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to listen to any more of your rhetorical speeches. Thank you very much. I'm leaving well. I appreciate the as always kind and uplifting words of Senator Herono, and I would also note that throughout her remark she still did not say a negative word about Antifa, nor has any Democrat here. They instead engage in a political game where they depend. You're welcome to say something negative about Antifa right now. I think that I've covered the subject quite okay.

She declined to speak, so that is the position of the Democratic Party. I would note also that of the seven Democratic senators who spoke, not a one of them apologized for or denounced multiple Democrats calling law enforcement officers Nazis, stormtroopers, and Gestapo. To be fair, I don't have not heard the word Nazi, but stormtrooper was Nancy Pelosi and Gastapo was another Democratic leader. Welcome back to Verdict with Ted Cruz.

I'm Michael Knowles. I'm sitting here, of course with the senator. Senator, you have not yet chased me out of this room, but I notice you seem to have chased your Democratic colleague out of the Senate yesterday. Well, Michael, I don't like what you're saying, so I'm going to need to get up and run away and leave. Now. You're very frightening and you're you're causing me to hyperventily. Yeah, well, because I'm posing these very difficult questions to you, such

as are you willing to condemn Antifa? So so it was really crazy. So I chaired a hearing on Antifa violence. And it's I, as you know, chair the Constitution Subcommittee, a Senate Judiciary committee, and so the the hearing was focused on the right and the First Amendment peaceably to assemble. And by the way, if you remember back, do you remember Chris Cuomo on CNN saying saying, where is it written that that that protesting and gathering has to be peaceable?

And it's kind of like, well, okay, there's this thing called the First Amendment. It's in the Constitution, the right of the people peaceably to assemble. It's right there, first Amber, part of the Bill of Rights attached the Well you get understand, CNN, they don't have copies of the Constitution, so so you can understand. You wouldn't expect the CUOMO to be familiar with I don't know that it's even

allowed in the building. Frankly, I think that's probably right. Well, the hearing was on free speech and the right peaceably to assemble, and how radical anarchists and Marxists are taking over these protests and engaging in rioting and violence, and so we had testimony and in the entire course of it, so we had testimony originally from the Department of Justice and Department Homeland Security. Ken Kucinelli, the acting Deputy Secretary, test if I did a five fabulous job. But seven

different Democratic senators participated in the hearing. Not a single one of them was willing to say even a single word critical about Antifa. They wouldn't and it's you know, I gotta say, look, I'll give the DEM's credit. They have a message discipline. Like when a talking point goes out, I don't know who it is. Is that what it is? Though? I mean they basically they get the talking points that they stick to it. They repeat the same words over and over again. So for example, all of them called

the DHS law enforcement officers secret police. That was clearly the talking point. So so Mazy Heronos, the ranking Democrat on the committee, she plays this this video I think from the New York Times where it refers to them as unidentified officers, and literally the video playing they have in giant right yellow all caps letters the words police like that. That's not they are identified. Let's not a question about that. But it's but it doesn't stop them.

So they're talking points, and so they're talking points on Antifa, on the terrorists. Is they just scream right wing violence, white supremacist, white supremacists, and the difference by the way, um, look, I'm white supremacists, Nazis KKK. Those guys are racist idiots. Lock them all up, they commit violence, Lock them up and throw them in jai. This is the point. This was what was so shocking to me when I was

watching this clip of you talking to Senator Horono. When some fringe lunatic guy who maybe he associates with the right, and he comes out and says something bigoted, all the right disavows, condemns, takes two seconds, nobody worries about it. But none of your Democratic colleagues on zero, not one could condemn Antifa, or the Marxists or the other end. I mean, it seems so simple to me. Why couldn't they do it? So not only that, but but but

also we've seen their rhetorics. So Nancy Pelosi called federal police officers stormtroopers, aunt Jim Kleiber and one of the ranking leading Democrats of the House called them gestapo like calling cops Nazis yea, And not a single Democrat, I mean repeatedly that was called out. Not one of the Democratic senators would walk away from it. And so at the end of the hearing, Mazie got up and stormed out, and she's like, well, no, no, I've condemned violence. I'm like, well, no,

not from Antifa, not from the left. You insist the only violence that occurs is on the right. Facts be damned. Do you know what Ken Kucinelli told us at the hearing. What he said, there have been in the last six months two hundred and seventy seven officer injuries in Portland. Wow seven. So Ken Cucinelli Deputy Secretary of Department of Homeland Security, and he testified it, and he testified fact he had. So they're throwing rocks at the officers, they're

throwing frozen water bottles. In fact, Ken had a frozen water bottle with him just to illustrate. They hit an officer in the head with a sledgehammer. They're bringing knives, they're bringing guns, They're throwing gasoline and lighting gasoline on fire. They're firing mortars with with commercial fireworks. They have those lasers. Well, and you and I, so we did we did an interview with the Secretary of Homeland Security, Chad Wolf, and

we did it at DHS, which was pretty cool. But while we're doing the interview, you and I are sitting there into the room walks Ken Cucinelli. You know, in the moment I couldn't quite tell. Obviously the lighting was a little dark. So, like I said, who is this guy who's kind of walking in if i'd known. If i'd know it was him, I would have said he should come right on the show. And if i'd have seen him, he came in behind me, so I didn't

see him. If I had seen him, I said, Cooch, come on over, pull up a chair because he was coming to testify that afternoon, and he had a prop he had, so the commercial laser that they're using. Yeah, I have to admit when I read about the sort of lasers to the eyes that that struck me as a little bogus because we've always had little laser pointers, right, you chase your cat around with it? Yeah, Like I mean, isn't that? Isn't that All of Twitter is cat videos, like, like,

I think that's the entirety of the Internet. Yeah, but what was interesting is these commercial ones. So so Cooch had one of those. He said, here, hold your hand out, so I did, and he points it and in like one second. It takes about a second and then you go, oh crap, and you yank. I mean it burned. Well, you know, I don't. I don't think that you were necessarily foolish when he says put your in it, you

did it, But then I saw it burned. You and then you tell me, hey, Michael, put your hand out, and I like a fool, I put my hand out and I get it burned by Look, this is basic human instinct. You know. You have like spoiled milk and you go, oh, stays terrible like, but it's serious. I mean, you can you can light a piece of paper on fire with those lasers. And this is this is the kind of thing that's being shined in the CoP's eyes.

And and Cucinelli testified over thirty officers have had eye damage where they shine it in their eyes and it's a risk of permanent blindness. And in fact, what they're doing is they have these shields and they get up right close at them to shine the laser right in their eye, um, and try to blind them. Yeah, and you know one thing, you did very well at the hearing. And for some reason, I notice these clips aren't going around.

I don't know why the press isn't covering it. You went through with great specificity who these people are, the organized anarchists, the organized Marxists who are behind these riots all over the country. You know, I think the Democrats they've outright denied that Antifa even exists. It's Jerry Nadler the other day pretended it's not real. You went through

those specifically, these are real Marxists, these are real anarchists. Well, and you take two different groups that are worth worth focusing on one Antifa, and you've got we heard a lot of testimony. Antifa is profoundly violent. They engage in terrorism, they encourage terrorism, they train people to engage in this violence. They're also profoundly anti free speech. They and they use violence as a way to silent speech they disagree with you,

and these are concerted. You know, Andy No the journalist, he testified at the hearing about being violently beaten up by the way they call him a white supremacist, as he described he's he's the son of a Vietnamese immigrant. He's Vietnamese and gay is not. You're like, he is the most Vietnamese white supremacist I've ever met, There's no question. But you know what they call Ben Shapiro and Nazi, So so never let facts get in the way right

of their attacking rhetoric. Yeah, but you know, so you had the anarchists of Antifa, and you had Marxists as well, as you explained yesterday, well, and I talked at some length about black lives matter. Now, now it's important to understand the difference. The phrase black lives matter. Oh yeah, of course is indisputably true this period the end. And let me actually take a digression for a minute. I think most Republicans are morons when it comes to talking

about black lives matter. Uh, because when you have someone say does black lives matter? You get all these Republicans No, all lives matter? Yeah, why can't you just say yes? Right? If you ask me, yes, it's black lives matter. Well, it's like Mazie Herono's answer, right, Well, you condemn Antifa, I condemn extremism, Say right, but what about specifically Antifa's you know, for a simple question like absolutely, black lives are precious and they matter immensely, and the reason is

every life is created by God. But you don't you see Republicans like terrified to say that, Yeah, because we're in such a weird politicized world. Well, and also because there's this organization which is very different. Well, and and that's so the statement black lives matter is a truism. Overwhelming the majority of Americans agree with it. It It should be everyone I mean, yeah, basically everyone, I think. But there's something very separate from the organization that is called

Black Lives Matter and this um. There's an article I entered into the record of the hearing from the Washington Examiner that gives some of the history of the organization. So it was founded by three radicals who describe themselves in their own words as trained Marxists. So they are this is not me calling the Marxist. They tell you they're Marxists. They tell you they've studied Marx and Lenin and Mao. They I mean, there's a video of Patris Klus,

Who's who's one of the co founders. She says, Alicia and I are Alicia Garris, another co founder, are trained Marxists. And the third co founder, oh, Paul Timetti, is seen smiling and photographs with the communist dictator of Venezuela. They're they're not hiding this sort of thing. So not only that, one of the founders of the organization Black Lives Matter describes as her mentor Angela Davis. Now Angela Davis, I don't have to call her communist. She tells you she

was a communist. She was not once, but twice the vice presidential nominee of the Communist Party of the United States. So she's an avowed communist Marxist and by the way, you know is rapidly anti Semitic, rapidly anti history. Someone else who Susan Rosenberg? Now, who is Susan Rosenberg? Susan Rosenberg is the vice chair of the board of directors of Thousand Currents. Now, what is thousand Currents? Thousand Currents is what is funding the organization Black Lives Matter? Now?

Who is Susan Rosenberg? Also, she was part of the revolutionary military group known as the May nineteenth communist organization affiliated with the Weather Underground. She was convicted of weapons and explosive charges and sentenced to fifty eight years in prison. So she's a convicted terrorist. By the way, she was pardoned by Bill Clinton on the last day of his presidency. It was one of those midnight and a million other

people were parking at the end of the administration. So she was at Rosenberg in the nineteen sixties and seventies was on the FBI's most wanted list. She was caught in nineteen eighty four unloading hundreds of pounds of dynamite and weapons including a submachine gun. So we're not talking like a sort of mild little rebel. We're not just

a frozen water bottle. It is not so Garza, one of the Black Lives Matter founders, talks about how convicted cop killer Assanta Shakur is one of her main inspirations. Now Skur is right now today on the FBI's most wanted list. There's a million dollar reward for Shakur's information leading to her capture. She's believed to be hiding in Cuba, and she was a member of the Black Liberation Army,

another terrorist organization. She's wanted for escaping from prison, and she was in prison serving a life sentence for murdering a police officer. And the police officer and individual named Werner Forster, was shot execution style, point black. This wasn't an accidental this was and and by the way, it's not like these folks are just kind of okay, we're all like vaguely know each other. So Colors, one of the three founders, wrote a memoir entitled When They Call

You a Terrorist, a Black Lives Matter Memoir. So it's like what we're all about. The foreword is written by Angela Davis and the epigraph is written by Shakur the cop killer. Wow. So there they don't tell you this in the mainstream media. In fact, I had never heard that, and I've actually done some research into the BLM organization. So Angela Davis, you wan't to talk about the anti semitism of Angela Davis for a minute. She was asked, so she was big apologist for the Soviet Union. Yeah,

I look communist, That's what they did. So she was traveling to Moscow and she was asked if she would speak up for the Jewish prisoners of conscience in the gulags in the Soviet Union, and her answer was, and this is a quote, that they are all Zionist, fascists and opponents of socialism, and so therefore she would be urged that she would urge that they'd be kept in prison. Not only would she not speak up with them, she'd be like, lock them up. By the way, Angela Davis

just recently endorsed Joe Biden for president. That's right, and she said he would be easy to manipulate it. Black Lives Matter Itself refers to Israel as an apartheid state, committing genocide. That's that's their terms. But what is Black Lives Matters stand for? If you go look at their website yea, their number one priority is abolishing the police nationwide. Yeah, which is, by the way, according to Gallup polling, opposed

by eighty one of Black Americans. It was either Gallup or was a YouGov pole But it just came out.

And if Black Lives Matter succeeded in their stated objective of abolishing police, the result would be many, many more Black lives are lost, of course, because you would have many more murders, many more rapes, many more assaults, which sadly we're seeing in big cities right now as police are are are being held back, but but without law enforcement, those living in the most high crime neighborhoods get they're victims and many of the far too many of the

victims of crime or African American and Black Lives Matter. It is essentially abandoning him to that. Not only that Black Lives Matter, the organization calls for abolishing the nuclear family like moms and dads. Don't just say that again, it's very like they explicit and this go read their own website. Don't take my word for it. That's what they're advocating for now, let me tell you. And by

the way, they also call for a white boycott. They say boycott white corporations, that nobody should buy anything from white corporations. Now, one of the things I talked about the hearing yesterday, we're seeing all these companies, particularly tech companies they're wanting to virtue signal, who are giving millions and millions of dollars right to this organization Black Lives Matter. Those are among those tech companies that are doing it

are Microsoft, Amazon. I went and listed a whole bunch, but but pause for a second and think. Look, Microsoft, it's largest shareholders a guy named Bill Gates. Yeah. Last time I checked, Bill Gates, a white guy. Yeah. So Microsoft is literally donating money to an organization calling for people to boycott Microsoft, like like saying do not purchase any products from anything Bill Gate. Amazon. Amazon's given him money. Yeah, Jeff Bezos is a white guy. Amazon is funding a

group saying don't buy anything from Amazon. And it's look, you want to support social justice, great, wonderful, Go support school choice, Go give scholarships for inner city kids to go to excellent schools. There are all sorts of things you can do. But the problem is because people are

terrified of contradicting the indisputably true statement that black lives matter. Yeah, that they'll support this awful organization, and they are funding explicit Marxists who want to destroy capitalism, destroy for enterprise, destroy the family. Speaking of our friends who were stuck at home, a number of them are writing in questions for the mail bag from Balaam's donkey. This is a Twitter account. I don't think it's this. I don't think it's this Christian name. What can I do personally to

stop this madness? I'm not I'm not important. I'm not even a good debater, but I know what I believe. Give me specifics. Speak, speak to your friends, speak to your family, and you know what you are famous, bloms Docky Donkey, because you've got with social media, every one of us is publisher. Now I know you also on a big podcast right now, like every one of us

can speak out. And I actually tell like, I don't know how how old bloms Docky is, but I talked to a lot of you know, high school kids, college kids, and when it comes to defending freedom, why it is freedom matter? I say, Look, you can do it much better. I'm forty nine years old. How many fifteen year olds are gonna listen to me? Yeah, I'd much rather have a fifteen year old say why does it matter to be free? Use your voice to explain why freedom matters,

why free speech matters. Look, the left are intolerant, totalitarian, and oppressive. So speaking out using humor, uh, telling stories? Um? And on that point, knowing what you say. I mean Balama's donkey says he knows what he believes, and I believe him. But I think some people, you know, they want to get out there and argue their point of view.

The other the other side of this is study the facts, I mean, read up, no, know what your point of view is, so that you can articulate why, why you support your country, why you like your freedoms while you like your rights and and and help educate others. And look, left and right tend to communicate differently. Um. Too many people on the right communicate like accountants. Yes, yes, just throws crazy numbers in a green eye shade. Yeah. And and the left they go for the heart. Yeah. I

mean their argument is he wants to eat your children. Yeah, I mean that's what they say, right, we got to do both. It's why stories are you know, when you and I did the pod with John Voyd, Yeah, and you're we're talking to him about like storytelling is a

natural skill. And actually, actually this may have been afterwards where we were we were enjoying a cigar together, and I think I think this was after the pod and we were we were talking with John and and I said, look, storytelling is a natural human expression of all of us, and and and it's how we all communicate. And John discres it. No no, no, no, no no or no lad I think, no, no, lad, no, you do a

better avoid impression than I do. But but his to be sure, there are better storytellers, and we're storytellers, right, but it is how our hearts are stitched together. Yes, yeah, so tell stories. We need more than just eggheads. I mean we want, you know, we want the accounting to work out, but you have to grab people with a narrative. Chase wants to know, speaking of sometimes we're lemmings, sometimes

we fight back. He has a question about owning the libs, you know, a politics of opposition, Yeah, banding together, He says, is owning the Libs a strong enough policy platform to win the House, Senate, the White House? Of course? Not so, of course not. Look this election, we win, Trump gets re elected. Republicans win. If this is a battle of ideas because the left is gone insane, Yeah, their ideas are terrible. If this is a battle between socialism and

free enterprise, we win. If this is a battle between abolishing the police and protecting people's safety, we win. Yeah. Like their positions are so extreme. But I suppose this raises the question because when I hear owning the Libs, there is something to this right, a politics of opposition, where because their ideas are so extreme, because they're you know, they're like pulling down statues and burning down the country. I wonder if if what Chase is asking is is

it enough to just point to their craziness. So my point on this, though, is that we have to fight on the field of ideas. I think that Democrats want to make this election entirely a personality election, and they wanted a referendum. Undo you like Donald Trump? Yes or no? There's a reason Joe Biden is hiding his basement, right, And it's actually I don't think that it's seen that he's seen Island has dementia. I think they've made the decision.

They think they're winning on a personality popularity contest on Donald Trump, and so they just figure, all right, why you know, if you're winning, don't mess with it. Yeah and so and so. From their perspective, they would characterize it as sort of owning Trump. Let's let's just make it, yeah, all about him. Look, you and I both have fun on Twitter, and you know I own the occasional lib nothing wrong with that, but I try to do it.

I know you two actually on substance and issues. So if it's a question do you have the guts to actually take him on? Yes, that matters. Yeah, do you have a sense of humor and be fun about it? You know? Do you see the Portland rights are now complaining They want like like the government to fund equipment so they could riot. And look, I saw that and I tweeted it out and I said, you know, absolutely, I agree. I'm more than happy to give it to you.

Every one of you that engages in violence, I'll give you a taxpayer paid orange jumpsuit. That's exactly right. I mean, it's you know, but it needs to be on substance. There's also a point to that. When I'm saying that, I'm making a point that these are violent criminals that should be incarcerated. You can have a little bit of fun with it, yeah, and you probably should, but it's got to be grounded and something real if it's going to be effective. You know, just saying you suck it

is not a great message. And frankly, is how leftist. I mean that that's basically what what they say to Trump is they just hate him. I mean, they're just orange man bad. I mean, that's just they just scream primal rage. But look how many Republicans are actually engaged in a real battle of ideas right now? Yea. And what I'm urging the White House if they let it be a personality contest, yep, that's what the left wants. That's what the left wants, and I think that's much

more dangerous than focusing on ideas that work. Yeah, well, we will have to leave it there. I will see you on the next episode. We'll see you on the next episode. I'm Michael Knowles. This is Verdict with Ted Cruz. This episode of Verdict with Ted Cruz is being brought to you by Jobs, Freedom and Security Pack, a political action committee dedicated to supporting conservative causes, organizations, and candidates

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