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Lawless Biden Plan to Keep Every Illegal Alien in Texas, plus NM Gov Claims to Repeal the Second Amendment

Sep 11, 202348 minEp. 279
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Speaker 1

Center.

Speaker 2

Nice to be with you as always, And we're shooting this the day before nine to eleven because on Monday morning, you're going to be at ground zero, and I want you to tell everybody a little bit about what you're going to be doing in New York on this It's a day that I'm so glad that so many people have it that we take that moment that we pause.

It's also painful reminder of this country, of what we went through and also the real threats I still think we have against this country, especially with an open border as well.

Speaker 3

Well.

Speaker 4

Twenty two years ago, on September eleventh, two thousand and one, our nation endured the worst terrorist attack in history. It is striking now that seniors in college weren't alive when that happened, that many young people, many people in their twenties, have no recollection whatsoever of what happened. You and I both remember that we've talked on this podcast about where each of us was on September eleventh.

Speaker 1

It was a moment that.

Speaker 4

Was utterly horrified as we watched nearly three thousand people murdered, murdered by a deliberate.

Speaker 1

Act of terrorism.

Speaker 4

It was also a moment that was at the same time that it was horrifying, it was simultaneously inspiring. We saw acts of heroism, the first responders, the New York Fire Department, the New York Police Department, those officers, those firefighters who ran into the buildings. Tomorrow morning, I'm going to be at the fire station that sustained the most losses on nine to eleven at a memorial service there,

remembering those firefighters. And I have to say, as we were watching that morning and you saw people running covered in smoke and ash, running away from the buildings, the only people that were running the other direction were the firefighters and the police officers and the first responders, and they ran up the stairs while the buildings were on fire.

And I will never forget the moment when when the first tower began to fall and I was in DC watching on TV with utter horror, as you realize that that thousands of people are being murdered before your very eyes. It is a moment to give thanks for the heroism we saw. It's also a moment to remember the unity we had.

Speaker 3

It was incredible.

Speaker 4

It was extraordinary after nine to eleven that the petty bickering that consumes so much of today just went away.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And.

Speaker 4

You know, I think one of the most extraordinary moments was when President George W. Bush, shortly after the attack, went to New York and was standing on a pile of rubble and was talking to the crowd with a bullhorn, and a man called out from the crowd said we can't hear you, and he said, well, I can hear you, and soon the whole world's going to hear you too.

Speaker 2

It was a moment, and it was a moment that you also knew people were angry. They wanted revenge, they wanted to go after the people that did this to us. And I do worry that we've lost some of that focus. You look at the border now, we have a wide open border. It was something that was talked about after nine to eleven. You have a border that could allow any terrorists to come across. Now, that's the easiest way to get into this country would be come across our

southern border. And I worry, and we've caught people on the Terrace watch lists coming across our southern border.

Speaker 3

I worry that we.

Speaker 2

Have forgotten the lessons of nine to eleven and what security looks like we've done at the airports, and we've kept that up right, you go to the airport, I think most people feel very secure when they fly the way that we've changed the way that we do security, Yet we have this wide open southern border.

Speaker 4

Well Listen listeners, a Verdict I think played a real role recently responding to the Biden administration's attempt to take the death penalty off the table for Khalide Cheik Muhammad and the mastermind planners of nine to eleven. And we devoted an entire podcast to exposing that, and I think many people spoke out and we're outraged, and at least right now it appears the Biden administration is backing away

from that. And so that was something significant that that viewer, listeners, that Verdict listeners and viewers a difference that collectively we made when it comes to the southern border. You're right, we have a vulnerability on our southern border. Every month people are coming across who are on the terror watch list. The numbers dwarf the number of known terrorists who would come in prior to Joe Biden. Joe Biden's open borders

are many things. They're an invitation for people to die, and for cartels to brutalize children and to sexually assault women. And they're an invitation to flood this country with narcotics and fentanyl that's murdering over one hundred thousand people. And they're an invitation for Mexican drug lords to become multi multi billionaires globally. But it's also an invitation to terrorist. If you are the next planner of nine to eleven,

it's obvious where you go. You go to Mexico and you come right across, and Joe Biden and the idiots in his administration will fly you to wherever you want to go in this country and you can carry out your terror attack. And sadly, every day that we have an open border under Joe Biden the Democrats, the odds of another major attack in this country, major terror attack, go up systematically. They are exposing us. They are exposing vulnerabilities.

Whether it is someone trying to hijack an airplane or whether it is a suicide bomber in a mall or an amusement park or a concert or.

Speaker 1

What have you. We are vulnerable.

Speaker 4

To global terrorism because this administration has thrown open the border and will not protect us.

Speaker 2

Does it take another tarist tech for them to understand this vulnerability because they've been reminded it, law enforcements remind them. You've seen the reports, you've said in Congress, as you've been briefed on the border and the people that we've caught on the terrorists watch list. I mean, there's a lot of people we've caught that are on the terrorist watch list for a reason, who we've caught come across.

My worry is how many have come across that we don't know about, that we have no idea where they are in this country or what they may be planning next. And why does it take something on the scale of a nine to eleven for them to wake up to the obvious. Hey, this is a bad national security decision. Forget immigration, legal immigration, this is a national security issue played in.

Speaker 4

Simple Look, five point eight million people that bought up control has encountered and apprehended in two and a half years under Joe Biden. An additional one point four million people that are categorized as godaways. In other words, they saw them, but they got away and didn't apprehend them. So we know a minimum of seven point two million illegal aliens have come in under Joe Biden. That that is orders of magnitude worse than we have ever seen

in the history of this country. And you know, you ask, what's it going to take for them to realize, Well, the sad thing is today's Democrats put partisan politics above everything, above humanity, above above deaths, above sexual assaults, above drug overdoses, above terrorism, above crime, above public safety. None of that matters. Partisan politics is their only priority.

Speaker 2

There was something else recently that you and I talked about on this pod, and I think it's also a point to look at now with the border, and that's transportation across the border. You've been working legislation to get new roads across the southern border for commerce to come across.

I was shocked to find out last week that about only twenty percent of trucks that come across the border right now are screened, meaning that if you're a bad guy, you got about eighty percent chance of getting nefarious products, whether that's fetanol, human trafficking, sex trafficking, countless other things that could be used in terrorism across the border. That's a pretty good chance you're going to make it across.

If only twenty percent of those trucks are even looked at these roads are saying, with the new technology, we'd be able to screen virtually one hundred percent of the trucks. Why is it taken so long for you to wake up to that idea as well? Because you've had people that you've had to fight on this issue.

Speaker 4

Well, look, I will say the technology that Customs and Border patrol uses to screen trucks and commercial traffic is actually quite good. I've been down there and I've seen it. They have the ability, they're X raying trucks, they look the effort.

Speaker 1

I will say.

Speaker 4

The traffickers when it comes to narcotics are exceptionally good at hiding things. They hide them in fruits and vegetables, they hide them in in all sorts of manufactured goods, they hide them in trucks, they hide them. But the technology is very good and they do a good job of identifying people who are likely to be trafficking, and people who are have demonstrated that they are reliable commercial travelers. And so our exposure right now is not coming through legal commercial traffic.

Speaker 3

It's just the wide open border.

Speaker 4

It's our exposure is coming because Joe Biden will not enforce the law, and when someone crosses illegally, he lets them go.

Speaker 1

That is the heart of it.

Speaker 4

If you let everyone go when they come illegally, you create what Joe Biden has created, the worst illegal immigration in our nation's history. And I got to say, where it's going right now is really pissing me off, because just this last week, the story broke that the Biden administration is contemplating trying to leave every every one of those illegal immigrants in Texas.

Speaker 2

And I gotta tell you, this is after liberals are crying around the country because they're actually having to deal with some illegal immigration in their cities like New York.

Speaker 4

So we've seen utter and complete hypocrisy from liberals across the country. And the response to the Biden White House is, well, maybe we'll just leave them all in Texas.

Speaker 1

We hate Texas.

Speaker 3

Yeah, so let them drowned.

Speaker 4

Let's just flood the state of Texas with illegal immigration. And basically basically what Biden is proposing is building a wall north of Texas.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he wants.

Speaker 4

To trap illegal immigrants in Texas and not let them go to blue states where they might upset Democrats.

Speaker 3

Is that legal?

Speaker 2

You're you're a lawyer, and I saw this planet and I want to read it the way it was put. This report shows that President Joe Biden and his team are quote considering a plan to require legal immigrants with doubtful asylum claims. I want you to deal with what that would even mean doubtful asylum claim to remain in Texas. This is the move that would force the lone star state to absorb tens of thousands of illegal aliens quote

every single week why. Biden administration officials who's spoke anonymously to the Los Angeles Times said the plan is being considered so that if newly arrived border crossers fail their initial asylum screenings, So this would be the worst, the worst. In essence, Immigration and Customs Enforcement ICE agents can more easily, they claim, locate and deport illegal aliens within Texas since they could be close to the US Mexico border quote unquote.

Speaker 4

Look, this is utter and complete garbage. It is nakedly political. It is blatantly illegal. By the way, people with dubious asylum can't claims. That means they don't have asylum claims. It means they know they don't have asylum claims it means that Joe Biden's open borders, they want to let them go anyway. These are the people that they are shipping to every community in every state in the Union.

And what's happening is suddenly blue state Democrats have noticed, Holy crap, this is a problem and these This is why. Look sometimes when I when I say things like the Biden White House puts partisan politics above everything, you know, part of me has a hesitancy and says, boy, that sounds really harsh.

Speaker 1

Like I can hear Heidi saying to me.

Speaker 4

As you know Heidi listens to the podcast, I can hear Heidi's saying, Oh, come on, Ted, that that's too that that's too knee jerk. There is no other explanation for this. The reason they want to target Texas is because they hate Texas, because Texas is red. Listen, seven point two million people have crossed the illegal inner Joe Biden, is he really proposing let's keep all seven point two

million in Texas. We've got thirty million Texans. He wants to take us to thirty seven million Texans and have a quarter of the state be illegal. And he wants to do that so that he doesn't upset Democrats in blue states. This is it is blatantly illegal, and it is it is illegality piled on illegality. Look, current federal law requires that he deport these people.

Speaker 3

He is doing that.

Speaker 1

He's defying federal law.

Speaker 4

He doesn't want them to stay in Texas so it's easier for them to deport them. He wants them to stay in Texas so that Democrat mayors and Democrat governors don't get mad at him because he is looking this is a partisan plan to try to turn America permanently Democrat. And if a lot of people have to die to get their partisan plan over the finish line, so be it. But I got to tell you, look in the Senate, there is no limit to what I am willing to

do to fight to stop this. If he thinks he can insulate the rest of the country and protect Democrats from the consequences of their lawlessness and force Texas to pay for it, that is utter and complete garbage.

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My response was to laugh at Mayor Adams in New York City basically declaring a state of emergency, saying we can't handle this, We're totally overrun, and I wanted to laugh, but I'm also like, yeah, welcome to the world of what we deal with every hour, not every day, not every week. Like you guys are freaking out over the number of illegals coming across the border in Texas, as you described it, we're talking about hundreds of thousands per month.

This is every hour for us. And yet he had this like dire warning to New York City.

Speaker 5

Take a look, we turned this city around in twenty months.

Speaker 3

And then what happened.

Speaker 5

Started with a madman down in Texas decided he wanted to bust people up to New York City, one hundred and ten thousand migrants.

Speaker 6

We have to.

Speaker 5

Feed, clothes, house educate the children, watch their laundry sheets, give them everything they need, healthcare. And this team here we stated, let's do everything possible before we have to push it out into neighborhoods and communities. Month after month, I stood up and I said, this is going to come to a neighborhood near you.

Speaker 3

Well, we're here, we're here.

Speaker 5

We're getting no support on this national crisis, and we're receiving no support. And let me tell you something, New Yorkers. Never in my life have I had a problem that I did not see an end In two. I don't see an ending to this. I don't see an ending to this. This issue will destroy New York City, destroy New York City.

Speaker 2

If you use his logic, then this issue will destroy the United States of America. It would certainly destroy Texas if we continue on this road that we're on right now. And he's begging for help, and I'm like, come down to Texas. Do you think it's bad in New York City? With one hundred and ten thousand, I'd say at this

point double it. Let's send twice as many bus loads up to New York because then maybe he'll talk to these other liberals and they'll realize, hey, we got to secure the southern border.

Speaker 1

Well, he complains.

Speaker 4

He says, we're getting no help and no support with a national crisis. Well, no kidding, Eric, what do you think We're getting zero support? And I love that he starts with a madman down in Texas. All right, newslash, The crisis was not caused by Governor Greg Abbott.

Speaker 1

You know who?

Speaker 4

The border crisis was caused by Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi. You know, if Eric Adams doesn't like this border crisis, he had to pick up the phone and call someone who lives in Manhattan. His name is Charles Schumer. And Chuck Schumer has defended Joe Biden's open borders every single day for the last two and a half years. He's blocked every effort to secure the border. He's blocked every effort to build the wall. He's blocked

every effort to deport illegal immigrants. He's blocked every effort to reinstate the remain in Mexico policy. He's blocked every effort to pass Kate's Law, which I introduced to lock up and have mandatory minimum sentences for violent criminals who repeatedly re enter this country. Eric Adams's party created this problem, and they didn't just create it in the past. They are creating it today, and they intend to create it tomorrow, and they tend to create it. Going on and on

and on and on. He says, one hundred and ten thousand people are destroying New York City. New York City has eight million people in it. One hundred and ten thousand is enough to destroy it. Guess what, Eric, how do you think McCallan, Texas feels. How do you think Del Rio feels? How do you think Brownsville feels? How do you think Laredo feels? How do you think El Paso feels? All of those are infinitely smaller cities than New York City, and they're getting swamped by much larger

flows of immigrants. And by the way, the clowns in Eric Adams's parties here's their response. Uh oh, new York mayor's mad at us. We don't want one hundred and ten thousand to come to New York. Let's put them all in Texas.

Speaker 2

Let's put them all around Texas, right, keep them all in Texas, keep him there well. And he also, if he wants to be mad at somebody, should be mad at himself from twenty twenty one, because this is what he said in twenty twenty one about illegal immigrants coming to New York City.

Speaker 7

Take a look when you think about it, the days I spent with always Sent employees, a substantial number of them were undocumented. They were delivering out overeat, they were stocking our stores, they were out in the streets keeping our city running. We have to expand NYC Care to make sure everyone has healthcare. We need to make sure we have proper translation services in our schools.

Speaker 3

He wants to expand everything.

Speaker 4

Wow, if may Or Adams heard that, that fool. Think how Maddie would be at that guy because that guy just invited all the illegal immigrants to New York City.

Speaker 1

The hypocrisy on this is massive.

Speaker 2

Well, and it's not just a hypocrisy there, it's also the elitist in New York City.

Speaker 3

You've done the view on Navarrow.

Speaker 2

I had to deal with her for seven years when I was fighting her at CNN. I feel like I still deserve a medal for that. But she's on the view. She's now angry, just like the people in Martha's Vineyard. He declared the state emergency when they got what was it, fifty illegal immigrants and got rid of him in like twelve hours, but clapters were kicking them out of their Martha's vineyard. She's on TV losing her mind this week because she can't imagine this idea of having to deal

with the legal immigrants. Keep them all down there in Texas take a look.

Speaker 8

But frankly, you know, I think we need to find and we've dealt with this before.

Speaker 6

I lived in Miami.

Speaker 8

I was a migrant, an immigrant in Miami in the eighties. You'll remember when we had the Mariel boat lift. Yeah, one hundred and twenty five thousand Cubans came in a matter of six months. It puts tremendous stress on a city, on a community, on the social services. They need to be resettled elsewhere.

Speaker 3

Need to be resettled elsewhere.

Speaker 2

Like I'm compassionate as long as it's not on my block or in my city or down by my five star Michelin restaurant that I love to go to.

Speaker 4

So this needs to be the bumper sticker for every liberal in America. They need to be resettled elsewhere, not in my backyard, not in my bedroom, not in my living room. I don't want to see them. But send them to where those dirty, dirty deplorables live. Send them to red States, send them to flyover country. You people aren't compassionate enough. I don't want them here, is what she's saying. But let's send them to help educate the

ignorant Americans. The contempt from the left for the people of America is astonished.

Speaker 3

It's also the hypocrisy.

Speaker 2

I do laugh about her because she actually owns her family, like her husband.

Speaker 3

They own a hotel.

Speaker 2

Wonder if how many illegal immigrants they've opened up their hotel to, not even their house, just their hotel, like you, I.

Speaker 3

Would ask that question.

Speaker 4

Let's not get crazy on that. No no, no, no no no. You can't expect liberals actually to do anything. But I will say, all right, this next clip from the view really does capture it, because I well, just play it.

Speaker 7

And I booked this country with its big, you know, statue.

Speaker 8

Of liberty, give me your your week, and all of.

Speaker 6

This is supposed to be the country that accepts people.

Speaker 8

Yes, and I'm disappointed in Mayor Adams.

Speaker 4

Of course corse she is now mind you, has she taken anyone in? No, of course not.

Speaker 3

And Adam did say, hey, you might want to open your homes the legal immigants.

Speaker 4

Excuse me when when you've when you've got a penthouse overlooking Park Avenue, you might let someone in to scrub the floors briefly, but you better get out before the party starts. The utter hypocrisy, no interest in actually understanding what's going on. And by the way, the statute of limit. Look, I'm the son of an immigrant. We are a nation of immigrants. There's a right way to come. You come legally. That's how you come to the United States. But don't

bother liberals to say that. She says we need to be compassionate. By we, she means you, yeah, not her, you,

and it is it is utter crap. Look, it was two years ago that I introduced legislation in the Senate, and it was legislation that said, we need to change the ports of entry where we send illegal immigrants to Martha's Vineyard, to Nantucket, to Palo Alto, California, to the Hamptons, to Block Island, to Rehoboth Beach, Delaware where Joe Biden vacations, to every place that wealthy liberals sit and sip their chardonnay.

And remember when I introduced that legislation that the county executive at Martha's Vineyard blasted me and he said, Cruiz does not understand illegal immigration. Really, skippy, is that the case? He said, he doesn't understand, he doesn't know what's going on. And he says, we and Martha's Vineyard would welcome illegal immigrants for twelve hours to Martha's Vineyard. And then several months later, Ron DeSantis actually took him up on that

and sent fifty five zero. Let's recall the numbers. There are between twenty and thirty thousand people who live in Martha's Vineyard. Fifty illegal immigrants landing in a community of twenty t thirty thousand people, he immediately declared an emergency. He called in the National Guard, and he deported them within twenty four hours.

Speaker 1

That's what liberals do.

Speaker 2

Brought in more National Guard members than the actual number of illegals. It was like almost a two to one ratio. Like for everyone illegal, we'll bring in two guys in military fatigues to deal with you.

Speaker 4

And by the way, it's not just Eric Adams. It's the governor of New York, it's the governor Massachusetts. It's the mayor of Washington, d C. It's the mayor of Chicago, it's the mayor of San Francisco. They're all discovering, Oh wait, these policies that my party advocates, my party fight for, my party implements are really crappy policies that are hurting everybody. And it's like, oh, rebe really yeah.

Speaker 2

Oh Fox News, one of the guys over there at Bill mcgow and put this tweet out, which I thought was pretty interesting. So from an awareness perspective, Texas busing migrants and sanctuary cities has been incredibly effective.

Speaker 3

That's why I might double it, like it's working. That's the best money you can ever spend.

Speaker 2

Double it, Desandas in Florida, double it any other state, doublets, fill the buses up, and keep doing it because it's clearly working. None of these cities expressed concern about the border prior now question mark. New York City mayor says city will be quote unquote destroyed Chicago begging now for federal help in May activating their National Guard, and LA is now threatened to sue Governor Abbot.

Speaker 3

I mean it's working.

Speaker 4

By the way, why isn't LA threatening to sue Joe Biden. Joe Biden's the one who's refusing to follow the law. Joe Biden's the one who's created the border crisis.

Speaker 1

And it's an amazing thing. Actually, put the next tweet up here.

Speaker 2

This is a response, by the way, this tweet, which is pretty interesting, and that the Friends is in Texas, has only buses forty thousand people in total, So just forty thousand out of all that have come across two million people have been released from the border and traveling in the US interior. Only two percent took Abbot's buses. Question where are the other one point nine to six million people?

Speaker 4

Well, and that actually understates it because you also have at least one point four million got aways all of them are there as well, so that that takes you up to three point five million. You also have the people who escape that we don't know that are not categorized as god aways because not all, not everyone who gets in illegally is categorized as one or the others. So you're looking at four or five six million people? And what are the Democrats doing? They're freaking out about

forty thousand on buses. The truth of the matter. Listen, Joe Biden has been flying people into New York every week. Does Eric Adams not know Chuck Schumer's phone number? I can give it to them. Well, and at Mayor Adams, right, Mayor Adams, I'm gonna make it offer to you, if you would like, I will give you Chuck Schumer's personal cell number. Because apparently you don't know how to contact your fellow New Yorker.

Speaker 3

You're gonna have er right down the street. Let each other.

Speaker 4

Your fellow New Yorker could take up and schedule a vote this week to solve this problem. And so if you don't know how to contact him, let me help you.

Speaker 2

Latest numbers are in just to put in perspective, data shows one hundred and eighty three thousand, and five hundred and three illegal immigrants were encountered attempting to cross the US Mexico border in July alone. That's a twenty seven percent increase in the crossings from last month. So month over month, up twenty seven percent.

Speaker 3

Quote.

Speaker 2

More than seven point two million illegal immigrants have crossed the southern border since Biden took office, as the newest numbers from July. This includes the nearly five point eight million illegal immigrants that the Customs and Border Protection as you mentioned, have encountered, and the more than one point four million got aways that have escaped pass border patrol

in the US so far this year. A reminder, the Biden administration was secretly flying illegals from the border into New York since at least the summer of twenty twenty one. They don't mention that, do they.

Speaker 4

No, No, they don't at all, and they don't mention who can fix it. I Gabitt doesn't have the ability to stop Joe Biden's open borders. Only Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and the people running the executive or for that matter, Chuck Schumer Congress could act. But every single Democrat Senator supports these open borders, every single Democrat congressman supports these open borders. And we have proof of it because if

they didn't, they would act to stop it, and they don't. Instead, they just blame a madman down in Texas want.

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consequence of this. I'm just gonna do it anyway because I'm the governor and I'm gonna go rogue. Now, there's some conservatives that are upset about this because they're like, man, I kind of wish Republicans would act the same way when there's a problem, instead of waiting on the federal government to say, I don't care what the rules say, let's just be proactive and let the courts figure it out.

Speaker 3

Afterwards.

Speaker 2

I want to talk about that in a moment, but I want to just go back to your initial reaction of seeing a governor sit there and tell her state, you don't have your Second Amendment rights under me, and I'm gonna do this, and there's nothing you can say to stop me. You can't do your permits, you can't get your permits, and basically I'm a dictator of the state until I get what i want.

Speaker 4

Look, unfortunately, this is the consequence today if you elect Democrats, they will come after your constitutional rights. It's who they are. They are the party of government power. If you vote for Democrats, you want the government to have power over you. You want the government to have power over your free speech. You want the government to have power over your religious belief and you want the government to have power to

disarm you and to ignore the Constitution. The one unifying factor of Democrats today is they are, I believe, a totalitarian party. They believe they are status, they believe in government control. And you look at what the governor of New Mexico has done here. It is utterly, blatantly, brazenly, unapologetically lawless. It is actually the two stories we're discussing this podcast are interrelated. Joe Biden on the southern border, has decided

he's just going to ignore federal law. We've actually never had that happen in our nation's history more than two centuries. Look, Barack Obama, I was not a fan of Barack Obama. I disagreed with a lot of things Barack Obama did as president. Thing is on immigration, by and large, he followed the law. Other than DACA, with the rest of immigration, he followed the law. Joe Biden came in and did something that no president has ever done. He simply said,

I don't give a damn what the law says. We're not going to follow it.

Speaker 2

Whatever Trump did, undo it. And if that means the border, let's do it.

Speaker 4

It is flagrant defiance of the law. And what the New Mexico governor is doing is the same thing, which is let's semin the son king, I am the state. That is what will give a listen to it to how she explains to the people in New Mexico.

Speaker 9

Now, I am sure as I go through the rest of this, there can be a lot of questions about whether or not we think we have the.

Speaker 6

Legal rights to do that.

Speaker 9

I am sure that before you write this, there will be a legal challenge, and I can't tell you that we win it.

Speaker 6

Given all of the different.

Speaker 9

Challenges to gun violence laws and restrictions on individual fire, on access and control in that regard, I think it's time to talk about the absoluteness.

Speaker 6

Of the discussion on the current court actions.

Speaker 9

That suggest that the Second Amendment is an absolute right and none of the others are.

Speaker 6

And I'm sure you're going to ask me what I think my chances are.

Speaker 9

And again, if it opens up the door to the kinds of public safety to keep kids safe, I'm willing.

Speaker 6

I'm willing to take it on.

Speaker 2

Now, can I say this to put it in perspective so people understand how quickly this happened. She had this press conference of term the seventh, okay, the executive order banning concealed carry for self defense, and cities like Albuquerque went in guess what on the eighth, There was no time to react for the people there.

Speaker 3

Her order.

Speaker 2

She said, I know you're going to be upset about this, but it's going to take effect tomorrow morning or technically midnight, and last for quote thirty days, after which she made clear she will revisit the issue and may pose an extended ban, which I'm sure she will. And this governor's order she and these are from the governor's office. Okay, So they basical said, we're going to suspend your constitution and your constitutional rights, and we're gonna ban open and

conceal carry even for license concealed carriers. So you've lost your right even if you have your license to carry that gun. So if if you're caught with that gun apparently you're gonna go to jail now, even if you have a concealed carry permit to have it already to credit. And she says, well, we're doing this to get rid of the gun violence, and so therefore it's worth it. So I'm suspending the constitution, I'm suspending all your rights.

And if you're caught with that gun that you have legally, that you've gotten the permit legally, you're we're still going to lock you up.

Speaker 4

Well, her order is directed specifically to the county that Albuquerque is in, and yep, to that big city. And look, Albuquerque votes Democrat, and so there is a lesson if you vote Democrat. This is what the Jack Buddha thugs. Do they come for your constitutional rights? That's what she's doing.

Speaker 3

You know.

Speaker 4

She is purporting to say that any person in New Mexico and Albuquerque who carries a firearm, either concealed carries it or open carries it, will be arrested, will be put in jail. And mind you, the New Mexico legislature has passed a concealed carry licensing scheme, So there are people who have gone and gotten licenses, and the state has granted formal legal authority to conceal carry. And she says, I don't care. I don't care what New Mexico law is.

I'm like Joe Biden. Joe Biden ignores federal law. Well, I ignore New Mexico law. So new Mexico law says if you have a concealed carry, you're allowed to conceal carry. Nope, I don't care. I'm a Democrat. Laws, laws don't bind me. But look beyond New Mexico law. The Second Amendment to the Constitution says the right to keep in bear arms shall not be infringed, shall not be infringed. What she is saying is, you have no right to keep in bear arms. You cannot bear arms, what is burying arms.

What the Supreme Court has said is the right of the people, and that's actually the phrase in the Second Amendment, the right of the people to keep it a bear arm. The right of the people is a term of art that the framers of the Constitution used to refer to an individual right to keep and bear keeping bearer two different things, keeping keeping arms or keeping arms in say, your home keeping arms, saying your automobile that is keeping arms. Bearing arms is to carry them, to carry them for

self defense. What she is saying is in New Mexico, you no longer have a right to bear arms. Doesn't matter you if you're a single mom, you're in Albuquerque, you're going home late at night, you're worried about being mugged, you're worried about the criminals that are rising because Democrats are in power. Well, you don't have the right to defend yourselves. What she's doing is laughing, laughably illegal. It's interesting, she says, well, some are gonna ask is this legal?

And she kind of shrugs and giggles. It's sort of like like the goofy, Well, what do I care? What's that constitution thing? That is the Democratic Party. Look that that shrug and giggle captures today's Democrat party. And mind you what she's doing. She says, she's focused on crime. You know, interesting enough, she's going after people who concealed carrie.

She doesn't point out a single crime that's happened in the state of New Mexico that was carried out by someone with a concealed carry permit.

Speaker 3

And if there was that, she probably would have used that to her advantage.

Speaker 2

And that was a question a local reporter asked, like, how many of these murders that you're freaking out about in Albuquerque were done or committed by people that had to conceal carry permit.

Speaker 3

They don't answer the question because they can't answer the quy question.

Speaker 4

Look, look, it's not about that. And by the way, they ought to freak out about the murders. Yeah, but you know what you do when you freak out about the murders, you go lock up the murderers. These numb skulls. She's not willing to lock up the real criminals. She's not willing to lock up the people who commit murder. She's not willing to lock up the carjacker. She's not

willing to lock up the criminals. No, what she wants to do is disarm you disarm everyone else who's law abiding, which will cause more murders, which will cause more home invasions, which will cause more carjackings. And this is partisan ideology, utterly in disregard to the Constitution of the Bill of Rights, to individual liberty and to reason or facts are evidence.

Speaker 2

Well, and look at what she also had to say that people when she was the doubt that's coming in the room. I mean, there's people sitting next to her in law enforcement. They look like they're in a hostage video. Take a look.

Speaker 9

If there's an emergency, and I've declared an emergency for a temporary amount of time, I can invoke additional powers. No constitutional right, in my view, including my oath, is intended to be absolute. There are restrictions on free speech,

there are restrictions on my freedoms in this emergency. This eleven year old and all these parents who have lost all these children, they deserve my attention to have the debate about whether or not in an emergency we can create a safer environment, because what about their constitutional rights. I took an oath to uphold those two And if we ignore this growing problem. Without being bold, I've said to every other New Mexican your rights are subrogated to theirs, and they are not in my view.

Speaker 2

What about the mother who has a restraining order against an abusive X who's carrying a firearm?

Speaker 3

What about the rights of that person?

Speaker 4

If you're a single mom, you have no right to defend yourself in New Mexico, according to this governor. I will say so this podcast, we do it three days a week, Monday, Wednesday, and Friday. It's always audio. Most of our listeners are on audio, typically one day a week. We do it video as well. This is one of the video episodes, So if you happen to be listening on audio, you can also watch this episode on YouTube, and watch about a third of our episodes on YouTube.

And I would say, if you get a chance, go pull this up on YouTube and watch the clip we just played. You heard it, but but what you didn't see if you weren't watching YouTube, is the two gentlemen sitting on both sides of the governor, and I don't know who they are. One is wearing a police uniform, the other the other certainly looks like law enforcement. I don't know that I've ever seen two men more unhappy to be sitting at a table. They look miserable, They

look like they want to puke on the table. As she's saying, I've declared an emergency. And during this emergency, the people of New Mexico no longer have constitutional rights.

Speaker 2

Isn't that what dictators do in tyrants in third world countries?

Speaker 4

Emergency is always the excuse to strip your rights. And by the way, we just went through the COVID pandemic, where the emergency excuse was used to strip the rights of millions of Americans in a blatant abuse of power. And now suddenly it's an emergency. Guess what. By the way, we're going to I promise you one hundred percent. I will wager one thousand dollars right now, we will have an emergency. See right before the election next year.

Speaker 3

You mentioned that this week. I don't want any action on that all because I know you're right, Because yeah.

Speaker 1

It's so obvious, it's so transparent.

Speaker 3

They don't bother to hide it, Yeah, they don't.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 3

Take a look.

Speaker 9

I can make the point that they maybe they should be.

Speaker 6

And this is the point.

Speaker 9

I'm willing to do anything in everything within a shred of evidence based effort.

Speaker 4

So number one, she has no evidence. Yeah, she hasn't cited any evidence. There is no evidence that disarming law abiding citizens stops crime. Why because the evidence actually shows the opposite that when you disarm law abiding citizen crimes goes up. You want to stop crime, and I want to stop crime. We know what stops crime. You go after the criminals, You go after the felons, you go after the fugitives, You go after and you lock them up, you put them in jail.

Speaker 3

You after the.

Speaker 1

Murderers, you go after the carjackers. She's not willing to do that.

Speaker 4

No, the Democrats are not willing to do that, and so if she wants to focus on evidence. And by the way, a phrase she uses a lot, she says, no right is absolute, No right is absolute. Now number one, nobody is arguing the Second Amendment right is absolute. For example, everyone agrees that we have laws in this country that say felons cannot possess a firearm. You can forfeit your

Second Amendment rights. If you're a criminal, you could forfeit them. Now, mind you, the governor, along with Joe Biden, they don't like to enforce those laws. So Hunter Biden, it was illegal for Hunter Biden as a firearm he did. He lied on the form to buy it. He's a crackhead. It is illegal for crackheads to possess firearms. See, the

right's not absolute. You can forfeit it. But the Joe Biden Justice Department, they don't want to prosecute him for him, they wanted to give him a slap on the wrists.

Speaker 3

Serve no.

Speaker 4

Initially they want him not even to have to plead guilty to it. But when it comes to when she says no right is absolute, what she means is you have absolutely no rights. Yeah, because look what her edict is saying it's not absolute.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 4

I'll give you an example. If she said you can't walk through downtown firing your gun in the air, that would be actually a reasonable rule. If you fire your gun in the air walking through that downtown, they ought to arrest you because you could hurt someone doing that. But what she is saying is you have a zero right to keep in bare arms in Albuquerque. You are

not allowed to defend yourself. And so Ben, if you happen to be driving through the streets of Albuquerque and some criminal tries to car jack you at a red light, you just better give them your car because you're not allowed to defend yourself. That is it blatantly illegal. And I want to actually put up this tweet.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 4

This is a tweet from tedlu the hard left wing Democrat congressman from California. Here's the tweet quote. I support gun safety laws. However, this order from the governor of New Mexico violates the US Constitution. No state the Union can suspend the federal Constitution. There is no such thing as a state public health emergency exception to the US Constitution.

And I'm going to say something shocking. Bravo actually retweeted Ted Lou and I said, I'm going to say something I've never said before.

Speaker 1

Tedlu is right.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Bravo, thank you for being willing to speak up. And this may well be a sign of the apocalypse. This is kats and living together. Yeah, this is ted lu being right. But Democrats have gotten so lawless now that it is completely in defense.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

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