Into the Lion's Den-Debating School Choice, Abortion, Second Amendment & Border Crisis with Austin Liberals - podcast episode cover

Into the Lion's Den-Debating School Choice, Abortion, Second Amendment & Border Crisis with Austin Liberals

Sep 25, 202346 minEp. 285
--:--
--:--
Listen in podcast apps:
Metacast
Spotify
Youtube
RSS

Episode description

Transcript

Speaker 1

Center.

Speaker 2

Nice to be with you in person. I love it when we get to do this once a week. You had a very interesting weekend, and I think this conversation what people are about to see is very foreshadowing of the presidential election and the conversation that many Americans are going to be having. There's this thing called Tripfest down in Austin. It's a bunch of lefties in a room, a bunch of young people.

Speaker 1

I love what I.

Speaker 2

Get to watch you do these things because I know how much you enjoy it. But there was real dialogue and a real conversation that's important for the country. And one of the things about this was you got to talk about issues like school choice, which was incredible.

Speaker 3

Well that's right.

Speaker 4

So on Saturday, I was up in Austin and the event Tripfest they do every year. It's hosted by the Texas Tribune, which is a Texas political and news organization, and they have lots of different elected officials. They have predominantly Democrats. They get media, they get reporters from all over the country.

Speaker 3

National media comes down.

Speaker 4

They've had Hillary Clinton down there, they had they had Joe Manchin this year.

Speaker 3

They bring in it's sort of a nickname.

Speaker 4

The Weekend has his Libfest instead of trip Fest because it's accurate. It skews heavily left, and most of the attendees are either left wing reporters or their UT students who lean heavily left. And so this event was an hour long where I'm up on stage being interviewed by a reporter, Patrick Fetech, who's their political reporter, very smart, capable guy. I know Patrick well, and so he interviewed me for forty five minutes and then the audience said

fifteen minutes of questions. And as I said, I've done it year after year after year, and the crowd are always these like woke lefties.

Speaker 1

From UT know everything who.

Speaker 4

Are are frankly horrified to see someone right a center.

Speaker 3

But it gives you a chance.

Speaker 4

And actually, while I was there, I took the point of thanking them, the folks who were booing me, to say.

Speaker 3

Hey, listen, thank you for coming. Yeah. You know, I talked about.

Speaker 4

At the outset how we don't talk to each other enough, how we do too much screaming and yelling, and the right talks to the right and the left talks to the left. And in fact I told them I said, all right, it'll kill you to do this, but subscribe to the podcast. You ought to actually listen to a view that that that you don't ordinarily hear. But it was it was a good chance to talk about a lot of issues. And here's the first where I brought up school choice. And they all had their minds made

up to begin with. But here's the exchange. I think this year is the best opportunity of your in my lifetime for the state legislature to pass a real and serious school choice program to provide every child in Texas with with hope and access to an excellent education. Texas unfortunately lags behind on school choice. I'm a passionate defender of school choice. I've spent thirty years fighting for school choice. I think it is the civil rights issue of the

twenty first century. And you know, people who have gotten a good education can laugh at that. But you know, it's interesting if you go into the inner cities and you ask African American parents, you ask Hispanic parents, do.

Speaker 3

They support school choice?

Speaker 4

Sixty seventy eighty percent of them support it. So I get in Austin when folks have money and they feel quite comfortable that they can oppost choice.

Speaker 3

Well, my view is, don't trap kids.

Speaker 2

I gotta say, I really do believe school choice is an issue that is changing, and I think a lot of it is because of COVID, but especially among African American Hispanic Americans, single mothers.

Speaker 1

Yes, they want their kids out of these.

Speaker 2

Failing schools, and they see the damage that these teachers are doing their kids' future, and they saw it at home. During the time of COVID, the lid came off. I don't think you put this GUNI back in this bottle.

Speaker 4

Look, I agree. I think the momentum behind choice is mass. If you're seeing growing numbers, you're seeing state after state after state across the country passing school choice programs. For me, it's been an issue that it's been a thirty year passion. I think it is the single most important domestic issue in this country. Education is the gateway. It's antecedent to every other social problem. So you think about it, whether you're dealing with poverty or crime, or health.

Speaker 3

Care issues or substance abuse.

Speaker 4

If kids get an education, many of those problems largely take care of themselves. On the other hand, if kids don't get a good education, if they drop out, if they don't learn to read and write. We know that those problems crime and poverty, and healthcare issues and substance abuse issues, they follow like night follows day, and so allowing kids to be trapped in failing schools is consigning them to be shut out of the American dream.

Speaker 3

And it's There are a lot of issues in public life.

Speaker 4

You take an issue like affirmative action, you take an issue like abortion, where people of good faith can disagree. You and I have strong views on both of those topics, but I understand the people who disagree with us. I understand how someone can look at that same issue and come to a different conclusion. And there are real arguments on both sides of that issue. School choice is the only issue I know of in public policy on which there is literally not a good argument on the other side.

The only argument is one of venal self interests. The only argument is the teachers' unions bingo, who for whom Democrat politicians are bought and paid for, and they view it as maintaining power. Because look a point I make all the time, the rich and middle class.

Speaker 3

Have always had school choice.

Speaker 4

If you're at a wealthy jurisdiction. An example I use. Let's say you live in Bethesda, Maryland. All right, so Bethesda, Maryland is a very nice rink, which she shi neighborhood outside of Washington.

Speaker 3

If the Bethesda public.

Speaker 4

Schools had a fifty percent dropout rate, if among those kids who remained in school, only thirty percent graduated reading at grade level, if you had drug dealers roaming the hallways and you had little girls getting sexually assaulted in the bathrooms, the Bethesda public schools would be empty. Why because the parents there have money, and so they would do one of two things. They would either move, they'd move to another home in a different district that had

a better public school. Or because they have the resources, they would pay tuition to send their kid to a private school. But they would not send their child to a school that was failing. What happens is low income parents, often in the inner city, are trapped. They're facing schools exactly what I just described, but if they're not rich, they don't have the option to change it. And you

see democrats who are are blocking children. And it is predominantly African American and Hispanic children in inner cities who are trapped in these failing schools. And by the way, the Democrats like to like to consider themselves the champions for the minority community, and on the single most important civil rights issue in the country, which is giving those kids a chance at the American dream, the Democrats are

adamantly opposed. And you listen to all of those left wingers at ut laughing, Oh, how funny little children that can't get an education, ha ha. And there's an arrogance on the left that I think is really disturbing.

Speaker 1

What is your.

Speaker 2

Advice for those that are running in this presidential election on this issue, because when I when I worked in the Bush campaign of four, there was this was a third rail issue.

Speaker 1

It was a do not touch issue. It was leave it alone. It was that's fascinating it. It was a grand debate.

Speaker 2

It was two debates that we had on that campaign, so secure reform, don't talk about it till after we win. And then the second one was school choice in school vouchers. It was like, we don't go there, that's third rail. And I remember fighting, going, this is something we should take to the people because people that are stuck in failing schools. I was from Memphis, had a different perspective. Majority of schools there. Public schools are failing schools year

after year. They're failing schools like this. You guys don't understand. If you take this idea to the community that has it and needs it, they will side with you.

Speaker 1

You just have to explain it.

Speaker 2

Are we winning now where this is no longer that fear of that third rail. Don't touch it, don't mention it. Democrats will beat you over the head with it.

Speaker 4

So I got to say, I'm you and I have never talked about this topic before, so I didn't know that story. You were on the two thousand and four Bush Cheney reelect. I was on the two thousand campaign, the first Bush Cheney campaign, and my job was domestic policy advisor.

Speaker 3

I was twenty eight twenty nine years old. I was a young lawyer, and.

Speaker 4

I essentially covered any issue that touched on law, and so education and school choice was not in my portfolio, but I cared about it passionately, and so on the two thousand campaign, I actually wrote a memo. I wrote a memo to Karl Robe and Josh Bolden, all the senior people on the campaign, arguing and arguing that George W. Bush should have come out and promised scholarships for one million kids across the country to go to any school of their choice.

Speaker 3

Lean in and own school choice. And I put the polling data.

Speaker 4

I put the polling data that showed that African Americans and Hispanics, even back then, that was twenty three years ago, were consistently sixty seventy eighty percent in support a school choice. They also at the time ranked education is their number one issue, as did as did white parents, but Black parents and Hispanic parents, they all put education at their top issue in ninety nine and two thousand and I said, look, you've got the issue that is the top issue for

minority parents. They have an overwhelming view, and the Democrat Party has bought and paid for by the teachers union, so they are adamantly fighting them. And then I ran a series of electoral hypotheticals. Sadly, I knew I was not going to persuade the campaign on the merits we should have but but but I didn't even bother to make that argument. I just tried to make a simple political argument. I ran the numbers, looking at the last three presidential races, and I ran a couple of hypotheticals.

I said, what would have happened if the Republican nominee got five percent more, ten percent more, or fifteen percent more of the black and Hispanic vote. So I didn't assume suddenly you get fifty percent more. I ran three reasonable scenarios five percent more, ten and fifteen. The one that really stood out to my mind was nineteen ninety

six Bob Dole versus Bill Clinton. If Bob Dole had gotten fifteen percent more of the black and Hispanic vote, he would have won an additional ninety six electoral votes.

Speaker 3

Wow, it was stunning.

Speaker 4

And I still remember that debate when Bob Dole was asked at education and his answer he said the word school choice. But they were so painful. I remember screaming at the television. I was so mad at this old man who knew nothing about choice and didn't care about it, and was reading a talking point that he didn't give a flip about.

Speaker 3

And it was horrible.

Speaker 4

Well, this memo that I submitted, it got filed in the circular file because the education advisors on that campaign very much were sympathetic to the blob, to the teachers' unions and the education bureaucracy, and so I was never able to get them to embrace choice. And actually the memo I wrote was co signed. I wrote it, but I asked the chief Economic Advisor who was on the policy staff.

Speaker 3

He signed it. I asked the Chief Education Advisor, who was in the policy staff. She signed it. Wow.

Speaker 4

I asked the chief advisor on kind of urban and inner city issues.

Speaker 3

He signed it. And frankly, I could've gotten every.

Speaker 4

Single policy staffer they're about a dozen of us, to sign it if I had asked them, I think, but I didn't want. I thought that was sort of piling on and to get. But the difference was we were all twenty something or thirty something, and for the twenty somethings and thirty somethings, we saw it as massively important. The senior people on the campaign were forty somethings and fifty somethings, and they were not interested in taking it on there.

Speaker 3

And they didn't Yeah, the same thing, you know.

Speaker 2

Four It was don't go there, great idea, great idea, young guys, and we're not gonna do it.

Speaker 1

We don't touch it. And I think it's inching now in this in this cycle.

Speaker 2

How This could change Republican Party for the better for decades to come.

Speaker 4

So Ben, something I told Heidi before I first ran for Senate in twenty twelve, I said, if when I am dead and buried, my tombstone says Ted played a meaningful part in bringing about school choice to every child in Texas and every child to America, I said, I will die a happy man. I mean, I mean that it is difficult to think of a more meaningful and powerful legacy than giving kids hope and opportunity and a real chance to achieve a better life for themselves and their kids in the future.

Speaker 2

I want to tell you about our friends at Patriot Mobile. If you are sick and tired of giving your money to woke companies that are fighting against your values. There is only one Christian conservative cell phone provider, Patriot Mobile, and they are celebrating a big anniversary a decade in business. Now here's the cool part about being with Patriot Mobile. Every time you pay your bill, you're actually fighting for causes that you believe in, and many times they can

save you money over what you're paying. Right now, you may not realize that Big Mobile they give big donations to liberal causes, including planned parenthood. That's why I want you to check out Patriot Mobile. They have a one hundred percent call center that's based in the US. You're talking with someone right here. They can help you switch and make it easy, whether it's for you, your fam, a small business or a big business. All you gotta do

is call Patriot Mobile. Their number is eight seven eight Patriot. That's eight seven eight Patriot. Use the promo code Verdict when you call, and you will get free activation plus the best deals of a year. You can keep your same cell phone number if you want to. You can get a new cell phone or keep the same one you have now and you'll get the best service you can get, no matter where you live. Eight seven eight

Patriot or Patriot Mobile dot com slash Verdict. You also talked about something else that is really important at this event, and that was the Second Amendment. The Second Amendment is an issue that some don't like to touch. I love that you love to talk about it because it's something you care about and you're willing to have a grand debate. And it got a little feisty, especially with the audience. I want people to see what you had to.

Speaker 4

Say this is the basic divide. Every time there's a mass shooting, you see elected Democrats. Their approach is they want to take away the Second Amendment rights of law abiding citizens. Here's the pronounce See this is what I mean. We just yell at each other. This is not that there is zero evidence that doing so, There is zero

evidence that doing so protects any lives. And in fact, if you look nationally, if you look at the jurisdictions with the strictest gun control laws, almost without exception, they have among the highest murder rates and among the highest crime rates. The city of Chicago has some of the toughest gun control laws in the country, and it consistently has horrible murder rates. Because what happens if you pass a law that disarms law abiding citizens. Law abiding citizens,

by definition, they follow the law. The criminals don't, and so what ends up happening is the criminals target the law abiding citizens. So your question, there are proposals that say, listen, we want to raise the age to buy a firearm

to age twenty one. Well, you know what, I think that a nineteen or twenty year old single mom living in the inner city and huge Dallas, going to work in a dangerous neighborhood has a right to protect yourself as a right under the Second Amendment, to protect yourself from someone who would commit violence against her.

Speaker 3

And I'll give a stat again.

Speaker 4

Look, this is an audience who I think has their mind made up and doesn't want to hear actual data.

Speaker 3

But let me give you. Let me give you data.

Speaker 4

From a source that I suspect you would agree with the Obama White House. You're gonna agree that's not a right wing source. Here's what the Obama White House put out. They said, every year, firearms are used defensively to stop a crime, to stop a murder, to stop a rape, between five hundred thousand and a million times a year every year in the United States of America. That is

a very simple reality. And so when you disarm people, when you take that nineteen year old single mom and you say you can no longer defend yourself, the data show you see crime rates go up, you see murder rates go up, you see sexual assault rates go up. And if you want to stop those crimes, and listen, I believe the people here want to stop those crimes. But if you want to stop them, you should look to the data of what actually works, and what works is putting the criminals in jail.

Speaker 3

And I'll point out and.

Speaker 4

We got to move on to the next question, but hold on a second. This is deeply connected. This is deeply connected with the policies Democrats have championed defunding the police and also George Soros prosecutors who release violent criminals. Because the same people who are all worked up about gun control are also by and large supporting releasing criminals from jail. And we see that pattern over and over and over again and.

Speaker 3

When it happens. So I've sat down with.

Speaker 4

Texas police chiefs who said to me, we know who the trigger pullers are, we know who the criminals are. We want to arrest them, and we can't because they keep getting let go and they keep committee more murders. If you want to stop crime, go after the criminals, not law abiding citizens.

Speaker 1

Let's talk about it. Another big issue. We got to move on. You're making too much sense over your sinner. We gotta with some mis move But we heard your answer.

Speaker 2

I can't believe that the audience couldn't even clap in a basic idea that a single mother who's nineteen the inner city should be able to defend yourself against someone bring in your home, trying to kill a raper, whatever it may be, not a clap in the room.

Speaker 3

That don't look Rich Liberals like school choice. If you're a rich liberal, you live in a neighborhood where they haven't.

Speaker 4

Abolished the police, You've got lots of police officers protecting your home. You know, Actually, if you're wealthy enough, the second Amendment is not necessarily life or death because you're able to outsource protection. You're able to live in an environment where you're not living next door to a crack

house at all likelihood. If you're low income, if you're in the inner city, if you're a single, you're facing the very real prospect of if you're taking the subway at home at night, or the bus at home at night, at being robbed at gunpoint, at being assaulted, and you often don't have a choice.

Speaker 3

You don't have another option.

Speaker 4

You can't move to a safer place where the criminals are not next to you. And liberals talk about compassion enormously, but when you actually point out that the people who are hurt by their policies are the most vulnerable, they

get very angry. They do not like you're not allowed to defend an African American single mom in the inner city because they're in charge of her, and damn it, if they disarmor and she gets killed, it was good for it made them feel good to disarm her, even though they also championed the policy that released the murderer who killed her. They take no responsibility. You heard the crowd howling when I brought up George Soros prosecutors. So they all support, but they all contribute.

Speaker 2

They laugh, they act like you're making it up. The data shows that you're not.

Speaker 4

The numbers are staggering. George Soros has spent literally millions of dollars electing DA's who let violent criminals out of jail over and over and over again. And they commit crimes over and over and over again. But you know what, they generally don't commit crimes against rich people living in rich, white liberal neighborhoods where they say, oh, I feel so good emptying the prisons. Isn't that nice? No, it's the inner cities. It's the people, and it's predominantly African Americans

and Hispanics whose lives are lost. All the people with the yard signs out front of their house that say black lives matter apparently don't really give a damn about black lives because when you point out that more African Americans are being murdered because of the left wing policies they support, undermining police officers and letting violent criminals go, they react like that crowd. They boo you just they don't want to hear it.

Speaker 2

Just two weeks ago, there's an African American young way there was a soros DA elected because SROs backed him and gave them the money, and she was shot. It was four or five times by her ex She was in surgery in critical condition, and the man who they caught who shut her, had already gotten out of jail because of an activist soros DA who said bail reform, Oh I can't keep you here, you don't have a

lot of money. He was out free in the city while that woman was still in surgery fighting for her life. And that's the source day and they laugh about that. Yeah, it's amazing. There's also another issue that it's interesting to see how abortion plays in election cycles. There seems to be a real taste for revenge right now from Democrats because of the overturning of Roe v. Wade and going back to the States. There seems to be this is

a presidential election year issue. They want it to be inspiring for women and feminists and angry people on the left to come out and get revenge because they say how their Republicans protect the life of the unborn. You talked about some of the ways are trying to get back Roe v. Wade and try to put back these laws into place, and that also had a very interesting reaction from the crowd.

Speaker 4

Take a look, so twice the Democrats have taken up a bill and it's a bill they said was to recodify ROW.

Speaker 1

I get it. It's you're saying it's not it's not plausible politically, right.

Speaker 3

Well, but let me go a little further.

Speaker 4

So the Democrats said the bill was was to codify Row. And what's interesting that actually is poll tested, that polls pretty well, but it is not in fact what the bill would do. The bill that was voted on in the Senate is a bill that would effectively strike down every single state restriction on abortion, so it would legalize abortion up until the moment of birth. It would legalize partial birth abortion.

Speaker 1

Democrats disputed.

Speaker 4

It would it would strike down parental notification and parental consent. You're saying, but I want to say something that's important to understand. If you look at national polling, that view is an extreme and radical view. Nine percent of Americans agree with that view, and every single Senate Democrat voted for that view. And so the position of Washington Democrats is wildly out of step with where the American people are.

Speaker 2

I mean, Sier, you listen to the status, You listen to what you said.

Speaker 1

He didn't want to hear it.

Speaker 2

The audience doesn't want to hear it, and they don't want to hear what's actually in the bill that you just describe because it doesn't fit their narrative, even though it's not the truth.

Speaker 4

They just yell it's not true. No, no, no, it's not true. And yet it is the view over and over again of elected Democrats. And the hate when you pointed out. Reporters hate when you pointed out. Activists hate when you pointed out because Republicans are supposed to be on the defensive. They're supposed to run away and not be willing to discuss the issue.

Speaker 3

And what I said earlier at Tripfest I said.

Speaker 4

Listen, abortion, people disagree, people disagree strongly, and the Supreme Court was right in overturning Row and leaving the issue to the democratically elected legislature so that we can have the answer to that question about what the rules should be decided by the democrat process, not by nine unelected lawyers in black robes. And again, left wing activists don't

like to hear it. They wanted to create their view and force it on people whether they like it or not, because they've got a real problem with democracy.

Speaker 2

We've seen a lot happen with the economy, and we've seen a lot that's happened with interest rates. We've seen some bank failures, and we've seen inflation. And the question is if your close to retirement, are in retirement, this is an important one for you. How do I protect my hard earned dollars? Well, let me tell you about Augusta Precious Medals. Augusta Precious Metals has one goal and that is to help you protect your retirement through a four to one k and ira that has gold in it.

Speaker 1

This is about protecting and not losing money.

Speaker 2

Now, if you're in retirement or close to retirement, you know you want to make sure you don't have big losses because there's no time to make up those losses. And that's where Augusta says, let us help you. Augusta Precious Medals does it differently. They do a one on one web conference with every person that wants to get information about how gold can be worked into your IRA or your four oh one K, how to.

Speaker 1

Protect your dollars.

Speaker 2

You get to ask as many questions as you want, because look, everybody's retirement is a little bit different.

Speaker 1

That's why I love Augusta Precious Medals.

Speaker 2

You can call them and get the free Investor's Guide on gold, but more importantly, for free, you can do the web conference and ask them all the questions that you may have about can you diversify and protect your dollars with gold. Check out Augusta Precious Medals eight seven seven the number.

Speaker 1

Four Gold IRA.

Speaker 2

Call them and get the free investor Guy in gold, find out if gold is right for you, and set up that web conference on one on one eight seven seven the number four Gold IRA or online at Augusta Precious Medals dot com. That's Augusta Precious Metals dot com. We've spoken at this event several years in a row. I wanted to get your take because I wanted to see what the audience is gonna do. I was really intrigued as I was watching this online as you were there.

It was the audience going to change on the issue of immigration reform in border security because the onslaught of illegal immigrants coming across the border into Texas and what it's happening around the country. Seeing this debate change very quickly with Democrats like Mayor Adams and the governor New York and others. Did the audience change in Austin though, because it's go outside, go anywhere in Texas. You can see the difference in how the state's changing because of

so many illegal immigrants come across the border. Were they willing to have a different dialogue this.

Speaker 3

Year, Not not remotely.

Speaker 4

Unfortunately, left wing college students live in an ivory tower. These are the same college students that think school choice there's no need for it, that think the Second Amendment is unnecessary and we should disarm people that want to see unlimited abortion on demand because they're being indoctrinated. Look, they're nineteen twenty year olds are being indoctrinated, So on immigration that their only view as open borders is mandated by justice, and so they.

Speaker 3

Don't want to hear the people who are hurt.

Speaker 4

They don't want to hear the suffering, they don't want to hear the death that comes from open borders because it's inconsistent with their political narrative.

Speaker 1

Take a look at this video. It's interesting and.

Speaker 4

It's a problem that is man made. This is one of the important things to say. So if you look at press talking points, one of the talking points that you see from the White House is well, the border is just not solvable. The problem with that is that is objectively false. When Joe Biden came into office, he inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. And this crisis was caused by three specific decisions. Number one,

it was caused the first week in office. Biden immediately halted construction of the border wall. Number two, he reinstated the failed policy of catch and release, so that when people are apprehended, they're given a court date sometime in the future, they're let go and the vast majority of them are never seen again. And number three, he pulled out of the incredibly successful remain in Mexico Agreement.

Speaker 3

Now, what was remain in Mexico.

Speaker 4

Remain in Mexico was an international agreement the United States negotiated with Mexico that said that when people cross illegally into Mexico, typically from Central or South America, that they would remain in Mexico while their US asylum case was preceding.

Speaker 1

And it worked.

Speaker 4

It worked incredibly well, so much so that we saw the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. Biden came in his first week in office, he ripped that agreement to shreds and we right now have the highest rate ever recorded. Seven point two million people have crossed illegally since Biden became president, and it is utterly indefensible.

Speaker 5

I want to move on to one, one or two topics before we go to audience questions.

Speaker 1

Here, Let's just think about how silent he was.

Speaker 2

It's like, let's move on again, right, don't want to talk about the facts. And if you look at the numbers since Joe Biden took office, you have seven point five million illegal immigrants that have crossed the border, including one point five million guidaways to escape border patrol and vanished into the country.

Speaker 1

In Friday, there was a dump of new data.

Speaker 2

The Biden administration announced two hundred and thirty two, nine hundred and seventy two illegal immigrants were encountered at the southern border in August. That's the thirtieth straight month center of the worst border crisis in history, and the highest total for that month in Department of Homeland Security history.

Speaker 1

That is how bad it is.

Speaker 2

And if you take a look at the graft that was released on Friday by the Border Patrol custom Border, this is what it looks like. And I I want to get your reaction to now, this is just the encounters, and you can explain the difference for people between encounters and godaways.

Speaker 4

So encounters are where border patrol agents actually encounter someone, they stop someone, they turn them in. A got away is they see someone and they take off, so they don't actually apprehend them. They but they know that they are there. They just got away. And let let's go back to this chart because I want to walk it through. So if you look at the August numbers, all right, August of twenty twenty, there were forty nine hundred and twenty nine encounters.

Speaker 1

That's a lot.

Speaker 4

Although it was the lowest in forty five years. One year later, August of twenty twenty one, it goes from forty thousand to two hundred and thirteen thousand, five hundred and ninety three. So August of twenty twenty there were fifty thousand and fourteen encounters. Now that's a lot, but twenty twenty was the lowest rate of illegal immigration in.

Speaker 3

Forty five years.

Speaker 1

So is the president then?

Speaker 3

That would be Donald.

Speaker 1

Trump, just making sure everybody knows that.

Speaker 4

So fifty and twenty twenty one year later, August of twenty twenty one, two hundred and nine thousand, eight hundred and forty so it's increased four hundred percent. First year Biden's in office August of twenty twenty two, two hundred and four thousand and eighty seven, So it stays up four x where it was under Trump. And how about August of twenty twenty three, they just released the numbers two hundred and thirty two thousand, nine hundred and seventy two.

It's nearly five hundred percent where it was in August of twenty twenty. And if you look at this chart, that same ratio is there every single month. October November December January Februy. All the way through you see numbers that are about a quarter of what they are now,

a four x increase. And that's what happens when you have open border democrats who empower the cartels and among other things, make billions of dollars for the cartels in human trafficking, in drug trafficking, not concerning themselves with the death and suffering and misery that results from.

Speaker 2

There's a civil war the Democratic Party right now over the immigration issue. We're seeing, you know, Mayor Adams come out, the Governor of New York come out, and it's hard to just overlook what's happening at the border. There was an interesting Fox report that I think put it in perspective for people, and I wanted to make sure we played it in the video pod. And many people are listening to this right now. They're listening on audio only.

You can go watch the video that we're about to do on YouTube, all right, because we're doing this one with video and audio. Go look at it, because this is something that should go viral and people should see.

Speaker 1

Yep, take a look at this.

Speaker 5

I can tell you that early this morning, an eagle pass we witnessed one of the largest mass illegal crossings we have ever seen in the last two and a half years of covering our southern border. We'll get right to this video. Take a look at this stunning footage. Border patrol sources telling us just after midnight about two thousand, five hundred migrants crossed illegally into Eagle So you can see this lengthy line of them stretching from shore to

shore in the river. This video perspective coming from the Mexican side of the river in Piedros Negros, one of our contacts over there shooting this video as they essentially bum rushed Eagle Pass.

Speaker 2

Last night, you saw that there was another video also in viral, and that was a train coming towards America filled with people. And it's like the cartails that figured out, Hey, they're not gonna stop us. In fact, the more that we send the more likely it is to be successful. We can just bum rush the border and this administration will not stop us.

Speaker 4

Yeah, let's put these these numbers in context. So, as we've discussed on the pod before, Mayor Adams in New York has said that New York is City isn't a crisis they've had one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants. He says that one hundred and ten thousand illegal immigrants is destroying New York City. I want to focus on Eagle Pass where where if you watch that video you just saw the people crossing. Eagle Pass is a small town on the southern border on the Rio Grande River.

It has a population of about twenty eight thousand people, so it's a little town. On one single day last week, more than four thousand illegal immigrants came into Eagle Pass on one day. Now four thousand people in town of twenty eight thousand people is about fourteen percent of the population. About fourteen percent of the population of the city came illegally into Eagle Pass on one day. What would that be in New York City? New York City has a

population of about nine million people. If fourteen percent of New York City came into New York on one day, that would be one million, two hundred and sixty thousand people invading New York on a single day. Mayor Adams says, one hundred and ten thousand people over two and a half years is a crisis destroying the city. Well, how would he feel about one million, two hundred and sixty thousand people entering the city on a single day. That's

what Eagle Pass saw on one day last week. And you know what they saw thousands more the next day and the next day and the next day and the next day. And these Democrats do not give a damn.

Speaker 2

Border Patrol Union put out a very interesting tweet and this is what they said as they put this out. It said, from September first through the twentieth, the Biden administration or the release of more than one hundred thousand. This to order the release of one hundred thousand legal border crashers, enough to double the population of sees like Uma, Arizona. Think about what Biden is doing to this country with his out of control border policies.

Speaker 1

How many millions more?

Speaker 2

That's not like exaggeration when they say Border Patrol Union saying how many millions more, that's a very accurate sit because there are millions.

Speaker 4

Look, they're at seven and a half million, and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer and Alejandro may orcus and every Senate Democrat and just about every congressional Democrat they want seven and a half million, to go to ten million, to go to two million, to go

to fifteen million. They want as many as possible. And by the way, if you don't believe me that they want as many as possible, take a look at the Governor of New York, Governor Hochel back in twenty twenty one, so just two years ago, where she is explicitly inviting as many as possible to come to New York.

Speaker 1

Take a look.

Speaker 6

So our message the world is, send us your people, send us those who need the cloak of comfort that we can demonstrate as New Yorkers.

Speaker 7

With big hearts and open arms, and we'll provide.

Speaker 6

A safe have and particularly for these Afghan refugees, we're so proud that are here. We have already seventy five hundred Afghans living here already, and we expect to have another eighteen hundred more. And we send a message from day one, we'll take as many as you want to have us have come to New York State because it's a huge point of pride for us, and we'll support them to build a whole new life.

Speaker 1

Open arms and big hearts. In twenty twenty one.

Speaker 4

And she also said will take as many as you want to have come to New York, please come. So that is the approved talking point of left wingers. Now fast forward to twenty twenty three, same governor.

Speaker 3

Here's what she says this year.

Speaker 7

It certainly will, because about forty one percent of the people in our shelters today are from Venezuela. They are lily from around the world, West Africa, South and Central America. They're coming from all over. But we have to let the word out that when you come to New York, we're not going to have more hotel rooms. We don't have capacities. So we have to also message properly that we're at our limit. If you're going to leave your country,

go somewhere else. But the smarter thing is to apply for asylum before you leave your country, and then you'll have a different experience when you arrive.

Speaker 2

If you're going to leave your country, center go somewhere else. Down that we're at our limit. We're at our limit.

Speaker 1

We have no more hotel rooms for you.

Speaker 3

And by the way, look at the numbers.

Speaker 4

So in twenty twenty one, she was saying, we have seventy five hundred afar and we expect another eighteen hundred more Okay, So if they're talking seven eight nine thousand, that we're good one hundred and ten thousand, Oh crap, we're at our limit. We said eighteen hundred, we didn't say one hundred and ten thousand. Well what do you think about seven and.

Speaker 3

A half million?

Speaker 4

The utter hypocrisy and mind you you know, you know what name she didn't say Joe Biden. Yeah, she didn't say Kamala Harris, she didn't say Chuck Schumer. If New York is at its limit, doesn't New York State have two US Senators?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Isn't one of them the Senate Majority Leader Charles Schumer.

Speaker 2

Who could do something on this, actually legislation or introduce legislation.

Speaker 4

And not only does he not introduce legislation, he votes against anything to secure the border. He demonizes any effort to secure the border. He embraces the open borders that are destroying New York City, and even the Democrats who are calling it out, they don't dare call out their fellow Democrats. Instead, they blame as I love, you know, Mayor Adams who said some madman in Texas, Greg Abbott. Yeah, I'm still I'm still offended that he wasn't talking about me.

But the hypocrisy is massive because New York's Democrat governor is not saying stop secure the border, stop the invasion. She's saying, please don't send them to New York, send them to Red States. Make other people deal with them so I can continue to virtue signal. By the way, did you notice also in that press interview it was a little Stepford wives that that that that that both she and the woman interviewing are wearing the exact same

white suit. Yeah, it was just kind of a little freaky look, and I'm not sure what was going on there.

Speaker 1

I love everybody asked me about it.

Speaker 2

You really believe there's bias in the media, And I'm like, yes, I really do.

Speaker 1

Like I love when I'm traveling, you get it to all the time.

Speaker 2

People come up and they kind of want to antagonize, like, there's not bias media. If you were a decent person in the media, when she said go somewhere else, any journalist, the initial response would been, will governor where else where? What is this somewhere where else? Is that another state? Are you telling me to go to another country? There was no follow up.

Speaker 4

There on at all, No no, no, because there's no response to that, go somewhere else what they mean. And actually the Biden White House said that go to Texas. Send them all to Texas because they hate Texas and they figure if they invade Texas with enough people, they'll flip it blue. And you know what, if the cities are bankrupted, and if people die, and if children are assaulted, and if they're drug overdoses, all of that is an acceptable price for their partisan political objective.

Speaker 2

If you're a guy and you feel like you've lost your edge, you feel like weakness and complacency are setting in, You're not alone to Stosterum levels have dropped off a cliff historically. And that's why I want to tell you about my friends at Chalk. Choq dot com is where you need to go because chalk can help you fight

back and get rid of that complacency. If you maybe want to work out, you just don't have energy, you're tired of sitting on the couch, you want to be active again, go check out and the mal Vitality Stack. Why because it can help you boost your tesostrum levels up to twenty percent over ninety days now, I've been taking chalk now for months. I can tell you it works. So natural herbal supplements made right here in the US of A. And it can help you boost your testostrum

and get back that strength and vitality that you're missing. Plus, use the promo code Ben You'll get thirty five percent off your order, So don't sit on the couch anymore. Get your testosterrum levels back up twenty percent boose and up to in just ninety days. Choq dot com, that's cchoq dot com. Use promo code Ben You'll get thirty five percent off your order.

Speaker 1

That's chalk choq dot com.

Speaker 2

You mentioned Eagle Pass, and you're starting to see some of these smaller mayors in these smaller towns. They're finally getting some airtime on places like CNN, and they're doing an amazing job telling their story now because they've been bombarded with illegal immig And again you compared it to New York City as you did a moment ago, and it should make you angry, But imagine being a mayor.

You're being invaded every twenty four hours with thirty forty fifty six percent of your entire population with illegal immigrants are come across and now they're draining on your economy. They're not helping your economy, they're draining your economy, and they're begging for help.

Speaker 1

And look at what he had to say on CNN.

Speaker 8

This is definitely a very serious situation for the city of Eagle Pass. We're a city of about twenty eight to thirty thousand people, and the last couple of days we've had in excess of five thousand people cross from Piadras Negadas, Mexico into Eagle Past, Texas. It's become a

big concern for the community. A lot of people are frustrated, a lot of these people are being loose in the community, walking around, and it's just a big concern for the City of Eagle Pass, not only safety wise, but also our local economy is taking a hit because because of this crisis, we've had to shut down bridge and a one our international bridge, which so many millions of dollars glow through this bridge. We depend on the tolls of the people that pay those bridge tolls, and it's just

an emergency situation. That is why as mayor for the City of Eagle Pass, I decided to declare a state of emergency for our city because We've never seen this before. This is not normal, and we shouldn't have to be going through a situation like this in the United States or here in Egle Pass, Texas.

Speaker 1

No, you shouldn't.

Speaker 2

No, you shouldn't. For by the way, that was on CNN. You just heard Aaron Burnett say no, you shouldn't.

Speaker 4

So I want to pull that screen up again. Don't play the video, but just pull the screen up again. I want to ask you what letter is missing from the screen.

Speaker 1

It's a trick question. I'm ready, go ahead.

Speaker 3

So it says at the bottom Mayor Rolando Salinas.

Speaker 1

Oh the D or the R?

Speaker 3

And what is he?

Speaker 4

He's a Democrat and they didn't put the democrats. CNN didn't want to tell you. This is a Democrat who's calling what's going on so miraculous. There's not a little D after his name, which they usually do. CNN knows how to do that. Yeah, it's always up there, It is always up there. Until they realize this is counter to the narrative. You've got an Hispanic Democrat, Holy crap in South Texas saying this is an emergency.

Speaker 3

This is not normal. No, no, no, no, we can't have that Let's have people assume he's a Republican.

Speaker 1

Yeah, let's make sure they don't think he's a Democrat.

Speaker 4

Okay, Look South Texas, most of the elected officials are Democrats, and I cannot tell you how many of them have said if my party nationally supports open borders, I can't be a part of that because you cannot see what is happening on the border and defend it. Nobody does. There is nobody who sees it day to day in reality and says this is a good outcome, this is a humane outcome.

Speaker 3

It is indefensible.

Speaker 4

It's an emergency, and it's a man made emergency that Joe Biden the Democrats want to have happen, and they want to make it worse to tomorrow. And you know they do because the policies they're following are designed to make it worse tomorrow.

Speaker 2

That's why I love doing this pod, especially with video once week, because we get to show you these videos. Don't forget to share this video. It's on YouTube, it's on Facebook. You can share some of the mini clips on Instagram and Twitter will be putting them out. Share them with your family and friends. Make sure you hit that follow or subscribe or auto download button wherever you're

listening to this podcast. We do it Monday, Wednesday, and Friday, and we have our new pod on Saturday, which is a weekend reviewer from the stories you may have missed. It's become very popular in the last couple of weeks, so make sure you grab that on the weekends as well, and on the end between days, I'll keep you update on my podcast, the Ben Ferguson Podcast, so make sure you download that, and I'll keep you update on the breaking as well, and we'll see you back here in a couple of days.

Transcript source: Provided by creator in RSS feed: download file
For the best experience, listen in Metacast app for iOS or Android
Open in Metacast