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TRUMP INDICTMENT: Everything You Need to Know about the Biden DOJ's Latest Corrupt Attack

Jun 09, 202342 minEp. 241
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Speaker 1

Welcome. It is verdict to with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. Donald Trump. He announced it. I've been indicted apparently. It's a seven count indictment that has rocked the media world, and really it is shocked to the country center your reaction to this at former president being indicted for a second time now by the special counsel Jack Smith.

Speaker 2

Well, Ben, you and I are talking. It is twelve oh one am Friday morning. I was on an airplane when this indictment happened. I was flying back to the great state of Texas. So I'm in Texas now. And when I landed, I discovered what had been heavily leaked, had been heavily foreshadowed that Donald Trump was going.

Speaker 3

To be indicted today.

Speaker 2

I have to say today is a very sad day in American history. It is a shameful day in American history. It is a disgraceful day in American history. Look, our constitution is bablish as a system of justice. Where number one, we have had for forty six presidents consistently a peaceful transfer of power, with each president leaving office on January twentieth, At least in the modern times, and each new president

coming in on January twentieth. We have never in over two centuries of our nation's history had a new president who launched the entire Department of Justice, the entire machinery of Justice, on a vendetta to persecute, to attack, to investigate, to indict, to try to throw in jail the former president, who, it should be noted, is also currently the leading contender on the Republican side to run against the current president. That has never happened at any point, no matter how

bad the vitriol is gotten. Nobody has tried to do that. And part of the reason nobody has tried to do that is for the vast majority of the history of our country, no Department of Justice would go along with it. No attorney general would countenance being turned into a political weapon to attack your political opponent. The result of today, Merrick Garland is going to go down in disgrace as the most partisan and political attorney general in our nation's history.

And Joe Biden and the Biden White House has decided to hell with democracy. By the way, today is an assault on democracy. You know, one of the things about the left, the language they use. They inevitably accuse their opponents of doing what they are doing. So right now, democrats piously frame themselves as defenders of democracy. Today is a slap in the face of democracy, because what today the Biden administration is saying is to hell with you, voters.

We're worried that the voters might decide they want to re elect Donald Trump, and so we're not going to let the voters do that. We're going to bring a prosecution. And let me be clear, Look, we don't know the details of the prosecution. This indictment is still sealed, but the Biden DOJ is nothing if not political, so they leak like crazy. So we have pretty good intel on what the claims are. Now, I will say this this podcast has said for a long time, over and over again.

I've been telling Verdict listeners, Merrick Garland wants to indict Donald Trump. He intends to indict Donald Trump. Came into office with the plan to indict Donald Trump. I'm going to point out those predictions.

Speaker 3

We're all entirely right.

Speaker 2

I also predicted on this podcast as we discussed that, I said, look, the indictment is not just going to be for possession of classified documents. After you're out of office. That I believe had been the plan. That I believe had been what Garland wanted to do, But then he

ran into an enormous political complication. It's not as much a legal complication as it is a political complication, which is that Joe Biden was discovered having done the same thing over and over and over again, that he had classified documents it seems in every house he owns, and he owns houses all over the place, including most laughably classified documents just sitting in a box at his garage

next to his corvette. Suddenly Merrit Garland had a problem, which is if he indicts Trump just on the possession of classified documents after he's out of office, well, Joe Biden has done the same thing. And so what we predicted on this podcast is that Garland would indict Trump for obstruction of justice instead that he would indict Trump for lying.

Speaker 3

About the documents.

Speaker 2

That because Garland wouldn't indict Biden over it, he was not saying was a crime. Well, it turned out that prediction was mostly right, but not entirely right. So what it appears to be the case is the DOJ's indicting Trump for everything.

Speaker 3

They just threw the kitchen sink at him.

Speaker 2

So they're indicting him for apparently eighteen USC. Section seven ninety three E, which is obstructing an official proceeding, eighteen USC. Section fifteen twelve C, which is conspiracy to obstruct justice eighteen USC. Section fifteen nineteen, and also making a materrely false statement pursuing to eighteen USC. Section one thousand and one. And so they're throwing all of this. They're doing obstruction of justice, but they are also focusing on the confidential

documents that are doing both. This indictment is garbage. This is a political attack. It is a political attack from a thoroughly corrupted and weaponized Department of Justice, and it's a sad day for America.

Speaker 1

I got to ask you about the timing of this, and this is one of the questions that so many people are asking, and I want to get your take. Center the very same day that the FBI agreed to allow members of the Oversight Committee to review the documents that are allegedly tying Joe Biden to a five million dollar bribery scheme with a foreign national, President Trump is informed that he's going to be indicted by the Biden Department of Justice. I don't believe that's by accident.

Speaker 3

Do you no?

Speaker 2

And let me say the hypocrisy is massive. I'm sure you've seen what Biden said when asked about that, and and actually let's let let's play it right now, because I want to point out what Biden's response was when he was asked about the evidence that he was personally implicated in a five million dollar bribery scheme. I'm supposed to walk off the stage.

Speaker 1

Wait wait, wait, wait, wait wait.

Speaker 2

Wait issue Farmers flew and Nancy May says, there's damning.

Speaker 1

Evidence that the outfile that you sold out the country.

Speaker 2

Give response to the progression Republicans, where's the money to a bunch of momarke.

Speaker 1

It's a bunch of malarkey centater we. By the way, I can't believe he said that. The comms team, I'm sure was freaking out the fact that he even asked that question. Where's the money? We know where the damn money is. We know where it is from the bank accounts, we know where it is from the suspicious activity reports. And now members of Congress have seen where the money went to all the different Biden family accounts and shell companies.

Speaker 2

Well, look, that is exactly right, But I want to step back for a minute. I want to put that exchange which played out today in context with this shameful indictment that came down today. Now, we've gone over two centuries of our nation's history without any president trying to indict his predecessor, without any president trying to indict his potential future opponent. So look, theoretically that ought to be a possibility. Should you possibly prosecute a former president, Yes,

but the threshold should be incredibly high. Any rational person, anyone who respects our democratic system, anyone who respects our constitutions, should recognize that you shouldn't be prosecuting a former president for little tiki tak offenses, for little, little nonsense offenses. That the threshold should be really damn high. So what sort of things? If a president sold nuclear secrets to our enemies, I prosecute that for a president for that.

If a president was Benedict Arnold and conspired with our enemies against us, i'd prosecuted for a president.

Speaker 3

Bennett Arnold wasn't a foreign president, but that's.

Speaker 2

A great historical treason. If a president was receiving bribes from foreign nations. That's the kind of thing you prosecuted for a president for.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 2

What's astonishing is Joe Biden right now is currently facing allegations that he was personally party to a five million dollar bribe from a foreign nation. That's a big damn deal. That's not a small little ticki tac allegation. That's the sort of thing people go to prison for decades for. And his response, the smarmy, smug response, where's the money now, Number one? Where's the money? That's something al Capone said. That's something John Dillinger, the bank robber said, you know,

when they asked him, why do you rob banks? He said, that's where the money is. That's something criminals say, drug dealers say. El Choppa probably said, where's the money? You can't find the money. But as you noted, we actually know quite a bit about where the money went. We know that with respect to the Chinese, that there were millions of dollars that were paid up to twelve different

Biden family members. We know that we're with respect to the Ukrainians, that Barisma, the natural gas company, paid Joe Biden's son Hunter a million dollars a year, year after year after year, eighty three thousand dollars a month. So where's the money. That's one place the money. As we also know that at least in the Chinese deals, that the deals were structured with ten percent for the big guy that would be Joe Biden, that would be the

current president. That's where the money is. And then this five million dollar allegation. We don't know the details of it. Why because the FBI won't make it public. The FBI initially only showed it. Initially they said no one could see it. Then Congress threatened to hold him in contempt. Then the FBI said, we'll show it to James Comer and Jamie Raskin, the chairman and ranking member. Then they said we're not going to show it to everyone else.

Then Congress said we're going to hold you in contempt again. Now where the FBI is, They said, we'll show it to every member of the committee. Now, look, they're four hundred and thirty five members of the House. Unless you're on that committee, you haven't seen those documents. There are a hundred members of the Senate. I haven't seen those documents, to the best of my knowledge. No member of the Senate other than I guess Chuck Grassley may have seen

those documents. So there may be one senator who's seen them. If there's another, I.

Speaker 3

Don't know of it. But where we are right now on the.

Speaker 2

Day, there are allegations, serious allegations of the kind of things for which presidents and former presidents might reasonably be indicted and prosecuted, which is taking five million dollar bribes from four nations. Joe Biden is simultaneously mocking the allegations where's the money, because he knows that the Democrats in

Congress don't want to figure out where it is. He knows that his lackeys at the Department of Justice don't want to figure out where it is, and he knows that the lap dogs in the corporate media don't want to figure out where it is. There are no Woodward and Bernstein's. They don't exist anymore. You go back and

read all the president's men follow the money. If if some reporter out there had a shred of integrity, he would listen to Joe Biden saying where's the money, and he would set his mission to say, I'm going to find that money and let the American people know, and none of them want to.

Speaker 3

They don't care.

Speaker 2

It doesn't matter to them if Joe Biden was receiving bribes from foreign nations. Why, because it's all about power. And on that same day they indict President Trump. And are there any allegations in here that Trump received a bribe from a foreign nation?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 2

Are there any allegations that he committed the kind of offenses that rise the level of gravity that may maybe maybe you'd consider indicting a foreign president. No, this is about hatred. Merrick Garland hates Donald Trump. He blames him because Garland wants to be on the Supreme Court. He feels like he was robbed. And I got to say, Garland spent twenty four years as a federal judge. He

had built a reputation for integrity. And I am hard pressed to think of anyone in public life who has more lit their reputation on fire than Merrick Garland because he is happy to play political attack dog and Joe Biden, the Democrats are all perfectly content to see it.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

Uh.

Speaker 1

There was a headline and I actually went back to look in my Merit Garland file and when there is important stories, sometimes I'll print them and I'll put them in a file. There was a headline back in twenty and eighteen by NPR and it said what happened with Merritt Garland in twenty sixteen and why it matters now? And they went into detail about how much it happened to him in the past two years. Many have forgotten what happened to Garland. In other words, saying like this

man has a right to be angry. This is the man that was nominated to fill the twenty sixteen vacancy in the Supreme Court created by the death of Justice Scaliam, an icon of the conservative movement. You had President Barack Obama that quickly named Garland. He was then sixty three to fill the seat. Garland did not get a vote, And this article written in twenty eighteen. You got to go back to eighteen to see this article from NPR.

They basically justified Merrick Garland being angry at the world and knowing that he had missed his chance to be a Supreme Court justice because of his age since he didn't get that time. You look at that article now, Senator, and it is a very interesting connection to what he seems to be doing now as the Attorney General. Is this is there a very good chances could just be him settling the score, saying you kept this from me, and watch what I can do with the power I have now.

Speaker 2

No, No, this is not just Merrick Garland.

Speaker 3

This is Joe Biden. This is the Democrats. Merrick Garland is not.

Speaker 2

Is this Merrick Garland's corrupt vendetta, personal vendetta? Yes, but he's doing it with the explicit embrace of the Biden White House. That's why Joe Biden put them there. And by the way, Joe Biden publicly called for the Department of Justice to investigate Donald Trump. You know, when he was campaigning for president Joe Biden said, I'm going to

leave DOJ alone. I'm not going to try to influence their decisions, and yet he violated that almost immediately after he got sworn into office, where he called on them to go after Trump is Listen, Garland is angry and he's he's petty, and he keeps it as a personal grudge. Look remember the many times and we played a lot of them on this podcast. When Garland is testified before the Senate and I and others question him the degree of offense, he feels.

Speaker 3

How dare you question me?

Speaker 2

It's this self righteous entitlement that I don't report to anybody, I don't answer to anybody. I am the attorney general.

Speaker 3

To hell with the law.

Speaker 2

He picks which laws to follow, he ignores the laws he doesn't want to follow, and he has this absolute view of on accountability and self righteousness. But it's not just him. It is a mistake to think this is just a rogue attorney general. By the way, if it were a rogue attorney general, Joe Biden could fire him.

Speaker 3

This was obvious. This was coming.

Speaker 2

By the way, if it were also a rogue attorney general and a rogue FBI director. You know what Joe Biden could do, direct the FBI hand over the evidence concerning the allegations that I was involved in bribery. If Biden were innocent, he wouldn't say where's the money, This is malarkey. He'd say, these allegations are false, these allegations are serious, their lies, and I want all the information made public to show that I'm innocent. That's what he

would say. He's not saying that because he knows that his loyal partisan Democrat lackeys of the Department of Justice will cover it up. They will stonewall, they will block it, and at the same time they will go after Donald Trump with everything they have. They were slowed down. They'd hoped to indict him earlier, but then suddenly the unexpected accident of Joe Biden storing classified documents all over the place made that more complicated. But this, at the end

of the day, is a political attack. It is not legal, It is not the rule of law. It is not enforcing justice. It is DOJ acting as the opposition arm of the DNC, attacking their opponent. And I got to say, as someone who reveres our Department of Justice and the role it is played in the history of our nation for ensuring the fair and impartial administration of justice. Today is a shocking and sad day if.

Speaker 1

You're keeping score, Senator, and this is the part that enrages so many people that are listening. You've got Hunter Biden and everything that he's done. Zero indictments, the Big Guy, zero indictments, the Quintons and everything that we now know about the four investigations that were shut down into them, and not only those investigations, but also her classified documents and the email server. The list goes on and on. Zero indictments. You put all these together, and then you

see what they're doing to Donald J. Trump. There's a question that you got to ask, is.

Speaker 2

And by the way, there's one. There's one other I want to mention, Ben Sure, So, who is the most vulnerable Democrat in the US Senate right now in the ballot?

Speaker 1

Who is it?

Speaker 2

Joe Mantioned from West Virginia, unequivocally, clearly, indisputably Joe Manchin, incumbent Democrat. Senator Trump carried West Virginia by thirty nine points Manchin. Most handicappers believe he is likely to lose now mansion right now is facing one of two opponents. He's either facing Jim Justice, who's the incumbent governor. He had been a Democrat, he shifted to Republican he's running, or Alex Mooney. Alex Mooney is a congressman. He's a

strong conservative. I like Alex Mooney a lot. I've endorsed Alex Mooney. I think he's the stronger conservative in the stronger candidate. I hope Alex wins. But what did doj do in the last few days? In the last few days, the Department of Justice announced that it was bringing a civil case again against Jim Justice's son and the companies that he ran, the coal companies that he ran, bringing

the against the multiple cases targeting Jim Justice's son. It was so you literally have DJ saying, who's the opponent of the most vulnerable Democrat senator, Let's go bring a case against their son, within hours of them saying, oh, and let's indict for President Trump, who is also the leading Republican candidate right now for president. Like, it is

a level of absolute shamelessness, I tweeted out. I said, look, in related news, the DNC has closed down it's it's headquarters in Washington, d C. And simply moved into the fifth floor of the DOJ building because they had an empty conference room and they figured they might as well share administrative costs.

Speaker 3

This is I don't.

Speaker 2

Understand an attorney general that that just says, I'm a Democrat. I've got a bunch of prosecutors under my control, and our job is to indict anyone who's a problem for Democrats and to attack Republicans. The degree to which they are lighting on fire the integrity of the Department of

Justice and the FBI is heartbreaking and it's dangerous. And I'll tell you, Ben, there are thousands upon thousands of men and women at DOJ and the FBI that are horrified and angry, and many of them are coming as whistleblowers to Congress right now because they don't like seeing an institution that should be nonpartisan turned into a political attack weapon.

Speaker 1

Will this open the floodgates to more whistleblowers coming forward? Number one and number two, Senator, is the Democratic Party for all intentsive purposes dead? And I say that because I don't believe it exists anymore. I believe they're a communist party, a socialist party. I think that the Democratic Party is dead as we know it. The days of get part and O'Neill and others that could work together for the other country that seems to be long gone.

They don't seem to be caring about what's right for this nation. I believe that they the Democratic Party has died and today is another tombstone for the Democratic movement.

Speaker 3

Well, you know who can answer that.

Speaker 2

Each of the serving Democrats in Congress right now, if there's even a single Democrat in the Senate, if there's even a single Democrat in the House who cares about the rule of law, he or she has a chance to denounce this. I'm going to make a prediction none of them will. To the best of my knowledge, they have in so far. I serve on the Senate Judiciary Committee. That's the place that has jurisdiction over all of these

issues we've seen in the last week. The House is very interested in the credible allegations from an informant who the FBI had relied on previously that Joe Biden, then the Vice President of the United States, now the President of the United States, was involved personally in a five million dollar bribery scheme of the foreign nation. If we had a functioning Senate Judiciary Committee, we'd be holding hearings.

Why is it that James Comer wants to see these documents but Dick Durbin doesn't because every Democrat on the Judiciary Committee they don't care if the president was receiving bribes from a foreign nation. And listen, I get partisan battles. Although this is the point I make Democrats all the time. It's not that hard to stand up to your own party. I stand up to my own party all the time. I battled Mitch McConnell. He and I have beaten each

other bloody and bruised a thousand different times. Democrats put partisan loyalty above everything. And by the way, if you contrast this to Richard Nixon, as you know, I'm not a fan of Richard Nixon. I think he was corrupt. I think he abused power. I think when he resigned in disgrace it was because of incredibly bad conduct. I wrote about that at length in my last book, Justice Corrupted. But what tipped the balances was multiple Republican members of

Congress said enough is enough. We can't defend this anymore. You know what's missing now? Even one Democrat not even willing to say, like Republicans did with Nixon, enough is enough.

Speaker 3

He's got to face accountability.

Speaker 2

But even one Democrat who says, I care, I want to know. What's amazing is there's not a Democrat member of Congress who even wants to know what is the evidence that Joe Biden took bribes? They don't care. And by the way, the mainstream media doesn't care and doesn't want to know what is the evidence Joe Biden took bribes? Instead,

they want to shift to the indictment. You know, as I was heading over to do this podcast, I was talking with a couple of friends of mine in Dallas and we were talking about what the podcast was going to be about tonight, and I said, yeah, I'm getting ready to record it, and it's about, of course, the Trump indictment. And one of them said, well, which Trump indictment? And I left said, what an amazing comment that you have to say, which Trump indictment? You also have to

say when you're concerning impeachments, which Trump impeachments? Trump was impeached twice, both of them failed, both of them were frivolous. Trump has now been indicted twice Alvin Bragg, which we talked about at length, which was an utterly frivolous and garbage prosecution, and now this one. And by the way, this may not be the last one. You've still gotten Fulton County, Georgia. On other potential indictment, we may see

three indictments where this is Democrats gone wild. We will indict and indict and indict the man, not because of evidence of criminal conduct, but because we hate him and because they are angry at the American people that the voters might just might have the temerity to elect him, and their view is to hell with you, voters, to hell with democracy. We're going to do everything we can to burn him down because we hate him that much.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about the timeline for this. Obviously, he's going to go to court in Miami, we're being told President Trump will. But let's talk about the timeline of what happens after that, so people kind of know how long this could linger. Could this be settled or thrown out of court? Is there a chance of that before the election, and or this could this drag on until well after

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now center moving forward? After the President goes to court in Miami, and then and how does this play out? And will this take a long time? Could it move quickly?

Speaker 3

Well?

Speaker 2

The President has been instructed to appear in a federal courthouse in Miami on Tuesday of next week at three pm, So he will go there, presumably to be arraigned. He will plead not guilty, and then the proceedings could take a long time. I think in all likelihood these proceedings will not be over by election day. I think they're certainly not going to be over by the time of the primaries, by the Iowa caucuses, by New Hampshire, by South Carolina, and I think they could easily extend for years.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 2

There's a chance the court throws us out.

Speaker 3

That's possible.

Speaker 2

But when you have this kind of Department of Justice prosecution, with this kind of major resources, the likely outcome is it will drag on for a long, long time and a big part of why DOJ is doing this. I don't think they really think they're going to convict the guy. I don't think Alvin Braggs really thinks that he's going to convict the guy. I think their objective is just to drag him in the mud, to crap all over him, and to attack him. It is an expression of hatred

rather than a prosecution based on the facts. But in terms of timing, it could drag on potentially for years.

Speaker 1

We've seen a lot of people that claim to be conservatives who have been saying, over the last several hours, center, well, this is the reason why we should, you know, move on from Trump as fast as we can. In the primary, he quote now has too much baggage. Your reaction that because my thought is you are innocent until proven guilty and everything. In the past they've accused Donald Trump up and impeached him on not once but twice. None of it was true, and still Dotsier wasn't true, the collusion

wasn't true. The list goes on and on, and when people say, well, it's just too much baggage, that's exactly what the Democrats these communists want, is for people to say, hey, if we can bury a Republican, whether it's in West Virginia, whether it's the presidential race, if we can take out front runners running for governor or Senate in different races by saying they quote have too much baggage, then we win every election.

Speaker 2

Well, I think the voters are going to decide that. But I think here's what Democrats believe. I think I think Democrats believe these indictments help Donald Trump in the primary and hurt him in the general election.

Speaker 3

When Alvin Bragg brought.

Speaker 2

His indictments, you and I did an emergency podcast. We did it within hours of the indictment. We put it out very very quickly, and that night, what I predicted is that would be a ten point bump in the polls.

Speaker 3

That proved exactly right.

Speaker 2

Trump went up ten points. Prior to that, Trump and DeSantis had been relatively close in the But when Alvin Bragg brought.

Speaker 3

That utterly frivolous.

Speaker 2

Garbage indictment, my comment at the time is that may have been the single greatest in kind contribution to the Trump campaign into any political campaign in the history of the Federal Elections Commission. I think Democrats believe that indictment in this indictment will benefit Trump in the primary, but I think Democrats also believe it will hurt Trump in the general election. I think they believe that if they throw so much mud at Trump that it may make

general election voters less likely to vote for him. And look, you got to view this from the perspective of a hardcore partisan Democrat. If you want Joe Biden to get reelected, you can't.

Speaker 3

Run on his record.

Speaker 2

His record is terrible. You can't run on the economy, you can't run an immigration, you can't run a foreign policy, you can't run an Afghanistan, you can't run on crime. Like everything Biden has touched substantively has gone to crap. So your only hope, and I think this is the entire Democrat political strategy, is to hide Joe Biden in the basement. Because you certainly can't have him talk to the American people because he's not up to it. But your hope is to hide him in the basement and

run an entire campaign attacking Donald Trump. And I think Democrats believe the more times they have partisan and biased prosecutors indicting Trump, the more they'll be able to throw.

Speaker 3

Mod at him.

Speaker 2

I'm skeptical that that's going to work, but I think that's what their strategy is.

Speaker 1

I want to ask you one last question about some breaking news it's come out of the Biden bribery allegations. There is one thing here that we now know that has been leaked, and apparently Joe Biden allegedly got paid five million by a Barisma executive as part of the bribery scheme, according to the FBI document. Now, before we get to that, let me tell you about Patriot Mobile.

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board member Barisma pretty much. I think everybody knows that he's also allegedly in on this scheme in this FBI document. But now we know that President Joe Biden was allegedly paid five million by an executive of the Ukrainian natural gas firm Barisma Holdings, where his son Hunter Biden also said on the board. This confidential human source, a highly trusted source told the FBI, apparently during a June twenty

twenty interview. Sources familiar have now said to Fox News the source brief Foxnews on the contents of the FBI generated FD one zero two three form a judging a criminal bribery scheme between then Vice President Joe Biden and a foreign national that involved influence over US policy. What's interesting about this coming out is Vice President Joe Biden clearly was in a position, in his own words, to influence natural gas positions and loans government a dollars going

to Ukraine. This is extremely damning just on the face of it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, if this is true, it is shocking. And this is the first I'm hearing of it, Like as you're reading it to me in the midst of this podcast, I haven't read this article yet. I haven't seen this information. This is breaking literally this moment. But you know, I will say, Joe Biden, by his own description and by Obama's description, was the Obama administration's point person on Ukraine policy.

We know that Joe Biden ex size that authority. There's the famous son of a Bitch Explain exchange which Biden said describing how he went to Ukraine and demanded the firing of the prosecutor who was going after the corrupt oligarch who owned Barisma, and as he put it, he he held a billion dollars of USA hostage, and in Joe Biden's words, son of a bitch, they fired the guy. Well, if it is true that Joe Biden received five million dollars from an executive at Barisma, that's stunning and on

its face, that screams of criminal bribery. That not only screams of bribery. If that is true, that is an undoubtedly impeachable offense, and it is a criminal offense for which Joe Biden should serve a long jail term. No, I don't know if it's true, So I want to be clear. This is a leaked discussion of an allegation from an informant, so it may not be true.

Speaker 3

But holy crap.

Speaker 2

Contrasts this to Trump had some documents like Biden had, like Pence had, like every foreign president had, that was classified and he didn't have.

Speaker 3

Them locked up all that Well, Like.

Speaker 2

In terms of allegations, that's pretty mild stuff. Yeah, this in terms of allegations that you got five million dollars from.

Speaker 1

What Yeah, I was gonna say that this new information and what it says to your point. It says this FT one zero two three form dated June thirty of twenty twenty is the FBI's interview with quote a highly credible confidential source who detailed multiple meetings and conversation that he or she had with a top Borism executive over the course of several years starting in two thousand than in fifteen. The form is used by the FBI agents

to record unverified reporting from confidential human sources. The form is used to document informations told to an FBI agent. There's a lot of conversations apparently here, Senator, that this informant said, Hey, this wasn't just one time. There were multiple detailed meetings and conversations that this informant had with a top Barisma executive over the course of several years. About this bribery with the Biden family.

Speaker 2

Well, let me say this to quote Joe Biden. Where's the money and if it can be proven that Joe Biden received five million dollars from Avarisma executive for making official decisions that benefited Maarisma and Ukraine, Joe Biden should go to jail for a very long time.

Speaker 3

Now.

Speaker 2

I don't know if that's true. But you know what, we had to have this document public. Look, we ought to have this informant testify public. The American people have a right to know is it true? And if it's not, you know who should be most angry about it. Joe Biden. The person if it's false, the person who should most

want this information made public is Biden. And the fact that he's stonewalling and dj is stonewalling, the FBI is stonewalling, that raises a serious inference that they're covering something up.

Speaker 1

Yeah, great point. This is going to be a very interesting tough week obviously for Donald Trump. We're going to be covering it. We'll give you updates on it. Will also make sure that you know about all this news that the media is not covering, especially with its bribery scheme that they are accusing the President being involved in. Now with a Barisma executive is what the reporting is saying.

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