Welcome it as a verdict. With Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, We've got some victories to talk about that are big for this country coming up in just a moment. But before we get to that, an FBI special agent has come forward as a whistleblower, along with several other whistle blowers who have now gone before Congress on the House side Jim Jordan's committee, I want to get your just initial reaction to finally getting to see what these whistleblowers are saying.
Well, the evidence keeps coming out every day about just how politicized and how weaponized the FBI and the Department of Justice has become under Joe Biden. Yesterday in the House of Representatives and hearing chaired by Jim Jordan, there was testimony from multiple FBI whistleblowers who heroically came forward at enormous risk to themselves, at enormous risk to themselves, to their career, to their livelihoods, to the ability to
feed their families, and among other things. They testified that that risk was not theoretical, but it was it was very real, and yet they were so disturbed by the politicization by the corruption that they had witnessed at the FBI that they felt obliged to come forward, and it
really was striking. This is a continuation of the two podcasts we did last week, the special Interview with Jim Jordan, where Jim previewed this testimony with us on the two podcasts last week, and and if you didn't listen to them last week, you should go back and listen to Jim walking through the evidence of weaponization that has been developed by the House to date. But the hearing yesterday, well, it started with Jim Jordan giving a warning to the
FBI whistleblowers who could come forward. Listen to what Jim warned them as the hearing began. We've talked over two dozen workustle blowers. People have come to us.
We've interviewed several of those, and today three of them, three of those brave whistle blowers and the lawyer who represents them, will tell us their story. They will tell us what happened, what they saw, and then what happened to them because they were courageous enough to report it to Congress. And I just want to tell you, guys, get ready, get ready, because these guys are going to come after you.
You know they are last hearing we had.
Last hearing we had we had two journalists Democrats, two Democrat journalists set right where you guys did, and these guys tried to get them to divulge their sources. Someone needs to tell them how the First Amendment works. And while mister Tayabe, one of those award winning journalists setting right where you're setting, was testifying, guess what else was happening. The irs was knocking on his door. So get ready. But I know you're up to the task because you came forward in the first place.
Senator, you listened to Jim Jordan's warning, and it's clearly accurate based on what these whistleblowers have experienced, including the fact that this FBI whistleblower testified for the first time publicly that not only did he swear to defend this country from enemies both foreign and domestic, but he didn't realize that he was going to have to sacrifice his entire career after being a whistleblower when the FBI retaliated
against him. And that's not what the law says it's supposed to happen.
That's exactly right under federal law. If you come forward as a whistleblower, you're entitled to the protection of law, and it is illegal. It is a crime for your employer to retaliate against you for being a whistleblower for exposing corruption, especially when you're taking it to the United States Congress. The Congress has a responsibility under a constitution to engage in oversight. And yet the FBI sadly that they're so brazen in how politicized they are that they
didn't hesitate to go after these guys directly and immediately. Well, here, listen to the testimony from one of the witnesses about how they went after him very directly.
It's currently in place at the FBI are clearly inadequate and must be reworked to protect whistle blowers and others who are inappropriately targeted. The FBI can extract whatever they want from me. I'm willing to bear that burden. I've sworn to defend this country from enemies, both foreign and domestic,
even if that means sacrificing my life. I've lived that oath out since first enlisting in the army, consistently saying here, am I send me my oath, however, did not include sacrificing the hopes, dreams, and livelihood of my family, my strong, beautiful and courageous wife and our four sweet and beautiful daughters who have endured this process along with me. In weaponized fashion, the FBI allowed me to accept orders to a new position halfway across the country. They allowed us
to sell my family's home. They ordered me to report to the new unit when our youngest, a Or, was two weeks old. Then on my first day on the new assignment, they suspended me, rendering my family homeless. They refused to release our goods, including our clothes.
For weeks.
All I wanted to do was serve my country by stopping bad guys and protecting the innocent. To my chagrin, bad guys have begun running parts of the government, making it difficult to continue to serve this nation and protect the innocent. But I, for one, will never stop trying, and I'll never forget my oath.
Sater.
You hear him there, He gets choked up because it's obvious the FBI knew what they were doing. They decided, Okay, you're gonna whistle blow. You're not going to be one of us, you're going to tell the truth. Fine, we'll ship you off to a new job, and then when you get there on day one, we are going to suspend you, leave you home with and hold your goods hostage. Is that not the definition of retaliation?
Well, it's petty, it's vindictive, and understand the timeline. And he laid out that they did this after he had come forward as a whistleblower. So they transfer him, he sells his house, he moves his family, and then boom, when he gets there, the job that he was transferred to do, he's prevented from doing. And that, you know, it reveals a lot that his supervisors seemingly have no
fear of any consequences for this retaliation. They're in a culture. Look, this is the same culture that pervaded the FBI, that led the FBI to target Donald Trump when he was the Republican nominee for president and to feel like they needn't worry about whether there was any evidence of collusion
with Russia. They needn't worry about whether the thing they were investigating, the Steel Dossier, was a fraudulent piece of opposition research paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign, which it was and which they had every reason to know that it was, because, unfortunately, it appears that these corrupt partisans in senior positions at the FBI believe they are impervious to the strictures of law or to any accountability.
It's the same arrogance that pervaded the IRS, that led the IRS to come knocking on the door of journalist Matt Taibi literally while he is sitting testifying before Congress. They didn't have the good good sense to wait a day or a week and make it seem coincidental. They wanted you to know you rat on us, We're coming after you. That's the same vindictiveness the FBI is demonstrating here.
You look at this testimony from this former FBI agent Center and not only do you serve in the US Army as an infantryman in Iraq and Afghanistan for a year each, but according to his testimony in the report, he received the combat infantryman bad just the man that
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of agents who hold conservative beliefs. The whistleblower even disclose that many of their jobs, their career paths have been basically stunted on purpose to get them frustrated so they'll maybe just leave on their own.
Well. Unfortunately, I think this is a pattern we're seeing throughout the Biden administration, but particularly in areas of the military and law enforcement. I think they're doing everything they can to try to drive conservatives out of government. We've
talked on this podcast before. I think that was one of the major objectives of the Biden vaccine mandate for government employees is that they knew that those men and women who refused to take the vaccine were much more likely to be conservative, and their view was good riddance. Get them out of the FBI, get them out of DOJ, get them out of the military, get them out of the border patrol, get them out of the federal government.
And it is part of turning all of the enforcement mechanism of the government into a weapon, a weapon to be used to target your enemies. And so that weapon is used against the individual employees who happen to be conservative, and it's also used against American citizens because when you've driven all the conservatives out, those who remain appear far more willing to be complicit in the abuse of power.
And I got to tell you, as I am in DC, as i'm back in Texas, as I travel around, I regularly speak to employees at the Department of Justice, employees at the FBI, whether special agents, whether prosecutors, who are deeply dismayed at what they're seeing in the department. And they're dismayed, but they're afraid to speak out. They're afraid because the consequences, because they believe in their mission. Look, most people that are at DOJ or the FBI, they
sign up because they want to stop bad guys. They want to lock up child predators, they want to lock up terrorists, they want to keep America safe. And there are thousands upon thousands of honorable heroes at DOJ and the FBI, but many of them right now are scared to speak. And I got to say, one of the more chilling exchanges in the testimony today was when one of the witnesses was asked would he advise another whistleblower to come forward.
Listen to his answer, mister.
Boyle, we just heard from your interaction with mister Gates and how all of this occurred and all of the hardships you've gone through. If one of your really good friends, your former colleagues, came to you and said, I have this thing that is being covered up and I think the American people need to know about it, what advice would you give them.
I'll tell them first to pray about it long and hard, and I would tell them I could take it to Congress for them, or I could put them in touch with Congress, but I would advise them not to do it.
So you would legitimately try to protect one of your colleagues from doing what you have done.
Absolutely, and how do you think.
That solves being able to shine light on corruption, weaponization, any kind of misconduct that exists with the American people.
It doesn't solve it. But the FBI will crush you.
This government will crush you and your family if you try to expose the truth about things that they are doing that are wrong, and we are all examples of that.
I can't think of a more so wearing way to end a hearing.
Iiel back, I.
Mean, you hear that, and I do think it's shocking, But I think Democrats are proud of this moment Center. They're like, good, you should be scared, you should be terrified. This is intimidation, this is what they want.
And I got to say, one of the more disappointing aspects of yesterday's hearing was the Democrat congress men and women who were perfectly happy to attack these FBI whistleblowers. They treat this as a partisan battle, our team versus their team, and in their view, if you dare dissent from the brutal repression of descent, then you're suddenly the enemy.
And I got to say, look, I get that they're partisan battles in Washington, but I have to admit if the shoe were on the other foot, and this testimony about the weaponization of the FBI to target people because of their political views on the left, I'm quite confident I would be. Every bit is dismayed, and I wonder where is the Democrat who cares about the rule of law, even if the Democrat happens to you know, not like
the conservatives who are the target of this persecution. Is is there not a single Democrat congressman who says, well, gosh, if the DOJ and FBI can be turned to attack the political opponents of the White House, you know, that could happen to us too. Now, mind you, they're rhetoric. They claimed it happened under Trump all the time. But if you actually look to evidence, the Department of Justice didn't do that. It didn't didn't go out and persecute
the political opponents of the president. In fact, they should have done much more going after Antifa, violent criminals, but not for their political views. Look, you can be a leftist or an anarchist if you want. That's not criminal. But when you light cities on fire, and you loot stores, and you assault people and murder people, that is criminal. And if anything, I think that Trump DOJ should have been much more vigorous in going after violent criminals. But
that's not politicization, that's actually doing your job. Where is the Democrat willing to defend the rule of law? And I'll point out when Congress a generation before heard the evidence of Richard Nixon, trying to politicize the Department of Justice, trying to politicize the FBI, trying to politicize the irs. Numerous Republicans stood up and said, this is beyond the pale,
This is too much, this is not acceptable. Is there not one Democrat member of Congress with the same level of integrity that you saw Republican after Republican who called for Richard Nixon's investigation and ultimately resignation, Like, is there not one Democrat who cares about rule of law?
One of the whistle blowers also said Senator that the FBI is quote currently cancerous and has let itself become enveloped in the politicalization and weaponization. And the example was the FBI classified every single this is the testimony January sixth case as a domestic terrorism case, according to the whistleblower, despite quote hundreds of them being resolved resolved as petty
crimes like trespassing and or disorderly conduct. You were labeled as a domestic terrorist in a domestic terrorism case.
Well, and that's politics, mind you. This is the same FBI that apparently has no resources to go after the people who are firebombing crisis pregnancy centers that apparently has no resources to go after the people who are breaking federal law brazenly night after night, protesting outside the homes of Supreme Court justices and implicitly threatening their lives and their families. They can't be bothered to devote their resources
to doing that. But when it comes to criminalizing peaceful speech, that the FBI and DOJ have unlimited resources for. And to be clear, there's a fundamental difference between violence and peaceful speech. If you engage in violence, whether I agree with you or not. If you engage in violence, you should be prosecuted and go to jail. But if you're engaged in peaceful speech, whether I agree with you or not,
that is protected by the First Amendment. And this Department of Justice under Joe Biden, and this FBI under Joe Biden wants to treat them as exactly the same and criminalize the speech of those who showed up on January sixth to support President Trump, but more broadly, the tens of millions of Republicans who vote on the other side. These are the same people that want to criminalize the speech of moms and dads going to school boards and indeed,
the same FBI agents. They've got ample resources to go and interview dozens of parents for exercising their First Amendment rights. It's political intimidation, and it is deliberate, and it is from the very top. It is from Merrick Garland, the most political Attorney general this country's ever seen.
The good news is, and I hope that what happens is other whistleblowers will be inspired by these people that have come forward and do the exact same thing, because this is how we change the tide of what's happening in Washington, which brings me to another big story center. A Biden appointed US Attorney for Massachusetts, someone that what you warned America about, is now resigning after a special
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We have an update for you on Massachusetts US Attorney Rachel Rawlins a brand new report just out moments ago finds that she quote wilfully violated the Hatch Act on multiple occasions during.
Her time as US Attorney Now.
The report, published by the US Office of Special Counsel, comes one day after Rollins announced that she plans to resign from her post by the end of the week.
So let's explain what this means here.
The Hatch Act is critically important to our government and certain parts of our certain branches of our government being non partisan.
It's designed to limit certain.
Political activities of federal employees to ensure federal programs remain nonpartisan and not biased. Rollins is accused of attending a political party.
Fundraiser while in office.
The report also saying she tried to sabotage the campaign of a political candidate by leaking non public information to the media.
I mean center. The worst part is Democrats and everything they could to save her. And finally, after violating the most egregious Hatch Act violations, she's now going to resign.
Well, she has resigned, and I have to say this is an enormous victory for the role of law number one. We're talking about weaponizing the Department of Justice and abusing power. Rachel Rollins did all of that, and the report that came out is stunning. There were two reports that actually came out. One from the Office of the Special Council. That's an office that has exclusive jurisdiction investigating allegations concerning
prohibited political activities under the Hatch Act. The Hatch AC specifically prohibits most government employees from engaging in partisan politics. So that was one report, and there was a second parallel investigation from the Department of Justice Office of the Inspector General. Both released reports and the reports were damning. So what they found she did is number one, and
I'm quoting from the OIG report. Rollins assisted a candidate and a partisan political election and sought to influence an election by, among other things, disclosing non public sensitive DOJ information to the press. Rollins made false statements under oath and lacked candor about the disclosure during her OIG interview.
And this concern. She had been the Suffolk DA District attorney before she was named US attorney, and there was a race to succeed her, and she wanted one really left wing Democrat candidate, Ricardo Arroyo, That's who she wanted in the primary, and in order to help her guy, she was trying to smear the other Democrats. So she was willing to break the law, not even to smear a Republican, to smear a Democrat who wasn't sufficiently left
wing for her. And according to the OIG, she used her position as US Attorney and information available to her as US attorney in an ultimately unsuccessful effort to create the impression publicly before the primary election that DOJ was or would be investigating Hayden, the other Democrat, for public corruption.
These efforts included, but were not limited to Rollins trying unsuccessfully to convince her first assistant US Attorney to issue a letter that would have created the impression that DOJ was investigating Haye and when that effort failed, disclosing non public sensitive DOJ information directly to a Herald reporter before the primary election. Afterwards, she falsely testified under oath during her OIG interview, she made false statements, which is a
felony under eighteen USC. Section one thousand and one. And on top of that, she's the sitting US attorney, and she attended a Democrat fundraiser on July fourteenth, twenty twenty two with Jill Biden, Joe Biden's wife. Now, before she went to that fundraiser, she asked the Executive Office of US Attorney's the General Council's Office, could she go to the fundraiser, And they said, no, she can't go to
the fundraiser. They said, if you want, you can meet Jill Biden outside of the location of the event and a brief meet and greet outdoors, but you can't go into a politically partisan fundraiser because you're the sitting US attorney and that is against the rules for a federal prosecutor to engage in partisan politics. Well, even after she'd received that explicit instruction from the General Counsel's office, contrary to the advice she gave it, I'll just read what
the OIG concluded quote. Our investigation revealed that, contrary to the advice she received, Rollins attended the fundraising event. Based on Rollins's only only account of what she did. After she arrived at the fundraising location, Rollins went inside the home, mingled with the guest, and stood in the same receiving line as the other fundraising gets guests to meet doctor Biden.
Rollinson's interactions with doctor Biden was identical to that of the other fundraising guests whose primary purpose for being at the event was to get in line and meet doctor Biden. That is stunning. It is a pattern of illegality. It is a pattern of a sitting US attorney committing multiple felonies so bad, and abusing her power as a federal prosecutor to try to influence an election, in particular, to try to smear a Democrat, not even a Republican, a
Democrat who wasn't sufficiently left wing and radical. This report came out and Rachel Rollins is resigned. That's a big deal. It is a big deal.
And you warned the American people about Rachel Rawlings and this was back gosh what over a year ago when you warned America. I want people to hear what your warning was. And before I play that for everybody, I want to tell you about our friends of our Patriot Mobile. If you are sick and tired of woke agenda from companies, and you're sick and tired of giving them your money, there is an option now for you with your cell phone.
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Listen.
Rachel Rollins has been vocal and aggressive against prosecuting crime. She has been very clear that she came into the job of district Attorney as a crusader. She has said, and these are her words, if you want to change the criminal legal system, become a prosecutor, because they have the power to determine charges, what crimes to decline to prosecute. About a prosecutor, it's not taking bad guys off a street, it's not seeking justice for the victims of crime.
No, it is the.
Power to say I won't prosecute these crimes. And with mss Rollins, it's not hypothetical because she is a district attorney and as the Boston DA, she went so far as to write down am in quote the Rachel Rollins policy Memo, a list of fifteen crimes whose prosecution quote should always be declined or quote dismissed without conditions. Charges on this list of fifteen crimes should be declined or dismissed pre arraignment without conditions. The presumption is the charges
that fall into this category should always be declined. So you've got a DA saying these are the crimes we don't prosecute always be declined dismissed without conditions. So you may say, Okay, maybe this is like some sort of criminal justice reform. Maybe this is low level nonviolent marijuana possessions. Teenager got caught with a joints. We're not going to prosecute those. Look reasonable people can actually disagree on that. We can have an intelligent conversation back and forth about that.
But the beauty of it is we don't have to speculate because.
You put it in writing.
These are the fifteen crimes. They're upside down, as are her policies. These are the fifteen crimes where charges should be dismissed pre arraignment without condition. Number one trespass. So I want you to think about it. If you don't want to see people trespassing on your property, well, under Rachel Rollins, the Democrats US attorney, we don't prosecute trespass.
What else?
Shoplifting? Does anyone watch the videos of the people breaking into stores and stealing and stealing and stealing and looting. You know what, Joe Biden and Senate Democrats, they're bringing that to a neighborhood near you. Shoplifting, we don't prosecute. That's what she says, shoplifting, Ali Ali oxen free. You see a TV you like, pick that damn thing up and run out of the store because your friend, the fake prosecutor, is not going to charge you larsening, really larceny, larceny.
We don't prosecute disorderly conduct. You're a single mom coming home at night. A drunk vagrant is yelling, screaming, cursing at your kids. You know what? Not a crime here? We don't prosecute that. What else? Receiving stolen property? Okay, this is at least intellectually consistent. You're going to legalize shoplifting, rob the hell out of the stores. At least the fence can be on the back end, so you can
steal that TV goes straight to the fence. By the way, I guess you could do it in the parking lot. Set up a van right there. We fence stolen property. You run in and grab it, ill fence it right here. DA all good by us. Driving with a suspended license, well sometimes that might be okay. What was it suspended for? Was it suspended for DWI? Was it suspended because you're a drunk who's killed people? Was it suspended because you're
this homicidal maniac in Milwaukee who murdered six people. You know what this DA says, Hey, driving was suspended license, no problem at all, No longer a crime. Raking and entering into a vacant property without property damage. So any property that's vacant, you can break in and you're fine. Locks don't matter. Burglar alarms don't matter. By the way, burglar alarm goes off, what the hell do you do? You show up? Hey, you don't prosecute it. I'm staying
right here. You may say, well, at least there's something reasonable. It's without property damage. Right well now, except the problem is number eight on the list, breaking an entering into a vacant property with property damage. So it doesn't matter. Break into the place, loot it, trash it, destroy it. All is good in Joe Biden's criminal friendly America. Number nine, wanting or malicious destruction of property. By the way, don't
believe the Democratic talking points. This stuff isn't violent. Really, wanting or malicious destruction of property. I'm in Joe Biden's America threats, threats of violence. I want you to imagine right now, you've got an angry vagrant making threats of violence against your children. You call the DA saying, my family's being threatened. Protect our safety. And what does she say? Not a crime? Oh, well, stinks to be you. Threats are just a okay. Minor in possession of alcohol. Hey, great, kids,
drink up. Actually, the beauty of it is in Joe Biden's America, the kids can get drunk, they can drive, they can have their license suspended, and apparently they'll get a gold star at the end of it. Minor possession of alcohol, we've got senate pages here. Just go down to the US Attorney's office. They're serving Margarita's marijuana possession. Okay, I said. We can debate marijuana possession. Reasonable people can
disagree on that. Now doesn't specify the quantity. Teenager with a joint, You could say that that may be a good candidate for diversion to something else. Drug dealer with several kilos of pot in the back, Maybe you ought to be prosecuting that. Oh and by the way, how do we know she doesn't just limit it to the kids with a joint? Well, what's number thirteen on the list? Possession with intent to distribute? So drug dealers in Joe
Biden's America, drug dealers, it is legal. You can sell booze to kids, you can sell drugs to kids, you can sell stolen televisions to kids. Prosecute drug dealers, but look, at least it's just pot. And come on, we know you know in states a lot of states, pot's not that bad, right, It's just pot? Uh oh? Number fourteen
non marijuana drug possession. So for any Democrats ready to go home saying, hey, we just like pot because we're Democrats, Nope, heroin, cocaine, LSD, fentanyl, drug dealers who are poisoning our kids in Joe Biden's America, we don't prosecute you. And number fifteen is really the crowning jewel of this resisting arrest. So I want you to envision what this says. You can break and enter
into vacant property and do damage. You can have a homeless person trespass on your front lawn, set up a tent, threaten your children, sell them drugs, and if a police officer shows up and tries to arrest them, they can violently resist arrest. And what does the DA say?
All good by me, Senator.
That policy memo is shocking, but it is the Democratic Party.
Well, Rachel Rollins was the single most extreme US attorney in the country. She was a George Soros prosecutor. She effectively abolished the police for those fifteen crimes. Joe Biden nominated her. He's nominated a total of three of the leading advocates of abolishing the police to senior positions in
the Department of Justice, including Rachel Rollins. That speech you just played I gave on the Senate floor, I don't know how you read that memo, how you look at those facts, and how you vote to confirm this person as the chief you be prosecutor in the state of Massachusetts, other than if you're a Democrat, you believe you'll never be held to account because no reporter will ever ask
you about it. Well, you know what, every single Democrat, all of them, one hundred percent, voted to confirm Rachel Rollins. Joe Manchin, the supposed moderate, voted to confirm Rachel Rollins because they know the press will never ever ever hold them to account. And then after they voted for this radical, she went and lawlessly abused the office, committed crimes in the office, and now she's resigned so it's a victory for the rule of law, and it's reason to celebrate.
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