million dollars of liquid cocaine in the New York International Airport, which like, let me just stop you right there for a second and say, the liquid that the ship that looked like a bomb, that's amazing, that's crazy. He had

he had a single out and everything. For the life of me, I'm usually good with this, but I would just like do a really high pitched bad singing of the hook, but I can't remember it for the life of me. But the audacity. You really got to marvel of the audacity. But yeah, he was when you have a record on the radio though words four millions come on man um he Jesus Christ. He was convicted with the intent to distribute charge and was given a mandatory

minimum of fourteen years in prison. So, with over a decade having passed since Forte has been pardoned, there's been more light drawn onto the situation. And I'm sure that's pretty much what's gonna happen with Wait in Kodak, We'll get all the details. You No one's gonna talk about this yere right now. In a Forte's case, during his travels as a rapper, he had become really good friends,

almost best friends, with a guy named Ben Taylor. And Ben Taylor's mother is famed singer songwriter Carly Simon, and she threw her resources and personal connects was able to lobby Bush to get, you know, a pardon for John Forte. She since written exclusively about it. There's a Vanity Fair article from titled Brooklyn Bard where she refers to John Forte as her godson. I mean, the whole entire article

is dedicated to this entire situation. Of her life in getting John Forte out of jail and stuff like that. It's a really interesting read. But what are your thoughts on this? This this one seems like a bit more. I mean, I don't even I don't want to say it's on the level, but I mean it is on

a level. It's a big problem. You ain't in it whether or not they're like using black people as like political props to like cement key like support within key demographics, or it's a matter of someone well connected through a friend of a friend using their social capital, which is a crude through being a millionaire to you know, lobby a president for a pardon like this is always motherfucker's they on. They are on the same team, and we are not on it with them. That is true. That

is definitely true. The sad thing is that, um, I don't think John Firte ever made any more albums, but we're definitely gonna get a bunch of Kodak Black and Little Wayne songs. Yeah, there's that. No matter the case, all those pardons, until otherwise revealed, are within the immense

parton powers of the sitting president. And I don't think that there's been a modern president that is like flex that as much as Trump has I mean, the rappers aside, it's it's interesting, it's funny because you know, it's a hip hop show and stuff. But I mean, the mere fact that Trump just brazenly pardoned black Water is like, for real, The fact that anyone talks about anything other than that is bonkers. You know what I'm saying This

This ship is fucking crazy. Yeah, I mean the new cycle I since accelebrated both based on like what the media environment is like now and also just the amount of fucking crazy things happening in the last four years. And I feel like that, like hypercceleration, it's just going to become the norm now, even if like perhaps less insane things happened constantly because we have slightly more competent leadership.

That is the ultimate dog whistle to me, though, is those that pardon to those guys more than anything that Trump and Trump is somebody who like woke up in the morning randomly and tweeted out white power. But I think that, like, oh man, I almost forgot about that. Sometimes. I think pardoning some mass murderers who killed Iraqi women and children in cold blood proven you know, what I'm saying, Like, that's pretty much just saying, hey, it's okay to kill

brown people in a nutshell. That's that's the that's the did before. But in case you were still wondering even too, you know, yeah, weapons free, go ahead, Like if you were like, oh no, no, no, I didn't think that, Like, I just want to make sure, you know, I believe mass slaughter of forens is okay by me, Like, yeah, unequivably. Now, speaking of presidential power, did you want to talk a little bit of some of the flex and the Biden's been doing here. Yeah, let's keep over this h n

r A stuff stuff to kind of burn out. Um, don't you go ahead and enter that? So? Um, actually, let me see if I can find a wiki real quick. I do believe it's thirty. It's thirty so far. Yeah. So yeah, So let's get into another immense presidential power that's been on display too great links in the last week, to the power of executive order. To An executive order is a means of issuing federal directives by the President of the United States to manage the operations of the

federal government. Um Article two of the United States Constitution gives the president broad executive and enforcement authority to use his or herd to expression. Do you determine how to enforce the law otherwise manage to the resources and staff of the executive branch. So, um, they can just so it's like I guess limited, Like executive orders were limited to like things within the executive branch or the operations of the government that they can control. They can't just

like decree new laws for all of us too. Yeah, that's why. For example, one of his executive orders was a mass mandate on federal property, because it's like, Okay, if these are federal buildings that are run by the federal government, then we can like force people there, but we can't do it and say great Capitals or something

like that. They also kind of leave the policy open to being altered whenever a new administration comes in, because they can just pass executive orders and change everything up. That's a concern that I feel a bit more relevant to eight years ago. That really doesn't matter right now anymore. Well, we'll get in taught in a little bit. Some of these executive orders that he put out. Joe Biden and had signed a flurry of these, UM, I believe it was like twenty the first day and he had like

twenty more the next day. He's just he's signing executive orders out there out the gate. Some people are kind of wondering why they're doing Why are they're doing it this way instead of rolling it out one at a time to extend the news story and keep keep a headline the way that Trump did. How would be one day, Hey,

I'm going to not feed children. Then the next day it was like, hey, transgenders are illegal, and then the next day he's like, hey, Mexicans need to leave like and people were expecting Joe Biden to kind of make these corrections on a day daily basis to make headlines. But I actually like the strategy of just doing all of it at once, just from the get go, because A, you're getting more done quicker, and then let's keep it real.

People are stupid, and if you start doing these things one by one, I can totally see people getting upset that their particular issue isn't getting rectified first. And how do you I mean, I was funny question to you as someone that's followed politics for a little bit longer than I have. Um when presidential candidates are any candidate for that matter, says they're going to do something on

day one. Is that a rhetorical flourish, because like he got a lot of ship done on day one, but like the kids are still in cages, like and if I'm not mistaken, on the campaign trail, like dealing with migrant family separation and detainment was something he claimed to like I'm gonna do on day one. So like I'm not saying, like I'm I just want to understand what these people mean when they say that I never meant that. Then it's just like, oh, everyone else understands that he

just meant like soon things. I don't know this for a fact, but I think that when they say day one they kind of mean the first hundred days. But it's it's definitely, it's definitely rhetorical. I mean the end of the day. It's like, as much as I would love for Biden to just go in there and like wave the wine and undo stuff, I personally don't necessarily want authoritarian authoritarian authoritarianism that I agree with, you know

what I'm saying. So it's like I still I still do would want him to like I wouldn't want him to fucking strong arm the ship the way Trump did. HM. But to a certain extent, I kind of do want in a strong arm the ship the way Trump did because I don't believe that we can work or Republicans anymore. So I don't know that's where you were saying, you

know what I'm saying. It's like again, it's like sometimes I find myself slipping into the ship thinking that it's two thousand twelve and that we're talking about Mitt Romney and ship, and it's like, no, we're talking about literal Nazis. So yeah, you know, I I actually the more that I think about this in my head, I I agree with strong arming it and I think that that should

be the way, because I mean, it's not looked. It's not like the Republicans aren't going to strong arm ship the next time that they get power, you know what I'm saying. So it's like immediately, yeah, immediately, I mean if it did, they just try to overturn the election violently, you know what I'm saying. So you can pretty much expect the next time that there's a Republican president, on day one, there's going to be executive orders like now,

you're allowed to eat poor people. It's gonna it's gonna be crazy. They're just gonna like go full mask off with it. Um. But let's get into some of these, you know, some of these Biden has passed some of the interesting ones. Yeah. So day one he signed an executive order rejoining the Paris Agreement and climate change sign you know, like in a creen of deal and nothing. But it's one of those top campaign promises. Um And Okay, sure, I don't know what are your what's your thoughts on that?

Like I feel it's a bare minimum And like I said, I mean that that's one feels great because it's like not getting punched in the face anymore after getting punched in the face every day for the last four years. And it is the first day, so you know. But I mean again, like there's a lot of these corrective things that have to be done that are really just kind of, um, what's the word that I'm looking for.

It's really just kind of window dressing. Window dressing in a way, because some of the real corrections that they have to do within the to the damage that Trump did is like not just as easy as signing an executive order. Sure, there. I mean, like executive orders do seem expansive in their power, but they aren't. Really. It's just like, aren't they aren't. I mean, to be honest, we were. We were making fun of of of Trump and his flurry of executive orders for just how like

useless they truly were. So it's a it's a good it's a good feel good thing, and it's a good symbolic thing. And don't get me wrong, there's I'm sure in most cases there are a lot of cases that it's actually making tangible differences and corrections and stuff like that. But for the most part, it feels good to like stick it to the maggots, like how we're coming in and we just changing all y'all ship you know what I mean? That feels And have transgenders back in the military.

This is what you call unity, you know, nervous breakdowns. Um, yeah, go for it. I was gonna say this one the executive order. This is another it's another immigration one, but the executive order revising immigration enforcement policies, revoking Trump error policy that cracked down on communities shielding undocumented immigrants from deportation. Yeah. That there was also another one that he signed that pretty much makes librarians unde portable for like the next

three or four years. Graduation. Thank thank you, thank you for that, family that thanks you for that. UM A lot of immigration stuff, Memorandum strengthening DOTA, so you can see where most of the Trump administration's focus was. Yeah, um, as well, they pulled funds for the border wall, cancel

the Keystone pipeline. I think that's pretty dope because it's like Dakota Access Pipeline next maybe you know, it's like one of those that points towards perhaps better things to come in future, whereas like the you know, getting back in the Paris Climate Accords feels like they're going to just like do that and then stop. Um like, oh we didn't, hooray. Like, you know. They've also terminated federal

funding for private prisons, which is pretty dope. I mean, prisons are still terrible and all of them should go. And it doesn't it doesn't affect ice, it doesn't. TREK I just kind of become its own paramilitary organizations of salt of like understanding their true scope, just understanding that the president is not a king, you know, like the

president is not a king. UM in in in moments when you're coming off the hive, being on the winning side of a political victory, it can sometimes, you know, I feel good to like imagine, oh, man, wouldn't it just be cool if the president was actually a king and then we could just do all this cool dope ship that I like. You know what I'm saying. But you just got to keep in mind that the pendulum always swings no matter what, no matter what, and you

guys have seen what these people are capable of. So this isn't saying we shouldn't do anything because you know, just like I said with in prior episodes, there's nothing that the right wingers are going to do that they were going to change the mind of because it wasn't done to them first, you know what I'm saying. So can I say my personal favorite, my personal favorite Executive order um banned discrimination in the base of gender identity or sexual orientation um UH and a move alotted by

LGBTQ advocate Spines, order extends federal non discrimination protections. Two members of the LGBTQ community. Building off the landmark Supreme Court decision in Bostock versus Clayton County Georgia last year to expand protections against discrimination based on sex and federal agencies to also include sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender

expression as well. And why are like this? I mean, I think it's important, but like from just like a purely like lizard brain standpoint, like I heard about it

because I heard turfs and transphobs were really pissed. And like after Biden's talk about, you know, at the inauguration about like unity and all of us coming together, I was like, all right, cool, maybe is willing to piss off the right people, like people like Oh, he's like willing to make bad people angry sick, because that's gonna be really important for us to like gets ship done that brings everyone, that brings this true unity that is

only a possible through justice, and so um I was like, yeah, cool, maybe, like will they pissed off some white supremacists. Well, I think that Joe Biden wants to go down with Like I think he's thinking of his ship like in terms of legacy and stuff like that. So I think he's gonna do whatever he thinks is going to be good politics, you know what I'm saying. So if that's where the

political winds are blowing, I think. I think that's where he's going to be at and right now, the political winds, I think are telling him to piss off some of the right people, you know what I mean, A couple of folks the left maybe like you know, doesn't quite hate you for all your talk community without accountability. Before we get into this music discussion, talk to them about your thoughts about the fourteen dollar or fourteen or four

hundred and six hundred two stimulus. So let's talk about stimmy. Like, I just don't like being made a liar, Okay. I was out here knocking the nors all over Athens and all over the state, literally telling people like, they'll give you two thousand dollars, because that's what they said. They will give you, not two dollars, two thousand dollars check, We're not tweeted out a picture of a check with two thousand dollars on it and was like, do you

want this vote for me? Which ethnically questionable, but you know, in terms of like concrete, like legible material benefit for people that are struggling right now, a might not like oh, living wage and crew, So I'm not sure, like you know, I already make fourteen forty five. I don't know what that means for me or like oh, like you know, in being private persons for an example, like no, that sounds cool and don't really you know so and like

everybody could use sucking two k right now. And I fucking told them when they asked me, you know, like, well, the thing that it matters for me is COVID relief. And these motherckers said they're gonna give you a two thousand dollar check. Joe Biden came down, he told us that we have us to two thousand check. We're not gonna I was like, you get us in there immediately. And that's the other thing is that they were like immediately, it's like vote for us, the whear us and get

your two k immediately. That was the messaging. And now we're talking about by like April. I just don't. I just feel personally upset because like like a wind of people, y'all make a lot of people. I believe, I believe to you, and I'm sucking us. Oh you're talking to people for you about it. Even the mention that they're even thinking about doing that is stupid and they should just go with the two thousand dollars. The thing, look, look at all these all these all these executive actions

that are like pretty good. But you know what, it's hard to explain when I'm out canvass in in the hood where the fucking matter were back in the Paris Climate Agreement. An't nobody give a ship if you've got to fucking wear a mask on federal property. I couldn't even point to you a piece of federal property over and all the block. But one thing, one thing I will say that people were going to remember that. People

are going to remember that they will. But one thing I will say is that Joe Biden has been president for seven days. He's been That's all I'm saying is that he's been president for seven days, which is not a long time. I don't know, I don't know. I I just like I think political again, like I said, politically, I don't even think the should be a discussion, Like I don't think that anyone should even be questioning whether

these just need to be two thousand dollar checks. But realistically it's just like I don't know, I don't know. It doesn't, I don't know, it doesn't. It's not like a deal breaker with me right now. I just think I think it's just incredibly politically stupid. Yeah, it's super politically stupid. I just don't think it's like ha ha, we fleeced you and now we won't get you know what I mean, at least that's not why. At least that's not what I think. But I mean, I don't

regret anybody else for feeling that way. It's just so funny because the discourse has always been like, oh, you know, don't criticize Biden right now, he's got to make it through the president, you know, the presidential election. Well, anybody who's saying don't criticize Biden right now can need a dick.

But it's funny. It's because the people with the politicals happy to realize they're shooting themselves in the foot for because the one of the forthcoming steps along that process or this on this hamster wheel, it's like, don't criticize Biden, like we gotta win two and like keep the Senate now, or like expand our margin in the House, or expect you actually take the Senate by it you know, actually you know number of seats. Yeah, it's like y'all are

the ones already sucking up. It's not mine criticizing you that pushed you into this position where like people are gonna hate you because you lined to them. Well, if you if you're if for people out there who are progressive, I feel like if you are hoping for Biden to go more left, then you should continue to hope that the Republicans divulge into this Q and non madness ship that they're doing and just like become completely unreasonable to

work with and every facet all of them. And then then I think, I think, you know, the Democrats might straighten up a little bit. Are you trying drop about music? Hello, we'll get at the music discussion right after the job, all right, so this matter, we're gonna first listen to a track that mc lemore dropped. I believe this was on Biden's inauguration. Drop this, It made us made some noise on the internet. A lot of people were upset. I don't understand why. But let's take a little listen

Big Drive, Blue Lives Matter, talking about the right. Everybody was you know what, like, Okay, I don't necessarily funk with mac lemore style. Yeah, but I appreciate mac Lemore. I really do. I'm not like saying that like as a joker, facetiously, Like because of mac Lemore. I had a little cousin asked me, who's grandmaster? Has you know what I'm saying because back Lemore motherfucker is in their video and shouts motherfucker's out, and I think his heart's

in the right place. This is actually I don't know what the big deal is, you know, I just I tend to not give people points for having their hearts

in the right place. Like I only funk with smart people, and like he doesn't have a great track record of that, but like I appreciate that anybody being like, I don't care the funk if I lose you as a fan, if you like Sailer in the face of you know, this ship and calling up outside, you know, calling up liberals are going back to brunch, calling out Brian in his like lifted truck, the face of a gas station

attendant or whatever. Like, I just know nobody was talking about the content of what mc lamore was saying, and everybody was saying that it was cringe, and it was cringe, and it was cringe, and that was the word I kept here in associated with this track more than anything. Oh it's cringe. Oh it's cringe. Now, I've been listening to rap music for a long, long, long long time.

If this Maclamore ship was the ship that you heard this week the world him that made you cringe, I dare say you're not listening to pop because some of these motherfucker's will listen to a motherfucker freestyle and go. But I I kept perceive it as cringe and that it's preachy, and like some people don't listen to music to like hear a rappers opinion about shit. I don't understand that. I don't understand that. I don't understand that.

I don't understand. Yeah, I mean again, I can listen to it and I can be like, oh, yeah, I don't funk with that. Why oh he wasn't rhyming enough and like I don't like the way he was flowing to the beat or no, that style was too slow. I thought he should have come faster over that beat, you know what I'm saying, Or yo, that one line there, it was like, no, I don't funk with that line. That line didn't make no sense of something like that. But I don't know if like if a rapper wraps

in in, your response is like, oh, that's cringe. I don't care what the rapper was rapping about, what the rapper was saying. As a hip hop head, I'm probably not listening to a word that. You know. The person who's given that opinion is like, Okay, a cringe, that's your that's your servation of this beautiful art form that we love. It's just cringe. That's all you got to say.

Get out of here with that ship, like you know, for yourself, I was like, well, I mean aesthetically, I don't think I didn't expect it to be when I thought when I when I came into it, assuming it was going to be current. I thought it was because it's gonna be bad rapping. Yeah, me too to Really, I mean, it wasn't like example, it wasn't good rapping regular bars. It was matter more regular bars, you know

what I'm saying. Yeah, there's so many crash bars out there that like, when you get a and bars, it could feel like a full course. Jess Christ, I'm sweating when we lay down. Okay. Up next, we got Kodak Black with his track Last Day, in which I guess was recorded after his parted I live him crazy, but you're fame, and I'd try to spend my East Damn Miami Okay, Kodak colection sing ever no never, no never.

Just want to get that all right? Cut that cut that, like I mean because I know like or at least I seem to recall that, like you don't like sing rappers period, But that's not why I don't like that. Pull it off and pack obviously, like that's his whole name, Like there's been there, there's precedent set, but it can be done. Look. Look, unfortunately, I would almost rather the entire subgenre of sing rapping be abolished just so I

would not have to have her that yo. I I'm not a fan of sing rap, but it is what it is. I can appreciate it when it's done. Well, that was just bad, Joe, And like I want to talk about it because like I think that he's talking about wanting to see a lover out of jail about like you didn't even call and check on me, which like is a thing. You know, he's in president ship,

but that execution, like you know, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Uh, if you want to say that I'm just not hip and I just like I don't get it, then fine. But that ship was whack, yo, Like, I'm sorry that that was I was not working with that. Let's let's see holds up? But am I tripping about that song? Though? Like that was? That was whack? Right? The last day was bush. We're sorry, We're sorry, We're sorry we did that.

We gotta see what people do with they freedom when they get out, like exactly, let's let's hear what little Wayne has to say. Yeah, I'm a little bit higher hopes for this kid. Ain't got time. I guess the down turn Flieswham. I can't live when I think too much? Did the partner just make niggas not want to wrap? I mean the something happened to him on the inside. Okay, we gotta we need to we need to puke the

whole wrap game on hold. Figure out what's going on with these niggas, because like Trump got these niggas hitting high nose. I'm really scared for them. What happened yo? That was hot garbage. Yeah, I'm really worried. Okay, um, let me see, how do I how do I how do I put that into words. That was that was bad. It's bad. Um, I don't know, I don't even know what to say. It's like it's hard to even get

into the ship. It's I believe it was Forest Whitaker who once said this sucks the sweat of a dead man's balls. I don't even know what the funk that ship means, but it sounds appropriate for this ship. I mean, I'm looking at the lyrics right now for like some of the clever word play, like I've always loved his ability with metaphor his like uh punch lines. The private plane went and got one that's more private. Good job? Um, alright, produced world wrote it on two cups, poor little juice

for him? Sup, gave me goose bumps. Wait wait, wait when he says poor little juice for him? Is he talking about porn? More lean? I you know, I just I mean, isn't that inappropriate? Up? Bron the man, I keep going, keep going? Anything else? That really? You mentioned Trump at all? No? I mean he talks about like, you know, the FBI getting arrested by the FBI, um, trying to hide from getting high. That's it. Okay. The Little Wayne song was better than the Kodak song, but

they were both not dope. In my opinion, they were both not dope. Yeah I was. I'm kind of disappointed. You know what. The last rapper, the last rapper who put out like a joint right after they got out of jail that I really dug, was Gucci Man with the track First Day Out. But Nigga, I can't wait. I only chance to kill my enemies and beat my case. Yo, slow on that. That just slaves me exactly. I've been listening that year for the last like four years. Yeah,

he's like, Yo, I just got the jail. I don't know how to just like take my time because that's sober. Get in the jail cell of a day, an hour out in the yard, that's ship, that's sober. I don't do lean no more, Gucci like when he was fresh out on probation, Like so, I just gotta like sit there with the pen and really get busy with it. And I mean, after just listening to all three of those back to back, I mean even one of the joints has the same name as his song, and Gucci

slayd both of those tracks. Easy, easy to corrections. This is called First Day out. It's called First Day Out Kodak songs Last Day and okay, last Day and first Day Out. But um yeah, now he killed put that backin of ship. Um yeah. I mean when you don't take favorites from the fascist and you just do your time, you know what I'm saying, Hey, I'm a better rapper. We got one more new joint. This is by um M C and I guess fellow podcaster too Toler Quality

featuring Afro and Diamond D Far Out Bar Out. Let's check this out like I'm Black itself, wraps Ubador Dell and a nice boom bab track. I remember hearing this interview with rock him once and he was breaking down how his You know, he took a lot of his cues from jazz, so he always envisions his rhyming like a sacks playing on the track, like the way that you know. And he's a trained saxophone player too, so like he always imagines his raps being like a saxophone

playing on the track. And that Toler song, This far Out Bar Out joint gives me that sort of vibe where it's like, like you said, it's not necessarily that anyone is saying much. But it's an exercise in like flow. You know what I'm saying. It's like, that's beautiful exercise, a masterful exercise. It's exactly way to say that. And yeah and a little bit lit lyric videos cute too. So about chut that out on YouTube? Yeah? Yeah, check that shut out? Yeah? Um, I believe that that is

it for us today. You know, hit us up on Instagram. I heart reparations, Um, you hit me up Lingua Franca or what's yours? I'm at dope underscore knife, hit us up if you got what you want to hear about on the policy on the side of music, you know, this is your shot to oh something that somebody gave me a good idea for that we're going to start doing in this episode. Is since we have yet to figure out how to link a playlist of some sort along with the podcast, I'm sure there's an easy way

to do it. We're just dumb, and we're going to start writing the songs that we talk about within the episode description. So so for you guys who do want to go check with that, because somebod y'all be hitting me up to you know, ask. First of all, y'all, hit me out to say, hey, can you tell me the songs that you guys are talking about? I'm like, yo,

can't you listen to this ship? But but yeah, I know we're gonna start including the songs in the episode descriptions, so if you want to go find those, you can look for those. And in the future, like I said, one day, we'll have like an official waiting on a referations playlist that updates every fucking week with new songs and then all that cert of jazz. All right, I feel like grabbing Joel. It's gonna beat yo. Yo. I'm

usually be alone of it. Right now, I got a larger group looking at Biden can get a pardon to give one to my mother and a couple from my squaddle due. It'll come in handy because I was thinking of robbing you. It's just a joke. I ain't doing crime. I just use a rom I'm just short and pretty. I ain't doing time. But if Trump offered me a pardon with our true decline, I don't know, you decide who am I. It's the knife, the dopest one got the smoking luck. I spit it slick with the golden tongue.

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