Good evening, this is AF3Z, Alpha, Fox-Chart 3Z. Anyway, AF3 is dead here and you have tuned in to the 985 workbench. And we meet here every Monday evening. I've got to hold on a second here. Got my computer on Echo Link and it seems to be talking back to me and the delay is crazy. So anyway, set up audio. Oh, that's crazy. I had said. Okay, all right, now I don't hear myself. That's wonderful. Sorry about this. This is a workbench,
We meet here every Monday evening at 8 p.m. and it's a time for talking about asking questions about radio operations, setting up the station, technical questions, antennas. I am located out near Mount Joy, Pennsylvania, a few miles away. And of course we meet here on the 146.985 MHz repeater, W3GMS Parkburg repeater. The PL tone, if you want to get into it, is 100 Hz. And if you use tone squelch on receive, the repeater puts out a transmit. Our transmitter
is a squelched stone of 94.8 hertz. you haven't checked in before, encourage you to try it tonight. Newcomers are very welcome. Also, take a look at the website for the repeater, www.w3gmsrepeater.com. Lots of information there, articles, pictures, repeater history, etiquette for operating on the repeater, all that kind of good stuff. Please be aware that at times we have intermod interference here on this repeater at this point. So if that
comes up in somebody, we will mention that if it comes on tonight. And it might wipe me out, we'll see. But it can cause some real significant interference, especially for those of us farther away or on lower power. So if the intermountain interference comes in, it's good to go to high power if you haven't already. Or you can also check in digitally through EchoLink or All-Star, because that is not bothered by the interference. In any case, we do want to hear
you so we hope you can work around that. One thing on EchoLink and All-Star... check the website. You have to get registered, so to speak, or on the list to use EchoLink and All-Store and Repeater. The information is on the website. You can check that to get that taken care of. Also, when the intermod is present, before you begin a transmission, it's good to do what I'm going to do now. Make sure you're getting in okay. I'm kind of thinking I am, but let
me see. Ron, are you here? Am I making it in okay at the moment? Present WA3VE like you're here in the room, Jim. Perfect copy. Thank you, Ron. And that's a good thing to do. Like I say, when the intermod is present, sometimes it wipes some of us out, sometimes others. But it's good to just check like that. And I will be glad to tell you if you're getting in OK. The neck control station will always be glad to do that. And so you just check
in quickly with that question, am I getting in OK? And once that's confirmed, then you can go ahead and start making your longer comments. Here on the workbench, as I said, we focus on kind of general questions of amateur radio theory operation. And also, though, we start off the workbench going around the circle, so to speak, around the table, just to give a brief summary of what's been up to in amateur radio this past week. And the question session
that comes after that is really our main focus. But we'd like to hear a little bit briefly about what you've been up When you are checking in, which will start in just a couple minutes here, please indicate if you do have a question you would like to put to the work. And you don't have to go into the question at this point, but just simply say, yes, you have a question, or no, you don't. If you don't have a question, still check in. You don't
have to have a question to check in. And the success of this is that there's a lot of us in here, and we can all come in on our experiences. You don't have to feel like you've got to be a wise old ham radio operator. Don't think that what you have to say isn't important. All of us have access If and if you have something you want share, please jump in and do so. We can all contribute to the conversation.
We are going through the check-ins. Please write down the call sign of the station that checks in right after you. You can keep a list of everybody if you want. Especially that station after you because when you have finished your comments, then you will turn the mic over to that station. And once we've all made our comments and comes back to me, then we'll start the question and
answer portion of the workbench. And during that time, we operate as a directed net. So I will call on the... station who said they have a question, they'll share what their question is and then I'll open up to the group for responses to that question. And when you're done, any comments during that session, you please turn it back to me as the NIC control
helps us to keep things running smoothly here. Sometimes it's good if you have just sort of a clarification question or you wouldn't need to go back and forth with somebody quickly. Please feel free to do that without turning it back to me. So once that interchange is finished up, then please turn it back to me and I will pass it along to whoever will be next. So a couple quick things here, don't be too quick to talk. Pause a couple seconds before
you hit the press to talk switch. It's good repeater etiquette because it allows people a chance to get in and can especially be helpful to those on all-star and echo link here during a net like tonight. They need a little extra time, there are delays, they don't hear things as quickly as people on RF do and all that. When it's your turn, don't just jump right in, let a second or two or whatever before you
press the talk switch. And once you do, wait another minute, or wait a minute, Wait a second before you start to talk so the repeater has time to process your PL tone if you're on RF. And we don't miss the beginning of what you have to say. And also there's a three minute timer on the repeater as required by the FCC. If you talk for more than three minutes, the repeater, without letting up on your press to talk switch, the repeater shuts down completely.
Nobody can get in. It blocks everybody out. And also you're not getting in anymore. We all just sit here listening to silence until you let up on your press to talk switch. So every two to three minutes, like to do this, like I've done a number of times, just let up on the button. and then click again and keep going. You don't have to actually let the repeater drop before you key again.
want to say thank you to everybody who operates as a host here on the workbench. And if any of you who haven't done it would like to give it a try, please feel free to contact myself or one of the other hosts here on the workbench and we will get the information, help you make that decision if you're not sure and then get you started. And finally, just a reminder, we have another net that we call the roundtable. It's not quite a formal net as much as this
one is. But on Thursday nights also at 8 p.m. and that's the 985 roundtable. So encourage you to come back on Thursday night and join that. That's more of a general reg two kind of roundtable session. We'll start to take check-ins now. Remember, if you have a question, or even if you don't, let me know by saying you have a question or you don't have any questions. And we'll start with the digital stations, giving them enough time in the middle so they can
get checked in. So, any digital stations on EchoLink or All-Star wishing to check into the 985 workbench tonight, please call now. My call is Alpha Fox Chot 3.0. The name here is Jim. Please call now. Whiskey 8, Charlie Romeo Whiskey, CR. No question. Okay, very good. Thank you, CR, for checking in. There was somebody before CR that said you're a short timer tonight. Never heard any of your call. All I heard was, uh, that's short.
Again, I don't know if you talked too soon or what, but give it another try and leave a pause before you start to talk. That other station, please call again. This is W1RC, good evening all. All right, very good. Mr. Mike, good to hear you. W1RC. You fool me these days because you sound so much more local. I didn't recognize who it was there. Thanks for checking in
there. So I have W1RC and then W8CRW. Anybody else on EchoLink or All-Star who would like to check in to the workbench tonight, please call now. Alright, not hearing anybody. So we will move on anybody else other than Hickalink All-Star stations and now also any RF stations. Anybody wishing to check into the workbench, please call now. This is Jim AF. Alpha 3 Victor Echo Echo WA3 VEE. No question. you Let me jump in here and if I get it.
was either a perfect double or something. I was really trying to a tone of voice or something in there, but it was very noisy and sort of garbled. So hopefully that was a double or something. But whoever was just trying to call in, please give it another try. PC3RFG, Jim in Malvern, no questions. 3MFB. Mike with the question. K3FHA John Nope C3TYX, Kilo Charlie 3, Tango Yankee X-ray. Kilo Charlie 3, Oscar Oscar Kilo. Charlie 8.
Here's who I have. Let me just go through the whole list here. W1RC, W8CRW, WA3VE, KC3RFG, W3MFB with a question, K3FHA. And this was the station that was in and out. I think you said you were parked on the air. November 3, Quebec, November Bravo or something like that. It was pretty noisy. and think you said you're in and out, if you want to come back, I don't if we'll be able to hear you little better, but I'd like to be sure I know who you are.
So let me just pause a second. Both the men's, yeah, the station that mentioned being Parks on the Air, would you come back again, please? This is AF3. Okay, I'm sorry, my ears aren't pulling you out of the noise there. Let me just check, was anyone else able to copy that station? Quebec, November Charlie as the suffix but I still can't get the prefix. It's down in the mud and I cannot hear him on the input. Go ahead. November 3.
Thank you both there. Bill and Ron, November 3, Quebec November Charlie. I only missed one letter there. Thanks for checking in. Yeah, you are quite noisy. I'm glad you made it and I did hear the first time you said you were in and out. So thanks for that. tell you what, just give us one quick try here, see if you can tell us where you're located, where you're located. This is AF3Z. Thanks for trying, my ears didn't get it, but I'll pause for a second. Anybody else copy there?
Thank you, maybe if conditions get better here. One point it started to sort of clear up but didn't hear anything even in that spot. So yeah, very, very noisy. But thanks for checking in and hope you have a good time there wherever you are. if you want to try again later, maybe we'll hear you better. So after John, K3FAJ was that N3QNC who was in and out. Then we have Vic, KC3TYX. Bill KC3 OK and Luke KC3 SCY. And Luke, are you alright to stay in
that position as far as giving your comments today? So you'd be, maybe not last, but after Bill. I'm good till about 945 so TC3SC1 back to AO3Z. Very good, Luke, it must be getting to be summer. That's great. All right, thank you very much. So after all of that, any of other stations wishing to check into the 985 workbench, please call now. This is AF3Z. WA3KT. Charlie checked in, Jim. C-R-E. He was right in around Luke.
Alright, thank you, Joe. Charlie, go ahead and say something again. Make sure I'm hearing you this. And three, CRE, Charlie here. Yeah, didn't hear you in there at all, so sorry about that. Welcome aboard. Anyone else wishing to check into the work? WA3KFKT did not acknowledge you, dealing with Joe's thing there, so very good. Yeah, we have Luke KC3SCY and John KFT and then Charlie N3CRE. One last call, AAF3Z here, any other check-ins for the workbench? 23SQI AC3WWC.
Very good. We got Wayne in there, KC3SQI and John KC3WWC. Joe checked in again by CW that time. Just the ID, sorry about that. All right. Quickly W1RC, W8CRW, WA3VEE, KC3RFG, W3NFB, you had a question, I think so far that's our only question, K3FHA, then next is KC3TYX, KC3OOK, KC3SKY, WA3KFT, N3CRE, KC3SQI. and KC3WWC. So, again, go around and brief comments on what you've been up to in amateur radio this week. Go ahead there, Mr. Mike, W1RC, it's up to you.
Good evening to everybody on the workbench tonight from Marblehead, Massachusetts through All-Star. And that's actually what I did this week is I got my All-Star node operational. First level only and there's a lot more to go and a lot more to learn. I wanted to thank some of the folks here for offering to help me. do it and CR and Daniel, who's up here, offered to do it for me and I'm very grateful. I'm the kind of guy who to try to do it myself first
and that way you learn and I was able to get it to work. only the very first level and there's still a bunch more questions that I need to figure out or get some help with but we'll get it working the full capacity. Also I figured out how to program this bell thing that I've had for a couple years that I bought at the MIT flea market. I'm going to reset this for a And that's about it. From here, I got to bail out. I got some work to do here tonight. I
can't stick in as much as I'd like to. I'll listen, but I don't have any questions, but I might have some answers. So if I do and if I hear them, if I can, I will. Otherwise, we'll see you guys on Thursday. It's good to be part of this group. It's a very, very fine amateur radio community that... you all have created here on 985. It's very impressive, trust me. So back to, well over to CR. W8, CRW and the workbench. This is W1RC himself.
Very good, Mr. Mike. Good hearing you, and you're doing good. good evening all and jim thank you for taking the chair tonight this cr and uh... this week in ham radio i've been uh... playing with my note i'm having trouble with it with uh... dtmf functionality and i've been working with rich The other thing that I've been working on is using my cell phone in an additional feature. Instead of Wi-Fi, I've figured out how to use it using Ethernet. And that has some advantages
to some people. With that, let's go to Ron. W-A-3-V-E-E-W-H-C-R-W. WACRW and the group WA3VE over here in Westchester. All very, very good. Well, of course, we've been doing the field day prep and our theme this year for the press release is going to be A-RRLs as radio connects. Well, I kind of skied off of that a little bit and it's more like radio, amateur radio works when nothing else does. So that's kind of what, and basically
it's going to be. The public is welcome to see how that occurs. Basically, I have better wording for that. it's been a long day, so I'm tired. basically, I'll be releasing that as well. Also, you'll be seeing an invitation for all those who are not part of the Corps field day group. So you're still all obviously welcome to come up. and you'll be seeing an invitation. I still need to get that over to Joe. And besides doing the field day stuff,
not much else going on over here in terms of ham radio. Things have been very busy in other areas. So with that, let me turn it over to Jim over there in Malvern and see what he has to say. KC3RFG to take at WA3VEE. W-A-3-V-E-E. This is KC-3-R-F-G, Jim here in Malvern. Thanks a lot, Ron, for passing to me. Thank you, the other Jim, AF-3Z, for hosting this evening as well. Not too much to report
on the radio front, Haven't been super active at all on the shack. However, recently I did shift the position of all the radios in the shack, and after doing so, I picked up an
RF noise problem. coming in on the boom mic cable and I did I've been looking at that for a couple of days and I came to figure out finally this afternoon that I originally had an extension cable on the boom mic because it didn't reach in the old configuration there was a lot of coiled up microphone cord and that was picking up interference only on 40 meters. Anyhow when I got rid of the extra extension I found out I no longer needed and
then double check the grounding on the boom mic actual metal stand, it went away. So yay, I got it all back in service on all the bands now. I really do like the boom mic on HF and the foot switch, it's so handy. So that's about it from here. With that, I'm gonna pass it over to W3MFB Mike. And sorry Mike, I think I doubled with you perfectly when we went to check in, I apologize for that. From KC3RFG, take it Mike. We're up with all KCE3, RFG,
W3, MFP. Howdy, howdy all. Good to hear everybody. Haven't really played too much AM radio a little bit here and there. CR, thank you, thank you playing with that radio in the car. That's about it. Making some 10 meter contacts and things like that. Band hasn't really been spectacular, not today anyway. Was open over the weekend, thankfully, but... I really didn't have time to get on to too much. Do have a question tonight and I am going to be interested on hearing
what everybody has to say. So with that, I will pass it to women K3 FHA W3MFD. K3MFP, K3FHA, thanks Mike and thanks to Jim for hosting tonight. Haven't done a whole lot on the radio, a few nets and so forth. I did do some work in the shack. I have two HF rigs now and so I had a bunch of antenna switches lying on the desk and I made a little stand so I could make them vertical and take up a lot less space and have them not slide around.
now I have my... antenna switching between the two HF rigs, nicely set up and that's a big improvement. Don't have a whole lot of time unfortunately with everything else that's going on. But that's about it, I checking out some test equipment that I got also. But that's only peripherally AMRADIO related. So anyway, on to VIC, KC3TYX, K3FHA.
Thank you, John. K3SHA, KC3TYX. A little radio activity this week. Some of you may remember, it's been quite a long time ago, but my first power supply, a Samlux, always had a fan in it. Basically, the fan would run all the time, even when you didn't have a load on it. And
after much back and forth with the manufacturer, months of back and forth. They agreed, I sent them a video, they agreed it was the fan and I was worried I was going to have to send it to them but they were nice enough to send me new fan which sat on my workbench for about six months. So I finally got around, I replaced the fan, no fan noise when I turned on the
power supply. I haven't really tested it under load, I just left it on for several hours and it never kicked in so hopefully it got rid of that and now I have a spare power supply. What else? Talking to a guy, KC3, RKW, he's on his net sometimes, the Duke of Earl, and
he had told me he hit a patch of good six meter. I had recently put a new six meter double bazooka, think Ron had suggested that up in my attic, and I tried it a little bit and made a couple local contacts on FTA, but didn't really hear too But a couple days ago there was a pretty good patch going on and I was able to have digital contacts with Connecticut, Nebraska, several, Minnesota, Florida, Iowa. And then about 20 minutes later I got Delaware,
Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania and that was it. So that opening must have closed up. And just a regular net. So it's been a pretty good week. So on that I'm going to pass it over to Bill. KC3OOK from KC3TYX. KC3TYX, KC3OOK, thanks Vic and Jim. Thanks for taking the chair tonight. is tied up this week. Yeah, and Vic, I was looking at the DX tracker, or DX view in the morning, and I did notice one morning, and I think we had a temperature inversion, that yeah, the bands
were lit up all the way up and down the East Coast. So it's great when you're able to
be home and hit it. For me this week, well, let's see. Chuck's not here to get... tower report so we actually worked three work sections three and a half days up at Joe's this past week and got a lot accomplished we just really just one it's not a major task but just one task left and that's to get the rotator and the thrust bearing and the mast mounted and ready to go and other than that it's just a few odds and ends just hold on some appurtenances
and a little loctitey's and nuts and I really think it's done. Which is great, looking forward to seeing that in the air. me, I've been working. The ham shack is pretty much done, ready to start the operating station and the lab bench. Today I spent 14 hours staring at a sketch pad and a pen and I know where they're going to go now and I know how it's going to be laid out. Now I have to sit down and put it on paper and work out all the details. So that's about
it for me and let's see, who do I turn it over to here? who's in my place. I turn it over to Luke, and it was good to talk to you today, Luke. KC3, SCY, KC3, okay. And thanks for turning it over to me. And Jim, like always, thanks for hosting. This week in Ham radio, I haven't been super busy. On Thursday, I'm going down to North Carolina with my aunt for a week, so that'll be good. And radio-wise, my uncle's brother got me um, or he gave
me an AM radio, um, seven transistor, dual audios, super head radio kit. right now and that's coming along pretty good. So that's an AM radio so hopefully that works out good. on the PMAMnet there was no Joe net control he was on and me, I was the first pre-net check-in and then one other station checked in and... weeks ago we had like dead so anyway my last day of school was Friday so that was good so now I yeah I listening to some CW. They're
not a ton of stations, but there's more than there is on the sideband in AM. I'll keep it moving here and turn it over to, I think, tail gunner, 383KFT. This is KC3SCY. W-A-3 K-C-Y W-A-3 Kentucky Fried Turkey. Okay Luke, very good. I'm juggling two things at once here, microphone and telephone. Anyway, we managed to get up a Comet G9 multi-band antenna this past week and I am using it right now. So I get good performance. We'll keep
it up in the air. go from there. And garden is growing well. And anybody that needs rhubarb, let me know. I have lots of it to cut. Over to you, Charlie. November 3, Charlie Romeo Echo from WA-3 King Fox Tango. Thank you. Charlie here. Haven't done much this week. Started looking at the All-Star Echo Link and don't really need it right now since I don't have any rig in the car. But other than that, I don't have much else to say. I'll turn it over to KC3FQI and 3CRE.
This is KC3SQI, am I making it in? And now you're making it an end. Go ahead. It's a lot better to check in when you're talking on the repeater frequency instead of on the input frequency to the repeater. tried to get in for a bunch of times, couldn't do it. So, then I looked over at the radio and thought that I was trying to talk on the input, so, oh well. taking the bus driving near Jim. As for him radio, not much with the radios.
I did finish up submitting in the base for my new tower, my new tilt-over tower. So by the end of this week, I should be... ready to start transferring antennas over to the new tower. And that'll be a little bit better to use inch and a half rigid conduit for the mast rather than... for Chainlakes fans, I think it might stand up a little better to the win. Not much happening, so I will turn it over to John, KC3WWC, this is KC3SQI. This is KC3WWC. Am I getting in?
John, maybe speak up a little bit, but you're in there solid. I am on RF this time, so that's new. I've been having some trouble. Doesn't seem like dinner mode to me. So my past week in radio I got the Bluetooth TNC on my Btech UV Pro working a little bit better, cleared the channel, the Bluetooth channel, and now it automatically reconnects like it's supposed to. I'm also testing a new to me small magnetic loop antenna
from Alpha Antenna. It's really quite small and quick to deploy, kind of takes the fun out of it. used it for a park activation right before this met. So that's fun to play with. I repaired and retuned the Yagi that I'm using right now. I added a hairpin match, which I got to see what it does. It lowered the SWR. It didn't change the tuning though, but there
are the resonance. that was a good learning experience. But when I'm listening to 985, I get like a full extra S unit out of So I had my All-Star node on a phone network behind my phone tethered and it would not connect. kept failing. But the parrot test on another node would work. And I had some strange interference in the car, which was really kind of interesting because it only happened when the car was turned
off. With that, oh I do have a question or two. With that I will hand back to Jim AF3's Edge. All right, very good, John. And yeah, there's a little hiss kind of noise on your signal, but able to copy everything there, so very good. And let me pause quickly. Is there anyone else out there who would like to check into the workbench tonight? This is AF3Z. Please. Jim, I remembered I do have a question if there's time at the end. KC-3, okay.
Okay Bill, and that was my next question. Is there anybody else who has a question that didn't say so before? I've got Mike MFB, Bill OOK, and then John WWC with questions. Anyone else? Very good. Just a reminder then, as we turn to the question... everybody to make any comments, observations, experiences you've had. Don't assume that your level of experience and knowledge isn't... and all learns from each other and contribute to the discussion. So please feel free to...
So, first one we'll go to then is Mike W3MFB. What is your question tonight, Mike? Hey Jim, thank you, thank you. W3MFD, you know, it's funny right before I'm about to talk I start thinking of something else and I'm like, huh, I'm have to ask that another time. But this is more of a general question and a buddy of mine, JB, he texted me last night, I didn't
see it until this morning, reminding me of the 146-580 simplex net you guys have. Bill, you're a host for the... area I imagine and to remind me that it was Saturday. My question is kind of general. Bill, I've heard you. CR, I've heard you. Jeff, I don't know if he's out there listening, but I've heard Jeff. I'm assuming if I, I know I can hear Ron, but I've never heard Ron. I don't think on that simplex net. I don't really, besides
you guys, and I don't really hear anybody else. So it's always hard, it's always hard to pick or even know when to jump in. I guess the disadvantage of being down here in the valley, and I guess my question is, I guess for anybody that wishes to answer, do you guys hear a bunch of people as well or not hear a bunch of people? I know everybody's pretty much spread out. So pretty spread out all over this county. And then, you know, they're doing Lancaster County too. And
then Bill, if you could tell me what zone I am, that would be awesome. Cause I'm not even sure. So that's the question there about the 146 580 simplex Saturday night net. Who you hear? Do you hear a bunch of people? Do you not? and Bill if you could tell me what zone I'm in. Thank you, AF3Z, WF3MFP. All right, Mike, I can tell you, you're in the twilight zone. All right, good question. And I forget who I was listening to somebody. But when you're first getting on the air, sometimes
you turn on the rig and you're not hearing anybody. You don't know whether it's your radio, it's the antenna. We all run into that at times. Does my antenna get disconnected or fall down or what? So it is helpful to hear other people's experience to get a... of what we're hearing and is it normal or is it different or what. So anybody want to speak to that? I don't
think I've ever checked into the Simplex Net. If I did, I'd forgotten. So anybody like to speak to your experience, how much you hear when you are listening to the Simplex Net on Saturday nights? This is the F3Z. All right, go for it, Ron. AF3 is it. and the workbench, we're always going to do that, round table workbench, whatever, workbench, WA3VE here in Westchester. I have tried to hear, I'm on the eastern front over here, I think the only couple people who are east of
me who are regular users of the repeater are Harvey, Phil, and Tim AIS. So, and also south and east of me is Tom, KC-3 TMT. So I'm not even sure if those guys would hear. I have tried to hear stations, very rarely do I hear anyone. Now I do not have a beam yet aimed towards the west. When that happens, and that will be up in the attic, only because that's the highest point on the property. I don't have to worry about a tower or any of kind of stuff
in the backyard. But I very rarely ever hear anybody. But I do hear Bill and I do hear CR pretty clearly when they check into that net. So not unusual not to hear stations if you're pretty far out of Manchester County, at least in my regard. AF3Z, W-A-3-Z-E-E. KC3TY Vic was in there. And somebody else, that, I'm Dick, I'll get to you in a second, was that somebody else right after Ron let go? John, you're a little noisy anywhere last time, but we'll take Vic and then I'll get back to
you. KC3TYX, AF3Z. Yeah, KC3TYX. Yeah, same thing when I first started doing it, which hasn't been that long. I turned in there at 8.30 and I would hear nothing for quite a while and I would just kind of give up. But one night I just left the radio on and then all of a sudden I heard Bill OK as a net control south and I found out I could hear Bill and CR. Evan S.E.N. and Mike Zedovie. And I know all those guys live, I don't know, three to five miles away from me. But other
than those guys, I rarely hear anybody. But once in a while, you know, someone will, all of a sudden, they'll come in from one of the other areas, which is really surprising. So that's what I enjoy about it, is the kind of the propagation's different every week. And so... Yeah, you'll hear the regulars, but then all of a sudden you'll hear somebody new that you weren't expecting. KC3TYX, back to NIST. Yeah, thank you Vic. yeah, propagation is very interesting. attention to. Alright John, give
it a shot there. KC3WWCAF3Z. you John, if that was you, this time you had all kinds of noise and stuff and didn't hear much of anything. Very different than what you were before. Power supply or some kind of noise or somebody was doubling with you, I'm not sure. John, give it another try, KC3WWC, AF3Z. now at KC3WWP. much better. ahead. Check in this past week, and I only kind of barely heard like two or three people and they weren't always
and see who you hear because then you do know who you can preach if you had to. But yeah, I really tried to go for the nearest. Maybe you can move around. There was a west. Thank you John, you've heard all of that. Yeah, it's very interesting stuff. Anyone else with comments on what you can hear, especially with the Simplex Net on Saturday evenings, but maybe there's some other Simplex experience you want to share? AF3Z. Whiskey 8, Charlie Romeo whiskey.
Okay, we'll take the Romeo Whiskey after Bill. Bill was in there first. KC-300K, AF-3Z. Thanks Jim, AS3Z, KC30K, sorry about the double CR. Well, Mike, as you know, subject... keep it brief because I actually... in, really doesn't matter. You check in with any zone you hear. When it started out, was originally just The zones only refer to how they had divided up. south of Route 30 was... north of Route 30. from, geez, Dalton. York down into.
is now, we actually changed the name to the Langstrom Simplex Net to the... here. It really varies per night for me and I do find propagation and terrain interesting because Vic and I are only a few miles apart and Mike, Casey Five, ZOB is also close to Vic and we hear very different stations during the To your question, Mike, if we have 35 to 40, I probably hear all but about five or six. Sometimes some in the West, and some
people are only working HDs and working low power, so don't always get them all. But when I started my first couple weeks, I got one check-in. So I was running a J-Pole with the Kenwood mobile radio and the antenna at about 23 feet. really lets you find out what your rig's doing. And I saw market improvements each time. When I went to the Diamond X50, huge jump. When I went to this 300, huge jump. And when I got up to 50 feet on the 510, another huge jump.
So, sorry talking along here about that. that's the deal. And the other thing about listening, mentioned... We do try in the first round to just take only five check-ins because we recognize that some people are only going to hear a few. So we want to get through all three neck controls to make sure everybody that's out there listening hears someone within about the first 10 minutes. So I think that answers everything. So back to you, Jim. AS3Z, KC3O, OK.
Thank you Bill, that's interesting, that's a good way to do it. CR, over to you, W8CRWAF3Z. Very good, Jim. My comment is propagation makes all the difference. know, some weeks I can hear central and east and I never hear west. But central and east, some weeks I can check in with either one of those. Then other weeks, like last week, I couldn't hear Kevin. And Kevin is just skipping a jump away. And I know he was there, but he was very noisy.
So that's how it works. Good nights and bad nights. back to net, W8CRW. I heard another repeater coming in there. All right, very good. Thank you, CR. One last try here. Anybody else with experience you had trying to listen to the Simplex Net on Saturday nights? How much you hear or don't hear? This is AF3Z. KC30K, one last comment. I should have the Swellton receive set.
Mike, you asked about when do you call out? If you hear anyone else calling, if you hear someone else calling into NET Control after they call, throw out your call sign because relays are important part of it as well. And you don't have to worry about doubling with anyone because with simplex... you can wait and listen and never hear the other stations. So we get doubles that the other two stations would never know they're doubling. So just
put your call out there and see if somebody hears it and relays it in. So that's the other point. Back to net control, KC-3, okay. Alright thank you, Bill, let me get over to you Mike. Any follow up or whatever? W3MSB AF3Z. AA308 is checking and it woke up from under the bus AA308. Okay, Mike, I don't know what was going on there. Leon, heard you. I didn't hear anything and
I couldn't bring up the repeater. Then Leon called in on the digital side. So I fired up EchoLink here and went into transmit and then I could hear you down there weak when I was supposedly transmitting. I was hearing you through the radio. So let me check with somebody else. Maybe I was... I don't know what's going on. want to speak to what just happened there? I'm confused. Jim, this is WA3VE. Very, very, very low audio, Mike, and
you know I can copy on the input on RF. you're using RF, I can certainly check on your next transmission. But very low audio. Back to you, Jim, AF3Z, WA3VE. Yeah, I was mystified. Mike, do you want to try it again there? Because, I didn't hear anything until the very end of AF-3Z. He doesn't have his PL on. I hear him beautifully on the input. explains it, W3MFB, this is AF3Z. See if you've got propagation now. Talk about amateur hour
over in the MFB shack. Sorry, keep, my, all right, so I have the 991 alpha and I got the soft menu button open. And Ron, you'll know, you have the radio. The reverse button is right over the tone and the CS button. So, fat finger must have hit that while I hitting the reverse, trying to listen to people like I like to do on the net or any of these nets. And that's
probably what happened. So what I was trying to say was thank you, thank you all. And Bill, thanks for making that second point about if I hear somebody call and wait until they're done and then call right after. So that's good point. And I'm glad you guys have the relay system going on there as well. So, brilliant, brilliant. So thank you all for all your information and your tidbits and knowledge and all that. I'm going to stay away from that button for a little while. AF3ZW3MFB.
I got a good laugh out of this anyway. Thank you. Interesting conversation. Good question. Alright John, KC3WWC, say something not too long and we'll make sure we're hearing you okay. This is AF3Z. I don't know if you can change anything, but you're quite noisy. I'm sort of hearing everything, but it's not comfortable to... That was you, John. That was worse. Let me go to Bill here, he had a question and then we'll
come back to you John and if we can work that out. KC300K, what's your question tonight? AF3Z? It's a simple one and a brief one, hopefully. I have two questions. for this. is I know that standard rack cabinets are 19 inch. would be a standard depth design. What are their recommendations for a good? 18 and 20 inches. So I'm just curious what other people have. And that's it Jim, back to you, AS3Z, KC3, oh okay.
Alright Bill, so you want the Boadanker answer, not the ICOM 7300 answer, right? is correct. guess the boat anchor answer drives it. Although I have to say, just looking at the one scope I got from Ron, that looks like about 18 inches it needs by the time you get the plug in the back. Back to you Jim, AM3Z, KC30, okay. I couldn't resist. Anybody with experience on rack and shelves, what kind of depth is good. variety of
John, you should have some experience here. Go ahead, this is AF-36. two of my racks. One rack is one foot five inches. One foot five inches and the other one is one foot six. You're looking at 17, 18 inches. as a depth. I'm sure there are... And that's what mine are. Call it a foot and a half. And you try not to have too many things protruding out the back of a chassis when you mount
things on a panel. So if you use 12-inch chassis or 14-inch chassis, you're okay. But as you're approaching 16 or 17 inches, if it's an open rack, no back in it, then it doesn't matter. And one of my racks is like that. There's no door on the back. But I have another one that does have a door, so you're limited there. This is WA-3KFT. Thank you John and welcome back Joe. Good to hear you. Go ahead Joe. This is AF3Z. Yeah,
I'm getting ready for Luke. We have mentoring tomorrow and Wednesday. There's no standard depth to a rack. I have racks up at the repeater site that are 30 inches. I have some in the basement that are 26. I have some that are 14. The only thing standard about the rack is the rack panel width, which is 19 inches. Now the rack will be wider than 19 inches because things like 21 and a half or something. I forget. the screw that you screw
into... in a bit from the edge of the rack. But racks can vary all over the place for depth. Back to you, Jim. Okay, thank you Joe. Anybody else have any comments on this? V3 VEE. Good run. Very good. Have a sleep over here, but I think Bill you also asked about shelving. And of course the ideal is to be able to get to the back of your equipment. However, here things slide out pretty readily. And I have no way to not use shelving. The radio is in front of me here
and the shelving that holds all the monitors. That is a full 24 inch depth. And that is quite adequate. Let's put it this way. Everything fits. So the radios on the left, those are on 16-inch shelves. And the system I have over here that I highly recommend, it's pricey, but it works. And you never have to worry about things caving in. And that's the dual channel. I think their one name brand is Closetmade, but these things are dual channel standards
and the brackets are very, very robust. So 16 inch and 24 inch if that's what you were asking about shelving at least. And yes, on a rack, I would recommend using a rack that has as much depth as you have reasonable room for. here that houses all my amplifiers is a full 24 inch depth. Back to you Jim, AF3ZWA3VEA. Okay, very good. We're having a real in-depth conversation here tonight. Bill, how are we doing? I think you probably have a good bit of information, though it didn't answer the
question completely. I mean, you have to make up your mind. KC-3-0-K-A-F-3-Z. KC3Z? KC3, oh okay. Yes, it did answer the question completely. And it just put me comfortable with the kind of numbers I was seeing. appreciate that the information on the racks and I am going to try and build one myself, kind of make it look like an old rack. do know that sometimes the plugs and cords be nice if all the power clubs come with a 90 degree connector.
at I guess between 18 and 20 inches for the shelves and then the actual size of the risers are going to be 24 inches wide. radios will sit on them, but there'll be a space between them and the back of the riser and there'll be panels that come off. So I'll have a wiring rack behind that. So I'll have a total of 24. So I appreciate it. That is... KC-3, okay, back to neck control. Thank you Bill and congratulations on all the progress you're making down there. Still looking
forward to seeing it someday. And I've got this mental picture but who knows what it looks like for real. Alright John, hopefully we can get through to you this time and hear you well. KC3WWCAF3Z. Trying our best. How's this? Don't whisper but speak up at hearing everything. So last week All Star was giving me trouble. I had it on my phone hotspot for the first to a parent node, so it wasn't working, but I could not get into 985. It just kept saying
connection failed. Does anybody else have this experience? Is it something with 985? Is it something that I should do differently? Thank you. Back to you, KC3WW. John, first of all, did you send a message to N3QBE to Martha to get on the 985 list AF3Z? All star node works fine. So you are on the list, so that's good. Anybody have some response for John there on the, I missed a little bit at the beginning, Al, if you're talking All-Star or what? Anybody else have a comment? AF3 is it?
W3GMS. Joe. There's a report in the end, I'll tell you. Hey John, I haven't gotten any complaints from anybody else. We have probably 15 different All-Star check-ins over a given 24 hour period signing on and off and things like that. And I haven't received any issue. You're still on the permission list. The permission list goes by node number. So if you have a dash one or a dash two or something, I think Martha
has to put that, that's a new... on the permission list. But if the node is the same inside and it works and it doesn't work outside, that's can't think of a thing that would call for that on 985. And as I mentioned, there's no other reports of an issue. Go ahead. Okay, that's good to know. I didn't know if there was a network, if there had to be a certain network or something, and I could get other nodes to work and other stuff. So it's
something I'll continue to debug, but on my side. Thank you. wish I could help you more, we just haven't had that issue. So turn the crank, watch the checklist drop, and I'm sure you'll figure it out. 73GMS. 73GMS. How many checked in tonight? I can't talk while I'm thinking here. I'll count you as a chicken. A chicken. Chicken. Oh, I'm in bad shape tonight. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, I think 16.
And thanks for jumping in, Joe. and it's always good to hear you. So let me just drop it here. I think we're done with that. Any other questions or comments? Call now. is AFL. Hopefully nobody's falling asleep during that nice long pause. All right, very good. Let's see if one more call here. Anybody, any questions that popped up since the last call or anybody else out there who's been listening, we'd like to let us know you're listening. We'd like
to hear that you're there. so if anybody wants to check in here as we're wrapping it up, again, we'd like to hear from you if you've been listening. So any other check-ins here? This is AF3. Echo Mike Sierra. Jerry, Echo Mike Sierra, electric motive, no that's an F on the end, electromotive force. Mike Sierra, but I know your call. Good evening, Jerry. Any comments you'd like to make to the group? This is AF3Z. Nope, this is Chris. KD3 echo Mike Sierra, Emergency Medical Services.
So, new user, I talked to Joe a couple times, but this is my first time listening to the Money Night. Good Chris, sorry about that. Your voice even sounded kind of like Jerry and the beginning of your call got cut off. So I only heard the EMS and I thought it EMS. So welcome aboard. For my own curiosity, where are you located Chris? Right now I'm in my house on the MHT in Whitehorse, right on 340 if you know where the Whitehorse
Fire Company is or the Whitehorse Luncheonette, the little diner there. We're right there. I'm usually on mobile. I do a lot of work in the area, so I'm usually on mobile throughout the day. But as of right now, we're just here in the town of Whitehorse. And you are doing very well with an HT. There's a little bit of hiss in the background. Your audio's good and coming in very nicely there with the HT. Well, thanks for calling in here.
And I'm glad I got your call and everything right. Welcome aboard. Anybody else who would like to call in, check in with us here before we close the door on the round, or the workbench tonight, AF3Z? you Just trying to check in earlier during my parks on the air. I have a quick question with anyone who has any experience on six meters. The only portable rig that I have that borderlines on HF and I've had some varied luck with that. Just out of curiosity, what wattage is everyone
transmitting for those of you who have experience on six meters? Most of my experience has been on two meters so far, a little bit on 10. And I'm just trying to get an idea of what people are using. 3QNC. Yeah, that's right. back, you're a little stronger now. Good to hear ya. Anybody have a response there on six meters and what kind of power you're running? This is AF3Z. Mango.
You can turn it right over to John W.E.3.K.A.F.T. This is A.F.3.Z. I usually just do sideband and then occasionally that FM repeater in Honeybrook. for sideband I'm usually running anywhere between, I mean the rig will do 100, but I usually run about 70 watts depending, I mean it depends
if there's an opening. or as I like to say, when people, when there's a contest, you know, like the January and summer, I forget what it is, UHF, VHF contest, everybody out of the woodwork and it seems like you end up working the same people over and over again during those contests. But yeah, around 70 watts or so, only because like I only have a hundred. And if somebody asked me to turn it up and I'm always running 100 watts, it's just kind
of silly. I can't turn it up any higher. So not that that much 30 watts or so is not going to really do anything, but you never know. So yeah, that's right in the middle of the road there, sort of, is how much I run. Sometimes less. Honestly, I like running less for some reason. I always get yelled at by Barry, KD3X about that. Uh, you know, whatever you need to do to make the contact, I guess. Uh, I always feel like it's like, uh, manhunt or hide and
seek. Uh, you can hear them pretty well. You have a pretty darn chance of them hearing you. So, uh, you know, I just kind of take it easy on the, on the power. Uh, put over to John, uh, Oh God, just lack KFT. Sorry. Just, uh, I just lost. KFTW3MFB, sorry. W-A-3-K-F-T. The best I can do is a radio that has, that claims to have 100 watts, let's put it that way. Typically I'm running 80 to 90 watts. And I do have a six element beam.
that, and most of my activity on six meters is single sideband. But... A few decades ago, my go-to six-meter rig was a little 5-watt AM rig. And a lot of it depends on the antenna. And in my case, having the antenna at 50 feet in the air, 45, 50 feet in the air, certainly helped when I was running low power. The beam isn't that high off the ground anymore. I had a squalo up at 52 feet, but it's a great antenna, omnidirectional and you hear everything
in any direction. But my beams have never been that high. I want to say 35 feet is where my 6-meter beam is. So we go from there. This is WA-3KFT. Thank you, John. Also thank you, Mike. Joe, think it is entry Q &C. Over to you. Any follow-up there? I the feedback. I've been doing six meters on parks on the air, so looking for portable rigs to take out. I do have a six meter rig. It's pretty old. I think it's older than
me, actually. And weighs a ton, so trekking that through the woods is always fun, along with a big battery. So I do have a couple smaller units. I'm if everyone's running 100, I'm guessing that's probably my issue. I'm probably just not pushing out enough power, which is good to know. And I appreciate everyone's feedback. Longtime listener to the club here, so I appreciate everyone's feedback this evening. 73 and 3 QSC.
Thanks for joining in here. looked you up on QRZ and it says GAP. So yeah, you're into the repeater very, very well. I didn't put out another call, but any other feedback there on six meters, I didn't check around again. So any other comments there? AF3Z. WA3VE. energetic elf. Go ahead, Ron. Very good. Yeah, I'm kind of bouncing between the shop and the shack, so I'm on All-Star right now. But anyway, also there are a number of on 6 meters. I know
John is familiar with those, KFT. But the guys up in Pottstown have nets on Wednesday night. And I think if you just go on the A-R-R-L site, or in Google in general, and you just put it
in the search engine, amateur radio 6 meter nets. southeastern pennsylvania you should be able to uh... find something there's also one of our uh... repeater group uh... users uh... stephanie coals i don't remember her call right off but she's uh... going to be joining us for that on sunday night on six meters and she is located up in wind gap pennsylvania and that's the actual gap that uh... you go through uh... on route thirty three north from
allentown that after you get through that gap you're officially in the polka dot mountains that gives you some geographic stuff that's an input on six meters from this end they have three set w a three v e Thank you, Ron. All right. Anybody else who wanted to add a comment on anything at this point? And then we will wrap it up. AF3Z. The caulk, the woodwork, they keep coming out. W3MFB and then KFT again, AF3Z here. I'm going to let John go, WA3KFT, go ahead. And then I'll go.
Some frequencies on six meters that are busy. I run a net nine o'clock Sunday night, 50 decimal 550, single side. Monday night, 730, 50 decimal 150. That's 50 decimal 150. That's a pack rat net. Wednesday night, 50 decimal 130, 50 decimal 130 is the Pottstown sideband net, and 50 decimal 400, 50 decimal 400 at 9 p.m. is the Pottstown AM amplitude modulation net. And nine at, no, eight o'clock Friday night, fifth. 50 decimal 160, 50 decimal 160 is Delaware
Valley Friends. So if you need a repeat, ask me, WA3KF. And yeah, Joe, do you need a repeat on any of that? I appreciate all that feedback. I mean I was driving so I had to whip out my phone real quick and start writing that down. But yeah, that's perfect. I appreciate that so much. You'll definitely start hearing me on the six meters then once I get everything up and running. And I appreciate it. N3, QNC. Very good Joe. Mike, you have a comment still.
He nailed them. John got them all. Yeah, I only knew of the Wednesday ones, but yeah, he got the rest of them, so that's brilliant. Yeah, I had a different question, but it's off topic, I guess. Okay, and it's 2124 according to my little clock here. Any other final comments or anything for the workbench this evening? This is AF3Z. sounding quiet and of course everybody can go to bed if they want but Mike if you want to
air your question those of us who are still here can listen AF3Z. appreciate it. I'm just having fun and had a question. For days back, back in the day, like when the space shuttle was going up and down and all that, were you guys listening to any of that traffic from, I guess, Florida and Houston and to the shuttle and whatnot? And where the radio is able to, did you have radios that were able to listen to, I guess? I guess you had the
Mars Modem at that point. be able to hear some of that traffic, because I know they used like around 120 megahertz, and they used a lot of frequencies, but I was just curious if anybody back in the day of your, or your, or whatever. able to listen to any of that traffic with the space shuttle and NASA and all that or even before that AF3Z W3MFP. Mike, and you're obviously not talking amateur radio traffic, NASA space shuttle traffic or whatever. Anybody able to listen to that AF3Z?
W W Good, go ahead, John. As a kid back in the early 90s, I remember playing with the scanner and listening to these things that I understood to be like space station or shuttle or whatever. They were discussing the experiments that they were conducting and that sort of thing. I thought it was amateur radio, but I didn't know back then. What confused me is that it would
hang on for a little while. It's not like eight minutes as it's... the ISS does now. So maybe it was, yeah, maybe they were kind of holding their position or maybe I was listening to something else, but I think I did. That's you. Three GMS, back in again. Joe, I just started to click on top of you. Go ahead, Joe. Yeah, answer Mike's question, years ago Fort Meade in Maryland used to take all the space station traffic and put it
out on HF on amateur radio. And I forget the exact frequencies. I remember 75 meters they would put just listen to myself here. It's a little bit delayed on the couch here relaxing for a few minutes. So Fort Meade, Maryland would get it off of whatever frequency the original transmissions were on and replay it. We can't call it broadcast, but essentially it was rebroadcasting it on
the 75 meter amateur radio band and was all, the rebroadcast was in single sideband. W3GMS or Mike, whoever wants to get it. if I got it. Okay, and going back to John. Very good, Joe. I sort of remember hearing that, I don't think I ever listened. Back to you, John. don't know if any, all right. First of all, anybody else have information for John's AF3Z here? Maybe it was Mike. Now I'm really confused. It was Mike. W3MFBAF3Z. Thank you, W3MFP.
Yeah, I was just curious. I was curious and thank you, Joe, and thank you, John, for your information there. Yeah, I just, you know, I wasn't into radio back in the day and I didn't know if some of you folks may have heard some of that stuff. Everything's digital now and the space bands that they use are up into the high end that some of us play with, I guess.
Not me, but I was just curious if anybody was listening to that traffic. So now I know we have the ISS repeater and sometimes if we're fortunate we can talk to the astronauts on two meter and whatnot. But we do have our amateur satellites. thought it would be interesting to be able to catch some of that in the flesh on the analog, you know, if somebody had. So I appreciate it. Thanks for indulging me at the late hour of the workbench. AF3Z, W3MFB.
That you again, Jim. All I heard was something, Jim. do is I start transmitting. on All-Star and I start transmitting right before Mike is done and that kicks care of the delay and Alicia can hear me. If I would transmit right when he was done you'd never hear me because of the latency. An interesting thing, my good friend Doug Wilkins who passed away maybe three years ago now, he was a partner in a company that got a contract from NASA to build a audio
processing unit that was used on all the communication back and forth. And I have a brand new one of those in the box that will be displayed in the museum. I, Doug had pancreatic cancer and he would come over and kind of give me a few things as his runway was getting shorter. I remember this box? He says, open this. He says, I wager to say you're probably the only person
that has one of those. I've never put audio throughout to see what it sounds. I may do that at some point in time, but I have the actual audio processing that they used on those early flights. AF3ZW3GMS. Cool, Joe. Very interesting. So this was processing the audio before it went into the transmitter, I assume. That's correct, it was used at headquarters. were talking and that was used there. I don't know whether it was used...
in the spacecraft or not, but I know it was used at mission control. That's what I was trying to think of because it's a 19-inch rack mount unit. Although, you know, maybe they had 19-inch rack mount gear on some of the spaceships. But yeah, that's what it was used. So the audio went through that before it went to the transmitter to give it enhanced intelligibility, and it was all analog. Go ahead. Very interesting. Who knows what's tucked away in your basement there on the way to the
museum. All right, thank you, Joe. We have pulled you in a lot tonight. We might get an award for that. All right. One more time. Any other comments out there? This is AF3Z. Well, before we close down here, just appreciate everybody checking in. And a big thank you to Joe for making the repeater here available for us for the workbench. And you're very welcome
to stay on, keep on, get on here often. It's great way to show that we really do appreciate the gift of this repeater to the amateur community. We hope to hear you again on Thursday evening at 8 for the 985 round table. So this is it for the workbench tonight. Have a good night. Great week ahead. 73 and keep pounding that brass. This is AF3Z. Good night. Stellar job Jim, you really rounded them out and got them out of the woodwork tonight. W3GMS, portable.
Thank you Joe, you gotta watch that woodwork. I was out spraying for bugs here today. A number of years ago, we got an invasion of earwigs. And I mean, I was using a vacuum cleaner to try to get them as they were coming in the house. It was crazy. Since then, I spray a little around some key spots and they only come in in ones and twos. 233, Joe, AF36.
Well, I can tell you Martha does not like earwigs. We've had years, especially when we had the swimming pool, in-ground pool, I think it was because all the water out there and the moisture. Man, we would have airwakes. They would get into the acrylic towel bars and they'd run back and forth. you know, me being an old country bumpkin never really bothered me that much. They were just having fun, but it's not like airwakes. I think we've maybe seen five or
six this year so far. Is that accurate? But more than that, you wager a guess? She says she's seen 25 this year. Were they all in sight? She says yes. So anyway, we have more than we had last year, that's for sure. W3GMS. Hello Martha, good to hear you there. I'm not crazy about them either. They're sort of strange little bugs, that one year it was crazy and I don't know what happened or why. We had lived
here a number of years before that. yeah, they are interesting critters. I see them most often like in the kitchen around the sink and in the bathroom, like around the tub. I'm not sure what the plumbing or whatever has to do with it, if anything. I see them a few other places. Usually maybe one or two or three a day. But it was at night and if had the lights on, they seemed to come rushing in to get into the light. Oh yeah, that was a mess that year.
So I have faithfully sprayed some kind of fairly harmless spray, but it seems to keep them down to a minimum. All right, good night to both of you. Good to talk to you. I've got my early morning. dishwashing to do and a couple things to get done before I hit the sack. So good to hear you. Thanks very much 73 and AF3Z over and out. That way I'm in. Yeah, we both have to get up at 6 a.m. get a down.
get by with seven. A lot of nights I have six, sometimes five hours and five hours is really not enough. So there you go. Maybe we need to start an ear wake net on 9-8-5. And we can have Martha's the net control station of the ear wake net. 7-3-8-W-3-G-M-S clear. That's a good suggestion. And the funny thing that ran through my mind when you said that is you hear schools, football teams and stuff named after all kinds of stuff. Imagine your
school. I can't even say it. The Arcelton E-Wigs are taking the field. Good night, AFCZ. Yeah, probably a good time to sign. But you're right, they have all kinds of crazy names. But I am tardy on handing them a time. I've just been incredibly, incredibly busy, but it'll happen. So all the YLs out there, be patient. It's in the works. 73, sleep well. W3GMS, now clear.