You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the Max. I am your host Sean Gmer, and here with me, as usually, Mistermark Morrison. Got it well, this is episode three and ninety three of the show, and we got plenty to talk about here. This was the week of premieres and showcases and then what could have been as well with a certain game. We'll get into that. We'll talk about the follow out TV show. Marcus watched the whole
thing. I've only watched a couple of episodes, so we'll kind of get into that. But Mark someone that has more history of the series than I do, so it'll be interesting to hear his take. We got the talk about Star Wars Outlaws with that new trailer dropping, the what could have been with Dead Space or even a new Dead Space game. The Triple showcase happened this week too. We'll talk about that and some more things right up to it. Awright, Well, let's just get this out of the way really
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think that's not necessarily mister Ridler's doing it. It's another one of his team, so that might come up a come out a little bit later than just like you know, the next week. But they did do the God Deliversus Cang new movie review that is out there and you can go check that out. And we also have an anime show We'll talk with Cafe. They just did their winter finales talking about all the new anime that's out and what the
like what they thought were the best winner shows for this year. And then they also every after every season they do like an awards kind of thing where they give out like you know, best I'm a best Guirrel, best boy, all that stuff. You can go watch that on the channel too. So yeah, definitely allowed to check out there. We are going to go
ahead and get started. I guess a little bit different talk about an actual not interactive part of media here with the Fallout Amazon series, which interestingly has already been renewed for a second season before the first one even dropped. And that's also because they got a really nice chunk of change that they're getting for moving the whole shooting of it and everything to California. So that's cool news that everybody gets to watch it. We'll know that we're at least hitting a
second season. Beyond that, obviously they gotta see what happens here. But Mark, I mean, you're the one that has a lot more familiarity with the series than I do. I've played like parts of New Vegas and three and four here and then what usually happens to me with Western RPGs happens where I stopped playing and then I don't come back. But I've seen a lot of people say that it's making them want to play the you know, play
games in the series. And of course it helps that it. You know a lot of these games are on game Pass and all that stuff, so they're available for people very easily, or you can go, you know, find them in a sale. Yeah, they already cares well, but I'm just saying there's people that just they don't they're not going to go and try to find them. I'm sure they've probably had them on sales. Also to follow seventy six is free right now too for this week if you get it
off Amazon Prime. Uh So a lot of people getting into that. They they're fall seventy six has like their highest player count in a long time as well, thanks to the series. What do you what do you think about it? I thought it was mostly a good a great show up until like
the last two episodes or they kind of bungle it with the continuity. I won't spoil it today, Expequence, you've seen it, but they they they like the you know, BA tested claims are not reconting it but they basically delete Fallout one and two and New Vegas from like the timeline, which is really weird. That's interesting that they're gonna drop Like I understand, okay,
fall Out one and two. They technically that was by a different studio, you know, well so New Vegas, right, but like New Vegas at least Obsidian is with the same team, Like you know, technically the Test and Upsidian could decide to come together. Did you another fall Out New Vegas
that they wanted? Well, yeah, they're all in by Microsoft now, but so yeah, I won't cut into why what what, like that whole Hornet's nest, but I'll just say I didn't like it, and I think, like I'm trying to think of like what's inn like what's another like long
running like RPG series that has continuity between them. I mean, you can't say like Fine Fantasy because they're all different or right, I mean maybe yea, almost all series have some kind of they're not continuing, right, Yeah, so yeah, I guess it's tired for me to like Tales would probably be the the big one, right, not Tales Trails. The Trail series that's all continuous, right, and they have even branching storylines off of that, and uh, it's it's a huge weave of stories if you try to
play it all. I'm not. I guess another good example would be sweaking in like that actual chronology. Uh and the one of the games kind of screws it up. It's still there. Uh So yeah, for them to like delete to like three of the three games out of the six or whatever, seven or whatever, it seems really weird. Aside from that, though, the first time episodes were like really great. Uh. I liked uh La Pernell I think that's her name. Yeah. Uh, she's like really
good. Yeah, she was great at the ball Dweller. Yeah, Lucy. Uh. I don't really know her live acting and stuff that well, I don't watch Yellow Jackets. I know her from like Structured Prodigy, where she voiced like someone fairly different, but you can still kind of hear it, like hear her voice of Tad the Maximus guy. He's okay, he gets better. He seems a little goofy in the first like two episodes or like a little directionless, but he does have an nice arc and the ghoul
is good. You know, Walton fantastic as a goal Like, yeah, just in the parts that I've watched, like anytime he's on screen, I want to keep watching. And he's right, he has a really Actually, they actually do a lot more with him in the past, like in the pre nuke stuff than I thought they would because, you know, the first time, so it opens with like him at a kid's birthday party, like kind of slumming it. I would say, as like the like the cowboy
clown or cowboy. Yeah, and then within ten minutes, so California is nuked and you know that's it. But they go back to him quite a bit in later episodes, like what he was doing before, which is pretty
interesting. Uh, there's a what did you think of the U I've heard I've seen a lot of mixed talk about the the Brotherhood stuff, like how much the way they're involved and ah, so you've seen the first three episodes, right, they do kind of There is a big question of who Maximus has, like a friend Dane. Ah, it was like the more like she's she's the one who gets like the job first that she gets injured and everyone thinks it's Maximus who did it, or he might know who did it.
They could do solve that by the end of the show, which is good. Ah, the Brotherhood stuff is always kind of a little weird because the the the institution is of goofy or you know, just the idea of it. Like, but I think they I think the armor looks really good, Like yeah, yeah, you can some of it's a little c g I, which is fine, but you can tell that's a pretty practical looking suit or you know, a practical prop for at least most of it.
So good on them for that. Uh. I think the world, like the setting or like, you know, the whole you know, it looks great the show, yeah, with it following the like because it follows basically like three different stories, you know, yeah there's yeah, well they also introduced a fourth later on. But yeah it's Lucy, the Maximus, the brothers brother, the Steel guy, and then the Vault guy or the ghoul. Sorry they introduced they go back to the vault, uh sooner, Like
they started going back to the vault pretty soon with Lucy's brother. There's like a mystery there as well, which is not defined that well. Yeah, I think that first episode does a really good job of like setting everything for people that aren't familiar a lot with the series, like you kind of get the idea, and I mean it's very much like intro to Fallout World or you know, uh, the one. I mean, Lucy is like a
very fresh faced character. Like that's kind of the whole point is she's very exactly I mean, because it's supposed to kind of be like the same way you as the player character, aren't familiar with this world until you step out in it. So yeah, the one thing you'll see this I think in the episode six as well. I won't spoil that one, but the one funny thing about Lucy's character is she is an incredibly sexually frustrated yeah, Like
it's hilarious. And the fact that they actually like talk, Like there's a conversation in the first episode with her and her cousin. Yes, her cousin like wants to marry her, and she's like, no, we played we mets wrong. We were we were like teenagers, but now we have to repopulate the vault, so you can't do that, and it's like what, Yeah, like like playing around with your cousin is not great for her.
Populating like it has it has a decent amount of humor, a little some of it's a little like it's not in your face about it, Like it's not you know, it's not front and center, but it's kind of like more in the periphery. But it's still funny, like the uh, I forget the character's name, but the shop owner in the second episode, Yeah, characters funny. Yeah, she tells her to like get out. I told you to get out of here like three times, and then see what
happens. Yeah, having the scientists character from and you know he's the guy from uh well, Michael Emerson. Yes, yeah, it was hilarious to me because I don't think you watched it, but he was in a show called Person Interest. Yes I did. I love that, Okay, him and the dog and then you know, just like yes, you can't get away from dog, can't you. Yeah. He don't even show like two episodes, so right. Yeah, the way that they deal with that,
that's interesting. Well, that like a lot of that place. It feels very much like the parts I've played of Fallout, Like you get a lot of that. The humor is very like you could tell Todd Howard really had a lot. I don't know how much exactly he had to do with it, but he seems very happy with it, and it seems like there is
a lot they they made sure to pay omas to it. It's not like, you know, I'm sure that there are probably people that are like, oh, they messed this up or they didn't do this right or whatever. But from like what Walton Goggins said, you know, he's like, if we made this all for the fans, they wouldn't be anywhere near as good, right. I just I somewhat disagree with that, because they make they make choices later on that are like really pissing off the fans. So it's
a weird. It's really weird what they did. Like we can talk about it later on next week, probably because you'll probably finish the show by then, but yeah, they just make some really awkward choices that does kind of diminish the show by the end. It starts off, starts off great, and then by the end you're like, wait, what just happened? Yeah,
that'd be interesting. I see a lot of I mean, it's it's always very easy for everyone to keep praise at the beginning, right, and then like if I was gonna review review it, like I'd see like the first episodes, I'd give like nine or ten. It's like I think they were actually like all really good episode six and seven. It's only eightisode show
episode six and seven. I'd say, like we're like sevens. Yeah, and then the last episode is like a five or a four just because of like what it did to like the continuity or you know, just like not even that, but just like it raises a lot of like weird questions the show can't can't like answer, like you can tell you can tell the show it's made by the West World guys or you know, the team behind that, because they I think the part of it is that they had to.
There's a they didn't having a few mysteries, uh like sitting up a few mysteries, that's fine, but like they set up so much stuff that they can't answer, and they won't like they won't even bother to try to answer because like they didn't think of it like logically through, so that'll be an issue. But why would you say that they can't answer, because like I said, they don't. They don't they didn't think through about like what's what's
the problem or like how can we solve this? But it's like said something, Well, they have they just have like a line or like have a situation but they won't solve it, or they you know, and trying to really tats are on this like a few issues. That's the problem, right,
I understand. I mean I personally don't mind, but since the show is so fresh, I don't want to spoil it for people that, right, you know, let's just say, yeah, let's just say, like the main the main bad guy in the show is really weirdly written, or like her situation does not make any sense at all. Okay, I'm guessing you're talking about the the one that appears at the beginning. Yeah, she's
one who breaks in the vault thirty two. Yeah right, okay. Also, I love you know, I just because it's being such a big Twins Twin peaks having him be the dada. Yeah, it's fantastic. I wish I had more him. Yeah, like he agree. Well, I mean that's the whole point of getting her to go outside, so that kind of
makes sense. Like, yeah, but we have a nice like a flashbacker, like they never flash back to him at all, or like him like raising her and her brother, or I mean he he has like five or six lines in the first episode and he comes back in the last episode and
that's it. Yeah. So I mean, I mean, like, I mean, at least for three you play enough of that, because it's the whole damn intro where like Liam Neeson is her dad and he actually, you know, you spend a little time with him before you get ejected out. But this doesn't really have that at all. You know, it's just like
the party scene and that's about it. Yeah, I think, you know, it's that's part of it's the pressure of kind of you want to make sure you keep things onwhat moving to get people hooked and then yeah, but also I would say it's also kind of a fatal flaw because like she's like, well, her big question is signing her dad, and he's such like a non factor in the first episode. It'd be like, Okay, I get you know, yeah, sure, but I really do like the world
design, Like I think the Vault was really good. Anything about the show, like production wise, it was really great, and the cast is all good and everything, but it's just the writing, especially later on, that's just kind of wonky. Do you feel like there's like, let's say, somebody hasn't played this series at all right, and they watched this show and they go, oh, man, I really want to play these Now is there one that you say, what is this based off the most? I'd
say Fallot three because it's a whole finding your dad thing. Yeah, that's whole crux. The uh it kind of follows follows the same basic plot as well, you know, getting getting the first town, having stuff happen or you know, and then getting companions along the way. Uh. Yeah. I think that Michael Emerson or Michael Emerson's was a ted weird because it seemed like he was working for the Enclave but he also had a pit boy.
It's like what, yes, why would he have this? Or you know, like I love the way that they like they communicated the thing at the beginning with where she's doing the the marriage proposal to deal and they all just like basically do the equivalent of texting her back with the boys or whatever.
It's like, that's good, that's a good reference. Yeah. Her interview at the start was pretty funny when she was like technical skills in her parents and it's like, yep, why don't you just say your special stat is like I'm highly intelligent, I have eight points in that or something, yeah, and then go, no, I was gonna say that on the whole. I think the show is good, but just like the last few episodes
really like a bitter taste in my mouth. But I think, like you watching it or like a non fan, okay, kind of like breeze byst them, you know, right exactly, we're not gonna get that whole Like I mean, I guess like you would with any everything that guy told you. It's like there's probably a lot of references that I'm not getting that I'm sure you did. There are probably references I don't I'm not getting because I'm
not like obsessed with the show, with the franchise or anything. But I can there are stuff I can point out, like the cartoon in the first episode they're watching it, like I remember picking up picking up that crap, or like certain like uh stuff in like the house or you know, just you know, certain environmental stuff I can pick up probably better than you can, or better than some people. But I'm gonna say that you breeze past
me, right. The one I think that happens in episode maybe episode five? Uh, do you know who Matt Barry is? Yes, he pops up in it. He's real good, awesome, Okay, I definitely gonna make sure I get to then. Yeah, I'm sure that whenever, because Randy's watching it with his wife and she's i think even a bigger fallout fan
than he is. So like, I'm sure when they're watching it, there's gonna be a lot of great stuff that they catch, you know, But I'm glad that these kind of things exist and that this is good, right, like they could have it could have been bad and then we're talking about another Oh man, a bad video game adaptation. Whatever. It's great that this is great. People are enjoying it. It's already got a second season, so you can already know watching it that they're going to continue this.
It's not something you're gonna just watch and then it's over. And it kind of led into obviously speculation about, well, Todd, what about your other big series that people enjoy? What about that? Uh? He says that he's apparently been approached several times about Elder Scrolls, and he said, no,
I worry. Do you think that's more has to do with like people going to compare with the Game of Thrones or do you think it's like what do you think his reasoning for saying no would be, I think a problem with Elders with Elder Scrolls, honestly, is it so generic that like what can you do? Like there's not like a huge story involved with it, so it would just be create like just creating stuffs like kind of whole cloth.
And I don't think if you compared to Game of Thrones, because Game of Thrones had like defined characters and relationship, right, well, I just mean, like, okay, it's another fantasy, you know. I mean I think if they did like an Elder Scrolls TV show, I'd probably more magic in it, or a lot more you know, right, that type
of stuff, because Game of Thrones certainly didn't like that. But considering like we've had the Witcher show already, We've had Game of Thrones already, like you know, the Dungeons and Dragons movie, Like, we've had a lot of that. So like Fallout is sp Fallout feels so much different than things, right, it feels like something we don't see a lot. Yeah, we had West World, it's made by some of the same people, but it feels unique as whereas like you're saying, Eldest Girls would feel like,
hey, here's another fantasy thing. Yeah. I mean the closest thing you probably compare a Fallout to is like The Silo. Ah, yeah, that's but that's a gay drama show or you know, much more grounded in like reality than Fallout, because Fallout is intentionally kind of going It's not campy,
but it's kind of going for more like irreverent take on stuff. It was a great character in I think it's episode eight or seven that is YenS because it's it's a guy obsessed with auto quality in the in the fucking you know, post apocalypse. Yeah, I get that. I could definitely see that. Yeah, Like it doesn't matter the world basically ended. I still care
about my damn audio. Yeah, it's like, oh you can't get you can't get Oh you want the original pressings because they had the right aombie you know, they had the right mids, highs and bass, And I'm just like, wow, Okay, So I mean I'll certainly watch season two when it comes out in a year or two or whatever. But right, uh, yeah, I just think like the writing did kind of let it down
by the end, but I'm the whole still recommendable, you know. Yeah, for sure, and yeah, I think episode six, I want to say it's episode six is when like Lucy and Maximus actually do have like much more like they get together and they have much more of like a friendship, and that actually really helps crown the characters as well, because you get a lot more of his I want to say, motivation, but like a lot more his as a as a character, because I have the problem in the
first few episodes just he doesn't seem he's pretty passive as a character, and it's like once he actually gets involved, it's when he gets better. Yeah. I do love the scene when they need the passing of the Brotherhood suit.
Yeah, which one when he when the first Titus gets not gets out of it or yeah the first one Okay, yeah, yeah that was well, and then it plays off the whole like why did they do the whole sort of why he joined the Brotherhood and everything, what happened to him, And then that moment I'm just like, there's no way because you can feel that like, man, he better not do what I think he's gonna do.
And then he actually does the opposite, and I was like, Okay, yes, totally down with this, and then I love the like him playing around in it and stuff like that. It's like, yeah, it feels like something totally anybody would do if they get get in that the first time. So I think it's also the show is also kind of interesting because it cast a lot of comedians in like main role or not main roles,
but gets roles. Like I think it makes sense for the world though, because there's, like you said, there's a lot of humor that well yeah, but they're not like playing at They're not playing comedic characters, right, But it's much more like the Bill Burr situation in The Mandalorian, like casting a comedic actor but having him to do like a dramatic role or semi dramatic role. You know. Yeah, for sure, I liked it well enough.
Uh. You know, once you talk about it next week, maybe we can get into more nitty gritty part of it or yeah, definitely give
people the time to well what do you think about Uh? I know we've talked about this a few when other shows have come on, but a lot of talk about why Amazon did the opposite of what they normally do when they have a big series where they make it normally they make them episodic and this one they just dropped it all together, and a lot of people were saying that this kind of ruins the whole keeping the show and the zeitgeist kind of
thing. I don't know, I don't I don't care. I think the show kind of worked almost like you know, it's like a well, like a six hour or seven hour movie, you know, like and it's not like I also don't think they show cliffhanger as well, or it's not like episode every episode doesn't end like some huge cliffhanger, so you're not like waiting, dying to see the next week or anything. So I think the way
it did it was perfectly fine. Also, I don't care. I mean, even if the show comes out weekly, I would probably still rather just you know, wait till it's all done and then just watch it all won't go anyway. So yeah, that's what I saw too, is well,
it's like how many people are going to watch it? I mean, episodically when it's something that's not necessarily like when you're trying to get people to really watch the show, and how many people are going to drop off and then be like, oh, I'll just watch it when it's all out yeah, Like, how many shows do you currently watch weekly anyway? Me just like
a few. You know, I don't watch any I mean unless it's like the only show that I actually regularly watch would be like Star Trek, Change Exchange in the World, and Prodigy, Doctor Who, and that's you know when that's on, right, it's about it how for me when that comes back? Yeah, but as someone who just like you know, Marathon the first season of Power Rangers has a lot a lot more fun for me to
just watch twenty episodes in a row. Then, Oh no, definitely, I think, but I understand people's thought process of like TV shows have always kind of been this way of if you really want them to kind of like be talked about or have that when the show is airing kind of thing. Like it was weird to me almost Disney did it with the the new X Men series because it's, uh, it's animated, Like I would have thought
they would have just dropped that all at once. Uh, But I can kind of see that in a way of just oh, when the new episodes comes out or the two new episodes come out, people talk about it. You know, they did they did that with that What If show? Yeah, what if show? I don't know, you can make a point for both, but also any know, these things aren't on TV anymore, so who cares? Yeah, most people are not actually watching them live on TV
either're watching them on whatever streamer later, right you know? So uh that's kind of I think what's her TV the most is you don't have the big outside of the absolutely huge ones that still exist, Like I think, like you know, House of Dragon and a few others that have the water cooler moments, you don't really have that anymore. With TV shows. It just becomes like, oh, what do you watch? Oh? Okay, I watched this? Oh, and you find you might find one or two shows
that you both watch. I mean it's a problem also, too many options, And then you know, yeah that too. The landscape is so splintered now you can literally never get out of the niche of shows that you like because there's the next one for you. It's always funny to me to look up old shows us to like that were canceled to do like low ratings. It's like, oh, this show on my gout eight million viewers. That's
why I was canceled because of low ratings. And it's like if the show got that now, it would be like the number one or number two show, right. Yeah. So it's like you look at the the the ratings for for WW right now, I'm like, yeah, man, that would have been nothing back then when everybody was watching it. But now it's like they got to be happy with that because they know more people are watching on they're watching YouTube highlights, so they're watching the shorter version on Hulu or whatever
later, like you know, So it is what it is. That's that's how TV is. But it's good when you have these uh these ones based on video games that are good and and that's what I'm excited about is hopefully we'll have more between the movies and the shows, uh and not necessarily the bad stuff that we used to have. Uh respect those video game meditations because they're probably going to be the next thing until we you know, run out
of the ones that people make. A can't Marvel and DC anymore. So yeah, yeah, I mean it's gonna really be interesting what happens with Wolverine and Deadpool if that can even jump start uh that, because you know, they're talking about X Men and all that stuff, and I'm just like, something's gotta keep them afloat until then. I think Deadpool and Wolverine will be actually a pretty big hit. But the problem is that'll probably be the end
of it. I mean, then they make a dead Pool four, you know, right, if they can, if they can get but I mean like getting people interested in the MCU in general again, Oh well, I think that's that's a problem. Is like the MCU has exhausted all their big
characters or you know, the big property. So it's like, yeah, we're getting a fucking uh uh oh mister is it mister Wonderful or I forget the character's name, wonder Man, that's it a Wonderman TV show and an Echo TV show, And it's like, what the fuck is you know? Who the fuck cares? Like? Right, I mean, we are getting some bigger ones, but now we have to wait. They're not all coming bam bam bam. Like you're getting the Fantastic four again, you know you're
this one. You'll get the X Men eventually if if the ones that are in process now do decently enough. It's just like, I wonder how much what is a win for them now that a billion is not a success, right, Like, what is is it five hundred million? Is it two hundred million? Like what is considered a success for them now is what I'm wondering. Uh, yeah, because that second is they got too high on
Avengers level money exactly. Yeah, and you know, Man three sucked, but it maybe turn to profit like a very small one, but like you know, Miss Marvel too, or the Marbles was certainly Yeah, Like the only one that got even close was Guardians three, right, right, and then everything else paled in comparison. So it's definitely going to be interesting to see what happens with like what is their new eals? You know that that
kind of bomb to an extent. Yeah, but they had other movies after that, like I'm just talking about in this recent string of stuff that has really fallen off a clift. Yeah, and even the TV shows don't seem to have the same interest at all. You know. It's yeah, so we shall see what's going on with this. We'll we'll talk about this more
next week. I will probably try to make considered every to finish watching the series and we can get into some nitty gritty stuff or whatever there and and give people more of an option to Okay, we're gonna get into the spoilers. So if you haven't watched it by the second week that it's out,
that's kind of on you at that point. But yeah, let's move on here to talking about another movie franchise that is also they've gotten a million of gazillion games, but especially this year, it feels like everything Star Wars just getting remastered or something else. But you showed off the story trailer for Star Wars Outlaws. Yeah, what did you? It's about like three minutes. What did you think of what they showed here? Anything impressing you on that?
Ah? Two things jumped out at me. One was about halfway through it really looked like an Assassin's Creed game for a second when you're like doing parkour around like some city. Ah, I was like, is this person gonna climb up with the wall? Like? It looked really almost I almost thought that was gonna happen. And yeah, the second thing, and I know you don't particularly want to talk about this, and I'm pretty tired of it it already as well, but what the fuck is up with the main
character? I mean, I don't to me, it depends on the lighting and what picture you grab, and I'm not I don't particularly care about like overall attracting miss for you know, who you're playing as like that much. But she looks like a stereotypical like lesbian trucker from the eighties, And it's like, yeah, I mean, who do they need to like, I'm not like, I don't know about I mean, the model this is based off of this doesn't look something like that. So that's the thing that like,
that's what's like making me crazy. Is like the actress her name is like something weird, right, Oh what is it? Yeah, Humberly Gonzales. She's incredibly attractive, like right right, you know, And so to get this fairly beautiful woman to voice the character and presumably mocap and basic you know, base it off her. Yeah, and she taking like you know, not eight nine ten women depending on what you think you know, you're on and turning into her too. But I mean, again, like I
don't know how this works. I'm not going to pretend to know how this stuff works. About is it only like they can base it off her, but it's not supposed to look exactly like her? Does that involve more money if it's based exactly off of her? Uh, it's not like if okay, but if that's the case, she's not like to be a big actress, you know, right, But like, yeah, I just I think
about the Cellar Blade thing. You know, they got the beautiful Korean actor, Korean model, right, but she doesn't look exactly like her either. They they did the anime face with No, that's that's what I'm That's what I was gonna say, is you had a beautiful woman and then they are more beautiful beautiful and they are extremely ugly. Yea to me, it's just it's different cultures and what they're trying to sell the game for. We don't know if Disney had a hand in that as well, right, Like,
remember this is not just Soft deciding this. This is a big ass corporation that also decides every minutia moment of what goes into this game and what. Yeah, but then but then you know, look at the Fall Letter games, you know, the Star Wars, Like, yeah, like it's it's a it's a it's I I agree to that extent, right, Like they made the guys look more like the guys and the girl and the women don't look necessarily like the women do the models? Yeah, you can point that
out. You could definitely point out Star Wars Jedi. They the well, the main female actress looks exactly like how if she looks in real life? Right, But I think it's just I don't know if it's the studio. I don't know, if it's Disney decided they don't want her to be like the next face of Star Wars, or I don't know what the decision comes
down to to exactly how they decide to animate. I know the devs have talked about that it's not easy to do these one to one things for everyone, right, also tends to cut corners sometimes with that kind of thing. Everyone is fine, but the main character is Yeah, I just think it's like it's extremely off putting. I don't think most you know, I don't think that like most guys want, you know, they don't they don't need
like a Laura Croft or like the sexiest character ever. But someone somewhatally pleasing is nice. Like I mean, I particularly like, Okay, if we're if we're going to get into this, I think it just to me, it depends on what we're talking about here, right, because I think the Stellar Blade thing has been absolutely blown out of proportion. It is absolutely ridiculous.
It's gotten into levels that go beyond just the video game, to the point where we're only talking about what the the fake pixel uh female character looks
like and not the actual game. And that's my problem is that, look, developers and and whoever makes these decisions, whether it's for Star Wars, whether it's sell Blade, whether it's uh FO fans and Rebird, whether it's whatever insert character, whether they're you think they're ugly or not, it's all in the eye of the beholder, don't I don't know why X is it DEI I don't know. I don't really want to get into that. I've avoided talking about that the entire time. Yeah, i'd say this is a
game that it just makes it really stand out to me. But I mean it's also with the setting of the character, like it does it does it would it help? Maybe some folks will buy it or not buy it because of that, But it's like, I think a lot of people just aren't going to care it's Star Wars. That that's position. Actually the opposite is he doesn't care because it'll be soft, right. But I mean, like the fact that what was just you know, if you're watching on video.
I just played the trailer and and the stuff they've shown of the game looks interesting, Like I'm interested because it's different. It's not you're not playing a Jedi, you're not playing other You're playing different. You're playing like a Han Solo type character in this game. And it's I don't know. To me, it is cooler than just focusing on whether you think the female character that
you're playing as is hot or not. Right, you know, I don't Yeah, just go well, no, they didn't cast you know, Carrot Top or the equivalent of him in nineteen seventy as Han Solo. They cast a very all American boy, right, But I mean that's different. You're trying to start the entire Star Wars and this is a movie, like you're I think it's different when you're watching something, right, you're watching it. It needs to be aesthetically pleasing. There needs to be somebody that's hot,
needs to get somebody that's in the door. Right, it happens with everything. Like I'm just saying like, yeah, but I don't want to I don't think most people are going to want to play a game. And it's nothing against her at all, they don't want to play a game. We look, we play as the as the Amy Scenarios character from The Mandalorian for twenty or forty hours, you know, and I'll get Amy Scenarios is actually
attractive. But they have to really uglier up for the Mandalorian intend you know, because he's you know, living on a fucking you know, in the desert for you know, forty or fifty years. Yeah, I don't think it's I think it's a weird it's a weird trailer. Uh, you know, we can move off it. The game will fivey okay, but I ain't gonnapply. The problem is a pied just come and go like a lot of crack these days, like let'll come out, it'll be it'll be talked
about for a week maybe and then yeah, thank gone. You know, I don't know. I mean, I want to see how much of the Ubisoft stuff is going to be in that game, right, We haven't that yet. That's the other thing. The pricing around is fucking ridiculous, right, Yes, they well it's seventy dollars for the standard as you would expect
that. They have two different editions. One of them has the Season Pass with the DLC and all that stuff, and then you get the early access and then there's another one that's one hundred and twenty dollars that you get more of it. Yeah, you get more stuff plus the three days early access,
and it is what what games are you know today? Uh, you don't have to buy it, like, yeah, speak with your wallet if you don't like the fact that you be self charged one hundred and twenty dollars for that stuff that's in the Ultimate editions, you get their wallet, don't buy it, right, Yeah? Is it outrageous? Yes? I agree? Oh, I think it's funny. The Ultimate Edition is one hundred and
thirty bucks USD. Yeah, and in candidate's two hundred and if you did if you did the you know, the currency difference it actually so it'll would only be about one. So they even over a charge there as well. Wow. Yeah that's yeah. But I don't know, I think it just kind of depends for me on like what else is coming out around that time, Like if there's like if we get to August and like around that time, there's like nothing else I'm interested in enough to really think about it.
Again. My my other issue is that it's a story based game. Uh. And it's also you be Soft and how quickly is that thing going to be at fifty dollars dollars? You know? And that's it's it almost makes me want to do the same thing I did for Prince of Persia where it's like, oh, I'll just subscribe to you be Soft plus for a month.
I mean, that's the thing is there. I'm pimping that thing because you can spend one hundred and thirty bucks in Ultimate Dation or you know, rent or buy me Soft Plus for a month and get the Ultimate Dation with that. It's like, yeah, and you still at the three days early thing, which is hilarious to me. Like it's like, I guess you're hoping to God that the person will just forget and stay subscribed for another couple
of months before they figure out that they still subscribed. I don't know what they're doing, because I mean, other than that, like you're I got the Ultimate Edition for essentially eighteen bucks, and then I can go and and get the standard edition and I still saved a lot of money, right, you know, So it's it's a man, I get what they're doing, but it's like I don't think it works like that where if you're it's I think it's nice because the way that Xbox does it is kind of shitty if
you're a longtime game Pass subscriber, right, But with us it's kind of weird because they probably know that there's not people that are just subscribing to you Soft Plus all the time, so like it's a way to get you in the door, and then they're hoping that you'll like some other Ubisoft stuff and stay subscribed. And I don't know, it's better in the way that you don't feel like, oh, people that paid one hundred and twenty dollars get
the three days early. But I'm a game Pass subscriber and I have to wait, and I've been subscribed to game Pass for all this time, So I kind of get people's feelings on it both ways. But you know that's the thing, if you're going to offer me that, I think, now, I get a lot of people that aren't into uh, you know what, they're not watching paying attention to the gaming stuff all the time. I'm
probably not even gonna know this, right. How much are they going to promote that in any kind of ads and stuff that they show of the game, Like, I see this all. I see that ad all the time
now when I watch something on YouTube. But like, I wonder, if you watch this on with your regular shows and stuff, how much gubusoft plus is going to show up in the ad And you're gonna get a lot more people subscribing through ubisaw Plus you finish the game, and maybe they don't even buy the actual game at all, So you've got that issue as well. This is not like a multiplayer game the deeple are going to continue to play
constantly. This is a game that they're gonna just probably play and that's it. It's over. So until they come out with the DLC with you know, who knows how long that's gonna take. Is one of them gonna be out before the end of the year, or are they both coming out in twenty twenty five. We'll see. But yeah, uh, it's a cool three minute trailer. Good to know that we know what's gonna gonna happen in the story. I'm intrigued by it. The one I don't even think she
was in a trailer. But the one funny thing I did see was that I forget the character's name, but Emilia Clark's character from Solo was supposed to be in it, and your name is Kira, yes, and they're like, but she's not coming back to voice the character, and I'm just thinking, yeah, no, shit, you don't need to say that, like surprise, yeah, like not surprised there, but all right, Uh, speaking of showing more new games here, we had the Triple I Showcase,
which is essentially like just kind of putting a bunch of like the I guess more known indie devs together and saying, here's the showcase for those games. What did you think about it? Like, I guess the way they did it, and in the games that got announced and said about twenty five or thirty games, maybe maybe a little less. I would say it's pretty split half and half between either city building games or dual joy seccooters. Yep,
there's a lot of Roague Roadue games as well. In class by that in the Jewel Choice e Scuter part, you know, honestly, like, yeah, that that Hades knockoff really singles. I thought, uh, well, there were actually a few Hades knockoffs. The one that was kind of interesting was the thirty three Immortals or what the fuck was called Yes, that's the one that. Yeah, they've shown it off a few times, it's going
to be on game Pass. Yeah. Uh but I was okay, but I started kind of get bored just because it's like, you're showing thirty games. Twenty five of these games are pretty interchangeable, I would say a lot of sequels. Also, the games I didn't play in the first play, you know, they didn't really like some of it. They didn't introduce that well uh yeah, it was it was a different time in games at that point. It was just kind of hard to like part. You know,
they shout off. I think that like at least three or four city building games all on like a kind of a row. Yes, that seemed I was like, what what, Like I kind of got lost when I remember. I remember one was like the Fallout one where you're building city like you're building a city like in the post apocalypse or whatever. And then when it was like that weird Dinosaur Lord one which played it straight for the halfway and
then like oh no, yeah that one I liked though. That was kind of cool the way that they kind of played that up, where oh, okay, this is gonna be a strategy defense game whatever, and then oh he because of freaking dinosaur and it's all right, yeah, but that Mountain one Born and ship I thought, uh, there were at least like two or three kind of cutesy looking ones that you know, did nothing for me personally, and it's like, wow, okay, yeah, I mean you
kind of hit the It kind of hit the This is what's kind of big in Indie at the moment, you know, the survival yeah kind of game at the moment. Yeah, that too, right, because a lot of this stuff is a lot of this stuff is really steam only, like coming. There are some some of the stuff, but yeah, most of it was like yep. Probably the biggest one is Slay the Spire to you getting announced, which yes, definitely still there for that. I love to Slay
the Spire one one of my favorite games of the year came out. Still been still playing here and there. The fact that we're getting a second one, yes, very very excited, not coming until next year. I don't care take your time with it. I just wanted to be great. We got an interesting that we're getting a Never Alone two sequel. Uh. I was kind of a surprise that Okay, they have more to say with this
game. I was more surprised, honestly. I mean it's been in development by for a while, but we're getting another uh Prince of Persian game. Yeah, the rguelike, which I personally think it looks a lot worse than the one that came out just a few months ago. I mean it's it's made by an indie. I think we should uh you know, I kind of understand that. But it's not like THEYLE. I think it's different. It's you know, it looks like it's supposed to kind of look like Dead
Cells. It's made by a little some folks from that team. So yeah, but Dead Cell looks a lot better. Like I got. I thought it looks looks really just kind of not defined well or look like like an Alpha almost or like never, like we don't know how far how far in development these some of these games are that things seemed a little more further along some of the some of this stuff like it's coming out this year. Yeah
it doesn't have backgrounds or like you know, like what happened. Yeah, I mean I still was interested in it, and the one thing that kind of interested me the most. I mean I think I've seen before. Is that mouse scam? Yeah, the one based on the Mickey Mouse. It's kind of has like a look, yeah, that one's always intriguing me every
time I see it. I agree, But yeah, I know there's some There was some some good ones, Like they showed more hyper Light Breaker, which I'm excited for that too, even though you know I got the layed. I'm excited for a few other ones. I think they well, the most part, they did a good job of like breaking up some of the more known stuff and kind of blending it in between and not just showing you a bunch of the big stuff at the beginning and then just oh, here's
a bunch of stuff you probably don't care about. But I do agree, Like showing me three city builders or survival games all after another is kind of like this is all kind of meshing together. So yeah, even it's like, yeah, I love how they had in the middle, they're like, oh, we promised, it's only like a couple more Roguelikes or whatever. Another one that I've I've actually been excited about, and I was wondering what the heck was going on with it was a flint locked The Siege of Dawn
Uh, that one looked kind of interesting. It looks knockoffs. No, flint Lock is the one that looks like it's based on an Egyptian Okay, uh like Sirius. It had the guy composing on the piano. Oh yeah, yeah, he shows him like saying I want to have bosses that are different in the record. Yeah. I probably should have wrote some of the games down that interested me, but it was. I thought it was overwhelming extent, especially like once after the city building games and the roguelike stuff,
like, yeah, I can't keep tracking this anymore. Yeah, I like nobody's complaining about Sheia not going to Xbox. It is going to switch And that was a good game from last year as well. But yeah, and more Brick of Rain two stuff, you know, more Vamp Vampire Survivors getting Simon Belmont. That was OK. The other one was a lot more funny. Well what is it, uh, the Contra game, the Contra, Yeah, the Contra with Vampire Survivors. Yeah, getting the Cansylvania stuff.
I'm sorry, I got to confuse getting Castlevania and the Vampire Star is getting Contra and I was like, wait, and then it's coming soon too, Like may. But who's gonna get g d R Kamy franchise, right, Yeah, I mean I'll give Konami credit. Man, at least they're using their I P for stuff. Yeah, too bad. They're not doing anything with it or anything good with it. That's the problem. I mean, my problem with that Contra game was that it was expensive. Not necessarily that
you know that game. Yeah, My problem with Contra is there is still using like a thirty year old framework, like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's an issue. But all right, I think we kind of covered it. I'm sure you can let us know if you have any favorites there in the comments or whatnot. But those are are kind of like the big things, aside from one more that we don't really know what's going on because Eya kind of put the kobash on it really fast. So it's all
like insider talk of did this really happen? Did it not? A story came out Jeff Grub talking on a Giant Bomb cast that they were working at at some point in planning stages or was it ever going to come to light? We don't know. But dead Space to remake or a new Dead Space game was in the planning stages, somebody was thinking about it, if somebody was talking about it, and they killed it basically because Dead Space one didn't sell well enough. It sold two million copies, but it wasn't good enough
for EA and they decided to go in a different direction. So yeah, and now they've moved some of that studio over to doing Battlefield, which probably makes Eeple more upset because we know where Battlefield has been for so many years. Uh, it kind of sucks that deaes phase two. Is a lot of people love Dead Space two more than the first one, and then that's the one that's not getting the remake right, and it just yeah, man, I don't know. I feel like we can't compare what Resident Evil games
do to other horror games, like Thata's place as a franchise. We know what it is, but it's you can't compare it to some of these other ones. It's not along right now in French. I mean, it's not like a huge It didn't start the genre. Let's say no, it didn't. And then also it's like all the games came out and one console generation and then they were they didn't do anything with them for another whole consert generation, so people forgot about them, right, and you're you're going based up,
whereas like Resident Eval has been kept up with through the times. And then when you're doing a remake of those, people are excited. And then also the remakes were done very well right, well except for the maybe three you know, debate that or whatever, but for the most part they've all
been beloved. And then Death Space remake was done really well too. It's just it also came out in a time where there was stuff that came out like right after it that kind of made it to where you're not gonna it's not like Dead Space one remake came out and had a bunch of time to breathe. Yeah, I think it came out right after that other game there, the sci fi Boxing one or the horror game. Yeah, that bomb horribly well that killed the CARLISTO protocol. Yeah, that's that's what I meant.
Yeah, it was like weird confusion in the marketplacement extent because it's kind of looks similar, but it was one of those like January you know, late January releases. Yeah, and it's also like when you're when you're looking at just everything that's going to come out in a year and you know that it's Eya and that thing is going to go on a sale at some but
it didn't. Yeah, it's still like kind of expensive. Or well there was that period where it was like by By Mistake went on sale for like seven bucks or whatever to right, but yeah, it's like forty it's forty three bucks right now. Uh yeah, maybe it hits like thirty. I might consider it. We'll see. I know it's a shame, but I like you said, or you know, I don't think Dead Space has like the name Cachet, like the franchise Cachet, and it's like the last Dead
Spase three. Let the sour caase a lot of people's mouth. Yeah, I mean I think people also looked at it and probably said, Okay, if there's a horror game i'm buying, I'm gonna buy Resnu before remake. I'll just buy that later. Yeah right, Yeah. I think horror games also like one or two are gonna be popular, but most of them it's kind of you know, come and go or yeah, I mean, you you had stuff come out around then, you have Hardworts. Legacy was gonna
come out pretty soon at that point too. People were probably saving up money for that, regardless of what the the talk was online at the time. A high five Rush had taken a lot of the did the Zeitgeist because of its shadow dropping and it came out like a couple of days before that. Then you had the negative for spoken stuff too, So it's like, I don't know. I think it's a mixture of a lot of things. And Ea, I wish YEA wouldn't have just said, Okay, well this didn't
do well, we're just not going to do it. It sucks. It sucks to see what they could have done with a new one of those or whatever. Yeah, yeah, believe me, I think people have been more excited for Dead Space two or like maybe a dead Space four then yeah, another battlefield game exactly. It's different. I know we're getting a lot of horror games, but there's a lot of horror Like look at a Loan in the Dark. It came out, no one cares. It wasn't good.
When you have a good one of those people talk about it, you know it wasn't. It wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be, but yeah, I was still middling. Yeah, it was kind of like, Okay, it's there, right, and and like you have to be when you have so many good options to great options of horror games.
Now you can't just be like, oh, we're going to be a good one of those, you know, and deaes Space two was exceptional, Death Space remake was exceptional, and unfortunately Resident before came out, and eight as Long because it is although exceptional, and you know, it happens, right and then again like you lose out to the high selling game of the entire year in Harvard's legacy, I mean, you can't really do much about that
either. So yeah, I think it's just EA is But I get if we're not the ones paying for the game, we're not the ones doing the production for the game, so it is their decision at the end of the day. But it just sucks. It sucks to see. Speaking of sucky decisions, EA play is also going to go up in price from I don't know how this is going to affect game Pass. They haven't announced that. If it is going to make game Pass go higher, I doubt it.
There's probably some kind of thing in there where you know, they're still getting something out of that. I don't know. If Microsoft just gives them more money or whatever. But it's going up from four ninety nine US dollars to five ninety nine a month, so just a dollar. And then it's going up for the pro subscription, it's going up two dollars from fourteen seen to sixteen. Yeah, it's the It's actually hasn't changed in price since they brought
it out, so this is not like a recent thing. So this is not that bad really, but you're not really getting anything different than what you were getting. But if you like that stuff and you're a big you play a lot of Ya's games, it's great for like the trials. It's great for that kind of thing. If you're if it's an EA game and you're kind of not sold on it, pick up that trial, man. Yeah, it's that's good for that. Oh wow, I didn't realize what tire
was. We're gonna have to like kind of the en So Microsoft made a deal with Netty's so that the Plazzure games has come back to China, and also Microsoft might have a deal with their own games as well the release there or so get some of Nettie's To get some of Nettie's games, game Pass maybe not sure how that's gonna work, but that's great. We know how much Blizzard makes would make a lot of money from their games being playable in
China. This is probably gonna help that. I think it is one of the things that I think they said they were going to make a big deal about once they got the rights to having Blizzard, and they were able to make good on that. So good for Microsoft in that respect, Yeah, I guess. And this kind of ties into the whole Star Wars Outlaws price
thing and all that too. The Saber Interactive it's former Embrace or COO but now works at works with Sabers since they split, is saying that he thinks that part of this, with all the layoffs and everything, that we're going to see fewer seventy dollars games. We're gonna see fewer big budget games. We're not going to have them constantly come out like we've had this year and last year we had a lot of them. They're going to start typering off.
We're going to see a lot more double a uh, and the indies be kind of the standard. Uh. Do you think that we need to be getting be getting prepared for that? Like the Sony will still be doing their thing. You still get your you know, Fall Fanta seven, Part three and that kind of thing. I don't think so, at least not
when it comes to you know, embrace for stuff. Yeah, I mean brace for stuff is different obviously, but I think they're saying, like, by and large, you think people are going to lower that quality because they need to cut costs, right because of all the stuff that's happening, Or we're gonna have enough Triple A where it doesn't matter. Like I mean, I think we'll have enough Triple A, you know, like we just need one or two to hit a hit a year. We already got one of
those this year. So yeah, I do think that also, Like when you look at the dead space thing to tie that into, it's just it's the economy, man, Yeah, that's that's gonna dictate more than anything. Uh, these seventy dollars games, these big budget games, these putting out a seventy dollars game and then quickly having to put it down to fifty or forty because people just don't have the money to you might just like I was listening to a podcast today and like, if you really think about it,
even in the US, right, we're not. And this is not even counting other countries where it's even more supposed to buy a game. If you're buying the one seventy dollars game a month, that's well like over one thousand dollars, yeah, or close to that. That's a lot for a lot of people, right, right, So then you try to get them to buy two of those, or a seventy dollars one and a forty dollars one,
they might pick the forty dollars one. Like this is why hell Divers too, not too much of being fun and being something you can do with your friends and you can play constantly, right, which all those things help. It's forty dollars, and people can just say, oh, hey, have you played hell Divers too yet, Oh dude, play with me, you know, or hey, you know, get my girlfriend to play or
whatever. And it's only forty bucks, right, And it's harder to sell somebody on a seventy dollars game when everybody's got to buy the seventy dollars game, you know. And like that's where the call of duty's and all those are gonna and the sports games are gonna reap the profits because they're gonna buy those all the time anyway, and that's not gonna change, you know.
So I do think he's right in a certain extent. We're either gonna see those Triple A games not come out right or you're you're gonna see people just decide, Okay, we're gonna have to start cutting corners that it's not gonna look as great. We might have more games that look like Rise of the ronin and you're gonna have to kind of deal with that, even though you have consoles that can maybe make them look better, especially PC's that make it
look a lot better. But unfortunately, would you rather have the game or just not have the game because it doesn't look like amazingly freaking next gen whatever you think that is. Yeah, so we just have to keep that in perspective. I guess as time goes on, both of us haven't really been playing anything like of note honestly that we need to like dive deep into. Yeah, I'm about more and more about Rival Schools next week. Yeah, I've been playing the Crisis Core remaster. No one. Thing I was going
to bring up is just kind of just happened. As you've been podcasting. But I guess to developer, possibility space just went under. Yeah, I saw that. I saw some tweets while we were talking. Again, another studio will be in No that it's really weird how they went. This went under because the fonders accusing some of some of his own people of leaking to the press about their game. And yeah, because the was it Katak who
had like an interview with one of them or something. Yeah, so we can probably talk about more about next week about how that's false and yeah, whatever nonsense he was trying to. Yeah, yeah, but really quick before we get out of here, just just talk about some games here next Thursday. So I'll talk about it when we do the show next week. It might be one of the big things for next week the last delt for pomp fans sixteen Rising Tide comes out. I'll probably try to see if I can
complete it by it before we get to the doing the episode. So I'm sure many of you are that that are actually happy about Pomps sixteen. I know that's the game to make fun of for a lot of people. I'm not excited for it to be back in the site geist again because I'm sure that's going to be all over the conversation. Also, make sure go check out if you like artsy games, you like stop motion stuff like that, go check out Harold hal of it when it comes out on on the sixteenth.
That's on Game Pass. So yeah, it looks like it's gonna really cool, So definitely go check that out. If you haven't played Grounded yet, go play that on your PS five and all that stuff that's coming out as well, and yeah, we'll talk about more of that stuff next week. Also, No, Rest of the Wicked also coming, so that's what's coming out on that Thursday, and all people are excited about that. Scott's
like, how there the Presco sposual game exactly. They they got the exposure to get mad and also came in, thank you so much for telling us that you enjoyed the podcast. I appreciate that. We'll gotta pick up my kid from school. I hope you all enjoyed the podcast. Go like subscribe all that stuff and we'll see y all later. But hi,