Welcome. It is verdict for Senator Ted Cruz. Ben Ferguson with you as always, Senator, We've got a lot to talk about, including this second IRIS whistleblower coming forward and telling his story at a very shocking place. We're going to tell you about that in a moment. Also, would you have ever imagine that a big presidential campaign would be launched on social media? Ronda Santis said exactly that. We'll talk about how unique that is. And Target they're
going looken, well, they're they're going broke. Target has lost eight to nine billion dollars, they say, in the week following the calls for a boycott over their Gay Pride LGBTQ plus Friendly Kids clothing and propaganda. Senator, let's start with this Iris whistleblower. You and I were talking before the show. It's interesting that he's come forward. It's also very interesting where he did his sit down interview. Let's talk about that.
Well, it's quite stunning.
CBS News put him front and center, interviewed him on camera, and he's making serious allegations. He's making serious allegations that the Biden Department of Justice is slow walking, is blocking the investigation of Hunter Biden. One of the consequences of those allegations is, if that's true, it means Merrick Garland lied under oath. And I got to say, listening to this interview on CBS takes your breath away. Give a listen.
When I took control of this particular investigation, I immediately saw it was way outside the norm of what I've experienced in the past.
Gary Shapley is a supervisory special agent for the IRS.
Where he's worked for fourteen years.
In January twenty twenty, he was assigned to what he calls a high profile investigation. Who's the subject of the investigation?
I can't confirm or deny the subject of this investigation. Why not because you know part of the tax secrecy laws don't allow it.
Shapley can't say it. But CBA News has learned the investigation was the probe of Hunter Biden by the Trump appointed US attorney in Delaware. Senior Biden administration officials have vowed to let it run its course without interference.
It's not restricted in his investigation in any way.
But CBS News has obtained this letter Shapley's lawyers sent to Congress Monday, alleging irregularities in DJ's handling of the investigation. Shapley is seeking legal protections from Congress so he can share specifics of his allegations.
There was multiple steps that were or slow walked at the direction of this Department Justice.
Had you ever encountered that before?
I have not known these deviations from normal process. In each and every time it seemed to always benefit the subject.
Shapley says he decided to blow the whistle after a heated meeting last October with federal prosecutors.
That was my red line meeting that just got to that point where that switch was turned on and I just couldn't silence my conscience anymore.
Senator, He says, he couldn't silence his conscience anymore, and that's why he's been so brave and to come forward. When you hear this whistlebo or speak, what comes to mind for you initially.
Well that these allegations are very serious. That what he is stating is that for the first time in his experience of over a decade, the Department of Justice was actively impeding an investigation, was slow walking it, and that that number one reeks of political cover up, but number two, it's it's directly contrary to what Merrick Garland has said.
And you know, one of the things that Merrick Garland is fond of saying, and that that gets repeated a lot, is that the person doing this investigation is the quote Trump appointed US attorney in Delaware with that that individual is a person named DAVIDI. And it's true he was appointed by Donald Trump. He had previously been the acting US attorney under Barack Obama. And you know, let me point out about how US attorneys are appointed. In order for them to go through, you have to get the
sign off of the senators from that home state. Delaware has two Democrat senators, which means is a practical matter, the Democrat senators in Delaware picked this US attorney. And so the phrase the Trump appointed US attorney suggests that he's a Republican, that he somehow might be out to get the Bidens. There is zero, in fact less than zero evidence that's true. But if what this whistleblower is alleging is accurate, then his investigation was actively slow walking
the investigation of Hunter Biden. And one of the things striking is that means that the Attorney General testified falsely to the Senate Judiciary Committee in response to questions, I asked him directly.
I want people to hear exactly that back and forth. Take a listen to this.
It occrues, Thank you, mister Chairman General Garland. The Department of Justice should enforce the law regardless of politics. I do not believe that has been what is happening in the last two years, among other things, I believe you very much want to indict Donald J. Trump. Toward that end, the Department of Justice has leaked that DOJ is investigating
and intends to indict Hunter Biden. The purpose of those leaks, I believe, was to set the predicate for an indictment of Trump, to say, look how even handed we are. We're indicting A Biden. We're indicting a Trump. Those leaks are not law or enforcing the law. They are politics. Did you know about the leaks about the Hunter Biden investigation.
I don't know about the leak that you're talking about, and I'm not leaks are in violation of our regulations and our requirements.
So the answer is the leaks are consistently on one side of the aisle, advancing one political agenda. As you know, the FBI raided Donald Trump's mar Lago home, and subsequent to that raid, there have been multiple leaks about what was discovered there, including a photograph of documents that were discovered there. Did you know about the leaks?
Rate?
The photograph was a filing in court in response to a motion filed by mister Trump. It was not a leak.
So you're testifying there haven't been leaks about the Trump rate investment.
I'm responding to the point about that.
You know about the leaks that have occurred because the.
Leaks, they are inappropriate. We also don't know where they come from witnesses on the well.
What's interesting is when the shoe was on the other foot. I believe your intention, and I believe it's a political intention to indict President Trump became infinitely harder when classified documents were discovered repeatedly at President Biden's multiple residences. According to the public record, those were first discovered on November two,
six days before the prior election. Department of Justice was notified on November fourth, and yet miraculously, there was no leak about the classified documents at President Biden's home when it politically benefited The effort to go after and charge Donald Trump. DOJ leaked when it potentially harmed the Democrat president. DOJ did not leaked. Does that strike you as at all a double standard?
Weeks under all circumstances are inappropriate, and they were not directed by anyone in the justice.
Let me say, in particular on Hunter Biden, I very much hope that an investigation of Hunter Biden is focused not just on his own personal substance of abuse issues, but on connections to his father and potential corruption. That is the matter of public concern and why people are concerned. It was striking that the leak that came out from DJ suggested this is just going after some poor, poor person struggling with drugs instead of looking at the very
real evidence of corruption. Will you commit that the investigation will actually examine the public corruption aspect and not simply scapegoat Hunter Biden as an individual.
I can't comment about the investigation other than to say that all the matters involving mister hunter Biden are in a purview of the US Attorney in Delaware. It's not restricted in his investigation in any way.
Well, you don't comment here, but then you leak at the same time Senator.
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Well, if what the whistleblower is saying is accurate, then Merrick Garland, in all likelihood gave false testimony to Congress. Now, whether it's a lie depends on two things. Number One, his knowledge at the time. It is possible that he believed what he was saying was true even though it was false. There should be an investigation. If he knowingly gave false testimony, that's a lie. That is also a felony.
Because his testimony began with his raising his right hand and taking an oath to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Merrick Garland knows that, and so the whistleblower's testimony strongly suggests that the Attorney General's testimony was false. And I believe there should be a serious investigation into whether it was knowingly false.
There's going to be a lot of people that are gonna ask this question, when is there going to be some accountability, Because when these whistleblowers come forward and they tell their stories and we see what was really going on behind closed doors, there are so many people that are just so angry, Senator that I talked to you talk to every day when you are in and around Texas and around the country in Washington, DC, who are saying they're sick and tired of watching these people get
away with this is Do you feel like the momentumouslowly starting to change where there will be real and honest accountability.
Well, I think there will be accountability in the House of Representatives. You have investigations both from Jim Jordan and Representative Comer that are looking directly at these issues. I think you will continue to see hearings in the House of Representatives that are putting evidence before the American people. There is more and more indication that the House may hold Chris Ray, the Director of the FBI, and contempt for refusing to respond to subpoenas issued by Congress, and
if the Attorney General. I expect the House of Representatives to cross examine the Attorney General on whether he lied and whether he knowingly lied in the Senate. I don't expect the Senate Judiciary to do anything about it. I think Dick Durbin and the Democrats they do not care. They are happy for the Attorney General to cover up the investigation of Hunter Biden. They want the Attorney General to cover up the investigation of Hunter Biden.
They want the.
Department of Justice to be the political arm of the White House. They want this DOJ to be utterly corrupt. And look, that's a strong allegation. But if they didn't, Dick Durbin could hold a hearing tomorrow. If they didn't, Dick Durbin could subpoena the Attorney General tomorrow. If they didn't, just one of the Democrats, just one of the Democrats could muster up the mustard seeds of courage to ask
the Attorney General about it. But if you look at the hearings, the Democrats all get in and play patty cake with him, that they praise him, if anything, that they urge him. Why can't you be more vigorous going after our enemies why can't you be more vigorous going after every little old lady who waved an American flag on the mall during Januari. Those are the questions the
Democrats ask. And so if there is a Democrat senator who gives a damn about whether DOJ is obstructing justice and covering up criminal activity from the President of the United States involved in corruption with foreign countries like China and Ukraine and his son, if there's a Democrat who cares, he or she has yet to open his or her mouth about.
It, Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how many more whistle blowers come forward as well, and how so many men and women are becoming so brave now feeling like they have a safe place to go to conservative members of Congress to tell their stories. And this is shocking that CBS did it. So I got to ask you the politics of this senator CBS News doing this interview to me, just screamed, this isn't normal, this is odd. They've not wanted to cover any of the
Hunter Biden scandal. Now all of a sudden, they're not only they covering it, they're breaking news. The coveted whistle blower were you taken aback by that? And is there a chance The reason why they're doing this is because they realize the Republican field is getting more crowded with Rohnda Santis announcing as well, and they're really worried that any of these candidates might be able to beat Joe Biden.
Well, it is fascinating that CBS ran this story, that they focused on it, that they highlighted it.
They have had.
Little to no interest in covering the mounting evidence of corruption in the Biden family. So this is a big break and that decision would have been highlighted by a network executive. That was not done by an individual reporter. It was not done by an individual anchor. That was done by a higher up by the suits at CBS, by someone with authority, the head of the news division, somebody with real authority made the decision greenlight thiss go
with this. That's powerful as to why I don't know, you know, you asked about whether it is the Republican field getting a little bit more crowded with ron De Santis getting in the race. That could be a factor. I have said before, so six months ago, I did not believe Joe Biden was going to be the nominee. I didn't think Joe Biden was going to run because he is so obviously diminished mentally that he's not up to it. And pretty much everyone knows that. Republicans certainly
know that, but the Democrats know that too. What changed in the last six months it is I right now think Biden is quite likely to be the nominee. Why because I think right now most Democrats believe Donald Trump will be the nominee, and Democrats who believe Donald Trump will be the nominee also believe that if Trump is the nominee, that they can nominate Biden and just hide him in the basement for two years and on a
campaign about how much they hate Donald Trump. And they believe that Biden in the basement plus their antipathy for
Donald Trump, produces a victory on general election Day. I do think if if the nominee, if Democrats believe the Republican nominee really is anyone other than Trump, I think the odds skyrocket that Democrats decide they want to dump Joe Biden and find somebody else, because if the nominee is someone other than Trump, it's much harder for them to run a campaign on how much they hate Trump, then they actually have to find a candidate who can
actually leave the basement and say something. And so whether this is CBS network execs starting to starting to have those knocking knees, I don't know, but it is. It is a very interesting development and it will get more interesting if you see more of the corrupt corporate media following suit.
Yeah, that's no doubt about it. I got to ask you about the other story. Ron DeSantis has the announced he's running for president, and yes, that's that's newsworthy. But the way that he did it is something I could have never imagined. You actually worked on a presidential campaign. You've run for president as well, and I've worked on presidential campaigns. I never could have imagined us sitting in a room saying, hey, we should announce on social media.
Is this moving and changing? Just in proof how important social media is. To see a candidate do it the way that Ron DeSantis did it. Could you've ever imagined this ten, fifteen, twenty years ago?
Well, I think it's twin commentary Number one, the rising importance of social media and alternative avenues of communication, and number two a continuing indictment of the corrupt corporate media. It's remarkable that there's there's certainly been no prior cycle where when any presidential candidate would make an announcement like
this on social media and Twitter spaces. I'll tell you going back to twenty eleven, when I first announced my campaign for US Senate, very first time, I made that announcement on a conference call with bloggers, and it was, to my knowledge, the first time anyone had done that, and bloggers were relatively due. And the reason I did that is that there were a lot of folks who were blogging and who were writing things, and I wanted them to write about the campaign. I wanted them to
get excited about the campaign. And so it was at the time trying to take advantage of a cutting edge in the development of media and communication. I think what Desanus did this week is similar to that, but obviously the technology and communication has changed dramatically in the years since then.
Now there's been a ton.
Of coverage on the technical glitches that the Twitter spaces, that there were so many users on it that it was delayed and glitchy and didn't work very well. And look that I am sure Elon Musk has decapitated more than a few people at Twitter because that was not a good moment for Twitter. That that was a high profile moment for Twitter as an avenue for communicating to hundreds of thousands of people simultaneously. But I am quite confident this will not be the last campaign launched in
this format. And it's striking that it wasn't launched on a TV show. It wasn't launched on Fox News, which I think Fox News was less than happy about. It wasn't launched in a big rally. When I launched my campaign in twenty fifteen, I did so at Liberty University in an auditorium with about ten thousand students, and that was that that was a fantastic place to launch it and and energizing to be surrounded by a crowd. Uh, And and that that's how I chose to launch it
years ago. This reflects that that technology is moving, communication is moving. But it also reflects, presumably that a Santus campaign believing they wouldn't get a fair shake from much of the traditional media and so trying to cut out the middleman and go straight to the voters. And I think you'll see a lot of that. It also reminds me in six or in twenty sixteen, Trump's use of
social media was cutting edge. It was he would put out tweets that would drive the news cycle in a way that had never happened before, and it changed how people communicate through his use of Twitter. I'll say, actually, in response, among other things, to the glitches on the announcement, the Trump campaign put out a mock Twitter spaces with featuring the Santus and Mosque, but also featuring people like the Devil and eight Off Hitler. And I got to say,
whoever the writer was, it was funny as hell. So it was clever how they mocked it. And I think you're going to see an awful lot more humor and mockery, probably on both sides. But you're right, this was a milestone in terms of communications and how candidates communicate with the voters.
I also think it also shows us from the Twitter files, Senator, just how important social media is to driving Americans viewpoints and opinions and views. We have seen that in a topic we're going to talk about in a minute with Target. We've seen that that's happened with bud Light. But it also shows you how important the Democrats understood Twitter and Facebook to be when they were meeting with them on the regular, trying to influence the news and what people
were seeing. And then you see somebody like DeSantis use the platform to announce the president to run. It's like, yeah, it's because we're we all know how important this medium is. And the Democrats are cooking the books for years against conservatives, silencing and censoring conservatives, and they want us to act like it wasn't a big deal when clearly it was.
Well, that's right.
And let me say there's also an avenue of social media, which is that it drives traditional media. I cannot tell you how many times if there's a topic that I want to engage on, I'll pull out my phone and send a tweet, and within minutes you can see people
reporters who follow Twitter. If the tweet is on a topic of a public concern and something they care about, you can see stories written I've typed out tweets and within ten minutes seeing them on the TV on Fox News the tweet that I just typed on my phone. That there's a speed of it that in many ways, engaging in social media is an instantaneous press release two millions of people, including every reporter on planet Earth, and so that it's a different relationship than it used to be.
And as I said, it was Trump who pioneered that. But I've been on Air Force One with Trump where we were talking about a topic and he said, all right, let's send a tweet on that, and he in that instance, dictated it to his social media guy, Dan Scavino. Dan sent the tweet out from Air Force One. And I've been in the President's office on Air Force One with Fox News on the TV and boom as tweet pops up on the TV again five ten minutes after he
decided to send that tweet. And so there's an instantaneous communication piece to it that is very, very.
Potent, no doubt about it. I want to talk about one of the places where social media is driving change and reform that deals with bud Light and now Target losing nine billion dollars in the week following the calls for boycotts over what they've been doing, going after kids and their gay pride to and some of the just horrific things that they're selling online and their designers are designing the clothes it is a Satanist who is designing it,
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friendly swimsuits and other gender related products. Just like Budweiser. They're learning very quickly that parents and normal adults are going to not just sit back and take it anymore. They're not going to allow their children to be manipulated. Conservatives, and I say this with hope, now are finally waking up and realizing how powerful we are as a group when we stand together as patriots and say no more.
You don't have to say, it's amazing how many big companies don't understand their customers and don't respect their customers, because if you respect your customers, you don't insult them. If you respect your customers, you focus on what your customers want, and you don't try to impose your political ideology or your extreme views on your customers. It's the phrase the customer is always right used to mean something. We see this throughout corporate America, where ad agencies are
hard left, h our departments are hard left. That the C suite is scared to death of the shareholder activist, is scared to death of the twenty four year old children that they've hired out of woke universities who are demanding that they virtue signal. And it used to be the case that that that the CEOs believed, well, if I give in to the mob, it'll appease the mob, and I can go do what I want. And I got to say that that there's a constellation now of
three events and in fairly quick order. Uh, there's Disney and and and when Disney came out vocally against Florida's law prohibiting the teaching of sexually explicit information to children. The backlash was significant when when the legislature acted to strip Disney's special tax subsidy and exemption from the ordinary rules in Florida law. That was one of the very first big consequences to a company going woke then, and you had bud Light and bud Light likewise not understanding
or respecting its customers. And the reaction was was swift from the customers who could who found that they could switch to another beer and another light beer really quite easily and quite costlessly. And and that cost has been significant for Anheuser Busch and now thirdly Target and Target nine billion dollars in just a few days. That's a
lot of money. That's a lot of money anyway you look at it, and and it's you know, Target is trying to wrap themselves in oh, we're just you know, defending pride, and and you know people are LGBT that that they shop too, and that's true, they do. But but Target was not simply selling to all their customers straight or gay. It was rather aggressively directing this propaganda kids at little kids, at three year olds, at time, toddlers, at babies. And I got to say that is extreme.
It is only well, it's actually, as we pointed out in the lot last podcast, they literally hired a self identified Satanist to design the display, and and they're selling clothing with explicit appeals to the devil, Like I'm sorry, what imbecile at Targets said, you know what, our customers really want more Satanic worship, and maybe Satanic worship combined with convincing two year olds that they really should have sex and be gay like what and be transgender and
be two like? How exactly does that pitch go? And is there anyone in the room that says, well, gosh, maybe some of our customers just want them us to leave their kids alone. I do think there is the cumulative effect of Disney and then bud Light and then Target. It's much greater than additive because I think it is a deterrent to the next company thinking about doing this. You know, we already have information for within Target. They're saying, we don't want to be bud Light, we don't want
to be bud Light. Well you know what the next company is going to say, we don't want to be bud Lighter Target, we don't want to be bud later Target. That starts to get really powerful.
You know, there's something else about this too that's really shocking to me. Target seems to understand that they don't want to be don't want to become bud Light. But at the same time, their internal memos that have been leaked show that they're not backing down from selling these goods. They're just redesigning how they're showcasing them within their stores, and specifically, it says within southern stores in Southern states.
In other words, when when you walked into the Target that was right by my house, it's it was the first thing you saw when you want in this massive pride with the target set on Target Pride, that the section was very clearly there. Now they're moving that section away from the front of the store, but the goods
that they were selling are still in the store. And they even said in their own internal email, says, to the teams who have been working so hard on our plans for Pride and now are showing incredible agility as we adjust. Thank you. Your efforts will ensure we can
still show up and celebrate Pride in meaningful ways. They also went on to say that the lgbt Q IA plus community One of the hardest parts in all of this was trying to contemplate how the adjustments we're making that we're making to alleviate these threats quote to our team's physical and psychological safety would impact you in your well being in psychological safety. We stand with you, they say, now and basically forever. This is the part that I
think is shocking about Target not learning. They're basically saying that if you are against them doing this to kids, that somehow you're attacking them and their workers psychologically and their well being. In other words, well, it's these mother's fault. It's these women who are not shopping your's fault that we're having to do this. And we still stand by you. We're still selling everything Centator, but we're going to move it around and place it in different areas, and don't worry,
We're still going to accomplish our agenda here. We're not going to say we got it wrong.
Well, and you notice Target is engaging in the same sleight of hand that left wing activists and the corrupt corporate media did in the fight over the law in Florida concerning teaching kids about sexuality. Remember they branded that law don't say gay, and this is all about gay rights. This is all about just efforts to suppress.
The LGBT community.
The law in Florida, as you and I have talked about at length, which they wrongly call the don't say gay law, I view as the don't say sex law, don't don't talk about gay sex, don't talk about straight sex with five year olds, leave five year olds alone. The law applied in Florida to pre KK one, two and three fourth grade. Florida law allowed you, katie, bar the door, get into anything you wanted in this instance. Notice,
Target's entire defense is all just generically about LGBT. It's not about the fact that they are targeting infants, literally onesies for infants, and not only that, they're selling clothing for young girls to strap their breasts down to hide their breasts, and they're selling bathing suits for three year old boys to tuck their genitalia in and hide it
like that is. Look, that's extreme on any measure, targeting children, and what Target is trying to do, ironically, is cover that up entirely by making it broader and more generic and ignoring the truly grotesque part about what they're doing.
Yeah, I want to ask you another question about this politically, and that is the bud like controversy was predominantly we now know from the data that's been shared, is men saying I'm not buying bud Light. The nine billion that disappeared from Target in a week is we know now from the data is clearly women. What does this say about not just moms really now getting involved in standing up? And also what does this mean going into this next
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wanted to go to Disneyland. I've had this grand debate with many of my family and friends, and butt light happened, and that was predominatly men standing up saying, uh uh, I'm not doing this. Target is women's and I'm so happy to see mothers that are being inspired. And I think part of this was from the lockdowns and seeing what was happening their kids' schools. But this is amazing to witness mothers, and I think this is going to play out with a lot more women running for office
as conservatives. We've seen some of that already happen at school board rates around the country, but this was an inspired week for me to watch so many mothers take nine billion dollars out of the pockets of target.
Well, we are seeing and we have seen the power of women and moms when they get really engaged and they get really angry. As you noted, we're seeing it in school board races all over the country when they see what's being taught to their kids and their outrage at the garbage being taught to their kids, and they're flipping school board races nationwide. There are a bunch of races in Texas. I've gotten actively involved in where we flip
them from left wing boards to moms taking their schools back. Look, we saw it powerfully in Virginia and Louden County, where moms in Virginia were angry at the arrogance of the schools, at the left wing propaganda, at the critical race theory, at covering up sexual assaults of little girls in the girl's bathroom in Louden County in that instance by a boyd in wearing a skirt, and those moms, and many of those moms had voted for Joe Biden just the
previous election, but they flipped over and elected Glenn Youngkin. That is a very powerful thing. I think it also matters in terms of Boycott's. Historically, Conservatives have typically been not very good at Boycott's. Part of the problem is that that for some things, it's it's hard to substitute. Disney's an example where you can be annoyed at Disney but but if your kids really want to go to Disney World, that can be hard to say no to.
They're not a lot of alternatives.
There's six Flags, but but disney World is a pretty unique offering, and for that matter, Disney's movies. I mean look, there's only one snow Whiter or Cinderella or you know toy story from Pixar. I mean, they're, they're, they're. That is a difficult product for many people to give up permanently. I think the same thing is true about pro sports. I think lots of sports fans are unhappy with the
NFL or the NBA and all of the woken. But at the same time, people and I put myself in this camp, really love going to sports events, ensuring on their teams, and so it's a painful boycott. What really came to bite bud Light is that wasn't a hard boycott. It's difficult for nobody on planet Earth if you were going to order a bud Light to say, uh, of course, like like, that's a very simple substitution. I'm not sure many people could could go through a blind taste test
and tell the difference. And so it's it's an easy substitution.
Target.
We'll see how prolonged and easy a substitution it is. There's Walmart, you know, there are alternatives. I will say targets are located in a lot of areas and very convenient for a lot of shoppers. So we'll see if this becomes a persistent consequence or not, but whether it is sustained. The fact that it was so concentrated and intense has I think certainly made a real impression on the target executives, I hope, but also on the next executives.
And you and I have talked about before. If we want to stop corporate America from going woke, we've got to change the cost benefit analysis so that when the next executives are thinking about it, the downside of the ledger is bigger and more problematic. And I do think the last couple of weeks have dramatically increased the downside,
not just for these companies but for every other. And that's a good thing for those of us that would like companies just to get back to sell in their damn products and keep their idiotic politics out of our lives.
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