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It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you, Senator, We've got a lot to chat about, obviously, with what's going on at the border and specifically something that you have been calling for, and that is the impeachment of my Orcus that now looks like it could become a big reality on the House side.
We're going to deal with that.
But before we deal with that, I do want to get your initial reaction because this has been such a big story with the list and the names and the Epstein documents. A lot of it has come out. We're still waiting for more things to come out. The media has played this as oh, nothing to see here, Yes, Bill Clinton's name was in there, Yes, Donald Trump's name was in there, and acting like it's just a bunch of names. Give me your initial reaction to what you so far have seen and what you've heard and.
What you think.
Well, I'm glad it's finally coming out. It's taken too damn long. All of this needs to be public. At this point, we've had roughly forty documents released by the Federal District Court. There are around two hundred and fifty documents in total the district Court has that the court is indicated they're going to release, so there'll be more
information that comes out. But look, what is of real public interest is is who participated with Jeffrey Epstein in sex crimes and an abusing young girls, underage girls, and if they participated, if they're guilty of those crimes, they should be prosecuted. We should have the client list, We should have the list of the people who went to his island where he committed these crimes, and committed these crimes according to the testimony over an extended period of time.
And the media has expressed an amazing lack of curiosity on this, and I think the reason is that Jeffrey Epstein piled around with Democrats. One of the interesting things in the document, so you know, the media desperately wants to blame Epstein on Trump, but there's one passing reference to Trump in the documents that essentially, when Epstein's playing lands in Atlantic City, says, oh, we should call Trump. And so that's the lone reference you want to talk about.
The most damning thing. The most damning thing is the quote from a twenty sixteen deposition about Bill Clinton where the quote was quote he said one time that Clinton likes them young, referring to girls. Now, I gotta say, Ben, can you imagine if the document said the exact same thing, but if it just replaced the word Clinton with Trump. If there were a document here that said Trump likes some young the media would go nuts. The New York Times would have a banner headline in forty two point
fought Trump likes him young. But of course it didn't say that. It said Bill Clinton likes young girls. And suddenly it's crickets the media. What no, nothing to see here, nothing at all.
It was interesting that you mentioned that because I was talking with my producer in our producer this show, Diaz. This morning we went to see an in dot com live on My morning show, and some of the headlines that they had above the article that even dealt with Epstein included TJ Fridays, the restaurant abruptly closes thirty six.
Restaurant see the whole list.
Another one, two straight Dogs caused more than three hundred and fifty in damage at a car dealership. World's most punctual airport is in the US. Kelly Clarkson says, walking in her new home of New York City helped her lose weight.
These were the stories.
That they had above and countless others before you actually got to the Epstein story that also mentioned Bill Clinton likes them young, referring.
To young girls. That is your media for you in America right now.
And also the document show that Bill Clinton flew repeatedly on the plane. We don't know how many times. And we also know, and this is something we've discussed at length on Verdict before, we know that Dick Durbin and Senate Democrats are going to extraordinary lengths to prevent a subpoena from issuing to get the flight logs of Epstein's planes. So the Senate Democrats don't want the public to know
who was on that airplane. And that when you put it in that context, suddenly the media's utter lack of interest in this makes a whole lot more sense, because the media wants to protect the Democrats, and the Democrats desperately don't want people to know. Look, as we've talked about, Jeffrey Epstein had a painting of Bill Clinton in a blue dress with red pumps hanging in his house in
New York. It's bizarre, but but that's that's what he put on the wall, and the media doesn't want you to know it well.
And there was also another story that came out that said that there apparently were emails that were going around that we're talking about, apparently Bill Clinton going into Vanity Fair and threatening them not to write the sex trafficking
articles about his good friend Jeffrey Epstein. According to an email from Virginia Giffra and Centner, if you had that same shocking emails come out tonight and it was Donald Trump walked into Vandy Fair and threatened them not to write a sex trafficking article about his good friend, quote unquote Jeffrey Epstein, and you had this in emails, this
would also be wall to wall coverage. Yet tonight, as you and I are taping this, still crickets on that story of the influence that Bill Quinton had over that story at Vandy Fair.
Yeah.
Look, it's a complete obvious double standard and the corporate media is thorough corrupt. They are part of the Democrat Party, they share the same left wing agenda, and they behave in unison to protect each other.
Last question on this I want to ask you, and that is I still am angered by the aspect that there's really been virtually no justice here. There has been, Yes, Maxwell who's in prison. Yes, Jeffrey Epstein was in prison. But if you go back to his first conviction, that was a slap on the wrist down in Florida, I
think it was back in sixteen. One of the things you notice here is the federal government has not gone after any of those that were involved in this, this horrific abuse of young girls, underage girls, but they did seem to go out of their way to actually protect the mighty, the powerful in this country from prosecution or even investigations.
How concerning is that to you?
Look, I think it's deeply concerning in it anyone involved in the trafficking or sexual abuse of underage girls should be prosecuted. And and you're right, there's a complete lack of interest on the part of the Department of Justice to go after the clients, to go after the other people that were.
Involved in this.
There's a complete lack of interest in the media on reporting on it. They are protecting the powerful. And I'll
tell you another component of this. I don't know if you saw the story that broke last week that there was reporting that the arrests that were made of two brothels that were in Boston and outside of Washington, d C. In Virginia, that it appears there's evidence that they were in fact honeypot schemes potentially funded by a foreign government that included prominent politicians who were clients of these houses of prostitution and then that was used to blackmail them.
And this is a story that suggests that this was being funded by a foreign government, and it's not clear who, whether China or Iran, or.
Who it was.
But it also raises the question with Jeffrey Epstein about with powerful people and politicians, people like Bill Clinton, what influence did Jeffrey Epstein have over them? And was any of this material used for blackmail? And given the story that just broke, I think it puts an additional urgency on answering that question.
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There have been many talking heads. As I was flying back from York today, this time it came up on Fox about you know, it's about time that they move to in p my Orcis. But there's a lot of people that don't think understand the reasons behind it. There are some that are talking about it more of a like political vengeance, like, well, he deserves to be impeached
because he doesn't do his job. And I think what we need to do is go back and lay out for the listeners of Verdict the actual reasons why My Orcis you believe should be impeached and it's based on actual things within his job, not political vengeance. Because there have been some that have just been acting like this should be political vengeance. That's not how what this should be about. You should never impeach people for political vengeance. It should be because of dereliction of their duty and
their job. So let's go through why you believe personally that my Orcists should be impeached for not doing his job.
Well, let's be clear what the constitutional standard for impeachment is. The Constitution lays out that impeachment lies for bribery, treason, or other high crimes and misdemeanors. So you know, in your question you said that Mayorcis should be impeached for dereliction of duty. Actually, dereliction of duty alone is not
enough for impeachment. And there was a debate among the Framers when they were writing the Constitution, and in fact, one of the earlier drafts of the Constitution, it was suggested that impeachment lie for maladministration, and the Framers decided against that. They didn't want a process simply to remove someone for maladministration. They wanted it to be a higher standard of high crimes and misdemeanors. But in this instance, what mayorcus has done is far greater than negligence, far
greater than malad administration. It's not just that Alexandro Majorcis is bad at his job. It's not just that he's ineffective. It's that he's openly, brazenly, deliberately defying the law, ignoring the law, flouting the law. He is facilitating, He is aiding and abetting an invasion of this country. What is happening at our southern border is such a disaster that you know you asked why why should may Orcist be impeached? The simple reason is the strategy of Joe Biden and
the Democrats on the border is very simple. They want to ignore it, and they know that the corporate media will be complicit in ignoring it. This is one of the many instances where the corruption and politicization of the media, the destruction of journalism, it ends up producing the extremism. With elected Democrats, their strategy is simply ignore it and
cover it up. And so the most important value of impeachment of Mayorcis is to put the facts of the utter disaster that is happening at the border before the American people. So let me give you some of the facts. In all of fiscal year twenty twenty three, the Biden administration deported one hundred and forty two thousand, five hundred and eighty people. One hundred and forty two thousand, more than twice that number came across our border just last
month in December. So that's one hundred and forty two thousand out of roughly three million. You look at the month of December that we just finished, three hundred and two thousand illegal alien encounters, the highest single month ever recorded, first time it's ever been over three hundred thousand. There have now been since October firs more than seven hundred and eighty five thousand migrant encounters at the southern border. Seven hundred and eighty five thousand since October first. That
is the highest first quarter of the year. The way the fiscal of the federal government fiscal year measures the first quarter is from October one to December thirty first, that's the highest first quarter ever recorded. Seven hundred and eighty five thousand people is larger than the city of Seattle, and that's what crossed the southern border in the last three months. And despite all of that, what does the
White House say? Kareem John Pierre describes the situation on the border as quote not unusual, its record shattering, horrific, and it is producing a line of body bags of dead illegal immigrants abandoned on Texas farms and ranches. It is producing thousands upon thousands of children, horribly abused, brutalized women, thousands upon thousands sexually assaulted drug overdoses. The value of this impeachment is to overcome the media blockade and to put the facts before the American people.
You know, what's even more shocking is their excuses for why this is happening. And one of them, I just have to play it for you because I have to get your reaction. You talk about my orcist and moving forward this impeachment. It's long overdue. But listen to what my Orcus said about what's happening at the border, and more importantly, why it's happening at the border.
Take a listen on from MSNBC.
As you know, mister Secretary Border Patrol, in the month of December process more migrants entering the United States illegally than any month in the history of that agency.
Why is that happening? How do you explain it?
So we are seeing the greatest number of displaced people, not only at our southern border, not only in the Western hemisphere, but across the globe. You know, I am involved in bilateral and multilateral meetings with my counterparts from foreign countries in Europe, in Asia and the Indo Pacific, all over the world, and migration, the challenge of displaced people is a subject that comes up in every single conversation.
We have the effects of climate change, poverty, increasing level of authoritarianism, the very many challenges that are at the root cause of the displacement of people around the world.
Climate change. So now that's why garbage.
I mean, I heard it and I almost laughed, like he didn't just say that?
Did he really just say that? And he did?
Look Ben, that just pisces me off, because that man is utterly full of shot. He is just lying. He's brazenly lying climate change. You know what, Joe Biden and Alejandro mayorcus inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. It changed literally the month Joe Biden became president. Now, even under their idiotic ideology, did climate change suddenly occur once Biden was president, and I guess there was no climate change when Trump was president. What
he's saying it is such a brazen lie. It demonstrates why he should be impeached. He's not trying to do his job. He's defying the law. So i'll give it. Give it an example. Fiscal year twenty twenty three, one hundred and thirty seven, two hundred and seventy five unaccompanied miners, little boys, little girls arrived at the Southern borderered and thirty seven, two hundred and seventy five. How many do you think ice removed in that year?
Honestly, no clue because the numbers are so insane.
Out of one hundred and thirty seven, two hundred and seventy five, ice removed two hundred and twelve. Wow, so one hundred and thirty seven thousand plus remained. And by the way, and look, you and I talked about this on the podcast when I was last down at the border a couple of months ago, where we encountered a
group with a lot of young children. A very significant percentage of those children are physically assaulted, they are sexually assaulted, and they are being trafficked and put into sex, slavery, and so I get angry when I hear May Yorkis say that because he's saying he does not care about those children being raped. And the reason he's saying that is because if he cared, he would do something to stop it. And he not only won't do something to
stop it. Everything he he's doing is trying to increase the illegal immigration. His focus is on processing illegal immigrants faster and getting them on planes and on buses to every city in America. And so he is deliberately causing, causing this problem and making it worse day after day after day.
You know, Speaker Johnson took a delegation of congressmen down to the border and with an eagle pass a place the president won't go, a place that you know, the White House, President tery won't go to the place the Vice President Kamala Harris won't go. Democrats won't go to
where the actual crisis is. And I was on Outnumbered and they were showing the video of illegal immigrants from different countries yelling out and their native languages help to the congressmen saying, we're trying to get through the wire.
I want you to hear this. It was amazing.
The JP delegation went down to speak to border patrol about the unfolding crisis, only for it to unfold around them. Look, you can't make this up. You can see migrants entering our country illegally. This is just feet from where speaker Johnson was as he spoke with reporters, and as he spoke with them, there were illegal immigrants yelling aouda, which means help in Spanish. And take a look there at the barbed wire, bauda. So that's razor wire stopping the
migrants from entering our country. But it doesn't keep Kreine Jean Pierre from saying this at the White House podium yesterday.
Government abbotts. Razor wire does not prevent. It does not prevent non citizens from unlawfully crossing. That's not what it does. If anything, it puts at risk. It puts the lives of the border patrol at risk.
Except we just saw that it did prevent. She also previously said walls don't work, and she had a rather interesting reason why.
Instead of providing the needed resources for more border security technology and as silent officers and judges, it would waste taxpayer dollars on an ineffective wall again, an ineffective wall that can't even withstand heavy winds.
So that's right.
I mean, you hear the White House is Talking Points Center, and then you go down there and you see this, and the media did criticize Johnson, and the White House criticized Johnsday say they should be in Washington doing their job and passing a budget and spending They shouldn't be doing a photo op and a publicity stunt the border.
It's not a publicity stunt.
If you don't go to the border and you don't see it with your own eyes, you don't understand how bad it is. When you have a delegation of congressmen and women and the Speaker of the House and a bunch media, and these people are yelling, help help venezuela, venezuela, help help you understand that the border is in fact wide open, and no one that's coming across the southern border thinks they shouldn't be doing it or shouldn't be trying to turn themselves into Americans.
Look what Karine Jean Pierre says, she doesn't give a damn about border patrol agents, and in fact, she and Joe Biden regularly demonize border patrol agents. I spend a lot of time with border patrol agents. I go down there, I go out on midnight patrol with them. I joined them for their midnight muster. These men and women, they are heroes. They are undermined daily by their political leadership
who makes their job impossible to do. And she claims, oh, you know, putting putting barbier or razor wire, it endangers border patrol agents lives. You won't find a border patrol agent telling you that that that is a pure political lie. And and you know, Joe Biden was asked this week about the border, and he again with it's gotten to the point that where the dictionary defines chutzpa. They ought to have a picture of Joe Biden and Kareine, John
Pierre and Mayorcis because he said it's Republican's fault. The crisis of the border is Republican's fault because they won't fund his request for funding at the border. Now, number one, understand the money Joe Biden is asking for is not to secure the border. It is to process illegal immigrations faster and to bring in more illegal immigrants. He wants
money to make the problem worse. And if you want to understand that, you know, I encourage you to go back and listen you and I did, I think a little over a year ago an interview that we did at the southern border where we interviewed a very good friend of mine, Brandon Judd, who is the head of the National Border Patrol Union, and he sat down with us and he talked about the cause of the problems.
And one of the very interesting things that Brandon Judd said is he said, to secure this border, we don't need an additional penny. We don't need more money. What we need is a change in policy. And here's what matters if you want to secure the border. The single most important question is the following. What happens when someone is apprehended, And it's essentially a binary choice. If the answer is you put them on a plane and you fly them back to the country they came from, the
numbers plummet, and they plummet immediately. We have seen there's an instantaneous cause and effect. On the other hand, if the answer is that when you apprehend them, you let them go and they get to stay in America, the numbers skyrocket When I was last down there. We had the group of illegal immigrants that came and turned themselves into US wile we were on midnight patrol. It was mostly women and children. We asked them, how many of y'all believe that you'll get to stay in America? Every one
of them, yes, yes, absolutely, we get to stay. And they laid out all the cities that they wanted to go to. They all knew where they wanted to go, and as long as they believe they will stay, the numbers keep rising. And you have to understand part of the reason it's instantaneous. Virtually every illegal immigrant who comes shows up carrying a plastic baggie. They typically have in the plastic baggie they have some form of identification, a
birth certificate, a passport. They have usually a cell phone, and they have a name and number of somebody in the US. Unfortunately, often it is traffickers who are bringing them in that they're calling. When when we were talking to the kids, all of the young girls said they were calling their tos teo is Spanish for uncle, and yet that they wouldn't tell us anything when we asked
any questions about who these to those were. But the cell phone is what makes it instantaneous, because when people get here and get released, they immediately text or call their friends and their families back home and they say, hey, if you come, you get to stay. If on not, the other hand, if they've gone through a horrendous journey and they've been horribly abused, and they get here and they get deported, they get put on a plane and sent back right where they started again, they text their
friends and families and they say, don't come. They won't let you in. And so the reason those illegal immigrants are calling Ayuda, calling for help is because they believe, and they believe quite rightly that under Joe Biden, the Biden administration views its job as helping illegal immigrants come into this country and invade this country. We're now upwards of ten million illegal immigrants under Joe Biden. It is unprecedented.
Yeah, it is.
And the other part I think that's also so disingenuous from this White House is the fact that they try to act. As you mentioned, it's about the money, but the executive actions that the president could take instantly could change so many of the policies that are allowing for this crisis, which was created by designed by the Biden administration, and that wouldn't even take Congress. It's one of the things that Donald Trump did so brilliantly when he was
in office. You could just go back to his same policies and you could do it literally with the swipe of a pen.
Three decisions that Joe Biden could implement tomorrow number one, resume building the wall, number two, and catch and release number three, reinstate to remain in Mexico agreement. All of those he did the opposite his first week at office. That's what caused this border crisis. Joe Biden could solve it at an instant. He does not want to, and he's going to do I believe everything he can to prevent it. It's why impeaching mayorca should have been impeached
over two years ago. I had been calling for it for virtually the entirety of his tenure, because it has been we have never seen a Cabinet member so utterly defy federal law the way may Orchis has done.
I want to move to something else that is obviously important and significant. We've talked about it, and it's a big win on the border to secure the enactment of a streamline permitting process for new and expanded bridges across the Rio Grande in Brownsville, Laredo, and Eagle Pass, Texas. It is something that you were a part of and led on. It's now actually become law. You were down on Laredo, and I want to play for people part of what you had to say at this very very big moment.
We're here today to celebrate bipartisan legislation that was signed into law in December of last year that will expedite building new bridges and expanding bridges between Texas and Mexico. We're here at the World Trade Bridge, the largest land port in the United States. Every year, Texas and Mexico have roughly eight hundred billion in trade and commerce that comes across this border. That's jobs in Texas, that's jobs in Mexico.
That's the lifeblood of South Texas.
This is obviously significant, not just from the standpoint of security that you talked about and orderly commerce coming across the border in a safer manner, but it's also a really big deal from the fact that, as you mentioned, it was bipartisan talk about how significant this is going to be for this country and for Texas well.
The audio you just played was from a press conference that I did in Laredo yesterday morning, and it was right at the World Trade Bridge, right on the southern border. And I did that alongside Henry Quayar, the Democrat congressman who represents Laredo, and Henry and I worked ten in
hand in this and it was a huge victory. The Texas Business Association that was down there with us and there was a large group of people celebrating this legislative victory that we had just two weeks ago described the legislation that I introduced and passed as the biggest positive step for jobs and commerce in Texas since the US Mexico Canada agreement was negotiated. It is literally billions of dollars of additional trade in commerce and tens of thousands
of jobs and real quickly what happened. So, there are four bridge projects that have been proposed in South Texas, two in Laredo, one in Brownsville. Want an will pass, and the Biden administration had put bureaucratic barriers. They were delaying every one of these bridge projects. The World Trade Bridge that I was at yesterday morning that bridge right now is eight lanes. They have proposed to expand it to eighteen lanes to more than double the size of it,
which enables commerce to move much more rapidly. That benefits farmers, That benefits ranchers, That benefits manufacturers, That benefits small businesses. That benefits consumers by lowering prices at the grocery store. It also benefits national security by making it easier to bring manufacturing back from China, either back to the United States or near shoring it bringing it back to Mexico, where we could have trade and commerce with Mexico rather
than China. So all of those are good outcomes. And what happened. So in order to build a bridge, ordinarily, you have to do what is called Federal Environmental NEPA review, go through a process of reviewing the environmental impact of a bridge. That's true for any bridge. If you're building a bridge across an international border, there's an additional legal requirement.
You need a permit from the President of the United States. Now, the way this used to be done is the President would grant that permit contingent on the completion of the NEPA review. And what that did is accelerated the process, enabled it to move through quickly. When Joe Biden became president, he announced they were reversing that policy and Biden was going to grant zero presidential permits for cross border bridges unless and until the NIPA environmental review was fully completed.
The effect of that was to add two, three, four five years to these bridge projects, to delay them all. It also made it hard for them to get funding because the banks were reluctant to commit capital until the presidential permit had been granted. So there was a chicken and egg problem, and the Biden administration dug in. And so what I did is is Number One, unified the
congressional delegation in South Texas. And so I brought together a coalition of myself and John Cornon, the other Texas Senator, along with Henry Quayar, a Democrat, Monica Delacruz, a Republican, Vicente Gonzalez, a Democrat, and Tony Gonzales, a Republican, all of the South Texas Congressional delegation. We jointly pressed the Biden State Department reversed this idiotic policy. This is hurting
Texas and hurting America. The Biden administration dug in. They refused to change, and so I authored legislation mandating that they expedite the process, got bipartisan support in the Senate, passed it out of the set, and then passed it out of the House, and Joe Biden signed it into
law on December twenty second. It was actually my birthday that he signed the law, and so it was a pretty great birthday gift because it's a huge victory for jobs in the state of Texas, and it's an example of you know, I got to say, it's also an
example of the bizarre hypocrisy. I mean, let me ask you seriously, Ben, explain to me the mind of a whack job liberal that you want totally open borders and ten million people invading this country illegally, including human traffickers and drug traffickers on the one hand, but on the other hand, you want to put bureaucratic roadblocks in the way of legal trade and commerce from farmers and businesses while you're allowing illegal immigrants to flow with no restraint.
Yeah, it makes some sense, especially when every year Texas and Mexico, as you mentioned, roughly eight hundred billion in trade and commerce that come across this border, and this does it in a more early fashion, but also with the issue of national security involved in it. Keeping it orly with safety and security, especially with all the drug trafficking, FETNO and everything else coming across the border, it makes no sense.
Look, that's exactly right, and we ended up building the bipartisan coalition to pass this into law. And so the way the law works is December twenty second is when Joe Biden signed it into law. On that date, which was the date he signed it, the legislation starts a shot clock of sixty days, and the State Department has a sixty day time limit to submit its recommendations to the White House as to whether he should grant the
permit for these four bridges. After that sixty day period, a second shot clock starts, and the President has sixty days to make it a termination on the permit. If the President does nothing after that second sixty days, the permit is deemed automatically granted by operation of law. What that means is because it was signed on December twenty second, that by April twentieth we will have these presidential permits
which will expedite these bridges going forward. That is an enormous victory despite the Biden administration putting roadblocks in the way every step of the way.
Well congratulations, and like you said, it's awesome that it was done in such a bipartisan manner and it's great for commerce, great for the country, great for Texans. This is a huge win, especially when you're having to deal with an administration like the Biden administration. So congratulations on that job.
Well done.
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