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Media Desperate To Hide Damning Testimony from Devon Archer-What You Need To Know

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Speaker 1

Welcome.

Speaker 2

It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. So nice to have you with us. After we had an abbreviated podcast yesterday, we're back up and running our I say two days ago, we're back up and running now. It never fails that you have technical issues on the biggest nights. But we got through it and we appreciate you guys listening to us today because we have a

lot to talk about with the Devon Archer issue. We first, obviously have to deal with the fact that yet again Donald Trump's being charged and arraigned on more charges against him. I want to get your reaction to that before we do a deep dive into the Devon Archer testimony before Congress.

Speaker 3

Well, this week is a huge week in terms of developments for the rule of law, developments for Joe Biden, developments for Hunter Biden, and developments for Donald Trump. This week, obviously, Donald Trump was indicted yet again a third time by Special Counsel Jack Smith. It is an indictment that I

believe is a political indictment. It is the latest man festation of the politicization of the Department of Justice, where the Democrats every time there are bad developments about Joe Biden, about Hunter Biden, they immediately turn around and try to overtake the news cycle with yet another attack on Donald Trump. And it is doing severe damage to the integrity of the Department of Justice.

Speaker 4

And listen.

Speaker 3

Actually, yesterday one of Trump's lawyers outside the courtroom expressed it really powerfully the shameless timing of each of these indictments.

Speaker 4

Give a listen.

Speaker 5

The fact that I am standing here for the third time in five months is not a coincidence. This is the Biden political law fair that we have seen time and time again. It is a deflection from everything that they have done. And if you don't believe me, look at the facts. On March seventeenth, accidentally admits that it was his laptop for health. The next day, Dan Alvin Bragg indicts President Trump. June, an FBI document is released showing that the Ukrainians paid the mind In crime family

millions and millions of dollars. The next day the mari Lago Raider and the Marilago indictment. Last week, Hunter Biden's Sweetheart plea deal fell through when the judge realized it had blanket immunity. The following day, a superseding indictment against Donald Trump. July thirty first, Devin Archer goes to testify in front of the House. That was only after they failed to put him in jail prior to the fact. What happens the next day, the January sixth indictment that.

Speaker 6

We're here for today. This is not a coincidence.

Speaker 7

This is election interference.

Speaker 5

At its finest against the leading candidate right now for president for either party.

Speaker 2

You hear that, and this is I'm so glad that the Trump team did this to remind people. We actually did this on the show Center just a couple of days ago. They're not even trying to hide how biased they are. It's like, all right, you do something exposing the Biden crime family. We're gonna put Donald Trump in prison for now, what is it, five hundred and seventy six years. I'm not exaggerating it. It's actually like pretty close to the number if he's found guilty on everything.

Speaker 1

They're not hiding it at all.

Speaker 4

But you can't understand.

Speaker 3

The objective is not to put Donald Trump in prison for a day. The objective Joe Biden's political objective, Merrick Garland's political objective Number one. They want Trump to win the primary, and they have recognized that every time they indict him, his numbers go up in the Republican primary.

Speaker 4

Umber two.

Speaker 3

The reason, one of the key reasons they want them to win the primary is they want in September and October of next year, right before election day. They want ideally multiple criminal trials ongoing. They want Trump being prosecuted. They want all of the headlines to be about anything other than the disastrous Joe Biden record. They don't want to talk about the chaos at our southern border and seven.

Speaker 4

Million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden.

Speaker 3

They don't want to talk about the train wreck that is Bidenomics, including seeing the US credit rating downgraded after Biden and the Democrats engaged in trillions of dollars of a reckless spending spree. They don't want to talk about rising crime rates because of their assault on law enforcement and police across this country. They don't want to talk about the disaster of foreign policy, including the largest land

war in Europe since World War Two. They don't want to talk about the shameful surrender to the Taliban and withdraw in Afghanistan. They don't I want to talk about how every enemy of America is stronger today and how Joe Biden has weakened and undermine our allies across the country. None of that do they want the conversation to be about. They want the conversation to be about today in the criminal trial against Donald Trump. Here's the horrible testimony we heard.

They believe that's how they win, and that We've talked a lot in this podcast about how the far left, what they accuse you of, is what they're doing that is an assault on democracy because they don't trust the voters. They don't want the voters to vote on Biden's record because if we vote on Biden's record, Biden loses. Instead, they want to use the Department of Justice to.

Speaker 4

Steal the election.

Speaker 3

And let's be clear, they're trying to steal it by dominating the headlines, by bringing the full force of the federal government to bring case after case after case and listen, we talked about on Wednesdays podcast how the objective of this latest indictment isn't to send Trump to jail. It is rather to bring this case before a DC jury

that is overwhelmingly Democrat, that overwhelmingly despises Donald Trump. They got lucky, and they got one of the most left wing, if not the most left wing, federal district judge in d C who presumably is going to rule against Trump over and over and over again. There's a very real possibility they get a guilty verdict from a DC jury, and in their perfect world, they'd like that guilty verdict maybe about October twentieth of next year. Would would be

the Democrat dreams scenario. Now they know full well if there is a guilty verdict, when that goes up on appeal and when it gets up to the Supreme Court, it is overwhelmingly likely to be thrown out. That this indictment is an indictment for challenging the results of an election, which you're entitled to do, which Democrats do after election after election after election. It's an indictment for engaging in free speech and Donald Trump's standing up and expressing his

views about voter fraud. It's an indictment saying it is criminal that he did not believe some of the advice he was given. You read the indictment and it's really laughable. It says, well, Trump knew his claims were false, because so and so told them they were false. Now, mind you, he had other people telling him they were true. And according to the Biden Department of Justice, if you pick the wrong person to listen to, that is now suddenly a criminal offense. This is election interference.

Speaker 4

It is also.

Speaker 3

Ongoing news management.

Speaker 4

And so we talked about.

Speaker 3

In Wednesday's pod how you and I sat down Tuesday afternoon to record Wednesday's pod and the entire topic was going to be about Devon Archer, that it was major news breaking, and as we were sitting down we were about to record it, we both got over our phones. Trump's notification I'm going to be indicted at five pm

to day and we're like, oh, never mind. And not only was it successful in clearing Devon Archer off of the six o'clock news on every station, which it probably would have done anyway, but it even cleared it off of this podcast, where we had to devote Wednesday's podcast to that indictment, which meant we didn't get to Devon Archer.

So what we're gonna do now, Listen, there's gonna be plenty of time and podcasts to come to analyze the legal issues in Trump Indictment number one Trump and Dita number two, Trump and Dictment number three Trump Indictment number four hundred and thirty six, all of the ones that are gonna bring There'll be plenty of time for that this part.

Speaker 1

There's gonna be a lot of that.

Speaker 2

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slash ben. Come with me and other listeners to Israel. Senator let's get into Devin Archer here, and when you look at his testimony, give me a couple of your big takeaways of what was said that was even shocking to you, Just an overall recap of how in saying his testimony actually was.

Speaker 3

Well, the biggest and most consequential thing that Devin Archer testified to is that Joe Biden has been lying to the American people for years, and the Biden White House has been lying to the American people for years. That when Joe Biden said he had never discussed any of Hunter's overseas business deals dealings with Hunter Biden, assuming Devin Archer is telling the truth, Joe Biden was flat out lying that he had had roughly twenty conversations that Devon

Archer was aware of. That is bombshell testimony because it goes right to the heart of Joe Biden's central defense that gosh, this was just Hunter doing his thing, it wasn't me, and listen, I think the best way to do this is to actually walk systematically through some of

the testimony. So Devn Archer met Hunter Biden sometime between two thousand and two thousand and four, and Devin Archer became involved in Bearisma in twenty fourteen when he joined the Barisma board and the relationship started when Mikolas Lochski and Vadam Posharski were on the target list of potential investors in a fund that was known as Rosemont Real

Estate Acquisition Fund one. He also confirmed that the former president of Poland, Alexander Kwasnyuski, joined the Barisma board, and notably, this same point was in the FD ten twenty three that the FBI prepared, So this is on one level

of concurrence between those two. Devin Archer described how he flew to Warsaw in March of twenty fourteen to meet with Kwasnyuski and to discuss Devin Archer's joining Barisma's board, and he said that he recalled Hunter Biden, referring to President Biden as quote my guy when shown the email he received from Hunter Biden on April twelfth. Now, now think about this for a second, Ben, have you ever referred to your dad as my guy?

Speaker 2

No, not once in my life, certainly not in the sense of like, hey, he's my guy that I'm selling it a hot to the highest bidder in the world.

Speaker 3

Right, Look, that's not normal. Daddy was Hunter's business. That's why he was my guy. I've lived fifty two years. I'm quite confident I've never referred to my father as my guy because that's not my business. That was Hunter's business. Devon Archer discussed Hunter talking about how bringing then Vice

President Biden. To be clear, Joe Biden was the sitting Vice president of the United States at that time, how bringing then Vice President Biden to Ukraine would add value in the eyes of Barisma, and Devin Archer described that as quote pretty obvious if you're you know, you're the son of a vice president. Now here's an exchange. The Majority Council the Republican Council asked Devon Archer the following. You keep saying the brand, but by brand you mean the Biden family.

Speaker 4

Correct Archer, Correct, Majority.

Speaker 3

Council, and that brand is what, in your opinion was the majority of what the value that was delivered from Hunter Biden to Barisma.

Speaker 4

Archer.

Speaker 3

I didn't say majority, but I wouldn't speculate on percentages, but I do think that was an element of it. Representative Andy Biggs chimes in, when you say Biden family, sorry to cut in here, I just want to get a clarification. You aren't talking about doctor Jill or anybody else. You're talking about Joe Biden. Is that fair to say?

Speaker 4

Archer? Yeah, that's fair to say.

Speaker 3

Listen, I think it's I don't think about it as you know Joe directly, but it's fair, that's fair to say obviously that brought the most value to the brand. So there's a reason that Joe Biden was my guide to Hunter, because Joe Biden was the brand that was being sold. All right, next exchange, Majority Council. That Hunter Biden was adding value that he was adding was in part, as you said, his family Archer. Uh huh, Majority Council. And so what is your basis for knowing that, Archer?

My basis for knowing that, Well, I think there was there are particular you know, objectives that Barisma was trying to accomplish, and a lot of it's about opening doors, you know, globally in DC, and I think that you know, that was the you know, and then obviously having those doors open, you know, sent the right signals you know, for Bearisma to you know, carry on its business and be successful. All right, here's the next conversation, Archer quote.

My only thought is that I think Borisma would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand attached to it. Now pause to think for a second. He just testified to Congress that Barisma the Ukrainian natural gas company owned by a corrupt Ukrainian oligark would have gone out of business if it didn't have the brand. What is the brand Joe Biden attached to it? So there's a reason they paid Hunter a million bucks a year because attaching Joe Biden's name to the company kept

the company solvent. Archer continues, that's my only honest opinion. But I have no basis for any never heard any conversations.

Speaker 4

And then.

Speaker 3

Then you see the Democrats jump in and Representative Goldman, and Goldman who was the lead lawyer for the Democrats and the Trump impeachments, and he's now a baby freshman Democrat representative from New York. He's decided his job is to be Hunter Biden's lawyer, and so he's jumping in.

Speaker 4

He says, what, but that's different than Joe Biden's.

Speaker 3

Action, because you know, Goldman's representative Goldman's job is to defend Joe Biden Hunter Biden. Archer goes, right, Goldman, you're just talking about that Hunter was on the board, Archer, right. And I think that's why Goldman and so Archer it was able to survive for as long as it did. Goldman by because of additional capital or Archer just because of the brand Goldman. Well, I don't understand. How does that have an impact?

Speaker 1

Archer?

Speaker 3

Well, the capabilities to navigate DC that they were able to, you know, basically be in the news cycle, and I think that preserved them from a you know, from a longevity standpoint. That's like, my honest, that's really what I think that That's like how I think holistically, Goldman. But how would that work, Archer? Because people would be intimidated to mess with them Goldman in what way?

Speaker 4

Archer? Legally? Goldman?

Speaker 3

Uh huh Archer. So on this line of questioning, I have no like proof, I have no nothing. All right, let's see though what he does have proof with here's another line of questioning. Majority Council, and I want to talk about the value going back to this, it would be the Spring of twenty fourteen Cafe Milano dinner.

Speaker 4

Archer.

Speaker 3

Uh huh, Spring of fourteen, Yeah, the first one Majority Council. And since we talked about it before the break, if you could just recap, could you say again who was there?

Speaker 1

Now?

Speaker 3

This Cafe Milano is the Sishi restaurant in DC, and there was a dinner. Here's Archer's answer. Archer, sure, Keynes, Rakashev, Kareem Massimov, Yolena Battterina, possibly Yuri Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, mind you, Joe Biden's the Vice President of the United States at the time, possibly Eric Schwerreen, Majority Council. The duration of the time that Joe Biden stayed there, you said you couldn't recall, but do you recall whether he had dinner or whether, oh, he had dinner. Yeah, Archer says,

I recall that he had dinner. It was a regular, not not a long dinner, but dinner. Majority Council. And so this dinner takes place in the spring of twenty fourteen, approximately. But then, do you recall getting a wire on February fourteenth of twenty fourteen from Yelena Batcherina for three point five million dollars to Rosemont Seneca Thornton Archer to Rosemont Seneca Thornton Majority Council. Yes, Archer, yes, and why I

remember that is from the other testimony. Yes, all right, so the Majority Council follows up on this Majority Council. There's a wire, an incoming wire to the Rosemont Seneca Bohai account for April twenty second of twenty fourteen for one hundred and forty two thy three hundred dollars. Soon thereafter there's an outgoing wire which appears to be the next day to a beneficiary of Schneider Nelson Motor for

this exact same amount. What was first off? Our understanding is that Novatas Holding PTE Limited is associated with Keynes rashikev Archer.

Speaker 4

That's my understanding.

Speaker 3

Why did Rosemont Seneca Bohai receive this one hundred and forty two thousand dollars payment from Rashakiv Archer? It was for a car majority council for Who's car? Archer for Hunter's car majority council. Was this a Porsche archer? It gets a little foggy here, but I believe it was a Fisker first and then a Porsche.

Speaker 1

But it was.

Speaker 3

Yes, it was majority council for an expensive car, archer for an expensive car.

Speaker 4

Yes.

Speaker 3

So, by the way, the brand is very profitable. I'm curious, Ben, you've lived for forty some odd years on planet Earth. Have you ever had Russians? Why are you one hundred and forty two thousand dollars to buy a a Porsche or a Fisker.

Speaker 2

No, and no one directly connected to Vladimir Putin who are best friends, and that's how they get their money.

Speaker 1

They're billions.

Speaker 2

And on top of the fact that center we've got to talk about this, they still have not been on the sanction While all these other Russian oligarchs have been sanctioned, she has not been sanctioned yet every time the sanctions lists come out. So if you want to know what you get for the money, the three and a half million, right or or the other money for the car, apparently this is what you get.

Speaker 3

So just to be clear, what you're saying is that Joe Biden is sanctioned numerous Russian oligarchs, and they happened to be the Russian oligarchs that didn't pay Hunter Biden millions of dollars, and he is not sanctioned other Russian oligarchs, and they happened to be the Russian oligarchs that did pay Hunter Biden millions of dollars or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Speaker 1

Is that yeah? I mean? And that's yes.

Speaker 2

And the suspicious activity reports, by the way back this up Alice Overtze Committee backs it up that you had three and the emails from from Joe Biden or say Hunter, Biden's laptop clearly showed three point five million was wired in February of twenty fourteen by the former First Lady at Moscow again, Yolena bad Arena, who attended at least at least that's the part here if I also find interesting at least one dinner with then Vice President Biden and his son and was in turn transferred to a

firm co owned by Archer and Hunter Biden after its initial receipt by an empty that Biden defenders had insisted was solely controlled by Devin Archer. So they also lied about who was controlling the money when it came in.

Speaker 4

It gets worse.

Speaker 3

Let's go through a little bit more of the testimony Majority Council. All right, let's move on to the second dinner, Archer, the second dinner Majority Counsel, the spring twenty fifteen Cafe Milana.

Speaker 4

Who was there? Archer?

Speaker 3

That dinner was I think we went over it before, but it was Vedam, It was Hunter, Joe, myself, Kareem massimof a Greek Orthodox priest, maybe someone from the World Food Program, majority counsel. And what did Joe do with that dinner? Did he have dinner? How long was he there, Archer? He had dinner. He had dinner. And there was on that one, I believe the first one was like a birthday dinner and the second was I think we were supposed to talk about the World Food Program.

Speaker 4

So there were some talk about.

Speaker 1

That, Yeah, just some some about it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, look, you know world food things like fancy sport cars for Hunter.

Speaker 4

Listen, crack cocaine's not going to buy itself.

Speaker 3

And by the way, neither is a fancy beach house in Delaware. Neither is a classic corvette that that takes money.

Speaker 1

All right there.

Speaker 2

Home renovations, don't forget about Homer renovations. Those are also very very important. And the Homer renovations apparently were flowing from Hunter Biden's bankcount for his dad's home in Delaware. And that's another part of this whole idea, like, oh, they never were funneling money to one another, or they never were a quote in business together, as the White

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All right, the next exchange gets even more damning. If that's possible, Majority Council, how many times would you say Hunter Biden put his father on speakerphone or referenced his father being on the phone in front of others who were either foreign investors or foreign nationals.

Speaker 4

Who is soliciting business.

Speaker 3

With or working with approximately Archer? Approximately the differentiation between investor and normal course of the day. You know, it's very hard to speculate on. But he they spoke every day. He acknowledged that they spoke every day, and he would, you know, he would sometimes make it a parent that he spoke to his dad, and sometimes he put him on speaker. But as far as quantifying the number, you know,

relative to investors, I don't know. Majority Council, not necessarily investors, but with people who Hunter Biden was trying to either get business with, or make contacts with, or add value to Archer in my ten in my whole partnership, maybe twenty times. Just stop there, right there, he said, twenty times Hunter Biden would put Joe Biden on the phone with people he was trying to get business with or

make contacts with or add value to Majority Council. And during those twenty times, did Hunter Biden ever place his dad on speakerphone?

Speaker 4

Archer?

Speaker 3

Yes, let's get a little more detail, Majority Council. But if I were to just call my dad right now and put him on speakerphone and we're in a professional business meeting here, would that be odd to you?

Speaker 4

Archer? Would that be odd to me? Majority Council?

Speaker 3

Yes, that would be odd if you called your dad right now, Majority Council. So there's a time and a place where it's professional to do.

Speaker 4

So excuse me.

Speaker 3

When you're in a personal meeting and you may call your dad or a family member if you're with family. But if you're in a professional meeting and you're meeting foreign business leaders or whoever it may be, and you just place your dad on speakerphone on the table, that's a little odd, isn't it?

Speaker 4

Archer?

Speaker 3

That is a little odd. I mean it's not odd. I mean it's quite obvious what we're talking around, Majority Council. So what are we talking about? You are talking around it, and so I'd like to get it out. What are we talking about here?

Speaker 4

Archer?

Speaker 3

That I think at the end of the day. Part of what was delivered is the brand. It's like anything, you know, if you're Jamie Diamond's son or any CEO, you know. I think that's what we're talking about here, is that there was brand being delivered along with other capabilities in reach. I think brand is the best way to describe it all. Right, Next exchange, Majority Council. Going back to the calls that Hunter Biden would put on

speakerphone with his father and others. Can you describe what the other people would say and if you can recall after Hunter Biden did that, because I'll tell you just from an everyday American, if someone put the vice president of the United States on the phone right in front of you, it'd be pretty impressive. Archer, Absolutely, Majority Counsel, And I would think there would be some sort of

reaction from those people. Archer, Yeah, I think everybody. I think everybody remains you know, cool and calm like it was, you know, and then probably called their friends and family and said they spoke to them. But you know, the reaction, I don't have any specifics of like people jumping up and giving high fives, but I think it was, you know, a signal that you know, they respected and thought was of value.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 3

Finally, three more lines of questioning where it concerned the objective to get help from DC conversation One Majority Council did during that I'll say, after dinner at the Four Seasons, did Mikolaslochevsky or Vadam ask Hunter Biden to make any phone calls?

Speaker 4

Archer?

Speaker 3

Yes, though I was not a party of that phone call. Majority Council, What was the request, Archer? The request was I think they were getting pressure and they requested Hunter, you know, help them with some of that pressure. Majority Council. What pressure Archer? Government, Government pressure on their you know, government pressure from Ukrainian government, investigations into Mikola, et cetera. But it was it was not it wasn't like a

specific not a specific request. It was just we were sitting there at the Four Seasons having you know, coffee, and there was there was Mikola, there was one of the managers for the Four Seasons who managed that property, Vadam. So it wasn't like a closed it wasn't like it was not like a specific meeting. Majority Council. When you say pressure from the government at this time, were you aware that Victor Choken was investigating Barisma. Archer to the

best I vaguely whether it was Shoken, I vaguely. There was a lot of pressure initially there was. There was several pressure issues. It was kind of a theme of Barisma. There was capital tied up in London twenty three million pounds that there was, you know, a US visa denied and the visa Bexco visa denied, and then there was so Shoken wasn't specifically on my radar as being an individual that was targeting him. But yes, there was constant pressure and it was like it was like whack a

mole in regards to the pressure. As they had to resolve this point. Congressman Jim Jordan jumps in the request from mister for Mikolis Lochski and Vadam to mister Biden and or if you said it was to you, the request was for help from whom to deal with what pressure?

Speaker 4

Archer.

Speaker 3

The request, you know, basically the request is like can d C help? But there were not you know, I'm not going to there was not. It wasn't like there weren't specific you know, can the big guy help. It was always this amorphous can we get help in DC? Representative Jordan quest was help from the United States government to deal with the pressure that they were under from their prosecutor, and that entailed the freezing of assets at the London Bank and other things that were going on

in Ukraine. Archer correct, all right. Conversation number two, Representative Andy Biggs. So why do you think they were asking Hunter Biden for DC help?

Speaker 4

Archer?

Speaker 3

I mean why, Representative Biggs? I mean, I mean, what did you take away from that?

Speaker 4

Archer?

Speaker 3

Well, I mean he was a lobbyist and an expert, and obviously he carried, you know, a very powerful name, so I think it was that's what they were asking for.

Speaker 2

This is when you hear it the way you're describing it, Senator, I think most people, and this is something, by the way, you're not going to hear anywhere else because they don't have the time, or they don't want to take the time, or they don't want to tell you this story. You

hear this testimony and it's so damning. It's also so condescending to the American people that this is allowed to happen in this country by the President of the United States of America, who was selling the United States of America out to the highest corrupt binner, which was also in many ways a shockingly low amount of money that you could buy a vice president.

Speaker 1

For a million here, two million here from a million here.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's true. That's valid point. I apologize to all Porsche drivers out there, but it's it's amazing that this is happening. And I have to go back real quick center and play this because when all this came out that you just read, the media when to full blown cover their ABS's the White House, the president, their own.

Speaker 3

Oh come come on, Ben, why would you call it a cover up. It's not like they turned around and indicted Donald Trump or anything.

Speaker 1

That's true.

Speaker 2

Good point, But they did go on TV and they did say over and over again that it's quote normal for you to have your dad kind of juice your business with your context. Here is just some of the media saying this right after this testimony.

Speaker 8

Nothing not even approximating improper, much less wrong or illegal.

Speaker 4

It's wishful thinking. They're trying to create a scandal.

Speaker 9

Think it pretty clear, at least so far, there is nothing there.

Speaker 7

House Republicans continue their search for any proof at all tying President Joe Biden to his son Hunter's business dealings.

Speaker 8

Joe Biden had nothing to do with Hunter Biden's business dealings.

Speaker 10

Because they wanted they wanted dirty of Biden's name.

Speaker 8

Do you know Republicans have been trying to use Hunter Biden's behavior against the President. Did not know about anything that Hunter Biden was doing.

Speaker 11

See, Biden was simply involved in his son's life in a personal capacity. City Republicans from consistently trying to make this argument and create the illusion of some malfeasans being there.

Speaker 8

Spoke to business associates of Hunter Biden to say hello, to have small talk, casual conversation.

Speaker 6

Hunter Biden talked to his dad on the phone all the time. They talked basically every day. Sometimes Joe Biden would say hello to the people in the room if he popped in or on the phone.

Speaker 4

Whatever I saw.

Speaker 8

Casual conversation, nice cities, the weather. They never discussed the business.

Speaker 7

These were more of just cordial hello types of conversations.

Speaker 5

Business was never discussed on those calls, and there was more casual sort of check ins, casual conversations.

Speaker 9

President Biden might have said, hey, putting me on speakerphone. You know, are you having a business meeting, like, what is that about? But the hang up on your front on your side.

Speaker 8

Boe Biden, Hunter's brother and President Biden's son was very ill with cancer and then passed away. That as a witness today testified was what these conversations and these calls were about.

Speaker 6

And we should put this in context.

Speaker 8

This is a time when bo Biden, the President's other son was ill and then dying and then passed away.

Speaker 9

Very fraud and sad time for the Biden family, and we know how important family is to the president.

Speaker 7

They're doing Donald Trump's bitting, going after Hunter Biden, trying to create a tie to the president.

Speaker 6

This is a this is a political move here, it is.

Speaker 9

It is a.

Speaker 6

Politics thing, right inasmuch as it's anything else fair?

Speaker 3

Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 7

It does not appear to have been a direct business tie, is right now.

Speaker 3

You don't see any conduct that's illegal that there is regulational law that's prohibiting it, even though it might be highly unethical.

Speaker 8

I don't see high crimes, and mister readers, I don't even see a low crime.

Speaker 9

I see a son who's using his father, people.

Speaker 10

With famous laugh names, using them for their own purposes. People in your families, they're near do well. This is as old as tie.

Speaker 2

It's not old as time sentator and as James Comer said, it was influence pedaling they sold Joe Biden, and Joe Biden himself talked to every single person that has wired money to the Bidens. That's James Comer's exact quote, and the entire media apparatus is saying. It is just normal for you to call your dad and to talk to your dad, and then they just happen to be sitting with every Again, I love this line from James Comer.

They Joe Biden himself talked to every single person that has wired money to the Bidens.

Speaker 3

Well, you know, I got to say that that clown parade that you just played every person on it should if there was a card to be a journalist, they should hand in their cards. They don't get to pretend to be journalists anymore. They are propagandists, they are cheerleaders, they are professional liars for the White House. This is normal. Nothing to see, you know, one of them. This isn't a high crime and mystermeter. It's not even a low

crime or misdemeanter. No Let's be clear, getting paid five million dollars or ten million dollars five to you and five year son for official favors when you're vice president of the United States, that's bribery. Bribery is in fact a high crime or misdemeanor. The Constitution says you can be in peach for trees and bribery or other high crimes are misdemeanors. So both trees in bribery are in fact high crimes are misdemeanors. But bribery is explicitly enumerated.

And every one of those clowns is ignoring the fact that Devin Archer, if what he has said is true, testified that Joe Biden has been lying for years and brazenly lying. Never talk, never talk, never talk, never once talked to Hunter about any of his business dealings. Well, yeah, sat down at Cafe Milano with like every corrupt Russian and Ukrainian you could find. I mean, like, holy cow.

You know, it's one thing. Listen, there are lots of people in Washington who have a nar to well kid who goes and is a lobbyist for some big company and is selling influence on K Street. Sadly, that is quite common. I'll tell you what's not common is going and seeking out the Chinese communists, going and seeking out corrupt oligarchs, going and seeking out enemies of America and

shaking them down for millions of dollars. And to be clear, look, Devon's Archer testimony makes clear Hunter Biden didn't know a damn thing about baris Me. He didn't know a damn thing about oil and gas. He didn't know a damn thing about Ukraine. He couldn't speak Ukrainian. His value was one value only that he could dial up the phone and get Joe on the phone, and Joe would take the call and jump on the speaker phone and then act.

And let's let's remember what a bribe is, quid pro quo, the phrase the Democrats made famous in the first impeachment trial of Trump. This for that, the FD ten twenty three and Devon Archer's testimony both indicate that Barissma wanted help with the government pre pressure from Ukraine, specifically the prosecutor Victor Shoken that was going after him, that had frozen the oligarch's assets.

Speaker 4

And we know that the quote happened.

Speaker 3

We know that Joe Biden went to Ukraine and held up a billion dollars in federal government loan guarantees until the Ukrainian president fired that prosecutor. Joe Biden in the famous Son of a Bitch interview, has bragged about that. So the quote part is undisputed and it's admitted. The only part that is even slightly in dispute is the quid part was in fact five million dollars paid to one hundred and five million dollars paid to Joe in exchange for that. If the answer to that is yes, then

Joe Biden is guilty of bribery. And every one of those clowns desperately wants to cover that up because they're they're not even pretending to be journalists anymore.

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Speaker 1

Senator.

Speaker 2

Lastly, Michael Reagan put out a very interesting tweet, Michael Reagan's run Reagan's son. He said, quote, in the eight years that my father was President of the United States, I never once set in the room with business associates and called him on the phone. If I had, the Democrats would have skewered me. He's absolutely right, and the media and then they would have tried to impeach Ronald Reagan.

I'm sure if that would have been the case. And I think Ronald Reagan's point is, look, just how much has changed in this country from when we had a free press compared to the socialist press we have now and what you can now get away with that no one could have gotten away with back in the eighties or the nineties or even the early two thousands.

Speaker 4

Look, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3

And it's worth understanding that the objective of the Democrats, the objective of the Biden DOJ, the objective of the corporate media, it's all the same, which is to protect the big guy, to protect Joe Biden. We've talked at length on this podcast about how Hunter Biden's personal troubles, his substance abuse. This is a troubled soul. That's not an issue of national news. If he were just another guy struggling with his demons.

Speaker 4

Okay, there are lots of people who deal with that.

Speaker 3

The reason this is an issue of public concern is it directly implicates official corruption by the then vice president of the United States and the current president of the United States, and Joe Biden is complicit. He is an active participant.

Speaker 4

You know.

Speaker 3

One of the exchanges, I think it was Eugene Robinson, who's on Morning, Joe is saying, well, gosh, Joe might have said, well, well, why do you keep putting me on the phone?

Speaker 1

Stop that.

Speaker 3

Well, Joe didn't say that, because when it happens over and over and over again, Joe's not a moron. He understands why Hunter Biden is putting him on the phone with these oligarchs, with these people who are paying his son millions of dollars. And by the way, it's not just getting on the phone. He goes to these dinners

at Cafe Milano, where they're all sitting there. I mean, he understands full well this is business generation, and it's business generation where they're seeking very specific favors from Joe Biden in his official capacity. Remember the WhatsApp encrypted message where he said, I'm sitting here next to my father and if you don't pay me the money, my father, I don't have the language right in front of me, but will punish the living daylights.

Speaker 4

Out of you. To paraphrase it roughly, it.

Speaker 3

Was very clear Hunter was selling carrot and stick. The carrot is pay me and Daddy.

Speaker 4

Will do favors for you.

Speaker 3

The stick was don't pay me, and Daddy will harm you using the official power of government. If that is in fact what happened, and every day the evidence is making it more and more likely that is what happened. That is the very essence of corruption. And I want everyone just to ask yourself something. So for the bulk of this podcast, what we did is I simp read excerpts from Devin Archer's testament. By the way, the full transcripts much longer than that. I just just selected some

key excerpts that were particularly newsworthy. I want you to ask yourself, did you read any of these excerpts in the newspaper. Did you see any of these excerpts on the six o'clock news? Did you see any of them on CNN or MSNBC, Now that they don't cover actual news, but I guarantee you you saw all of them hyperventilating with joy about yet another indictment of Donald Trump. Every one of those journalists should be ashamed because they're no longer practicing journalism.

Speaker 2

Yeah, journalism is dead in this country, There's no doubt about it. Don't forget to go back and listen to our last show. We're going to keep covering this. We will also cover more on the Trump indictments, but this Devin Archer testimony is something they want to push out of the headlines. We refuse to let that happen. So share this on social media with your family and friends.

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