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It is Verdict with center, Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator. I hope you had a fabulous Fourth of July with your family, and we've got a lot to talk about. I'm gonna guess it's going to be a lot about Biden because that's what everybody else in the country was chatting about over the weekend.
Well, that's certainly true.
Chaos ensues in the Democrat Party, paddic is continuing to grow. But before we talk about that, I will say you and I are both sitting here. It is Sunday night, We're both in Houston, Texas, and a hurricane is preparing to make landfall in the Great State of Texas. It is expected down south of here, somewhere around Victoria. It's expected to make landfall late tonight, somewhere one or two in the morning.
So just before this.
Podcast goes live to the world, and the projections are right now that it may accelerate to a category one or category two hurricane and then move north up to you and me in Houston. We're anticipating anywhere from five inches to as much as fifteen inches of depending on where you where you are, So so let me say, first of all, to everyone in Texas, stay safe.
Don't.
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And so keep your family safe.
Our prayers are going to be with everyone along the Gulf coast tonight, and make make sure you don't take any unnecessary risks and you listen to first responders and stay at a harm's way.
Yeah, no doubt about it.
I also want to ask you about this week you were hanging out with fam. How many people around fourth of July asked you about Joe Biden? Everyone look look fourth of July.
I had a great, great several days with with my youngest daughter Catherine. The two of us together hung out. Now Heidi and Caroline went on a mission trip to Africa, which was a fantastic experience.
Shake.
Caroline went with Heidi and with Heidie's mom and and and they were in Zambia. Had an incredible time there. But but you know, I got to say it over the fourth of July, you know, we were we were barbecuing burgers. Unlike Chuck Schumer, we actually know to turn the heat on and to cook the burger before you put the cheese on. So so so that's that's something
apparently Democrats don't understand how actually agrilla burger. But just about every every durn conversation standing around on the fourth of July was what's happening with Biden?
Is he going what's going to happen? And and and and I.
Got to say, we have seen the chaos spreading. Uh, we've seen the White House damage control really not going well at all. And and also on today's podcast, I'm going to modify my prediction at least some what I now think there's a significant chance we may get an outcome different than what I predict.
I'm gonna explain all that.
Oh, we're changing predictions. I like this.
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You predicted nine almost ten months.
Ago now that if Joe Biden was replaced, it would be at the convention and they would parachute in Michelle Obama.
So how are we changing it. I'm intrigued.
Well, that was my prediction, as you said, nine ten months ago, and at the time my prediction then, as I said, there's a real possibility. I didn't believe nine ten months ago that it was greater than fifty percent, but I thought there was a real, significant possibility. There were Democrats who were flighting floating trial balloons even back then.
The media was floating trial balloons even back then. And as I laid out my reasoning, I thought Michelle Obama was the natural choice for them, and where if I were a Democrat, that's where I would push. Now, over the last couple of months, I adjusted those odds to fifty to fifty or greater that they would pull the cord on Joe Biden. As things started getting worse and worse and worse, I thought the odds were getting higher and higher. And then after the disastrous debate, you and
I both watched the debate. We watched it real time, and then we sat down and recorded the podcast immediately after the podcast and immediately after the debate. Rather and my assessment that night is I now think the chances are eighty percent that the Democrats pull the cord on Joe Biden. And what I said then is and parachute Michelle Obama in Again, if I were a Democrat, I'd be all in on that, and In fact, if that happened,
it would be incredibly dangerous. We've seen polling that puts Michelle Obama in a really strong position, and as someone who wants Trump to win in November, I don't want to see that happen. What is interesting, though, the Democrats don't seem to be heading there with the speed that you would anticipate. And so here's how I'm going to
alter my addiction. I still think it is eighty percent that they pull the cord on Joe Biden, but I'm now going to modify it and say among that eighty percent, I think it is fifty to fifty whether they go with Michelle Obama or Kamala Harris. And I didn't think they'd go with Kamala because Kamala is a much weaker candidate. But it's interesting we have seen Democrats positioning, fighting, pushing
for Kamala to be the choice. And so, as I'm handicapping it right now, in terms of who's going to be the Democrat nominee come November, I put the odds forty percent Michelle Obama, forty percent Kamala Harris, and twenty percent Joe Biden.
All right, let's go over. Why you think that Kamala has jumped up for me personally? I do think they're kind of forced in a position where she's the front runner. Just from the aspect of the money. The money that's raised by the Biden heres campaign can only stay with Biden slash Harris. It can't go to somebody else quickly and the campaign apparatus. Is that why you're saying she has a much higher chance now than you said before.
No, No, the money. At the end of the day, I'll sort itself out. The Democrats are not going to be lacking for money in November. They've got gazillionaires who will devote whatever money is necessary to try to elect a Democrat that's not going to constrain their choice. Look, Michelle Obama, what I laid out ten months ago was that Kamala was obviously a deeply flawed candidate. But if you wanted to push her aside, the Democrats could not push her aside and replace her with a white guy
because their party, they're such bean counters. Their party would implode. And so the Gavin Newsom noticed. I put the odds of Gavin Newsom at zero percent. I don't think because he's a white guy, and he can't.
I just wanted to hear you say it because it's it's so funny.
No, No, it's the Democrat Party. If they pushed an African American woman aside for a white guy, particularly a rich white California surfer dude, that their party would would spontaneously combust. So they're faced in a quandary where the only human being on planet Earth who can push Kamala aside as Michelle Obama, because she has the same demographic characteristics as Kamala, and she she is the Democrat equivalent of royalty.
She she she now has has Camelot.
The Kennedys have gone, and the Obamas have replaced replaced them, and and and so she can parachute in as standing above the fray. What is interesting, though, is that nobody on the Democrat side has made any move towards that in the day since the debate, which which.
I'm surprised of.
Instead, what you've seen is moultiple Democrats beginning to push Kamala, yeah hard, push her hard, and say, look, if Joe steps down, it's got to be Kamala.
It's no one else, It's Kamala. It' Kamala, it's Kaba.
So for me, it's not the money, it's you get invested in something, you start leaning in, the stakeholders start getting behind it, that the press voices start getting behind, the members of Congress and the senators start getting behind it. And once you're you can't be a little bit pregnant. And I think as people get further and further down that road, it becomes harder to check to change the course you're on. And you're already seeing lots of stories
from the Democratic side. No, no, no, no, Kamala is a much stronger candidate than you think. All of you people who who think she's a weak candidate, you're all wrong, and she's going to be Madam President. We saw, you know, Jim Clyburn go on TV and say, look, I support Biden Harris, and that means I support Joe Biden even if Kamala Harris is not on the ticket. But he goes on to say, and that means I support Kamala
Harris even if Joe Biden's not on the ticket. Now that's a big deal because without Clideburn, Biden doesn't get the nomination. In twenty twenty, he played a pivotal role in stampeding Democrats away from Bernie Sanders to Joe Biden. And I think that was a serious signal that the powers that be, they're freaking out, but more of them are getting behind Kamala than I thought would happened.
Let's talk about this Stepanophoulis interview, and you and I mentioned that it was an important interview. Obviously at the end of last week. It was an interview that was actually heavily watched. Some of the ratings show that a
lot of Americans watched it. It was obviously a topic of conversation for July fourth with people with their family, with their friends, and if you're a Democrat, I think it's actually this interview universe right now because you're trying to figure out what the heck are we going to.
Do this interview.
As I watched it, I don't think it helped the president at all. There was one moment in there that was actually shocking to me. And Stepanopolis asked the president did you watch the debate afterwards? And he paused and he said, no, I don't think I did. You would know if you watched the debate that was days earlier, you wouldn't say no, I don't think I did. I don't think this interview helped the president at all.
Well, look, it is a weird answer. I don't think I watched it. And I will say this, I've done. I don't know a ton of political debates. I don't think I've ever watched one of the debates.
I did.
I've watched little snippets. I've watched little excerpts from him. You know, Frank Luntz does his dial group things, and I've had had Frank for several debates. Has like gone through, say a half dozen moments of the debate and played you know, a minute or no seconds or two minutes of it and showed me the dial groups of what people liked and what people didn't. So I've done that analysis. But I don't believe I've ever sat down and watched
a debate and its entirety after it happened. But that being said, if you ask a person three days later did you watch the debate to say I don't know is kind of weird.
Yeah, and it's a disaster of a debate, so it was even more of a relevant question. You've never had a disaster debate like Joe Biden did either.
By the way, I will tell you that there was one I did, and you don't know about this, but long ago, all right, So when I was first running for separate stories.
By the way, for everybody that's listening, this is when it gets good, So take notes.
All right.
So I'm first running for Senate. It's a twenty twelve election. It was twenty eleven, and nobody's ever heard of me. I'm a candidate. I'm at two percent in the polls. Never been you know, never been elected to nothing. Last thing I was elected to was student council. And so I'm out there. I'm working. I'm working. And we had we had an event in San Antonio, a fundraiser, and it was a fundraiser at the home of a wonderful woman,
a dear friend in San Antonio. Had people come and we stayed at the dinner till till about midnight, and then we drove from San Antonio back to Houston. And so I got to my house at four in the morning, and I slept from four in the morning till about six in the morning, and I had a breakfast at like seven or seven thirty. So I got maybe two hours sleep. That night, we had a debate for the
Senate race. And it was an interesting debate because at the time, David Dewhurst, who was Lieutenant governor and was the leading candidate who was supposed to walk into a coronation, he didn't participate at all, and so it was it was several of us that were considered by the media to be the kind of second tier, but it was the only Senate debate. You may not know this either, that Dan Patrick, who's now the Lieutenant governor of Texas.
Dan participated in. He didn't actually run for Senate, but he kind of thought about it. He thought about it enough to participate in the debate and that debate that night, I'd had between an hour and two hours sleep, and as the debate was going on, to be absolutely honest, Bet, I was just falling asleep. I was literally like nodding over there and my answers, I think some of my answers were shorter than Biden. You know, like at some point, I don't know, they asked me something like, you know,
would you abolish so security? I don't remember, something like that, and I gave like a three word answer, no. I would not, and that they seem clever. But it's really bad debate strategy. And I and and you know my political team really well, I am not a yeller. I don't yell at my team. You could ask JJ. I yelled at him and I said, look, I think I'm relatively decent at this stuff, but you can't send me into a debate with an hour or two hour sleep. I mean, that's just not And I sucked that night.
It was.
It was a miserable debate. Thankfully, there were like twelve people on planet Earth that watched it and so as I was dozing off. It did not impact the race one way or the other, but it sure did impact me. I was never going to let that happen again.
That's hey, it only takes once, right and then you learn your lesson on that one for sure. If you are Kamala Harris now, and I want to know, do you think she'll be held accountable for her lives? And hold on, I want to play it for you first. I want to play it for you. Okay, this is Kamala Harris over the years. Okay, this isn't just like in the last week covering for the cognitive ConA Joe Biden, will she have to answer for this.
I'm going to play it, and I want your reaction.
We have a very bold and vibrant president in Joe Biden, but.
A majority of Americans, according a majority of Democrats according to our new poll, say they don't want President Biden to run again.
What do you say to that, I mean, George, I think that age is more than a chronological fact. To be very frank with you, it's about thinking about whether we have in our leader, which we do in Joe Biden, somebody who was bold, I mean, think about it. And in Joe Biden, we have a president who is probably one of the boldest and strongest American presidents we have had in his response to the needs of the American people.
But he is an extraordinary leader. And I wish that people could see what I see, because there's only one person who says, behind that resolute desk, you're fifty eight.
Now. If you win the second term, as you and the President are running to do, he would be eighty six at the end of it. The Wall Street Journal had a poll showing two thirds of Democrats say Joe Biden is too old to run again. Are you prepared to be commandering?
Yes, I am if necessary. But Joe Biden is gonna be fine. And let me tell you something. I work with Joe Biden every day. The work that under Joe Biden's leadership, our administration has accomplished is transformative.
To very prominent Washington Post articles today talking about President Biden's age, and that's a been concerned among the young voters and in growing poll numbers, that's a be concerned. Are are people right to be concerned about his age.
At this point?
Well, let me just say this.
When I talk to these young voters, what they want is a leader who is in touch with the problems of today and has a vision for what we can do today and in the future to deal with it. President Biden is the first president to take on in any substantial way the issue of the climate crisis.
I'm not going I mean you you listen to this and I've got another four minutes.
But that's just some of the highlights.
She whied to the American people and has been definitely involved in this cover up she for years. It says Biden is quote very bold and vibrant. Then she says he's tireless in terms of working and says he's gonna be fine. He is in good shape, he's in good health. She lied to the American people. So if she gets the nomination, how big is this going to come back? I think of of a of a conversation with Donald Trump and whoever he picks when they go up against her.
Look, I think in terms of the media, absolutely not at all. They they do not care. She repeated the line, so did every other Democrats, so did every other White House staff, or so did all of the all of the corporate media. You know, it reminds me from from from the line from the movie The Manchurian Candidate. You remember that, that that movie with Frank Sinatra in it, and and and they're all brainwashed to support this candidate,
and they all say the identical line. They all say, Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. And they all repeat that because that's what they were brainwashed to say. Look, Kamala talking about Joe Biden is the same things. He's the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life. He's most smart, he's brilliant. He can do differential equations in his head. Wow, and they're
just lying. They know they're lying. They knew they were lying. But you know what, the press knew they were lying. The Democrats knew they were lying. They didn't care that they were lying. And the frustrating thing is they don't care now. They'd be perfectly fine to prop Joe Biden up and we can it bernies him for the next
four years if it keeps him in power. The only reason they care is because they're looking at poll numbers saying, oh crap, people don't want to elect someone president who's noncompassment is if they thought they could get away with it politically, they'd be perfectly fine with our commander in chief being unable to tie his own shoes.
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All right, let me ask you another question.
After the George Stephanopolis interview took place, Biden refused to commit to an independent medical evaluation. If he was trying to get everyone to calm down, wouldn't your campaign say yes to doing this unless they're hiding something. Would you be willing to undergo an independent medical evaluation that included neurological and cognitive cognitive tests.
And release the results to the American people.
Look, I have a cognitive test every single day. Every day, I have that test everything I do. You know, not only am I campaigning, but I'm running the world.
And that sound how it sounds like.
Iprobaly, But we are the central nation in the world, and I don't know that was right. And every single day, for example, today, before I come out here, I'm on the phone with the Prime minister. You or I shouldn't get into detail.
But he can't remember which prime minister he's on the phone with. It says I got this under control, guys, I don't need a cognitive test from a doctor.
I do it every day well and look to be fair, he may well have had that test. I mean, we also had the stories break this past week. That's the New York Post. President Biden's physician met with Parkinson's disease specialist in the White House. A top Washington neurologist had a meeting with President Biden's personal doctor at the White
House earlier this year. Visitors logs reviewed by the Post show doctor Kevin Canard, a Parkinson's disease expert at Walter Reed Medical Center, met with doctor Kevin O'Connor and two others at the White House Residence clinic on January seventeenth, according to records, which emerge as questions continue to swirl about the eighty one year old president's mental health in the wake of his debate debacle last week with former
President Trump. Now that there was yet another headline from the Washington Examiner which is even more stunning, which is quote, top Parkinson's disease specialist visited White House ten times since twenty twenty two, according.
To the visitors' logs. And I'm going to.
Read from that story, President, but Joe Biden's physician met with a top Washington, DC neurologists who specialized in Parkin's disease earlier this year. Cannard's name shows up in the visitors logs ten times since November fifteenth, twenty twenty and Ron Jackson, who Ronnie Jackson, who now the congressman from Texas, a good friend who used to be the White House physician, said quote, it is highly likely they were talking about Biden.
He should only be regularly treating the President and the first family. That is the White House physician ten times. It's a very simple question. Why do you have a top Parkinson's disease specialist coming to the White House ten times since twenty twenty two.
Yeah, ten times. So if that is the case, And I love how now all of a sudden, the media is doing their job right, Like they're doing their job and they're and they're actually digging and they're asking questions.
But it's all they didn't report on that a month ago.
Yeah, No, they're doing it now, but it's not for the right reasons. And that's why I say, don't give them any credit. It's because they've gotten their marching orders from Democratic donors. And the Democratic Party that your job now is to get rid of Joe Biden. I mean the Stepanopolis interview. I wanted to give him credit, but I know what's happening. I'm not an idiot. This is not the normal George Stepanopolis.
His job.
They sent him there to take down Biden, to be the hit man to end his presidency. And the way he treated him was the way he would treat Donald Trump in an interview. It was shocking to watch, but you have to understand they're doing it because they think they're going to lose their power, because they think they're going to lose with Joe Biden.
Yeah, they're panicking. We're seeing Democrats panic, We're seeing the media panic. They want to push Joe out. It's why I put the odds at eighty percent. And look over the last week, the drip, drip, drip keeps coming. So The New York Times in this past week reported quote a senior White House official, though unnamed, as telling the New York Times Biden should stand aside. That's a senior White House official in the Biden white House, mind you.
The Washington Post on July fifth, Senator Mark Warner a Democrat works to gather Senate Democrats to ask Biden to exit the race. Then, on July seventh, Axios reports that the Democratic senators Biden huddles called off. And here's what Axios reported quote, Senate Democrats won't meet Monday to discuss their support for President Biden continuing his reelection bid, despite an effort by Senator Mark Warner to organize such a meeting.
This every day we have now I think it's five Democrat House members who have called for Biden to step down, and every day it keeps getting more and more and more, and there's nothing that the Biden white House has done to stop the bleeding.
They've also tried to act like the President's willing to do interviews anywhere at any time, and this has now turned into another major problem for this white House. You have one radio host who's now been fired and another one that is under major scrutiny because in two different cities, in two different places in America, the same exact interview
took place with Joe Biden. CNN calling out one of the hosts as they interview these radio hosts who spoke with Biden, and they had these interviews and they knew what they were doing. They heard the questions both interviews and separate cities, and they're like, this is the same damn interview happening two times over. And then CNN's like, all right, we're all in favor of getting Joe Biden out. So they called out the White House for this. Take a listen, Andrea.
Let me ask you here about your interviews and something. I listened to both of them, and there's something that's similar here. Each were you asked four questions, and maybe that's what you were allowed to ask by the campaign or the White House, but they were essentially the same questions.
Both interviews about accomplishments progress in your respective state, what's at stake in the election, what he has to say about his debate performance, and what he would say to voters who think their vote doesn't matter or might sit this election out. Were those questions given to you by the White House or did you have for the campaign or did you have to submit questions ahead of this interview?
The questions were sent to me for approval. I approved to them.
Okay, So the White House sent the questions to you ahead of the interview, Yes, okay.
I got several questions, eight of them and the four them were.
Chosen with the ones that I approved.
Okay, and the reason I ask. It's not a criticism of either view. It's just that if the White House is trying now to.
Prove the.
Vim vigor acuity of the president, I don't know how they do that by sending questions first before the interview, so that the president knows what's coming.
Now.
The campaign and his statements did not deny providing these questions to that radio show host, but they did add that the interview was not conditioned on acceptance of those questions, and added that the any reporter can ask the questions that they see fit. Now today, the campaign is also saying that they're changing their practices going forward and that they will no longer be recommending questions ahead of interviews.
One source familiar with the Biden booking operation over at the campaign said, while interview hosts have always been free to ask whatever questions they please, moving forward, we will refrain from offering suggested questions.
I mean, you listen to that, and not only did this one person that was in that interview, that radio host and your lawful Sanders, she's been forced resigned from WRD Radio after admitting her post debate interview with President Biden included questions that were pre selected by the Biden
campaign team. The station owner said it was furious by this the presidency of the Philadelphia base station, announcing a statement posted on Sunday this the interview featured predetermined questions provided by the White House, which violates our practice of remaining an independent media outlet accountable to our listeners. As a result, Miss Lawful Sanders and wr D Radio have mutually agreed to part ways, effective immediately.
Now.
WRD, by the way, is Pennsylvania's only black owned talk radio station. So this was a terrible day for the history and heritage of the station to basically realize that the White House called and said, hey, you want Biden, all right, we'll give you Biden on your show and give you this press, but only if you ask the four questions that we tell you to ask. And not only do they do it in this city, but they also did it back in Milwaukee as well.
Well. Look a couple observations.
Number one, it's very interesting to know that there are apparently still people at CNN who know how to do journalism. I didn't think they knew how to do that. But you actually saw, very briefly a CNN journalist asking questions, behaving like a real journalist. And you're right, it's because the narrative is shifted and they're now, I think, happy to push Biden out. Two months ago they would not have been willing to do that. But secondly, this thing
is utterly corrupt. It shows how completely in bed with
the Democrats that the media is. That you have the White House of the campaign and I guess they don't specify which one it is, giving the questions to the interviewer saying here's what you will ask, which means, by the way, that Joe Biden is probably reading the answers that you know he And it makes you wonder how many other reporters have done that at the White House press briefing when Biden has a list in front of him, call on so and so, how many times does he
know the question and read the answer to it. And look, you've worked at media a long time. I've been in the Senate for twelve years. For people listening to this podcast, you need to understand this is not normal. It's at least not normal. If you're not a corrupt Democrat.
I mean, I mean, look, I do this fair amount with people that I interview right over the years, and I've had campaigns or officely say, hey, the Senator or the congressman or the governor has this piece of legislation, if you'd please ask him a question about that. It's something it's very important, and then it's going to be introduced.
And I'm fine with that. But if you gave me four questions to ask and said you get them only, if you asked these four questions and these four questions only, I would tell them to pound sand no matter who it was, because that's not doing an interview. That's that that that that's a scripted moment. You might as well just have the president sit there at the White House and say, here are the four questions are going.
To answer today that I chose.
Yeah, Look, it's I've done hundreds of interviews, if not maybe thousands of interviews. I've done a crap ton of interviews. Uh, to the best of my knowledge, I've certainly never submitted questions. The best of my knowledge, no one on my team has. Now, what is typical is what you just said. If you're doing an interview. Let's say I'm going on Hannity. It's typical that that that my press team will talk with
Hannity's producers and they'll discuss some topics. So if you're going to talk about the Biden debate, or if you're going to talk about illegal immigration, or sometimes there's some story that just broke of, like you know, th real the or the terrorist you know, being the the eight terrorists suspected terrorists from Tajikistan just released. If there's a story that just broke the producer will tell my press team, Hey,
Sean wants to ask about this. That's typical, so you have some idea what the topic is you're discussing, so that you can be prepared. But I'll tell you my guess is of the interviews I do, at least half of them, they asked me something that is not a topic that they mentioned at all, So you know, it's it's helpful to have. Okay, if we're going to do Israel, I should probably be up on the latest developments of
what's happened on Israel in the last few days. But it is an absolute violation of journalistic ethics and norms to simply read the questions the campaign handed you, and and the absolute arrogance that the Biden campaign has that they they fully assume that that that fake journalists will be more than happy to comply.
Yeah, it's like they're shopping for anyone that will play a game at this point. And the worst part for me, I think is the fact that they did this in response to the debate to try to convince the American people that he is easy on his feet, that he can do these interviews, that he's not scripted, that he can talk off the cuff, when in fact, we pull back the curtain yet again, and it's another lie of the American people.
It's all fake. It was all set up.
He knew exactly what the interview was going to be in both cities, and it was the exact interview two times in a row.
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as usual? How many more days can they continue to go after Joe Biden if he refuses to drop out?
Well, I think the instant Biden is out and they coordinate the next person, then the media will absolutely fall in line and it will become a straight on cheer leading. It will be hallelujah, hallelujah. The problems are all solved. Now we must all vote for either Kamalo or Michelle Obama and and save America and and stop stop Orange Man bad. I mean, and the it would be instantaneous. But you know, let me make a couple of quick
more observations on that point. You know, as you and I were talking about doing interviews and getting questions ahead of time. As I said, I've done a gazillion of them and and and have not had the questions ahead of time. But you know, I was actually thinking about it. On this podcast, We've interviewed a bunch of folks. Now I'm not a journalist. I don't pretend to be a journalist. Uh, but even when we interview people on this podcast, we've
never given people of questions ahead of time. And I actually thought back to it to an interview that that that that on this podcast actually but before you were my co host, what it was Michael Doles and me where we interviewed Bill Barr. And we interviewed Bill Barr at the Department of Justice. He was the sitting Attorney General. And it was interesting. His communication staff was really freaked out and they were like, Okay, well, well, how's this
gonna be and and listen. I've known Bill for twenty years and we're friends, and I'm telling him, relax, I'm not I'm not gonna play games. This, this is not this is not a gotcha interview. This is not trying
to you know, go stick it to him. And I didn't, but it ended up being It was one of our most listened podcasts we've ever done, in part because Bill was someone who would come across on TV as as as pretty stiff and tight and you know, very controlled, and because he and I are friends, he was relaxed and we were cutting up. And Bill as funny as hell.
I mean, he has this wickedly sarcastic sense of humor, and and it came out we had a great, free range, free ranging interview that look what a podcast is good.
It sounds like a.
Couple of guys sitting at a cafe having dinner and and just shooting the bree He's talking about what's going on. But even then, with someone I'd known twenty years, I don't even think I told him the topics we were going to discuss. We just sat down and now I wasn't playing gotcha games. But that's what we did. But let me make a second point about just how astonishingly rapidly the media can do one hundred and eighty degree reversal.
So on this podcast, we've talked a lot about Hunter Biden and the whole Hunter Biden investigations and the trials, and for months and months and months and for years and years and years, the White House narrative and the corporate media narrative was Hunter is a poor, troubled son. He struggles with substance abuse, He's a sad soul, and it's all about him. But they've said he has nothing, nothing,
nothing to do with the White House. No, no, no, no, no, no Hunter, when he was making millions of dollars from every corrupt oligarch in every enemy of America across the planet, whether the Chinese Communists or the Russians or what have you, that had nothing to do with favors from Papa Joe.
No, no, no, no, no.
Hunter is not at all connected to Joe Biden the White House. That's been their their relentless talking point for years. Correct, Yes, all right, I want to read you this paragraph from Axios on July seventh, Behind the Curtain on bendable Biden versus breaking point Dams quote. We're now in uncharted historic waters. President Biden, backed by First Lady Jill Biden, and his convicted son Hunter, who's serving as de facto gatekeeper to his dad, says that nothing besides an act of God
will persuade him to quit his reelection campaign. So without missing a beat, the corporate media can now suddenly admit Hunter is quote de facto gatekeeper to his dad. This is the same Hunter who about twelve minutes ago, their walking storyline was no, no, no, no, Hunter's never met Joe Biden. I'm sorry, they have nothing to do. He doesn't even know where the White House is. No, no, no, no, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. This is not about Joe Biden and his corruption.
Yeah, this is the media. They'll get back in line soon, don't worry.
I get stantaneously.
Yeah, I give him a week and a half, two weeks, and then they'll start dialing back the full court press to get Biden out, because they're then going to be afraid maybe we can't get rid of him by when we want to. So we got to pull back a little bit. And I think going into these conventions coming up. It's gonna be very interesting to see how they even deal with him if Joe Biden's still there at the
convention and he's quote still the guy. I also think this, I gotta ask Ki Bona's question, do you think Donald Trump is gonna have to, in essence, just put the VP pick on hold until they figure out who they're running against?
That is an awfully good question.
I mean, I don't know. Look, look away from you and I go into the con Yeah. Yeah, we have no idea who the VP candidate is, and I'm not sure he does either.
Look, it is not a crazy question to ask.
The Trump campaign has said repeatedly that they'll announce the VP by the convention, and you know, usually the VP gives a big speech at the convention the day before the president does. It is a tricky question because if you don't know who you're running against, that is certainly a real factor in trying to decide who VP is.
It would I have not looked at the legal questions at how complicated it would be to dame a VP after the convention, but it would not be insane for Trump to delay that choice until he has some real confidence who his opponent's going to be.
Yeah, and that's where I'm sitting there just scratching my head. It's gonna be a fun one. Don't forget to center. And I do this show Monday, Wednesday and Friday. Hit that subscribe auto download button and please share this show on social media wherever you are on social media. If you'll please share it. Also grab my show, the Ben Ferguson Podcast on those in between days. I'll keep you up to date every day in between and the Senator and I will see you back here Wednesday morning.