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you and do this with Premiere Networks with iHeart. We're going to be expanding for everyone listening to three days a week, which is going to be so much fun I think for the Verdict audience here and something that's been important to you to be able to get to expand this and reach more people. Well, Ben, that's exactly right.

And the expansion is going to change the format a little bit in that two of the three are going to be audio podcasts, so we're going to do video where the objectives is going to be to continue to do video once a week, but two of us, including obviously this one, are going to be audio only and that's one of the ways we're going to expand the coverage and hopefully connect with a lot more folks that are looking for the inside scoop, looking to understand what

actually is happening and what it means. You know, It's so I think important now for us to be able to go around the media and go directly to the audience, which is I think one of the reasons why your podcast has exploded and why it made sense to expand it to three days a week. And you and I are so much aligned, I think, with our goal and our objective. I started in radio for people that don't know me when I was twelve years old. It was

my mission field. I started in TV on Bill O'Reilly's show on Fox when I was seventeen years old and have been doing TV and radio ever since. And I have my own podcast, my own national syndicated show, and it's you and I have that same mission, which is, I think, to change hearts and minds of a mayor kins with facts and the real story behind some of these the ridiculous headlines and the propaganda of the left.

I jokingly say that, you know, my job is to make liberals go insane with facts and figures each and every day. And I love my job because for me, this is my mission field very much the same way I think you believe God put you on earth to stand up for values, traditional values, for the sanctity of life, for the Constitution, for the Second Amendment, part of the

reason why you obviously went to law school. Well, I will say the only problem with that that that mission there is I think liberals start out insane, and so really the only thing you're doing in the exposing their mental illness. I don't know if you happen to see yesterday on Twitter the video of this this crazy lady who has stolen money from two little kids in their lemonade stand and she's wearing a mask and the father is asking her please give back the money to my children,

and this lady is just berating him. But you are endangering us because these children are selling selling lemonade, and you shouldn't be allowed to sell lemonade, and you need masks. And it was a level of COVID paranoia that was just you watched it, and it was interesting, Ay, she wasn't taking it that this was not she believed this in the core. You know, if they had been injecting a bola into the neighborhood cats, she would not be more worked up, but be she felt an absolute entitlement.

I'm going to take these children lemonade stand money, and at the end of it, she gets the money back because he very calmly demands that she do so. And then she knocks the whole stand over and knocks the lemonade over, and it gets a mental illness at that point when you think, as a busybody that you have the right to control somebody else and if they don't comply with your paranoia that then you can use force to force them to comply. You've done this and seen

this on college campuses. You do a ton of college campus speaking. I do some of as well, And even in the college campus world, we've seen these massive, I think changes with just personalities. Where it used to be you could go in and you could have a grand debate and there would be people that would prepare right look forward to the opportunity to question you or to question me on a certain topic or issue. And now

there is no longer a grand debate. With many on the left, it's just scream at you and tell you a name, call you're big at racist, homophobes, NFO. The list goes on and on and on and on on, and they just go, you know, now we're domestic terrorists. Now we are we are a cult. We're a domestic terrorists organization that is a threat to democracy. We see Democrats running on that, doubling down, and many of these laces we saw in the Senate race in Ohio where

they're doubling down the Democrats. They're saying that they believe that if you support conservatives people like the MAGA movement, that you are a threat to our nation and should be treated like you are a domestic terrorists organization no different than al Qaeda. Well look, President called half the

country fascist or semi fascist. I will say though, that this podcast so far has managed to cut through some of that, and that the campus tour, as we've done, you know, we've seen a number of liberal students come and show up, and they come to the front of the line and they ask their questions, and we've had very little We had at University of Wisconsin Madison, on one leftist kind of run up and screamed fu and then scamper off and I kind of chuckled the courage

of your convictions. But you know, beyond that, we have not had the rudeness of instability. That's a good thing. So but all right, there's a lot of breaking news. But before we do that, I want to drill down a little bit. A lot of the Verdict listeners I assume know who you are, have seen you on TV, have listened to you on radio or your podcast, But there only some of the Verdict listeners who don't know you. You and I go back a decade from when I

first ran First Sented. I think we met back in twenty eleven, and your story is pretty remarkable, and so I just want to take a minute to kind of walk folks through your history. Now. You kind of casually mentioned that that you started on radio when you were twelve, which is a pretty crazy and wild thing. Yeah, Ben, maybe tell the story of like how the heck that happened, because most twelve year olds don't don't get on the radio.

You know, my life took an interesting turn, and I'll talk a little bit about myself so people know kind of what got me to do what I'm doing now. We were hit when I was very young by a drunk driver, and that drunk driver died, and thank goodness, what we lived. I grew up in a family that was law enforcement, that my dad was a police officer. When when actually we were hit by that drunk driver,

he wasn't with us. It was my mom and my sister and I And that gave me, I think, an instant kind of life purpose at a very young age, because I realized how quick life could be taken away, and I paid attention to stuff. I was home when that car accident. I was like five years old. I was five, but it was my first vivid memory because I remember um the impact. I remember my mom. You know, we all had our seat belts on, but we had the lap seat belts. They didn't in the back seat

have yet those shoulder straps. And the whiplash broke my sister's collar bone from the snap back of the impact of the wreck. He hit us going over a hundred and he didn't have a seat belt on. He went through the passenger window of his car as he turned sideways.

At the very last moment, we hit his passenger door and he hit our windshield, and I remember getting out of the car and my mom's head had hit the windshield and there was blood coming down her face, and I just wanted to get to my mom, and I remember running out of the back door and I couldn't I had to walk over his body and I couldn't

get her door open. And a man came along. To this day, I still think it was God's intervention, and he said he grabbed me and took me the back of the car and he said, I've got this, and he got my sister out and he got my mom out, and then they rushed us all to the hospitals and even separate us, and I'm you know, my sister and I went to the children's hospital and she went to the adult the met the trauma center. And that moment was a moment where I think I realized and didn't

take for granted life. And having that moment was a blessing in disguise because it made me, at a very young age, realize how important it was to stand up against right and wrong. My dad laughs to this day that when I was a little kid after that, he was a police officer and we would be in Kroger and I would see somebody senator buying beer and I would tell my dad, like, I need you to Dad, arrest him. Because I was very literal, I didn't understand.

You know, I saw a beer and thought that guy's gonna drink it and they're gonna hit my car and I'm gonna die. And my dad was he had to explain to me, like laws and I can't arrest him for buying beer. It's okay to buy beer. And he talked about consumption. He talked about what the law says and how you can't get behind the wheel if you've been drinking in this blood alcoho level, which back then was a one point zero before they changed it to

zero point eight. And so that had that impact where I was paying attention, I think to more things because I wanted to understand how this country worked and how laws worked. So you fast forward to eleven, twelve years old. I'm sitting in the back of the blue four aerostarred van and that was one ugly van by the way that Ford made, and my mom was listening to talk radio. Now this is before talk radio became more conservative. This is before Hannity or back right. It was Limba just

kind of come onto the scene. But a lot of news talk stations had liberal shows and conservative shows, and there was a liberal host, a city council member in my hometown of Memphis, Tennessee. And in that in my hometown, she was screaming about the school lunch program and the contract with America in nineteen ninety four. And this contract there was part of it was a school lunch program.

And you may remember this, Richard Gephart hold up a bottle of ketchup and he said, is this what conservatives are going to call a vegetable? And she continues to say that Republicans are going to starve kids and it was going to be their only hot meal a day gift. Part mean the cash up or himself? Yeah right exactly, yeah bingo, yeah, exactly exactly. And so I'm in the backseat.

My mom's school teacher, right, and then she's teaching us homeschool, and I said, Mom, there's no way that anyone would do that to children, and she immediately perked up. Right, this is a you know, a school mom's dream. She's like, well, honey, how do you know that. I'm like, mom, I can't think that any adult would take away a child's lunch. And she said, well, why don't you call our congressman and get a copy of the bill and you can read it I'll help you read it and you can

see if you're right. So I did. I called Ed Bryant, who was our congressman at the time. He facts the bill to my dad's facts machine with that old roller facts paper right that falls on the ground. You have

to put it back in order. And I read the bill, and sure enough, she lied to her audience, and I I found out that the Republicans wanted to increase school lunch funding by three point seven percent and Republicans wanted to increase it by like four point three percent, and the Democrats were calling the difference in their two numbers the cut, even though both were clearly increasing school lunch funding. And I called her and we got into this big

debate and I said to her. She was yelling at me, and I said, ma'am, I said, have you read the bill? And she said, well, no one reads the bills. And I said, well I did, and maybe you should before you go on the radio and lie to people. And it just blew up another show. It was. It was one of those moments. It just happened. And I read her the bill on the air and told her why she was wrong, and I was great. At one point does she say, wait a second, are you twelve? Like like,

how does that come out? My voice had not changed yet. It was pretty clear that I would, you know, I had. I had not yet at the full puberty yet, and so it was, you know, the high, little squeaky kid voice. And she was like, how old are you? I mean, she's yelling at me and I'm like twelve years old.

I said, ma'am, I'm twelve. And so this other show that came on the afternoons heard this call and they went on the radio and drive time at like five o'clock and they played the phone call and they said, whoever this kid is, if anyone knows who ben is, please tell them we're talking about and we want to talk to him on the radio. So my mom and dad's home phone starts ringing from friends that are listening.

They're like, they're talking about Benjamin on the radio. And so I called in and they put me on the air and they're like asking me about the bill and reading the bill and just they were kind of enamored with this idea of a young person getting involved. And they're like, have you ever seen a radio studio? And I was like, no, ma'am, no sir. And they were like, well, put your mom on the phone and this is all live on the air. And I hand the phone back to my mom. Now, can you bring your son down

here tomorrow and let him see the studio. My mom's like sure, So I go down there. They're gonna have me as a guest for ten minutes, and the first break we went to. One of the hosts looks at me and she goes, you're dying to talk, aren't you. I said yes, ma'am, and she goes, next time you have something important to say, raise your hands. So I did and I was on for an hour and a half. The phone lines were jammed and they're like, this is weird.

Can you come back tomorrow? I was like, after as my parents, So my parents drive me back down the next day. I'm on for another hour. They had me come back a week later, and then literally they hired me a week after that at four twenty five an hour minimum wage at the time, and I've been doing radio ever since. Fell in love with it because radio, for a younger person, people didn't judge you based on what they saw right your age. It didn't look at

you and think you don't. You can't have an opinion because you could hide behind the microphone and they would listen to what you said. And it was a great equalizer. And once I realized that I could be judged by the content of what I was saying and not because of how babyface I looked, I knew this was what I was going to do, probably for the rest of my life. And so you went from there to going on TV. Yeah, I was, how did that happen? I was so I was. I did a hit that was

like a news piece that happened to show up. I think it was on CNN, and it was about getting out the vote and young people voting. And that was right when MTV was doing Rock the Vote and Bill O'Reilly had just come over to Fox News channel had just launched, and there was a guy from Memphis, Tennessee, who was I think his producer at the time, and called me and said, hey, he wants to have you on. Um there's this new channel called Fox News now on

cable in Memphis. Fox News wasn't even available yet, so their pitched to me and Bill O'Reilly and I laugh about this every time we see each other. When he comes out with a new book and you know, come on my show. And we always laugh because the pitch senator was was, Hey, we have this host who's the former host of Inside Edition, and he'd really like to have you on a show. And so I did the show. We sparred, we fought, it went, it went really well,

and then that was the hit. That was it. They started having me back on a regular basis, and I started doing other shows at Fox and Shepherd Smith and Gibson show back when he was there. I mean, we're talking about the old lineup, no cavudo, and it took that one hit with the guy who used to host Inside Edition, as they described it. And I remember doing the show and no one could watch it. Right, your

parents are proud of you. You're seventeen. They want to see it because no one could see it, and so they fed ax me a VHS no, a beta tape. It was a beta tape of the appearance. So we had to find a friend who had a beta machine so we could even watch it. Wow. And by the way, for a lot of our podcast listeners, you may not know what a beta tape is. You know, the very beginning of being able to play movies at home. You

had two different types. You had a VHS cassette and you had Beta, which was son of Sony Beta Max, and they were competing size and Beta was a little bit smaller, and VHS went out. It was a battle to see who would be the market dominant, and Beta got crushed and went away. So it's you have to be at a certain age to know what the heck of Beta Max or a beta is. And then that later became DVDs, and then that later became Blu rays.

And now you know, our kids probably won't know what DVDs or Blu rays are because it'll all be streaming and who knows, it'll be virtual in about ten minutes. Oh exactly. It's the world has changed, and the and the ability to reach people, it's changed drastically over the last time. I remember when I started radio, we had the eight tracks and you would hit the button and

the eight track would play during the commercial breaks. When I started, I mean I was twelve, and then they gave you a big magnet that you would demagnetize the tape so you could rerecord over it. That's how long I've been in this business. So okay, so you're doing radio, you're doing TV, you're a teenager. You go off to college at Old Miss on a tennis scholarship. Now, I guess you you're a pretty hardcore tennis player. Yeah. I

started playing tennis. My aunt was a racquetball player, and so she was sponsored and she used to send Ectlon racquetball rackets to me for holidays and I would go play. And this tennis coach walked up to me as he saw me hitting on a racquetball court, and he's like, hey man, why don't you play a sport that other people actually play? And he goes, why don't you try tennis?

And I was like okay, And so I went out and hit a few balls with him, and he saw that I had, I guess, you know, some talent and he was like all right, he was like, you need probably get into tennis clinic. And so I started fell in love with a game understood very quickly. My parents didn't have a lot of resources, and I knew I needed a scholarship to go to college and tennis was gonna be my way to pull that off. And I played in college and absolutely fell in love with the game.

Got to see the world and play overseas and meet really interesting and cool people, and you know this playing you put your basketball guy obviously, And I got to play in high school and just have that team sport and taking a little bit of a break from the politics and the radio and TV. And I would still drive back and forth from Old Miss. I'd still fill in on radio for guys like Michael Reagan, Ronald's son and Gee Gordon Lyddie, Oliver North and some others like that.

So I was able to keep my hand in the political world. But having that break and just to be a college student and a college athlete is something I tell kids all the time. If you're passionate about sport and you get to play, play it to the highest level. I've never talked to anybody that regretted playing in college.

I have a lot of friends that regretted not playing in college because maybe they didn't get a scholarship to the university they wanted to go to, so they're like, all right, well I'll just give up on the dream. And almost I mean, I don't know anybody that's ever told me they you know, if you have that ability to play, I think at that level you run with it and you do it because you'll never forget those

moments with those teammates. And I think there's also something cool about sports, like there's a very small window senator, you know this where you can get to play it, and it's based on age. At the highest level. It's so fun to keep playing later in life. But when you get to play at peak physical condition at that age where you can maximize your potential, it's a very small window. And getting to play at that level was was something if I could go back and do it again,

I'd do it all over again. Well, and Ben and you had size and speed and strength and talent, all things sadly I was lacking. So so you know, you very kindly threw threw me a bone of Oh, you're a basketball player. I was a mediocre high school player, and I still play today, and I'd say I'm still right about the level of a mediocre high school player. Um So, so you know, it was a very different experience from from being a varsity athlete at a major

university and competing at the top level. But but one of the things I think is interesting, So you're you're a varsity athlete, you're you're in a fraterner. You're a big man on campus. But then you're also jumping on airplanes and flying to New York City and going on TV and on Fox at the same time. What was that Like it was you know back then, um when I was in college, So it was college two thousand and two thousand and four. Satellite. You know how we

can do TV now you just grab that. You know, they do it by satellite. The cost is very inexpensive now compared to what it was in two thousand. So if you were going to do TV, you got on a plane and I would literally run, you know, haul it from Oxford, Mississippi, to Memphis, get on a plane, fly to New York to do TV and then come back. And then you know, people around campus figured it out right,

like this is weird. You're doing TV, but you're also you know, hanging out at lunch, and it was it was pretty funny, you know, it was it was hilarious to see their reaction of like, hold on a second, you're the same guy that's screaming on Saturdays at the football game and Sunday morning you're doing the Sunday morning talk shows. This is weird, And I was lucky I

got to experience both of the exact same time. And I also it turned into me seeing bias at the first first level I've ever seen bias from adults, you know, from people in positions of power against young people. And that was the most shocking. I almost failed a class. And you're gonna laugh when I tell you which class I failed. It was a four hundred level class and it was literally entitled Editorial and opinion writing. If there is any class editor that I should pass, it would

be editorial and opinion writing. And I had this professor those who can do those who can't teach, Oh, so tell me. I assumed the professor was some wild eyed leftist, oh, hardcore left. And I walked in the first day. He knew exactly who I was, He knew exactly what I did. And it was my senior year and I would had just signed a book deal with William Morrow Harper Collins to write a book, and so it had been written about it was you know, it is obviously a big

deal writing your first, you know, big book. And I was doing a ton of TV then and I walked in and it was game on and he would do entire lectures, basically yelling directly at me in the class. Well, this class had three papers that you wrote that were a third a third to thirty year grade. Well, if you felt one of them, do the math. It's not good. So you're gonna it's gonna be bad. And so I

did my first again editorial and opinion writing. I did my first piece, and he gave me an f and I went to the head of the department and I said, now, was your first piece. Was it an editorial or was it writing about editorial? Write? No, it was like literally write an editor like an opinion piece. So I think I wrote about the Second Amendment and he failed me, and it looked like he got hammered and then spilled the red ink. I've never seen more red ink and

writing on a paper. And so I went to the head of the department and I was like, look like, it's obvious this dude has it out for me. And they're like, well, he's tenured, and he's a senior, he's been here, he's a premier. He's written for all of these magazines and newspapers, and you know, I can't overrule him. And I'm like, all right, fine, and I know what's gonna come. I'm gonna write the second one. He's gonna

fail me. Second one comes. Sure enough, he gives me a D. And I went back and I'm like, to the head of the department, I said, okay. I said, now, now you're really screwing with my life. Like I have to have this class to graduate. It's if this grade stands, I'm gonna fail the class, which means i'd have to come back and take this class in another semester. I'm gonna be gone. I'm going to the Bush campaign like I'm out of here and this could really screw up

my life. And they're like, I'm sorry. So I ended up going to the chancellor of the university and he said there was nothing he could do, and I said, all right, well, I just want to give you a heads up. I'm gonna go on. I think it was on Fox, and I said, I'm going to tell my story. And then the whole thing changed. Senator will hold on a second, let's see I can come of a compromise, said, well, ho,

you just told me. You just told me a second ago you can't compromise, and that you're just got to stand with this decision because well, what are you proposing. I said, take my name off the papers, given a three different professors in three different departments, and let them grade it, and if they failed me, I'll accept the grades. And they all came back with a's. And that changed it.

But that was the moment that I really was. I became angry, and I was like, I've got to keep doing this because what if you didn't have that threat of being able to expose them on national TV? If otherwise, and this is what's happening, I think on college campuses, as so many kids now are health hostage, they can't speak out, they stay quiet, they sit on their hands, they write what they think these professors want them to say,

instead of having a grand debate. And that's where we've I think, how we've gotten to the point where we are in this country right now where it's basically indoctrination, no longer a grand debate. That's exactly right, and that's

why verdickt is something very very different. Look. I think we are going to have a fun and amazing time doing this show together, doing a three days a week now, doing it regularly so that folks can count on it to come out, and I think it's gonna be it's gonna be a different vibe than Michael and I had.

Michael as a sort of Yale academic brought brought a very kind of conservative Catholic vibe that was fun, and I think you and I have a very different vibe that it's going to be interesting and engaging and help help get really to the bottom of the issues that are happening right now. And I'm going to give people updates. I'm going to try to work on your tennis game.

People don't know this yet, but we're gonna we're gonna secretly prepare air you for greatness in the tennis World's that's part of that's part of my new mission Field Senator. We gotta get that elbow right and then and then I promise we're not going to lose if we play

doubles together. So I actually I have tennis elbow, which Ben knows, and given how lousy my tennis game is, I don't even deserve to have tennis elbo like like that suggests you have some monocum of skill or maybe my skill so bad that's why I have tennis elbow. But anyway, Ben gave me this this like basically little electro shock, saying that your warm and it shocks it. And and I'm not sure if it actually helps or if he's just screwing with me and wants to see

how frequently shot myself. But I'm doing it regularly and I will confess it is actually helping. So that is that's been an interesting experience as well. I stated a holiday and Express last night. Senator, Hey, you know, give you electroid shock afterwards, there's gonna be some physical therapist out there. Isn't gonna be yelling at the at their phone right now, going do it, Senator. It's a Tensis machine.

Do it. It'll work. So yeah, you're gonna now you're gonna get filled with tweets coming to you on advice on how to do it. Well, I will confess it. It has made it made it sell a little bit better. Good. That's what That's what I like to hear. I want to ask you about some of the big news of the day that I that I think is shocking. There is some new audio that has been released on Hunter Biden, and it is shocking audio of Hunter begging for cash

to go, claiming it's for rehab. He is begging his brother's widow who he ended up dating, hooking up with whatever after his brother died, begging her for points reward points from a credit card as he's claiming he's going to check and a rehab and send her. When I listened to this and this just came out, there was two things that shocked me. One, I genuinely have compassion and feel bad for Hunter Biden because it's obvious he's an addict. He's addicted, and this is right around the time,

just weeks before his gun purchase. But there was something else in this audio that I think was so disturbing to me, and that is at one point, well, he's begging her for these points, and she's like, no, I'll send you to rehab. I'll do it, I'll book your ticket, but I'm not giving you this to you because she knows it's going to be used, I think for drugs, drug abuse. He says, well, give it to my uncle, and then she says no to that, and then he says,

well give it to my dad. And it was such an eye opening moment for me that I think just tells you about Joe Biden and James Biden, and the fact that they knew that he was a struggling addict and they exploited it. They sobered him up for the moments they needed him to get the deals done and the corruption and keep the money flowing to their family. I want to play this for you and get your reaction, and I'll do it. No, Honey, I don't want you to know where I'm going. It's very important that if

you want, you won't give me my money. Honey, Holly, please give the money. I mean, it's just points. I'm not even asking pose. I'm asking you from my point care you don't care. I will do it all, okay, here, how about this? Not you? Okay? You give it to No, No, give it to my Give it to my uncle, Jimmy. No, give it to my uncle, Jimmy. What's the difference now? Why? I don't care. I'll do it. Give it to my dad. You're not using it. Give it to my dad. It's

really important to me that you don't know. Give it to my dad. I figure a place either wise, don't ask me again. I can't pay for the place. Other wise, you're killing Why are you doing this? No? Center, you hear that and I have it made me sad. If you've ever known somebody that's become addicted to drugs, whether it's illegal drugs like this or prescription drugs, I have

compassion for people are struggling. And I hear that, and he basically is saying, send it to my uncle, and she says no, because she obviously doesn't trust certain the uncle. And then he says, give it to my dad, And she doesn't even trust her own father in law to do the right thing and to actually make him go back to rehab instead of just giving him access to what you know, his next fix. Here. I've never felt more compassion for him as a human being than this

tape that just came out. Yeah, look, that's that's really hard to listen to. That. That's someone who is clearly hurting, clearly is led, and is living a very troubled life. He's an addict, and and all of us have known addicts in our lives. My older sister, Marian tragically died of an overdose, and addiction is a cruel and horrific disease, and he's clearly in the throes of it, the desperation in his voice, and he one who's had loved ones

dealing with this has heard that desperation before. I'll tell you. Listening to it, what it reminded me of was was Rayleiota's character and Goodfellows when he was an addict and he's begging his wife again. It was the same same back and forth of begging his wife and the panic. But you're right that it also illustrates that that is his wife believes that that neither his uncle nor his father are going to do anything about it, That that you couldn't trust giving the points or given the money

to Dad, that they wouldn't just turn around. And presumably at least you know, you you infer from listening to that that that she thinks they're going to give it to him and let him buy drugs with it rather than ensure that he gets in rehab. And that you know, Look, if if Hunter Biden were Hunter Jones or Hunter Smith, he would be someone who had a very troubled life and and and you would want to see him get help, But it wouldn't be news his conversation. Conversations like this

wouldn't be talked about. What's different is his father's president of the United States, and the evidence that has come out of number one, his father, his father's official position being used essentially to immunize him from the crimes that

he's committing. But number two, the very significant evidence of his father being directly involved in corruption makes it a matter not just of a private son who is struggling with addiction, but of a question of public corruption that at the end of the day, this has never been about Hunter Biden. This is about Joe Biden. This is about the president and what he's willing to do, and those questions. You know, I think that that recording only

ample by those questions. You know, it's amazing how they're trying to act like Hunter Biden's business dealings can be separated from his father and his uncle and the big guy getting ten percent. You know, I part of my background. I own a gun range and a gun store and a barbecue restaurant. And if my dad was, you know, giving a massive government contract to my gun range right for law enforcement, that's a conflict of interest and that obviously would be a massive problem. I know that right

at the basic level. Yet NBC News Today came out and said, well, there's nothing wrong, nothing illegal with Hunter Biden taking money from foreign governments, acting like immediately that that's a closed case. I want you to hear this. This was on MSNBC, their NBC reporter saying this earlier. There's a lot of people who evade taxes or never prosecuted criminally, so that's going to be a big issue in this case in terms of like corruptionplic of interest.

We've never heard a hint that that was that there were potential criminal charges there. Because under Biden wasn't an officeholder, it was perfectly legal for him to take money from foreign governments as long as it wasn't he wasn't inappropriately giving them information from his family or something. There's no hint of that. There's no hint of that. I mean, NBC News looks at you in a straight face and

you've seen it. You've seen all the data that's come out, you've seen just all the suspicious activity reports on their bank accounts, and they say, in their actual words, there's nothing here, there's nothing that says that any of this was nefarious. And they say it with a straight face. And I think that's what worries so many Americans is they truly believe, Oh my gosh, they're gonna get away

with this. I mean, if they just nail Hunter Biden with tax issues and they just nail with a gun issue, those are technically the two issues, Senator that you probably cannot connect to his father and all the other stuff that they act did is that they should be charging him with. If they don't, then he's going to basically walk away with a slap on the wrist with the alibi. And I think it's clear as a family knew it. Well, we can say it's a drug addict, so you shouldn't

be hard on him. Yeah. Look, the obviously DJ is leaking like a sieve right now and projecting that they are going to in nit Hunter Biden on a tax claim at a gun plant charged those are I'm glad to see it on one side, and in that the laws should be blind and the fact that his daddy happens to live in government housing on Pennsylvania Avenue should not give him a get out of jail free card

that nobody else has. But it's it's disturbing for the same reason, which is that what they're leaking suggests they're not looking at the corruption. They're not looking at whether the corruption from Ukraine or the corruption from China, and in particular that they're not looking at the connections to his dad. The reason any one should care is because

of his father. And you know, the clip you just played for from NBC is truly absurd because takes something like boris mine and every time we talk Barisma, that brings us back to the very beginning of verdict launched on the first day of impeachment, when we talked about Barisa a lot. Hunter Biden was given a job at Barisma where they paid him eighty three thousand dollars every single month. Now, what expertise does he have. He doesn't speak Ukrainian, he doesn't know anything about oil and gas,

He has no relevant expertise. He had one qualification and one qualification only, which is that he carried the DNA of being the son of the sitting vice president at the time. And so NBC, well, there's no question of corruption or anything. Really, why does the Ukrainian gas company

pay him that money? What are they getting? And by the way, Hunter Biden, his father je Biden, then the vice President, was the point person for the Obama administration on Ukraine, so it was literally bribing essentially the family of the lead US policy person. And I'll tell you one thing to understand. Okay, Look, if you're a foreign government, let's say you're the Ukrainian government. Let's say you're communist China,

and you're trying to influence a US decision maker. Now, if you just show up and hand Joe Biden a paper bag full of cash, you could try to do that. But that's a little clunky and a little obvious and transparent. Even the shills at MSNBC might have a hard time explaining that one away. But there's a second way you do it, which is listen the video you played or the audio you played of Hunter talking to his wife. It is clear that Hunter Biden was a financial burden

to his entire family. He was a financial burden to his dad. His dad, I am sure, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars, trying to take care of his very troubled son. And look, we all respect that you should do what you can to help help your children, especially when they're troubled. But by Barisma giving Hunter Biden eighty three thousand dollars a month, what they did is they took that obligation off of

Joe Biden's palace sheets. In other words, he didn't have to support Hunter Biden because lo and behold, the Ukrainians are doing it for him. And then later on in China the private equity deals, and that he didn't China multi billion dollar deals. You've got indications there, including as you noted that the ten percent for the big guy. Let's be clear, the big guy. He is not talking about some of his back It's talking about Joe Biden.

And once again it is highly disturbing that DJ it doesn't seem has even the slightest interest in looking anything that could implicate Joe Biden. This is all about finding a fall guy and with an alibi, with an alibi, Phil and I mean, look, you and I both have compassion for Hunter. When you listen to that tape. Don't think that tape's not going to be played if they're in a court, when people are on a jury, A're gonna say this guy, this poor guy's an addict. He's

addicted to drugs. Okay, yeah, he broke the law, but maybe we'll give him a little compassion here. That's been their game plan the whole time, even when they brought out Joe's sister when she did the morning show Sunday Morning Show, CBS This Morning or whatever it was several months back. She clearly laid out the plan for the family, and that was he may have done something wrong back in the day, but he was an addict, so it's

not his fault. And that's always been the alibi, which meant they could exploit him and get even to do more insane deals. And I think you and I and this is something the American you will have to ask themselves.

This Hunter Biden exists as a businessman in any of these capacities, whether it's with you know, Chinese Communist Party and the oil and gas deals with Bob Olenski, the whistle blower about their deals with Russian olagarchs, and the former mayor of Russia's wife giving him millions of dollars with him being a defense attorney for more than a million dollars for a guy that's going to prison and missing in China or Barisma. Does any of that happen,

forget his last name, Hunter Biden. Does any of that happen without his father being involved in those deals? I would argue it's impossible to separate Joe Biden and James Biden from any of this. Look, I think that's right, and I think DJ is once again being partisan and political.

And what I fear is that this is also being done for a very explicitly partisan purpose, which is that Merrick Garland has decided if we indict Hunter Biden, then he can turn around and indict Donald J. Trump, And I think that is his objective at this point is to say, Gus, we're not political. Look, we indicted THEO who is so plainly guilty and recorded videos of it and put it out to the world, and we could

only not indict him if we ignored it. But it's all about having the Look how even handed we are. We're doing both sides for people that are angry, and I would be in this category center you hear this, And if the DOJ doesn't do a special prosecutor, if we don't get real indictments, just these two kind of

slap on the risk indictments that insulate the president. What does justice look like if you guys take control of the Senate, if Comber takes control, you know, in the leadership role there in the House, to investigate you know. Congressman Comber said that Hunter Biden quote is a national security threat who may be compromise, who may have compromised the president. And that's what he says. They're going to look out in the House side. But what does justice

look like if we don't get these indictments? Can you guys, you know, get a special prosecutor? Or? Is that no? Because the president is Joe Biden. Is there anything that you guys can actually do when you're investigating him to go back and force a DJ or the FBI or law enforcement do their job if they don't do it

the first time around. Well, I think the election matters powerfully because having a majority gives you the ability to then convene hearings, and those hearings there has been essentially zero oversight of the Biden administration. With Democrats in charge of Congress. They put partisan politics above everything else, so they don't want to know the answers to any of these things. I think we are extremely likely to see a Republican House, and I think there's a good chance

we'll see a Republican Senate. If and when that happens, I think we will see I hope and believe vigorous

hearings examining all sorts of issues. The corruption, the corruption going straight to the top, Joe Biden, his involvement in it, doctor Fauci, the origins of COVID, the Wuhan Institute of Virology, the ding from the NIH forgative function research, all of that, The involvement with Big Pharma in the administration's policy, the involvement with the teachers unions in the administration's in defensible policies. There are so many topics that are screening for oversight.

I think we will see hearings on every one of those topics. Those hearings may involve subpoenas if witnesses refuse to attend. Having the majority means you can issue subpoenas and use legal compulsion to make witnesses attend. You can have lawyers who engage the investigations. But you asked, can Congress appoint a special prosecutor? And the answer to that is no. Under our constitution, we have separation of powers

and only the executive can execute the laws. So the questions of prosecution, it is only article to the President the Attorney General that have the authority to indict anyone to prosecute anyone to bring a case risk. The legislature can pass laws that need the President's signature to become law, and Congress can hold hearings and shine a light. So I had been calling for two years for a special prosecutor to look at Hunter Biden, for a special prosecutor

to look at Anthony Fauci. This administration lasts that off. They don't care that they are going to be corrupt and political, and they do not care with the majority. What the hearings can do is shine a light and put pressure. But at the end of the day, the only person with the authority to appoint a special prosecutor is the Attorney General of the United States. And so that's one of the reasons why I believe one of the first orders of business should be impeaching Merrick Garland.

The degree to which he has turned J into a partisan nest of hornets, working on behalf of the White House, working on behalf of the dn SEE, I think has profoundly compromised the integrity as a partment of Justice and the FBI, And as an alumnus I worked at the DOJ in two thousand and one, that is both very sad, but it's also incredibly dangerous. I want to switch gears real quick before we run out of time today to

gas prices. Senator JP Morgan CEO came out earlier today in an interview and he said this about American oil production, as he also said we're headed into a recession if we're not already there. That obviously made a Wall Street perk up. But I want you to hear what he had to say about America with oil production. America needs to play a real leadership role. America is the swing producer, not Saudi Arabia. And we should have gotten that right story in March. It's almost too late to get it

right because obviously there's the longer term investments. America needs to play a real leadership role. You rarely see CEOs come out in this way, and this happens, and you tweeted this out. Valerio has now fired back with facts after the California government is going to investigate oil and gas companies for the gas price spikes there that are hitting seven eight dollars a gallon in some parts of California because the California Energy Commission, and obviously this is political.

Right before the elections, wrote executives at five oil and gas companies Centerer, demanding answers for sharp price increases, and basically the vice president for state government affairs at Valerio said, Okay, you want to know what's happening, Fine, we'll tell everybody. He said, California, for Valero, is the most expensive operating environment in the country and quota very hostile regulatory environment

for refining. He also said California policymakers have knowingly adopted policies with the express intent of eliminating the refinery sector. Valero said California requires refiners to pay very high carbon cap and trade fees and burden gasoline with a cost of low carbon fuel standards, saying, quote, with the backdrop of these policies, not surprisingly, California has seen refineries completely

closed or shut down major units. And he said when you shut down refinery operations, you limit the resilience of the supply chain, saying, don't blame us for this. You guys have isolated this market. You guys have destroyed this market. You guys have made us to produce a unique blend of gasoline, and now you want to investigate us while you set up this entire thing. You're I'm glad finally some companies are speaking out like this. I think it's

really important to see companies pushing back. You know. The letter continues and it goes right out the California regulators. In the letters from Valero, says, quote from the perspective of a refiner and fuel supplier, California is the most challenging market to serve in the United States for several additional reasons. California regulators have mandated a unique blend of gasoline that is not readily available outside of the West Coast.

California is largely isolated from fuel markets of the Central and eastern United States. California has imposed some of the most aggressive and thus expensive and limited environmental regulatory requirements in the world. California policies have made it difficult to increase refining capacity and it prevented supply projects to lower

operating costs of refineries. It is a great example of just responding with facts, and this is we're seeing this nationally with the radicals, the Green New dealal radicals and the Biden administration, and California is the Wuhan virus epicenter of the craziness that is in the Biden administration. All of these nutty ideas originated in California, with the crazies there. It is the reason people are fleeing California in droves.

But when it comes to energy, the reason gas prices are so high nationally five dollars, six dollars, even seven dollars a gallon is because Joe Biden and the people he appointed want gas prices to be high. They promised Joe Biden on the campaign trail, promised that he would end drilling on federal lands, both onshore and offshore, and they have bent over backwards trying to do that. They have put in place dozens of rules and regulations and policies designed to make it harder to develop oil and

gas in the United States. They shut down the Keystone Pipeline, They shut down exploration in anwar the incredibly resource rich, very small section of Alaska. They shut down new leases in offshore drilling where they're vast reserves. In the Golf of Mexico. They're not giving new leases there. They are not granting permits for pipelines, they're not granting hermits for refineries. And not only that they're cutting off the funds to pay for exploration. They're two avenues. To fund a new

exploration project, you'd neither have debt or equity. The Biden banking regulators are hammering banks not to lend oil and gas projects. And on the equity side, the Biden appointeeds to the SEC are hammering hammering efforts to raise equity to fund that. Also, if you have no capital, you can't drill. And so what's happening. The bad guys are getting rich. Russia's getting rich, or Rand's getting rich. Venezuela is getting rich because they're producing and by the way,

they pollute a lot more than America does. So so the Biden zealots are shutting down are hurting the environment at the same time. And as bad as all of that is, California takes all of that and does it on steroids. So when you pay seven bucks a gallon in California, I guess you could be grateful, because in a year they want you to pay ten bucks a gallon. And it's this is the direct result of policies passed by people who don't give a damn about your life.

They don't care about your kids, They don't care about working people being unable to afford to get to work or get to school. This is a religion for them, and the consequences of their policy that's for little people to worry about. It doesn't trouble their pretty little hits. Senator, we're often running with Verdict. As I said earlier, I'm looking really forward to doing this with you three days a week. It's going to be fun for everybody listening.

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