Major Hostage Deal: 50 Israeli Women & Children to be Freed, but Hamas Given Time and Fuel to Rebuild, plus Biden's Woke War on 'Racist Roads' - podcast episode cover

Major Hostage Deal: 50 Israeli Women & Children to be Freed, but Hamas Given Time and Fuel to Rebuild, plus Biden's Woke War on 'Racist Roads'

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Speaker 1

Welcome.

Speaker 2

It is verdict of Center Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you. Obviously, many of you are going to be on the road as you're listening to this. Be safe with your family over Thanksgiving. And there is some good news. There are is a ceasefire that has been announced. Israel has approved a ceasefire with Hamas. We're being told that fifty hostages are set to be released. Senator, this is obviously a significant movement. They're saying it would be a five day ceasefire. Tell us everything that you know.

Speaker 3

Well, the Israeli cabinet announced this yesterday and it is a deal that they have negotiated with Hamas that Hamas has committed to releasing fifty hostages, women and children. Israelis that they captured and that's reason to celebrate. I have to tell you I have sat down with multiple family members of hostages who were taken in Israel, and it

is truly horrific. Over two hundred hostages were taken and every one of them right now is praying that their loved ones, that their wives, their mothers, their daughters, their children are among the fifty.

Speaker 1

That are set to be released. That is a big deal.

Speaker 3

Now, the Israeli war cabinet debated for five hours about whether to do this, and the reason they debated for five hours is any time that you are negotiating in exchange for hostages, you are giving up significant things, and that there are serious downsides to this deal. But the Israeli government has decided it's in their interest to make

this deal. The downsides are as follows number one, and in exchange for the fifty hostages being released, Israel has apparently committed to releasing one hundred and fifty Palestinians that are in jail, and according to the terms of the agreement, the Palestinians being least are also women and children. Now, on the face of it, Israel doesn't take hostages, so these are not civilians that were taken as hostages, but rather they are criminals who were arrested for committing crimes,

and presumably crimes directly related to terrorism. And so even though they are described as children, we have not as have yet seen the list of the one hundred and fifty Palestinians to be released, and Hamas with regularity, uses teenagers uses sixteen seventeen year olds to commit acts of terrorism, so it is entirely possible that among those one hundred and fifty being released are a number of people who have been terrorist and who, upon being released, will return

to being terrorist fighting with Hamas. We don't know that for sure, but that is a very likely risk. In addition, under the terms of the agreement, Israel is engaging in a four day pause in fighting in Gaza, and so it is stopping. Israel has been making major advances in Gaza working to eliminate Hamas. The four day pause is going to give Hamas time to restock, time to rebuild, time to get stronger. And as a component of this deal, Israel agreed to allow roughly three hundred AID trucks per

day into Gaza from Egypt. Now included in those AID trucks will be fuel trucks, and that fuel will be

a significant benefit for Hamas. Hamas. Right now, many of the Hamas terrorists are are hiding in tunnels in Gaza, and those tunnels are are kept lighted and kept ventilated using generators, and so they need the fuel to stay in the tunnels to evade capture, to an evade being taken out by the Israeli military, and so allowing that much fuel to flow into Gaza enables Hamas to be stronger, and so the consequence of this is it is going

to be more difficult to follow through on Israel's stated commitment, a commitment that I believe is critical that they follow through on to utterly eliminate Hamas because Hamas will become stronger. But that being said, fifty hostages coming home is a big, big deal, and so we should celebrate fifty hostages coming home.

Speaker 2

When you talk about what this means for the future, there's going to be some people that are going to be very concerned over Okay, does this incentivize terrorist organizations, not just Hamas but others to start taking hostages because then you can use them to your advantage in the future. When you know we've had a quote unquote policy if we do not negotiate with hostages and with terrorists. Yet clearly this administration and Biden administration has done that. We

saw it with Iran. We've also seen it with what happened in Russia. For example, when we decided that we would get back a NBA player but leave another man over in Russia in that trade for the merchant of death. This concerns me obviously from that perspective, from a national security standpoint, for Americans, your reaction from that perspective.

Speaker 3

So, look, of course, it incentivizes the taking of hostages. And one of the tragedies this is what happens when terrorists take hostages, is that it forces individuals and families. It forces countries to make bad decisions and to make sometimes terrible deals. Now, sometimes the deals are really terrible, such as the Biden administration giving six billion dollars for five American hostages, basically setting a bounty of one point

two billion dollars per American you take hostage. We don't know if among these these fifty hostages being released, if any of them are Americans. We do know that Hamas on October seventh, and in the aftermath of it, murdered thirty one Americans. We know roughly a dozen Americans are held hostage. We don't know if any of these hostages being released are Americans. But yes, and and and I will say, look, Israel has has been in this situation before.

When you when you're fighting terrorists and they're taking hostages, Israel is engaged in hostage negotiations. Israel is engaged in prisoner exchanges before and then that's part of being a nation at war. But I'm sure it is why the Israeli War Cabinet debated and debated for five hours and and and I'm sure this was not an easy decision, uh And and it was not an easy decision because because it does incentivize it does incentivize the taking of hostages.

In terms of the war cabinet, only three members of the War Cabinet voted no. They were all ministers of the Jewish Power Party, which is which is in Israeli politics on the far right. There were another three ministers of the religious Religious Zionist Party who before the meeting said they were going to vote no, and they changed their position after hearing from the heads of the security

services who recommended approving the deal. And and and I know everyone in the Israeli government wrestled with this because, as I said, this will may come as stronger. That is a bad thing. But when fifty women and children come home and hug their moms and dads, and hug their brothers and sisters and and and hug their their their husbands, that is an incredible thing. And that that

that is worth celebrating now. At the same time, while we are celebrating the return of fifty hostages, we need to remember that there are between one hundred and fifty and two hundred additional hostages that are still being held. And Prime Minister net Yahoo has said that if Hamas continues releasing hostages that he will extend the pause in the invasion of Gaza, and he will extend it at

a rate of ten hostages per day. So Hamas can buy additional time by releasing hostages, and there's a trade off. That's a horrible trade off, but it's worth remembering. Ben Israel laid out two objectives in the days immediately following October seventh. Number one was get the hostages back, get them home, and this accomplishes a significant step towards that there are still far too many hostages, but fifty hostages coming home is a major step forward. But secondly, Israel

pledged to utterly and completely eliminate Hamas. That was the right thing to do, and I will say I very much hope that as this deal goes into effect that we know we will see the global community and all of the left and all of the global press and all of the the woke press leaning on Israel not to resume the invasion of Gaza, not to resume trying to take out Hamas. And I very much fear the Biden White House will will be the loudest among those

voices saying okay, enough, don't go after Hamas anymore. And I think it will be incumbent on all of us to say, once the four day agreed period is over, once Amasa is stopped releasing hostages, Israel needs to finish the taskt set out of eliminating Hamas.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Was that coming from the Israeli side? Do we know that?

Speaker 2

And then what is the total number of American hostages at this point, what is that number count that we have so far that are still waiting.

Speaker 3

So on the second point, we don't have a firm number. We know thirty one Americans were killed. We believe roughly a dozen Americans were taken hostage. To date, four hostages have been released, two of them were Americans, two of them were Israelis. So we assume there are about ten American hostages still in captivity. Some of them may be killed.

We don't know the status of them, and we don't have an exact count, but it is in It is in the range of ten American hostages and two who have already been released and thirty one who were murdered on October seventh.

Speaker 2

Well, I want to ask you also about some of the videos that have been coming out, and I think it's really important that we highlight this because so many center in the media have been refusing to talk about this. And that is the extensive tunnel system that now clearly is under the hospital in Gaza. And also now we know that some of these hostages were taken to that

hospital after they were taken hostage. It is very clear, it's obvious that this hospital in Gaza that everyone had heard about the apparently Israel bomb which didn't actually happen, has clearly been used in essence like a base for

hamas a human shield for Hamas. And the tunnel system which they have now been able to find that is going in and out that hospital is incredibly an intensive underground network, and some of this fuel, like you mentioned, goes directly to turning those lights on in the ventilation of that tunnel system which Israel has found and is obviously trying to get rid of.

Speaker 3

That is exactly right. And listen, this has been a point that has been true for a long time. In fact, nine years ago in twenty fourteen, I wrote an op ed that was entitled a Tale of two hospitals, one in Israel, one in Gaza, and I'll read you the beginning of that op ed I wrote on July thirtieth, or twenty fourteen. If you want to judge a nation,

look at how it treats its most vulnerable civilians. Hospitals are a good place to Startah the largest hospital in Gaza is housed in a converted British Army barracks, some one hundred and twenty six miles north is Israel's Ziv Medical Center in Zafat. Hamas, which controls Gaza, is using the civilian population as human shields. The terrorist group has placed its missiles in schools and mosques, and even more deplorably burrowed its command center underneath the Al Shifa hospital.

Hamas's activities are taking place in plain sight. Just two weeks ago, and mind you, this was back in twenty fourteen, the Washington Post described Al Shifa as a quote de facto headquarters for Hamas leaders. These terrorist facilities are of course well known not only to the foreign journalists who interview Hamas fighters there, but also to the Israelis, who would by necessity consider such a location a legitimate target

for any action against Hamas. However, the terrorist group has tried to immunize their headquarters by digging it under a hospital, leaving Israel no option but to target Al Shifa if they want to get rid of the Hamas terrorist leadership. Now, as you noted, we've seen those videos. Now it's that same hospital Al Shifa, and we've now seen the videos of the tunnels going under that hospital. And they do it deliberately because they're trying to place the IDF in

an impossible choice. Either you don't target the headquarters, in which case the terrorists continue to flourish and wage war and plot murder of civilians, or the IDF does target the headquarters, and if they did it using bombs, the result would be hundreds of dead Palestinians, the women and children who are patients in the hospital that Hamas is

using as human shields. What happened Israel did not bomb the hospital, but the IDF forces have gone in the ground forces and they've exposed the headquarters that was there. And that's precisely how Hamas uses Palestinians, hoping that they will be casualties of war, because they then know that the useful idiots in the media will use those casualties of war to demonize and undermine the state of Israel.

Speaker 2

When you look at moving forward with this war, it seems to me, and I may be wrong, but it seems like we are far from the end of this and that's because of Israel's stated objective and that doesn't seem to be changing because of this hostage negotiation. This ceased fire for four days, and again you mentioned earlier, you can extend that by releasing ten more hostages each day if Hamas wants to do that. Obviously, Hamas is going to use this time, as you say, to basically

replenish their supplies and reorganize. And that's bad for Israel, that's bad for anyone that agreees that terrorism is wrong and evil. But you look at the reality of this, there is still a lot that has to be accomplished to get rid of Hamas, and the words of Netanyahu, they're not going to stop until this is over. I think people need to kind of have a mentality of this isn't a week away from finishing or two weeks away.

This is still going to take some time. This is dismantling a massive terrorist organization.

Speaker 3

Yeah, in all likelihood, this war is going to take a matter of months. It's going to be an extended operation, in particular because Hamas is burrowed in. It's burrowed in in the midst of civilian targets. They deliberately are in hospitals, they deliberately are in schools, they are deliberately in the tunnels. And as a result of three hundred trucks a day coming in, including fuel trucks, they're going to replenish their fuel supplies, which means they can stay in the underground tunnel.

Some of the tunnels the Israelis have discovered, others they have not. It's very hard to locate a tunnel that is buried underneath a dense urban environment. We also know that in the coming days and weeks, we're going to

see continued propaganda. You know, one episode we did of Verdict last week, we show this was one of the video episodes that we did on YouTube, and we showed video of an individual that appears to be a crisis actor, and there are multiple instances of him essentially working for Hamas and pretending to be all sorts of different characters in Gaza, from hospital workers to an injured person to

a dead person. And he's put out multiple videos where he miraculously is pushing forward the Hamas propaganda in every instance. And he put out the raw footage that was designed to show the horrible atrocities carried out by the Israelis. And as we pointed out, multiple news entities including CBS picked up his footage and ran at his news and they just identified the source as quote social media. It's not difficult to find out that this guy is widely

considered a fraud online. But yet the narrative fit the story that CBS and and the fake media wanted to tell. And one of the astonishing aftermaths of that is after we put out our verdict, YouTube censored our podcast. And in particular, if you want to watch that episode, if you just try to click on YouTube and you're not logged in, it will not let you watch that episode.

It said you must sign in and you must give your age, so if you're under eighteen, you're not allowed to give it to watch that episode, and it gives a warning of graphic content and listen. The result of that is substantially throttling the number of people who can

see that episode. And it is an instance, it is a powerful instance of what I talk about in my new book that just came out on Woke, how to defeat the cultural Marxism in America, where you have big tech shilling for the corporate media, because neither big tech nor the corporate media wants you to know that they are disseminating false propaganda. And this is an example of the corruption we see. By the way YouTube to date still hasn't fixed it, so it is right now age

gated on YouTube. The irony is they claim it's violent content. We're literally showing a CBS News broadcast. I don't think they agegate CBS News. And in fact, the content, by all appearances, appears to be fake. So it is fake violence that happen to be shown on CBS News that CBS News won't admit is likely fake. And yet YouTube says we're going to live with the number of people who can see this.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's amazing.

Speaker 2

When this happened, you and I were texting each other and honestly in shock.

Speaker 1

It was like, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2

We're exposing this and now they want to just silence, shut it down and act like it never happened. You can grab that episode on YouTube and share it. Make sure you share it and log in and so you can see what we expose and just how much the left will throttle things if they don't want to get out there.

Speaker 1

This is a perfect example of it.

Speaker 3

And Ben, you know, it's striking. We've been doing Verdict now for several years. This is the first instance that YouTube has stepped forward and blocked our content. So we've talked about COVID. At the early parts of COVID, we laid out in Verdict in this podcast evidence that the COVID virus escaped from a Chinese lab from the Wuhan Institute for Virology. This was the same time that Twitter

and Facebook were suppressing anyone making that point. For whatever reason, YouTube did not block our early podcast even though we were getting a lot of viewers that were watching it. And we've talked a lot about taking on the corruption of Washington, and every every episode we've done it says

something that this is the first one they blocked. And I think it's the combination that big tech is all in with the corporate media in driving their cultural Marxist narrative that Israel are the bad guys and the Hamas terrorists are the oppressed victims, and anything that gets away in the way of that narrative, they're more than willing

to abuse their power. It relates to, you know, the same episode we talked about TikTok and the trending videos on tik tac of young people praising Osama bin Laden, which sadly the CCP is aggressively pushing. On one level, you can understand why the Chinese communists are doing that. How harmful that is. But YouTube is ostensibly an American country company. Why is YouTube doing that?

Speaker 2

Yeah, And the question you have to ask is is it just because they want to silence and censor respeech and specifically do they want to censor views they disagree with. That's my takeaway from this because I don't believe that this was an accident at all. This was us taking a stand, showing people what's happening and letting people know that there are these crisis actors on the side of the terraces that are working for hamas and they can't stand for that narrative to get out there.

Speaker 3

Well, if it was an accident, it is possible that their algorithms flagged it because it is images that are purported, although we believe these are fake images purported to be of people with what appears to be blood on them, screaming after a rocket attack. Now, as I said, CBS News aired it, and and oddly enough, YouTube doesn't block CBS News. But I could envision an algorithm that captured someone's screaming covered with blood and blocks it initially. But

this is at the point. Now it's been some time, there been multiple news stories on this, and if it were caught initially by the algorithm, a human being could correct it. And so whether a human being decided at the outset nope, I don't want this to be seen, or whether the algorithm decided at the outset and a human being just said nope, we're not going to correct it. Either way, YouTube and Google which owns YouTube, have culpability for it.

Speaker 2

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going to spend time with their family over Thanksgiving. And there is something that happened this week that people I'm sure missed, and that is Biden's infrastructure spending has now gone woke. It's a great moment to pause and remind people. If you're Black Friday shopping, grab the Center's new book, Unwoke.

Speaker 1

You can grab it. It's a best seller.

Speaker 2

You can get on Amazon or wherever you get your books, unless you're a bookstore in California. Apparently they don't like it very much out there in California in the bookstores. But you can grab it wherever you get your books. I love this part of censorship. By the way Center. There are quite a few bookstores. I've actually talked to

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Speaker 3

Well, it is one of the many examples how corporate America is woke.

Speaker 1

As you know.

Speaker 3

Two weeks ago, I was in LA to shoot Bill Maher and talk about the book, and I actually met some friends in LA who went to try to buy the book. And they went to a Barnes and Noble in LA and they didn't have a single copy of the book there, and they asked them, okay, search the system, and they it turned out there was not one copy of my book. This is what they were told in any Barnes and Noble in the entire city of Los Angeles.

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it is a best seller. It was at the top of the best seller list. And yet the major bricks and mortar retail outlets are very reluctant to carry it. And when they do carry it, they certainly don't put it out on the table in front. They put it off in the back. The good news is you can order it online, so I would encourage you go online

and order it. And you mentioned what came out this past week, and what came out this past week also is is racist roads and woke infrastructure, which may sound absurd, but it's something I discuss at considerable length in the book on Woke and In June, Transportation Secretary Pete bootage Edge announced that the Department of Transportation it started accepting applications for the National Infrastructure Project Assistance, Infrastructure for Rebuilding America,

and the Rural Surface Transportation Grant Programs. These three programs together received five point six billion dollars under the so called Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and the Department of Transportation under bodhage Edge said the grants that would be awarded would support quote transformational infrastructure projects across the nation. But the Notice of funding opportunity issued states that recipients

must broadly address quote equity and climate concerns. And further, it says, quote projects that have not sufficiently considered the equity and barriers to opportunity in their planning as determined by the Department, will be required to do so before receiving funds for construction. Quote. Projects that have not sufficiently considered climate change and environmental justice in their planning, as determined by the Department, will be required to do so

before receiving funds for construction. Now, mind you, what they're saying is if you're actually building roads, if you're actually building freeways, then that is not sufficient. And in fact, Pete buddhage Edge made news in twenty twenty one when he said, quote there is racism physically built into some of our high way ways. Now. Now, now that is idiotic. And and I would note that that that the DOT grants also additionally target so DOT policies frame road building.

Here's what they call roadbuilding quote increasing automobile dependence, and so they condemn highway expansion projects that don't involve electric vehicle charging stations or bike lane. So it is Remember there was a lot of hooplah over all the money to be spent on infrastructure and roads and bridges. Oh yeah, Well, it turns out Joe Biden and Kamala Harrison, Pete Budah Jedge don't actually want roads and bridges. Instead, they have

a woke agenda. No, here's the good news, which is that that I sent I sent a request for a determination as to whether this this announcement constitutes a rule. Uh, and receive that determination, which means that it is subject to being overturned by Congress by a simple majority vote. And so I intend to introduce that resolution of disapproval to force a vote in the Senate. Now Biden can

veto that vote. But in the Senate, we're going to see if all the people who trumpeted the infrastructure programs support blocking them from going to roads and bridges unless they are sufficiently woke and fighting racist roads, whatever the hell that is.

Speaker 2

When people hear this and they hear racist roads as you just described it there, and you talk about billions upon billions of taxpayers dollars that's meant for these infrastructure projects that are now just being turned in these woken agenda items. How many members of Congress are behind this as well? Because yes, it's a Biden administration initiative, but you're still got to have some Congress people behind you.

Is this just the part of now where we are in politics, where they look at you, they'll say this is for infrastructure, straight up, wye to you, and then waste billions of your dollars on woke agenda items like this.

Speaker 3

Well, listen, a lot of the left wing Democrats in Congress are emphatically behind this, so that Bernie Sanders, the Elizabeth Warrens, theoc's are cheering this on because this is the agenda they want. I will say there are a number of Republicans who you know, are a little bit like Charlie Brown with Lucy and the football. They listen to Democrats who say, okay, let's work together on something like roads and bridges, and the Republicans are like, oh

yea yeah, roads and bridges. Those sound really good, and they right into law funding for roads and bridges. Now, the left wing Democrats they're negotiating with know fully well, they're pulling the football away and Charlie Brown is landing on his ass. They know that, but these Republicans are just gullible and they fall into it over and over

and over again. And if they weren't going, they would have written into the statute prohibitions on the Biden administration doing this, because you and I knew the Biden administration was going to do this, because that's who they are. They are cultural Marxist. It's why I wrote the book Unwoke to lay out what it means the radicals who

have taken over our government. And we have too many Republicans in Congress who are fundamentally naive, and they just keep running and trying to kick that football, and the problem keeps getting worse and worse.

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It's been a blast, but we have really seen significant growth from this audience who has just gotten behind this show and is helping spread the word of what we say and putting this on social media.

Speaker 1

I mean this sincerely.

Speaker 2

Without the audience, neither of us would be spending as much time in as many late nights as we are doing this. This is add on to the incredible job you're doing as a US center. This is a year that's going to be so important with this election cycle coming up as well. And I am very thankful for the vertic listeners that have just been amazing ambassadors for the show and bringing other people so that we can reach more each and every show we do.

Speaker 3

Now, look, that's exactly right. The Verdict listeners are an amazing, engaged, informed, powerful group of men and women and group of young people. And you are regular listeners to this podcast because you want to know what's really going on. You want to understand. You know that if you turn on the six o'clock news, if you turn on CNN, if you turn on MSNBC, you're not going to really hear the truth you're going

to hear the narrative they want to tell. And even Fox News or NEWSMACS or OAAN, which which do terrific jobs, but it's very difficult in a six or eight minute snippet to understand the substance of complex issues. And it's I go on, I go on those shows all the time, but what you can discuss in a few minutes is fundamentally different from what you can talk about in a podcast, where you pick issues that really matter and you try to bring your listeners behind the scenes to understand what's

really going on. And so I'll say it's right now, it's ten fifteen at night on Tuesday of Thanksgiving week, and we're both away from our families recording this podcast right now. Many of you are listening to it on Wednesday. Many of you are on the road. You're driving to see your family somewhere in Texas, somewhere across the country,

or you're on an airplane and you're flying. You've downloaded this podcast, and I want to first of all say wish you traveling mercies and hope that you travel safely. I want to thank you for being part of the Verdict community, because the listeners who engage y'all have an impact. There is a reason this podcast has repeatedly forced the White House to respond to it from the White House podium at White House briefings. There's a reason we are

able to change administration policy. There's a reason we are able to drive the truth even when the corporate media is trying to cover it up. And it's because of all of you. It's because we have roughly a million unique listeners. We're beating CNN every week. And so I am thankful for you. But I hope on this Thanksgiving tomorrow you take time to give thanks. Give thanks for your family, give thanks for your health, give thanks for

your children especially, and give thanks for your country. Your country, America is facing enormous challenges, but we are still blessed beyond words. We live in the greatest country on the face of the earth, and it is a blessing. It is a blessing to fight for America at a time of great peril, and that's where we are. And so, and you know, I am thankful for each of you.

I'm thankful for your courage. I'm thankful for your love of America, because it's that love of America that I believe will save our nation.

Speaker 2

Aymen too, that happy Thanksgiving center to you and your family, To each and every one of you that's listening right now, Happy Thanksgiving from all of us here at Verdict. Will see you back here on Saturday for a weekend recap. Don't forget to hit that follow subscriber auto download button wherever you get this podcast so that you don't miss a single episode. And as we said earlier, pray for

the people in Israel. Pray for these hostages. Uh, there is gonna be great news with these these fifty that are going to be released, but there are many others that are going to be in anguish because their loved ones were not released by these terrasts. So make sure you say a special prayer for them and the Senator and I will see you back here in a couple of days

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