Falling up on the Supreme Courts. A number of Republicans, as you know, and as you've been asked about, to have spoken out about the president's pledge to pick a black woman for the hot sport. How do you respond, specifically to Ted Cruz who overnight solve it offensive and defensive the black woman they really make that WoT. Well, here's what I would say. First, Just over a year ago, the previous president also promised to select a woman for
the Supreme Court. Not only were there no complaints about choosing a nominee from a specific demographic from the same corners, but there was widespread praise of now Justice Barrett on those grounds, with Republican lawmakers widely highlighting that they thought this was positive for women in America. So take Senator Cruz himself. He had no objection to Donald Trump promising he'd nominated a woman in twenty twenty. Repeat, no objection at all. In fact, he praised her on these grounds
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in troubled again. Verdict some weeks ago was I think the first podcast in American history to be referenced at during a White House press briefing. Now I think we're also the second podcast in history to be referenced because of your comments on this show about the Supreme Court nominee. You know, I gotta say, the media and Democrats are
really phenomenal. So we saw our last podcast. We talked a lot about the Supreme Court, and you and I talked about how it is offensive that Biden threw down that the only criterion he would look look for in nominating a replacement for Justice Briars that it had to be a black woman, and the media lost their mind. I mean, there were stories all over the country with
media reporters saying this is terrible. And you know, you look at Jensaki there, she actually engages in the logical sleight of hand, were actually the illogical slight of hand the left does often because she says, well, if you don't support a quota, then you don't like whoever it is. Whatever the characteristic is about the person that they're putting a quota in place. So for example, she says, well, when Trump nominated Amy Coney Barrett, you said she was
a great role model for little girls. Well, of course she is the fact that that you're saying someone's a woman and a mom and an amazing scholar and an amazing judge. Yes, she is a woman. We are aware of that, you know. Do I think Clarence is Thomas's life story growing up as a poor kid an African American and Pinpoint Georgia overcoming poverty is an amazing story. Absolutely, yes. But here's the weird thing. Democrats today, the modern left
in this includes all of the corporate media. They embrace discriminating based on race. They believe in discriminating based on race. So there's a difference between nominating someone who's a woman, or nominating someone who's a black man, or nominating someone who's a black woman, and saying, at the outset in this instance, ninety four percent of Americans are categorically ineligible. It doesn't matter what their qualifications are I Joe Biden
won't consider them. And you know it's it's interesting, Michael, if anyone else tried to do this in your business. Let's say you're running a business. Let's say Daily Wire puts up an ad we're looking for a copy editor. Only black women need apply, or only Native American men need to apply, or only white guys need to apply. It would be obviously illegal, It would be obviously wrong.
And what Biden is doing here, and it's amazing. Look, he could have done the exact same thing, said we're going to look for qualified jurists, for someone with a great record, and nominated someone who happened to be a black woman, and that would have been perhaps have been a wonderful thing. But but you know, one of the tells that shows that Biden actually really doesn't care about
crossing that threshold. Do you know who is one of the very few people on planet Earth to have ever filibustered a black woman nominated to be a federal judge. I think I know the answer. But who that would be? Joseph Biden. So when George W. Bush nominated Janice Rogers Brown, an incredibly qualified jurist, to the DC Circuit, the Federal Court of Appeals. What did Joe Biden do he filibuster not once twice. Not only Joe Biden, Chuck Schumer did it.
Dick Durbin did it. The Democrats all stood together and said, not that black woman, because she actually believes in the in the Constitution. We want a left wing activist. And it's bizarre that that it is become an article of faith among the left, that discriminating based on race, doing it explicitly at the beginning, we are only looking at black women. That's that almost takes on like this, this
religious significance to them. They believe in it. And I got to say, you know, I'm reminded of something Chief Justice Roberts said. He said, it's a sordid business that's diving us up by race and drawing distinctions. Look, when we were putting this podcast together, I was looking for a host. But I didn't say, give me an Italian yalee. I said, let's let's find the host. Look at Italian yale. I would have that would have limited the field somewhat
and we would have landed on you. Nonetheless, it did. It's true. You know, I don't think anyone has ever put out a call for an Italian Yale, they usually they say no, thank you need not apply. But that's true because it was color blind and degree blind casting. I got to do it. And I think your point is really important here, which is Joe Biden could have fulfilled his campaign pledge and just happened to have nominated
a black woman. But what he did was so crass, it was so tactless, and if it were any other industry, it would be illegal to say I'm taking ninety four percent of Americans out of the running here. If you look at public polling, people don't like this. The majority of Americans think that Joe Biden should have considered all of the nominees, even if he ended up with a black woman in the end. So I think the proof of the pudding there is in the tasting. Yet seventy
six percent of Americans disagree with what Biden's doing. And let's take for an example, because SAKI in the media, this is their talking point. They're going to is oo, Trump did this with Amy Coney Barrett. Well, actually no, he didn't. So what they're referring to is that Trump at a rally just a few days before he announced Amy Coney Barrett's a nomination, said he's gonna he's gonna
nominate someone, and she's a woman. Well, yes, he was aware she was a woman, so once he decided who he was going to nominate, he acknowledged that she was a woman. But if you think about how Trump did this, Trump did it in a way There's never been a president who's done it this way. He put out a list, a detailed, specific list of potential Supreme Court nominees while he was still a candidate for president. He had twenty
one names honored initially. Then he supplemented that list. He added ten more names, and in fact, we've talked about on the podcast how the ten more names he added were a condition of my endorsing Trump. He added Mike Lea to that list, and he added Neil Gorsuch to that list. That was the second list, and then he put out a third list, where among others, he stuck me on it. So I think the third list got much much weaker. The quality dropped dramatically, precipitously. But look
Trump's lists, they were racially diverse. They had men, women, they had had folks of all sorts. Of different races, but they were jurists selected because Trump believed they would be faithful to the Constitution. They had jurispredential outlook that would protect the Bill of Rights. And in this instance, Amy Coney Barrett was the third nomination Trump had made, So when Trump nominated Brett Kavanaugh, he had interviewed Amy
Coney Barrett. He had sat down and interview her, so she didn't get that slot, but he knew he liked her. In fact, I talked to Trump at the time and even after Kavanaugh, He's like, she's going to be the next one. She's really good. As far as I know. Joe Biden hasn't interviewed anyone. He doesn't know who any of the potential candidates are. He's just said, if you're not fitting my racial category and gender category, you are ineligible.
So Merritt Garland, no matter how good Merritt Garland might be in his interview with Joe Biden, he's the wrong skin color. And today we had a hearing in the Judiciary Committee. One of Biden's nominees is an Asian American woman who's been nominated to be a federal judge, and she wrote in law school. She was actually in law school with me, a year behind me. I didn't know her in law school, but she was a year behind
me in law school. She wrote this article that is really radical, that is actually blasting Asian Americans who oppose discrimination against Asian Americans. She calls them neo conservative Asian Americans, and she explains that really woke Asian Americans should embrace Harvard and Yale and other elite schools discriminating against Asian Americans. That that's really a sign of being woke. And my opening question, Michael, to her was is racial discrimination wrong? Now?
That ought to be a really simple question to answer. Is racial discrimination wrong? Absolutely? Hell yes. She refused to answer it. She wouldn't answer it. She said, well, the Supreme Court has said blah blah. I said no, no no, no, no no, I'm asking you is it wrong? And by the way, she wouldn't defend her article. She just said, wow, I don't know what I was thinking. I said, I didn't ask you what you were thinking. Do you agree
with what you said? She wouldn't answered. It's much the same thing the far left supports as a matter of principle, discriminating based on race and it's it's weird, it's and it's really Look, it's the same thing that's in critical race theory. Again. They believe race is the defining characteristic and if they can discriminate based on race and it suits their politics, they're all for it. So this is playing out as I think a lot of us expected
it would, which is the left has come out. Joe Biden has come out in favor of explicit racial discrimination, and conservatives have objected to that and said racial discrimination is a bad thing. And then the Democrats have come back and said, well, you're racists. If you oppose racial discrimination, you're racists and you hate black ladies or whatever. Okay, we all knew that was going to happen. That is
the playbook. They can't fire you for you're elected by the people of Texas, so unfortunately for them, you're in your job for the time being. They can fire other people who have said exactly the same thing. And you saw it happen at Georgetown Law School. Elias Shapiro, he is a libertarian lawyer. I believe you're friends with him. I think you know Elias Ilia has been around a long time. He's a very well known lawyer. He came out and made almost the same sort of comment. He said,
this is bad. We shouldn't be choosing people based on race and sex. We should just choose the best available candidate. He has been placed on administrative leave. There are struggle sessions going on in the law school at Georgetown right now. There is a crying session hosted by the dean of the law school. It looks like they're going to fire Ilia at this point. What has happened to American law schools.
Let me just start by saying there should never be a crying session at any university or any law school. It reminds me of a league of their own. There's no crying in baseball, and if you want to be a lawyer, don't be crying. Like, if you disagree with what Elias said, argue against it. Yeah. I know Elio well. He's a very smart lawyer. He's a libertarian, he's been
with Cato forever. He's a scholar, he's well respected. I don't know how Georgetown screwed up and hired him in the first place, because he's not a radical leftist, and I thought they insisted you must be a radical leftist to get hired, but they did. And actually it's it's more ridiculous even than you described. So Ilia was arguing that that Biden should nominate the most qualified left of center judge, and he advocated someone in particularly advocated Sree
Strin of Assen. So Sreesan of Assen is the chief judge of the DC Circuit. I know Sree. Srie and I clerked together on the Fourth Circuit. He's very smart, very talented Supreme Court litigator, was a Supreme Court clerk. Sree is an Indian American Liberal Democrat judge. And Elio argued, well, he'd be a great choice for Biden to nominate. And then Elia had a stupid phrase because he said he shouldn't go with a lesser nominee, and he used the
word lesser. It was a badly phrase tweet, right, And what happened is the left said, well, you're saying all African American women are lesser, and it's like, well, no, he didn't say that. He said he thought that Tree was the most qualified nominee. Therefore every other nominee would be a lesser nominee. But I'm sorry, that's that's logic and reason and and and the woke mob. They're ready to burn you to the ground that they don't want to engage it is. It's it's amazing that that they
want to cancel you. And and look, I think Elia may well be fired for it. They put him on unpaid administrative leave. You know, what does it say that our law schools don't believe in in anything resembling free speech, That you can get fired for your job by arguing for a liberal Democrat to be nominated to the Supreme Court, which is what Ilia did. That the very idea of considering people based on their qualifications is now anathema to the left. It is a vicious I mean, cancel culture
is alive. And well, if they could cancel me, they would. The only reason they can't is that I'm elected by twenty nine million Texans. It and so that they and you think of the interorum effect. It has not only is Ilia potentially losing his job, but every other professor that's terrified to open their mouth, every other person in their job that the mob will come and say fire them. It really is ridiculous. Well, I give the student radicals, I give them a little bit of credit, actually a
credit at least for their honesty. I don't give them credit for sobbing in front of their dean and demanding people's heads on pikes. No, you can't say heads on pike. Remember Steve Bannon a podcast said we want heads on pikes, and they accused him of calling for murder for remember, the nutty people are really nutty, So you can't use that phrase anymore. You're right, only metaphorical pikes and figurative heads. But what the student asked was, listen this guy, Elias Shapiro.
He's a lecturer at Georgetown Law and he's the director of the Center for the Constitution. Seems like an unobjectionable sort of place, but he advocates an originalist position on interpreting the Constitution. And what the student asked was why do we need this, Why do we need this center, Why do we need this perspective? Why do we need originalism to be taught at Georgetown Law? And I thought it was actually a pretty good question, in that the
law school overwhelmingly is leftist. The law school does not teach students generally speak, that originalism is a good or valid interpretive principle. They're trying to churn out leftist, leftist lawyers, and so why do they need it? Why does Georgetown, a left wing law school, need to have these pesky conservatives making all the students cry well, I mean, that's the view of a lot of the left. And I'll give you at least one reason. Let's assume you don't
care about an intellectual diversity. Let's assume you don't care about learning anything other than the orthodoxy and propaganda that you're being spoon fed. Presumably at least some of the students at Georgetown Law want to practice law. They would actually like to be practicing lawyers, and presumably that means they'd like to go in a courtroom and argue to judges that the judges should do what is in their
client's interest. I can tell you they're a heck of a lot of judges and the district courts and the courts of appeals in the US Supreme Court that believe, I think quite rightly, that the text of the Constitution and the text of the Statute is controlling, and that you know that the regional understanding of that text has at a minimum a major interpretive weight. You can disagree on how much weight, and there are disagreements among judges.
But if you got a law school that is graduating lawyers who don't know what originalism is, who don't know how to argue on originalist basis, you're going to graduate crappy lawyers. You're going to graduate lawyers who don't know how to actually litigate in court. And part of the problem is in some of these law schools they're okay with this because you've got a bunch of deans and professors and Ivory towers who don't actually engage in the
practice of law, and it's just all politics for him instead. Well, that is a sort of silver lining. I hope that Eliot can keep his job. But if he can, and if the cancel culture mob really claims all these originalist scalps, at least the next generation of liberal lawyers will not perform very well in front of conservative judges. And Michael, I'll point out also, so the left's game, they say at the outset, we're going to discriminate based on race. In this case, we know Joe Biden is going to
nominate a black woman. We also know from the pattern of Biden's nominees that the odds are overwhelming whoever he nominates will be a radical left wing activist, because most of the judicial nominees Biden's made this past year have been radical left wing activist. But we also know the next step in this game, they're going to say anyone that opposes the radical left wing activist is a racist and sexist who hates black women. That that's their gameplay.
And I mentioned, you know, when Joe Biden and the other Democrats filibuster Janie Rogers Brown, she was a black woman, but of course there they just didn't want a constitutionalist. There's another example. The same time they filibuster Janie Rogers Brown, Joe Biden also filibustered a guy named Miguelistrata. Miguelistrata, it's a Hispanic, an amazing Supreme Court advocate. Supreme Court Clerk
George W. Bush nominated him to the DC Circuit. The Democrats had a real tough problem because Miguel was unquestionably qualified and there was nothing in his record that was disqualifying. And actually one of the Democratic staffers for Ted Kennedy wrote a memo to Ted Kennedy on the Judiciary Committee along with Joe Biden. The Democratic staffer says we must defeat Miguel Estrada, Why because he is Hispanic. I'm quoting there. They say we must defeat him because he is Hispanic.
And it was widely anticipated if Miguel had been confirmed to the DC Circuit that Bush would put him on the Supreme Court, and he would be the first Hispanic ever on the Supreme Court. And so not only our Democrats willing to discriminate based on race when they're favoring someone who meets their ideology, they are even more eager to discriminate on race against someone who disagrees with their ideology. And there was Joe Biden filibustering an Hispanic inly qualified nominee.
Now is it because I think he hates Hispanics? No, he's a leftist who hates anyone who disagrees with his orthodoxy and is willing to divide based on race. And he believes in his heart, like most Democrats, that discriminating based on race, if they think the cause is righteous and just, is a good thing. And I think it is a terrible thing in America to discriminate on race period. Well, I hope Eliot Shapiro can make it through. They're trying
to cancel him. There is an even more prominent person than a libertarian law professor who's got a cancel attempt on him right now. That would be not a conservative, not even really I think a libertarian. That would be a left winger, a guy who supported Bernie Sanders, Joe Rogan, who has been up in backed into a corner. Now he's got some of the most powerful voices of the
nineteen seventies coming after him. We're talking Neil Young, we're talking Joan Mitchell, people who at one time actually were somewhat relevant, and it looks like it looks like he's actually sort of on the ropes. So I gotta say, Michael, just at the outset, who knew you Neil Young was still live? Who knew Joni Mitchell was still a lie?
You know? Graham Natch, Peter Frampton. I mean, we've got every geriatric rocker who was playing when I was in diapers and you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye. That's when these guys had their heyday. And I gotta say, I think it's funny as hell that a bunch of seventy and eighty year old rock and roll stars from prior eras got more pressed this week than they've had in thirty years. And what they're saying is bizarre. They're saying, we really don't like that that many people are listening
to Joe Rogan. And I think maybe they have a plan here, which is nobody wants to listen to their songs. So if they get big tech to ban the things that they're actually listening to, maybe you'll have no more choice but to listen to their songs because they'll be
the only things left. I mean, it really is Assinine, Neil Young and Crosbie Stills and Nash went on a free speech tour in two thousand and six that was named of the Tour, and I think people are beginning to wake up to this fact that maybe they weren't so much in favor of free speech. Maybe they just wanted to smash whatever standards existed of the day and they wanted to just install their own standards. And now Joe Rogan is contradicting that. So they are the defenders
of the entrenched power. But the thing that's crazy to me is, as you say, Neil Young, Joni Mitchell, these people have not been relevant in decades and yet they do seem to be potentially getting Joe Rogan not to back down, but to permit a disclaimer on his controversial episodes to get more left wing guests on. I mean, it does seem that they really are putting a lot of pressure on them. Well, you raise a very good point. I'd say two things in response. One, I hope Rogan
doesn't give in. I mean, look, he's got it's been reported like one hundred million dollar contract with Spotify. One hundred million dollars is a lot of leverage. I mean, I mean, he has shown a lot of courage, a lot of boldness. But but I have to assume Spotify they haven't given in yet, but to the extent I mean Spotify is kind of at the intersection of big tech and Hollywood music. So you've got to assume everyone in that world is arguing surrender, surrender, surrender, give in
to the woke mob. And and I do think it will do real damage to free speech if Rogan knuckles under, because what people will say is, if they could force Rogan to comply, how does anyone else have a chance. But you bring up the hundred million dollars, Senator, Let's say you're Joe Rogan. And look, Joe Rogan seems like a perfectly principled guy. Let's say he weren't. Let's say he's totally unscrupulous and he's looking at that big paycheck. Sure, it would be a big blow to the American free
speech tradition if he backs down. But what about numero uno? What about Joe Rogan? What what incentive does he have not to just give in here? Look, the only incentive his integrity that his viewers listen to him because they believe he's speaking from the heart and he's telling the truth. And I got to say, you know, anytime you sell out for cash and you're intimidated, when you give into the mob, it does lessen your credibility. And I want to give him a lot of props. He has shown
a ton of courage. I also think, you know, he it really got his attention when CNN went after him for Iver Mecton. He has become a fantastic defender of free speech. I think that's really important. And one thing that it's important I think for Rogan to understand everyone else to understand, is when the mob comes after you, it's not even about the topic you were out. So we were talking a minute ago about Biden's Supreme Court nominee. I sent a tweet today somewhat tongue in cheek, which
was simply Candice Owens for Supreme Court. Yeah. But you know, if Biden said it must be a black woman, you and I both know Candice. We like Candice. She is both black and female. According to the left stated criterion, she is an obvious choice. And it's funny like the twitter verse and their media stories written about my tweet, We're like, oh my god, Cruz thinks Candace. As far as I know, I don't think Candice is a lawyer.
She isn't a lawyer. I don't know about it. I am assuming if she has the qualifications to be a Supreme Court justice, I am unaware of those. But and she's a fantastic podcast host and thinker and provocateur illustrating the idiocies of the left. But but what I've enjoyed is since that tweet, watching leftist explain no, no, no, not that black woman. You you can oppose people, and we oppose her because she's conservative. We can hate on her.
We mean only leftist black women. It is. It's all ideology, it's all politics. Racist part of the politics. But anyone on the wrong side they go after. And so Rogan may think, okay, well, if I all right, I've had some some doctors on my show who are skeptical of some of the things they're saying about COVID. Saul have some people on the other side who say, believe whatever Saint Fauci says, and maybe the mob will be satiated. The mob will never be satiated. That is the nature
of the mob. And when when they see they can bow you into submission, they'll come back again and again and again. I think that's the fear. You know, Rogan is speaking two and four a wide variety of Americans. It's not rock ribbed right wing Republicans, probably not very many of them at all. I think it's ordinary people,
maybe some disaffected liberals, maybe some leftists. For goodness sakes, he endorsed Bernie Sanders, so he's got he's got leftists in there too, And he's speaking like the kind of guy who is not ideologically rigid. And I think that's part of why he's been able to amass such a huge audience. And I agree, I think so far, He's played this pretty smart. But this is a big fear. Do not show them your neck, do not give in. You will never I assume I'm not saying anything that
Joe doesn't already understand, But you will not win. The moment that you start to appease them, you're dead. You're going to be dead in the water. I guess figuratively again too. I don't want hateful rhetoric in junior high. If you give in to the bullies, they take your lunch money tomorrow too, and the next day and the next day. That principle was true then, and it's true now. That's right. And you know, Rogan is actually important to
conservative sits on the future. But we've talked a lot on this show about how when I was a kid that the caricature of the GOP was that it was rich uncle pennybag smoking a cigar, shilling for corporations, keeping the working man down, and that that is not the case anymore. You're seeing you're seeing it just in exit polling.
You're seeing it in the lawn signs and people's yards, and you're seeing it in the behavior of Democrats who are now very clearly the party of the global elite, and Republicans have positioned themselves as the party of the
working man. My question is, why is it that Americans, who have such a history of loving freedom and fighting back, why is it that we are currently being outdone by America's hat are polite, lovely neighbors to the north, the Canadians, where Canadian truckers by the thousands are showing up to the nation's capital and protesting these draconian vaccine mandates. What's going on with the Americans? It is absolutely awesome. God
bless the Canadian truckers. And I will say, look, look, I love the we were just talking about Joe Rogan. I love big bald, angry, working class people who were pissed off and fighting back. That that is that is awesome. Yeah, the Canadian truckers, those convoys are spectacular. Watching Justin Crudeau
Trudeau runaway. I had fun tweeting out someone did a mashup of Simpson's videos where there was an old Simpsons episode that had Homer driving a truck and he gets in a convoy and then they cut to Trudeau as Prime Minister of Canada, crawling out the window to run away, and you know, it actually says something that there were a bunch of fact checkers today who fact checked that Simpson's mashup said, it's actually not factually correct that the
Simpsons predicted the Canadian truckers, because these were two different episodes that someone put together. And I'm just like, all right, you guys are nim wits and idiots, and the Canadian truckers look, they're standing up for freedom. And you know, a year ago, we listen to people pontificate online very solemnly the truck drivers are heroes in America. We also listened to them to say doctors and nurses and police officers and firefighters, they're heroes for America. All these people
are being persecuted right now. Right the totalitarian left wants to fire those truck drivers. They want to fire doctors and nurses and cops and firefighters and soldiers and sailors and Navy seals. Why because they won't knuckle under their COVID mandates and vaccine mandates. They won't obey their totalitarian dictates. And I got to say, those Canadian truckers are awesome, and they're fighting for American freedom in a way we all should be doing and we could we could take
a lesson from you. If there is an irony that the left, for over a hundred years said, workers of the world, you night. And now the workers of the world have united, and their leaders like Justin Trudeau, are running as far as they possibly can. There's a Trudeau shaped hole in the wall where where he once was because he doesn't want to face the crowd. So I will say the Canadian truckers when they drove their convoyant
and they protested, they did it very politely. And and and having having been born in Calgary, I will say the Canucks, God bless them, are wonderfully polite. But you know, in this instance they are warriors for freedom and their message is being heard not just throughout Canada, but throughout America across the world hopefully. So this raises an important question.
We're running a little late, and so we're not going to get into a ton of mail bag, but I do want to get into one mail bag question that came up from Eudaemonia. It was this the pseudonym of the good old ancient Greek references here in our mail bag, very educated audience. He asked, what concrete policies are the is the GOP going to put forward to now that
the GOP is positioning itself as the worker's party. So is it simply that the GOP is saying the doors open, You're welcome to come in, but we're not going to change anything about the way that we look at economic issues, social issues. We're not we're not actually going to change the policy. We just want you to vote for us. Or is there going to be some kind of substantive shift in what the goops actually offering. So I think we've seen pretty significant shifts, and I think Trump played
a big part in that. Number One, We're the party of jobs. You want a job, you ought to be a Republican. We're the party of small businesses. We're the party of the energy. Joe Biden. The Democrats hate energy, they hate oil, they hate gas, they hate coal. They're destroying jobs across the country. They're shutting down pipelines, they're they're putting people out of work. Where the party of keeping small businesses open? You look at Biden the Democrats.
They're happy to shut down a restaurant, a bar, They're happy to shut down anyone who won't comply with their mandates. We're the party of opportunity, but Democrats are shutting down rules. We're keeping schools open. We want to give you a school choice. We want to give you opportunity. Immigration is critical to this. Democrats are the party of open borders. When you have millions of people coming illegally into this country, they're driving down wages, They're hurting working men and women.
You want you want to help protect jobs, You stop illegal immigration. And I think every single policy the Democrats embrace. Ask yourself what San Francisco and Manhattan billionaires want, that's what Democrats support, one hundred percent, straight down the board. And ask yourself every policy that Ohio steel workers or
Texas truck drivers support. Those are the policies that Republicans I think ought to be supported, including by the way, protecting free speech and religious liberty in the Second Amendment. Democrats want to take away the guns of working men and women across this country. It is a radically anti worker agenda. And I will say one of the things I think Republicans have gotten better at, but there's still too much of, is corporate chronyism giving into big business.
Look when it comes to big business, big business has gone woke. For too long, Republicans behave that whatever big business wanted they listened to. I think Trump helped break that. I think we have shifted. You know, the giant companies are fine. I don't have anything against them, but they don't need any favors from me. They don't need any favors from government, they don't need any subsidies, they don't
need any mandates to benefit them. We ought to be the party of the little guy, of the small business, owner of the worker, and Democrats are the party of taking away your job. And I think that's playing out in a very very real way now. I do because some of those things the GOP has talked about for a long time, but especially when you're talking about the big corporations, that would be a shift. When I was a kid, the GOP was the party of helping out
every gigantic corporation. They would assist them in shipping jobs overseas and getting sweetheart deals from the government. Corporate welfare, of total corporate welfare. And that is a big shift. And it does tie into the small businesses too, because if the GOP is going to be the party of the big woke, multinational corporations then sort of by definition
they're not the party of the small businesses. So that shift is very important, as you say, keeping jobs here, and Democrats are the party of corporate welfare today, they embrace it openly. Yeah, that's very important. And as you say to this idea that when you have two million illegal aliens pouring across the border, that's going to depress wages. And it's not going to depress Mark Zuckerberg's wages or I guess Mark Zuckerberg's capital gains. I don't think he
makes most of his money from his salary. It's going to depress wages for working class Americans. And so that that's a big shift. If the Democrats are going to be the party of more and more and more and more immigration, then the Republicans really can offer something different
there as well. That was a good answer. That really all right, That makes me hopeful for the future center even as we're all getting canceled, even as we're going to get radical leftist judges all over the courts, there does seem to be some hope looking ahead to twenty twenty two. In twenty twenty four, well, we've got to leave it there. You know. One thing you can do to really express your enthusiasm, not merely for the upcoming elections,
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