Bolsonaro Trumps Brazil Pt. 1

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as the movie. We watched the movie Watchman. I love both of those. Oh so good, oh so good. We should people hit on the Watchman movie though. How how it's so good? I don't know. I don't know. I thought that show it was dough. Well, I am glad to have you back. Everybody out there. I've been good, Joe. I mean as far as like all this, I've been, you know, just trying to hold it down in your

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up get into the T shirt game like that. But we're about to have some of that stuff for y'all soon. But um, I mean ship, we've been waiting a month. Let's get into it. Let's get into the first official episode that the two of us have done in a while. A minute last week doesn't count. That was that was some stock pilot ship. Yeah, but yeah, this week really

talking about UM JR. Polsonaro, who in any ways is considered the Trump of the traffics um from his hateful rhetoric against women in gays, denial, COVID science, conservative economic and social agenda down to reason concern that the right wing leader, who is beloved by Brazilian military and police, might say decou and try to keep control of the government when presumably he gets ousted in the upcoming Brazilian

presidential election. But how similar are Trump and Bosonaro? Really would want to get into the details that is the topic of today's conversation, which we will get into right after the joke. Okay, so we are back. So we're talking about Bostonaro today, and I mean this is in the midst of you know, there's a couple of these trump ish sort of figures around the world, pretty much dudes who are running their countries like they're fucking organized

trimm ires essentially. You know, obviously we all know Putin, you know, Homy in the Philippines. What's his name again, do Tarte? You've got uh, the guy in Belarus who, yeah, Lucashenko, they pretty much stage the coup. Who else he got air to Juan and the Turkey. Um, I do believe Poland has a trump ish figure in any event, You've got a rash of these guys over the world, and Bosonaro is just another one in that line of cats who are doing that thing. Okay, So let's get to

this question a little more deeply. Who is jar Bosonaro. He was elected to the presidency in eighteen as a member of Brazil's Social Liberal Party. After several decades as the Brazilian equivalent of what we might consider a congressman. Now, Bosonaro had been a vocal opponent of same sex marriage and homosexuality, abortion affirmative action. He's an opponent of drug decriminalization and in essence, the it hates fun environment. Yeah,

he apparently has beef with the environment. I don't know, I don't know. Yeah, under his leadership, it's overseen a spike and deforestation in Amazon. Last year, I get the ship, the Amazon in Brazil lost an area fourteen times the size of New York City ship, which is the greatest decline the forces seen in twelve years. So just hates environment, hates gays, hates women, anybody NW drugs, walking talk. Yeah, and yeah, I feel like, um, yeah, it's like a

cartoon villain almost. Yeah, it's like if it's like he's what, he's kind of what a lot of motherfucker's in America. Imagine that they're they're living with you know what I'm saying. With Trump, I would say he's worse. To be honest, it's leg kind of scary. Like he's spoken favorite torture

and violent revolt against the democratically elected governments. Um. He said in interview, elections won't change anything in this country, Well, only change in the day that we break out in civil war here and do the job of the military regime didn't do killing thirty thousand people. If some people die, innocent people die, that's fine. Every war, innocent people die. So there you go. That is the current president of Brazil.

What do you think about that? Well, I mean, like as someone that like keeps tabs on various like strains of leftist thought, like there are people that are totally over like touralism and like, yo, we just gotta like have a revolution or something like that. But very rarely did you hear or you like, have you find someone who asked that's to say that in a scenario like that, the people rise up and see the government back, like thousands of people will die, like hands down and so.

But like, something that's weird to me about this quote is that he seems to relish it like he's like stoked that thousands of people like could die in civil war in his country. This is where are like the nuance, Like my nuance kind of starts to go out of the window when it comes to the sur stuff. These cats this is like baked into their ship, you know

what I mean. Like these cats are in a way like fantasizing about the worst case scenario where they feel, oh, man, now I got the green light to kill lots of people. So it's like all this like revolution Mary talking ship

like that. To me, it's like one side is talking about revolution and think pieces and on like YouTube videos, and the other side is like literally hiding in the bushes, training with guns, imagining the day that they're going to get to do some wild ship you know, Oh, we're gonna transform society and make it an egalitarian like paradise. And then the other side it's like, oh, so words gonna break out, Oh we haven't revolutions, Oh I got to just go gun people down in the streets. And

they're like superstars about that. I heard about a case not too long ago. I mean, and this is kind of taking it from Brazil, taking a backstage side, but um, just in a nutshell, there were some neighbors who were having you know, dispute, and one group of neighbors had a Biden sign and the other neighbor was a Trump supporter, and he went into the house and gutting them down. This happened like maybe like a week or two after the election. But I think just now starting to get

into the trout phase and show like that. But I mean that's not like a I don't think that's an isolated incident, you know what I'm saying. And I don't think it's indicative of like scattered isolated incidents. Like the current right wing ideology is one that's like implicitly violent, you know what I'm saying. So, so what I find

interesting about like comparing his bedic. Sure, this is an old interview almost you know, two decades old, um, but comparing him to like Donald Trump, I feel like Donald Trump has like a just like a cavalier sense of just like disregard for human life or it's like, you know, if people die, people die. I don't I can't think of an example where he was like, yeah, let's go out and murder thousands of people in the streets. That'll

be lit they. I mean, it's it's come out that he did want to give like have the army intervened during the Black Lives Matter protests, like he he really did want them to start shooting people in the street. I mean, I don't know if there's a specific let's skill, but I mean Homie and the way I look at it is Donald Trump, and by that that part with Republicans, they straight up smooth watch six thousand people die smooth, like didn't didn't flitch. So I don't think it's I

don't think it's it's beyond though to to talk like that. Yeah, I've been talking about you. But like I guess, like their willingness to say something like that's out in the open, because like even if they had discussions about gunning down protests rising last summer, probably happening behind closed doors, out in public, they want to pretendarly they didn't say like that.

So is that like a different level of blood lust, is at a different level of political savvy, or like maybe Trump and his handlers might know it's probably a smart thing to say out the public. I don't know. I'm not sure, but I feel like that is a place where these two diverge a little bit in like

strategy or crazingness. Conditions are also important factor and differentiating the two is that Trump has a lot of potential to do what Balsonaro has been able to do, you know what I mean, Like, like like Brazil has been a fashion Brazil was fascist in the eighties. Already you know what I mean. So it's like what he's trying to make it be. They've been that before, so that

door is kind of open there to begin with. And then just he has more enablers, you know, the the institutions, not not every country has the institutions that are sturdy enough, as America has proved to be the last four years, and ship like that. So when you have somebody who's poking and prodding if the ship is not sturdy enough, he's more successful of doing things like changing laws and changing constitutions and doing those things to keep himself in power.

So he's just he's enabled a lot more than Trump is too. Yeah, we've talked about a bunch of people like math death, speaking of which UM Brazil has very consistently ranked second in the world for um COVID nineteen deaths. UM Over the question of pandemic another thing that the

leadership of our presidents have held in common. UM Bolsonaro from the start has the little the pandemic and earlier this year had several videos removed from YouTube for spreading misinformation about the coronavirus, which had parallels in a certain sense to UM. You know, Trump getting flagged on Twitter for like talking shit about like detoxy clorican or never

that a reel um. In July, one day after announcing that he attests pop positive for nineteen, Boston came wonder fire for allegedly using homophobic language to mock the use of face masks, namely saying that masks were for fairies. Okay, anyway. He later posted a tweet including a picture in which he appears to be smiling and giving it thumbs up

while brandishing a box of hydroxy chloroquine fills. So, like, Okay, I am just very I'm like because I know I know someone left wing people who are like very anti authoritarian and are skeptical of like vaccines and the science behind coronavirus stuff like that. But it's so interesting to me that like there's these parallels were like in addition to being you know, like, I just don't understand why this seems like a cross cultural occurrence that rightlying thankers

tend to believe coronavirus misinformation, Like why is that? I don't get it currently, I think it's part of their like contrarian streak, where you know, anything that the left of the country is for it. Then they're automatically opposed to it, you know what I mean, That's what it is. Like the left cups out like, oh, we believe in science, and theff's like, yo, we don't have I honestly think that's really what it is. I mean, and it's it's

played out that way to win. The vaccine was first being developed in Democrats or whoever were like rightfully so in my opinion, were like, hey, I trust science, I trust the doctors. I don't trust Trump. So I don't know about the vaccine. It was completely switched, you know what I mean, Like people were like, man, I don't know if I want to take some VAGA vaccine and

and MAGA were in on vaccines. I mean thisaccine talking about you know, like so proud that this is recently is like last you know what I mean, like last March that this is going on, Like this isn't this

wasn't like ancient history anything. So I really think that a lot of it is rooted in that contrarian stry, just as far as far as like right leading people are concerned, where it's like hey man, I don't trust Joe Biden and I don't trust these crazy liberals and you know, they're all for the vaccine and PC woke, Like I think it's all wrapped up into that ship. I I pondered whether as a couple of other things as well, And it's probably a mixture of all of this,

you know together. Um. On the one hand, there's just like, yeah, this libertarian streak of just like I don't really care. I can do whatever I want. Um, So like you know, like I don't care about the science, I don't care about any of this stuff because I just want to be free, Like you know, the government shouldn't you know,

you know that don't tread on me bullshit. Like a little bit of that was mixed with this like, oh, the economy is more important than anything like oh, like you know, business and you know, the stock market, like we gotta keep the numbers going up on the ticker, even though no one knows what that is, at least from a governmental perspective. I feel like that's driven a lot of Trump's people, you know, like trying to protect his corporate you know, homies by like making sure the

economy marches forward. I imagine, and you know, and and and um. Boltono has made similar comments I think even at the u N summit last week talking about how, oh, COVID restrictions cripple economy is like this focus on oh, the economy is more important than human life as well. So all that together, I guess it just for me, you know that that's what it's like. That's what like

right wing politicians motivations are. But it's like it's more interesting like the people that are like on the ground, you know, I mean, like the regular people in terms of like what they're motivation is. Yeah, I mean, as a commissioner, like as even compost COVID restrictions here to help, you know, you know, in the interests of public health.

We've got an emails from like business owners that are like, oh, you're killing me, like I don't know what I'm supposed to do, dada da da, or just concerned people just like you know, just constituents who have no stake, who are totally fine middle class like you know, pension, uh, you know, paid off the mortgage already, who are like, oh, like you know, oh, the unemployment is encouraging people not to go to work, and then know, the crippling the

economy because even even the average there's like average citizens who don't have any person an ottle interest in like the stock market or like, you know, the economy at large, but like have his ideology of like, oh, the economy is important, the economy matters. They absorbedist rhetoric and they spew it back out even though it's like, yo, I don't want you, like Homie who's writing to me this email about like, oh the mass mandate, I don't want you to die either. I don't think you want to

die either. I don't think you want to die for the economy. Honestly, there's something cultural in it, I feel, because I mean, like like a fucking World War two and ship they rationed meat, you know what I'm saying.

They were like like motherfucker, they ration steel, like you couldn't drive as long as you wanted to or as far as you want to because they were ration and gas and ship Like, I just don't see people making that personal sacrifice after this COVID ship because it just seems like everybody is like not everybody, but I just mean there's a there's a huge component of the vaccine denial that is rooted in well, I'm straight, I'm gonna be fine, all right. Yeah, that's like a new precedent

for not as individualism but anti collectivism. Yeah, people who are specifically opposed to like working together to like for the benefit of public health and public and now something seen somebody who has that mindset and that agenda, right, you very easily can rope left leaning people into that,

you know what I'm saying. I think because I mean if you don't even if it's not even um presented that way, and you're just more so presenting these ideas that you know, like you said, are kind of adjacent to the to the grand scheme of collective organizing and community and stuff like that. If you start chipping away at that sort of thing, then you have people who otherwise would be cool fucking retweeting Tucker Carlson and ship. You know, it's like, oh, I agree with them in

the back look at Juken Greenwald. That's the topic for another day anyway, Thank even what are you doing? Oh, we gotta do a whole episode? All we do? We do? We do? We do. Like somebody somebody checked her on like yo, you know, he's a white nationalist, and she just like went off on the defense of it. I'm like, and people were like, oh, go off, Like what do you know do not? Oh man, let's let's get back. Yeah.

So public opinion of Bolsonara, which hap been favorable during his first year in office, turned negative throughout most between twenty you know, with his cutat of handling of the coroneris pandemic. Everything briefly became positive again after we authorized emergency payments again to our studentist checks here, before turning negative once more. So you know, yeah, the Brazilian economy and the Tank five like was a five thousand dead

and almost the best people dead in Brazil. And they have a population of two hundred and eleven millions, so they've got like, damn near a hundred million less people than us but have the same amount of people. Oh damn that has actually yeah, yeah, a lot of the country's political and economically have just turned against him. I mean, and like even for every average, everyday people, the public living standards getting squeeze because food and fuel costs are

taken upwards amid high unemployment. So this uh, you know recipe, all these ingredients come together to give you shitty poll numbers for our avoid Boltonaro. Um, it's looking like voters are likely to pick left wing former president Little Da Silva over Boltonaro in the coming election if posters are correct. But there's definitely signs that Balstonaro is not gonna go

without a fight. So earlier this month, Bosonaro called his supporters to the streets in preparation for what he called a necessary counter coup against Congress and the Brazilian Supreme Court. He directed a huge militia. He directed a huge military parade through the capital of Brazilia, in part to flex his his close ties with the military leaders, many of whom he appointed the cabinet post following his election. Balstonaro also enjoys a high level of support among the nation's

police force. Sounds like Trump as well, leading some to wonder if, in any event, if in the event of an attentive coup, the military and cops might turn against the public to keep the president in power. I mean, I don't even know if that's the question. I think that what was going to happen. I think that I think we're lucky that ship didn't happen here, to be honest with you, So yeah, yeah, and we'll get to

that a little bit. The second Um some some analysis of January six to sort of put it in in contrast to what happened earlier this month in Brazil, but Bostonaro's out here he was making direct threats to this Freme Court Chief Justice Luis foos Um even said that the only options for himself bothora were to be arrested,

killed or to win in the elections. And given that winning seems unlikely at parting of recent polls and the fact he went on to say that he would never be arrested, is its inuating that he will only leave office if killed. He's undermined the public's faith and security of the upcoming elections, saying no person is going to tell us this voting process is safe and reliable because

it isn't. So. I mean, all of this probably soundscari ship, but the good news is that these pro bolson Are protests across Brazil turned out to be a lot smaller than supporters anticipated. According the local police, only about a hundred twenty five thousand people took part in its Outpollo demonstrations. Like that's still a lot, but they expected about two million. There are other smaller demonstrations across the country, but no

violence broke out. So it's kind of what happened with the part two of the January six thing that they tried to do last week. And so in the early lead up to the lead up to early September demonstrations, international media was just discussing the event as a potential repeat of January six. UM. But according to alex O Trulli, who actually interestedly coming on the show next week to discuss this a little more detail, UM, looking at the two events side by side, UM, he said that event

January six was never a real threat to democracy. Um. The United States in Baltionary could be. The FBI found no evidence of essentially planned plot on January six, UM, and there are no plans to charge those involved with seditious conspiracy. Trump has didn't kill anyone. The only a violent death as a policeman shooting a pro Trump you know, protester. It wasn't a coupe nor even really a respectable coup attempt, even as even as scary as it was to ask

in the moment on that day. Um. Instead, you know, the whole administration came together for the most part to uphold the election results, and there wasn't a risk of a military coup because Trump didn't have the same backing of the middle terry in in the United States as Boson and choice in for Zil. In Brazil, situation is far more precarious since Boson arts office, six thousand military personnel have come to occupy positions in the federal government,

with top Brass strongly representing the presidential cabinet. The risk of Altane Police Forces ninety to launch a coup with or in place of Balsonaro, it's worth seriously pondering, especially since a military cool in Brazil, it's a president. Then members of the Brazilian armed forces, supported by the United States government, once again talking with people in Latin America,

overthrew President Joe klar Um. The coupe brought uh to Brazil, a military dictatorship politically aligned with the interests of guess who's the United States government, and which lasted for twenty

one years until nineteen five. So this is something so like the government has overthrowned democratically elected presidents and till previously, in addition to you know, all over Latin America, and so there's it's a little more so I think I see such a little more serious in here, because like, yeah, this ship, like it's easy to imagine because this ship has happened before the This is the thing that I disagree with him on and you know, hopefully we can

talk about this when he comes in the show. Is the notion that, okay, that specific event in its in and of itself was a threat to democracy and that that was the coup attempt to you know what I mean, Like like, oh man, we were on the verge of that day. Anyone who's saying that that's like hyperbole, it's exaggeration, It's it's television. It's like you know, like cable news, enter table television at this point, like it's it's too

gin up the ship. But in a way for like from somebody like me, you know, I mean, it kind of it feels like a straw man because it's not that's not the issue. It's what it's indicative of, Like it might not be the coup attempt that put us on the verge, but it was damn sure a test run, you know what I'm saying. And it's the next time that it happens. I think that time possibly could be the one that's like, oh, Man, we're on the verge

with this one. I mean, consider this, right, do you remember when everybody was talking about let's storm area You remember when that was going on, and like it never really like materialized. Who knows why it never really materialized, but I would guess that one of the things in the back of everybody's head is, Man, when you're at the point that there's a mass group of people that are storming Area fifty one, they're just gonna start shooting.

I not knowing everything about you know, like I don't know the ins and outs of all this stuff and how it works. But just me growing up, you know, American, but growing up overseas, and just like the pop cultural idea of how what I have of how the government works. A bunch of people start storming the Capitol buildings, whether it's Black Lives matter, whether it's right wingers or whatever. If a bunch of people start storming the center of American power, I would imagine that the cops would just

start letting bullets black. Well, that's the thing. So that's the thing about the situation that I think it's interesting and kind of scary, is that sure? Like, Okay, the demonstrations polter I was like arobably come out of the streets. Yeah,

and they had lost people that anticipated. But if a hundred people twenty five thousand people in South a Polo all had guns store and you know, started storming capitol buildings and the police, even if the police din't joined their side, if the police stood by and did nothing, which is a little bit of what we saw in January six, police were like you know taking selfies. Um, if they just like you know, kind of turn a blind eye so well, that guys could do some serious damage.

It might not be as many people as you thought, but it's enough to fund some shut up countries can get de stabilized with like five thousand organisms people. Yeah,

like let a load a hundred and something. If all six thousand people who are in the military who have been appointed the government by Boltonaro like you know, just did little things like gave somebody their key card to give me the elevator to go up to where the Supreme Court Justice, you know, his office is, and like little things like that, that could be enough rock the

whole ship. The thing that talking about Bostonaro makes me think of it's like it just makes me think of the whole concept of you know, it could happen here type of type of ship where it's just like if this starts happening stuff like the starts happening tomorrow. It's just like, what are people really going to do? What is the real actual reaction going to be? Like if in your town, some Yahoo's just take over the state building and the cops don't touch him straight up and

their life we're in charge. I mean, most people are going to tweet about it, you know what I mean. You're gonna make your post like it's sun up and then everybody's gonna go to work. This is what That's what I'm afraid of, you know what I mean. Like, I'm busy right now. So yeah, January s X two thousand twenty one, like that was the day I was to be sworn in as Commissioner again. And so I'm

sitting scenes of the Cavil getting stormed on CNN. I'm like, yo, is it safe to be like around government buildings right now? And my colleagues were like, oh, come on, it's fine, you know, because they've never had like lynching threats or like someone starting to bring their house out or anything. And so they're like, you know, the police will be there,

you know, they'll be stationed on the rooftops. I'm like, I don't like the idea of them being stationed on the rooftops with like, you know, sniper's scope like pointed at the city Hall building. Neither neither may feel any better. You know, you just reminded me of It's something that I talked about literally on the first episode that you

weren't around. Yeah, but you know who was going in and out of Brazil having meetings with Balsinara, right, Bannon, Oh my gosh, and the CIA recently, like recently as a matter of fact, like Steve, it's suspected the Steve Bannon and them are like behind trying to organize this whole everybody get out in the streets for Bosonaro thing. They were literally trying to recreate the January sixth thing down there. So there're a lot of trouble you. We're a lot of trouble you. I mean, I guess it's

the consensus is Bossonaro is probably worse than Trump. But not only is it not by a lot, but it's purely a matter of circumstance. Yeah, you know, what I'm saying. Yeah, some in some ways worse. Actually, I think, honestly think in every way worse. This dude seems like really like a lot worse to call him the really Trump is the Balsonaro of of the North of North America. Another key differences. I feel like Balsonaro believes in something. And we're gonna you're gonna kind of get a sense of

this when we get the music discussion. Yeah, Trump is like a money in power dude. Like it's like like literally like Trump could be a rapper. Like that's just considered. What do you in power? That's it. So let's turn to talk a little bit about the rappers in the Brazilian rappers that fun with Bosnarrow and we got a couple of the don't but we'll be we'll be back with that after the joke. Alright, we are crazy. I'm sorry.

I didn't want to cut you off. I'm so stoked for this discussion today because this is just wild to me, some of some of these some of these rappers. Man, Now, we are a politics hip hop show, so you know, we always got to bring it back to the hip hop angle of things, and to do that we're gonna be diving into some of the hip hop that's going on in Brazil currently amidst all of this Balsnaro right

wing coup fears and blah blah blah blah. Now, where this is going to kind of take a turn is there is a whole lot of self described right wing rappers in Brazil. It's not dominating the scene, it's not in the majority thing. It's not like what Brazilian hip hop is like, but it's enough of a niche market

that Balsonaro has found use in it as propaganda. Yeah, they got recordings that sample features that feature samples from the president's speeches, lyrics that exalt the dictatorship and torturers like Carlos at Ustra and shout outs to people that the dude that sort of like was bolsonar Guru l Carvoglio. So like they like so they like really incorporate, like they get into very specific details about why they support and yeah, yeah, and like historical figures of the right

wing and Birnt Hill as well. So let's check out this first cat. How do you say this, louise Um is The song is called my Son Will be a Boston, Boston Arrista in a Boston Balsa arista. I'm assuming it is kind of like a name for a Balsonaro supporter, Like, yeah, all right, let's check this out. Stuff, Like the hook goes. Um, when my son will is born, he will follow his father's footsteps. Um, his first birds will be Petismo, which is like PET is like the Workers Party, which is

like the left wing in Brazil. So pet will be no more. And then in the opening lines of the first verse, that's just crazy to me, Uh, my son will be right wing, a many anti communist. He's gonna learn when he's young to be a capitalist. Will dress up by Ustra, who was a torturer under the military dictatorship, and be a fan of boll Scenaro. When he's at school. To his friends, he'll be an oppressive motherfucker. Yeah, I mean it straight up. It's just like starting to people

oppressed people. He'll dress up like a torturer. Um. I think comparing like the PT, which to my understanding is like a liberal party in Brazil, but like not the communist by any means. And so you also see this trend of like anything that's even remote the left wing is communism, you know that rhetoric being spewed also by the right in Brazil. All in America, you can just lump in anything anything that like fringey guys don't like. You can just lump everything into that for them to

just label it his left wing. Oh you don't like gays, you don't like feminism, or you don't like black people, you don't like you don't like the environment, or not even you don't like the environment. You're too lazy to do anything to help out the environment. All right, let's just lump that all that's all left wing, and we hate that. We're against it, every aspect of it. So he goes on to say, I think it's really interesting. So he goes on to say he's gonna tell us

friends that he's a far he's the far right. He's gonna he's gonna tell them that in in reality, uh, Nazism, the left wing or the Nazis effectively, and he's going to treat everyone equal, independent of race. So it's like, oh, I'm extremely right wing. I treat everyone the same no matter what color you are. The Nazis and the left sing people like it just seems so like didn't past the inherent contradictions. Didn't he just say his son's going

to be an oppressive motherfucker's exactly. It's like bro same song, like literally thirty seconds ago, I heard you say you don't want to be like putting your boots on people's neck like your ustra or wherever this guy's name is. All right, we got the other guy. Um he is a rapper, Papa Mike from Bellow horizonte Yeah. Uh so he's another die hard Baldinestra bosarist kind of Balson balson Arista Bosonarista, with songs such as a letter to Balstonaro,

let's check that out of that's just getting okay. Songs like that. They derived the president's opponents as coke heads and stoner's and warrens of communists and doctrination in the school system in media. So in the the video, it's got like uh Hammerson sickles flying around like oh, you

better watch out. Like in the background they call out there's like a picture of like Karl Marks for a second and like warning that, oh it's coming for your kids and ship like that, um, which all seems kind of silly, but then there's another there's another right wing wrapper.

He's evangelical. Sim's Elvis, and he sort of like breaks it down in a way that like a similar to arguments i've heard um by like Trump people, like, uh, well not really, but I guess like not Trump people per se, but like conservatives that I know that like cast out on left wing people in the United States.

So pretty much he he hasn't identified as a Bolshonarista, but like he is very conservative, and he said that, um, the left is a villa Madelena, which is sort of like you know, the Champagne Socialists of Brooklyn don't get this. They've never seen a body splayed out on the ground. If they've never seen a coffin, it's because they're dog If they've ever seen a confidence, because their dog died

or the the granddad died of old days. So pretty much saying that, like, you know, he personally is right wing because he grew up so tough that the only left wing people that like he sees in the media or whatever are like, you know, more well to do folks that haven't actually under you know, undergone oppression, and so you see, I feel like you here in the United States as well a lot of people that are strong supporters of capitalism, strong supporters of like a more conservative

economic agenda, because they picture the left as just like very privileged, well to do folks that have no idea what reality is. Like well, I mean, you know, like I understand, I understand. I understand it in the sense of the information is in my ear and I understand the logic that they're using and drive those conclusions. But it's like, at the end of the day, it's like, man, I grew up. I grew up rough, so I hate gay people. It's not anything that I'm trying to entertain,

you know what I'm saying. So it's like that it was like it was about it a little losing or that who is that guy? The oh my god, yeah yeah, time flies. I totally forgotten without who thing like, oh I'm sorry, I just I grew up rough. I didn't understand and I wasn't supposed to like fucking hate gays. Like here's the thing that I'm interested in asking you about, because talking about this it's like, maybe you know, tell me if I'm like just being too dismissive. But I

feel like this Brazilian right wing stuff. It definitely has like a personal figure attached to it, because in a lot of cases they're actually talking about Bosonaro and stuff like that. But if you strip it away and it's just them rapping about having these like right wing, ultra capitalistic you know what I mean, ideology, is it really that that far removed from what's going on here? Going on here in a lot of ways. I mean, I

guess it's just more explicitly like ideologically aligned. That's why.

That's what I mean. It's like like like yeah, and that in that popa mic song, he's like yo, like you know, Bostonaro's out in the streets with the rifle or whatever, like praising that he's you know, flexible right to bear arms and he he and he brings it back to if I'm not mistaken, or maybe it's all of this is like brings it back to you, like, oh, the right to bear arms specifically, like tying it back to like a thing that's enshrined in long you know,

through the Constitution, etcetera. But like in regular regular rap music in Nited States, probably in Brazil as well, people talk about the flex about having guns all the time without making explicitly political, even though ultimately it is. I mean that's what the show is about, revealing how all these things are like, you know, secretly ideological and so yeah,

I mean I see what you're saying about. I mean getting into when we were talking about the COVID vaccine and like that cultural shift of like things being self centered. It's about me and that lack of community, you know what I'm saying, community concern and stuff like that. I mean, that's the sort of thing where it's like I when I listened to hip hop, it's like I try to strip it of the context and just focus on what

the music and the words themselves are accomplishing. And it's like, yeah, in a lot of cases, I mean, you know, obviously there's exceptions to every rule and ship like that, but you know there's a lot of cases where you're just hearing stuff drone and drone and drone, and it's like for a cat like me, it's like, man, is this brought to you by the Koch Brothers? Like what then am I listening to? You know what I mean, Like, really what am I listen about? It's like a prager,

you like rant with a beat to it. You know about the virtues of capitalism. It's like, you know, you're right, though, what else we've got? What else they've gotten? Okay, So now we're gonna switch over to some of the cats who are antipe, anti ball Scenaro. So let's check out the first homie Black Alien with his track how I Surround. Sorry. So the title of the song is how my how My saw Okay, yeah, which means never will never well be never well. Let's check out. Let's check this out

real quick. Yeah. So the hook for that one is, um, what he's saying is what I really think is that presidents are temporary. Baby, good music is forever, and these losers never will be. And this is him talking about the right wing and Balsonara and them uh. In an interview, he said, I can't waste the valuable instrument that is wrapped and not talk to the people, to young people, mainly here in Brazil, an obnoxiously stupid country that doesn't

educate people. Team half the people voted for this deadbeat out of ignorance. Damn, just call you gotta you gotta tell it. As Rap steps up the ladder into the mainstream of Brazilian music, fight the power songs have been sharing more space on the radio and there streaming airwaves, on the streaming airwaves instead of music about love and sex. So that's good. That's good. At least everyone's like or at least, for the most part, a lot of them

are not. Just you know, because whether you're gonna be right wing in your art or left wing in your art or down the middle or whatever. I can't stand the agnostic approach to ship, Like I'm just like, oh, I'm just not into politics. Yeah, I'm ignoring the world. I don't, you know, none of that should happen. Like I was, I was watching some reading something. We're like the dudes from Metallica. We're talking about Yeah, man, we're

not political. We're just trying to have fun. I'm like, yo, what what Yeah, dollar dollar bills, man, people's dolla bills. I love that ship, which is inherently ideological if you like, oh, we're trying to have fun, We're trying to make stack paper like whatever. Like uh huh, you know, I think that's informed by ideology. Desert sand Brown. Sure, but last I'm sorry, Okay. The last one is by set to a Prohibito song called prima vera fascista or fascist spring.

Do you watch you feel? Um? And the song is in the um and the tradition of Brazil's rap Nacio now um, which is traditionally stood out as the cultural voice of the fazilas and the peripheries throughout Brazila, the favelas and brazila sort of like the hood, like the you know, the inner inner city slumps and stuff like that.

Um boson Naro's unprecedented statements again black Brazilians was hatred of the poor, the lgbt UH community and lactics of all stripes have sort of boards the unity among these people, um um, which is where like did in songs like pretty very if actually stay here in which Um said to a probibito, is that who's does the song? Hold on a second, let me make sure it says it's produced by that person. I wonder if that was the

rapper on it. It's it's it's a channel. It's like thinks like a YouTube channel or like a SoundCloud channel. So so the wrapper here UM talks about idolizing a fascist, supporting torture and the people manipulated. I want to put you in power I'm the civil war. I'm not afraid of your dictatorship. And if someone has to die, let it be you. Um some fucking five ship. Um. Your homophobia doesn't make you more of a man. Tell him son you had. Our sexuality is fragile. Your ignorance contaminates.

The sickness is in massacres, fascism, mrs spreading virus. Information is secure and wraps the vaccine. God damn, wow, there's so many levels to a called him out for his Cohen is information that doesn't allergy about fascism, spread of the virus. Information is the cure. Rapp is the next scene. So that's so ill. Oh my god. I mean, considering that this song is from he didn't even know. He didn't even know, he didn't even know that was prophetic

to the futube. Bro, that's what we call off the dome. Ladies, I'm a little scared of this cat like how like how you know? So that is what we got for the music discussion and for the episode today, as it were, So it's so good to have you back. Yet it's good to be back. We got lots of great things coming up, hopefully just as you're excited to dive into some of these topics. Sided to some of these topics.

Apparently there are some anti Bolsonora protests coming up this weekend, and so Alan So truly, who is a writer, researcher and translator based in Um, think sal Paulo Um is interesting coming on next week to just talk about the you know, sort of like a little more on this topic, a little more in depth from his perspective on the ground in Brazil. So touch on that and lots of other good stuff in the weeks to come. So thanks

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