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point four percent. So as we sit here right now, Donald Trump has an eleven and a half point lead in New Hampshire. The race has been called for Trump. He's gonna win New Hampshire. And so where do we stand? Where we stand is Trump won Iowa by thirty points, and Trump has one New Hampshire, and it's very likely he will live one New Hampshire by double digits. The exact margin won't be known until late in the night,

but it is very likely to be double digits. Right now, it's eleven and a half points if any candidate wins Iowa and New Hampshire. The fat Lady singing Katie bar the door, it is over. The big question right now is what is Nicki Haley doing. I don't know. I think it is seventy thirty that Nicky Haley stays in now. Frankly, the rational thing for Nicki Haley to do is drop out now. And the reason is simple. She's headed to South Carolina. That is her home state. She was the

governor there. She is going to get clobbered in South Carolina. It's going to be double digits. It could be as big as iwa it could be thirty points. And I will say, when you lose your home state by that kind of crushing double digit margin, it leaves a mark. Now, I mentioned I think the odds are seventy thirty that Nikki Haley does not drop out. She said that tonight. Her speech tonight was defiant. I'm staying in, I'm going

the distance. I get that. And the reason I think the odds are seventy thirty she stays in is because she has a crap ton of money. The billionaire donor class is all behind her. Now, I got to say the billionaire donor class. Look, I know a lot of the Republican billionaires. They are astonishingly consistently wrong when it comes to politics. They keep supporting candidates who lose. And what's weird. Look, these billionaires have been incredibly successful business leaders.

They know how to run companies, they know how to sell goods to customers, they know how to respond to data, and yet when it comes to politics, they are myopic. Their worldview is essentially, well, all the people in the country club agree with me, so that's what I'm going to do, And they don't notice that they keep losing and losing and losing and losing, and they don't have the rational response when your approach to politics is this isn't working, is to say, what am I doing wrong?

Like apparently I'm misunderstanding. Oddly enough, the entire country is not like the country club in the Hamptons, like there are people in Flyover country who have a different view. The simple reality Nikki Haley has run as an unapologetic establishment moderate.

percent does not beat seventy percent. And I don't know how these gazillionaires twist themselves into pretzels thinking my thirty percent is going to beat seventy percent because something's going to change. The rational thing, as I said, would be for her to drop out. I don't think she will because she's got so much money. As we talked about

in yesterday's podcast, and this was an unusual week. I want to encourage you guys, if you are interested in the presidential primary process, this is going to be a week that we're going to put out five podcasts we put out one Monday. I gotta say, Ben, you really liked the Monday podcast? Is that fair to say? I did?

happy that other people got to hear it because I've gotten to get some of those stories from you, and I even got some news stories from you on Monday as well. But we got done with it and I was like, this might be one of my favorite shows that we've ever done. Because it just showed a sight of you that I get to see that I want everybody else to see.

he was. And some of the early and best advice I got is they said, Look of the best podcast is like you and I are sitting down at a dinner table. We have a couple of glasses of wine, and we're feeling good and we're talking, and we try to do that. We try to have a real conversation and because we're friends, because we've got sometimes we agree a lot, but sometimes we disagree, we've got different takes, and the back and forth is what makes it interesting.

And all right, I'm gonna give all the podcast listeners an interesting insight. You may be wondering, Hey, wait, why do we have a podcast on Monday and then a bonus podcast on Tuesday, and then a podcast on Wednesday, and then a podcast we're going to have on Friday and then one on Saturday. Like that's where do you normally do Monday, Wednesday and Friday and than the Saturday recap? All right, so I'm gonna let you all in on the insight. Why So Sunday afternoon we recorded the Monday

podcast and we did it, and it's funny. Ben had a bunch of topics he wanted. He wanted to get into China, he wanted to get into the border. He wanted to get into all this stuff, like all these ideas, and I was like, you know, I just think, like Iowen, New Hampshire will consume it all. And he's like, I don't know, that's ten fifteen minutes. I'm like, yeah, No, I kind of feel like I have more to say.

forth and follow where the music goes. Anyway, Sunday we're sitting there, we're doing YouTube, and we recorded what ended up being an hour and ten minute podcast, and we started with I'm Talking with I when I did sort of a deep dive in the history of eye with the history of New Hampshire, the history of South Carolina, and I thought it was interesting. I like, like, look, this is what has determined the leader of the free world for the last fifty years. That's interesting stuff to me.

But then after like thirty forty minutes we started getting into you asked, well, what does it mean to drop out?

Ron Dessatus just dropped out? What's that like? And listen, there are not many people on planet Earth that have gone through like a winning presidential campaign that you almost win and then you don't and then you drop out and sort of the trauma and the personal relationships and the grassroots and all of the dynamics, and so I tried to talk about all of that, and that was sort of the second half of the pod we recorded. And then afterwards Ben said to me, Hey, I love

this pod, but we get a problem. The second half is like a thousand times than the first half. Like the first half is kind of interesting in academic and theoretical, but the second half is And Ben, what you said is what you just said a minute ago, like, is why I listened to the podcast because it's stuff you can't hear anywhere other than Verdict. It's like insight from someone who's run for president come in second and almost one,

and so you and I made a weird decision. We said, Okay, we have an hour and ten minute podcast we recorded, let's take the second half, cut it off and make it Monday's podcast because you said, and I didn't disagree, that's the most interesting and stimulating part. So let's give people what they'll like the best. But then I said, look, I thought the stuff about the history of Iowa and

New Hampshire, South Carolina for me was interesting. Maybe I'm enough of a political geek that I'm interested in stuff that is not as sort of scintillating, but I thought it was really good stuff. And so we came up with Initially, I said, well, what if we put it out on Wednesday? And Ben said, all right, you moron, you can't put it on a Wednesday because Tuesday night

the New Hampshire Wesday. Yeah, so if we put out an academic discussion of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina on Wednesday, right after what happened in New Hampshire, people will be like, what the hell's wrong with you idiots? Yeah, so we came up with, all right, screw it, let's chop it up, make it a second pod. We'll just put it out on Tuesday Bonus pod see if you like it, and now we're here Wednesday. But the point of all of this is that it's meant to be

real time, not different from right now. You're in Texas, I'm in DC. But if we were sitting at a dinner table, this is what I'd be saying to you, and you'd be saying the same.

weeks on end. States keep coming and going and coming and going. And there's people that have said to me in the last eight or nine hours, hey, is Nicki Haley basically running for vice president? If she can extend it long enough, she's the last one standing that it may be in a position where Donald Trump's is fine, I got to pick you to unite the party because we're so divided because of this drag out, knockdown primary that we have your reaction about those questions.

And so I think she will stay in this race because, as we talked about on Monday and Tuesday, the reason virtually every single presidential candidate in history drops out is the same reason they run out of money. Nikki Haley hasn't run out of money. She's got people who will keep writing checks as they hate Trump, so I think she'll stick around. Now here's why I think it's dumb. I think every day and every week she sticks around will hurt her. And getting crushed in her home state

I think will do real damage. And in my view, where we are right now, this is entirely about twenty twenty eight. I think if Nicki were rational, and I doubt she is. I like Nikki, and look, Nicky's a friend of mine, She's she's a nice person. But almost every presidential candidate is surrounded by sycophans. They're surrounded by sycophants who tell you what you want to hear. But even more importantly, their paycheck depends on you staying in

the race. And so if everyone around you keeps getting paid, if you stay in the race, you know what's amazing. Their advice is stay in the race. Yeah, because they want those paychecks. And so at this point, I think they're looking forward to twenty twenty eight. I think any one of them that has an IQ in the double digit, forget triple digits, let's just get to double in the double digits. Recognizes Trump's won, He's going to be the nominee.

But they're thinking, now, okay, let's stick around a long time, let's unify all the establishment moderate vote, and will be the great establishment hope in twenty twenty eight. Well, look, good luck to that again. Thirty percent doesn't beat seventy percent and getting your ass kicked in South Carolina and then in Super Tuesday and state after state after state. That's fine. The donors may not think that. They may think, gosh, if you lose every state, that's a great path to

being elected president. I guess they can think that. I don't understand the reason behind it. So if I were on Nicky's team, I'd be saying, hang it up, it's time now. I'm not calling on her to do that, because, as we've talked about in this podcast, it's not my role to drop out. She's got to decide. But I think the path to victory for her is zero. Trump is the Republican nominee. He may win in November, he may not. I hope he wins. I'm supporting him. I don't know. I think he can win, but I think

he also can lose. So I'm very worried about November, but I think the path for Nicki Haley to win the primary is zero point zero zero one percent.

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verdict as well. Join me and make the switch today. You'll love the service. Nine to seven two Patriot or Patriotmobile dot com slash verdict. Senator, I want to also ask you about one of the things that Nicki Haley said in her speech tonight, and she said it several times over the last couple of days, and that is that America doesn't need to eighty year olds trying to run this country, really turning this into an age issue.

I think that can work with Joe Biden, but it's not so much as age as it's a clear cognitive decline. You don't see that from Donald Trump. You certainly didn't see it on stage tonight. And this campaign schedule and the way that he's out there campaigning is pretty intense. When you look at her saying basically, vote for me because I'm younger and he's too old. We've seen that and it backfired and Ronald Reagan it worked his advantage.

They were worried that Reagan was too old, and Reagan basically told him I got this, and he did it crushed the issue. Now, listen, both Joe Biden and Donald Trump were older than Reagan was in eighty four. With Biden, the mental deterioration is massive, It is obvious. It is a real problem. I fully expect the Democrats to lean in and make the point that Trump has mental deterioration, not because it's true, but because they're trying to protect Biden.

And so I get why Nicky's doing it. Look, NICKI is thirty years younger than Trump, so so fine making that argument, and people are all excited. So I'm in DC on Capitol Hill, the reporters were all parapatetic about Oh Trump confused Nicky Haley and Nancy Pelosi. Let me tell you some reality. If you give a ton of speeches with TV cameras on you all the time, you will misspeak, you will say some dumb stuff. And I'm going to tell a story, one of the most embarrassing

stories from the twenty sixteen presidential campaign. So the last state that I competed in was Indiana, and as we talked about on Monday, I dropped out after we lost Indiana. One of the very last campaign events we did was in the gym where they filmed the movie Hoosiers.

They're guys that are big, they're tall, they're like slam dunking like they're a hardcore inner city team and these like little country hicks are like, okay, how do we compete against these guys? And there's a great scene where Gene Hackman, they're in the gym in Indianapolis, the big city, and he goes and sends someone on the team. He says, go, go run a tape measure from the hoop down to the floor, and he said, measure the height of it.

And he measures it and it's ten feet and Gene Hackman, the coach, goes ten feet exact same distance as our gym back home. And it's a way of making the point that like, look, we're playing the same game. It may feel scary in the big city, but this is the same game now. I was making the point because we just had the New York primary where Trump had won, and I was making the point, look, this is the same but we can win here. So I had my body guy, Bruce, whom I love. He he was the

field goal kicker for Oklahoma State. We traveled all over the country together. I had him, I said in the middle of the speech in the Hoosiers gym, I said, Bruce measure a tape measure from the rim to the floor, and I said ten feet ten feet, the same as it is in Indianapolis. And I was quoting the movie. And I left the speech and I felt pretty good. I'm like, hey, I give a pretty good humdinger of a speech. And I walked off the stage and my team was ashen. They were like, oh my god, oh

my god, like they were horrified. I'm like, what, what, Like, what did I do wrong? And apparently instead of saying measure to the rim, I said measure to the ring. And I didn't hear it. Like if you talk a million words, Look, you're a talk radio host, how many things have you said in the microphone? And if you talk a million words, I didn't hear it. I said ring, and I just my brain like it was a brain fart.

actually watch them and laughs. I'm like, yeah, that really sounds funny, like that what an idiot? And the thing, as you noted, that was like so painful. Listen. They are a crap ton of things in which I'm really ignorant. But I love hoops. So today I played two and a half hours of hoops. I play twice a week. I typically play Tuesday afternoons and Sunday night. I play probably five to six hours of hoops a week. I in high school, I was a mediocre to poor high

school basketball player. I'd say I'm still a kind of mediocre to poor high school basketball player. I've about maintained my skill thirty five years later. But the crushing I love hoops. I DVR every single Rockets game and I watch most of them like it's basketball. If there's a sport I know and care about and love, it's basketball. And everyone mocked the hell out of me for calling the rim the ring, and I know what the hell the ring is. Look, I just did that there. I

know what the hell the rim is. That's a good illustration. So all of the media is in a tizzy that Trump had a comment where he confused Nicky Haley and Nancy Pelosi. And I get it. It's easy, and it's frankly valuable if you have a political agenda, re elect Joe Biden, and the American voters are really concerned about the intellectual diminution of Joe Biden one of the best strategies to counter and say, yeah, but Trump is totally old and feeble too. Now, I think it's crap. And

I'll tell you what. I'm gonna make a challenge to the press and the Biden White House. Let's have the November election decided right now. Give us Donald Trump and give us Joe Biden for an hour on a cognitive test, and the winner is the president. I'll take that because Trump will kick Biden's ass on that. And by the way, no one will take us up on that now, of course, not because there is a media and pr mandate. I think Nicky is leaning into a narrative the press wants

to run with. And I get why. Look, if you're running against someone, if the press likes a narrative, you want to use it against your opponent. But I think it just doesn't fly the distance between. Is Trump older than he was eight years ago? Yeah, like the rest of us are. You're older. I am like, that's part of life. But there is no universe in which Trump's mental condition is remotely comparable to where Joe Biden's massive deterioration is.

him up in court. Now they can tie him up in a primary that can be extended. At what point does it become a real problem for Donald Trump to unify the country There is specifically conservatives the Republican Party, and it becomes such a big advantage for Joe Biden.

to suspend her campaign. I don't think she will because I think she's got money in the bank and she wants to go. And you know, look, as they say in dumb or Dumber, you know, you know, do you have a one million chance? Yes, so you're saying I've got a chance.

the primary base. Okay, we'll see, there'll be someone. There's always someone. That's the way our primaries work, but I think the more she gets beat, the weaker she is.

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saying what about states' rights here? And how could these two concerted justices side with the Biden administration.

They are facilitating it, they are accelerating it that they are actively wanting more and more and more of it. So Texas, understand annibly is responding to defend ourselves. I commend our governor. I commend our state legislature for acting to protect the sovereignty of Texas and for investing billions of dollars in border security and law enforcement and putting personnel in putting up barriers to try to stop this invasion of our state. Now, what happened on this case?

It arose to the Supreme Court on an emergency appeal on an injunction. There was an injunction against the federal government to stop the federal government from cutting down the razor wire, the Constantina wire that Texas had erected, and the Fifth Circuit, the Federal Court of Appeals, had upheld the injunction. What happened today Tuesday is the Supreme Court, by a vote of five to four, vacated that injunction.

What that means is, right now, the federal government has the legal ability to cut down that raz to allow illegal immigrants to continue invading the state. Now, the good news, the merits of the appeal is still pending, and so the Fifth Circuit can still rule on the merits of the appeal as to whether Texas has the authority. And by the way, the Supreme Court could still rule on

the appeal. So it is possible that Texas prevails. That the results of an emergency appeal on an injunction are not always the same as the merits results on the substantive issue. So that's true. But at the end of the day, you had the three Liberals plus John Roberts plus Amy Cony, Burt Barrett ruling for the Biden administration

saying you can cut down this razor wire. Now, on one level, I understand it that there is a heavy presumption in Washington in federal courts, which is that the federal government gets to trump the states, and that that is part of the Constitution. Is a supremacy clause that says the constance the federal law is the supreme law of the land. I think it is a real problem that John Roberts is a creature of Washington. I don't think he understands what is happening at the southern border.

I think Amy Cony Barrett is a law professor from Indiana. I don't think she has any understanding of what's happening at the southern border in ordinary times. If this were just a regular time and a state we're trying to block what the federal government was doing, the Supreme Court would fairly routinely rule with feeds. What I don't think these justices have a real appreciation for is how horrifically bad it is, how lawless it is what the Biden

administration is doing. There's never been a president who refuses to follow the law like Joe Biden did. So here's the statement that the Border Patrol Union put out today quote the Supreme Court's decision today is going to undoubtedly encourage more illegal immigration. Unfortunately, this means border patrol agents are going to be tied up dealing with give ups rather than going after the criminal elements that constantly cross

our border illegally. The administration, no doubt will say this is a win for border security, but if they sought rank and file input, they would be told this will do the exact opposite. Agents support what Texas was trying to accomplish in the absence of true border security policies from this administration. I agree with the Border Patrol Union, and so I am angry. I'm frustrated. I think the

Court is out of touch. I think they're just reflexively agreeing with the federal government against the States, and I think it is a profound mistake that continues the invasion that's happening in our southern border.

He wants this crisis. He wants more illegal immigrants. And I said, for Pete's sakes, Biden is actively litigating against the state of Texas to stop Texas from securing the border. That's what they want. They want this invasion. And that's exactly what the Biden administration is doing with the emphatics part of essentially every Democrat member of the Senate and every Democrat member of the House.

being litigated. I think that's something else we need to be clear about. It's still being litigated and that will play out. How long will take for this to get a final ruling through this litigation potentially years.