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and watch them, so make sure you do that. This was a very big week Center because the President name Pam Bondy as her as his AG pick, and that was something that a lot of people received with a lot of excitement.
Well, that's right, it's big news. Pam Bondi is going to make a very strong AG I know, Pam. Well, we're going to talk about her. We're going to talk about that nomination, what it means, what it means for the Department of Justice, what it means for the country, what to expect in the Senate, what's going to happen next. We're also going to talk about what Joe Biden is doing on the way out of the White House, and
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Pam Bondi has been selected by Donald Trump to be the AG. I've got to know her a little bit through doing different things on TV. You know her pretty well from different campaign things, et cetera. Are you excited about this pick, because it seems to be that most are very excited about how qualified she is. Her resume matters in this one a lot more than the last pick, and people say she knows how to do this job.
Yeah, it's a great choice. It is an excellent choice. You know, it's interesting. We did Friday's pod. You and I recorded it Thursday afternoon, right before I got on the plane and flew back from DC to Texas. And Thursday afternoon, the news had just broken that Matt Gates was pulling out. So we did the whole podcast on
that news that had just broken. I'd come from the lunch with the other Senate Republicans where everyone was still a little shocked at the speed with which Gates pulled out of the contention, and at the time we didn't know who the nominee was. So Friday's pod we were speculating different folks. What is interesting is how quickly Trump acted. Trump acted within hours, and by Thursday night we knew the nominee Pambondy, and that nominee is now going full
speed ahead. I'm going to say it is a very very strong choice.
Let's talk about her resume so people understand, because if you're outside of Florida, you may not know just how qualified she is what she has done.
Yeah.
So Pam's background. She's from Tampa.
Originally, she got an undergraduate degree from University of Florida degree in criminal justice. She then got her law degree from Stetson Law School and she was admitted of the Florida Bar in nineteen ninety one and she spent eighteen years as a prosecutor in the Hillsboro County State Attorney's Office, trying cases including domestic violence, including murder. She was a line prosecutor trying cases. She then became Attorney General of Florida in twenty ten.
She made history.
She was the first female attorney general in the state of Florida, and she focused on number one, challenging Obamacare. She focused on taking on human trafficking and she also focused on shutting down pill mills and fighting the state's opioid crisis, and she held that post for eight years until twenty nineteen. She is right now the chair of the Center of Litigation and also co chair of the Center for Law and Justice at the America First Policy Institute.
And she was very notably part of his defense team. Trump's defense team in the first impeachment trial. So when Verdict started, when this podcast began, the very first Verdict podcast was the first night of the first Trump impeachment trial, and I came from the Senate Flora where we spent the entire day there, came to the studio and recorded Verdict the very initial episode. And actually Verdict at the time went from non existent. We started with zero listeners,
zero viewers. It went from non existent to its skyrocketed up the charts and became the number one rank podcast in the world, beating Joe Rogan, beating the New York Times, beating everybody. Pam at the time was someone I worked with closely during that impeachment trial, and she is a serious, capable trial lawyer. And I got to tell you, look, Attorney General is a job that requires competence. It requires knowledge of the law. It requires good judgment, and it
requires backbone, and I think Pam's got all three. And it is a job where competence really matters. Listen that this administration is going to face all sorts of legal challenges. It's going to face blue states and blue attorneys general filing lawsuits day after day after day. It is going to face every step President Trump takes, he's gonna face
law fair on the other side. And one of the most important responsibilities for an Attorney general is to give good, sound legal advice about how to navigate those land mines, how to implement the Trump policy in a way that survives and is durable legally.
And I got to say, I think I think Pam will do an excellent job.
You talk about the role as the AG, and there's so many different things you're involved in. It's a lot of it is managing and making sure that people are doing their jobs well and find the right people. There's also the deep stated aspect of this that people are saying, hey, we want to get the bad actors out. She is actually defended Donald Trump against those activists and the deep
state that we're coming after him. How important is her just seeing that and defending him and knowing what they were doing to him and to others around him, whether it be Flynn, the list goes on and on. That will help her do better, be better at this job than maybe anyone else.
Look, she's strong and she's loyal to the president, but she also cares about the rule of law, and you need to have both to do this job effectively. This may be the single hardest job in the incoming Trump administration. And look, I want to give you an example. Take a look at Pam and.
Who she is.
These criminals made one very big mistake. They wound up in Polk County. And I'll tell you it's bad enough in one thing to profit from poisoning others, but it's another when you bring drugs from Mexico into our country California, Texas, Georgia, and end up in our state and do it with impunity.
Because when you're in this country illegally and you're doing things illegally, I want to tell you, and you wind up in Polk County, Grady Judd is gonna find you, the DEA is gonna help them, and my statewide prosecutors are gonna lie you up for as long as we can.
And we're gonna enjoy it.
And each of these defendants are looking at fifteen thirty years in Florida State prison for conspiracy to traffic drugs.
I mean, she's not messing around, and I love the sheriff there by the way. We're going to enjoy it. But I mean, this is I think her life work. She's saying, let's go. You want to go to war, We're gonna go war against the bad guys. We're gonna protect Americans. We're gonna go after the cartels, we're gonna go after the drugs. We're gonna go after the people that are doing this across our borders. And she mentioned all those states, including Texas. That's why I'm excited about her.
Well, and for those of you all listening to this on audio, what we just played as a video of a press conference of her bringing a prosecution against drug traffickers, against criminals, and as you noted, the sheriff behind her quick quickly chimes in, and we're going to enjoy it. I mean, this is we need an attorney general who is tough, who is focused on securing the border, is focused on stopping human traffickers, is focused on stopping drug traffickers.
I think Pam's going to do an excellent job of that. And by the way, if you don't trust me on it, let me give you someone else. If you don't want to take my word for it, take Al Sharpton's word for it. Give a listen to Al Sharpton on MSNBC.
Absolutely, I think it was the wise thing for the Trump people and for President and LEC Trump to withdraw him now because a long term spectacle of days and weeks or would only damage them even more. Take your losses shot. Let him walk away because he was never qualified and he could not give any reasonable argument as to why he'd be attorney general. I talked to people that I know in Florida last night that on the civil rights side, we have a chapter in NAWSH Action
Network there. Bondy is certainly on the right. But she is one who's qualified to become Attorney general in terms of she's handled cases, she's managed officers, and yes, we can raise questions about which he did with Trump University, but there's no glaring things in terms of her values and models. You're talking about gates with underage sex. You're talking about Ronnie of that has been documented that was center around, and to put him in charge of the
Justice Department made a mockery of the system. So I think it was better for Trump, not that I'm a Trump person at all, but it was better for him and certainly better for the American public to get Gates off the seat.
I mean, he's saying like, I don't know how you're going to attack her, and that's on MSNBC. I think she's qualified, she knows how to do the job. She's been elected by the people of a big state, not once, but twice. And basically, if Al Sharpton, that's like a glowing reviewers if you're a Republican.
Yeah, look, that's basically Sharpton going, oh crap, yeah, like this is a good choice. And I'm Al Sharpton and I really hate that this is a good choice. That's an awfully good recommendation. Here's another one. Take a listen.
Action I got from inside the Justice Department last night was this is Matt Gates with a better legal resume. But the legal resume is significant, Willie and guys, because Pam Bondi was a career prosecutor down there in Hillsborough County for many, many years before she was elected Florida's first female Attorney general. So she's prosecuted major cases, murders, death,
penalty cases. She understands how that works. Matt Gates had never really been much of a lawyer before he was elected to the Florida legislature, so that's a big difference. And you know she at the same time, though, she is you know, an extreme maga activist and has tainted her legal career with very strong stands in favor of
some questionable things. There was a famous incident back in around ten years ago when if you remember, Trump University, that for profit university that Donald Trump ran, was getting a lot of consumer complaints about being a scam, and her office was asked to join a multi state lawsuit and Donald Trump's foundation contributed twenty five thousand dollars to her campaign and she opted not to join that lawsuit in his foundation was later fined for making a legal contribution.
So look, she served her tenured eight years as Florida Attorney General. She later went on to be one of Donald Trump's impeachment defense lawyers in the Ukraine impeachment in twenty twenty made a speech on the House floor during the trial arguing that there was a Biden corruption scandal in Ukraine and that that's why that phone call was okay. And she's also raised questions about fraud in the twenty twenty election, which people think were baseless. So it's a
bit of a mixed bag. But people are breathing a little bit of a sigh of relief of the Justice Department that at least she's a real lawyer, and that her deputy, Todd Blanche, donald Trump's defense attorney, does have a lot of experience in the Justice Department and is also well regarded over there. Net people are thinking this
is a much better situation than Matt Gates. But she is certainly a Donald Trump loyalist who has also raised questions about weaponization at the Justice Department and may really cause some trouble over there from the perspective of some of the career folks.
If you want to know what a weak argument looks like from MSNBC, like, well, there's something maybe ten years ago. And by the way, if you actually heard her explanation on the Trump University thing, she said, we looked at the number of people that could have been effected in the state, and we decided it wasn't worth any of our time to even look at this for X, Y
and Z purposes. And there was a bunch of liberals that went after him, but they went back over a decade to find something pretty darn obscure and they're like, well, her biggest liability is she's friends with Donald Trump.
Well it's the Trump administration. Get used to it.
Well, And once again, that's an MSNBC legal analyst who is laying that out, who says she's a serious lawyer, career prosecutor, real lawyer, knows how to lead teams, no hes how to run organizations, knows how to bring a case. That's their attempt to attack her. And their attack is, well, you know she she's a Trump loyalist.
Well knows is gonna get the job.
You know.
Funny thing. I mean, Eric Holder was the runner up. And you know, I'm sure Trump was thinking about, give me a radical leftist who wants to destroy my administration. And as much as MSNBC would love that, that was not going to happen. Listen, where is this going to go now? Pambondi's going to be confirmed?
You have no doubt about that.
I think she'll be confirmed easily, barring some dramatically unexpected step, which I don't expect. Yeah, you know, she will be confirmed. I think she will have a straightforward hearing in the Judiciary Committee. The Democrats will take some shots at her, but you just saw from MSNBC they don't have much.
I'd start with just quoting Al Sharpton. I'm glad we're here today. Al Sharpton said this about you.
All right, that's not bad. I mean you can still that Sharpton. You know, I'm going to have my questioning. I've never quoted Al Sharp.
Do you get to check two boxes? That day? The Democrats will also crib she.
Is going to be confirmed. It is going to be straightforward. And I got to say this is not our rundown for topics today. But but we just did play two clips from MSNBC, and for the record, we're doing this before Elon Musk buys MSNBC.
Mx NBC. That's whatever it's trending on Twitter right now. I got it.
I should say.
I gotta say it is a phenomenal thing. I've been encouraging Elon. Do it, do it, do it. I gotta say it would be a fabulous thing. And maybe that's what Al Sharpton is doing. Maybe maybe alas a job, I want a job. Nobody else is paying me. Please, I want a job even on MSNBC as the wild I'd left as they are today. We played their clips twice and there's a reason for that. Pambody's nomination was a very strong nomination.
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stick it to the Trump administration. Biden has decided at the very end of his administration not respecting the voters when one of their top issues was border security, to loose in key migrant policies quote unquote, right before you go into December January and until January twentieth one. Obviously Donald Trump would undo all of this.
Well, it's late November.
Now.
Let me point out a couple of things. Number One, have you seen Joe Biden in weeks? No, I guess he's still on vacation. Look, Kamala Harris is in Hawaii. Joe Biden, I don't know where the hell he is. I'm not sure if we actually have a president of the United States right now. They're certainly not allowing him to go outside or to appear on camera. And even so, even though we have an A Wall president and an A Wall Vice president, I think it is absolutely clear
that both Biden and Harris want Trump to fail. They want the problems in this country to get worse, and they want to make sure that Donald Trump inherits the worst stinking pile of crap possible. So you look at challenges at home and abroad. At home, the greatest domestic challenge we have is the open borders that Joe Biden Kamala Harris put in place. Abroad, the greatest challenge we have are the wars that are unfolding because of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris's weakness, domestically.
What are they doing?
Well, apparently neither Biden nor Harris learned a damn thing from the election. They didn't hear from the voters that they don't want an open border, they don't want this invasion. So instead they're doubling down and they're trying to make it harder for Trump to come in with the new administration, secure the border and remove dangerous criminal illegal aliens. Take a listen to this reporting on Fox about what specifically the Biden administration is doing, Sandra.
The Biden administration is quietly loosening immigration policies before Trump takes offense. This according to The New York Post. It reports the administration is testing a new app that will allow illegal migrants to bypass in person check ins at their local ice office.
Jeff Paul is Live with More.
It sounds like they're just giving Donald Trump one more thing to undo.
Well, Jaw, we do know the Biden administration has been testing this new immigration and cut Them's app, and the idea is to streamline the check in process for migrants, allow them to use their phones or computers to touch base with immigration officials while they wait for their date in court. Instead of appearing for those check ins in person.
A source tells Fox News Ice has been using the app already in a couple of cities, but according to the New York Post, it's going to be launched officially next month in New York City. The field office there reportedly has been overwhelmed, fully booked with appointments for a year. Our sources tell us that's really the push to get this backlogged moved through. The concerns regarding this app. Obviously, it's a new app, so there's going to be some glitches.
The other wider concern is could it cause even more migrants to go under the radar. We'll have to see what happens.
John.
There's also some major issues in the reporting with this app. For example, the app reportedly has severe glitches and issues and does not track a migrants location if he or she is using an Android phone or laptop. So hey, if you're an legal immigrant, just don't use an iPhone and they won't be able to track you. The app also does not check migrants for pass arrests or outstanding warrants, which is what they do now currently, and so that's another problem.
They say.
The app allows them to opt out of the contest government orders to undergo electronic tracking, so you can just say no, I don't want to be tracked.
There's no way to find you.
And they know all of these glitches are in here, and yet they're going, yes, we should move forward with this, knowing that Donald Trump's going to undo it.
Well, understand, the problem is not just that Donald Trump's going to undo it, but the Biden administration is trying to make it harder to find these illegal immigrants. Why would you say, Hey, you don't have to check in in person. Hey, you can check in on an app that doesn't track your location, if you're on an Android for it. Hey, you can check in in a way that we're not going to find out if you've been arrested,
if you have a warrant. This is all designed to help illegal immigrants go underground because Joe Biden, Kamala Harrison. Let's be clear, every Democrat in the House and Senate, you don't hear any of the Democrats speaking out of it against this. None of them are saying this is wrong, don't do this. This is designed to make it more difficult for the incoming administration to find illegal immigrants. And
to arrest illegal immigrants and to deport illegal immigrants. That includes the convicted murderers that have been released by this administration, the convicted rapists, the convicted child molesters. You look at, twenty twenty three set the record for the highest number of illegal immigrants entering the country in a single year, three point two million. And Joe Biden and Kamala Harris they don't want those illegal immigrants removed from this country.
They see them as future Democrat voters. This is all about power, and I got to say it is stunning. Well here, I want you to take a look at this, this tweet from Bill malusion that lays out some of the numbers. And for those of y'all that are listening, I'm going to read it to you. This is what Bill Malujin tweeted, new per US official to Fox News.
There are currently one point four million illegal immigrants in the US who have been ordered deported by a DOJ immigration judge but haven't been removed yet.
So that's, by the way, if people want to know where Trump's going to start, I think Bill Malugin's tweet is a great reminder. There are one point four million illegal immigancs US have been ordered to be deported. So if you want to know where they're going to start, this is where they would start.
Yeah, I'm told approximately thirteen thousand of them are being held in ice custody, So out of one point four million, only thirteen thousand are in custody. The population of one point four million illegal immigrants have final orders of removal, meaning they have had their immigration cases heard, receive their due process, and have been ordered removed from the US by a DOJ federal immigration judge. A fraction of them may still have appeal options available to them and may
not yet be removable. With only thirteen thousand in federalized custody, we are potentially looking at a lot of people roaming around the country who are in the US illegally and who have been ordered removed. It is possible to know how many of them may be in state or local custodies. That one point four million, You're right, is exactly where
I expect the Trump administration to start. I also expect them to start with the five hundred thousand convicted criminals, those with other criminal convictions murder, rape, child molestation, who are illegal immigrants, who are released to go and apprehend the criminals. Go after the murderers, the rapists, the child molesters, go after the Venezuelan gang members. If you're a Venezuelan gang member, my advice is pack up and move out
right now, because we're coming for you. That this administration is going to arrest you. They're going to remove you, they're going to deport you, and if you've committed criminal offenses, they're going to put you in jail.
Let's talk about the tone death aspect of this, and I say tone death. Some people would care. They don't seem to care. Referring to the Biden administration. You just had a trial that was watched in Georgia of an incredible young lady who fought for a life.
For eighteen minutes.
Eighteen minutes she was fighting to save her own life. She was ultimately killed by an league emmorrant that we were paying for the hotel rooms, we were flying him from New York to Georgia, and we're allowing him to be able to kill this incredible student in nursing school.
And yet the response from this administration is, yeah, we're gonna keep facilitating that and do it on an app and make sure we can't track people for the next seventy days because well, we're sorry that you guys picked Donald Trump and you wanted security.
We're not gonna give that to you.
Well, it's even worse than that.
The attitude of a great many Democrats is massive resistance. It is reminiscent of Bull Connor during the Civil rights battles. Bull Connor was an elected Democrat who did not want to follow the law and was defying the law, and he was bitterly angry. I want you to get Give a listen to a modern day Bull Connor, which is the Democrat mayor of the city of Denver. Give a listen to what he has to.
Say about civil disobedience. You've mentioned that a couple of times now. Would you be willing to participate in those as the mayor of Denver? Would you be willing to go out and protest these things?
I would if I believe that our residents are having their rights violate. If I think things are happening that are illegal or immoral or an American in our city, I would certainly protest it, and I would expect other residents would do the same.
Trump's new borders are. Tom Homan has said that he is willing to arrest leaders like yourself for standing in the way of these policies that they want to enact. Would you be willing to go to jail for these things?
Yeah, I'm not afraid of that, and I'm also not seeking that. I think the goal is we want to be able to negotiate with reasonable people how to solve hard problems for publican and democratic presidence in the past have all tried to find solutions to these problems. President Reagan help people get access to work so they could stay and support themselves. Biden Harris worked on restricting entry at the border to close down There are a lot
of ways to approach this problem. We don't think it has to come to this, but yeah, I think when you look at Ralph Carr has always been one of my heroes. He was the governor who in the middle of the interment of Japanese Americans said this was the wrong thing to do, and he stood up. It was unpopular. People were mad at them about it. That was the
middle of wartime. If the president or any of his actors are going to do things that we think are illegal or immoral, or an American will stand up against those.
It's amazing how the law doesn't matter.
He just said, well, if it's the thing I think is immoral, then I'm going to just say I'm not going to follow the law. That's clearly and they want to become martyrs, they want to become famous. He's enjoying this moment. Please put me in handcuffs, make me a martyr. And I'm saying that we are still a sanctuary city.
So understand, the mayor of Denver is the modern day Bull Conner. He is standing at the courthouse saying I will block federal law. I will not follow federal law because my politics, my prejudices. It's interesting he referenced Japanese internment camps. Who was it that ordered Japanese internment camps? That was a Democrat president.
Fdr.
You want to talk about patterns of lawlessness, The Democrat Party has over a century of history of lawlessness.
And I'm going to call for something right now.
So the mayor of Denver is said, we want illegal immigrants in our city. We will fight to keep illegal immigrants in our city. I don't care that the voters don't want it. I don't care what federal law says. I don't care about the women being murdered, the women being raped, the children being assaulted. I'm going to call right now for Greg Abbott, the governor of Texas, for Ron de Santis, the governor of Florida, for any other red governor to start sending buses to Denver, Colorado. Mayor
of Denver wants illegal immigrants. Well, you know what, Joe Biden. One of the lies that mayor just said as well, Biden and Harris tightened the standards at the border. That is called a lie. They didn't tighten the standard, They open up the border. Texas is being invaded right now, and I'm going to urge the state government of Texas send every one of the illegals who comes into the state to Denver, Colorado, drop them off in front of the mayor's residence. He wants them there. He's willing to
go to jail to fight for them to be there. Fine, we will send you the Vennezuelan gang members to your city and let's see. You know, I'm going to predict right now the residents of Denver aren't going to like this. I'm going to predict right now.
When is a tipping point?
That was the question was going to ask you, because it is in Colorado where we've seen these gangs from Venezuela take over apartment complexes.
Aurora, Colorado.
And by the way, ABC, the corporate media just said, well, it was only a handful of apartment complex.
Well you know of them.
You know what, We'll send a few more and let us know when you would like us to stop because you're so proud see today's Democrat. They don't fight for American citizens, They fight for illegal immigrants. They fight for Venezuelan gang members. They want more of them there. Well, I'm happy to remove them from the state of Texas, to remove them from Florida, to remove them from other red states and guess what, they can all all learn to be ski pros.
Is it a real threat? And I'm not kidding when I say this, I mean it really. Is this a real threat to these mayors where they don't realize what's about to change because illegal immigrants are going to hear this through translation that if you're in a place that where they're starting to arrest people. Let's say you use Texas, Let's say you use Houston as a great example. Let's say that people actually are getting arrested in being deported and then.
You're like, we got to get out of here.
Is this not going to be one of the biggest backfires in modern political history where illegal imm're gonna say, hey, we hear that Denver and we have a video of the Denver mayor saying come here and you'll be safe, will protect you, and they get flooded, just like New York City and other sanctuary cities.
By the way, Denver is also one of the whitest cities in America. So you've got rich white liberals saying, come invade our city. We don't care if our families are at risk from violent criminals. It is an example the Democrats didn't learn anything from this election. They're not repentant. They didn't say, gosh, our first responsibility should be protect Americans, keep American family safe. No, they're doubling down on we are woke, here are roar.
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right now. Finally, Sata, this is a big one, and I worry more and more, especially over the last seventy two hours about this headline. And it is the question that a lot of Americans are asking, is Biden trying to start World War three just so that he can bog down a Trump agenda? They you know, they had Russian collusion in sixteen and the impeachment, and that was
how they wanted to bog down Donald Trump. But now we're seeing decisions that are being made, not that we're in their foreign policy for the last four years, only after they lost. It's like, hey, we're going to allow American missiles to go deep inside of Russia. We're gonna give the thumbs up to Ukraine to do that. And now we're hearing about we're going to have land mindes that we've been against for quite some time.
Yeah, we're going to send you those as well.
Two decisions that have played out in the last ten days. Number one, the Biden White House has signed off on Ukraine firing US made long range missiles directly into Russia, attacking Russia, attacking within the interior of Russia using American weapons. And number two, as you just noted the Biden administration signing off on sending anti personnel land mines to Ukraine again to use against Russian citizens. But one of the problems with land mines is they often stay buried and
they kill civilians for years or even decades later. And one thing you noted that I think was important during the entire course of this war, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris haven't signed off on either of these steps until right now. So before the election they didn't want to do so, when they would have owned any escalation that
came from it, they didn't give the green light. But after the election's over, after they're on the way out, it's like they're standing there pouring gasoline around the White House and looking for a match. I mean, they really are,
I think, trying to light things on fire. I got to say, as this news was breaking, I was on Trump Force one with President Trump flying down to Boka Chik in Brownsville, Texas for the SpaceX launch, and we were watching on TV the news about the Biden administration and what it was doing to deliberately escalate the war in Ukraine, the war with Russia. I got to say, every person on the plane, we were all shaking our
heads saying they're trying to start World War three. I mean, I mean that's it is deliberately trying to make things worse. And understand, we will see next year the war in Ukraine will be over and the war in Israel will be over both of those. Israel will defeat Hamas that is going to happen, and the war in Ukraine will end. It will end with some sort of negotiated settlement. I believe it will end with Russia losing, facing a serious loss,
but it will come to an end. And this Biden Whitehouse they don't want either of those outcomes to happen. And so these decisions I think are systematically designed to make it harder and harder and harder to end these wars. And they're incredibly irresponsible. It is the foreign policy equivalent of what they're doing on the border in both instances, trying to make it all as bad as possible before.
The new administration comes in.
Can we just go back to twenty sixteen and the narrative finally, which was Donald Trump is unhinged, Donald Trump is going to start World War three.
It was all over the news for weeks on end. Oh, this guy's unhinged. He's crazy.
He's got the nuclear codes, he's got the football right in the briefcase, and you can't trust him, and he's going to start war three and he's a threat to national security. He didn't start any wars. He didn't send land mines, by the way to the countries to use them. And now we have these decisions that are being made. Where is the international condination of this, Like it's been pretty quiet, like you would think a lot of people would be seeing it going America.
You don't need to be doing this. You certainly don't need to be sending land mines.
When this broke, I was googling news stories about trying to get current information. There was an article about a week ago that there was a landmine. And this is the reason why much the world says no to this. That was from World War two eighty years ago that blew up under a tarmac in Japan. It was an American land mine that was used during World War two. And that's how long these things can stay around. That's the reason why there's some people are like, hey, let's
not do this. If we like, let's dial this back and they're like, Yeah, this is a great idea. Let's just throw them out there to Ukraine. See what happens.
Well.
And I got to say, I'm not convinced that either Biden or Harris are the decision makers here. I think Kamala is on a beach somewhere in Hawaii and I have no indication that she is engaged in anything. And Joe Biden, who hell knows what he knows. I think this is the bitter partisans in the White House. I think this is the young apparatchicks who've been running the
federal government for four years. Anyway, I think this is Obama lashing out, and I think this is this team and his team, and I think there deliberately.
I think it is brazenly irresponsible.
It's called sabotage, and that is what they are trying to do on the way out.
And you know what, if you.
Prioritize the welfare of the United States of America, you wouldn't do this.
And look, and this was not their policy for the entire administration.
It is designed.
It is the equivalent of taking a pile of dog manure, putting it in a paper bag, lighting it on fire. Sticking it on someone's front door and ringing the doorbell. That's what they're trying to do to the incoming administration.
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