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my Savannah hometown song. So in preparation, I have been doing a lot of interviews. Um. I did podcast called the Riff the other night, and I did my homie Tayammu Denku, who's a rapper from uh Milwaukee. I did his podcast The Taking, a part of Passion Podcast. It's been it's been fun. Yeah. I just I think I think I'm starting to get kind of like an interview character down intact. So it's how similar to to your
rap character like on stage. I mean, I feel like you're a pretty much the same person, but you know, I think it's it's a yeah, I think I think my interview When I say interview character, I guess I just mean, you know, I feel like I feel like a lot more open when I'm asking people questions, but when I'm getting interviewed, I feel like I've I've been kind of stiff in the past, but now I'm just opening up and telling, you know, jokes that I tell
when I have regular conversations with people, so I feel that they feel they went well. In any event, I just like got off of an hour long conversation about like my bio and stuff like that. So I'm feeling really loosey goosey. So you're loosened up. Yeah, Yeah, I'm I'm loose. I'm ready to talk. I'd already talking. Yeah, that's not that ship. So today we're gonna talk about the legal concept of self defense, which is being invoked
in several um high profile trials right now. Um. The McMichael family has claimed self defense in the murder case of Ahmad are Very, which is taking place in South Georgia this week. Um Uh. Kylin Rittenhouse also in folk self defense for the killing of two BLM protesters in Kenosha, Wisconsin last summer. Doing his trial that has been going on is actually wrapping up this week. But when are black people allowed to evoke self defense? If at all?
This week we'll discuss highlights from both trials. Highlights from this week. We'll discuss highlights from both trials, their implications, as well as some lesser known legal cases of self defense in the world of hip hop. Just to recap, what are your thoughts generally on the Kyle Rittenhouse trial.
Last time that we talked about the Kyle Rittenhouse trial directly on this show, I think it had to have been a year ago at this point, probably, I mean, probably right after it happened, Yeah, exactly, like maybe even if so, I mean the last time that we delved into this case, I mean they still thought that a flaming object was thrown at him, all that sort of stuff. I think general thoughts are now Yeah, I think he came up last of October one of last year, is um,
when we had our guns episode. I'll be talking a little bit about Kyle Rittenhouse. Um. I think I mean. The most the UCH year headlines I guess that have drawn my eye over the course of this trial have pertained to the improprieties of the judge who was very clearly skewed in favor of written House, anything from allowing him to draw the pieces of paper on which were written the juror's name, to determine who would actually partake in the like verdict deciding proceedings. I'm sure there's a
technical term, but that I don't care. Well. That was the lawyer that was mean. That was also like egregious. Um. The judge had the jury clap for one of the UH witnesses for the defense because he was a veteran and it was veteran's day. Um. And going all the way back to when they were deciding what, um, what evidence was or what you know, what was allowed in
the courtroom, um, declaring that the people written House killed. Um, we're not allowed to be called victims, but we're allowed to be called writers and rioters and looters if the defense could present evidence that that was true. So much the judges turned this case into a farce pretty much effectively. And I mean, the thing is, the thing that makes it so striking is that the Amad are very cases going on simultaneously, so which I have heard conspiracy theories
that that is on purpose. Because most people are talking about the Written House trial. Um, the Ahmad Aubrey trial is not receiving the same level of public scrutiny, and that will make it if the McMichaels and their friend get off. Um, sorry I got spooked because Paul just came out of nowhere. If the McMichaels and their friends get off, then there won't be as much holla baloo because people will not have noticed because they wouldn't weren't
following it. I mean, I think, I I don't I don't know if that's coordinated, but I think I might have to play a little bit of Devil's advocate just at that point, not that you were making that point, but the Kyle Rittenhouse case is more ambiguous and nuanced, and there's a lot of more moving pieces in it, which is why I think it's a bigger story just just from like a pure like wet drives ratings and
wit drives eyeballs to click on stuff. Something that's more you know, just kind of dark and macaw, but something that seems like it's more of a coin toss is gonna be more exciting for people to consume. Like as a news story, I think with with the people with what what people do know about the ahmad are very case, I mean, and who knows. People may be shocked, some people may be shocked if those guys get off, but I think everyone is more or less expecting those guys
to go down. We both and therefore I think that's why it's it might not be, but you know, you know, you never know. I mean, you know the Kyle rittenhouse cases, like a young white kid, that's you know, maybe that's that's what's attracting the eyeballs. But I don't know. Um. I do know that that striking comparison is going to make it that if those two outcomes of the outcomes that at least I expect they're gonna happen, which is
that Rittenhouse walks and the McMichaels go down. I think that it's gonna I don't know it's gonna it's gonna cause like a, I don't even know what it's gonna cause. But I just know there's not going to really be any sort of way that you can look at the Written House trial coming out of that and think that it just isn't you know, tarred with like shenanigans and fuck are you because of what the judges doing effectively. But yeah, we'll get into all that and more after
the jump. Okay, we're back, And for those who have not been obsessively watching the news over the last two weeks, closing arguments were heard Monday for the murder trial co Written House, um, who, at seventeen years old on August cross state lines with an illegal firearm to take the streets of Kenosha, Wisconsin, during the protest against the shooting
of Jacob Blake by police officer days earlier. Using an A R fifteen type rifle, he killed Joseph Rosenbaum Pty six, Anthony Hubert, and wounded Gauge Growth Crews twenty seven during the street demonstrations. Written House is now eighteen, and it's been charged with five felony accounts and a misdemeanors weapons charge that I think has subsequently been dropped. There's like
a loophole, dadda. But the fellow needs include one count of first degree reckless homicide, two counts of first degree recklessly in endangering safety, and two counts of first degree intentional homicide, saying that he on purpose tried to kill or no did kill um Ebony Huber and Joseph Rosenbaum um So if convicted of the homicide chargers. If convicted of the homicide charges, Written House will spend the rest
of his life in prison. Now a. Rittenhouse claimed that he was there as a medic to protect stores from looters. Interestingly enough, the little punk as bitch medic did not attempt to render any aid to the people he claims he shot in self defense. The video presented in the trials shows the bystanders rendering aid to Rose Bomb after he was shot in the head by Rittenhouse. He then
ran away after he shot Grosscroots in the arm. A live stream captures rose Roots yelling for medic, but the clip shows written House walking away from the scene as an armored vehicle drives by him, and people nearby yell he shot them. At the trial, he also admitted that he falsely claimed to be a certified e m T the night of the shooting, but his legal team is
claiming self defense. UM. His lawyer John Pierce stated in a video posted Twitter last year, if this is not self defense for Kyle written House under these circumstances, then no one can protect themselves, no one can protect their family, and no one can protect their country. Um, which I just think has so many applications to it. Okay, Like we all know that's that it's like typical fucking n r A gun jargon talk, so we all know that's bullshit.
The thing that I kind of want to like think about it is like I think that the wrong argument to have about the Kyle Written or not even the wrong argument now because the cases about self defense, But in terms of what we want to point out, I think we should be attacking more the idea of why he was there first place, you know, and and and and because at the end of the day, somebody did you know, at the end of the day, people did come at him. So it's like, even though I think
that he's guilty or whatever. I think we can all be adults. We can all understand that, you know, this jury judge fucking around Wisconsin, one black juror all that ship, we can pretty much guess that he's going to get off, right, So, like, why I didn't I don't even understand if there's any like even like legal direction that you can go. But I just don't understand, like why that wasn't uh focus of the cases? Like why is the fucking seventeen year
old run walking around with the gun? Why is he going into like a crowd of people with a gun? What I think is interesting about this quote from UM John Pierce as he says, no one can protect themselves, no one can protect their family. And when I think about the the phrase black lives matter in this context, UM, and you know, particularly in in in the context of some of the cases we'll look out later, UM that you if you are no one to this country, then no,
you cannot protect yourself. If this country regards you as it nobody, No you cannot connect to protect your family. And that's effectively what oftentimes is the case for black people. UM. Think about, for example, in the case of Brianna Taylor, um, whose you know, had his boyfriend had their house broken into by unannounced intruders who happened to be playing close police officers, and despite being a license gun owner who just thought someone was breaking in and shot at them.
Walker was charged with attempted murder of a police officer because his life. I mean, like, you know, we say Brianna Taylor's name, but his life didn't matter either. He was no one. So no, he could not protect his family me and no, he could not protect his home. Um, because I feel like it's like what he's kind of that aspect of what he's saying, it kind of rings true. It's like, but not in the way he needs and that it has different implications for like who actually has
allowed self defense in the country. Now, the thing about the Written House case, do you do you think that the Written House case is more of an issue of race and less of an issue of politics. I think it is more an issue of politics, um, because I mean, some people are under the impression that Kyle Rittenhouse went out and shot a bunch of black people and he didn't know he did not. But if you are, if you are in defensive black lives. If you are, you know,
UM antagonistic to white supremacy. UM, you are all of the second class citizen, your life doesn't matter either. That's why I think so many UM Republicans state legislatures have tried to or successfully advanced legislation to pretty much legal is UM vehicular homicide in the case of protesters blocking the streets and acts of civil disobedience, Like if you side with these folks that we have deemed disposable, you're
disposable too. Yeah, But I mean, I guess I guess that's yeah, it's right, because I just I don't know, is that is that like a political or is that is that like a or amongst racialized because like something something in me tells me that if Kyle Rittenhouse was like a Candice Owens type Trump supporter, that the right would still be galvanizing around them in in the sense of like you killed our enemy, are perceived enemies, so we love you, h And I think, yeah, I feel
like that. I feel like that's the you know, I feel like the Kyle Rittenhouse case has more of a connection with the killing of what was his name, Michael Hino. Yeah, in Portland's you know, it feels it feels like a very politically motivated situation. You know, the judge, the judge, the fence lawyers, they feel like it's it feels like
it's part of like a Maga movement thing. Yeah, you know that makes sense that that's that's the that's the aspect of it that's got me scared because it's like you know, Kyle Rittenhouse getting or getting you know, if if he's found not guilty, this is gonna just like with the you know, running over protest things. This is like the new template for how to deal with these
things now. I mean, I think what you're getting at reminds me a lot of what Michelle Alexander said the New Jim Crow about the collateral damage of the prison industrial complex and mass incarceration. That effectively, if continued subjugation of people of color requires sweeping some working class whites up into the same web, then fine, that that collateral damage is totally acceptable because US white supremacy is so
critical to uphold. And so I see a parallel here and that I think, yes, what you're saying about it being political left and right, etcetera um is salient. The racial aspect isn't like irrelevant. I just yeah, it's just like this. It's one of the end the criminal justice system saying like if yeah, if you come in defensive
black lives, you are also disposable. If you're a black person, you are disposable if you are fighting fascism like Michael reinhold um, which adherently means standing up for like marginalized peoples, even if you weren't necessarily in um I don't know, like physically defending someone's life, but ideologically are aligned with that struggle, you are disposable. We will shoot you dead
in the street without even holding a trial. And I trump, then please kill as many people as you can, right, which I think is the broader um will be the broader impact of what happened happens in this trial is like do like our you know, fascist hit right wing people emboldened to defend their country by which they mean by which they mean just gunned down leftist if they all feel threatened by them, Oh, I don't. I don't
think that that's even up in question. The next whether whether it's even it might even be like outside of that courtroom, but the next time that there's like a big protest and the next time that it has to do with like some left right Black Lives Matter or something like that, there's gonna be a lot of proud boys, like they're with guns ready to instigate some ship. Yep, yeah, so we shall see. But um, getting back to some of the details of the trial, claims, the self defense
abound on both sides. In a sense, both written House and Gross Grows, the lone survivor of the shootings are claiming to have defended themselves on trial. When he was up on the stand, written House that he reacted to seeing Grosscots Gross creates handgun though he had already shot and killed two people. Gross Crews explained at the court and he had pulled out the handcome handgun because he
thought that Rittenhouse was an active shooter. So on both sides are talking about defending themselves or defending other people. Rittenhouse claims that the shooting happened because he was cornered by the first the first shoot shooting, the first shooting, Yeah, okay. Rittenhouse claims the first shooting happened because he was cornered
by several protesters, one of whom had a gun. One of his victims after new Hubert pursued him after after the first shooting and struck Written House in the head and neck with the skateboard before being shot. During his tearful testimony, Written House claimed one of the victims could have run away instead of trying to take his gun. By that logic, if he had felt his life was endangered by the unarmed people he'd gotted down, couldn't he
have just flip? Yeah? And so like it does get sort of nebulous where it's like he felt threatened because he was cornered by self a protesters, one of whom did have a gun. Um, the person he shot was unarmed, but he felt, you know, he felt scared because he was being closed on on all sides. And then you know, you've got Anthony Huber who was killed, who could arguably, you know, Written House had a gun. So he's acted in self defense by hitting him in the head and
neck of the skateboard. But a Rittenhouse, you know, is claiming that he shot him because he was hitting him in the head for the skateboard. Um, and Georgie just goes back and forth and trying to determine who legally
is allowed to defend themselves. The thing that I just I need to just like completely focus on this case because I keep my mind keeps wondering to what is going to happen next time, which then in my head, is making this one not seem as bad as it could have been, because I do think that the next guy, if like if the next the next Kyle Rittenhouse wanna be, is like struck with the skateboard, They're just gonna start emptying off shells into the crowd, you know what I'm saying.
So it's like I guess like there's a part of me that's like, well, he didn't do that. You know what I'm saying is like the little expectations. And yeah, the verdict is expected this week, perhaps even before the show airs, and as we you know, made clear up to this point where I'm britty sure he's gonna get off. I mean, if they're they're taking away that gun charge, you know, then yeah, I don't see him facing any
consequences for this unfortunately, So we shall see. Maybe this will air the same day that the verdict is announced, and that will put a very interesting shading on this whole episode that you were listening to. Um, Yeah, yeah, let's move on to look at a little this, a little bit of this. Um, we got Travis, Michael and Greg with Michael, so they armed themselves and sped after a mod areby who was out jogging because they thought
he was a burglar. I wonder why. And they said they wanted to catch him and hold him, you know, perform citizens to rest until the police arrived. UM. When Aubrey turned and fought during the chase, UM, Travis mc michael says that he shot him in self defense, so they chased him down, and when he defended himself by allegedly attempting to grab the gun away from Travis with Michael,
Travis shot him. But now Travis is they're saying that they were defending themselves against the man they were Jason that was unarmed. I mean, it's it's like literally the Trayvon Martin situation. Likely James is somebody down and when they ch somebody, you start a fight, you getting you're getting cooked in the fight, so you you have a gun,
so then you shoot them. I feel like you're what you said earlier is true, that this is who is the aggressor in the situation is far more clear cut that we will see ultimately what the jerry has to say. And and that's all. That's all I meant is just like if if the jury, like we I mean, they've already caught the original d A and Fuckory with this case,
you know what I mean. So it's like all I mean is if the jury should come back with a bullshit verdict about this, I think from almost you know, I mean, I think like a general consensus will be like, all right, that was Fuckory. We identified that as fackory.
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, Whereas with the Kyle Rittenhouse case, you know, like I said, I think there's there's definitely people who are not in the tank for Mega or Kyle Rittenhouse who look at the situation was like I mean, you know, somebody did like try to hit him, or somebody did corner or whatever. I mean, there's people. It's just it's a lot easier for people
to rationalize the Kyle Rittenhouse sit you nation. I guess then the amount of Aubrey case, which really seems you know again, it like really seems like you know, some nine team. Like when I first heard this story was like, oh man, this is some nineteen fifties, you know, like civil civil rights eraror story that you hear about some
fucking southern yahoo's chasing down a black kiddens. Well yeah, so okay, So get this decided the citizens the rest law, which itself was approved in eighteen sixty three to round up escaped slaves and was later used to justify the lynching of black people. So putalizing that as a defense for why they pursued an attacked armory, are pursued an attacked aubrey, even if they had it killed him, it was fucked up. They were using it for exactly what
it was meant for rounding up black people. Um, this is the state law that was on the books at the time. A private person may arrest an offender if the offense is committed in his presence or within his immediate knowledge. If the offense is a felony, and the offender is escaping or attempting to escape, a private person may arrest them upon reasonable and probable grounds with suspicions. Why do you even determine that? So, I mean, let's get at the committed in his presence, which it wasn't
or within his immediate knowledge. He didn't like he wasn't which it wasn't um anyway, the tape didn't see the tape. He had heard about burglaries happening in the area, but there was no like evidence that it was arevery other than I guess, you know, just running while black was enough for them. Anyway. The law was appealed, repealed last year, effectively repealed by Governor Bryant Kemp. Oh no, it's earlier this year actually, um partially in response to Areby's killing.
But even though the repeal law has taken effect, the defense is still able to cite this old racist law since it was in effect at the time of Aarbury slang, so you know, they were invoking it at the time is to justify their actions, and so they're still able to bring it up in court as something that would would have been legal in that moment. Oh man, I mean, and there's this crazy like saying that when Travis McMichael raised a shotgun, he was hoping to deescalate the situation,
and that's what his defense attorney said. Put our return towards him swinging aggressively with his fists, like you know, it's fine, I just like if you're allowed to invoke self defense if you believe that you're going to be killed or like gravely injured. How the fuck is it commensurate to wave a shotgun at someone and just like trying to engage in fucking fisticuffs, Like because I mean, what if what if Ahmad had gotten the gun away
from them? And that's their argument they're starting to make like, oh, well, we defended ourselves because if he had gotten the gun from us, he would have killed me. Well, I mean that's what But I mean, I guess that's that's the point that I'm making, Like what if he had gotten the gun off of them? And I think I wouldn't that be self defense? I think for whom, for a
Mount Aubrey, wouldn't that have been self defense? Arguably? I mean in the Written House trial as well, he on the stand, I believe claimed that he shot because he was scared that he was going to have his gun taken away. But I was like, well, at least, but at least with Written House, like we you know, at least in his defense we actually can see like a tape of videotape of him on the ground, not shooting anybody,
being kicked and hit and then he shoots somebody. So I mean, like I said, whatever the problems are that at least that you can see you. I mean, in this case, with the amount of Aubrey, it's like you're watching the ship like he's the protagonist of the story. So it's like you want him to not die. And the only way that that can happen is if he defends himself and gets the gun off of those guys and kills that. Yeah, I guess I don't know, man,
but anyway, so don't stop people. Just don't stop people. It does, yeah, drive as a. Michael as father, Gregory McMichael, and their pal William Murati Brian Jr. Are charged with malice and tell any murder um for the killing of Arevery in Brunswick, Georgia, February of last year. They also face charges for aggravated assault, false imprisonment and a criminal attempt to commit a felony, and they have all pleaded not guilty, though if convicted, each man because base life
in prison without the possibility of parole. Now ultimately the jury, the jury will have to consider the moments before the shotgun blasts rang out and decide which man was the aggressor and therefore not legitimately acting in self defense. Yeah, given the eleven of the twelve jurors, and what is art, you know, I'll give it, give him this. It's majority white Glenn County, but it's black representative black man. So while it makes a lot, it's well, it does seem
a lot more clear cut to us. How don't eleven of the twelve jurors or white in South Georgia. His defense lawyer is wild And I don't know if y'all have heard about this, but okay, so Ahmad Aubrey's family met with Al Sharpton right and the defense attorney was making a big deal about that because he was like, yeah, man, I'll Sharpton is intimidating and blah blah blah the jury blah blah blah. Then Jesse Jackson came to visit, and like the defense attorney was straight up like, I think
we've had enough black pastors ball nail situation here. Oh my god, oh my pastors. Yeah, so that's why we're dealing ones right now. Yeah, I mean it's like, you know, at least, like I said, it would be one thing. That's just the defense attorneys so the defense attorneys need to defend their clients ship like that, but you're gonna do whatever. Yeah, and let's not forget that the McMichael's
and Brian were not even charged at first. In fact, in August, a grand jury indicted former Glen County District Attorney Jackie Johnson, accusing your showing favor and affection to one of the men now charged with Avery's killing and for directing police opport officers not to arrest another suspect. So pretty much like burying the tape that we have all now seen and saying like, oh no, the food
to go. It's cool And I hate that I forget this, But did this not did this only come to light because I know what happened before, right, So, so Harbury was killed in February, and I think in March, right around when Brianna Taylor's killing kind of blew up. Also belieatedly is when the tape of yeah a mom getting shot came out and people started losing their ship. So yeah, like they were, they were. I mean, there's a there's a good chance that if George Floyd hadn't died, then
we never would even this trial might not even be happening. Yeah, like that never even would have been a thing. Yeah speaking much so like um, you know, but going back to Brianna Taylor Walker was her boyfriend was charged immediately with attempted murder a police officer, and the chargers were only dropped after months of advocacy and national media attention, much like how I mean Michaels were only arrested and
brought to trial because of huge public pressure. And so if we have to mount historic collective action just to get the justice system to do what it is supposed to do, what in the literal fuck is it for? Just think on that this wonder. We'll give you time consider. Okay, consider the killing of DeMarcus Carter in summerlad, Nevada in the spring of two thousand twelve. A resident of the majority white neighborhood suspective Carter of trying to break in
and shot and killed Carter, who was unarmed. The killer claimed self defense, and his claim was never evaluated by a jury. Becuts. Police and prosecutors saw the claim of self defense as strong enough not to even warrant a charge. Killer told police that he saw Carter outside his back door.
Believe Carter was breaking into his home, shot him dead, and unlike the death I prayed on martin Florida only a month earlier, Carter's death received very little media cups coverage, and none of the coverage raised any questions about the validity of the killer's self defense claim. And so I bring this up because I feel like this happens a lot more often than we realize. But like, just for sure, I mean, most of the names that we say today we're taken in the name of self defense, albeit by
police officers. So Michael Brown, Eric Gardner, Davis, Jordan Davis, to mere Rice Walter Scott, Blando Castillo, On Sterling Baltham, Jean Stephan Clark, Lukawa McDonald, the list goes on and on. Now, um, there was a case recently where a man I do believe that this one was in Florida, but a guy got convicted of murder because he some teams broke into his house and he killed them. Investigators were able to go back and pretty much essentially see that he created
what they described as like a deer trap. Pretty much, what the fuck for these kids to walk into state and everything. They've got recordings of him like talking to them like as they died, which is pretty much what stealed his fade is how they know that it was premeditated, but he was actually he tried to he tried to give self defense than your ground thing. But they were just able to see with his elaborate home alone style like Trapp, that it was premeditated. That's so insane. I
heard her. I had heard about that story. I didn't realize that. God damn, it got even got even darker. Yeah, Jesus Christ. Well, getting into a bit of thinking about like, yeah, prettily like with all made every case. Um. I read this article recently by Eddie Rolnick and the Cardozo Law Review, which snaps the relationships between residential segregation, violence, and criminal law. So like, effectively, in a sense, the McMichael's were enforcing
what they believed to be. I mean, they were enforcing residential segregation. It's no longer a matter of redlining or you know, discriminatory home loans or restrictive covenant saying who can't live in certain houses? And all of that got
wiped out, supposedly. So now, like there's a lot of cases like with DeMarcus what's his name, sorry, DeMarcus Carter like with a more degree where you have people you know invoking self defense to violently and you know in the force who is and who is not allowed to be in certain areas and roll Nick says, while the laws governing stranger self defense are facially raised, neutral self defense is assessed only according to whether defendant's fear is
reasonable to the reviewing prosecutor, judge, and jury. Research on unconscious bias and cultural myths about criminality demonstrate that fear is racially contingent. One factor that can support both objective and objective assessments a threat is whether a person looks out of place, making a black person in a white neighborhood even more likely to be the object of fear.
The last creative framework really legitimizes white fear of strangers who look racially out of place and condones violence based on that fear. The framework, in turn helps normalize neighbor
on neighbor surveillance, police state. Even if a person is not actually threatened or afraid, she's going to invoke the framework of fear based racial out of placeness and can expect the police or the jury will be sympathetic and so I feel like this relates to the case of that bird watcher in Central Park or whatever, or the lady, the white lady calls the cops on him, because like,
what are blackbird watchers I think of in my own neighborhood. Um, this gentleman who I ran into the gas station, who tearfully, you know, described having lived on the street down the street from my old house. Um, who was out walking with his walking stick, and someone called the cops on him because they thought he had a weapon, and he got surrounded by cop cars in the neighborhood where he had always own up or he'd always lived. Um. But
that is gentrifying. And so you know, white people coming in and making claims to these spaces and using you know, racial out of placeness um to invoke either state violence or in themselves using violence in order to enforce um, the new segregation. But yeah, it's all comes back to some fundamental questions. Can Black Americans exercise their secondmentment right to bear arms? Can we stand our ground? Can we claim self defense in shooting someone who threatens us with
physical harm? Does the Castle doctrine which grants a person they're right to use deadly force to protect their home from an intruder applied to us, I mean, obviously the answer is now at least not fully or at least whatever I mean, whatever it is, it's not a definitive yes to any of those questions. I think that if you look at the criminal justice system as a cascade of like decision points. UM. I think that at various ones along that in that in that waterfall that it's
you know, that terminates in imprisonment. There the answer is no. So whether or not uh prosecutor decides to pull it, you know, um press charges. In the case of DeMarcus Carter, they didn't even choose the press charges against the man who killed him. Um. But you bet your ask. A lot of fucking black people are getting prosecuted for crimes that others aren't even or just walking away with murder. Um. Then there's getting to trial. And then you what if you have and all like at eleven out of two,
all of your re jurors are white. Um, if you don't have great representation because you can't afford it, and at that point, you know, they just someone can easily decide and more often than not decide that no. You weren't allowed, um not to mention just so your initial interaction with the cops. The cops like you know, in the case of a mod are very who showed up to the scene and the guy, you know, I'm one
of the Michael's, the former police officer. They probably also thought it was sketchy that there was a black guy jogging in a white neighborhood and we're like, well, free to go. So at all these various points, the answer is generally no. And if it's not no at the you know, if it's not no at the end, it's still no in the middle, or no at the beginning,
or no at some point. No. What do you think about the like the common denominator in all of these situations, which is guns and people owning them and perhaps being a bit too overzealous with the I have complicated feelings about guns, and we've talked about this on the show before, where gun control laws are historically racist as well, again determining you know, who can and cannot bear arms not being applied uniformly across the races, So any attempts to
bar certain bar people from owning guns. Ultimately, I don't know disproportionately impacting honestly folks that need them. UM, because I think guns will always exist around. UM. I'll get
I'll you know, go ahead and get to the story. Um. The other day, I was out in like the hood near my house, and me and a couple other dudes were like out, uh, discreeting kids as I got on the school bus because there's been a lot of fighting on the school bus um lately, So we're just like talking to them, hyping them up for their day that
at a uh. And so I was I'm walking around this like, how's he got to having his dude, he told me a story of his brother, who had served lengthy jail sentence for drug dealing, had been out in the streets getting fights with people. He was a big kingpin. People knew him. He had a lot of enemies. Got out of jail. He's a felon, so he couldn't have um, couldn't you know own a couldn't own a gun anymore, shot and killed by rivals on the day that he
left jail. So the people who live in I mean, like, okay, I guess you could say, oh, well, you take all the guns off the street and the people are shooting each other. Well, there's be a legal market for anything always, and so saying certain kinds of people can have guns, like felons who do live in in dangerous and violent areas or have dangerous and violence connections, they can't defend
themselves if they can't get guns. Well, I mean, I don't want to make the conversation straight too far into guns and stuff like that, because yeah, we all circle
back around to that, but I will. I just feel like, man, you know, every time the gun stuff comes up, it's like I just feel like if if the government whoever is in power, like really felt to themselves like tomorrow, all right, this gun stuff is out of control, then I just feel like it would be really hard to get ahold of a gup, like if they wanted you to.
You know, I don't understand how people see all these fucking wild as conspiracies for like everything, but then the fact that it's just like there there aren't any there's barely any gun laws and there's like just guns are just flowing through the country like skittles like every like everyone like looks at that like there's there's no conspiracy there that that's definitely not they want us all to kill each other. Like, that's not That's not what's happening,
you know what I mean? There could be an element of that. I don't know. I really thought about it from that through that lens very much, but I started to digress. We digressed real hard. But let's get into let's turn down and talk a little bit about a couple of famous stories from hip hop. Is this gonna be technically the music discussion? No, we got a couple of songs for y'all at the end. But um, first, that's the story of Shine. It was a Beliezing born
rapper on did He's label the ninety nineties. You remember him, Yeah, So last year he opened up on The Fat Joe Show about his club shooting. Um did He and Shine We're at a nightclub in Manhattan and they spotted some mother rappers with whom the hell any baby? Uh. The interaction was fine at first, but then it turned into an argument, and Shine thought he saw one of the other main men reached for a gun, so he reached for his and began firing to arguably to defend himself
and his friends. Shine told that Joey feared for his life and to this day maintains that he did what he had to do to protect his people. Did He and Shine were tried in separate trials. I guess, like, I don't know. Did. He can't remember if he was like assaulted the guy hands got thrown or yelling and Nelsen say did. He had the best lawyers and was ultimately acquitted of all charges. Sean, on the other hand, I found guilty on two counts of assault, reckless endangement
in gun possession and was sad. It's ten years in prison. It was later actually, when he got out, deported to his home country of the Belize, and in a random turn of events that is weirdly relevant to the show, Sean was elected to the Belize and House of Representatives in general elections. Ending to the story. I'm trying to look it up now, but you know, I think Sean might have hit somebody in the club. Did he I
think I think he hit a girl. I don't know that for for certain, but I just know that he got ten years for a reason. Oh like, oh he shot. No, I don't think he can. I mean not like you. Nobody got here. I don't think anybody got hurt. No, we just shot and people started running. And so because if it would have been like homicide or some it if he killed somebody, for sure, I don't think anybody died. I don't think I died. I swore that somebody get hit.
Like maybe maybe I don't. I don't remember exactly, but um, yeah, to this day, he says he, you know, had to do what he had to do, even though he was convicted and served ten years in prison. Yeah, I mean, what do you think about it? Like, well, I think that I think that if I'm never in favor of people busting off in the crowds, I'm just not just fact, that's fact. If you're if you're in a crowd of people, maybe don't start shooting. It's always been a frown on
that man. I just I don't like. I hate. I hate that whole notion of people thinking that their ship is more what they got going on is more important than everybody else's ship. And then when it leads to people getting like shot or hit by your drunk driving, so you know what I mean, Like, I just don't like that sort of ship. So yeah, I think yeah, yeah, I mean, especially the reckless endangerment large like even if
he was defending himself. Those people who were in the club that started running for their lives didn't do ship exactly. They had not to do with what your beef was. And if if if I'm if, I'm you know I could If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. But if I'm not wrong, and somebody did get shot, even if it was in the baby toe, that baby toe would have been there had you asked not started popping off. So you know what I mean? Um, And we can't forget the biggest crime that came out of that, which that you made.
Fucking j Low realized she was hanging around street niggas and her and didd he broke up. All right, that's the true crime here, man. She was like, no, this love cost the thing. I'm out most. Anyway, let's talk about t X T I next rubber band man. All right? So t I, who influously got arrested by the A T F agents the two thousand seven BT Hip Hop Awards. Tip was caught trying to buy machine guns, silencers and other arms that he was can that he um in
other arms. As he was a convicted felon, he couldn't legally acquire them. The rapper argued that the guns were for protection in the light of the murder of his best friend, Philette Johnson, who in two thousand six was gunned down in a van. He and t I were writing it after performance in Cincinnati. So I mean, there's like despite, Okay, so he's a felon, he can't have guns, but he has like a legit reason to be in front of his life if his best friend just got
fucking murdered in front of him a year before. But no, you can't defend yourself because you got you. You're a fellon, so you can't have gone. So we're gonna pick you up with the bat aboards kind of whack. I don't know, it's whack. It's I I just wish that the stories are just more clear cut. Why was TI buying silencers? He was scared silencers though, Like silencers aren't I'm scared for my life, silencers. I'm coming to get you. That's again maybe getting hung up on that one detail, and yeah,
you know, like stop bad back. I don't want to get hung up on that one detail. But this story just hits me different. If I'm reading t I was afraid for his life because his friend got killed and the cops went and picked him up while he was trying to buy the machine guns. Then I'm like, have you ever bought something? Have you ever bought something unnecessary because it made you feel better? Yeah? Yeah I have.
So I'm not saying he was like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna drop them like you know, like real quiet. Nobody's gonna. No, It's just like I'm asking what I would agree it's in the scene, obscene amount of weaponry, out of out of fear, just like I want all the ship, Give me all the ship, give me all the machine guns, give me all silencers. I'll get me all the ship because I'm terrified. Now is there do Is there nothing that is Is there no aspect of their shame or perhaps how we feel about the as
celebrities that might be influencing some of our views on that. Oh, absolutely buy us out, because I just mean, if Larry the Cable Guy before Larry the Cable Guy, keep bringing him out in these analogies, but I feel like if Larry the Cable Guy got pulled over at the Country Music Award with a pickup truck filled with fucking infrared beams and silencers and scopes of machine guns. The police would tap him up and fucking let him go, is what I'm saying. But and that's fucked up on the police.
But I want to know about that because I'm like, damn, you know what. I don't like the idea of this rich fucking dude buying all these guns to circulate back in whatever fucking poor communities from because I just I don't know. But I mean, again, that's what that's my bias, and they're just trying to give full disposure. That could be my bias of like not believing that you know,
people need thirty seven guns to defend himself. Ye and maybe just like four, maybe just like full of speaking of defending yourself once again, we talked a little bit about Trayvon earlier. But there's another, um someone infamous case of someone invoking the Florida standil ground law UM when in two thousand fourteen, Jordan Davis got into a confrontation with a white man at a gas station in Florida who said davis rap music was too loud and ultimately
fired shots into Davis's car, killing him. The man claimed he thought David had a gun, but the killer was eventually convicted of murder and it was kind of beautiful. It's forgiven in court by Davis's mother, who went on to become a gun control epic it and then successfully run for Congress. And Georgia's some district I forgot seven nope, eight, nope, I don't remember. He's in Congress now doing some ship. She's getting that Boomberg money and ship. Go get your boom.
But but like gun control, oh yeah, she was like all with you know, what's their names? Um? You know, yeah, you know those you know it's mostly wide ladies. What's what are they called? Oh? The I know you're talking about like moms against moms. The mom's demand action, like she's with them. Yeah, And so I think it's important though, I mean, I don't even know if I want to say.
I think the advocacy is important. But it's just like, you know, even in that situation, you've got the racial situation, you've got, but at the end of the day, a fucking idiot who had a gun, yeah, was the was
the thing. And it's just like you can you can you can change the scenario, you can change the racism genders of everybody, like you can do everything, it all comes down to somebody having a gun that shouldn't have a gun, and that being the issue, Like that's a fucking that's a that's a like an old white dude getting cussed out at the gas station. Who should have guns?
I don't. I don't know you like, you know, obviously I don't have the fun that's like an answer is to who should be allowed to have the guns or stuff like that. But obviously, you know, in a country that's as big as this one, um, in a country that's as obsessed with like celebrity and notoriety and fame as the one that we live into, you know, I'm not saying who should have it or you shouldn't, but it's just like obviously this ship is meeting tragic resolves
at this point, you know what I mean. And it's just like it's just too many people dying needlessly from this show. I mean it, obviously there's there's there's way broader discussions to be had, There's way more specific and
nuanced discussions to be had about it. But again, you know, it's like just just this case, we we could we could talk about that that situation with Jordan Davis, and we could get into like a real deep, interesting, meaningful racial conversation, right and and we can we can get
into all these conversations out of this. But the one conversation that like is irrefutable is a dude, somebody had a gun that like obviously wasn't responsible for it, because like, if you own a gun and you're capable of like getting into an argument with somebody, an argument and then that makes you shoot them, then you shouldn't have had it. How about that? It's like, those are the people that shouldn't have a gun. Oh no, man, it's a nuance session.
We'll do a whole episode on this sometime, but for now, I'm sorry you god, Let's get into the music discussion, couples. Let's take a little break before we do that. Okay, we'll go. Let's do it. We'll be back right after the job with the musical discussion. All right, we are back before I really cut off my bed. I'm sorry. Well, we're gonna get into the music discussion. H First off, talking about self defense from Dilated People's off the album
expansion team. Let's play a little bit of sciral quick what could we don't know? We showed the kid and the fish beat the treat might find interesting about particularly the first verse, as he seems Rocket seems to be like describing like an altercation, a physical altercation. I'm like, oh, what could it provoked? You don't make me feed the fish, feed the trees, feed the vulture, talking about you know,
responding with violence. But then he gets into a block, flows with strikes and strikes with blows, a slice flows with my mike. It shows a counterattack and turn the tables in an instant, move out of range and step close and step into the wait, move out of range
and step into the distance, something like that. So it's actually more oft into seeming like he's using his verbal prowess to in essence this de escalated conflict to removing it from physical altercation intil a verbal artistic even one which I think was what a part of what um like freestyle was initially meant to do. Of Like you got beef with somebody, um, bring it, bring it to the cipher, Like all right, let's battle talk shit, don't shoot each other. Just come up here and just like
you know, smack about their mama or whatever. Well, I mean, you know, did you forget the guns? But just like you know in our in America that there's a lot of people who are who walk around like that just accept that, like using violence is like an actual like way to solve problems, you know what I mean. And I think something like with with just the whole theme of the song is kind of like how unnecessary that is,
you know what I mean? And I think that's what he's kind of what that That's what that section means to me, where it's like there's more, there's there's better ways to settle differences into to prove yourself or just like there's there's better ways to make yourself get the one up on somebody, and it's not necessarily like yeah, I'm gonna beat the shift out of a Bible or I'm gonna sucking shoot him or get into a fight
or something like that. Like you know, we're like thinking breathe and human beings that could do more than just like the fucking base level ship. I'm gonna go on
somewhat of a tangent, but it matters. So I've been studying lately and I may have brought this up on the show sort of the way that gun violence has been come to has come to be seen by public health experts as a as an epidemic and not just like oh, in the sense of gun violence adversely impacts people's health because they're getting fucking shot, but actually starting
to think about violence as a virus. So when you're exposed to violence, you then contracted, and then you spread it to other people by letting your trauma manifest in
more violence against others. And so taking that framing and you know, the way that the we publicly have come to understand viruses throughout the pandemic, think about, all right, how do you how do you stop the spread of this virus um you like you interrupt in escal conflicts and also change norms around conflict resolution, So getting out in the community and maybe getting us back to a place where we are using verbal jousting to sort of
inject levity into our conflicts by like, all right, let's have a rap battle, bringing us back to that rather than the place we are now where gun violence is almost fetishized. Yeah, and like it's it's gonna be so hard, I mean, especially from like a hip hop standpoint, to get back to that because like I remember when you could listen to you could listen like a gangster rapper
who talking about drive bys and blah blah blah. But even even then, like you would hear like lines about how like yo, we can put the guns down and I'll beat your ass, you know what I mean. And it's like now, I mean there's like two references in particular from like notable big rappers in songs where they're like, yeah, fun that fight and should we're just gonna kill you?
Like you know what I mean, like that like that's the flex and it's you know, it's it's shipped like that the mega motherfucker feel like damn am I like sixty seven because that feels like super new new, Like what that's what That's what we're talking about. Like motherfucker's like literally rappid about how they're scared to fight and
they would rather just shoot you. Yeah. Another another norm shifting experiment that I read about recently, And if you give me a second, I'm gonna try to actually bring up the details. Oh this this thing called guns Down squabble up in Los Angeles where when people and there's like oh, yo, I heard Zone was gonna like come
over and spread your spot. They go get the people and bring them to a place to box and have like a public boxing match between folks that are beef in as a way to settle disputes without resorting to picking up guns. Because it's like you like, it's really it's kind of hard to kill a nigga, but I just like punch them in the head a lot. I mean,
you can do it. But particularly if like a bunch of people are standing around watching you all like fight, you know, you can like just determine, oh, ship, like this person won and walk away from it was nobody killed. Yeah, I mean if if like fights had any if fights had any sort of like you know, alarming rate of like people dying in like fist fights and scraps and altercations, then like, yeah, half the population would be dead right now.
So it's like, from at least that standpoint, if two people get upset about each other for whatever reason, for whatever reason, even if even if it's like oh man, I hit you, I'm gonna grab this bat and come at you, it's just factually a less efficient way to kill someone. So the chances are that somebody's not going
to die. Some you might get hurt, somebody might get seriously injured and wounded, like you know, so it's like just it's not like an issue for like the conservative straw man's of like, oh, what about a knife and you can kill Like yeah, you can kill somebody with anything, but it's like, what makes it easier for you to kill someone? Like yeah, And I know we're it feels like we're getting a little bit away from the topic
of self defense of the episode. I think it still matters because if somebody, somebody kills your family member and you wonder if you're next, and you decide to go get them first in retaliation, it is in essence a kind of self defense and that you fear for your life because of you know, like surviving shooting attempt or losing someone, and so figuring out how we resolve these resolve these squabbles without resorting to gun violence is still
also addressing the question of how do we defend ourselves?
But with the self defense, I mean even even the no ship of self defense in America as we understand it, it's something that's a derivative of our fear of guns, you know what I'm saying, Like the dude who set up the deer trap thing that I was talking about, Yeah, that was premeditated murder, but like it was premeditated murdered that he was like it was a plot that he cooked up because he figured, Man, if somebody breaks into your house, then I can acceptably say I feared for
my life because they might have had a gun and being able to harm you. Right, yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like like if like that's what it's all comes. If two people are getting a fight, like like a zimmer Zimmerman in in uh Trayvon Martin getting into a fight, Zimmerman being like, I feared for my life. Like he can say that, and on one hand, it's like, okay, well he's fighting this guy, so he thought that the
guy was going to get the upper hand. But then the other thing that goes into the mind of a jury that could have quit somebody like that is like, oh, well, I mean it's America and there's three million guns out there, so maybe he thought that the person had a gun. And then that's a reasonable fear that he had. When cops pull people over and shoot them willy nilly, it's because because you know, not again, not giving any benefit
of the doubts the cops. But I mean one thing that cops can definitely have in their head that's a fact, is like a anybody you pull over might have a gun. That's just a fact because by the nature of the country that we lived in. So, you know, I think like, even though we are trying, you know, I don't want to get us too far off of the self defense thing. And this is about self defense. I think that that the gun play in America definitely feeds into that because
like everybody's got self defense laws. They are just like ready for self defense all the time. But let's get into this next song, Kwondo Rondo's end of story. So Chicago rapper King Vaughan was shot and killed had a nightclub in Atlanta back in when was it October? I believe um allegedly after an altercation with Kwando Rondo and his crew. So now um or since then? Uh, Kwanda Rondo seems to have told his side of the story in his song end up story. So let's just do
it real quick. Yeah, why you scream myself? So he you know, he starts off accusing fans for acting like the police. Um. He says nowadays, it's like the fans doing the police job. Y'all talk that gangster ship, but cry when the nigga get knocked, you post a walk in how you talk it but ship. So then got my point across. So we sort of like talking about people who you know, we're calling him out and you know you like, yo, you killed niggu um being snitches
in essence? Um, he goes on, has really don't understand the concept of snitching. And they they use the word snitches like conservatives use cancel culture and wilkeness. They just throw that ship around for anything, like all right, yeah, um, he goes on. He references Timothy Leaks, who was charged with Melanie murder and King Vaughan's death. Um, you know, defending him, saying, you know, we had to make it home. Uh you know, I'm riding with a little Timmy right
or wrong and stuff like that. So saying pretty much that his friend who was charged with the murder of this other mapper was just offending them. Um. And he goes on next part, he actually encourages people to look at little Timmy right and right or wrong, I think his buddy says. So even whether it's so I'm translating that is whether or not he was just to fight and kill him the guy in the fight or not
he's righting was dog. Yes, yeah, I mean that's valain. Um. Did he encourage people to look at the surveillance camera footage, UM, which appears to show King Von initiating the conflict. Um, you know, damn right, we screaming self defense. Shouldn't have never put his hands on me. Look at the footage, that's all evidence. See them pussy negus shouldn't have run up on me. Um, so again alleging self defense, saying that the other guy was the aggressor and they just
try to protect themselves. I mean, it's it's gonna be along the lines of what I was saying before, um all throughout this, which is like I mean, at the end of the day, is it's all stupid ship. But like I would have much rather that this has just been a fight between some rappers. Well, I think what ends up happening is that one person isn't around to argue their side of whether or not they were. And
that's what happened. When we remember when we covered the baby case, his shooting thing that he had years ago is the same sort of situation where it's like you only hear one side of the story, and I'm walking around for years thinking, Okay, this is part of the legend of the baby, and then you find out not even you find out, but it's just like you look more into the story, it's like, oh, no, that person who died had a mother and a brother and a sister and witnesses of their own who all saw some
different ship, you know what I mean, So like like it's just it's just it just really fucking makes me angry that, like, this can't just be a Jerry Springer situation where like one crew says we didn't start it, and this crew says we didn't start it, And a couple of dudes got a fat lip and another guy has like a broken wrist or something like that, and everybody went to booking and now they're outside beefing with each other on the internet and yeada YadA, Like I
would much rather it be that then oh man, you shouldn't have should have touched me. Now it's trying to cap like yeah, and and and again, like Homie might have been fearing for his life, he one me probably was fearing for his life. The reason he was fearing her life is because he didn't know whether those motherfucker's had guns. Yeah. Um. The last thing I want to talk about is I think, I mean, like God classic, only God can judge me by twocock off of all
lies on me in and particularly this one line. And I think the was it the first verse? Listen to it real quick point. No such things the self defense in the tour, the loss of judges. When we get to win across that's where you so on the third verse, rapping for Trey says, um, ain't no such thing as self defense in the court of loss or judges. When we get to where we're going, wearing a cross, starts
off by saying, what, let's you say? Oh yeah, would you be wrong for bucking the nigga to the pavement? You're gonna give me first, so um if I don't get them full started praying um, which I just thought I just had that second the power he says, you know, you know such thing as self defense in the court of law, So judge. When we get to wherever wewhere in the cross, it's kind of a reversal of the line that you know, people say I'd rather be judged by twelve than carried by six sort of been blind.
Since there's no justice in the system of criminal justice and judgment can only come in the afterlife, you might as well fucking pull guns because if you die, you actually get judge fairly versus and you go to court, which is so bleak. It's ill because, like I mean, you have. Tupac had a very very notable self defense case that he actually got got off on on the ground of self defense when he shot two police officers who were Yeah, I mean, I guess I talk himself defense.
They were unlawfully trying to harm him, and he defend himself and he shot them. Um. Oh, speaking of shooting cops, Bob Marley's I shot the sheriff. Oh yeah, I almost forgot this one. Had a hip hop song, but nonetheless very influential. Um is the third track on side one of his album Burnon, And I didn't know this before. The song is actually apparently about birth control. Did you
know this? Okay? So, Jamaican filmmaker and actress Esther Anderson, who was once Marley's girlfriend, said she helped Marley write the song and said the line in which Marley sings about Sheriff John Brown hating him and always wanting to kill the seeds. He planted was about Marley being against
her use of birth control during their relationship. Really supposedly, but according to Marley and writing the song, he wanted to use the phrase I shot the police, but in said I shot the sheriff, because he thought to be less inflammatory, thought that, you know, the authorities would have created a fuss if he said I shot the police, So we decided to use the other phrase to avoid unnecessary issues. So like he was like, I mean, there there may have been a metaphor implanted there and blended
um about you know, some other relationship ship. But I mean, ultimately the song is I think remembered as that. That's I mean, I'm not saying that's dope. I just mean like that trivia is dope trivia if true, if true, you know. But yeah, that's all we got for this week. Wasn't there? Wasn't there a rap version? Was there a represion? I feel like warrenge G, hold up, let me yep, yep, yep, warrenge G did one me? We can we add an amendment to this can we add another song here? I'm
about to post the link in the thing you're check. Oh, I remember the show? You know what? We don't even got it. I'm sorry, I'm going all over the place right now. But like we forgot literally the most famous hip hop song about self defense, Warrenge's Regulators. Oh ship like Warrens Regulators is literally about self defense, God damn, literally about something that you know what this is. It's too many and we have been going for a long time.
It's too many songs. Just check out the playlist on the Dope Knife Spotify, and you guys can check out all the songs that we have listed on today and some of the other ones that didn't make the cut, and also past episodes and stuff like that. But um, yeah, I can't believe I didn't even think about that ship for something like. I'm so mad at myself because that should have been the first thing that I said when you said that we should do an episode on self defense. Man,
I'm slipping slipping anyway. You know what? Doesn't ever slip the wraps ever? Do they never? Joe, my good sir, can you give us a beat? Feeling like? Brother Malcolm'm gonna pick into the blind trying to people around the street to see who's creeping in the ride. But if it's one of them, I ain't freak them. Now. I've been the fined on my eye until the weekend. One has died, and this is why I ain't sleeping in
the night. I was thinking that I might have to keep them in my sight and defend my castle from trigger happy assholes and the pinch. But I'd rather be judged by twelve and carry but six like well francaations, like share, subscribe, bitches, see you next week. Piece Winning on Reparations is a production of I Heeart Radio. For more podcasts or my heart Radio, check out the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts.