Kamala Considers Border Wall after She Didn't, RFK Support to Trump a BIG DEAL & Harris on CNN "Bidenomics is Great Work" Week In Review - podcast episode cover

Kamala Considers Border Wall after She Didn't, RFK Support to Trump a BIG DEAL & Harris on CNN "Bidenomics is Great Work" Week In Review

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Speaker 1

Welcome.

Speaker 2

It is Verdict with Centater, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you, and it is the week in Review and my, oh, Mai, was it a big week. First up, Kamala Harris flip flopping now on the border wall, trying to convince Americans she's in favor of it, even though she's the one that has stopped it from being built. Also, RFK, he has endorsed Donald Trump. How significant could this be in swing states?

Speaker 1

We're going to break that down.

Speaker 2

And finally, Kamala Harris did a big fake interview with CNN. You had Dana Bash holding one hand while her VP Kennett Walls was holding the other. So what actually came out of it? Well, she had to defend Bidenomics and said it was quote unquote good work. Yes, Bidenomics, the same thing that's destroyed our economy. Will break all that down for you as well. It is the Weekend Review

and it starts right now. There is also another story you mentioned earlier, and this one I'm sorry, Senner, I just laughed when I saw this happen in real time. Kamala Harris has come out and now flip flopped on the border wall issue. She is one that said she would never, okay, never ever support building a wall, and I'm gonna play it because I think people should hear. This is her in her own words in Des Moines, Iowa.

Speaker 3

Let me be very clear. I'm not going to vote for a wall under any circumstances. And I do support border security, and if we want to talk about that, let's do that.

Speaker 2

But I will never support a wall under any circumstances. Now, the polling data is not looking good for her on security at the border, and she's like, Okay, I guess I might be in favor of wall, even putting out an ad that shows Donald Trump's wall in her ad.

Speaker 4

Well, the single greatest vulnerability to Kamala Harrison Democrats nationally is the open borders they've had for four years. It is the number one issue voters are concerned about. We're singing in vain at are southern border, eleven point five million illegal immigrants. People are seeing the death, the suffering, the children being brutalized, the women being sexually assaulted. People are seeing the criminals being released who are murdering Americans,

who are raping women, who are assaulting kids. People are seeing the risk of terrorism coming across the southern border and they're very unhappy. So the Democrats are looking at the same poll numbers we are. They realize, gosh, this is a vulnerability. Now, mind you, they're not willing to change their policies. They still want another eleven million, another twenty million, another thirty million illegal immigrants to come into this country because they view them all as future Democrat voters.

Speaker 5

They want to stay in power.

Speaker 4

But we've got sixty nine days to election day, and so in the sixty nine days to election day, they will say whatever whatever they feel they can to convince the voters to elect Kamala Harris, and after which she will go hard left and continue to destroy this country. Now we saw at the outset of her campaign. By the way, she's been the presumptive Democrat nominee for over a month. She's done zero interviews, no press conferences, no questions.

They put her in front of a teleprompter, she reads the teleprompter, They tackle her, they throw her back in Joe Biden's basement. They say shut up and please don't say anything. The first major policy provision she came out for was no taxes on tips. That was literally a proposal Donald Trump rolled out in Nevada. It's a proposal, by the way, that I introduced in the Senate. I

introduced it, the no Taxes on Tips legislation. When I introduced it, both Democrat senators from Nevada co sponsored my legislation. And there's a reason for that, which is twenty five percent of the workers in Nevada are tipped workers. And so both Democrats immediately sponsored my legislation. Kamala came out and suddenly had this crazy idea, Hey, no taxes on tips. So that was where she started. She is now gone. So she also said this week she is not for

an ev mandate. Suddenly she loves her some internal combustion engine, no electric vehicle mandate, just keep your car. Never mind that for the last four years of Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, they have been pushing an EVY mandate date on every front. They've been trying to ban the internal combustion engine. They've been using regulatory assaults in every front. None of that exists. As Obi Wan Kenobi said, these are not the drones you're looking for. Do not pay

attention to anything. Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have done. Listen instead to the nonsense they're spewing sixty nine days before the election. But this truly is the one that is the cherry on the top of the banana. Sunday, let me read the headline from Axios quote Harris flip

flops on building the border wall. If she's elected president, Kamala Harris pledges to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a wall along the southern border, a project she once opposed it and called un American during the Trump administration.

By the way, I'm going to break news right now, and this may not be news, you know, but next week, I am reliably told from leaks within the White House, Mamala Harris plans to dye her hair blonde, dye her skin orange, and buy enormously long red ties and wear only those in public appearances.

Speaker 2

And you got to add, Beyonce's going to be in there with her doing the same thing, right, because if we're going to start rumors, we might as well go back to that one to get people excited.

Speaker 4

But by the way, Beyonce is going to be blonde and also with orange skin.

Speaker 1

Ah, I love it.

Speaker 4

Listen, I want to go back. I want you to listen to a montage that Martha McCallum put together on Fox of Kamala's prior positions on the wall, because this is Look, there's a Yiddish word huspa that doesn't even begin to capture what Kamala Harris's claimed that she's going to build the wall is. Now listen to this.

Speaker 6

Axious News calling out Vice President Harris's quote flip flop on the border wall. Here is some of what she has said in the past.

Speaker 7

Watch.

Speaker 3

I'm all for increased border security where we need it.

Speaker 1

I am not for a wall.

Speaker 3

I specialize on transnational criminal organizations.

Speaker 8

That wall.

Speaker 5

I'm going to stop them.

Speaker 8

No, no, okay.

Speaker 6

But last week, Harris said that she supports the bipartisan border bill, which includes requiring the Trump border wall. According to its negotiators, oxy is reporting that Tim Harris says that the bill doesn't include new wall funding, it just extends the timeline to spend funds appropriated during the Trump administration. So we hope we'll hear directly from the candidate to clear that up in an interview, which we would love to see over the next several days.

Speaker 2

By the way, the interview is now going to be a joint interview, apparently on CNN, where she doesn't have to worry about babbling so much because the VP will be there with their candidate, which still makes me laugh.

Speaker 1

That's her first interview.

Speaker 2

But we have we have no policies, decisions, it's just sold.

Speaker 5

Ben.

Speaker 4

Let me ask you something, so, Ben, you have been following politics closely since you were like in the womb. Yeah, and it's your birthday, so, like in the womb, was forty three years.

Speaker 1

You're going numbers.

Speaker 5

I'm digging this.

Speaker 4

In forty three years. Do you know of a single instance ever, and I'm asking this comprehensively in forty three years where a presidential candidate was so terrified to do an interview on their own that they demanded their VP candidate be with there with them.

Speaker 2

Yeah, bring a buddy with you, right, No, I've never seen that. But what's even more weird. It's weird, but it's even more shocking then, is we had a convention. And if you go to her website right now, because I check it every day when I'm doing my show, no policy there is still no policy tabs on her damn website.

Speaker 4

There's no taxes on tips and building a wall and protect the internal combustion engine.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and the same wall that he's not.

Speaker 4

Actually on the website for the fact checkers there, that's just the policy she's rolling out.

Speaker 5

But she has no policies on her website.

Speaker 2

Well, and that's the part I think that Axios was trying to get at, is like, give me a break. I mean, Kamala Harris if you go back.

Speaker 5

And by the way, Axios is not a right wing website.

Speaker 4

It is a center left media organizations. It's not one of the most left wing organizations, but it's not conservative. No, And they're pointing out, are you frigging kidding me? Like this is what she's saying.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and let's go back to what she called the wall, which she's now using parts of the wall visually in her ads.

Speaker 3

Listen, we don't need to build a wall. This is a crisis of his own making. And by definition does planes speak basic English language definition, it is not an emergency. What's going to end up happening is that he will end up without any question if he proceeds. We're going to be looking at a situation where, in particular, homeowners and landowners in places like New Mexico and Texas are

probably going to look at government taking their land. We're looking at military resources being focused again on the president's vanity project instead of focused on real national security issues.

Speaker 2

I mean, she says it's a vanity project and it's not a crisis, and we don't need it, and everybody this Donald Trump is the idiot. I'm the brilliant one. She said this for years, and now she's using Trump's wall as like as a prop for her own campaign.

Speaker 4

Listen, I serve for years on the Senate Judiciary Committee with Kamala Harris one hundred percent of the time. With that exception, she was hard left. As the non partisan bill tracking organization guv TRAC raided her, she was the single most liberal senator in the entire US Senate. She voted to the left of Bernie Sanders, to the left of Elizabeth Warren. She has never, once in any hearing I've been in, expressed any concern with securing the border.

She is always, always, always sighted on side of illegal aliens, of the cartels, of the human traffickers, of the drug smugglers. In fact, in one hearing with the head of ICE, the Immigration and Customs enforcement. She analogized ICE agents to the ku klux Klan, which is grotesque, it is offensive. And so now when she's pretending she will secure the border, she has been in charge of the border for the

last four years. She has been the borders are as much as the media is trying to erase that, those are the facts.

Speaker 5

She wanted.

Speaker 4

This outcome, this invasion is her desired outcome. And if God forbid she gets elected president, eleven and a half million is going to become twenty million or even thirty million illegal immigrants.

Speaker 2

Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, you can go back and listen to the full pot cast from earlier this week.

Speaker 1

Now onto story number two.

Speaker 2

So let's talk about the politics of this now. And you look at swing states, and this is my theory. You can tell me if you think I'm right or wrong. He was polling in most swing states. I'm referring to RFK Junior anywhere between about four percent to seven percent. If he's able to keep forty to fifty percent of his supporters as he go and they go over to Trump,

that's a legitimate two to three percentage points in swing states. Yeah, that is the different center between winning and losing in a general election cycle.

Speaker 1

This could be massive for Donald Trump.

Speaker 4

That this could have enormous impact. And we'll break the numbers down in a second. But you're right, but let me before we get into the exact numbers, let's actually just talk about this.

Speaker 5

In the macro level. Bobby Kennedy is the sun.

Speaker 4

Of the late Bobby Kennedy, who would have been president had he not been assassinated on the presidential campaign triol. Yes, Bobby Kennedy is the nephew of JFK who obviously was president and tragically was assassinated as president.

Speaker 5

There is no greater.

Speaker 4

Democratic royalty than than the Kennedys and Bobby Kennedy Junior in particular. That is, for Bobby Kennedy to be endorsing the Republican candidate for president is massive. And you know when the last time was that a Kennedy supported a Republican in a campaign. I'm going to go back in ancient history. I want you to listen to this interview with Richard Nixon. Let's go back to nineteen fifty. Give a listen as Nixon talks about it.

Speaker 7

In nineteen fifty. He came into the outer office. My secretary buzzed and said, Congressman Kennedy is here, and so of course he came right in and he handed me an envelope. He said, you know, I know you got a tough campaign against Helen ge Hagen Douglas, and the family liked to contribute. So he handed it to me and it was one thousand dollars in cash. Later on, I think it was quite embarrassing to him, and he wanted it made very clear that the contribution was from

his father and not for him personally. But he was delivering that there was no question whose side he was on. And later on after the election, when he was speaking at Harvard, he said that he was not unhappy about my defeating Helen Gehagen Douglas because he had not found her one that he liked to work with in the Congress of the United States. Do you think that the money was in fact from him or was it from

his father? Doesn't make any difference. The Kennedy money is all in one pot, and he had a chance to get I think, let me put it this way, unless he had wanted me to beat Helen Gahagen Douglas that money would never have come because I didn't know his

father at that time. I'm sure what happened is that he sold his father that well, this is one of the coming lights here, and his father was anti Communists and felt because of what I had done in the his case, which was already under the belt at that point, that he'd like to be on that side. No, I don't think he was an errand boy for his father. The money may have come from his father, but he wanted it done too. There was no question about that. He was on my side in that campaign.

Speaker 2

I mean, that's a piece of history that I hope everyone, and like you said earlier, if you're not getting to watch this, if you're listening to the audio only of this one, go watched this on YouTube because that's a really cool piece of history to see.

Speaker 4

Yeah, the video is amazing, and it's Nixon describing how JFK supported him in Nixon's Senate race when he was running for the Senate in California nineteen fifty against Helen Gaagen Douglas, who was a very very left wing Democrat, and JFK showed up number one with a thousand bucks cash and so JFK is this young congressman. He shows up with a thousand bucks cash. Now that's illegal today.

Speaker 1

Actually you can't bag man like that.

Speaker 4

You can't bring so and it was some of this came out of Watergate and came it came out of all of that. You had the initial campaign finance laws that you can't now accept that much money in cash. It has to be a check, or it has to be a credit card, or it has to be a bitcoined, but it can't be You're not allowed. I actually had a campaign rally where a guy came up to me yesterday you were there with five one hundred dollars bills and said, here, I want to give you five hundred

dollars for your campaign. And I had to tell him. I said, thank you, sir, I'm not allowed to accept that under the FEC rules, I'm not allowed to accept that much cash. You can give it as a check, you can give as a credit card, but I can't take that. And I made him keep his money. No, I don't know if he ended up giving or not, but it was an interesting moment. It is an interesting moment. And by the way, that was one thousand dollars in nineteen fifty.

Speaker 1

How much is that today? I mean to put it perspective, it's a lot.

Speaker 4

Well, I actually ran the numbers, and one thousand dollars in nineteen fifty today is thirteen thousand and fifty one dollars and forty five cents.

Speaker 1

That's how much the Kenny's wanted him to win.

Speaker 4

Thirteen grand that JFK delivered to support Nixon in his Senate race in nineteen fifty. And I don't know of another instance when a Kennedy has supported a Republican, certainly not in as high profile a race as the presidential race. So Bobby Kennedy supporting Donald Trump. Wow, like holy cow, it's been seventy four years since this has happened.

Speaker 2

When you look now at these swing states moving forward, and I think there's two takeaways that are going to be political knowledge. If I was doing a class, teaching a class in a couple of years, I would bring this up immediately.

Speaker 1

What did you learn from this endorsement?

Speaker 2

Number One, I think Americans are very much open to a cabinet, that this isn't one sided for one part of the other, and that you should look for ways to reach across the aisle because it can bridge the gap. And I think this is proof of this, with the way that the reaction has been and how terrified Democrats

are of this endorsement. Number one, but number two, I also think it tells you how important it is to listen to maybe some of the smaller candidates who are running, whether it's listening to someone like could bu Canon or a Nator or or even a Bernie Sanders. I think Democrats have done a bad job not incorporating some of that younger fill the burn into some of their later campaigns.

Hillary Clinton really pissed off the Bernie Sanders people in a major way when she was running, And I think that's part of history that people haven't looked at so much, is that, Hey, you got to make sure that you're if you're a Democrat, even if there's someone you don't like, you might want to have a bigger conversation with them.

Speaker 4

So yes, and now actually think in anyways Bernie Sanders prevailed in that race, why because his agenda became the Democrat party agenda.

Speaker 1

Yeah, but there was so disdain in it afterwards.

Speaker 4

Oh look Hillary did and I assume does, and there's no doubt. They treated Bernie and his coalition. They treated them like peasants. They gave them the back of the hand, because the Democrat Party is all about power, power, power. But my point is Bernie's positions were fringe.

Speaker 5

A decade ago.

Speaker 1

Now they're in mainstream that.

Speaker 5

They are now the heart.

Speaker 4

Every one of Bernie's positions is what Kamala Harris supports. They are one and the same. And when Trump became president, what it did is it radicalized the Democrat Party and they ended up adopting Bernie's policies. But look, you want to understand how big a deal the RFK Junior endorsement is.

Speaker 5

Just flip it.

Speaker 4

So the media is saying all day long, it's not a big deal, it's not a big deal. It doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter. They're so desperate to convince you of that that ought to tell you something. Just flip it and ask yourself if Bobby Kennedy yesterday had endorsed Kamala Harris.

Speaker 2

Twenty four to seven news coverage, I promise you seen him went and dumped out of it, which is what they did when they were covering him saying he was dropping out there.

Speaker 4

Repeat that literally during his speech, CNN cut it off. By the way, MSNBC aired the speech with no audio. They had their commentators talking over so you could see Bobby Kennedy was talking. But they here is more important to hear the lefties saying the words coming out of Kennedy's mouth do not matter. Pay no attention. You cannot listen to this. They are terrified. And if if Kennedy had endorsed Kamala, it would be twenty four to seven.

It would be the races over. This is the final that this broke the back of Trump dancing the street. Dancing the street in fact, call off the election in November. We don't even need an election game over. Let's break some of the numbers down. So I have here. Tony Fabrizio, who is Trump's polster, put out a memo just breaking down what's the impact of the RFK Junior endorsement. And if you go through the swing states, all right, I'm gonna go go go through each of them seven states.

So Arizona RFK Junior's current share of the vote right now is five percent. The breakdown within Arizona of the Kennedy. Support of the Kennedy vote, how much of it supports Trump? How much of it supports Harris? In Arizona, it's fifty three percent supports Trump, twenty eight percent supports Harris. That's a delta of twenty five percent. That's a ton of votes. If you assume the Trump supporting Kennedy votes will now

vote for Trump, that's a big chunk. How about Georgia, Georgia, Kennedy has three percent and the delta is forty seven percent for Trump, thirty four percent for Harris. That's a delta of thirteen percent, again favoring Trump. Michigan Kennedy has four percent of the vote. The delta there is forty three percent for Trump, forty one percent for Harris. That's the closest, but even that's plus two percent for Trump.

How about North Carolina? North Carolina, Kennedy has three percent, but the breakdown there fifty eight percent for Trump, twenty two percent for Harris. That's a delta of thirty six percent for Trump. Nevada, Nevada, Kennedy has four percent. The delta between the two art this is going to be stunning. What do you think the delta is between the two.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's got to be in the in the in the teens. I would assume because because of taxes, it's.

Speaker 5

Much much higher than that.

Speaker 4

Really, Trump sixty six percent, Harris sixteen percent, the delta is fifty percent.

Speaker 1

Is that because the tax issue there?

Speaker 5

I don't know why it is.

Speaker 4

I just I'm just reading numbers from Brizio's memo. So it doesn't doesn't say why. Let me do the last two swing states. Pennsylvania, Kennedy has four percent of the vote. Trump has of that four percent, Trump has forty nine percent, Harris has thirty five. That's a delta of thirteen percent. And finally, Wisconsin, Kennedy has four percent of the vote. Trump has fifty five percent of that share. Harris has twenty five percent of that share. That is a delta

a plus thirty percent. What does all of that mean. It means the impact is very possibly one to two to three points in Trump's direction in each of those swing states. That is a big, big deal in an election that could easily be decided by one or two percentage points, this endorsement could very possibly change the outcome of the election.

Speaker 5

I think a week ago, after.

Speaker 4

A month of of relentless media propaganda. According to the public polling, Kamala Harris was winning in all the swing states but Georgia, which would suggest if the election had happened a week ago, that Kamala would have won. If these numbers moved two or three percent towards Trump, it could well be the difference that gives Trump the election in November.

Speaker 2

I want to pull back the curtain a little bit. And in campaigns, when you're running for president, you have daily surrogate calls and it's the campaign usually senior staff that runs them, and they kind of give out like some data or the talking points of what we're doing today, what the messaging is today.

Speaker 4

You've done that, so, yeah, you were on the two thousand and four Yeah, George W. Bush reelect you were part of the media team. So you've actually been part of those calls.

Speaker 2

Yes, And they're fun because some days they're just kind of like you check the box, like not a lot's changed the day before, but you do it and it's like, hey, we're still on this, or hey, there's a story of this data point, or make sure if you're on TV you mentioned this. So I'm on the Trump ones now, and I can tell you just the feeling on the call, the excitement with this endorsement, with this big guess that they were having at the rally, and everybody knew what

it was like. It's not hard to figure it out. You knew it was going to be this. It was different and it was all about these swing states.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 2

And I tell people, because like you do those calls every day and they become the same in a sense, there are certain days where things are different, and this was one of those days where it just felt different.

Speaker 4

Well, and listen, what Kennedy did this cycle was a big deal. Getting on the ballot all across the country. It is hard to get on the presidential ballot as an independent candidate. He got he said it said, they're over a million signatures. Those are a bunch of people that were energized, that were inspired that we're excited.

Speaker 5

Now.

Speaker 4

Not all of them are going to vote for Trump, but if a majority of them, if a significant majority, do that's a big deal. And it is why the corrupt corporate media desperately.

Speaker 5

Wants you not even to know about it and not to care.

Speaker 1

Center.

Speaker 2

One last just point I got to bring up, and I think it's an important one.

Speaker 1

The Democratic Convention.

Speaker 2

Was so worried about people not watching on the final night when Kamwa was gonna be speaking, that they just started putting out lies and leaks.

Speaker 8

Uh.

Speaker 1

It made me laugh.

Speaker 2

Don Lemmy, for example, said I have sources of saying that either Taylor Swift's gonna show up or Beyonce or George W. Bush is gonna speak of the Democratic Convention. And then he says, stay tuned, like clear propaganda. George Bush was not showing up to endorse Kamwa Harris, no way in hell. But then they had this Beyonce thing out there or Taylor Swift out there, so the numbers would be massive watching the convention, and it was all I.

Speaker 4

Well, look, Don Lemon used to pretend to be a real journalist, and he just happily was pushing out propaganda. I mean, the idea that George W. Bush was going to show up was always absurd and was laughable. But you're right, it was designed to get people to tune in, whether it was Taylor Swift or Beyonce. They wanted to do something to draw up some excitement to get people to watch. But look, I gotta say that that night

I was. I was on Fox. I was on Jesse Waters and I actually said, Jesse, I want to break some news.

Speaker 5

So I have an.

Speaker 4

Internal leak from within the White House that has come out. I know who the mystery guest is. It's l Choppo. El Choppo is going to address the convention. And the reason is simple. They were brainstorming who's benefited the most from Kamala Harris's policies, and as they talked about it, they could not come up with anyone who has benefited

more than Mexican drug lords. Yeah, and so El Choppo, I'm told and again this is a leak from the Biden White House that Kamala personally raised the bail money to bail.

Speaker 5

Yes.

Speaker 4

L Choppo's in jail, but she's very good at raising bail money for people in jail. So they bailed him out to fly into Chicago to speak on stage and say, let me tell you, are you better off than you were four years ago? To all my drug dealing compatriots, we are much better off. So c sip whether it turned out my prediction was wrong, but boy it would have been appropriate because it sure is accurate.

Speaker 2

Who's benefited as before If you want to hear the rest of this conversation on this topic, you can go back and down the podcast from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. I want to get back to the big story number three of the week. You may have missed when you look at this interview, and it obviously depends on who you talk to. Right, you go and look at conservative headlines and it's like train wreck.

CNM pushes Kamala Harris hard on issues. Another headline says Harris unprepared, no good answers, Waltz hit on stolen valor. VP defends Bidenomics, fails to explain why she did not lower prices. I mean, the headlines, my point is, are all over the place, but on Bidenomics is a great example.

Speaker 1

She referred to it as good work. Center.

Speaker 2

It's good work. Really like Bidenomics, which has been a disaster. She says, no, no, no, it's not not really a disaster. It's pretty good work.

Speaker 8

And you maintain Bidenomics is a success.

Speaker 3

I maintain that when we do the work of brandown prescription medication for the American people, including capping the cost of the annual cost of prescription medication for seniors at two thousand dollars, When we do what we did in the first year of being in office to extend the child tax credit so that we cut child poverty in America by over fifty percent.

Speaker 1

When we do what we have done.

Speaker 3

To invest in the American people in bringing manufacturing back to the United States, so that we created over eight hundred thousand new manufacturing jobs, bringing business back to America. What we have done to improve the supply chain so we're not relying on foreign governments to supply American families with their basic needs. I'll say that that's good work. There's more to do, but that's good work.

Speaker 2

I mean, where do you even start grocery prices, home prices, food? I mean, do you want to go with?

Speaker 4

But let me give my bottom line. This interview did absolutely nothing to impact the presidential election in November. The Kamala Harris campaign is high fiving. They're thrilled because now they have an excuse not to do another interview for at least another month, because they'll say they did an interview, so they will quickly rush her back to the Joe Biden's basement and hide her there. And all this was was a campaign commercial. What she's saying there, she's reading

their talking points, the headlines you read. I don't know what outlets they are, but I'm going to guess that everyone that says train wreck is a right of center outlet. You've got Bright barton Fox News and all of those, and you know what, So what the people reading that aren't going to vote for her anyway. Like, I don't think there was a single thing in this interview that moved even one voter to change how they're going to vote in November. And if there was, I'm sorry to

say it moved them towards Kamala Harris. Because if there's a voter who's a naive and ignorant voter who doesn't know any thing, they listened to twenty some odd minutes of her reading campaign talking points.

Speaker 5

Look foreign policy.

Speaker 4

On foreign policy, okay, there was no question about Ukraine and the disaster that the administration is done on that. There was no question about Afghanistan and the disaster there. There was no question about why Joe Biden denied that thirteen servicemen and women were killed in Afghanistan due to their utter incompetence and the disgrace of this administration. None of those were questions. The question was instead about Israel

and what did it do. It gave Kamala Harris a chance to say October seventh was terrible and to say I will always stand for Israel. And Dana Bash asked, as president, will you cut off weapons to Israel? And Kamala Harris refuses to answer. She says Israel has a right to defend itself, doesn't answer the question at all. Okay, Dana, here's a crazy question. Joe Biden. Right now, this instant, your administration has frozen weapons to Israel. Is not sending

the weapons to Israel that Congress appropriated. Do you agree with that? Is Joe Biden wrong to refuse to send weapons to Israel. That would be a real question. So of course Dana Bash didn't ask that. She also didn't ask uh meda vice president. You and Joe Biden sent

hundreds of millions of dollars to Gaza. You did so after your administration concluded that it was likely that that money would be used by Hamas to carry out terrorism in light of October seventh, in light of the determination that it was highly likely that was your administration's determination, it would be used for terrorism? Was it a mistake to send hundreds of millions of dollars that were highly

likely to be used by terrorism? By the way, you want to talk foreign policy Iran, your administration, Madame Vice President, has sent over one hundred billion dollars to Iran. Iran provides ninety percent of the funding for Hamas, ninety percent of the funding for Hesbela. In a very real sense, the death squads on October seventh was funded by your administration. Do you regret that? Was that a mistake? Men and Vice president? Why do you continue today to refuse to

enforce the oil sanctions against Iran? Why are you allowing Iran to sell two million barrels a day of oil? When you became vice president, they were selling three hundred thousand barrels a day. It was crushing the Iranian economy. And men and Vice President, by the way, on fracking, you said a minute ago you weren't at a man fracking. Why is it that you're so eager to support oil and gas production in Iran led by a theocratic lunatic

who chanced death to America. But you and your administration had put in regulation after regulation hammering oil and gas jobs in the United States. Those are questions an actual journalist would ask.

Speaker 2

There's only one moment in this whole debate center that or I should say this television interview that I think that the Trump campaign could really use to their advantage in a TV ad, And I want to play it for you at your thoughts, because there was this moment for me where I was like, Okay, maybe this is useful.

Speaker 5

So you have been vice president for three and a half years.

Speaker 6

The steps that you're talking about, now, why haven't you done them already?

Speaker 3

Well, first of all, we had to recover as an economy, and we have done that. I'm very proud of the work that we have done that has brought inflation down to less than three percent, the work that we have done to cap the cost of insulin at thirty five dollars a month for seniors. Donald Trump said he was going to do a number of things, including allowing Medicare

to negotiate drug prices. Never happened. We did it so now and as I travel in the state of Georgia and around our country, the number of seniors that have benefited I've met. I was in Nevada recently a grandmother who showed me her receipts, and before we capped the cost of insulin for seniors at thirty five dollars a US, she was playing hundreds of dollars up to thousands of dollars a month for her insulin. She's not doing that anyman.

Speaker 2

I mean, that's that It might be your only moment where you could say, Okay, maybe we can make a campaign out of this that why didn't you do what you say you're.

Speaker 5

Going to do now? And I'm not with you on that.

Speaker 4

I actually think Dana Bash gave her a perfect opportunity, give me your talking point. So the only questions that she had that were sort of pretend questions. When she asked Tim Waltz about stolen valor, it was a softball for him to give a speech about how much how important military service is and how much he loves America. When she asked her that question, Look, it's such an obvious question that it was sort of like, what is your talking point in response to this? And that whole

riff there. If you are a voter who's not paying much attention, he doesn't know the record, that riff sounds pretty good, Okay, So we had a pandemic. You had to deal with that, and then hey, we did this thing on insulin. I'm not sure what the thing on insulin is. The person listening might be I'm saying, but you told me about a woman who had really high receipts and then they went down. So wow, Okay, apparently you did something. That whole riff is a prepared riff.

That is their defense, and there is there was nothing actually calling to account for the actual record, the disaster of the record. But by the way, going back to the border, her statements were not just not just the statement you raise your hand and said that you would decriminalize illegal immigration. You've also said you would abolish ICE. You still want to abolish ICE. You've also said the wall was ridiculous. Do you still want to do that? Well,

now you've said you want to build the wall. You know her positions you said, and by the way, a real interview would would play this. You said on day one you would shut down every ICE detention center and you would not detain illegal immigrants. Bobler to believe that abolished,

but also shut down the detention centers. You know, you know what was nowhere in the question Joscelyn Nungery, lacln Riley, Rachel Marin, Like a real question would be lacln Riley was killed by an illegal immigrant that you and Joe Biden released. Was that a mistake to release that immigrant? Rachel Marin was raped and murdered by nate legal immigrant that you and Joe Biden released. Was that a mistake

to release that illegal immigrant? Joscelyn Nungary was was was raped and killed by two illegal immigrants that you and Joe Biden released. Was that a mistake to release that immigrant? How many is enough? Like that actually would be laying out and have you changed anything? Why do you continue to release illegal immigrants who go on every day to murder Americans, to rape women, to violate children. You know, we talked about in the previous podcasts, the they just

halted their plan. Your administration flew into America over three hundred thousand illegal immigrants a year, flew them in. They didn't cross the border. You flew them in from Haiti, from Cuba, from Nicaragua and Venezuela. One of the illegal immigrants you flew in, you flew into Boston. You released him in Boston and he raped a fifteen year old girl with severe mental disabilities. Was that a mistake to fly into this country an illegal immigrant who raped a teenage girl?

Speaker 5

You know what?

Speaker 4

Those are hard questions for her to answer. That's why she doesn't do interviews. But she still doesn't do interviews. This was not an interview. They sat there and knew Dana Bash is part of the campaign. Just like if she was sitting there with Kareeine John Pierre to do a fake interview, they'd know they would never get those questions because those are questions that are a real problem. They knew they'd never get them from Dana Bash either.

Speaker 1

Senator.

Speaker 2

Finally, on this, I want to go over the list. It was an interesting that was thrown out right after the interview. Trump and Vance put this out in the campaign. It said, here are all the things kamla Ayrs failed to address tonight with CNN. Kamma was support for ending cash bail for violent criminals. Kam was fundraising for the Minnesota Freedom Fund, which freed rioters. Coma was tie breaking vote for the American Rescue Plan, which economists say fueled inflation.

Coma was support support for defunding the Police com was comments comparing policing to slavery. Kama was repeated praise of bid nomics. Comma was support for Medicare for all, a socialist takeover of our healthcare system. And that's just some of the highlights here. Is that really what this election is going to be about? And is that what he has to bring out in the debate that's going to be coming up fairly soon.

Speaker 5

Yes.

Speaker 4

Look, Look, if this election is on Kamala's record and Donald Trump's record, If this election is on the issues, we win. If it's not, if it is all about out hopey, changey joy and Trump derangement syndrome, then Kamala could win, and the media is going to spend billions of dollars trying to cover up all of the substantive issues. Look,

you want to see what propaganda is like. Look at the last two questions Dana Bash has now, I understand this is the first interview in over a month of the Democrat nominee to be president, So she has been hiding from interviews for more than a month. Like every

question is precious real estate. Her last two questions, she turns to Tim Waltz and says, oh, there was an amazing image of your son at the convention, so excited, saying I'm proud of my dad, and they play the video and he says, oh, I'm so that was an amazing moment in his dad, I feel great, Like cue the music. Could we put some kittens and puppies around him, you know, maybe hearts like he's a soft, tender dad.

And then that's not enough. Then she turns to Kamala, Oh, there was a picture from the convention of your niece, an adorable little girl with two pigtails, and the picture shows her looking at you, speaking, gazing adoringly. It was inspirational. It's a moment, Oh, Kamala, I mean, this is not journalism. This is Kareem. John Pierre would not have gushed more. If it was the campaign putting out a fake documentary. The fake documentary would have closed with those two questions

and the image. In fact, they would have faded out on the image of the little girl with pigtails gazing at Kamala as an inspirational hero. That was CNN's objective. And that's a lot of things, but you know what, it ain't.

Speaker 5

It ain't journalism.

Speaker 2

As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Sentner, Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal with my podcast and you can listen to my podcast every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts and we will see you back here on Monday morning.

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