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Ivy League Presidents BOMB before Congress, plus Dems Fight to Cover Up Jeffrey Epstein Flight Logs

Dec 11, 202344 minEp. 318
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Speaker 1

Senator going to be with you as always in person this week. As if you're listening to this, this is also a video version as well. You can grab it on YouTube and on Facebook as well. Also parts of it will be on X So make sure that you go and see some of these clips that we're going to be having for you if you're listening audio only. I want to start with this shocking week coming out of Washington, DC. You had the presidents of several of these Ivy League schools. They were asked to come and

testify before Congress about anti Semitism on college campuses. Now, you would think they would have been prepped by their staffs, by their pr groups at the university to hound to not screw this up. If they were prepped, everyone that prepped them should be fired because they didn't do anything to make Jewish students feel more comfortable or feel safe

on their college campuses. And it really, I think shocked the nation that these universities clearly were refusing to condemn anti semitism on their campus.

Speaker 2

Well, that's exactly right. This week was very consequential. You know, since October seventh, on this podcast, we have covered in virtually every episode either what is happening on the ground in Israel, what is happening in Gaza, what is happening with Hamas, or the corporate media's bias pro Hamas bias undermining Israel, or the vicious anti Semitism that we're seeing on the left, whether it's the squad in the House

of Representatives or whether it is on university campuses. I will say the testimony of three university presidents that occurred last week in the House of Representatives was extremely consequential. You had the president of Harvard University, you had the president of Penn and you had the president of MIT. I cannot think of testimony that has gone worse for the witnesses in my time in the Senate. Wow, it

was a train wreck. It is reminiscent of you have to go back more than a decade to when the Tobacco CEOs testified before Congress and it was blood, blood all over the hearing room. I mean, it went badly. These university presidents demonstrated zero understanding of the vicious anti Semitism that suffuses their institution, zero understanding, zero empathy, and they thoroughly embrace the rot of cultural Marxism.

Speaker 3

And it was.

Speaker 2

And throughout it all their testimony, they were smug, They were condescending, that they had a know it all attitude, that that almost every question it was how dare you ask me this question?

Speaker 3

So let's start with just a little.

Speaker 2

Exchange of of Elise Stefanik, who is who is a member of Republican leadership in the House. Elise is a Harvard graduate. She and I together led a letter of members of Congress who are Harvard graduates denouncing Harvard's treatment of Jewish students, denouncing their inability to stand up and condemn October seventh, their inability to condemn the homos atrocities,

and at least did a terrific job. Here She's asking what should be a very simple question, how many Jewish students are there on campus at Harvard?

Speaker 3

Give a listen, doctor Gay.

Speaker 4

According to the Hillel College Guide, the Crimson Freshman Survey, and even Harvard's own Education Next Journal, the population of Jewish undergrads at Harvard has plummeted from roughly twenty five percent in the nineteen eighties to between five and ten percent.

Speaker 5

Now, why is that that is not data that we collect as part of the admissions process, So I can't speak to those numbers or to the trajectory.

Speaker 4

So what is the percentage of students who are Jewish at Harvard in undergraduate Now, we.

Speaker 5

Do not collect religious affiliation as part of the admissions process.

Speaker 4

Do you not rely on data collected by Harvard Hillel what you visited for for the first time after October seventh? I'll just be honest with you. When I was a freshman, I enjoyed going to Harvard Hillel and had the opportunity to celebrate Shabbat dinners with my fellow undergrads. The fact that it took you until after October seventh to go to Harvard Hillel is unacceptable, you'll back, I.

Speaker 3

Mean, sinner. You listen to that.

Speaker 1

There's a lot of data, and universities love sharing data about how diverse their student body is. I remember going back on trips, as you know, when you're trying to figure ou where we're gonna go to college, and they had every breakdown of everything. I guarantee you they probably know how many transgendered students are on campus.

Speaker 2

Let's cut cut to the chase. She's lying, She's flat out lying. I do not believe her. Listen, this is the Harvard admissions process. That is the most Bean county admission process ever. They've got a quota for one legged transgender opera singers. Like it it is, And by the way, it is Harvard, at Clauding Gay's direction, that was litigating in the Supreme Court to defend their right to discriminate based on race. And by the way, she says, we

don't keep track of religious affiliation. Well, being Jewish as two things. It is a religion. Judaism is a religion, but it is also an ethnicity. There are people who are ethnically Jewish. There are people who are ethnically Jewish who can religiously be another faith. They can be Christians. There are Messianic Jews who are ethnically Jewish, but yet their religion is Christianity. There are Jews who are atheists who are not do not follow Judaism, but are none

the less Jews. And by the way, there are people who are non Jews who nonetheless convert to the Jewish faith. So when she says, well, we don't know how many Jews there are, I do not believe her, And in fact, I would be willing to wager a large amount of money. The statement that we don't collect a data on how many Jews there are in the admissions process as a flat out lie, because they so, I certainly look to race and ethnicity, and being Jewish is an ethnicity, and

let me put out also a broader irony. Look, Harvard has a terrible record when it comes to racial discrimination. Harvard is an institution that believes in racial discrimination. In the nineteen fifties, Harvard had what were called Jewish quotas. They capped the number of Jews wow, who were allowed into their classes, and they formally capped them because and they were starting to move to a more meritocratic admissions process,

and Jewish students were doing well. They were getting good test scores, good grades, so they were getting in on merits in a higher percentage. And so Harvard stepped in and said, we don't want too many Jews, and so they put Jewish quotas in place. So for a Harvard professor, the president of Harvard to say, well, we don't know, Look, Harvard Hillel is a student organization on campus, I have to admit the stats that Elie Stefanic just said.

Speaker 3

Yeah, we actually that was shocking just on its face.

Speaker 2

I mean, I can tell you when I was at Harvard for law school, when I was at Princeton for undergrad the stats she mentioned when she was there, it was about twenty five percent Jewish. That feels about right to me of what it was then. I don't know the stats from my time there, but it was a significant percentage of the class. A lot of my friends were Jewish. It it was a large percentage of the class. If Harvard is down to five to ten percent, that

is a stunning drop. And you would think Harvard Hillell would keep those records. It says a lot that the president of Harvard had never been to Harvard Hillel. So apparently when it comes to student groups, that's not one she cares about at all. But number two, there is a blind spot. University administrators are base in cultural Marxism in the views of the radical left.

Speaker 1

For people that listen, they may not know the definition of cultural Marxism. We talked about it a lot, especially in this context, say can you just give that definition again, because I think it's so important to understand it.

Speaker 3

Well.

Speaker 2

Karl Marx, when he wrote The Communist manifesto. He laid out a view of the world, and it was a view based on economic determinism, and it was a view of inevitable conflict, conflict between oppressors and victims. And for Marx he used a socioeconomic lens. So the oppressors were the owners of capital and the victims were the proletariat, the working men and women. And the solution that he advocated was the violent revolution of the proletariat against the oppressors.

Cultural Marxism uses the mechanisms of culture to frame the world through a Marxist lens, but not just socioeconomics. So today the cultural Marxists, they look at Israel and they have coded. They have defined Jews as oppressors. They look at Israel and Gaza, they have coded, they have defined Palestinians as victims. Once that is the case, ideologically, the cultural Marxists support the violent revolution of the so called

victims against the so called oppressors. It's why thirty five student groups at Harvard cheered on the Hamas atrocities and said every murder, every rape, every child that was slaughtered is one hundred percent the fault of Israel. Because cultural Marxists celebrate when so called victims are murdering so called oppressors.

It's why black lives matter. The Chicago chapter set out a tweet of a paraglider, the same paraglider that Hamas terrorists used to murder hundreds of Israelis at the outdoor music concert, saying we stand with Palestine. They're celebrating the mass murder of civilians. Why because in this their worldview, those civilians were the oppressors, and so they root for

the violence. These administrators, the reason why you're seeing such vicious anti Semitism on campus is they have bought into the view that Jews are colonial settlers, they are oppressive, and so we should all celebrate in their view when the oppressors are slaughtered. It is grotesque, and we're going to play right now a segment of questioning that that is enormously consequestional. I tell you what you're about to watch, what you're about to listen to, has already resulted in

one of these three witnesses being fired. As we stand here today, Liz McGill, the president of Penn, lost her job because of how she answered this question. By the way, the chairman of the board of Trustees of Penn lost his job because of how Liz Miguil answered this question. So that's one and I think we could eat easily see all three of these college presidents lose their jobs because of this testimony. So if you're watching on YouTube,

watch and see their expressions. If you're listening, give a listen.

Speaker 4

At MIT, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate MIT's code of conduct or rules regarding bullying and harassment?

Speaker 6

Yes?

Speaker 7

Or no?

Speaker 8

I've targeted at individuals not making public statements.

Speaker 4

Yes or no. Calling for the genocide of Jews does not constitute bullying and harassment.

Speaker 8

I have not heard calling for the genocide for Jews on our campus.

Speaker 4

But you've heard Chance for intifada.

Speaker 8

I've heard Chance, which can be antisemitic depending on the context, when calling for the elimination of the Jewish people.

Speaker 4

So those would not be according to the MIT's code of conduct or rules.

Speaker 8

That would be investigated as harassment if pervasive and severe.

Speaker 4

Ms Miguil at Penn does calling for the genocide of Jews violate PENS rules or code of conduct? Yes or no.

Speaker 9

If the speech turns into conduct, it can be harassment.

Speaker 4

I am asking, specifically calling for the genocide of Jews. Does that constitute bullying harassment?

Speaker 9

If it is directed and severer pervasive, it is harassment.

Speaker 4

So the answer is yes.

Speaker 9

It is a context dependent decision, Congresswoman.

Speaker 4

It's a context dependent decision. That's your testimony today. Calling for the genocide of Jews is depending upon the context, that is not bullying or harassment. This is the easiest question to answer, yes, miss McGill. So is your testimony that you will not answer yes?

Speaker 10

If it.

Speaker 9

Is yes, or though if the speech becomes conduct it can be harassment.

Speaker 4

Yes, conduct meaning committing the act of genocide. The speech is not harassment. This is unacceptable, Miss micuil. I'm going to give you one more opportunity for the world to see your answer. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate pens code of conduct when it comes to bullying and harassment?

Speaker 9

Yes? Or no? It can be harassment.

Speaker 4

The answer is yes. And doctor Gay at Harvard, does calling for the genocide of Jews violate Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment? Yes?

Speaker 5

Or no? It can be depending on the context.

Speaker 4

What's the context?

Speaker 5

Target it as an individual targeted at an individual it's.

Speaker 4

Targeted at Jewish students, Jewish individuals. Do you understand your testimony is dehumanizing them? Do you understand that dehumanization is part of anti semitism? I will ask you one more time. Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate eight Harvard's rules of bullying and harassment? Yes?

Speaker 7

Or no?

Speaker 5

Anti Semitic rhetoric?

Speaker 4

And is it anti Semitic rhetoric?

Speaker 5

Anti Semitic rhetoric when it crosses into conduct that amounts to bullying, harassment, intimidation, that is actionable conduct, and we do take action.

Speaker 4

So the answer is yes, that calling for the genocide of Jews violates Harvard Code of Conduct. Correct.

Speaker 5

Again, it depends on the context.

Speaker 4

It does not depend on the context. The answer is yes, and this is why you should resign. These are unacceptable answers across the board.

Speaker 1

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not caught off guard. Now, they knew that this was going to be a rigorous back and forth, and they were deliberate in their anti Semitic stands here.

Speaker 3

This was not an accident.

Speaker 2

All three of those presidents side with the protesters ideologically. When they see crazed anti Semitic protesters chanting from the river to the sea. By the way, from the river to the sea means from the Jordan river to the sea, it is calling for the annihilation of every Jew in Israel. That's what from the river to the sea means. When they chant into fada. Intifada was the war that the Palestinians that Hamas waged on Israel, murdering Israeli civilians. They

are calling for death. Every one of those college professors they're rooting for the protesters as they walk past them. They view the protesters as the good guys, and they view their Jewish students as the bad guys. That's why this question was so difficult for them. Look it also, it's worth noting when it comes to genocide, this is not an abstract question concerning the Jewish people. The Jewish people were the subject of the most horrific genocide in

the history of humanity. Adolf Hitler and the Nazis murdered over six million Jews, systematically murdered them in concentration camps. Anti Semitism is an evil that has been on the face of this planet for millennia. It is a union Ni evil. It is a persistent evil, and we are seeing it and you know, at least stefanic. At the end, she pointed out that that you're dehumanizing the Jewish students. Notice Clauding Gay, the president of Harvard. She said, well,

it depends if it's particularized. What part of we should kill all the Jews is not particularized. If you're a Jewish student and someone is screaming at you kill all the Jews, that's pretty damn particularized. If someone goes to you and screams kill everyone named Ben, you'd feel pretty particularized by that. Yeah, and this is not speech. This is not arguing about we should have a one state or two state solution in the Middle East. This is not a public policy debate about.

Speaker 3

It's not a great baby. It's genocide.

Speaker 2

It is, and it's harassment and threats. Look, the first of those witnesses, Sally Cornluth, who's the president of MIT. MIT has allowed Jewish students to be kept out of class, so their ideology is directly interfering with carrying out their pedagogical mission, the mission of a university to educate their students. Jewish students have repeatedly reported being afraid to go to class because they're being threatened with violence, and the MIT president won't do a damn thing about it. She won't

protect her Jewish students each one of those individuals. Look, Liz McGill, I actually know so. Liz clerked with me. Really so the year I clerked on the Supreme Court, I clerked for Chief Justice Renquist. She clerked for Ruth Bader Ginsburg, so I knew her then. She's a lawyer. Very smart. You know, she was always kind of lefty. She was fairly benign. She was nice enough among the clerks. There were clerks that were really very partisan and very lefty.

Liz McGill never seemed excessively so, but she was happily in the left life left of the clerks. She's a law professor. She was the dean at Stanford, she was the provost at Virginia. Now she's the president of Penn. I'll tell you why she was fired. She was fired because a number of donors stood up and said, we're cutting off the cash.

Speaker 3

One of them was threatening one hundred million.

Speaker 2

Dollars multiple donors. I sat down with Mark Rowan, who's the chair of the of the board of trustees of Wharton, which is one of the schools, the business school at Penn. He was calling for her to be fired. He was helping lead the fight. We've seen multiple people. We've seen Ronald Louder threatened to cut off the money he provides to Pen. We saw the Huntsman family that had been big donors threatened to cut off the money to Pen.

That's one of the very few ways to get a woke university's attention is go after the money and listen, I think there's a very good chance that the presidents of Harvard and MIT could be fired as well. But I'll tell you both those institutions are hoping this just blows.

Speaker 1

They're defending them in essence by not firing them right away after they witnessed this testimony.

Speaker 2

This testimony was a train wreck. And look, it's worth noting also none of the three expressed one iota of empathy. None of them expressed what a Jewish student would feel walking down the sidewalk and having protesters not engaging in speech but threatening and harassing. Look, I am a free speech absolutist, but free speech does not protect the right to make threats or harassment, threats of violence. Why is it that the MIT students couldn't go to class because

they were afraid of being injured physically harmed. Why is it we talked about this on an earlier verdict that the USC professor, an economics professor, what happens to be Jewish? Why did USC ban the Jewish professor from stepping foot on campus because anti Semitic protesters threatened him with violence and the administrators at USC side with the protesters and not their own professor. Yeah, none of the three of

them have the tiniest bit of empathy. Look, we've seen footage of students at Harvard, Jewish students at Harvard being harassed. There's a difference between engaging in free speech and engaging in active harassment. And by the way, all three of them hate free speech, every one of them. If you miss gender someone game on. If you see Leah Thomas who's built like Michael Phelps and is anatomically a dude, and if you make that point that is in their view,

that's clearly harassment. It's clearly over the line.

Speaker 3

Now that's when you can get kicked out of school.

Speaker 2

But if you call for the genocide of the entire Jewish people, that, as they say, depends on the context.

Speaker 1

Two things I want to ask you quickly on this. Number one, even the president that was fired still got to keep tenured job as a professor.

Speaker 2

Yeah, at the university. So there's your golden parishes. She's in the law school, she gets paid. She never a lead professor.

Speaker 3

Yeah, autumn I mean that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you got demoted, but you still kept your basic job at your tenure job in the law school, in doctrinting, kids, which brings me to my question too. When you were growing up, and it was the same way for me, you wanted to go to the best school you could get into, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, you know, Wharton. I had friends that went there, for example, that was the Holy Grail.

I look at this now and I would say to any parent out there, just because your kid can get in now, doesn't necessarily mean you want your kid to go there, in my opinion, because the way that they're indoctrinating and not protecting people, for example, that are Jewish,

do you want to give them your money? And is it time as a country that we step back and go, Okay, let's look at where you know you're what they're teaching your kid now, not the history of these universities because they're not the same that they were from ten to fifteen, twenty thirty years ago.

Speaker 2

So let me say this is not theoretical or hypothetical. Since October seventh, I've had a lot of conversations with friends of mine or a Jewish. I've probably had between fifty and one hundred conversations with friends of mine or a Jewish. It's interesting. I've asked many most of them, I've asked, Hey, did you have family or friends that were in Israel that were impacted on October seventh. I

got to say, it's been stunning to me. It's been about half the people I've asked who are friends of mine, answered yes that they personally were affected, that they personally had a nephew, had a niece, had their son's best friend, had a roommate that either in some instances, they had friends or family who were killed or were kidnapped on October seventh, or in more instances, they have friends or family who'd been called up at the IDF and who were fighting.

Speaker 3

Hamas right now.

Speaker 2

In those conversations, I've also had conversations with multiple friends of mine who were about our age, and they have college age kids, and they have kids that are at these universities, and I've heard, i would say north of a dozen of my friends have directly related to me

that their kids feel unsafe in college right now. Wow, And it's close to one hundred percent of the friends of mine who have Jewish children that are in college right now, pretty much all of them are saying their kids are reporting they don't feel safe, they don't feel protected. They're afraid to go out.

Speaker 6

You know.

Speaker 2

One friend of mine was discussing how his daughter and another group of Jewish students, they were studying abroad in Spain, and they decided when they were they were traveling around in Spain, and they decided, when we book the train tickets, when we book the hotel tickets, we'll have the friend of ours who has the least Jewish sounding name, We'll book it under that name, because they're afraid of violence. Unbelievable,

simply because of being identified as being Jewish. This is real, it is pervasive, and these universities are teaching this, they're indoctrinating this, they're allowing this hate to fester, and it's grotesque.

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those planes. And Dick Durbin kind of wanted to have it both ways, claiming, Hey, I didn't really know about this, so therefore I don't have to do it, but I'm willing to talk about it. But this should be a simple like yes or no question for him. Do you want Epstein's call, you know, flight logs to be out there, yes. Do we want to know who's on those planes?

Speaker 3

Yes? Do we want to know who's involved in this human and sex trafficking? Yes?

Speaker 1

So why is he defending it? And you may have been as shocked as I was. This doesn't seem like a smart political move yet. Maybe there's so many Democrats that he's trying to protect. Here are big donors. I don't understand it.

Speaker 2

Yeah, look, look Durbin is doing everything he can to cover this up, to hide the Jeffrey Epstein flight logs. H Take take a look right here. This is a Fox News reporter questioning Dick Derbin as he walks to a judiciary committee. Hearing give a listen, I.

Speaker 6

Don't know anything about his flight locks.

Speaker 10

Why won't you subpoena them? Why don't you want to know the issue?

Speaker 11

I know who epscene was, but I certainly don't know anything about the issue.

Speaker 10

Well, he was charged with sex trafficking, so why don't you want to know who was utilizing his private plane?

Speaker 6

Never been raised by anyone.

Speaker 10

Well, Senator Blackburn has wanted to subpoena them, and there hasn't been a vote in your commission.

Speaker 6

But a word to me, not a word?

Speaker 10

But aren't you curious, like what high profile or powerful people might be closeted predators and pedophiles? Doesn't that concern you? So why won't you subpoena them? If you can?

Speaker 6

It's the first time anyone has raised it. Thank you Fox.

Speaker 10

So do you are you curious about it?

Speaker 6

Will you do it?

Speaker 10

All?

Speaker 6

Right?

Speaker 2

So Durban is lying, just like when Claudie and Gay said her doesn't know how many Jewish students we have? Belooney, yes they do. Durban is flat outlined. Let me give you some backstory. This fight occurred in the context and we talked about this in a podcast about a week ago, where the Democrats subpoenaed Harlan Crowe and Leonard Leo. Harlan Crowe, very successful real estate developer based here in Texas and Dallas.

Leonard Leo has been very active with the Federalist Society for a long time, very active in helping with judicial selection, in fighting for constitutionalist judges. The Democrats hate them, and the subpoenas going after Harlan Crowe and going after Leonard Leo are part of their ongoing effort to harass the Supreme Court, to delegitimize the Supreme Court, and in particular

to target Clarence Thomas. They despise Clarence Thomas. So in response to that, a number of Republicans had different amendments that we were pushing. But if they were going to force a vote on the subpoenas, we were going to force a vote on our amendments. So when we went into it, I had an amendment that would subpoena the GPS data for Hunter Biden's cell phone and Joe Biden's cell phone at the exact moment that Hunter Biden sent the WhatsApp text to the Chinese communists saying I'm sitting

here next to my father. Because we know from the irs whistleblowers that when the investigators wanted to find out was he in fact sitting next to Joe Biden when he was extorting the Chinese communists. The Biden DOJ blocked that and said, Nope, you can't find that out. So that's what I wanted to tee up. I think that was important. I think we should have voted for it. I'm going to continue to look for an avenue to

vote for it. Marsha Blackburn came up with, I think it even better idea of a subpoena to vote on, and her idea was that we should subpoena the Epstein estate for the flight logs to his plane and in particular the Lalita expressed the the private jet that flew down to Jeffrey Epstein's island with lots and lots of politicians, allegedly mostly Democrats. We don't know, we don't know who was on it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, show it if there's a Republican find like, find out who they are.

Speaker 2

Now we do know that Epstein was an original friend of Bill, that he was very close with Bill Clinton. He was so close with Bill Clinton. Do you know what Jeffrey Epstein had hanging on the wall? And maybe one of the creepiest weirdest things ever. Yeah, go go ahead and tell everybody, because since it's truly shocking, a painting of Bill Clinton wearing a blue dress Monica red high heeled pumps, like, it's just weird. Yeah, that's what Epstein had hanging on his wall in his New York house.

So Marsha Blackburn introduced an amendment to subpoena the flight logs. I thought her idea was fantastic, so I co sponsored her her amendment. So it was a Blackburn Cruise amendment to subpoena the flight logs. Now, the first time we were going to vote on the subpoenas on Harlan Crow and Leonardale, we didn't vote on them. And I can tell you, like all the Republicans, we were all ready for combat. Let's go battle the Democrats. This is a

partisan witch hunt. And what happened. So back behind the diis, there's a conference room where the Judiciary Committee meets. You have the diis there and behind it there's a conference room and you can go and have meetings there. I can tell you Dick Durbin was sitting in that conference room with John Ossoff, the freshman Democrat senator from Georgia who serves on Judiciary, and Durbin and Osoff were having a heated, heated conversation. I don't know for sure what

they were discussing. I didn't overhear their conversation, but it was energetic, and it delayed and delayed and delayed, and then it Durbin ended up decided not to vote on the subpoenas. And I'll tell you all the Republican senators we were like, what's going on? Yeah, and a number of us thought it was a number of Republican senators suggested the problem was Ossoff told Durbin he was not willing to vote on the Epstein subpoena. Now, I don't know if that's because he didn't want it voted on

or he didn't want to vote. No, I don't know why, and I don't know if it's true. I mean, we were Durbin never explained any of it to us. He just canceled it.

Speaker 3

Fast forward then.

Speaker 2

To when they did vote vote out the subpoenas. The way he did so, he allowed no amendments. He just rammed it through and blocked all amendments. And so the logical inference is the only way Durbin could get his votes for the Harlan Crow and Leonard Leo subpoenas is to stop a vote on the Jeffrey Epstein subpoena and somebody, and I think the most likely candidate is John Ossoff really really really doesn't want to vote on that. I think that's all the more reason to vote on it.

And by the way, if ASO is listening to this and he says, hey, that's not true, I'm happy.

Speaker 3

To vote on it. Great, let's vote on it.

Speaker 2

Let's vote on it. There's an easy way to resolve it. But it's interesting. So Fox News asked Durbin that question in the hallway. You saw at the end He's like, thanks Fox, Yeah, this like nastiness. Well, what happened next was interesting. So Durbin went into the hearing room and he tried to try to rehabilitate himself.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I cover your ass politics.

Speaker 2

So watch what he said as soon as he came into the hearing room.

Speaker 11

Senator Blackburn, before you leave, I want to make a point for the record, since I understand you made some statements about the Jeffrey Epstein flight logs. There's a Fox reporter in the hallway who asked me about this, and I said I had not spoken to you one time about this issue. I think you'll back me up on that. I'm not mistaken. I didn't know that this was even a subject of your amendments, which, if you recall, you were the first on the list until the two hour

rules invoked. I don't know anything about this request on your part. I'll be happy to discuss it with you, but I haven't done any discussion with you to this point.

Speaker 7

Mister Chairman, I know, and I think you're fully aware that I had two amendments, one dealing with Epstein and so to me or I brought it up previously.

Speaker 11

I have to confess I didn't know that you'd offer that amendment. Happy to discuss it with you, but I want to point on the record, you and I have never personally discussed this, have we.

Speaker 7

We talked briefly on the floor as to what.

Speaker 6

The subject matter your amendment was. You said you wanted offer committee.

Speaker 7

I brought up the subject matter of my amendments, not.

Speaker 2

My presence, do you believe in Well, the nice thing is, as they say, we can roll the tape. What he said, there is a flat out lie. It is objective false, and we're going to show that to you, and in just a moment, it is unequivocally false. It is possible, giving him enormous benefit of the doubt he forgot. Yeah, it is possible. It was not a knowing lie, but it is unequivocally one, one hundred percent demonstrably false that the words he said are wrong. And I'll show you why.

We're going to right now play the tape of that first hearing. Now, I was there, Marsha Blackburn was there, and Dick Durbin was there, and you're gonna hear Marcia bring up her amendment about Jeffrey Epstein. He just said, you've never mentioned Jeffrey Epstein in my presence. I was not physically present where you're going to see Dick Durbin recognize her and then cut her off while she's bringing up Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 3

Roll the tape.

Speaker 7

I seek recognition. Since we're in the business of issuing subpoenas, now here are a few more that filed a subpoena to Jeffrey Epstein's estate to provide the flight logs for his private plane.

Speaker 11

Thanks, Senator. When I recognize you. I didn't know what subject you wish to speak to. As I announced at the beginning, the first thing will consider the two judicial nominations. Then we will move to the subpoena.

Speaker 1

So she's speaking. He's in the middle of the room. He's right there in the middle. It's direct eye contact. He's looking directly at her. He's at the hearing room. He's in the center center. I'm in between Durbin and Marsha Blackburn. We're all sitting there. She flat out says, I want a subpoena Jeffrey Epstein's flight records.

Speaker 2

And he's and he hears it. He recognizes her. Then he interrupts and says, no, no, I want to do some other stuff first. This is easy to resolve. We should subpoena Epstein's flight records. If there are politicians, Democrat or Republican, or anybody else who was on that plane, who was going to that island, who was molesting and sexually assaulting children, we should know who they are. We shouldn't have Jeffrey Epstein's client list. And the fact that the Democrats are

apparently in a full on panic. I don't know if Durbin knows somebody on that list, or multiple people, or I don't know if they're just afraid. I don't know what their fear is, but they're plainly terrified of voting on it. And if I'm wrong, Durbin can solve it very easily by bringing it up for a vote and issuing the subpoena. And to be clear, when we subpoena

those flight logs, we should make them public. I will tell you this, one of my favorite moments in all of Senate Judiciary was when John Kennedy leaned forward at a hearing and he said, Christmas tree ornaments and Jeffrey Epstein, two things you know, didn't hang themselves.

Speaker 3

And this is why he is a legend of the Senate.

Speaker 2

I almost laughed at a lung and I'm sitting there John sits a couple of seats to my right. I almost fell over. I was like, I cannot believe he just said that in a live and open hearing of Senate Judiciary. He did, but it seems to me, I don't know if Jeffrey Epstein had a visit for Hillary Clinton late at night. I don't know what happened, but it seems to me Dick Durbin really really really doesn't want you to know what happened.

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Speaker 2

In your in your opinion, Look, there are a lot of times where I have strong, strong senses of probabilities. I have to say I really don't know. I put it at about fifty to fifty. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he did show up, but it would not surprise me if he didn't. If he doesn't show up, the House will hold him in contempt. But if the House holds him in contempt the Biden Justice Department, he's

not going to prosecute the contempt finding. And so, just like Eric Holder was held in contempt of Congress, if the households Hunter Biden in contempt and then Biden DOJ refuses to do anything about it, Hunter gets off scott free. So actually, as I'm talking about it, I'm talking myself into.

Speaker 3

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Speaker 2

I'm talking myself into sixty forty he doesn't show.

Speaker 3

Up, all right, I say one hundred percent doesn't show up.

Speaker 2

All right.

Speaker 1

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